Reacting To Reacting To "Smash 4 Is Broken"

Heeew's "Smash Is Broken" series are classics in the Super Smash Bros. world, showcasing the craziest things from Smash 64 all the way up to Smash Ultimate. I'll be reacting to the reactions of Hungrybox, Panda (Esam and Little Z), and Coney as they take a look back at Smash 4 through Heeew's eyes (with a brief cameo from Alpharad), a fun change of pace!
The featured videos I'm reacting to:
Coney: • She RUINED an ENTIRE S...
Heeew: • Smash 4 is Broken
Hungrybox: • SMASH 4 WAS BROKEN (Re...
Panda: • Was Smash 4 REALLY Bro...
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[@MockRockTalk]

Thanks for watching everyone, tried something a bit different today so please let me know your thoughts! There's a lot more to these reactions (as well as Heeew's original video) that I cut out of this, so if you were watching and thinking "I wish there was more of X person's video to watch," today's your lucky day. I've got them all linked below, please be sure to check them out as well. *Main channel:* kzbin.info *Twitter:* twitter.com/MrMockRock *Patreon:* www.patreon.com/mockrock *Twitch:* www.twitch.tv/mockrocktwitch *Teespring:* teespring.com/stores/mockrock *TimeBolt affiliate link* (excellent software I use to speed up editing on my videos, use code "MOCKROCK" for a discount): mockrock--timebolt.thrivecart.com/order-page/ *Coney:* kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4bXe3uwpp6IlaM *Heeew:* kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5u2l2Ste7xkjKM *Hungrybox:* kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3iWZX2bnbx7q7c *Panda:* kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWKug6Wcl6iXj9E

[@theperians]

Make a Tekken video of some kind

[@DoMorrMusic]

tbh I’m surprised that more people haven’t done “reacting to reaction” style content

[@Vsirugo13]

Love that you included Coney. He’s funny as all living hell and doesn’t get as much recognition as he deserves

[@saltyralts]

Monado Purge is a thing FROM Xenoblade Chronicles. Its effect is pretty simple--there are a few enemies that deal damage to you when you attack them, and some that avoid Shulk's ability to read the future. Monado Purge deactivates these for a while. Not at all how it's used in SSB, but I have to admit it's a fucking awesome name.

[@kyloren1674]

Pls do this agian but with brawl

[@stormRed]

Ultimate: Everyone. Is. Here. Smash 4: Everyone. Is. Lucario.

[@MockRockTalk]

...This is fair.

[@EeveeShadowBacon]

and Lucario is Lucario^2

[@slimballs9650]

@@MockRockTalk Brawl: Everyone. Is. Tripping. Except for Meta Knight.

[@kwisowofer9872]

You should do the “taking smash memes too seriously” again on this channel; seems like a perfect fit

[@MockRockTalk]

I've thought about doing something meme-related, the thing is that "Smash Memes But I Take Them Way Too Seriously" was actually an absurd amount of work haha, definitely outside the scope I want for MockRockTalk. We'll see though, I may do something in that ballpark.

[@greenchucklesjr]

@@MockRockTalk if you do you should definitely look at the "counterpicking sora is an instaloss" meme

[@Empy_C.]

@@MockRockTalk What % of that work was for the Pikachu section?

[@Cadesworth]

@@MockRockTalk i so want to see Mockrock on the meme that is PK Fire

[@DecafPotato]

The "counterpick" era of Smash 4's meta was absolutely something I would wish to come back and was a large portion of why I got into competitive Smash. The wacky nature of custom moves worked perfectly banned from a competitive setting, I feel. They ABSOLUTELY should've been better implemented to provide an interesting dynamic for many characters, and them being a pain in the ass to unlock (I never got more than like, 20% of them, even with all the time I spent playing Smash 4) made them impossible to be well received, but messing around with them was fun and I will stand by that. And yes, Coney is absolutely the most entertaining Smash creator, and it's not even close.

[@Mufflin]

Nah, Larry Lurrs better.

[@laundromatt3129]

@@WhiteKnuckleRide512 I still enjoy all of alpha’s content, and honestly, it may be better than his smash content

[@illford6921]

@M larry doesnt make funny content tho. Its mostly just analysis.

