Real Talk with Google UX Designer

[@springboard]

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[@moebakh9135]

UX/UI design has to be the most confusing job in todays world of technology, while for big companies like google its more specific and you get to work with a big team, for smaller companies you get paid waaay less and you also tasked to be the (graphic designer, web designer, animator, content creator, UAT reporter & in some cases coding developer.. this needs to change, we need more information to be distributed.

[@yckieh568]

Exactly. A lot of companies still do not see the value of an amazing UX designer. Luckily, with everything moving online due to COVID-19 the companies that have sucky applications and websites are going to sink.

[@inderjanakarajan9389]

True!!!!

[@RameenFallschirmjager]

It's the oldest art in human history. It even could be found in cave paintings! It's not confusing, you don't have the necessary foundation. Don't confuse being challenging with being confusing. Learn the basing and hone your skills, then if you don't success just give up, your talent is something else.

[@tsk_tsk]

Is it really necessary to go for mdes in ux. Can't we go for certificate course?

[@mingan9347]

this is very true

[@MrUtoobee]

What is UX? You can see the youtube timeline split into 8 parts suggesting there are 8 questions. That's UX right there.

[@novaria]

Brilliant example

[@akshaytiwari4994]

Thanks for this. Can you also answer what is UI with this same video analogy for more clarification.

[@MrUtoobee]

@@akshaytiwari4994 The simple example of UI is usage of color red for the timeline, which basically is used as its the key brand color of the KZbin brand. The 2nd key color is gray. The comments that we put in KZbin is set in a certain color and font size. The icons of like dislike and comment icon or for that matter your user name and the number of months that your comment are all in a fixed color and font size. When you hit like or dislike the state of the button changes to blue, which is also the color of send button after you finish entering your comment. The photo next to your comment is also UI. So all these are the UI aspect of youtube.

[@MrUtoobee]

@@akshaytiwari4994 Also, The timeline is colored in 3 different colors. 1. Before the video starts its a hairline outline colored light gray. 2. If the video has loaded until a point, it shows that in white color. While the indication that white line is at certain point depicts UX, because it passes the information to the user about the loading status of the video. The color chosen for that line is part of UI and UX both. The red color line is also UI and UX. UX bcoz it represents or shows the user the current state of the video. You can probably take the analogy of a wall. The wall is created by using cement and bricks and binded together to make it strong and then smoothened to give shape. You then choose to color it with your choice of color. That becomes UI. Even with bad mixing and lack of proper smoothening will still make the wall look good but the foundation will crack some day. That is UX, the wall color is UI.. But wall is also part of UX because a bad color will lead to bad experience for the user. So you can see how UI is part of UX.

[@akshaytiwari4994]

@@MrUtoobee First of all thanks a ton for explaining with such detail man! Good UX from your part ;) My understanding from this is - UI is more about the physical elements that the user interacts with. UX is the information/experience conveyed to the user. A good UI is about good design sense, a good UX is about understanding a person's psychology and defining the best way to appease or be useful to that user. These two can and do overlap at times. I hope I got it somewhat right?

[@mariaj4239]

I am new to the UX world and she helped me to be able to easily describe what it is! Thank you for this video.

[@lungacirylntenga1676]

I love her analogy as being an Architecture, because that is really what UX design is all about. It was creating an experience from the start until the end.

[@TheEugevanz]

I can confirm as a UI/UX designer myself, work isn't easy and it takes longer to come to agreements and even longer to be happy with your own work

[@inakiwebtube]

Eugene Van Zyl totally agree is long winded if the product is done correctly

[@Fcycfvyvvyvtfutg]

This girl seems so easy and good to work with

[@emberN]

im new at being UI UX but im glad she got interviewed. now i understand the questions to the interviews. i can start my own story. Thank you so much!

[@LaurenAlley]

Getting my certification in UX and UI right now :) excited to continue down this path!

[@anantsaini]

Where are you learning it from? Please tell!!

[@LaurenAlley]

anant saini it’s an online program called CareerFoundry! Very pleased with it so far :) you get an assigned tutor who helps you with smaller tasks and a mentor who is an experienced person in the field to help you with larger stuff / your portfolio!

[@EmmanuelAriegoro]

Good day, Do i need to learn graphic designer first before learning UI/UX

[@patrickbateman7665]

@@anantsaini Try UDEMY

[@anantsaini]

@@EmmanuelAriegoro it helps if you do

[@Mizosoop]

Pencil idea pretty cool. I'm a data center technician at Google, right now. But, I started out in graphic design and I'd like to either be a PgM for UX or an actual UX designer. My skill set is definitely related to program management. But, I love design.

[@ajitnaik5638]

compromising design is very important point. Agree to that.

