Reacting to the Perfect Mario 3 Speedrun (100% TAS)

[@dbeast03]

The autoscrollers in this TAS are a perfect reminder that a high level TAS with a bunch of autoscrollers basically becomes half perfection and half perfect shit posting.

[@Dr_Mel]

Only Mitch can finish a 1 hour TAS in 40 minutes.

[@Javier-vi6db]

Lol

[@endersblade]

That's because he skips the stuff we want to see and rewinds the crap we don't

[@JgHaverty]

​@@endersblade*woosh*

[@kingofcrap4414]

So true, he's a real one for that.

[@GolfcuBebe]

He's a speedrunner after all

[@Felipera_]

People who have never played the game: That's so insane People who have played the game a lot: That's so insane Casual speedrunners: That's so insane Multi World Record Holder: That's so insane Gotta love TAS

[@fastyfoxy]

😭😭

[@AnteGV1950]

what does tas stand for?

[@Felipera_]

@@AnteGV1950 tool assisted Speedrun/super play. It's a run made with emulator tools, to simulate what a god would be able to do with a controller in hand. Everything is theoretically possible, but not for a human, while it's not "real" gameplay, it involves a different skillset, more about knowing the inner workings of a game and programming a set of inputs that will produce interesting results.

[@PeeEssPee]

Person who has 100% on every Mario game and has a world record on 6 of the games: That’s so insane

[@AnteGV1950]

@@Felipera_ thanks...so computer playing video games!!!

[@Mister_Clean]

Seeing the Hammer Brothers do exactly what they're supposed to (lining up to be systematically destroyed) is quite satisfying

[@RichConnerGMN]

homophobia is cringe

[@abra_escaped]

​​@@RichConnerGMN -I mean, yeah, but why say that here of all places?- Ohh their pfp

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

​@@RichConnerGMN nah, such thing is very subjective

[@customsongmaker]

​@@RichConnerGMN heterosexual reproduction is the source of all human life

[@themilkstar]

the final solution

[@jimmyrobinson1000]

That world 1-4 may just be the sickest thing I've ever seen in SMB history.

[@MC-wh3xm]

TAS is such a legend

[@TompaA]

Thanks!

[@sploshsploosh]

@BocoCorwinwhat does this mean

[@MC-wh3xm]

@@sploshsploosh it means it's raining feces

[@Imozart0341I]

That shit was straight cuckoo

[@rtyuik7]

5:38 - "its called P-Speed because thats how fast you run to the bathroom when you need to pee" ...i love TwitchChat sometimes xD

[@yasu4303]

P stands for momentum. In physics p=mv. Can add that to the 25 things we didn't know about Mario video 😅

[@XxCrystalPhoenix]

"YOINK!" is an onomotopaeia that stems from 1940s cartoons. It's the sound effect made in many classic cartoons. It was especially used in Hanna-Barberra cartoons such as The Flintstones and The Jetsons. It was the sound effect used when something was snatched up or moved quickly. As far as I know, the earliest use of "yoink" as a verb was in the Simpsons, often when a character would sheepishly yank something out of the hands of someone else. They would say "yoink" in place of the sound effect.

[@zidaryn]

You don't know how much enjoyment I got from your reaction to the TAS skipping the level at 27:01

[@MC-wh3xm]

MITch makes a lot of excuses. TAS doesn't make any excuses, he just breaks world record after world record. Haters gon hate

[@Tonbizzle]

I love the ridiculous bull that TAS is allowed to pull off due to how it's done. I just feel like any speedrunner should just look at chat and say "If you ever ask me to do this, I will ban you". Good times, great explanations!

[@shooby9496]

This blows my mind even as a casual SMB3 player. Can't imagine being an active speedrunner watching it. It'd be like toiling every day for months and finally benching 400 pounds only to have an android stroll in with an arrogant gait, one-arm-curl 500 pounds 10 times and then backflip out the door.

