REACTION to Eurovision 2023 Televote Results

[@punaviinihaarukka]

The horror on Matt's face after Finland gets its points and the realization that war is coming :D

[@suppohkram]

9:08 While people were celebrating Finland's massive televote, you were predicting the future. While I was so ecstatic and cheering along as well, I appreciate the grounded take 😅

[@peterjohn5544]

Seeing Slovenia at 21 broke my heart. And Spain last in the televote?! Fuck.

[@charmedx3219]

Slovenia I really appreciated. Spain not so much

[@anusia353]

I voted for them

[@VaMage]

Expected.

[@jimskeuh]

spain was godawful well deserved last place

[@Grettss]

@@charmedx3219same, i gave them one vote

[@sp9459]

As a German I just want us to take part in the semis 😭

[@intensemint7800]

I'm so sorry, I voted for you tonight! 😔

[@ivanmacgar6447]

As a Spaniard I feel glad we get directly to the final, even if I feel utterly miserable when the voting comes up. If we had to go through the semifinal route, we would only qualify once or twice every 10 years lmao and same applies to you, the UK and France

[@sannev8407]

Actually I honestly think patty curdy or Alice Russo would have done better. Alice song is jury friendly, and patty curdy is so eurovision so she would have got televote.

[@annikabengtsson3552]

❤

[@Adrian-S.]

very good idea!

[@MojoJonesnerd]

Balance is restored. It's us and Germany holding hands at the back of the bus again 😂

[@sp9459]

You really made me feel better 😅❤️

[@Werderina]

We shouldn’t care! ❤ to 🇬🇧

[@pn29-d6u]

ikr, we just had the courage to go up to the cool guys at the front for a bit, then we got stage fright and ran back to our comfort blankets, plus germany just missed our company lol but in all seriousness what on earth do germany need to do to get a good result? the running order even favoured them ffs, i wouldn't be surprised if they just did an italy and rage quit never to be seen again for 20 years.

[@Werderina]

@@pn29-d6u this is exactly the scenario I wish for! Without us participating… I would even consider to watch Eurovision again (even if the future winners might already been determined: Sweden…. Sweden…. and - maybe - Sweden! 😂

[@pn29-d6u]

@@Werderina im a massive fan of your eurovision songs over the years (ein bißchen frieden, für alle, satellite, etc etc), but your recent songs have just simply been lacklustre and never going to get any points from anyone. blood and glitter was different. chris smashed the vocals, and it was a rock song going 21st out of 26 - so how do you only get 15 points from the public? genuine question - do people care about eurovision in germany? because i know they were crazy about it during the time when lena won, and that gradually wore off, but are these bad results just making germans lose interest rapidly? or is there still excitement for the contest as a whole?

[@SuperTay1234]

Shattered for Finland. That performance owns my soul 💚

[@intensemint7800]

Cha cha cha will always be on my playlist and I'm hoping we'll see a tour or at least several gigs from Käärijä after this 💚🖤🐛 I'm planning on going. And I still want that Käärijä shirt once they come available again. So happy he did win the public vote, my Green King 💚

[@martine7253]

So sorry for Germany!

[@ThatsMyLimetea]

Thank you, it was very demonic.

[@tovekauppi1616]

They really didn’t deserve to be last. They were in my personal top 10 this year.

[@Matt-xr4ke]

This had to be one of the most devastating results to date, so many fell short and Finland didnt even win

[@candygilsantiago8762]

Absolutely agree 🙄

[@notna6503]

Good, meme songs should not win

[@vol.145]

​@@notna6503 it's not a meme song...

[@Merecir]

@@vol.145 It is a really, really good joke song. Just like Lordi was a really, really good joke song.

[@rickliang2709]

I just read the breakdown of public vote. Sweden got 12 pts from no country at all whilst Finland got 12 pts from 18 countries. Loreen has performed well and I personally have nothing against her. But it seems the jury vote is AGAIN against the public's will. Back to old issue. Should the winner be solely decided by the public or with a small group of so-called professional juries manipulating 50% of the result?

[@kennet7837]

Juries are needed, but I think there should be a second round of voting where televoters only choose between the top 2.

[@rickliang2709]

I have considered your idea at some point. But if juries are needed because of the concern of public vote abuse, then it could happen too in the second round. We have read many news reports about people voting in parliamentary elections not even knowing whom they have voted. These circumstances always happen in any elections but we never hear those people's votes are invalid or those random voters need another voting professional to regulate. Moreover, there were reports about last year's (2022) jury abnormal voting issues among some participating countries. It seems that jury votes are much easier to be abused because of the small number of juries. My point of view is: Even random voters might vote without any reasons, but it's still the voter's choice no matter what and his/her choice should be respected. I think ESC should either solely let the professionals deliver their professionalism and make the decision and they take up all the responsibilities, consequences or criticism. Or the other way round, let people choose decide who should be the winner. Either one, not both. Because it's really cruel to any performers who see the light of glory, real close(!) and then being disapproved by just a small group of juries. No performers deserve these treatments and I can feel for Käärijä.

[@tosvus]

@@rickliang2709 it's not like juries are immune to cheating. 6 countries caught last year..

[@rickliang2709]

@@tosvus yes, that's what i read just today. A bit shocked.

[@lennartandersson75]

@@rickliang2709 So that was why Finland's televoters gave zero points to Sweden. The only country! It shows that you vote for the song you think was the best, doesn't it?

[@allkindsofgroove]

My favorite song came last place...😂 this doesn't happen very often, if ever. Still love you, Lord of the Lost and Germany❤! I know I voted for you and many-many others did! Keep on keeping on!

[@wldnemesis]

Germany's lead singer's disappointed reaction to his score was stamped all over his face! So sad for him

[@lighthouse620]

Thank you for all that you do Matt

[@DAS.AMA.]

Thank you Matt and the all team for the season content you gave us from the beginning. Ive been away from the comments because poeple are being a bit too toxic for me and I try to stay away from it, but I just want to say that I loved that both my top 2 were the top 2 in the final. I wish people were less toxic not matter what you think, hating dont get them anywhere, but still I think was a great show and ESCEunited again was my fav Eurovision channel

[@tosvus]

Thanks for the reaction! Not sure what Norway needs to do to get liked by the jury - but glad the people like our entries!

