Reacting to Lily Orchard's Gay Rep Video

[@FlamingoSugar]

I think what really grates me about Lily is that she feels like what she likes/remembers HAS to be important. It's not enough that she enjoys something or fondly remembers something else - if the internet at large isn't appreciating it enough for her liking, it's a problem. Or rather, it's a problem that they enjoy something else instead of the thing SHE likes. Like yes, I'm sure there were earlier LGBTQ+ characters in cartoons, but one, they existed before the internet was as big as it currently is, so by virtue of that they will be discussed less, and two, these series were simply not as popular as Steven Universe, She-Ra, Owl House, etc. . It's not a matter of people "erasing" these characters, it's a matter of they were a random character in a not-that-popular series. That's it. It's nothing insidious.

[@avivastudios2311]

She's such a narcissist. I couldn't imagine thinking like that. Now of course I want to share my favorite songs and other things but I won't pretend they're all high art.

[@ijustlikebees]

It's very much how like a child thinks, like she never learned there's a world beyond her and it doesn't revolve around her

[@ninja2be]

I feel like if she was more reasonable and thoughtful as a person, she could be right about the stuff she fondly remembers. Every step on a journey is important. It's her framing that makes it so frustrating, if it's not something she likes it's not worth it.

[@magical571]

@@ninja2be right, she has this extremely all or nothing point of view from an authority pov that she gave to herself. It really deletes any chance of anything sensible she may remember to be put into a cohesive, non hateful and not grandious way.

[@Grf1556]

@@avivastudios2311 As someone with a Masters in Psychology I am like 90% sure that Lily has moderate to severe Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

[@MangoMagica]

Trans man weighing in. I'm a little insulted that Lily assumed Dion would have a dead name. That's something that you would cringe at the thought of being called and make you feel uncomfortable, not just going "oh it's so boring". Dion is clearly just a stagename and she's reading way too deeply into it. EDIT: Yes I definitely recommend Tuca and Bertie! With Bojack Horseman it's like comparing apples and oranges but it's still a very good show

[@somethingcreative32]

Dion sounds really awesome

[@ilivory974]

Tuca and Bertie is such a good show oh my gosh

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

For as much as people dunk on you for continually covering Lorch, you’re probably the best person to step in and call out her nonsense through your own nonsense (meant as a compliment). You’re able to laugh at yourself and be funny where she isn’t. You’re able to better articulate your arguments even when you go off on tangents about other arguments while Lorch can’t even keep one argument straight. And you’re a genuinely wholesome person where she is decidedly not. I came for your “Lorch doesn’t understand SU” video, and I stay for your opinions on various things. Thanks, Sai. You helped me to remember what made SU great and you’re pretty wise and wise-cracking

[@Shuffles_Art]

Sai is honestly way better at staying on topic through a non-scripted format than Lily Orchard does in her own pre-recorded scripted out content. Lily literally writes tangents into her own scripts 🪦

[@horridk3070]

Wait, so Lily hated Double Trouble for being a non-binary alien, but likes Zoit for being a non-binary alien???

[@LaNoLaCola]

It's because SPOP was popular, and the show Zolt was from wasn't. Also, Double Trouble was voiced by a non binary actor

[@Kingbeat1]

@@horridk3070 oh my goodness you are right

[@nmellis6795]

It's because it originally wasn't Lily's idea to include Zoit. She stole the idea from a critic on Tumblr that brought them up in response to Lily complaining on her blog.

[@ellakarlqvist7587]

I don't know why she is so obsessed with that. I relate a lot to alien/monster NB characters, as I've feel alienated due to my gender identitynas well as my autism. Also shape-shifters being bad i don't get either. It's definitely a dream for a lot of enbies.

[@jesterfairy3845]

@@ellakarlqvist7587 according to Lily, relating queerness to monstrosity is sacrilege and if you do it as an LGBT person, then you're a self-hating white nationalist TERF

[@thrillhouse3224]

I don't know what's a worse feeling: Lily hating something I love, or Lily liking something I also like. Either way she's not gonna get it.

[@GravityFaiz]

Same because I felt nothing but hate when Lorch made her Pokémon “retrospective”, which was just an unfunny 6 hour long lp of Lorch wanting to goon over Gardevoir and somehow sucking balls at baby’s first RPG.

[@zcgamerandreacts2762]

​@@GravityFaizfunny she calls others degenerates while madhouse is literally right there.

[@Lemoncakelover678]

Her new video about the nomnomnami games makes me kinda sad tbh because I love her games and their so underated so lily making that vid is just eugh....

[@Shuffles_Art]

Lily hating on Dungeon Meshi which easily became my favourite anime of all time just twisted the pre-existing knife in my heart. What made it worse is that she misunderstands everything in the show meanwhile I am hyper focused on every little detail about the show, I’ve watched more of the show than she does and yet she acts as though she has a better understanding about it than everyone else does.

[@haveagoodday7021]

Whenever she brings up Kingdom Hearts I die inside. Like why must she like something I like so much

[@princesspompom0054]

I kinda wanna troll ask Lily to check out Nyan Neko Sugar Girls, I wonder what she'd say about the gay rep in that cursed series

[@LaNoLaCola]

@@princesspompom0054 maybe she'll think its actually from Japan

[@asackboyplush6508]

I mean the dude having a boyfriend kills someone so I don't know

[@MilannesaNapolitana]

She'd make a 1:30 hour rant about the whole kidnapper-san situation

[@princesspompom0054]

@@MilannesaNapolitana Probably lmao

[@Direwolf181]

Craig of the Creek is made by Rebecca's HUSBAND Lily!!! You know Ian Jones-Quartey!?!? (Who was the one who *designed* Sugalite btw Lily) and Braceface was shown in the US i saw it growing up (granted Lily and i are the same age unfortunately) I mean Damien from Mean Girls was a gay best friend character but he also is one or tbe funniest Characters

[@LaNoLaCola]

Actually, SU writers Matt Burnett and Ben Levin created Craig of the Creek. Ian did make OK K.O. Let's be Heroes

[@Direwolf181]

@@LaNoLaCola oh got it mixed up then I'm stupid I guess XD

[@magical571]

braceface was shown in south america too (dientes de lata). i had totally forgotten about it's existance until mentioned now lol, i watched it as a kid.

[@matt0044]

Lily probably ignores it to fuel her Anti-Rebecca Sugar narrative.