[@SuzakuX]

TAS isn't done by robots, though. It's done by humans using tools to play the game frame-perfect. Also how a lot of speedrunning starts are developed.

[@squidward577]

What an analogy

[@spimbles]

i mean, not really. people dont compete against TAS, its just to see how far games can be pushed.

[@Meurth]

@@SuzakuX It's a program aka bot playing the game. No one said it's programmed by a robot, obviously it's programmed by a human.

[@AMaplestoryFan]

​@@Meurth that's the same as saying when you listen to music on your phone you're not listening to a person singing, but a machine singing. it's technically true, but not a very good way to look at it

[@Sonicstillpoint83]

Seeing what the TAS is capable that actually makes the human execution that much more impressive. The understanding of every frame of every mechanic is Incredible.

[@jessemiller2335]

i remember watching TASes as a kid, never knew what TAS meant but didn’t care, didn’t know what it was, never paid attention to the explanations if there were any. my dumb kid brain really thought these tricks were being done by humans in real time

[@Oakshield2]

I love the weird shit they do during the autoscrollers.

[@NoriMori1992]

Finished watching Summoning Salt's video about this category yesterday, then this showed up in my feed. Perfect ❤

[@pr3st00]

I'm completely addicted to Summoning Salt's Channel..

[@MarioFanGamer659]

Shutter speed reminds me of Speed Booster quickcharge in Super Metroid as despite the different executions, it's ultimately the same idea for both of them: Checks to build up P-Speed and Speed Booster only happens on certain frames while you can take it slower between the frames.

[@isocle]

*stutter speed

[@JaggerG]

In SM, it only checks on 4 frames. I’m not sure about SMB3, but I get the impression it’s a bit more complicated.

[@Huktonnfonix]

I have to admit, the exasperation and annoyance you showed at what's impossible for RTA runners was way more funny to me than it should have been. Now you know how us mortals feel when we watch your speed runs lol.

[@Huktonnfonix]

I do really enjoy these types of videos where people explain the TAS strategies, and why real runs have to differ. It always blows my mind just how much work speed runners put into their strategies, and perfecting certain things just so save a few frames here and there.

[@kuniosolis]

Exactly my thoughts hahahaha, its funny how annoyed and somewhat even jealous Mitch is when comparing his skill.

[@Fingolfin3423]

Wow, that 1-4 is WILD.

[@krisfrederick5001]

I wonder if Shigeru Miyamoto has seen these...and just is completely mind blown 🧠💥

[@customsongmaker]

"ROR, I brainwashed the children to play this game for 30 years"

[@pcnetworx1]

At Shigeru's 100th birthday celebration he will grab an old, special NES controller made of solid gold and casually pull off a SMB3 speedrun that will blow away TASbot.

[@MC-wh3xm]

@@pcnetworx1 then say "gg nubs" and pass away straight to heaven

[@ohiorushbaby]

19:59 -- Mitch lives the airship, no cap. Ain't nobody got time for dat. 😂

[@TompaA]

You starting statement isn't really 100% accurate: Every 8th frame the check for your P-Meter is done. If the speed is 40 or more and you are on the ground, an arrow will build up on your P-Meter, then after 8 frames it will check again. During those frames inbetween, it's indeed possible to decrease your speed a bit and then build it up again. Optimally, this is the speed you'll have for each of those 8 frames: 40, 38, 36, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40. Making it that you can decrease your distance with up to 21 subpixes (1 pixel + 5 subpixels) for each P-Meter arrow. If you have P-speed, you can only corner boost if you duck. The example at the end of 1-1 was not a corner boost at all. You can only save max 1 pixel from such boost, but most of the time we have to delay a bit to do it, making it not worth it for a lot of the boosts in the game. Same comes with the corner clips we do through blocks. While it does save 2 pixels without having to slow down, Mario isn't always lined up correctly to do it. We often slow down briefly to get such clips, though in many cases we have to slow down more than it saves. Anyway: Continue :D

[@gameguysd]

That's super interesting. I remember seeing a while back that there was a "better" method to stutterstep that was found; do you know what was originally thought to be going on behind the scenes?