[@kajanaland25]

Well - we Finns loved you! I cast my votes for Norway. As A Finn I know for sure how you feel. 😉

[@rickliang2709]

Just by mathematics, satisfying 5 jurors (5 jurors per country) Norway will likely get 12pts in jury vote. To get 12pts in tele vote, you have to get thousands or even tens of thousands public votes. Which side is easier? 😂😂

[@tosvus]

@@kajanaland25 I'm glad you got 12 from Norway this year!!

[@tosvus]

@@rickliang2709 lol

[@mariiabbbb]

Seems like her her jury show wasn’t great. That’s probably why jury didn’t give her many points. she was great in the final show, and the televote rewarded her

[@Ravensoul93]

Lord of the Lost didn’t deserve this 😢😢💔

[@peppermintcrush5794]

I voted for them!! Love from Sweden

[@bateman694]

it just proves the fact that you don't have to take this competition serious because it's always about the song and who is the better artist

[@kawaiivintage3597]

After all, a big financial scam has taken place here, when the winner has already received such a large jury score on Friday that no other country has had a realistic chance of getting a higher score and yet they have been asked to vote on Saturday. It would be fair to the people who voted in vain if Eurovision and ebu published the number of paid votes. Even more it starts to look like a shady activity when they don't take any position on this commotion and delete people's comments on social media. I believe that next year's Eurovision should be canceled completely if the EBU continues to hide. Sweden can keep them as soon as the money collection scam has been investigated.

[@OkaySoShit]

Deserves zero points

[@OkaySoShit]

​@@bateman694 patrick suc ks

[@MKWahPhil]

As a German I am planning a vacation for when the next Eurovision Song Contest happens 🤣

[@elizabethbrown3717]

Same as being British I'm going on holiday

[@Kessra]

@@elizabethbrown3717 At least you didn't end up last with 0 points as Austria did back in 2015 :D A record no other country has yet achieved

[@candygilsantiago8762]

TLOL made a great performance! Couldn't believe such underrated treatment 😢. They CLEARLY deserved much more as well ❤. A big hug from Spain.

[@ivanmacgar6447]

Yeah, I'm Spanish and so do I. But only outside of Europe. Maybe Morocco or Mexico?

[@carloartificialintelligence]

@@elizabethbrown3717 : this time the problem was the singer - worst vocals at the competition.

[@marcostanley4881]

Hey Matt and team. Thanks for your coverage throughout the season. I missed seeing you at the press center but still… Great job from the hotel room. Huge applause, and looking forward to seeing you next season 🖖🎈🙋🏻‍♂️

[@user-tg8ti5xg2l]

We witnessed most amazing show of Eurovision in the last few years and at the same time most boring result revealing because result was very predictable. UK public shouldn’t be angry with their place as their performance was honestly very weak to compare with Sam Ryder

[@Inuyasha619]

Really. It was the worst for me as I could predict the winner from start. It's like why watch when you know one of the people has already won multiple times and is big star. Vs others.

[@rickliang2709]

Take this from a mathematical perspective, a few countries giving away low score to UK could be said as audience's bias but when all other countries had similar feedback to UK, then it's the majority's opinion, which should be respected. We could have argued that all others might have prejudice over UK, but it is not totally the truth. UK placed second last year, that proves that the audience knows what they like or they don't. The majority would still approve if UK makes a brilliant entry again, just like last year.

[@pn29-d6u]

we (uk) had nothing to lose this year because we were hosting, and so tap (the company selecting the artists for us) actually made the right choice with mae because we might as well take the risk this year and see what happens. honestly no-one cared how we did this year, i think the entire country is just living in the fact that we're hosting for the first time in 25 years and so they just enjoyed that. obvs the risk didn't pay off but it was never going to, but good that we've tried it now rather than later on.

[@AmaanStorm]

I think with the UK, we have to accept the fact that we have to find an artist with the ability to deliver live vocals with power and conviction. Mae Muller, as lovely as she is, was honestly so weak vocally. At times you could hear the backing track more than her. The same goes for Serbia this year. You couldn't even hear him vocally. Their points were justified.

[@Dim4323]

Simply put, mae muller can not sing

[@markcolburn1203]

It’s simply a function of the points system. It magnifies the difference between first and last. Especially when everyone chooses the same song as their favourite. The only way to change it would be to award points to more places, it would at least make people feel like their favourite got a fair shake, even if they didn’t win.

[@vanillaGirl1981]

I agree. I feel bitter because I've voted 20 times for my favourite and no points were awarded to it from our televote. I feel I've spent money but my votes didn't count what so ever. If rules allowed to award points to more entries than just 10, people wouldn't feel like their vote was worthless, like I do now.

[@juliaortizmolina7111]

Ahhh... that bitter feeling after every Eurovison. But I had lots of fun.

[@ar50000]

But, this is much WORSE than usual. Vloggers put great effort into their content telling us DAILY why each song is interesting and what is good about the lyrics and staging and how they can be improved. Viewers read their content enthusiastically only to be rewarded in The Final with a predictable result last year, and a total borefest winner this year. The scores are a slap in the face for most artists. Why parade them on The Turquoise Carpet for this?

[@juliaortizmolina7111]

@@ar50000 Nobody forces them to take part in the show. I dont like Loreen... but she is the winner and deserves our respect.

[@malw6323]

@@juliaortizmolina7111 I don’t think it’s disrespectful to her to state a subjective negative opinion on her creative output, it’s a competition, supposedly.

[@crterjd8154]

@@malw6323it’s disrespectful to discredit her win and continue to compare her to a spot under her that isn’t even in the same genre as her. If we’re comparing in the same genre, Estonia and Italy could’ve taken it home, their performances were top tier this year along with Loreen’s performance, but it’s not like their fans are rioting about the placement they got. Germany most likely isn’t happy to see their country in the bottom 5 AGAIN, but hey they aren’t being disrespectful to the other artists who competed, they’re just taking it and moving on.

[@nocturne7371]

Sweden gave Finland 12 points both in the jury and the televote

[@In_my_own_mind]

Norway also gave Finland 12 in jury and televote.

[@MikaMooMoouwu]

A bit of a funny insight but Finland televote gave norway 12 points haha

[@sannev8407]

Finland gave Sweden ZERO televote points

[@vem9583]

@@sannev8407 in fact Finland was the only country to give 0 televote points to Sweden. Also Sweden 2023 is the first winner to receive no sets of 12 points in the televote.