[@kaylemathewcomendador6964]

I’m not aware of Ian having any involvement making Craig of the Creek. That show was created by Matt Burnett & Ben Levin, who I’m pretty sure also used to work on Steven Universe.

[@baphometbby]

I read this as "Gay Rap Video" at first and I.... just birthed a horrible thought into existence

[@princekyle4132]

Not horrible. Sounds glorious.

[@SpiltMySquash]

HOMOSEXUAL BARS 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@ashleymariewt]

I don't blame Lily for not know, this was only in America. But from the 30's to the 60's we had something called the hays code. A do and don't list of what you can include in your films. Some of it was pretty obvious, like you couldn't have kids in a sexual context. But it also included things like you couldn't have interracial couples, you couldn't defile the church, and you couldn't have explicitly gay characters. That's part of why so many villains, especially goldenage villains are queer coded because after the hays code came into effect that was the only representation we could get. Well that or bury or gays.

[@MissJasmine305]

While I agree that as a Canadian Lily probably doesn't know anything about the Hays Code, we could (and I personally do) still blame her for not doing basic research, which should be a part of her job as a youtube critic/analyst in order to prevent the spread of misinformation 🤷🏾‍♀

[@ashleymariewt]

@MissJasmine305 Oh yeah, she absolutely should have and it's not that hard to find information about the hays code as well as the actual document. The I don't blame Lily was my attempt at sarcasm. Anyone who talks about movies for a living imo should have at least vague knowledge of what the hays code was

[@magical571]

thanks for the insight :) i'm not from the u.s so i didn't know this

[@a_d7366]

I'm from goddamn australia and I know what the hays code is, I learnt about it in HIGHSCHOOL. I live on the other side of the world and I know about it, Lorch lives Next door. Her being from canada is not an excuse. You'd think that if she actually cared about gay representation in media she'd learn about the history, about queer coding, and just what's even involved and the bare fucking basics process of how media is made???? the hays code is an important part of media history, period. Not even factoring queer media history. Its baffles me that her whole job is about media critisms and analysis and she doesn't even know the basics? Knowing the context of when, where and how a piece of media was made is an important factor when thinking critically about a piece of media.

[@TreeDwellingShrimp]

​@@a_d7366Also, she's on tumblr. That topic comes up pretty often in posts discussing queer rep and history in media. That doesn't even include just going into censorship and depictions of women. How can you be a critic and dissect movies/shows without knowing about the code? Especially when US media is so popular internationally and she's Canadian? Lots of youtube videos talking about queer history in cinema bring it up too. She probably does know about it but it's inconsequential to her and the narrative she's trying to push so didn't even take it into consideration.

[@LaNoLaCola]

While there is something to be said about exploring lgbt representation within animation from media outside America, lorch is not the person equipped for it. Between her scattershot points, need to be the voice of authority on topics she doesn't know, and vitriol towards the creators she hates, this latest vid from lorch is just another spiteful hit piece against her usual targets.

[@avivastudios2311]

Lorch?

[@lexx1745]

@@avivastudios2311Lily Orchard. Or as I like to call her, L orchard.

[@NangkeDrawsstuff]

"Lorch"... ooh, I like that! Sounds like lurch but more oafish and slouchy

[@jondoe7036]

@@NangkeDrawsstuff Kinda sounds like it could be a name for an orc from Lord of the Rings. A name that evokes the idea of a being, who's as pathetic as they are evil. In other words, it is absolutely perfect for our self-absorbed lying sack of Lorch over here.

[@JoshtheOverlander]

Side note, love how Sai belts out "ASS" like the AVGN XD

[@SaiScribbles]

I did probably pick it up from him 😂

[@WeakFreak]

do you think one of the reason why Lily hated on SU when it started because she put the Crystal Gems (Garnet, Pearl and Amethyst) in the "sisters" category and was then disapointed that none of them had any sisterly or romantic relationships between them? because that would make a lot of sense.

[@Squishy_the_fox]

I think you've finally cracked the code!!

[@Topdoggie7]

I don't want to think about SU incest.

[@Grf1556]

Lily's gross and predatory incest fetish rears it's ugly head yet again, Does that woman do nothing all day but goon?

[@ma.2089]

Oh I thought it could cuz Pearl didn’t get with another woman, Rose. And rose didn’t date Pearl cuz it would’ve been a power dynamic over her. And instead got with a man.

[@FlyingSchweenies]

@@ma.2089what do you mean?

[@melonsodaproductions2838]

About Utena being on youtube: It is sadly GEOBLOCKED in a lot of European countries. So I HAD to watch the show on a pirate site (I didn’t wanna buy a vpn as I wasn’t sure I was gonna like it). However, I enjoyed it so much I am considering buying a dvd box of the full show

[@anonymoususer9197]

I think a VPN would have put you less at risk but I'm glad you enjoyed it regardless lol

[@Smoothïllustrated]

I know right!? Sai said it previously stream I was confused why it only showed me 1 episode before blocking me. VPNs ain’t cheap

[@melonsodaproductions2838]

@@anonymoususer9197 As said by smoothillustrated, VPN ain't cheap x) I can only really afford a subscription on it every now and then (I always miss my shot when people advertise it cheaper), and the only time I'm really interested in a VPN is when watching shows on streaming services that I can't see in my country. With Utena, as I didn't know if I were to like it, I didn't wanna waste a VPN subscription just on a "maybe". And I am very used to pirate sites, so I am aware of all the risks

[@anonymoususer9197]

@@Smoothïllustrated some freemium VPNs have American networks for free I recommend thunder VPN I think the app is called

[@melonsodaproductions2838]

@@Smoothïllustrated VPNs really are not cheap 😅 I only really get one when I wanna watch a new season on a show they haven't released here on a streaming service. Then I remove the subscription again as soon as I'm done. As I didn't know if I would like Utena, I didn't wanna risk buying a vpn in that case - it was easier finding the first best pirate site.

[@Astrocussy]

Someone needs to clean all the black mold on Lillys walls before she starts saying more slurs

[@Batz-on-paws]

No no, let it grow. Maybe she'll end up saying something so bad that will cost her her fanbase and people will realize how much she sucks

[@Topdoggie7]

I spat out my drink.

[@somethingcreative32]

​@@Batz-on-paws that's a great idea.