[@woofmasterarf]

This is just a fun trip down memory lane, from the jank of Smash 4 to the reactions of the others. Especially Coney and Hbox who both made some good points. Also we stan Mii Smawler.

[@PeriGreen776]

He's legendary for bringing up afk corrin

[@ASA-ux7cg]

I liked Coney’s unique take as a commentator for Smash 4 and his stories on his time in the scene

[@zacharywoloszynski4258]

love Coney as a content creator. His awful thumbnails/titles turned me off at first, but the actual content and humor is gold

[@magicant6482]

Coney is pretty good for his ability to add to whatever it is he's reacting to. Pretty often 20 seconds of what he's watching will trigger some story or discussion with chat.

[@adamtheriault6743]

If only he wasn't toxic

[@zacharywoloszynski4258]

@@adamtheriault6743 lol how

[@adamtheriault6743]

@@zacharywoloszynski4258 demeaning comments, jokes at other people's expenses, pretending he knows everything and that his opinion is always correct And if you write it off as joking, I wonder how many times you have to see it to believe it, because the only time he's not like that is when he's commentating

[@TriforceZard]

AFK Corrin is still one of the best videos ever to come out of the Smash community

[@amateraceon5202]

I like how this evolved from reacting to people reacting to content to an entire Mii discussion to trying to figure out how to pronounce Little Z

[@MarioSMG64]

Definitely agree that Coney is the naturally funniest Smash creator. He's so effortlessly witty, it's honestly impressive.

[@adriansrsa90]

I choked on my soul watching his indie game tier list

[@glacierwolf2155]

I honestly think that Mega Man would have been a better character to showcase custom moves than Palutena and should have had all of his unlocked from the start, considering that Mega Man is well-known for being able to use Special Weapons in his home series. It's truly a tragedy that those custom moves weren't carried over to Ultimate, as they really did flesh out Mega Man and represented his home series.

[@jmurray1110]

Plus his were different enough while still being similar to his base movesets to better represent customs than palu But palu has sakuri bias so he never stood a chance

[@thegiraffegang8315]

But the Miis LITERALLY exist tho…surely they would’ve been the best characters to showcase custom moves?

[@claudevonrunningman]

25:35 Nah man, Melee Roy is the most faithful representation of a character in Smash. Anyone who’s played FE Binding Blade will agree

[@HippityhoppityGnW]

Lmao ofc

[@mrbister8714]

This video was way more entertaining and informative than a “reacting to reacting to” video had any right to be

[@xolotltolox7626]

I assume you haven't seen jacksfilms reacting to jinx

[@visitinggoat6696]

this is what reaction vids SHOULD be.

[@BromanderInChief]

9:11 This is my favorite part from the Coney video lmfaooo I remember dying when I got to that part. He’s the perfect amount of knowledgeable and hilarious for our community

[@nahte123456]

I love Coney's reactions, and his reaction to the Brawl version is even better. But I find his point on the parasocial relationships in this series. The sheer variety of games represented really makes some people defensive on their favorite vs the actual in game style or tiers.

[@derpydtw]

Bit of S4 lore for y’all, the 3ds and Wii U versions are able to connect and share some bits of data with each other. One of those things is custom move load outs. Instead of getting all 400 special moves on 100 Wii U’s, for Evo, you get all of the moves on 1 3ds and make all of the move sets on that and transfer it to the Wii U version however many times it takes. You also mentioned footstools. While a lot of characters have footstool set ups, many being off of throws. Footstools we’re far more common in doubles. A lot of the best doubles teams use footstools to trap you in infinite ToD combos. You get grabbed once, or get jab reset once and your stock is gone. It’s even less interactive than getting Bayo comboed in singles.

[@LiamWins]

The funny part is that in Australia, Z is also pronounced as Zed, Little Z just pronounces it as Zee because the majority of his audience is American.

[@Rudra_LC]

Half of the top tiers in Smash 4 really did revolve around “how consistently can you kill someone at ludicrously low percents” and not gonna lie, a small, sadistic/masochistic part of me kinda misses it Also Shulk’s Monado Purge 50/50 got its name cuz in Xenoblade there’s a Monado Art called Purge, which is also green like Jump

[@illford6921]

Yes, he was aware

[@EduardoFlores-bt4fo]

You know what I miss? Pre-Cloud doubles. Smash 4 doubles was such an amazing era, it was extremely fun and the meta was really different. Still remember the Ryo and Sol team, my favorite doubles team.