[@kennet7837]

​@@sannev8407 Yeah, they really did not want Sweden to win. Bless them!

[@debsiduracel]

Where can I claim my voting money back as it apparently did not matter for the final result?

[@osk9013]

As a Finn I am satisfied with the results: Finland won but Sweden will pay the year 2024.

[@manuelfernandes8405]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@babygrogu845]

😂😂😂

[@haraldholm8629]

😂😂😂😂 Such sore losers

[@nicolinenielsen7825]

😂😂😂😂

[@luiscorreiarafael4263]

Running order really impacts the votes. Portugal deserved better :/

[@kajanaland25]

Both Portugal and Austria.

[@JL-vw1mm]

Slovenia also got lost between Croatia and Israel, even with number 24.

[@alexandracastro9619]

I am dumbfounded by the jury and especially the televote results for Spain. I have no words 😮 I'm not spanish I'm portuguese by the way and still holding a grudge from 0 points from Spain past year. But GOD this was unbelievable! Spain to me had one the best songs in YEARS not only this one. Ridiculous...

[@mreurovisionau]

Spain probably got ranked by many countries 11th to 15th, something like that. The problem? That means 0 points. Only the top 10 get points. The system has long been outdated, and points should be awarded to more countries.

[@Healthandmindforlife]

Nah Spain never had any interest from the public. The song is not something you would hear but a few places in the world, and vocally its not hard to perform.

[@andyx6827]

​@@mreurovisionau No, Spain actually did do horrible. Spain wasn't even close to getting more points. Spain had the 24th televote rank, only Portugal and the UK were slightly worse. If it weren't for all the Latin-American countries in the 'Rest of the World' vote, Spain most definitely would've gotten even less points.

[@mreurovisionau]

@@andyx6827 I was trying to be diplomatic. I never liked Spain at all.

[@girlwhomustnotbenamed4139]

​@@andyx6827How could Portugal be worse than Spain? They got like 16 points. That said, I just don't get why people are surprised, the Spanish song was literally unbearable to listen to. I acknowledge Blanca's talent but holy ish, I needed to mute my tv. And reading some comments I was far from being the only one.

[@aleksanderpagels288]

"Two-hundred and what?" summed it up so well because at that point we knew if Sweden had won if we heard Graham simply say two-hundred 😂

[@Werderina]

Germany at Eurovision: Game over. At least for me. 🇩🇪 Thank you Europe!

[@Kessra]

You should convince Stefan Raab for doing an alternative talent show where his winner is participating in ESC. Most of them did actually really well. Also, Michael Schulte did probably one of the best German song in quite some decades. ARD/ZDF should start thinking on their approach and question why Italy is actually doing really good out of the big 5 while all the others really struggle.

[@carloartificialintelligence]

Germany doesn't get any support from the neighbour countries, but this is not the main problem. Mostly you send to ESC good artsts and good performers, but very forgettable songs.

[@ivaluna6397]

Germany deserved more, it really made me sad, greetings from Croatia

[@goupildubocage2018]

i'm french and i voted for spain and germany. i loved when the singer of Lord of the lost covered some other songs of this contest in many foreign languages as french or finnish. he also sang solo solo 😂 very interressant. good job germany and so sad .

[@queenofthegods]

​@@carloartificialintelligence Germany received jury and decent televote points from neighbouring country Austria.

[@manuelfernandes8405]

I wonder if odds agencies have something to do with these results, i mean, if people who bet in songs already know, by any means, what's going to happen in the final. That would mean an huge act of corruption if one day we will all know that jury are being bought by the odds agencies.

[@tobiasgund8048]

That's exactly what I wonder. Who knows if the judges or their relatives get to bet? Sweden had the bonus of being Sweden and Loreen being a "legend" and I'm sick of it.

[@manuelfernandes8405]

@@tobiasgund8048 I am sick of it too, and this will turn many esc fans to esc non-fans anymore (and Eurovision without ESc fans is just nothing)

[@niklassjoman5075]

Abba ha 50 annivercy next year. Think about that jury woting

[@lynetteh824]

​@@niklassjoman5075 Yes exactly, it has been preplanned for years. So the best thing to do was to bring Loreen out, to justify the win. I say get rid of the Juries, or at least reduce their power to 30/70%. Also, people don't realise, but the ESC as a competition is rigged, EVERY YEAR! 😅

[@jonnywoo5962]

an amazing contest - what we learnt? what happens when we have a ru-away winner with the current voting system? / what happens when the fanbase unite almost exclusively behind one act and that act doesn't win? / what happens to voting when one country is being attacked? / what happens's to an arena of fans who don't know how their home act actually sound on TV? (btw in the arena all the acts sound pretty amazing because of the system / acoustic)- we learnt all this this year! My fave didn't win. My fave hardly ever wins! But it was one of the best contests since Loreen won in 2012! If Karijja had won it might have been the perfect Eurovision - but will we ever get EVERYTHING! I'm sure Sweden will do an amazing job and Kariija will be back year after year anyway! Congrats Loreen and the BBC / Ukraine for an amazing contest!

[@vanillaGirl1981]

I'm so mad with the overall results. Specially heartbroken for Serbia, it was my winner. 😓 Germany didn't deserve last place at all, so sorry... Nor Portugal, my country, deserved bottom 5. Shocked about Spanish televote score as well. Disappointed about Slovenia... And I wanted Finland to win. 🥺

[@rickliang2709]

I voted for Portugal and Slovenia but the results didn't go as expected. Germany deserved better positions.