[@KamiRoxy]

Lily really is the Chris Chan of modern day…give it some time and we’ll find out she has a Gardevoir necklace

[@GravityFaiz]

All that’s left is her writing comics about her “victories” over every inconvenience and person/characters that annoy her and twist them as her winning all of them. Oh, and a spin off comic of her having the sixty nine with someone she likes.

[@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168]

If Chris Chan was more well spoken.

[@Topdoggie7]

If Chris Chan was into kids from the get go.

[@somethingcreative32]

If Chris chan was into incest lesbian power from the start.

[@ave1dragon]

The weird thing about Lily and The Loud House is that she would refuse to acknowledge the gay rep when it first came out. Like people would ask her to talk about it and she said no and mentioned it being average, but now she loves it? I think because Loud house was popular at the time and she hates popular things.

[@magical571]

popular allergy. She is still that angry teenager hating at things just because they are loved by others.

[@mayayamato7351]

I find it so funny how the only consistent opinions she has are: -popular thing bad -im more progressive than you -im hate serialized action shows wahh wah

[@goingunder2548]

She probably likes all of the 'interesting' fan content of the child characters and their siblings

[@Baby0rang369]

Again thank u for the advice last week Sai! I feel very confident in my au now

[@Smoothïllustrated]

Again Nothing against Canada as I’ enjoy many Canadian animators but for Lily to claim Canada was Groundbreaking or “trendsetters” in Gay rep is a bold Assumption when she clearly have not done any research on Gay history or even Animation history. Bc her ADHD brain takes things at face value and that she Wants’ her guilty pleasure shows to be Hidden gems when they were just mainstream.

[@LuneLovesLiterature]

As someone with ADHD, we don't claim her.

[@LaNoLaCola]

Not to mention she definitely wasn't on the look out for these shows with supposed LGBT+ representation when she grew up, pre-transition.

[@Smoothïllustrated]

@@LuneLovesLiterature Of course we don’t claim her as someone who also’ has ADHD. ✌️ I’ don’t mean to diagnose her or confirm her mental state but I only mean it as I see many similarities in her thought process. Even her ranting with no points or threads. And I never thought I’d say this.. but she is a lot! And I think she needs to chill

[@Smoothïllustrated]

@@LaNoLaCola That’s Very good point. though to be fair I don’t think every LGBTQ+ kid was looking out for shows growing up until later when they realized why they connected with these characters. Or at least that’s how it was for me. As myself being close to Lily’s generation, and remembering that the internet wasn’t available or allowed to kids until later years. But I agree with you, that she wasn’t on the look out then and she certainly isn’t on the look out “now”! Because she only wanna watch her own nostalgia comfort shows. She hasn’t looked out or researched what other LGBTQ+ kids grew up with or go out of her ways to talk about them. only the ones she’ grew up with and act as if it was the only show worth mentioning or the only ones that “did it right” as Lily boldly incorrectly claim.

[@KirbyStarAnimation]

1:10:50 To be fair if you had a choice to pirate a Disney show, or pay 10.99 a month to watch it you would probably pirate it too no matter how much you like it.

[@Lemoncakelover678]

I disagree with straight people taking away 'partners' because as far as i know, partners were always a term to vaguely describe any type of relationship. Just because gay people use it doesnt mean people shouldnt use this vague broad term, especially when it excludes other people in the community like aspecs who can use that vague term to describe their own relationships without being directly connotated to romantic and/or sexual.

[@SaiScribbles]

If you're asexual in an opposite sex relationship no one is going to look twice at you anyway. Like I said same sex couples kind of used "partner" to signal at each other.

[@Lemoncakelover678]

​​@@SaiScribblesOkay but what about aromantics or aroaces who obviously don't wanna be associated with romantic terms like boyfriend or girlfriend anyway regardless of dating the same or opposite sex? What if someone dates a non binary person? Do you see how a vague term 'partner' to describe a relationship maybe suitable for others than just same sex couples?

[@DarkVideogamer]

@@SaiScribbles if I recall correctly, there was a small movement to let straight people use partners because it normalized the term and didn't accidentally 'out' people who didn't want to be outed for any reason.

[@magical571]

@@SaiScribbles To me, partner feels like a less gendered way of refering to, well, your partner. and i'm all for that, be it for gays or straights or any orientation saying it. Boyfriend and girlfriend have always felt awkardly gendered to me, and the fact that they include the "boy" and "girl" part also feels weird lol. I know we are used to it, but i don't know, i would much rather move onto "partner"

[@simonclover1954]

@@magical571 “boyfriend” and “girlfriend” sound juvenile to me.

[@desidominguez2876]

I said this on stream but Jennifer Hale has dual citizenship in Canada and the US. So we didn’t “keep” her. We’re *sharing* her. Cry about it. Edit: Keanu has dual citizenship, also. That’s two for two!

[@matt0044]

I think Lily is threatened by Catra. Seriously, the way Catra's character arc plays out feels similarly self-destructive to Lily. Mind you, I say this in a "really cool and compelling character but would be hell to know as a real person" kind of way. And yes, the incest projection.

[@princekyle4132]

She’s exactly how Catra would be as a real person. Kinda interesting on TV, but in person, you’d fucking hate her and be scared of her 😭

[@matt0044]

@@princekyle4132 Sadly I don't see a Season Five for Lily.

[@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168]

Probably why she repeats that the two of them are "adopted sisters", also so she can somehow circumvent the incest allegations by acting outraged at "two adopted sisters hooking up". But on a "reviewer" level, it also makes her disliking Catradora seem more morally correct. That smug livestream where she said "It was deemed groundbreaking.........you know they're two adopted siblings hooking up right?", was so smackable. It's like she thinks she knew what thousands and thousands of people missed, even though it's more likely that she's the one doing the misreading. She thinks she's smarter than all the viewers who hyped it up and thinks she's pulling a "GOTCHA" or a "OH SHIT, everyone missed it!"

[@matt0044]

@@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168 Lily is sadly one part of the wider problem of willful misreadings if only to claim that XYZ depiction of previous taboo identity doesn't count. The "sisters" thing was something she likely heard from and saw a golden ticket for more content fodder. She is doing what she's accusing those seemingly overlooking Canadian animation of but far worse as usual.

[@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168]

I think it's less that she's saying that it "doesn't count" and more that it's "too problematic to be worth counting"

[@Hot_SpicyGrill]

lillys unironically blaming the working class for studios.