[@RidinDinesh]

Best way to explain UX and UI. Simple, take our body as a product and Soul as the user of the product. In order for the Soul to experience mortal life, what would be the ideal body for the Soul? As UX Designer, we would try to understand what Soul needs to do on Earth as a Mortal and then design the overall structure of the body, which includes Skeleton, positioning of each part (bone, organs, head, eyes, legs, etc), how each bone would behave, how each part would behave, movement limitation and many other). When all that is done, you then hand it over to the UI designer, who would then add the Visual appearance of the body (Skin color, eye shape, and color, the texture of the skin, the look and feel of everything. Change of skin color on the face when feeling shy). You can then pass this work to an Interactive designer who then can add hair movement, how your butt would giggle when running, how the skin would react when pressed, how certain body parts change in shape when blood flow increases). I hope you are more confused now lol. Technically, UX is a multi-disciplinary field. UI is just one part of the UX, just like UX researcher, Information Architect, UX writer, and many others. All working together to provide a meaningful experience for the user.

[@120pragatiprerna9]

Lol

[@TheNahrstedt]

Shout out the interviewer. You can run with the interview and offer some input. Thank you for posing the questions, you can also be curious if you like! Very straight forward, informative, I welcome your input! Meandering can be fun

[@PratyushTewari]

Great interview. Please try to reduce the amount of random stock video clips in between. They were hard to relate to Sandy's talk. Overall great questions asked and Sandy's insights were thoughtful.

[@a.2461]

This was a great video! really informational, helpful, and also interesting to watch :) loved Sandy's answer to the biggest challenges

[@Gaia_devi]

Avni T hey may I get your email id

[@BBI-Brandboost]

What great insight from someone currently active within the industry. We agree with several of the points made, especially about having the need to understand the language of different stakeholders in the design process. BBI Brandboost provides a wide range of website design and strategic development skills that will enhance the effectiveness of your website.

[@Vikyou]

It's funny to see a UX topic showing color palette thingies, UX designer is not a UI nor Graphic Designer. Show the real UX process please.

[@mujthabams9802]

Lol

[@tsk_tsk]

True. But now ux is merging with ui. It's actually confusing you can't define it properly. Like the duties vary from company to company

[@robbiejay]

So true! I don't know why there is this confusion between UX and UI in the business world.

[@badarulislam7256]

@@tsk_tsk UI is the part of UX Process.

[@RaymondStone]

@@robbiejay True. You see this confusion in many job applications. The job title will say "UX Designer," but after reading the description it's clear that the company just wants a visual designer who dabbles in UX, and not an actual UX designer.

[@renatagibson445]

Do you guys also hate it when people describe UI as being something pretty but useless? When done the right way, UI will actually incorporate UX research and then deliver products that are useful, beautiful and will improve usability. Both UI and UX should work together and not kinda compete with each other to see which one is more valuable - it makes no sense.

[@ananicolev]

I love the way she talks

[@IanAbinoja]

Not sure UX and UI analogy of paved road vs unpaved is accurate. One can promote UI as a layer added to UX to offer additional points of interaction to enable a stronger UX. Hence unpaved road with visual wayfinding or markers is a more realistic approach to describing UX and UI, if that is the analogy that we belive works.

[@Kaniskar]

Great interview. Very useful and informational.

[@comeonhohoya]

반갑습니다 저는 한국에서 ux디자이너,cx디자이너로 일하고 있습니다. 소식을 접할 수 있어서 반가워요 :)

[@jbquigley2010]

She is really good. Awesome video

[@telliffiermorris9004]

I work in higher education but would love to continue my UX journey outside of higher ed!

[@uxlordsimplifyingdesignpro5544]

Indeed Evangelizing UX is a super high hurdle to cross. its be a super valuable skill to have to be hired in a good position😎

[@xapimaze]

Using Google devices and applications has never been great from my perspective, but they are getting better. If you've had a hand in it that, thanks!

[@ijaelachi]

Very good interview, I like it very much!!!

[@riaa-c]

Glad I stopped everything to watch this video. I'm not alone with my thoughts about being a UI/UX Developer in my company. It's not easy to be trailblazer in a company who doesn't understand what it is. Which is ironic. Lots of companies are boasting their tech, websites and apps, but wonder why nobody visits their sites or uses their apps. They don't because they care little what UX means. And this is why other companies thrive, they listen to the people they hire.

[@4dshsgame]

Long live to UX!

[@pankhuriasija6926]

This interview was very helpful and insightful!

[@mosca-tse-tse]

Btw. Does anybody know why there is no remove button in the search box on the mail google search page? You can see it in the picture tab, but not on the main page. Why did they decide not to add it, what’s the idea behind?

[@slack.]

Hahah you can tell the host is very excited. 😄

[@IBRAHIMSSEKABEMBE]

I like how the the interviewer is asking like a she's computer

[@palashbhoir]

lololol almost felt like the cutscenes from games like monkey island XD

[@Randomdude-i8x]

She is just a bad interviewer. No follow up questions.

[@xLUMINOUSxYT]

@@Randomdude-i8x 😂😂😂

[@akshaytiwari4994]

I have read a lot about UI/UX but I didn't understand the analogy of 2 roads. Can someone help with what she really really meant?