[@TompaA]

@@gameguysd Ever since the old TAS started using stutter steps, that's the only method I can recall in general :/

[@bikkear]

Could you put a link to the tas in your description maybe? Think that would be neat if people want to go give that a watch/like/comment too

[@justinkarnes3276]

40:01 - Comedy Gold

[@NileR]

Just accidentally clipped into the empty room in the castle for the first time. Thankfully after seeing the run😂

[@PhuongTran-hm4dy]

that stutter step tutorial in the end is so helpful. Thanks a lot, Mitch!

[@TheArchitectOfDreams]

A legend watching a video by two TASing legends.

[@Purin1023]

My man looks like he's setting up a credits warp with all the shenanigans going on in 3-6 lol

[@matearonmiskolczi1995]

29:22 bro that noise made me laugh for my entire day 😂😂😂

[@camegratte5176]

3:15 Si-ck sh-it ! 🤣

[@51mmz0rz4]

So glad you made this into a KZbin vid!! I was bummed I had to bail 10 minutes into the stream!

[@fieldapple4428]

35:30 “Hey guys look no hands!”

[@wolfguy423]

that last stutter step part made me laugh pretty damn hard. 🤣

[@lbdjthethird1240]

Boy there was some seriously heavy flexing going on in world 3 with the turtle shells, bouncing the fireball, and the backwards fireball. DAMN!!!

[@MeypleMusic]

14:08 the start of the goofiest autoscroller 😂

[@joshwekony8861]

7:27 when dash puts the tack on the teachers chair

[@feathdev000]

20:21 That wall jump looked straight out of New Super Mario Bros it was so clean!

[@Jimbobob5536]

Honestly, the nonsense of the auto-scrollers is probably what I like most from the TAS.

[@Zalis116]

15:04 - RIP so many SpikeVegetas.

[@SimilakChild]

3:21 I did something weird in Mario 1 when I was a kid, I jumped on a turtle shell on the staircase at the end but it kept stopping and I repeatedly jumped on it and got over 99 lives until the stage time ran out

[@dawnsbuneary]

Yeah, the movements seen in the TAS speedrun could NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS be performed by even the person with the best reflexes in Earth's history.

[@A.S.O.R.U]

10:48 This look encapsulates "I'm Just human" 🌚

[@MC-wh3xm]

TAS is just the ultimate gamer, and they don't even seek any fame for it

[@holdupits420]

One time I did a run faster than the tas but my recording hard river fried

[@jodysgamingchannel9480]

2:27 "Unfortunately for RTA runners that's not anything that's going to help." This is going to be clip quoted in the Summoning Salt explanation video of how these tricks were incorporated into the meta....

[@williamlafond1319]

That's how you see Mario is a psycopath, he does'nt even need to kill stuff but he does anyway, and sometimes he even bends physics to do it. Crazy Wahoo

[@walterw8223]

Plot twist. It's actually Matt Turk playing.

[@theadamblock]

Oh my goodness those autoscroller levels were pure chaos

[@nugboy420]

13:57 as he shot the fireball I looked to Mitch’s face cuz I knew it was goin for the lakitu. I was not disappointed. Even after pausing to make a comment about it, they replay it so i feel good about posting this being an amazing trick. I love some of the flashy shit going on in this tas. 1-4 was a prime time example

[@nugboy420]

Also the face. Just a little smirk.

[@nugboy420]

Ok just starting an in in awe thread here. 14:06 holy shit I thought 1-4 was cool. Even Mitch has to stop talking due to losing his train of thought. I have never seen the green donut. Tho. Prolly gonna repost this one or similar just to learn about the green donut.

[@nugboy420]

Ok tas be watching some Mario maker 2 lmao. 14:44 all them shell jumps. For no reason.