[@NecroMady]

Unsurprising, she's SUPER ULTRA classist lmao

[@amberdawn868]

I think Lily's dislike of lore in part comes from how MLP:FiM changed from being an episodic slice of life show to becoming more serialized and more action/lore focused. She was quite vocal in her opinion that the show went downhill when continuity and lore and the magic system actually became important to watching and understanding it.

[@matt0044]

Except it didn't. Yes, there would be more continuity with new stuff building off the old buuuuuut it was still purely episodic involving the characters navigating social situations in a fantasy world. There'd be a Myth Arc at most where Season Finales would bring elements of certain episodes to fruition.

[@leviticusprime4904]

@@matt0044lily could barely handle mlp imagine if she knew about warhammer 40k, oh that would be funny

[@HurtWorks]

Thing you gotta understand Sai is that Lorch is terminally online. I noticed this when I watched her video "Fandom has a race problem", and her evidence was to bring up how the most talked about characters in like 4 seperate shows were white, and thus that must mean Fandom was racist, nevermind that these shows had nothing to do with each other and probably had completely different fan bases, nevermind the audiences were probably made up of a bunch of different ethnicities, nevermind most people dont think about race 24/7 and probably base who their favorite characters are on how they're WRITTEN... Lily read a couple of posts with like 30 upvotes on Reddit and so felt comfortable labeling THE CONCEPT OF FANDOM as racist, if she can do that, it doesnt suprise me at all that she flips out over a couple of online fluff pieces on representation

[@matt0044]

Like there is a discussion to be had about the “White Fan Fave” phenomenon but Lily isn’t equipped for it.

[@embre2518]

57:16 NOOOO NOT THE 6TEEN SLANDER. WAHHHHH. that was my childhood show…..

[@Lemoncakelover678]

She hasn't actually look at ai if she thinks 6teen looks ai before ai like are you kidding me, sai it's just an art style.

[@psychotophatcat]

​@@Lemoncakelover678 She just meant how smooth and puppeted the animation was back then. You have to admit, the clips Lily chose weren't exactly the best examples of 6teen's animation 😅

[@avivastudios2311]

14:28 Canadian animation might be low quality but the stuff they did was very entertaining. You need to watch Kid vs Kat and the Red Wall series. That's the stuff I remember the most.

[@chickenelafsworld7105]

I’m going to be honest I didn’t realize it was 9/11 today until like 15 minutes into the stream I thought they were just average internet 9/11 jokes

[@SaraBanartist]

I watched Braceface on and off and idk what the Hell she's talking about making it seem like Sharon's braces keep causing shit every episode. They acted up SOMETIMES, but there'd be several whole episodes where they'd have nothing to do with the plot, and when they did it was real minor.

[@I_Am54738]

In defense of Canada They have Total Drama And 6Teen which are some of my favorite cartoon

[@acleaver1874]

Now that this video is back and I can finish it the funniest thing about Lily talking about how annoyed she is with adventure fantasy stories….lily where’s your loud house OC? Oh you have OC’s for Star Wars, Avatar, Pokemon, and MLP? You mean exclusively adventure fantasy settings….ok

[@MissJasmine305]

wait holy shit, i didn't even think about that lmao

[@mekiherring2088]

if thats the case keep her FAR AWAY from adventure time, seriously I don't want to live in a world were she hates finn for being a white blonde boy.

[@GravityFaiz]

@@mekiherring2088she’d use Finn making Flame Princess fight Ice King to get his rocks off as an excuse to hate him, even though it does lead into a character arc where he eventually gets over the break up that was entirely his fault.

[@mekiherring2088]

@@GravityFaiz you know the second she finds out about that she's going to make Finn look like the "true villain" of adventure time or something

[@GravityFaiz]

@@mekiherring2088 The true villain over the harbinger of death (The Lich) or a GOD of Chaos (Golb). Definitely this 13-14 year old boy just living in a strange magical world that came from a post apocalyptic former world similar to ours until the nukes came in.

[@thrillhouse3224]

Man I'm in a bit of a conundrum I wanna know what bad takes Lily had in her newest Korra video, but I don't wanna watch the video itself, and Sai said she's not gonna react to it anytime soon. I've actually rewatched Legend of Korra several times in the last year, so I feel like I'd be able to speak with more authority on her bullshit.

[@theshire9173]

Same here. I always loved Korra while understanding its faults (I’ll never forgive them for the love triangle drama in seasons 1 and 2). But I couldn’t stand watching it alone and my friends would think I’m weird if I invited them to watch with me

[@brandonlyon730]

Even as someone who is not a fan Korra, I still know that Lily will misunderstand or miss the point of many things as usual or just get things wrong while acting like she knows anything.

[@anonymoususer9197]

How to do it without giving money is getting vanced, clicking on it immediately pausing so the view doesn't count getting the link and downloading it though I guess watching one of her videos without a reaction to keep you sane is already hard

[@thrillhouse3224]

​@@anonymoususer9197 I'd much rather watch a reaction to a Lorch video than watch one by itself. Because A: I'm not boosting her in the algorithm directly B: It's better for me to have someone fact check her in real time C: Nail gun acupuncture is a preferable experience than watching a Lorch video

[@matt0044]

Sai should do a Let’s Watch of Korra and then one of Lily’s bad takes.

[@The_EB_Consortium_Arc]

(Stolas voice) It was all… about Canada… EDIT: Also Lily apparently disavows her statement that Helluva Boss is garbage, make of that what you will.

[@Direwolf181]

Hellaverse fans dont want her

[@wwefreak62]

​@@Direwolf181 Vivzipop doesn't her. Literally

[@Direwolf181]

@@wwefreak62 yeah I saw that Viv probably hates hee because how she treats Rebecca Is exactly how hee haters go after her for anything

[@meganpayette5996]

9:00 - You know what they say, Sai: "You can't rush art!"

[@gabcakes3430]

Lily’s entire video is giving when you have to write a paper for school, and halfway through you realize all your points go right against your main argument, but you got this far so might as well make up some bullshit 😂

[@calliepancakes]

trying to squeeze as much of this vod as i can into my break at work. shocking development: lorch has no idea what she's talking about and is lying out of her ass to cope

[@zcgamerandreacts2762]

Stream starts: 8:05

[@avivastudios2311]

Thanks. I was fast forwarding a lot but I didn't make it.

[@zcgamerandreacts2762]

@@avivastudios2311 I gotchu bro.