[@trentdm120]

coney spitting truths. i am a true believer that cloud was genuinely worse for the game than bayo. people just remember the worst bayo times way more clearly than cloud's constant oppression and brokeness.

[@emanueltheodorus1056]

@@WhiteKnuckleRide512 Smash 4 Cloud is more broken IMO. He's way easier to use, combo, kill, and limit is just fucking ridiculous. And honestly I don't really feel Pyra/Mythra are as oppressive even in Mid Levels when Min Min, R.O.B., Roy, and Sonic exists.

[@trentdm120]

@@WhiteKnuckleRide512 oh? In my circles I was a dumbass for saying it haha. Glad to hear that wasn't the case everywhere. I think joker and snake are worse for mid level play than pythra, personally. But I think there is a lot of room to disagree in ultimate.

[@theillusionist1494]

It’s really interesting. While I’m not certain Smash 4 Bayonetta would be the best character in the game if you just transplanted her into Ultimate, I AM pretty certain that Smash 4 Cloud WOULD. Even though I think Smash 4 Bayo is significantly better IN Smash 4.

[@trentdm120]

@@theillusionist1494 i can see that, for sure. I think the biggest thing is that the two are much closer than people ever really talked about. Cuz if bayo was that overpowered your statement about cloud in ultimate would not hold up at all. But I definitely see what you mean.

[@vjoe5389]

Agreed. While Bayonetta ruined high/top level Sm4sh, Cloud ruined mid/low level play and completely killed the doubles scene (while still being oppressive in both high and top level play).

[@Luigiofthegods]

"Monado Purge" was a goated 50/50 name because it was green in Xenoblade like Jump is in Smash

[@dysr]

Funnily enough, Australians generally pronounce z as “zed”. Zack probably pronounces his name that way for his primarily American audience.

[@NathanLouie]

At first I only skimmed the title and thought this was gonna be a standard reaction to the original video, but then the thumbnail made me confused until I realized. This is great.

[@kailor8764]

28:41 Interesting perspective on this idea. Back when I was at the age where I ate playdough and jumped around the school playground like I was Mario, I played Brawl. And you would think because of that mario part that I would gravitate to him, but weirdly, I instead gravitated towards Lucas. Now I have never heard of anything Mother/Earthbound related beforehand, but I was a big fan of something seemingly unrelated: Peanuts, and specifically Charlie Brown. I really related to him at that age because I felt like I found someone that goes through the similar troubles in life as I do. And then you have Lucas, who in Subspace, is actually one of the few characters to go through an arch. From someone who was too scared to save a person that saved him (Ness) into someone that’s willing to try and save a friend that simply stuck by his side (Pkmn trainer). That arch meant alot to me because I could see myself going through something similar. Of course, I could have dropped Lucas at any point between then and now in Ultimate, but I didn’t because that initial connection is still there and no other character perfectly replicated the way he plays in my eyes because of that connection (Also even back then I was kind of a hipster that liked picking things like characters that were mostly unpopular).

[@meganintenbro]

Major respect for having the right opinion on the Miis from smash 4. Just treating them as different characters was objectively the right option.

[@lunadachi4792]

Another Sm4sh video? Another excuse for me to talk about Bayo At 29:56 Sinji was either SDIing up but lazily, or down really hard. The stupid part is that he had to SDI down or he would die off the top, but SDI down would also just a combo easier to connect since Bayo has so much rage. If he went up and away, he would just rocket out of up b and die off the top cause of rage. Literally nothing to do there lmao 31:12 regarding this patch, it hit all the glaring problems of Bayo. Issue was that Bayos had discovered things to counteract the nerfs long before that patch. SDI heavily affects her combos? Switch to fair strings and fair 1-up air loops to make up the damage. DABK no longer combos? Use it as the best landing tool in the game instead. ABK has higher knockback growth, so a kill combo at high % is harder to find? Just fish for dtilt up air lol. All of this was already known by Bayos, but saw no use because it was just redundant when a standard Bayo combo worked just as well but easier.