[@vanillaGirl1981]

@@rickliang2709 Thanks anyway. ❤️

[@Afer-Dita-]

Thank you guys for Albania it was the 10th televote 60 points is better then nothing 👏🏻

[@geekofix]

As a German I think Liverpool was one of the best ESC's ever. All the shows were amazing. Eventhough Patty Gurdy didn't have the best evening in the national final, I think seeing the constellation of this years songs, it's possible we would've gotten more points. Same with Anica Russo. Maybe we still would've ended up last. I am still happy that we sent LotL. They are amazing. I think after the drama with Electric Callboy last year, people really were sick of the constant pop songs. I also agree with international people who say they would love to hear Germany singing in German. Well Frida Gold couldn't participate in the national final. I honestly think that bands like AnnenMayKantereit could do well. I doubt they would compete, but seeing people from all over the world react to them, for example the Tom's Diner or Just can't get you out of my head versions and then their own songs in German. I love this contest, but I am honestly against jury votes. It's a joke that 5 people of every country have such a power. Just look at some people in those juries. I mean Katja Ebstein is the head of the Germany jury. I don't wanna discredit everything she has achieved in the past, but she is 78 years old, born in 1945. This is an event for the people. It's a bit ridiculous that every year the jury give so many points to Sweden, when they come with one US pop song after another. But the funny thing is, if we Germans would get Lady Gaga to compete for us with a new great song, we still would end up last. Maybe second last. My favorite was Finland and I am very happy the German public gave them 12 points. At the same time I am sad they didn't give points to Austria. My favorites were Finland, Norway, Austria, Australia, Belgium. I knew Sweden would end up well, but this year it was way too obvious by the jury. So, get rid of the stupid jury. Nobody cares about so called experts. The first seconds of Finland I thought "Oh, Electric Callboy has a new song". At least Finland had the balls to send this guy and let him do his thing with the great dancers. I also would change the points system. Imagine you are always 13th, so you'll never get points, even if you are not that bad. 26 participants would mean max 26 points. You're last in the public votes, you get one point, 25th get 2 points etc. up to 26 points for the first. It was a great contest and I have a solution for next year. I just will go to bed before the results will be announced.

[@HelenaUschanoff]

Finland 💚

[@misstitul]

I was one voted for Germany 😢

[@babuhaka]

Same And my country gave them 5 public points...

[@sp9459]

Thank you so much 😢❤❤

[@intensemint7800]

Me too! 🖤❤️💛

[@lgrcen2008]

Me too

[@beautifullife2150]

Luke Black is simply a WORLD CLASS! Above the ESC! HELLO HOLLYWOOD!

[@paulapereirinho2070]

Germany didn't deserve to be Last. Also sad for France and shocked with spain result. I was expecting a top 15 for Portugal but that spot was really to kill our chances.

[@Fatima502]

Matt was spot on when he said that 376 wasn't enough. Not much math is required, so all that fake suspense from the presenters was a waste of time.

[@seteliseppo8803]

Yeah. The juries ruined it.

[@Fatima502]

@@seteliseppo8803 I think the vote presentation ruins it, for me. With every year we're more au fait with the sort of figures needed in the televote. We don't need calculators.

[@annakobuk3618]

"There will be less drama". Oh, little did you know...

[@ESCunited]

Yeah, that comment did not age well

[@TheCrazyFreak]

So many disappointments regarding the results for me this year, including the winner. I knew the juries would tank all my faves. 🙄

[@ar50000]

UK, Spain, Germany and France should pull out and not fund anything. Vloggers have spent months telling us about all the innovative acts, yet this borefest wins?

[@MP-jy5ic]

I can't moan about uk this year the performance was poor the voice weak and the song generic. Had a feeling it would happen after last year

[@VaMage]

The flops of these countries were expected, too overhyped entries.

[@milanradenkovic6029]

This political Eurovision punished Serbia for not imposing sanctions on Russia. They committed aggression against Serbia in 1999, and in 2008 they recognized the so-called Kosovo. It is interesting that the representative of Austria (Serbian) also got 16 points, the Slovenian (he is also Serbian) did not place well in the table. Serbia should no longer participate in this charade.

[@alipanroosendaal9503]

Enjoyed the show, then?

[@ivanmacgar6447]

​@@VaMage funny enough, the only overhyped Big 5 country is Italy, like almost every year.

[@luisebritta6139]

The voting system needs to be revised.

[@esme6346]

I'm done with Eurovision. Graham Norton said he didn't want Germany to win as he never wanted to listen to that song again. The promotion of the songs was totally biased across the board. The jury were disgusting. So many excellent songs bombed, and even I agree Finland should have won and I didn't really like it that much personally. Sorry guys, I've lost my faith now, good luck all.

[@Werderina]

Who is Graham Norton? That old f*rt hating Germany? 😂

[@trildi]

Exactly how I feel. I need a good cry, I'm so shocked and disappointed, and it all seems surreal.

[@kellrassless]

Where did all my votes for Germany go? Gutted for them

[@amadeuz8161]

Sad thing is that people said that Sweden will win because of Abba 50 before the final started and I told them to tighten their foil hats. Now I have to listen to those people telling me how blue eyed I am. So if Abba will join the show next year it will prove them right so hope Abba won't show or that there aint any Abba theme because that would pop some foil hats if people will still remember.

[@minnamariaj]

Finland and Käärijä is the winner of peoples hearts 😍💚💚💚

[@nenadmatic4019]

Serbia 😢😢😢😢

[@michaelamandelof1085]

I voted for Germany and I'm sure many other Finns did too.

[@claracosta9354]

As I saw the Sweden song is with music made in 2006 from Mika Newton. There is other versos in Portugal that I know very much with a lyric in portuguese.

[@mariafoslihansen7801]

NORWAY😍😍

[@wss29-4sf0]

All 5 German jurors awarded Sweden first place. All 5 ! That only can happen corruptly. Not a single point to Finland, the public gave 12 to Finland.

[@mreurovisionau]

Very realistic commentary. When Finland got the huge score, I was doing the quick mathematics and realised it was only a faint glimmer it was enough to win. Sweden were popular too, and would always get over 200 points. The real issue is the juries crushed Finland while excessively voting for Sweden. The love Sweden. That's how Sweden won in 2015, and most years since they've scored far better with the jury than the public. The only country with more love from the jury is Australia. Every year far more points than the public. The only exception was 2019 with just 20 more points.

[@karinaschnabl6978]

Finland came 5 in the jurys vote which was stupid, because he can't sing and it's really not a good song

[@Merecir]

Sweden does not score well when we send bad songs, like in 2021. 46 from the juries and 63 from the people.

[@robkrol1101]

I'm actually shocked thats my Country Poland was 8th place its kind of crazy ;) (jury don't love us aside first start from early 90s )

[@jaksap]

Serbia ranked FIN higher than SWE both in public and jury vote 😀 Why did not the others?

[@Leena79]

Hey, no need to have a riot or a war, we just had the second best result in our ESC history, with a song sung in Finnish, and we are all super proud of Käärijä. Loreen won fair and square, and Sweden is going to organize an awesome party in 2024. Love from Finland. 💚💚💚

[@thenorbert9581]

But im afraid it will be long time that you’ll have another chance of winning…

[@JT-295]

@@thenorbert9581 We waited 44 years for the first one and we can wait a bit again. Also it isn’t about winning.