[@deadmanmac]

51:56 3:05:40 3:52:38 LOOK THERE I AM GARY THERE I AM! Overall this was a pretty good stream, everyday is a good day to dunk on Lorch. Edit: THE STREAM IS BACK 🎉🎉

[@TheAbigailDee]

Lily is the embodiment of that "making up a guy to be mad at" meme.

[@itsmia6521]

my prayers were heard and now i can finally listen to this intellectual art piece

[@dracocrusher]

God, Lily really isn't a leftist at all, is she? I've never seen a Trans Girl unironically not get what Deadnaming is. Deadnaming isn't bad because you use someone's original name. It's bad because you're rejecting their Trans identity. If someone cis just changes their name and they're fine with their old name then it's really not the same thing. But Lily just knows Deadnaming is a thing so she has to force it in like a buzzword to virtue signal that she's an ally because, if she didn't, NOTHING about her content would really feel that progressive, would it?

[@TreeDwellingShrimp]

Yeah, to me she always sounds like an angry right wing reddit mod who takes their unhinged opinions and puts them through what she thinks is a leftist filter, buzzwords and all.

[@somethingcreative32]

I don't think she represents transgender people. My older brother is transgender and he doesn't represent transgender people.

[@Actionfan19]

Hi actual Canadian here, we've got some actual decent shows from the 80s and 90s. The Raccoons, Stickn' around, Rupert.

[@magical571]

i would blame unfortunate selections for export

[@toasttitan3253]

Say what you want about Canadian animation (yes most of it’s really bad but I’m Canadian so I forgive it for nostalgia’s sake) but I dare you to tell me that Storm Hawks wasn’t an actual banger that absolutely did not deserve to be cancelled It was THE Canadian cartoon when it was airing, it had entire blocks dedicated to it, it had toys and commercials It’s honestly a huge shame that the studio got shut down because they had other shows too League of Super Evil (a meh comedy show) Hot Wheels Battle Force Five (another good action show) And the big one was Slugterra (haven’t actually seen so I don’t know the genre) All this is to say that the show Lily is talking about in this video looks HORRIBLE

[@amethystimagination3332]

Canada has a lot of hidden gems in animation that people don’t know about because they only export Johnny Test for whatever reason

[@skillfulbones6178]

BRO WDYM STREAMED 1 MINUTE AGO! Why is it not giving me these until you're done streaming!

[@CGFillertext]

Same here but 11 minutes ago

[@Direwolf181]

Regarding Catra and Adora... we basically see Catra go through a downward spiral the entire series Reaching its zenith at the end of the 4th season where she literally has all her bullshit thrown in her face in a brutal reason you suck speech. Season 5 has her do a lot to try and be a better person and get over her toxic tendencies. They got together after both dealt with a lot of character development and resolved their issues Lily just cant handle plot Catra being toxic is literally spelled out several times she has to work through her issues and heal to be a better person

[@Shuffles_Art]

Lily can’t handle the idea of a toxic person understanding her toxic traits and learning to be a better person because Lily herself is a toxic person that will never understand her toxic traits and thus will never learn to be a better person.

[@cosmicwooloo]

Listening to this while playing destiny 2. It's always fun exploring the frozen hell of Europa while listening to you tear lily apart

[@TheAbigailDee]

Also as a lesbian Canadian, the only thing I care about regarding the Zone is telling everyone that one of the hosts of The Zone would eventually win RuPaul's Drag Race Canada. Priyanka!! That's the REAL Canadian kids tv gay heritage that matters. That's the only important fact about The Zone!!

[@OthelloSilvermoon]

Reboot and Tansfromers: beast wars where Canadian shows sadly braceface was shown in the us on fox kids I believe.

[@ninja2be]

They are both so good too. Shame about how they look, but humanity does adapt.

[@NiamhIsBig]

Ayyyeee it’s back! I was gonna watch this the day after the stream then saw Lily sniped it

[@kristinag7621]

1:03:56 actually Sai we had Braceface 6Teen and a few more of those shoes here in New York 😅

[@Ariento]

Yeah I remember watching 6Teen on Cartoon Network, along with reading online that it was rather censored compared to the original Canadian version.

[@mayayamato7351]

I only vaguely remember brace face being a thing but I loved 6teen and had a little baby gay crush on Nikki and wondered why her romance arc was that chump (no diss on Jonesy I'm just giving tough love, dude was a loser tbh) and not a cute girl.

[@bonkdonk4825]

Today is my mom's birthday! (Yes, on 9/11) She just turned 40! 😎🎉🎂

[@Smoothïllustrated]

Congratulations ✨🎉 hope she have good one. can’t be easy sharing the day

[@SkylarThompson-mu1qs]

Cool!

[@brandonlyon730]

It’s my Dad’s birthday as well.

[@father270]

i hate how straight charachters arent expected to "represent" being straight, they are just existing, but gay charachters have to always be "GOOD PERFECT GAY REP" instead of just existing as gay. like i understand wanting more openly gay charachters with gay relationships w a lotta screentime ect but when a show has a gay charachter whos only a side charachter it doesn't mean the show is bad.

[@papercutsunset]

1:14:32 I don't know if you get to this later/figure it out later, but I'm pretty sure Dion was a senior at Sharon's high school who was supposed to be her "mentor" and friend when she was a freshman, kinda. It's been a while since I watched Braceface, though. (I totally forgot about the inflatable bra thing until it came up here.)

[@JoshtheOverlander]

Aaaaayyyyyyyyyyy, ToonrificTariq name-drop! Love his videos

[@mayayamato7351]

My favorite lorch trope is when she praises the most stereotypical f slur characters or episodes that are just so... Hamfisted as to be borderline homophobic at best and acts like those are on par or better than ones by queer creators. See also: her love of the episode Quagmires Dad from family guy, with a full uncomfortable scene of Brian (the supposedly learned liberal voice of the show) vomiting and screaming when he finds out Ida (iirc that was her name but don't quote me) was trans.

[@Hot_SpicyGrill]

I think a big reason Lilly hates lore, is because she blames lore for Wow and SU for turning into things she doesn't like. Classic World of Warcraft had a story, but like you actually have to pay attention and look for it. This is because the playable races had there own starting zones so its really hard to build a over arching plot around that. Then in mostly Cataclysm they actually told you the story up front. Not saying BC and Wrath didn't tell you the plot but Cataclysm used the lore unlike other expansions.