[@keksidy]

I haven't watched Heeew in forever, really glad I could kinda watch them via someone kinda watching them

[@Herbert-west-re-animator]

This just shows how much more coney and mockrock add with their reactions than any of the other reactors here.

[@ShinxBOOM247]

34:36 well... that's mostly accurate, though there was one major exception: Mega Man. Almost all of his custom moves were fairly unique projectile options that deviated in drastic ways from their original counterparts (as a quick example, Fspecial either gave you Crash Bombs, the Ice Slasher (slow projectile the froze opponents), and the Danger Wrap (Explosive projectile the traveled in an upwards arc))

[@jeipi8737]

Outside of Palutena, Mega Man also got custom moves that were more than just a slight power/speed variation, actually changing a lot of his projectiles

[@KR_Kosmik]

I feel like smash 4 cloud and bayo are similar to 64 kirby and pikachu. Kirby and cloud were both amazing characters that were also insanely easy to use, but they had their flaws. Pikachu and bayo were both harder but had almost no flaws. Kirby and cloud both have bad and exploitable recoveries. Pikachu and bayo had the best recoveries in their games.

[@divinekingofunluck]

22:30 Monado Purge is a Monado Art from Xenoblade Chronicles, which the combo happens to somewhat resemble. Blame Monolith Soft for making it sound too full of itself. Otherwise great video Smash 4 will always have a special place in my heart

[@eliotmercier2065]

I love how he's so proud of being Canadian. Such a pleasant way to watch content from your favorite game with one of your fellow patriot!

[@oliviahughes3158]

"Smash4 is broken" videos honestly should go over every individual era of patches. From the early days of the infamous hoo-ha and shield insane back-air. To Shiek's 50/50 kill confirm. To New Mewtwo being freaking awesome

[@Beefman.0]

I can’t believe how jank smash 4 was, in the moment, it was alright and it made complete sense, but looking back it was absolutely bonkers.

[@MockRockTalk]

I think you're probably not alone here, Coney's fever dream comparison definitely struck a chord with me

[@thatguystandingbehindyou0_0]

just like ult

[@Evello37]

All right pros, you know what you have to do. React to this video. We can go deeper.

[@quantum6637]

The Canada flag + national anthem edit was gold. MockRockTalk is a great channel! Been following you for years :)

[@Moon-nk3co]

This is one of the most creative takes I’ve ever seen on a reaction ideas. More please!

[@Limit02]

34:30 palutena being primarily designed around customs also led to her have one of the blandest set of specials in the entire series with her default set (seriously? a counter AND a reflector that did no damage as separate moves?)

[@yxungblxxdrxbin]

29:45 it wasn't that he died because of his SDI, it was because he got hit by Witch Strike. Bayonetta's Witch Twist has a single hitbox at around her knees which comes out on frame 6, in Sm4sh it's frame 4, that sends you up to the rest of the move's hitboxes. After this hitbox comes out, there's a couple of frames where there are no hitboxes at all. If you happen to get the single hit of up-b only, your opponent will get sent straight up and it can kill you since that single hit has more knockback than the last hit of Witch Twist; you also cant DI nor SDI so it makes it even better. This tech is called Witch Strike, it's taken from the same move in Bayonetta 2 where it's essentially just a single hit Witch Twist. She can still do this in Ultimate. If you're good enough to get it consistently, you can kill characters at 30% after the hit but it is extremely difficult to get so no need to worry.

[@charlottearanea7507]

I think Smash 4's reputation is partially a victim of losing recency bias but lacking nostalgia bias. Brawl was talked about extremely poorly for a very long time after Smash 4's release, and I suspect the same will happen to Ultimate when Smash 6 comes out.

[@nocturn333]

I somewhat agree with you on the recency and nostalgia bias. Thing is Brawl also had more going for it outside of normal smash gameplay, while I don't think anyone praised Smash Tour. Smash 4 also came out on a failed console meaning there are less people nostalgic for it. I think the complaints about gameplay is overblown and a lot of it will be forgotten as time goes on but it won't be looked back at as fondly. I do agree the same will happen to Ultimate once the next smash is announced and people are tired of... whatever people complain about in Ultimate.

[@charlottearanea7507]

@@nocturn333 True about Brawl having more going on. I think casual and semi-competitive players will have decent nostalgia for the 3DS version at least, which did have cooler side modes like Smash Run and StreetSmash.