[@nugboy420]

No that WHAT HE SHOT BACKWARDS WAS MY RESPONSe.

[@krisfrederick5001]

When Mitch is silenced...it's beyond intense. 👀

[@Kuli24000]

28:34 wait what? I didn't think you needed a p-wing to get up there. I never used one.

[@obscurity3027]

Mitch’s reaction to the TAS is just like my reactions to Mitch’s RTA runs.

[@customsongmaker]

Just play again after you win, your entire inventory is full of P-wings

[@Ichigo_Tensa]

23:45 mario clips through a box while in mid air... just flys right through it 🧐

[@nugboy420]

Ok I never understood any fire kills in this game. How many fireballs count as a hit? And what about bouncing on him at the end with boom boom here @17:42 for a reference?

[@TompaA]

You need five fireballs to kill a Boom Boom. Stomping has, in a way, it's own HP counter and can't be combined with the fireballs to do more damage. So either 5 balls, or 3 stomps. We usually stomp in order to be close to him so that the final ball hits as early as possible.

[@nugboy420]

@@TompaA damn. So weird how every game has its own boss/mini boss fireball physics. I grew up playing smb1-3 til 7or 8 years, then world after getting my snes in 95? always felt like I had seen (and maybe just in remakes or other games but relating it to this game…) fireballs reaching a certain point to cause ONE of the three hits you would need to stomp on. And now I can’t tell if it is just going be shit I have seen in Mario maker or something but since I am not super into that game it projected some game mechanics back in to my old faves lmao. Sorry if I read this even more.

[@Darxide23]

The word "yoink" meaning to grab, snatch, or steal was invented by George Meyer, a writer for the Simpsons. Homer first used the word in this context.

[@kapikapisun]

That 72 one up grab played a different sound. Interesting

[@TompaA]

Indeed. It's something that Mitch always try to do in 1-4 as well. You need to flip your tail a few frames after obtaining the 1up.

[@winterishopeless]

i laughed so hard at the end of the video! that was so funny, i wish i caught it on stream

[@LordTom77]

Great video, Mitch, fun to see the RTA community's response and remember some of fun/ridiculous TAS antics

[@Loupmtf]

The Mario Wiki site says the P Wing is Paratroopa Wing. It also states that the P-Meter is Power Meter.

[@Linkister]

Theres a reason why it has been rerecorded 88 thousand times lmao, hammer bros are insane

[@NihilistSolitude]

With tetris rolling method maybe you can incorporate that tech to stutter step

[@jpetersongaming]

Human TAS watching AI TAS... on the next episode of... Mario bros 3

[@justinlami9573]

I thought they determined that the off-screen wand grab actually was slower if you take the entire length of the fall afterward into account???

[@TompaA]

If you fail the wand grab and grab it later, so that Mario won't screen wrap and actually fall, then you'll indeed lose time. But if it's done the way in the TAS it's always faster.

[@gnarlymcgnarlson6952]

It’s amazing how you have completely dissected this game.

[@JoeDan54]

35:25 I knew this was fake because there's no coke or pizza

[@Damariobros]

I wonder if something could be done similar to Tetris hyper tapping to achieve a stutter step, like, strike the controller somehow with a specific grip to get the d-pad to go from right to left for one frame 🤔

[@TompaA]

No, that won't help in any way.

[@NVMDSTEvil]

Is there a category for killing all killable enemies?

[@anon8007]

I actually had always assumed the block clipping was just for show. Great explanation!

[@timothyapplegate2881]

I like when Mitch sounds like Dash's teacher from The Incredibles.

[@shinigamimiroku3723]

"Coincidence? I think NOT!"

[@CidZero]

"The P doesn't stand for p*nis." I almost choked omg. 😂

[@drgdfhg]

18:55 I believe you gotta have really good refflexes for that, but it is possible.