[@AnArtistInAVoid]

As much as I agree with your point of view, I personally think it’s kinda ridiculous that sweden won with someone who’s already won. It just feels incredibly cheap.

[@MillennialPanic]

We all wanted you to win 🇫🇮🤜🤛🇬🇷

[@Leena79]

@@thenorbert9581 That's how it goes. There are many countries, who probably feel the same way tonight. When Käärijä was chosen to represent us, I said, that alone is a win, because I felt Europe needed to see him perform. It's all been a win ever since, because of all the joy he brought us. I did hope he'd win, because of how amazing he is, but Loreen is amazing, too, even if her song wasn't my favourite this year. Who knows, what we'll have next year. Not another Käärijä, because he's one of a kind, but something equally amazing - or not. Just because we didn't get a glass sculpture and the responsibility of organizing the biggest party in the world, it doesn't take away all the joy and sense of unity Käärijä brought to our country. I'm positive we have the musical talent required to do well again, if anything, this year proves we just need to be ourselves.

[@marsh2741]

I voted for spain and then heartbroken to see it last in televote 😭

[@mariaantoniaramiro4270]

Thanks from Spain, don't worry you have votes quality and art.

[@jatojo]

Lol, you were so off, Matt. 😂 In the beginning anyway.

[@silenced4raven]

Todos sabíamos que a Loreen ia ganhar desde o início. Todo o “alarido” em volta da canção ditaram cedo a vitória dela. Para além disso… a Suécia é dos países com mais dinheiro para investir na Eurovisao. Tudo previsível … demasiado previsível. O televoto foi vergonhoso para alguns países… como sempre. Portugal com 16 pontos e Espanha com 5… a França…foi absolutamente… ridículo! Mas Portugal está bem e recomenda-se 🖕❤

[@henriikkak2091]

Sweden was first in the betting odds before anyone had even heard the song.

[@manuelfernandes8405]

@@henriikkak2091 Exactly, that sounds too strange to be a fair voting procedure.

[@ar50000]

And Australia should pull out too. Such an enthusiastic band. You couldn't ask for more from them, yet pants points from televoters.

[@Hannig]

I voted for them! My whole group I was with put them in our top 5. Australia were great

[@ivanmacgar6447]

Dude, Australia was top 10. They had a good result actually.

[@intensemint7800]

​@@Hannig Me too!

[@jonathancavallin4920]

They should feel lucky to have qualified with that terrible song honestly loll

[@chimssneakers]

@@jonathancavallin4920 Don't get what you said. They literally ranked #1 in semi 2.

[@toinenosoite3173]

You were really on the point here - yes, Sweden won, and yes, there will be some contorversy PS. Did you have some Swedes behind you as they seemed to be extremely happy about Loreen's win?

[@-_YouMayFind_-]

Austria suffered from the fact that in semi 2 there was no sweden, Finland or israel but now there was. So the people that voted for austria now probably voted for sweden, norway or finland. Too many pop songs but in the end sweden won because of the juries for some reason eurvision always feels unfair in some way or form if its because of the juries or that they vote on their neighbors which HAPPENED AGAIN. I think its time the juries are not going to vote next time. Or they should lower the percentage of the votes that the juries have now. So not 50% but 30% for example. Or just remove completely

[@avtomad722]

Elsker deg, let's just be happy!

[@christopherbremner7493]

I feel like the jury fixed it so Sweden won for ABBA 50 year anniversary. It annoys me because I feel like 2 years Eurovision hasn't been a song contest and decided by a certain thing. The fact Loreen was so far ahead was ridiculous

[@JT-295]

… Yeah it was a birthday thing that makes sense……

[@milanradenkovic6029]

This political Eurovision punished Serbia for not imposing sanctions on Russia. They committed aggression against Serbia in 1999, and in 2008 they recognized the so-called Kosovo. It is interesting that the representative of Austria (Serbian) also got 16 points, the Slovenian (he is also Serbian) did not place well in the table. Serbia should no longer participate in this charade.

[@alipanroosendaal9503]

​@@milanradenkovic6029 Has it occurred to you that maybe it had something to do with the song? I enjoyed it, but not enough to vote for it. Get some perspective.

[@dostayer3369]

​@@milanradenkovic6029 you should be happy he has even managed to qualify, he wasn't singing, he was mumbling, and was the worst in the Semi IMO. And no, it has nothing to do with politics this time.

[@naewsqrg]

@@milanradenkovic6029 Thank Croatia for their points in the semi, otherwise Latvia would have been over you...

[@NuggetEsc]

It should be 25% juries and 75% televote i hate the juries so much

[@cecilialeitet2794]

Anyone asking for a full televote must not have watched Eurovision when this was a thing. Apart from a few bangers, it was the worst decades for music by far. All show, no quality really, and a crazy amount of block voting.

[@kyubidzns]

Sweden most undeserved win ever, sweden got from zero countries 12 points from the televote

[@marcostanley4881]

Sorry for all 25 entries who didn’t win. More so for some 🤷🏻‍♂️ Coming last would’ve been unfair for every single act this year.

[@sushi777300]

As a German I think we should step back and pause our participation at Eurovision. Quite obviously it is not the entry that gets rejected but we as a people. Yes we sent some crap in the past that deserved the last place but this time it felt personal as LOTL performed well and a position around 15 would have been more than deserved 😢

[@mimmiblu6138]

Send Rammatein and see how much we ALL love your real music. A hug from Italy

[@sushi777300]

@@mimmiblu6138 Eurovision audiences made sure to scare off any noteworthy German artist from participating and I can't blame them. Loreen would have gotten little to no points if she participated for Germany. I always defended Eurovision but this time the last felt personal and I think it is meant this way. Germany is not welcome in the Eurovision family ☹️

[@mimmiblu6138]

@@sushi777300 that could be said for Italy, too. But we send our best artists nonetheless. The jury bias this year was so real "you could have cut through it with a knife" as we say in Italian, yet Marco didn't do bad. When you did the same years ago you go much better scores... when you sent Michael Schulte in 2018 singing that genuine song about his family you did do well.