[@somethingfunny9402]

Bald Mockrock in the thumbnail is going to haunt me

[@heartnet40]

I want to say, as a Smash 4 Zelda main who loved every second of it, the reason I and a few Zelda mains I knew didn't name her Throw Confirm like other mains did is because we already had a broken kill move with a funny name that the entire player-based hated us for because "Ew why can a bottom-tier do that" and we didn't want to make it any worse lmao But it is true tho, Elevator (Zelda's Up-B out of shield) was the kind of absolute goat cheese that I'm sure made people quit the game. Total highway robbery and I loved it.

[@ReitheOffbeatOtaku]

In the words of a wise man... _"Smash 4 Is A Silly Game"_

[@adv78]

I love coney so much, definitely one of the more underrated "smash" KZbinrs (even if he doesn't focus on smash)

[@adv78]

@@WhiteKnuckleRide512 idk that much about twitch because I don't like streams so much but as of YT channels he isn't that big at all

[@charcoal6017]

I always felt Ganondorf was arguably better in Sm4sh but because of many jank reasons Like yeah Ganoncide killed you first and all but a lot of people always glossed over magnet hands, which if I recall correctly Ganondorf had some *nasty* magnet hands.

[@jerrymanjoe]

I main Ganondorf in Ultimate. He still has his magnet hands.

[@kittybaby6242]

I miss Smash 4 Ganon to...especially his up-air and u-smash I dunno, I just think Smash 4 Ganon was more fun than Ultimate Ganon

[@chezcak486]

I think a lot of the discourse around miis was due to their size (small brawler and gunner were honestly a hate crime before they got patched), and then their moveset got wrapped into the discourse too. I remember when this all happened it was less "the miis get to pick their moveset grrrr" and more "I don't wanna die to dthrow fair helikick at 20 bc this fast little fuck grabbed me from accros the stage at the speed of light." What enabled brawler cheese was the small version having the best initial dash and like 4th best air speed and full jump in the game. But more people thought that helikick (and also tbh grenade and faint jump were stupid too) was the problem, so both issues were fixed by the medium sized, 1111 ruleset.

[@Dante...]

Back when everybody had a pocket DK, Bowser, or Cloud.

[@perriwinkleiii5361]

I have to give you major props for the thumbnail. And this was a fun way to contribute your opinion on top of the other guys'

[@mybodyisready2594]

I would absolutely love to see more like this, this was great

[@sliced8669]

you and coney are an excellent combination

[@theotherjared9824]

I remember picking mii brawler to farm unlockables and actually started playing against my friends using my creation. I had the highest win rate by a wide margin, but no one believed me when I kept saying brawler is a hidden top tier.

[@eduardoleocadio2678]

Since you're apparently unaware of this, shulk's up throw to up air is called Monado Purge because it's an actual move he does with the monado. In fact, it uses the exact same green color of the smash jump art, and it involved Shulk jumping to "purge" the enemies' buff, except the smash version purged stocks lmao

[@MockRockTalk]

Oh no I'm aware. This changes nothing.

[@eduardoleocadio2678]

@@MockRockTalk All good! I was just commenting just in case! Thanks for the reply!

[@ariwl1]

29:10 oh I totally believe there's a character culture around Smash. The "____ for Smash" campaigns got absolutely wild. When you looked at the most frequently requested characters by fans, I personally thought so many of them would have made for lousy picks. But I generally kept my mouth shut during those as I didn't want to dunk on someone's favorite character and also I prefer to avoid dumb online fights. XD

[@Kiernimbus]

This was actually fascinating to watch! Loved the commentary and I laughed out loud at the "Little Zed" fumble xD

[@toxic_shr00m]

Everyone talks about ultimate Bowser, but nobody mentions that he was significantly buffed in sm4sh. Bowser even had amazing custom moves (namely dash slash and the fireball). Combine that with the *busted* badge system, and you could craft a Bowser that can easily kill at 30%. Casual Bowser was an absolute NIGHTMARE and I loved it, which is why I've been maining him since, even into ultimate.

[@oliviahughes3158]

I remember someone calling Lucas' Down-Throw Up-air combo the "Dead mom"

[@jeremystinson2124]

Watching you catch yourself saying “Zed” has to be one of the best things ever.