[@johneygd]

‘I never gonna play supermariobrothers 3 again’ best comment ever,hahaaa🤣🤣🤣

[@jjera9941]

0:54 thank you for telling me that because i was going to do a tas on super mario bros 3

[@rtg_onefourtwoeightfiveseven]

As I always say, it's not a proper TAS unless you show off during the autoscrollers.

[@MC-wh3xm]

Mitch sure does make a lot of excuses. TAS never makes excuses, he just breaks world record after world record.

[@timp949]

Is there a video covering the human theory tas???

[@NinjaNezumi]

28:30 I make it up there without the P-Wing. I think I bounce off a shell dude to do it. But it always takes me a couple tries. I'm no speed runner, in fact I'm an anti speed runner, but I do make it up that shaft. Maybe that's the difference, I do spend a lot of time attempting that.

[@TompaA]

What he meant is that the exact route we do in the TAS can't be done without the Wing. Yes, you can easily fly up there if you build up the speed and start flying just below the shaft, where the koopa is. But you won't be able to make it from the point where we first jumped.

[@NinjaNezumi]

@@TompaA XD oh good

[@didiok7]

There is a tas for most hammer brothers movement?

[@joeshittheragman6252]

"P stands for pp" lmfao

[@mkartbox]

When you give your joy-con to your big bro:

[@funkybob7772]

I wonder if the latest advances in nes tetris playstyle could transfer to SMB3 in some way, namely the _roll..._

[@funkybob7772]

they pull of ~30 hertz inputs all the time

[@IceBreakei]

1-4 u can tell the TAS'er got so bored they decided to just do crazy things

[@clinton6087]

You need a category where you're allowed to use the games you need to get constant P speed

[@silverwar360]

very cool. is there a full stream / unedited footage of this aswell?

[@June28July]

no hammer suit for this TAS?

[@TompaA]

Slower for the TAS, for both this and Warpless categories.

[@stevencarlson5348]

This was an awesome video. Thanks Mitch!

[@tolius9997]

Is there some speedrun where everything needs to be collected? All houses, all cards, all secret anchor stages?

[@TompaA]

It's actually impossible to get all mushroom houses and spade minigames. You need to use a hammer in W2, two in W3 and one in W4, but you only got two total up to that point. It's one of the reasons why 100% more turned into "All Levels" instead. There is a separate category for All White Mushroom Houses as well as All Big ? Blocks, the ones containing the special suits like Frog, Tanooki and the Hammer Suit. But no category that combines them all.

[@killwillv2610]

Probably my favorite TAS.

[@nugboy420]

What is this green donut block in 3-6 around 14:10?

[@yasuosyndromee1136]

Love the breakdown. More breakdown videos pls

[@esrl447-i6j]

Lol. I didn't realize the TAS was that much different. Also, congrats on your new record.

[@TheFredster32]

Can you do a whole video that explains TAS stutter stepping? Does the P meter just not go down while he is in the air?

[@TompaA]