[@ivanmacgar6447]

@@sushi777300 I'm Spanish and I actually DO agree very much with you. Not all countries are treated equally in the contest, so there's no equality or unity at all here. Which makes it unnecessarily unfair for some. For example, some countries (Germany, the UK, Spain, Portugal) have to do a truly collossal effort to even be at the left side of the scoreboard, yet some other countries (Sweden, Italy, Ukraine, Norway) could literally have a person sitting on a toilet on stage for 3 minutes (not even singing or anything, just taking a dump) and they will still be top 5/top 10.

[@sarivuohenkunnas6798]

I understand how you feel. I also feel that Finland should stop for a while, too, to take a breath. I found Euphoria great, but it took me two months to listen to Tattoo to the end. I found it boring. Once you polish the work too much, the result becomes too much to be identified with. We have a saying in Finland that goes like this: " The rowan berries taste bitter to me, said the fox". Bitterness is well-deserved.

[@someothername7886]

Does this count as one of the most disappointing jury/televoting results? That jury vote, and televote to a lesser extent, really made it impossible for anyone to be a surprise winner.

[@Eurojdkkwkd]

Finland should have won…

[@flawlessflopper]

HIGHLY AGREED, JURY POINTS WERE DEF RIGGED!

[@JT-295]

Nahhh. Sweden deserved 1st and Finland deserved 2nd.

[@lia5505]

No way!

[@Dickens58]

@@JT-295 Not at all.

[@tdmegabro5144]

I agree

[@tobiasgund8048]

I've never been more mad. Loreen got the Sweden bonus and the "Eurovision legend" bonus. The song was mediocre, the singing was sub par. I'm so disappointed.

[@michaelkjellander9370]

If her singing was "sub par", how was Finland's singing? Godawful? 😆

[@Copyrightbreaker22]

There was nothing mediocre about loreens performance but it's still sad

[@catariveira]

Loreen s song=Abba!!!! Eurovision Never More!

[@L3uku]

@@michaelkjellander9370 Yes. Godawful describes it well, but cha cha cha is not build on being able to sing is it? Tobias is also right about Loreens entry, it was mediocre and compared to other songs that had same characteristics just much worse that those in comparison, staging and singing included. Juries work in mysterious ways indeed. Good run still for both of them and neither will be forgotten over the coming years.

[@Healthandmindforlife]

Congrats to the real winner this year Finland. We all know it. Chachacha ftw

[@alipanroosendaal9503]

If it had won, would you have agreed with Swedes saying they were the real winners?

[@Healthandmindforlife]

@@alipanroosendaal9503 100 people decided a winner vs millions who decided another winner.

[@alipanroosendaal9503]

@@Healthandmindforlife Yes, and if Finland had won you would not be questioning the system. You are only angry because your favourite lost, lets be honest. You can still listen to the song and enjoy it. I will be listening to a playlist of songs that didn't win their national finals, but are still terrific tracks.

[@AtHomeAtWorkAtPlay]

@@alipanroosendaal9503sorry for crashing your discussion but I read this argument so often that people are only bitter because they love he Finnish entry…. Finland wasn’t my favorite by any means - it just seems a bit „unbalanced“ that a song wins that wasn’t given 12 points from the public in any country whereas the song that got 12 points from 18 countries (if my information is correct) doesn’t win. I guess the narrative that it would be so great if Sweden hosted the ESC 50 years after ABBA miiiiiight have something to do with the jurys‘ votes….? Sweden‘s song really was not that innovative, outstanding to get so many 12 points from the jury?

[@alipanroosendaal9503]

@@AtHomeAtWorkAtPlay (You are welcome) . We all know the dimensions of the voting system. It is perhaps not perfect but going in, we all know what can happen. Carping about it now just looks like sour grapes. If Finland had won Sweden fans could say why did they win with such a low jury vote. - Meanwhile, if you go down the road of suspecting dozens of jurors voted with the specific intention of creating an ABBA 50th party then, at the end of that road is a pile of tin-foil hats. 😉

[@Mikki247]

This year, fairly predictable, it was a bit sad. The crowd going cha cha cha was the best part🤣

[@Werderina]

Käärija won. Besides Lord of the Lost he was my highlight in this year’s Eurovision. Much ❤ to Finland and the true winner! 💚💚💚

[@shlomomarkman6374]

Remember watching this. Actually brought a calculator to see it the jury could be overridden. I knew that in order for that to happen Sweden needed to flop like in 2018 or at least get below 150. Then i saw country after country gets low points (except Norway) and the pool of remaining points stayed too high. Then we got to top 10 and still they were ridiculously low points. I wanted the pool to get to 800 before Finland was called. Instead it was 978 and in that position Finland needed Ukraine 2022 level of performance (410+) to have a shot. Then the announcer said ,"three hundred..." and i knew it was over as there was no way both Italy and Israel would get 210+ each. Italy wasn't trending and Israel does poorly in north europe so no way and so it was... Historically, jury vote like that never happened before as juries usually spread the points more evenly.

[@AmaanStorm]

I wasnt bothered by who won Eurovision because i knew it would be a two horse race between Finland & Sweden, and i knew that Sweden would win. I commented this on several videos as a prediction. I also knew Israel would be the dark horse and grab third.....but the real excitement for me was seeing both Australia & Belgium absolutely prove everyone wrong! From their unveiling, i had them in my top 3, eventually both took the top two spots in my lists. I debated with those who wrote them both off as just casual fluff. I KNEW Voyager would come alive on stage like a stadium act that they are! They were fire. The fact they won their semi by a mile proves that they were always a force to be reckoned with! The same with Belgium, another song people slept on! The fact both grabbed a spot in the top 10, ahead of songs that were overhyped for months (Spain, France, Armenia & Austria) makes me so happy. I stuck with them from the off and they brought home the best results! So happy.

[@kiekendiefje]

I'm happy for Australia and Belgium they did so well BUT that was because of the jury. If it was up to the televote they would have done much worse. Bit odd that the people at home did not vote for Belgium while they got such a big response by the public in the arena and in the presscentre and that the televoters who voted for Australia in the semi were nowhere to be found :(

[@ar50000]

How can you be so enthusiastic? The most boring song won, and other interesting acts insulted with rubbish points.

[@e.s.7272]

As a German, I would very much welcome it if Germany would withdraw at least for the next ESC.

[@basquat76]

You can't win every time mate. No need to quit over it.