[@vexfidel4127]

WE ARE SO BACK

[@angelsartandgaming]

Missed the last 40 minutes. But my God bruuuuhhhh. Lily is.... Something

[@AJedits65]

Yes lily these minor one time characters that are only porpoise for representation are way better than anything in owl house and Steven universe despite the have way more screen time and are way more interesting 🙄

[@strawsberries8206]

It's been two weeks, but let's see if we can still ratio Lily's original video now that the stream is back up. Edit: And like clockwork.

[@artsandgoodies4653]

Wait a sec, I remember braceface, I have lived in new England all my life but I distinctly remember Disney channel playing that show. so it did air in my area. wild childhood memory unlocked.

[@ryuspiritvtuber]

Nice to hear Nights into Dreams on both the intro and outro of the stream

[@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168]

Sai’s impression at 1:19:42 is scary good

[@artsandgoodies4653]

Straight passing an important culture bipoc queer historical thing (Though "realness" is the more fitting term). Straight passing is an important historical defense mechanism for queer people, especially bipoc queer people. You need to look into Ballroom culture and specifically the history of the "realness" category. You can still not like the idea, but to reject it completely is to ignore it's important in queer survival. In the vogue community and at it's start "realness" has been a category, both for male and female roles. They pretend to be cis gender and heteronormative to help each other survive in daily life. Please educate yourself about this subject beyond my comment. "Paris is burning" is a great documentry to start your ballroom education, but also look up specifically the history of "realness" categories in ballroom. Straight passing is a skill that was taught for the survival of Bipoc queers in the city and is an important part of queer history. PS. hope this comment makes senses and not ill willed or anything

[@SomeGaymerNerd]

nonbinary person here! trans = nonbinary, the white on the trans flag represents people outside the gender norm, like nonbinary people

[@redribbonredneck]

Shoutout to whoever brought up the Precure dub. I love you.

[@matt0044]

Y'know if Toei wanted to bring over PreCure, they could? They're doing that with Digimon now. They could at least make Futari Wa's dub free on KZbin.

[@redribbonredneck]

@matt0044 I thought they stopped with Digimon after Fusion and the reunion movies. But I'm not a fan of the series to know that. Toei could bring back Precure, but idk how easy that would be, considering there's so many seasons to choose from. It was a miracle Power Rangers even took off, and with that it took years to finally adapt something that wasn't Zyuranger.

[@matt0044]

@@redribbonredneck While Adventure gets the lion's share, subs of some recent season have been official. Mostly. It's weird. For Precure, every Season baring two sequels is its own thing. They can bounce around. GoPri would work towards the Disney crowd. Star Twinkle would have a semi Sci-Fi angle to work with. Huggto involve coming of age and who one wants to be, involve a not so subtle queer leaning. Heck, I personally wouldn't mind Glitter Force as an international brand (burn me at the stake but I said what I said) IF they lean back the cultural localization to something less 4kids and more balance. It's all about them taking a chance but studio heads are weird about it.

[@redribbonredneck]

@@matt0044 I understand that each season is a stand-alone, but due to how dated a lot of them are, it'll be hard to sell to the intended audience of young girls. Even as a kid, I noticed this with some shows and was kinda turned away from it. But I was also a weird kid. Unfortunately, due to how anime marketed to kids tend to be, it would 100% go the 4Kids route if dubbed. Even the faithful Canadian dub didn't get away with it.

[@matt0044]

@@redribbonredneck Most of the animation quality could pass for today's standard if that's what you mean. The Canadian dub was at least faithful to the spirit of the original even with some of the changes like an Earthquake changed from a war. Hell, even Glitter Force wasn't a far cry in its localization of Smile since it was a very episodic season with a thin plot stretched across it. The voice acting especially made the script work with Laura Bailey being a delight. That said… the Japanese names and settings should be retained. It’s a weird back slide for a dub produced for Saban considering that Digimon has had a good track record of not changing the Earth setting to America. Seriously, you had Digimon Adventure’s Eighth Digidestined arc explicitly claim that the kids were Japanese. They lived in Odaiba. They had nicknames in the dub but their full names were shown in Episode 1 to be Japanese. So I feel this same sort of open mindedness should’ve been kept for Glitter Force. Given Anime is pretty much mainstream, dubs made with kids in mind should probably consider that even My Hero Academia is enjoyed by kids. Oh, and don’t skip any episodes. And dub the theme songs from the original so we can all sing and dance during the credits. Sorry, I went off. Basically they can make it work if they go at least 30% 4kids and 60% Saban.

[@empeanutson]

The Lloyd in Space episode reminds me a lot of the Robot Jones episode called "Gender". But the genderless character is at least the main character, unlike Xoit

[@swamplinglvr]

I went and saw Wicked in SF today so I'm catching the VOD after the fact

[@icravedeath.1200]

Based

[@jexim_kymaria]

The “starting soon” music goes so hard

[@andrewdiaz3529]

1:54:40 I was kind of a fan of 6teen. I don't think I saw all of it (I know I only saw the back half of the Halloween special for example, and I missed the finale) but I don't remember this episode, and while it's possible to forget, the show is pretty memorable. I don't think this episode was aired in the US

[@brandonlyon730]

The episode that featured the Lesbian girl was flat out a banned episode in Cartoon Network U.S so that’s probably why you never saw the episode when the show was still on.

[@MissJasmine305]

This and at least 2 other episodes were banned in the US (maybe a couple more, i don't remember). The other episodes I remember being banned was the one where Jonesy accidentally sees Jen naked during a bridesmaid dress fitting, and the period episode.

[@nathandavidson7298]

I would like to say that while I do agree that forcing people into a role they feel uncomfortable being in is wrong; gender roles in of themselves are not inherently wrong. It’s a matter of cultural perspective and I actually kinda find it strange to say that they are universally a bad thing. It’s more nuanced than that. Now that said, I firmly believe people are free to pursue whatever they like when it comes to things like hobbies and career paths.

[@avivastudios2311]

Something that everyone in the world should agree on. Well said.