[@Point5_]

34:35 megaman also had unique custom moves. You even showed it later. Also miis but that's much more part of their design so i don't know if it counts

[@MockRockTalk]

I disagree, he's had a bit more work put into them than most characters but they're still coopting the same animations, etc. as his base moveset and are very recognizable. I wouldn't really consider the Miis to count either, no, again you can choose multiple movesets for them even if custom moves are disabled.

[@Point5_]

@@MockRockTalk fair enough. I guess they both are in a separate category. You got most characters who just have simple variants, megaman who has different assets (bombs, birds, bubbles, etc.), miis that have custom moves as part of their core identity and palu who has truly unique custom moves

[@RichardBlaziken]

Smash 4 was definitely broken, but I have a soft spot for it as well, given that it was also my first time getting into the more competitive side of Smash. I had a lot of fun and have many fond memories, but Ultimate's engine is so wildly different that I literally can't go back to 4 because I literally don't remember how to play my main in Smash 4 - Greninja - anymore, despite doing that for 5000 hours over the course of many years, because I play Greninja so much differently in Ultimate. I'm sure I could get that muscle memory back if I wanted to, but... well, I don't lol. Still, I'm really thankful that Smash 4 walked so that Ultimate could run, and while it was full of cheese, it was an endearing kind of cheese that you can laugh about in hindsight.

[@Imstillhangintherethankgod]

This is taking reaction content to a whole new level

[@alexshafer7374]

Tbh this is more interesting than any of the regular reactions to the video in a vacuum. You get the opinion and the second opinion at the same time.

[@CONEYZZ]

GREAT MOVIE

[@MockRockTalk]

GREAT MOVIES

[@Magic_Ice]

Monado Purge is one of Shulk’s Monado Arts in his game. It makes sense that one of his combos would be named that.

[@DrPumpkinz]

Man, I forgot how funny Little Mac haymaking to his death was.

[@petrarcheleven8816]

Smash 4 will always be special to me for the convention tournaments I played in, not specifically Smash focused but knowing I had the crowd cheering for me one year because I picked Falcon in 2015 or placing Top 16 as Link in 2018, Smash 4 holds a special place in my heart for those reasons. Also I physically tensed up hearing "Hoo hah".

[@hurricane_slash]

React content is like an onion, it has layers

[@technowolf5746]

Smash 4 is indeed a game

[@kaokano]

Manado purge was a name of one of the monado arts in Xenoblade, so that's probably where that came from.

[@Mars-pw4iw]

21:38 Oh god I'm crying, that was such a good edit 😂

[@claudevonrunningman]

I’ve been playing Smash 3Ds since Christmas of 2014, and I only just got the last custom move about a month ago. You have no idea how many hours of Smash Run that was.

[@thedorklord1029]

I had to reread the title before I got the premise. This is stupid I love it.

[@yobin3711]

The Monado Purge is named after a Monado art from Xenoblade Chronicles. There's not much correlation between the art and the combo beyond the fact that Shulk jumps given that the art is a projectile.

[@Cadesworth]

I spent a good two minutes trying to understand this thumbnail help Entertaining video as always!

[@mikeychrisanthus9948]

I have an interesting personal experience with this game, because I was young enough at the time where I really just enjoyed it with family members, I wasn’t on the internet and stuff so I never even knew custom moves or dlc were even a thing until I started watching KZbin in around 2016. I played little Mac most of the time simply because I loved punch out wii a lot. When ultimate was announced and when it came out, I was excited to the point where I said to myself that I really wanted to be good at the game. I practiced a lot of fighting level 9 cpus mainly as link in smash 4, and then when I played ultimate, I just carried that sort of determination over. Flash forward to the last few years where I still keep smash as a side hobby, but I’ve now more so appreciated the competitive aspect of the games, and seeing videos reflecting the old games which I never experienced competitively is wild. That really does make me appreciate how well the devs made the games easy to learn but hard to master, and boy is it a blast when mastered. I now notice that this comment is less about smash 4, but whatever, a comment to promote the video to others.

[@theboi5584]

This video reminded me of how much I love watching Coney and Hbox lol Very entertaining video :)

[@JacobBush16]

Wish I could like this 50x so you’ll do another one like this. Great video.