[@chcucivtxzclccucifudohzfu6766]

@@basquat76 we don’t expected to win. But if we get unjustified low results like this year (18 points in total is ludicrous for this performance) it’s clear we lose interest and that’s exactly what’s happening right now

[@basquat76]

@@chcucivtxzclccucifudohzfu6766 Hey i'm from Denmark and we can't even make it to the final. Instead we have to watch our scandic neighbors duke it out for the win.

[@chcucivtxzclccucifudohzfu6766]

@@basquat76 I think you would have deserved to qualify 2021 and maybe even 2022, unfortunately this year’s entry wasn’t that good. At least you have a chance at a good result with a good entry

[@basquat76]

@@chcucivtxzclccucifudohzfu6766 It's just how it goes. You can't be a winner every year. They can't all be satellites. People just didn't go for the Rammstein inspired band this year. I liked it though, i thought it was good. Much better then some of the others. Last year your entry wasn't that good though. I thought ours was decent this year but the performance wasn't good. But even if he had made it to the final he would have been at the bottom with you guys.

[@Angela-or9zo]

Very disappointing. A win would have meant so much for Finland, it feels ho-hum for Sweden. The shock 'oh gee, me?' Taylor Swift-esque reaction from Loreen is not genuine. They knew they had it in the bag from day one. At least last year, as expected as it was for Ukraine to win, it was a heart-felt show of solidarity that was justified. The inevitability of this win just leaves me cold and disgusted.

[@ublu3631]

Well, next year marks the 50th anniversary of ABBA winning the contest… make of that what you will…

[@Merecir]

@@ublu3631 AND 30 years since Herreys won.

[@ublu3631]

@@Merecir even 40 years but you’re right, two anniversaries for Swedish wins. How lucky they get to host in the year of these anniversaries 😏

[@arturovoces7875]

Kiss!!!

[@gemmiv5757]

austria was such a crime

[@anapinheirotorres2517]

The feeling is general. What a disappointed year and results. To many countries robed for the bets. After 20 years.... I'm done with ESC. I want quality, hard working and cultural music. I don't want American Idol with the bets behind controlling the results.

[@Xanela32]

I totally agree. I will not follow this corrupt circus ever again.

[@Merecir]

Loreen did just that. Quality on a different level from everyone else. Hard working like crazy, did you see her abs? As for cultural music, a good song is in itself Swedish culture!

[@peppermintcrush5794]

The jury didnt give Swdden the win. The jury trashed Finland completely. The jury didnt like Finland at all. They only got 12 points from two countries juries: Sweden and Norway. A lot of juries didn't give Finland any points at all. I didnt like Cha cha cha but was a bit chocked at how many countries juries that agreed with me. My own country, Sweden, disagreed and gave Finland 12.

[@Atte093]

Also swedens lead after juries was completely disproprtioned. Didn't deserve such a big lead over everyone else.

[@JT-295]

Finland did really well with juries I don’t know what you’re even saying.

[@igeekling]

Finland was top 5 after the jury votes before televote. What on earth are you on about. If placing top 5 is getting no points at all ... Heaven's only knows what you think of the 32 countries not in top 5

[@peppermintcrush5794]

@@JT-295 No they didn't. A lot of juries didn't even give Finland any points. I was a bit chocked by that even though I don't like the song. But Käärijää's vocal when singing wasn't good enough. The rap part he did well. But nor the other.

[@JT-295]

@@peppermintcrush5794 It’s not a jury pleaser and yet it did really well. As a finn myself I expected like 50 points total from the juries.

[@Dickens58]

Such a disappointing night.

[@alipanroosendaal9503]

Why? It was a great show, and it is a friendly competition.

[@sannev8407]

Spain, Estonia, austria.. shows why we need juries

[@sydan-wv9tm]

the winner shows why we dont….

[@sannev8407]

@@sydan-wv9tm Austria, estonia, Czechia, Portugal, Spain, Estonia, Armenia, France, Switzerland, Belgium, Slovnia, Serbia.. shows why we DON'T want full televote.

[@michaelkjellander9370]

I'd say that confirms why we don't need juries. Those entries were bad. I'm happy they gave Belgium some love though.

[@sannev8407]

@@michaelkjellander9370 lmao all those entries got robbed by he televote

[@ivaluna6397]

jury failed, quite shamefully, some countries were completely ignored despite a better and more interesting performance, I wonder if the jury votes were prearranged

[@missdead1]

Juries ruins the day yet again. Congrats on the televote win to finland 💚 Now will be years filled with boring songs...great

[@lennartandersson75]

So that was why Finland's televoters gave zero points to Sweden. The only country! It shows that you vote for the song you think was the best, doesn't it?

[@EmmyB-Yes]

Finns voted mostly for rock bands. I know it’s hard for some people to grasp but Tattoo is an average pop song.. there were 10 other amazing pop songs in the competition

[@trildi]

@@lennartandersson75 The televote votes for the songs they LIKE, not for the ones they think are the best. It's completely normal that the heavily-metal-focused country of Finland does not like manufactured pop.

[@lennartandersson75]

@@trildi No. it's not! They usually like Sweden1 Well, not when they is on the other side! Complex!

[@mariansantos-co6kd]

what happened to Spain and France.? EUROVISION CORRUPTED

[@Dickens58]

Agree completely. The jury bias for Sweden is completely out of hand and needs to be investigated.

[@V1novat]

@@Dickens58 my country of choice didn't win, therefore it's rigged grow up...

[@milanradenkovic6029]

This political Eurovision punished Serbia for not imposing sanctions on Russia. They committed aggression against Serbia in 1999, and in 2008 they recognized the so-called Kosovo. It is interesting that the representative of Austria (Serbian) also got 16 points, the Slovenian (he is also Serbian) did not place well in the table. Serbia should no longer participate in this charade.

[@alipanroosendaal9503]

Really?? ESC is a fun music competition not a geopolitical battle ground. Chill out.

[@Dickens58]

@@alipanroosendaal9503 With all due respect Alipan, I think it is very political and favors certain countries.