[@magical571]

i believe gender roles are indeed a bad thing. you said it your yourself, gender ROLES, not just gender expression. femininity and mascunality can exist as concepts and aspects of self expression, without them being gender roles. If it's seen as a role, it means it's a culturally manufactured profile that gets pushed onto people since they are born, no way around it, even in the more "mild" scenarios. It will inevitably mean that you were either railroaded into it in the "harmless" cases, or inevitably cause issues if a bump in the road arrives since a default already exists in the form of roles. i would much rather have non of that, and if people naturally come to a similar outcome then so be it, great! now it's more valuable and genuine since it had no interference or external push. you truly can never know if you would be the same without said interference, and for many, they indeed wouldn't, hence why, for example, people raised in more accepting families tend to be, shocking, more accepting and vice versa. what could have otherwise been your goals or happiness in life is very hard to picture when since day you were shown babies and brides and dresses and so on as a girl, it's something you can't even measure by yourself since you will only vaguely remember it, yet it's know to influence greatly your later choices in life. but without said roles and the unavoidable issues that arise with even having roles in the first place, well, it would mean you found it for yourself instead of it just being the default you, well, defaulted to. i hope my point came across. gender expression in itself isn't damaging, but gender roles are, absolutely. Gender roles bring a blanket of performative homogeneity at best, or submission, concsious or unconcsious masking, delayed self discovery, judgement, bullying, exclusion, violence and turmoil at worst.

[@nathandavidson7298]

@@magical571 While I don’t agree with this in its entirety, you do have a fair perspective on the matter and I can see what you’re coming from; I believe I slightly misspoke and correlated expression with role.

[@redballoon9007]

Korrasami is one of those ships that wouldn’t have been so hated if it was shown sooner, and I can’t blame that fully on the writers. Also no mention of OK KO and Adventure Time from Lily? Smh

[@Hot_SpicyGrill]

Lilly would not hellva boss. The gays are the A plot not the B plot. Also the bulge merch would piss her off. Also I think Lilly would be one of those Millie is super deep Viz is a asshole for not having her in more.

[@Kai_Xero]

The one thing I want to point out is that lloyd in space doesn’t even have any gay characters. The character lily is using as an example Zoit, isn’t gay, they’re non binary and only appeared in one episode. Keep being classy lily.

[@PaintSplashProductions]

Considering Lily's options on the LGBTQIA+ term, I'm not surprised

[@madisonbugbear3397]

I was born 2 days after 9/11, when my birthday came around both my middle and highschool would show videos and presentations about the trauma of 9/11 :)

[@SaiScribbles]

See I only learned recently that kids were made to watch footage of it every year. I find that kind of alarming.

[@Shuffles_Art]

I will forever be a Korrasami defender, they’re my favourite. Yes I’m a little biased cus I love when characters are allowed to be queer, but genuinely I feel like with a little more development would’ve made them much better. Like what’s the alternative? Having her be with Mako? The guy that she fell in love with the literal second that she showed up with like no chemistry whatsoever? Bolin? The guy that Korra shows basically zero connection with and like nobody even likes? I feel like it’d perfect to show the audience that you don’t *have* to find love so quickly and rush into everything, and you don’t have to force yourself into finding somebody that you don’t really love, you can take your time and develop your relationships with other people. The homophobia of the show business at the time really fucked up their potential, but I think the relationship thrives much more in extended media and just in the fandom in general. Also CATRA AND ADORA AREN’T ADOPTED SISTERS!!! I’m genuinely convinced Lily just *wants* to see them make gay incest love so she just assumes that they’re related when they’re not. Shadow weaver adopted Adora when Hordak wanted her thrown away, Catra was literally just one of the thousands of children that were taken to be indoctrinated into the horde. Catra doesn’t have a family, that’s literally the point of joining the horde, you have nothing. There’s a canon poly couple that are also in the horde, are they all incest too?? Is the gay lizard doing gay incest with his gay soldier friends??? Lily just does not understand anything about queerness, she’s like 15 years behind on every progressive message ever which just makes everything she says sound incredibly pointless and heavily outdated. It’s like she just doesn’t like these shows and so she’s going out of her way to not understand anything about it. Yes Raine would be considered trans because they’re non-binary and that falls under the trans umbrella (transgender means to identify differently than your gender assigned at birth. Identifying as Non-binary falls under that umbrella term) but lumping Raine in as just “this is one of the trans ones” just totally diminishes all of the complex dynamics that these characters have in the story. Luz and Amity are now “the gay ones”, Raine is “the trans one”, etc etc. but it’s not as if Lily cares about exploring complex character relationships and character dynamics. Owl House is popular so it’s bad, She-Ra is popular so it’s bad, *Steven Universe* is popular so it’s bad. Also is Lily Orchard’s entire consensus on this just “Gay rep should never strive to be on the same level as straight rep, they should just be quirky side characters based only on stereotypes and never let them be in more than 2 episodes at a time”??? That’s fucking insane and honestly makes her sound so fucking homophobic. But then she also likes Hazbin Hotel, where there are more gay characters than straight ones??? Her whole worldview is so inconsistent and stupid, she can’t comprehend her own dumbass opinions. I fuckin hate Lily Orchard 😭😭😭

[@magical571]

"Like what’s the alternative? Having her be with Mako?" I mean, to be fair, she didn't HAVE to have a boyfriend/girlfriend. Just because aang and katara were a thing, it doesn't mean every avatar we get to know after that HAS to have a love interest on screen. I could also say that if she ended up with nobody, it teaches a similar thing to what you described, or even better, you may think you are love with the first person you come across, but maybe it's just not the right person for you, and maybe it's not even the right moment for a relationship alltogether, you don't HAVE to be on the look for one, it's fine to be single.

[@Shuffles_Art]

@@magical571 that is very true tbh, it is definitely an option to just not have her fall in love with someone and I didnt really give that much thought, but you also have to admit that it’s very unlikely that a story will just *not* have a primary love interest in it. It’s unfortunately just a huge part of pretty much any story-driven narrative, the main character always ends up with somebody at the end of it all. So going under the assumption that Korra *has* to end up with somebody, the only real options are either Mako, Bolin or Asami, unless you just bring in a new character or have Korra branch out to go fall in love with someone that isn’t a part of the main cast.

[@amethystrose2671]

I love how as soon as she found out that she was 5 percent indigenous, she had her wife draw her with brown skin and feather earrings.

[@Hot_SpicyGrill]

If you want Ian to watch your streams, youll have to talk okko. Or insert horny Garnet in your thumbnails

[@baby-w6h7i]

Lorch thinks steven universe is universally loved (pun intended) solely because theyve got gay rep but the only reason little me was obsessed w the show was because it was about colorful gems fighting against big bad diamonds, didn't realize there were gay until i turned like, 15

[@samspics7311]

I’m surprised lily didn’t mention Fred’s Head where one of the main characters is a lesbian but skirts around the word by making a repeated joke that she doesn’t have a boyfriend and the ONLY reason a high school girl wouldn’t have a boyfriend is cause she’s a lesbian and no other reason ever.