I've thought about making a detailed movement mechanics video for many years, but I never get around to do it... I'll explain it as best as I can do and will gladly answer any further questions! There is a memory address that will check if Mario's speed is at least 40 (The amount of subpixels you move every frame) and if he is on the ground. When this occur, one arrow will be added to the P-Meter. After 8 frames, it will do another check, if valid, you'll build up another arrow and so on. During the 8 frames timer, you are able to decrease your speed and then build it up again before the timer hits 0. If you are moving to the right and then around for 1 frame, then you'll drop your speed from 40 to 38, hold left another frame to drop to 36, 34, 32 etc. If you press neither left nor right, you'll drop by just 1 speed value. You cannot drop too much speed however, as you also need some frame to build it up again.The most optimal stutter step is the following: Speed: 40, 38, 36, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40 (left, left, nothing, right, right, right, right, right) Timer: 00, 07, 06, 05, 04, 03, 02, 01, 00 In this example, we have shortened the distance by 21 subpixels, which translated into 1 pixel and 5 subpixels. There is also an acceleration frame rule to keep in mind, which will stop Mario from accelerating every 8th frame, you will also not lose any speed by releasing left/right. This makes it so that we have to modify when to accelerate to be able to hit the speed of 40, which results in a drop of subpixels we can shorten the distance with. If we run on flat ground, we can shorten the distance by about 7½ pixels for the full P-Meter. When the P-Meter timer hits 0, and you aren't on the ground or have a speed that's less than 40, you'll drop one arrow. If it was your only arrow, the timer instantly resets to 0 and you can quickly try to build up the P-Meter again. If you have more arrows, you'll lose one arrow and the timer will be set to 24 instead. You have now additional time to decrease your speed further, or to stay in midair before you need to land on the ground. This is the timer that can be used in RTA by doing small turnbacks in midair before you land. As sometimes this P-Meter drop will happen twice in midair, for a totalt of 48 arrows, giving you even more of a time. Once the P-Meter is filled up, there will no longer be a check every 8th frame for the arrows and you can freely jump in midair. However, if you do land on the ground with a speed of less than 40, then a 16 frame timer will start ticking down. If you haven't either jumped or hit speed 40 again at that point, then you'll lose an arrow and the 24 frame timer will start. If you jump while the speed is below 40 and also land before building up the speed, you'll also lose an arrow. Additionally, when you jump, there is a flight timer that will start ticking down for 256 frames. If you don't have the Leaf, this timer will reset once you land on the ground with speed 40 or more. It will not drop down if you land on enemies however, as you are still staying in midair. If you jump on too many enemies in arow, the timer will hit 0 and your complete P-Meter will go down to 0, not just one arrow. Also, if you jump the very first frame you land on the ground, the game also counts you as being in midar. This has some applications you can do in runs as well. You have might have seen in speedruns that runners often jump into pipes before entering, rubbing them a bit. This often occurs at a pipe like at 23:15. When Mario enters like that, the "ground check" never occurs, which keeps the P-Meter into the next area. After one frame, the ground check comes, your speed is less than 40 so the 16 frame timer starts ticking down. If you jump before the timer hits 0, you can avoid the P-Meter dropping down. This is why you see runners always jumping out of pipes. If you do not jump into the pipe when entering, and instead just runs into it, once the ground check happens when you get out of the pipe, you'll instead instantly drop one P-Meter arrow and the 24f timer starts instead. As it will take a long time to build up speed again, you'll be forced to lose two arrows from the timers. This can be prevented if you manage to jump on the very first frame you get out of the pipe, so in ether case, runners still want to jump out of the pipe. Anyway, sorry for wall of text :D. I tried to explain most things regarding how the P-Meter works.

[@MitchPiotrowski]

I came across this vid without looking at who you were. When you shouted "HEY MITCH" it honestly scared me since that's my name XD.

[@gamindanny2773]

3:16 what the hell is this dark magic????

[@fat277]

Can you credit the creater and add the video in the description

[@conaldeugenepeterson2147]

No lie that tax metaphor really blew my mind.

[@samlay9588]

I love that even Mitch watching the autoscroller tricks is like :o =) :O

[@knuthansen8524]

Why not doimg teh offscreen wand grap and tahn doimg teh sub pixel manip at teh beginning of 7-1? Should be faster tahn 4 seconds right?

[@damin9913]

20:18 he said WTF🤣

[@RompeReal]

32:49 thumbnail moment

[@LeetTron5000]

uhhh, thats the nonly way to be 6-5 to my recollection. Im almost certain you can make it up there with regular as its how i beat it growing up. Yup just downloaded the rom and did it......... like wth, you guys all collectively believe its not possible without a wing????

[@TompaA]

What he mean is that the route the TAS does can't really be done without the Wing, because of the flight timer that starts as soon as you jump. Obviously, if you build up the P-Meter later and do a later jump, you can get up with a leaf.

[@LeetTron5000]

@@TompaA he said no matter where you jump you cant make it. But thats probably what he was trying to say.