[@topiash7693]

Finland…

[@goupildubocage2018]

i'm french and had vote for SPAIN and GERMANY.... so sad and disappointed !!! Croatia and Poland made more than them ????? c'est vrai que la prestation et le staging de la France était très décevants. À moins de déterrer Édith piaf, je pense que ça devient impossible pour la France !😂 Tchéquie, Portugal , Moldavie, et beaucoup d'autres méritaient beaucoup plus..je ne comprendrai jamais les votes des européens !😂 c'était tellement excitant cette longue période de découverte des chansons et toutes les vidéos sur le sujet ! Le jour de la finale, je suis toujours déçue par les résultats même si les premières places paraissent évidentes ou legitimes... je ne sais pas si il a une recette pour gagner mais la Suède est le Paul Bocuse cinq étoiles ! je ne sais pas ce que l'Espagne peut faire à part envoyer des Jennifer Lopez à chaque fois ? et les Allemands, ils doivent être écœurés ! quelle injustice ! je reste fan de ce concours car ça reste un merveilleux moments de partage, de joie et de créativité ( euh...pas toujours payante) et d'échange culturels .❤

[@henriikkak2091]

The results are bad for the diversity of the contest and public engagement (paying to vote). Neither were rewarded.

[@BabyBlue-d7h]

I totally understand if people want to boycott this contest. Loreen´s song was so boring, a song we´ve heard thousand times before. She only won thanks to the "professional juries". Next year it will be 50 years since ABBA won and what a coincidence that Sweden gets the opportunity to arrange the Eurovision Song Contest.😁

[@Hadd-cc9hs]

Loreen got 243 points from public voting which is really high. It was more than 2x the 3rd got in public vote

[@trildi]

@@Hadd-cc9hs Incorrect. Norway was 3rd with 216, and Israel 4th with 185, and Italy 5th with 174. So far away from the more than twice you claim.

[@mrne1988]

I really wish they change voting system to give more power to public vote like, for example, jury only from countries that qualified to the finals. It would mean less announcers that are honestly are being annoying sometimes (You are there to give us votes, not promote yourselves), and it would make public vote more relevant. After all it is easier to bribe 5 members of jury than to fix televote.

[@adrtho]

lol this is why Jury voting was brought in ..stop the winnner being only from Nordic and slavic countries...it get tiresome watching Greece and cyprus giving each other 12 points too, now matter how crap they are Poland send a model who can barely sing , and slavic countries televoter are telling the world that this is 8th best performer at Eurovission

[@mrne1988]

@@adrtho Let's see, televote finals in 2010 won by Germany, 2011 Azerbaijan, 2012 Sweeden,, 2013 Denmark, 2014 Austria, 2015 Italy. 2016 Russia, 2017 Portugal, 2018 Israel, 2019 Norway, 2021 Italy, 2022 Ukraine and 2023 Finland. Most of the time jury and televoters agreed, and those song that won televote become huge hits. I don't see many slavic winners. And let's be honest, Scandinavian countries are always sending their best. Their selection lasts for months, and watching their finals is like watching mini Eurovision. So to put it simply, just send a good song and results will show...

[@adrtho]

@@mrne1988 i said " stop the winnner being only from Nordic and slavic countries" and you give me 6 out of 13 telvoting winners from Nordic and slavic countries as some type of Proof i'm wrong lololol

[@mrne1988]

@@adrtho Still less than half and usually they won jury vote too, so why do we need them really?

[@adrtho]

@@mrne1988 lol because Greece give Cyprus 12 point every year by tel voting

[@kimnovak8985]

I don’t understand the Televote points system scale. Have we ever had full disclosure on how it works or do they have their own system that the general public don’t know about. For example for every 100 votes you get 1 point. Also chatting with people from other countries they weren’t aware they could vote and some had no clue Eurovision had opened to everyone to vote. I feel full disclosure after the event with how many votes countries receive and what points they get for those vote would make it more palatable if your country gets only 15 points like Germany it was demoralising for many of the acts

[@johannaf]

I think the points 1-12 are awarded to the top in the countrys televote. I know that Melodifestivalen (Sweden) tried a percentage presentation of televotes that gave the entries their portion of the total pot according to all votes. That might make a difference or dilute the televotes too much compared to the juryvotes.

[@lolaluftnagel8251]

Germany, Austria and Serbia all getting 15/16 points from the televote 😳

[@dasmysteryman12]

That guy beside you is the most stoic person in the room. So gutted for Spain's televote but Blanca Paloma is still perfect no matter what the result.

[@daddad1963]

What can Germany do? I have no more idea

[@Merecir]

Send a good song....

[@Dim4323]

You better do the Eurovsion Disagreements

[@PenettiPenett-ji1wi]

Les jeux sont faites..😂😊

[@andrevilhena4149]

Findings? A shame!!! Songs like Portuguese (23), Spanish (17) French, for example, so poorly classified? And Croatia with an authentic song garbage ahead? What musical taste does this Europe have? After all, the old Europe of art, culture, blah, blah is a real sewer in terms of good taste. The real Eurovision contest was the one that only had the countries that started it and with only the national juries voting.Then everything came crashing down starting with the bookmakers which is an invitation to tamper with results, votes, etc... And then, the brazen votes of some countries on each other: Nordic among themselves, eastern countries among themselves. Oh, and enough of the emotional blackmail of some countries to win contests or get well ranked. They trivialize the suffering caused by war with constant blackmail at the level of emotions. Hugs! PS: Portugal, Spain, Italy, France, are countries that share their languages with several other countries in the Americas, Africa, Asia and I wonder if these countries could not organize something similar only with all these countries. The one who would lose out was Eurovision which was given to Nordics who only sing in English, are ashamed of their languages, and to eastern countries that divide the points between themselves. Perfect! Hugs from Porto, Portugal!

[@citizensallianceaustralia2025]

This is not good for Eurovision. Now before I go on this has nothing to do with Loreen and Sweden, and congratulations to Loreen for winning. However I am very disappointed in both the jury voters and the public. I am seeing a trend start to happen where the votes are being concentrated or centralised to a few acts. This will have a negative impact on nations participating. Nations like San Marino, Portugal and Denmark have already not participated in the past due to a feeling of not being voted correctly for their performance and from this year I am already seeing fans of Germany, France and Georgia making the same comments. This grand final was full of high quality performances and for Portugal and Serbia, among others, to get the amount of points they did was not right. Also I think the jury and public should vote in the same show. People who are once a year followers of Eurovision think that the jury votes on the same show they are watching on their televisions or through the stream, when the juries are voting on a totally different performance. Surely with computers these days there is no need for a jury only show. As soon as Australia's public vote was announced I knew Loreen would win because the way the voting was early on in the televote it was obvious most of the votes were concentrated to about 8 nations. As you said Matt at one time, the only two nations who grabbed over 100 votes early were Croatia and Norway. I sincerely hope this voting trend does not continue.