[@kittybaby6242]

We need more reaction vids like this. Also you plannin on reactin to Smash players reacting to the other Smash is broken vids?

[@DoMorrMusic]

so naturally someone will end up reacting to you reacting to others reacting to “Smash 4 Is Broken”

[@crablord8499]

I just played Sm4sh for the extra game modes because those were actually fun. I never really started playing competitively until Ultimate so I didn’t care how balanced the game was, I just wanted to play smash run all day.

[@waffleman8053]

Smash 4 I'd honestly one of my favorite smash games, it threw so much stuff at the wall and not a lot of it stuck, but I can't help but love how much it tried.

[@PuppetMasterIX]

Super Smash Con 2019 really demonstrated how most of its top players turned on it after Ultimate. Many of its best players who entered ended up DQing, such as Void, Nairo, and even MkLeo (the latter straight up tweeted "Smash4 is so bad lol" and didn't even bother playing a set in bracket). While the first three Smash titles still have their individual charm and quirks, Smash 4 just kinda felt obsolete after Ultimate, since it was basically a messy trial run for it.

[@ShallBePurified]

22:30 Monado Purge is an art Shulk can use in Xenoblade. It's a reference that also sounds cool as a kill confirm.

[@Deelo51]

Great video concept, I really enjoyed it

[@Myst1c_OW]

23:17 i dont think anyone has, or ever will complain about ultimate being way too offense based... mostly because it isnt and steve, min min, olimar, snake, samus, sonic, and many other campy characters are high tiers in this game, some climbing to top tier as the meta progresses *looking at steve*

[@Baby_999]

Now someone needs to react to him reacting to someone else reacting to heeews video

[@AlexDown1]

I appreciate the input, it actually ads quite a bit

[@goreobsessed2308]

Alpharad deluxe is where his smash content is these days

[@LARAUJO_0]

The thumbnail and 21:37 are hilarious

[@shiffpup2529]

Alright, after seeing you react to Coney, now I need to see you react to Coney's most controversial tier list (and probably THE most controversial) Smash Ultimate characters ranked by how many teeth they have

[@MoonGhostDoodles]

The Mii bit with CONEY lowkey triggered me lol I think Miis should have been handled like they were in Ultimate for Smash 4 tournaments. Maybe even have them be regular sized if they were so worried about small Mii Brawler running rampant. But iirc there were a couple counterpicks for it. I also think that even if it had a lot of cheese, Smash 4 I wouldn't say was the worse of the previous titles. Hitstun that lasts a year in 64, anyone?

[@TheTrueBrawler]

Compound the high hitstun on top of the fact that DI wasn't a thing in Smash 64 and you have a game where all of the good characters have playstyles which somewhat emulates Bayonetta.

[@NeichoKijimura]

I really like the 'consistency' aspect of MockRockTalk, I now have more of my favorite Smash KZbinr to watch.

[@sailing4drumming]

This is some of your funniest editing! I died when that Canadian flag showed up 😂

[@joshuahong8255]

Jigglypuff’s wakie wakie may have been awful, but it’s nothing compared to the crime that is spinphony

[@antant6217]

echoes would've been a neat way to repurpose customs with some balancing

[@greenfroggy333]

The whole little zed/zee thing cracked me up

[@CalvinOwenRushford]

Yo, this thumbnail is INCREDIBLE

[@turt1eback576]

this is great, but guitar shred reveal when?

[@victorhaydes9065]

Something I noticed in the Mii Brawler section was that I kept hearing about the choice of 9 specials instead of 12. Did one of the special slots have a unanimously agreed upon best special? Was it Feint Jump?

[@ShibuNub3305]

It was 100% feint jump, foot flurry was awful and head-on assault was ok but the movement feint jump gave you was too good to pass up

[@ricardoludwig4787]

In retrospect, having smash 4 as my introductory competitive game is probably why I like kusoge so much now, because while I loved that mess and still think that if bayo and cloud were banned the game could be a very fun side game, wow it was cursed

[@richardszoghy1907]

AT 22:25 I HAD NO IDEA THIS WAS SMASH RELATED HOLY SHIT. I was just shocked, like when I (someone who played smash all his childhood) realised the phrase WOMBO COMBO is from Meelee esports