[@ijustlikebees]

We're back, baby

[@andrewdiaz3529]

Have to second Laika: Aged through Blood. Great music, interesting world

[@somethingcreative32]

Tbh, the only video she made that actually STAYED on topic was the one where she berates Steven Universe and called its creator (who I've heard was Jewish by the way) a Nazi.

[@randomskykidboy]

One of my favorite Canadian shows that played in the us was “class of the titans” based around Greek gods, Greek heros, and their descendants. Very unfortunate that it’s main guy shares the same name as my shitty dad. Anyways, it’s pretty underrated in my opinion, fun to watch too.

[@Hanako-Kun-t9b]

The first kids cartoon I saw that had a recurring gay character in it was Mr.Simmons from Hey Arnold which Lily continues to ignore.

[@theforgottenscribe]

Partners as a term exists far beyond romantic connotations, regardless of anything. Someone speaking of a partner may not actually be talking about a ROMANTIC partner. And its unisex. You wouldn't call your agender romantic partner a girlfriend or a boyfriend. Because theyre not either. Theyre your romantic partner. Also look up queerplatonic relationships. Partner suits those relationships better than the explicitly, implicitly romantic boyfriend or girlfriend. If you think a term should be exclusive, Sai, maybe take some time to educate yourself on the people who may identify with it who aren't under your consideration. (Also 'passing' is ultimately just erasure. I am uncomfortable and distressed everytime i am misgendered, but i am NOT safe to come out widely. It is not privledge to be under constant emotional duress because i cant safely come out in an overtly public manner.)

[@thebattle7000]

Didn't she say she doesn't like straight people taking partner because it was a way to signal to other LGBT folk that you're LGBT without openly saying it, I don't think she's opposed to using partner in queer circles, she's opposed to straights using it because it's way more socially acceptable to have a partner of the opposing sex than of the same sex/non-binary partner.

[@KirbyStarAnimation]

36:13 There were quite actually a good chunk of internet articles praising Catradora as a groundbreaking relationship. Not an insane amount but it was noticeable.

[@DarkVideogamer]

Normally I'm down for your lily take downs, but I will admit i think you were leaning... wayy to hard into the canadian animation sucks angle... like you can't sit there and say that no slop or bad animation would be shown on US networks when there have been plenty of american made shows that look like crap that have been aired.

[@Lemoncakelover678]

Yeah idk if she was joking but if she was genuine, she just looks like a hypocrite since she literally critique lily on this exact ting in Japan.

[@magical571]

@@Lemoncakelover678 mmmm if i try to be fair though, for many of us (i'm speaking from a south american perspective btw), the "good" shows on tv at the time were either american, french or japanese, and the canadian ones that did get exported were pretty much filler. So if better ones existed, well, we only got to see the repetitive teen dramas with that samey yet distinctive "flat" style. The only way to know otherwise, would be to now, as an adult, to google "canadian animated cartoons of the 2000s" and start binge watching. Like, i wouldn't blame someone who grew up during that period to have the perspective of canadian cartoon=bad. keyword, someone from that time. if someone who's like, i don't know, 19 today? were to say that, then i would certainly be confused since they have access to so many options and aren't cursed with coming home after school to find two of the three available cartoon channels being stuck rerunning canadian filler. (blessed be that third channel, that in my case would always run saint seiya at those times lol). I don't know how old are you, but when netflix or other means of choosing what to watch and when weren't a thing, the canadian animation that got exported was cursed (and notice that i said the canadian animation that got exported, not necesarily the canadian animation that got made) and it only made your tv time sad lol. you would be there wanting to watch anything from witch to sailor moon to invader zim or courage, yet you were cursed with another rerun of 6teen (which, if you like it, more power to you, but for many it really was just filler they rather skip but had no option to).

[@DarkVideogamer]

@magical571 and that's a perfectly valid take if we ignore any context of Canada's animation industry being quite younger and not as well funded as some parts of the American industry. but when Lily is talking about characters and character work, defaulting to "but Canadian animation bad XD" isn't as strong or good a take one could make. fun fact: a few of those popular French shows were actually collaborations between French and Canadian studios.

[@Ravensgale]

The only Canadian cartoon worth a damn was Night Hood because it was basically Canadian Lupin The Third, and even at that the animation quality of Night Hood overall as an adult it makes me want to jam tungsten rods into my eyes.

[@oneofnone7947]

6teen was on CN and braice face was disney in the states alot of Canadian animation was on CN I watched alot of it because like background noise when I played my handle games

[@Pukeprincess]

I HAVE IT AGAIN THANKS SAII

[@angelsartandgaming]

Yay it's back!!!

[@Brotherofthe4thCompany]

Dick Ricker: “Money money money money… We can’t keep doing this Bob! We appreciate what you did in the old days, but those days are long gone.”

[@Badgermoles4444]

Perfect background noise for cleaning!

[@Hot_SpicyGrill]

Movie bob didn't leave his room, like he's Jaba. So Lilly couldn't leave her house.

[@matt0044]

I'm a bit of a Moviebob stan. Lord knows that he is nothing like Lily. At least not now. He was a bit like her before but lord knows that he's done major growing up with his Big Picture series being a very good series of time capsules in that regard. He's a boomer but as good as a boomer can get really.

[@tzman215]

Omg I tried to watch it, I really did but the amount of random super chats became insufferable. I'm sorry

[@SaiScribbles]

I'll probably have an edit in the future. This just how my streams get sometimes 😅

[@tzman215]

@@SaiScribbles I appreciate the audience participation and normally I can watch the Vods back just fine but my brain was just not feeling it this time lol. Either way, keep up the good work and I'll be here to watch the edit when it comes out 👍

[@bilonic111]

I caught on to the Kora/Asami hinting early on in season 2, they shared a certain look together and I was like “Wait was that intentional? Cause it seems like they are hinting towards chemistry between the two.” I didn’t watch past season 2 cause I fell off after the season finale but I was happy to hear they made it happen at the end of the series. Just because it confirmed that I didn’t misread that scene.

[@CrustyMajesty]

What’s the song that plays during the “starting soon” segment?

[@artykeldeo]

I MISSED THE STREAAAAAAM NOOOOOOOO