[@devdollazz]

I think she meant- the UX is the dirt road path in the sense that it's the way users LIKE to take. Even though there is a nice paved road made for users to walk, everyone is different and might take the path they prefer- the dirt road, which might be the shortcut to the destination they want to walk to. Kinda like this: www.treehugger.com/desire-paths-shortcuts-public-sidewalks-4867870

[@RidinDinesh]

She is confused. Never use that analogy. Dirt road or clean road both consists of UX and UI lol. One road is meant for a particular user and another is meant for another user. Any path or journey the user takes, how they take, it consists of UX and UI. I am telling you 90% of the UX designers I have met cant explain the difference properly.

[@prodbybxnned]

good metaphor, im a ui/ux student atm, this was a very insightful video to watch

[@apa9031]

Hi guys, i need your honest opinion I'm confused in choosing between Data Scientist or UX Designer There are few questions about this topic, but i want to ask from different perspective I am right now a content creator, was a videographer so i do edit videos and such Visualization is always a part of me, i like to vizualize things like when i hear music i can imagine the videos that fits the music But what i asked is much bigger than that I know lots of people talk about what you're more into, if maths go with data science, if creative go with ux design However, i want to know how's the life of both careers? Which one offer better work life balance? Because when i did creative work, i didn't really have work life balance, i did a lot of overwork stuffs, because creative work sometimes requires you to think constantly or out of the box that really absorbed your attention even outside of your work hours. When i go outside, my body is in holiday mode but my mind is not there, thinking of the unfinished project. Then second, which one is more important and irreplaceable? Because i see lots of websites now offering design templates which mean maybe in the future, companies don't really need ux designer since they can use good templates from the internet. Cmiiw Third, when you become the CEO of the company. Which skill is best to master? Data science or ux design? That will absolute critical as someone in that position. Like to hear your thoughts about this, thank you

[@irenamartinez900]

If you're interested/good at data science, but like the visual/UX design, there's a fair amount of need for people who can do both. Google and Amazon specifically have positions for this joint role, which I believe focuses on UX research. Check out the MLUX Meetup if you're interested.

[@kimdahyun2893]

Go for data scientist UX would be irrelevant in the future since AI coding automation would replace them Why pay 80k a year when you can just buy off assest from Unreal engine and so so

[@EdCross]

Kim Dahyun28 do you really think automation is going to replace human creativity?

[@kimdahyun2893]

@@EdCross www.fastcompany.com/3063318/5-design-jobs-that-wont-exist-in-the-future Yes with new advancedment in ai and robust randomising of patterns which could make thousands if not millions of unique combinations which could replace the "creativity" in ux by humans

[@abhiux360]

@@kimdahyun2893 it cant replace.

[@seoulkimchi50]

excellent interview thank you so much

[@maksevsiukov1510]

How did the stock video insert appear here?

[@daniyalkhan3467]

Guide me ux/ui designer or cloud computing ? Where should i spend my life ?

[@culibarri7]

Do they use Sketch or adobe XD?

[@sandywoodruff2806]

I personally use sketch! :)

[@ruchaabhyankar]

Very informative

[@m.design]

I exactly use this example to explain UX to people! We are architects of digital products.

[@giuseppenativo2123]

The Word architect is a little abused nowadays. In tech there is an architect for every possible branch. Strangely, for the American law, no one can be called or call himself an architect unless she/he is a traditional, registered AIA, architect. It's a cool title for people that commonly studied graphic design.

[@sprintwithcarlos]

For all my English as a second language people as me, at 9:21 I almost sure that she says "All of this so far has been in collaboration with PM and ENG, which means Product Manager and Engineering, I guess

[@sameerkhan-xu4ve]

Which degree is required to become a ux designer?

[@HanSelah]

This was a very interesting video - Thank you :)

[@artisticagi]

I liked every answer to the questions except the UX UI difference. That answer made no sense and was not helpful in clarifying the purpose of UI and UX. It just made the person sound like she thinks UX is better than UI when that is not the case. Here is a better analogy: UX is the architectural plans, the blueprint. UI is the interior design of the finished blueprints. One is the structuring and the other is deciding how the structuring will look, which is also important.

[@imtiazalimoopan9101]

Would it be fair to say that the paint job is the graphics department and the house in total is the 'product' ?

[@renatagibson445]

Yas, thank you.

[@rfandi]

Her analogy was really really bad. UI is that paved path? And UX is that dirt path? Is she seriously a UX designer? UX and UI goes hand in hand. A good UI complements a good UX. A great UI obviously does not make an app with a rubbish UX great and vice versa.

[@HelloKitty-kb7ji]

Agree, she presented it really poorly

[@sandywoodruff2806]

Hey Arfandi, thanks for the feedback. I don’t think it that metaphor came across quite as I intended in the video. Both good UX and good UI are equally important! Perhaps the metaphor of UX designer as architect and UI designer as interior designer works better. Both are necessary, and one can’t exist without the other.

[@demetsentvrk]

I think she was visualizing a meme circulating around linkedin of two paths that describe the difference between UX and UI

[@floresgraphics8468]

Wtf these time stamps are dope! 🔥

[@floresgraphics8468]

Great vid and convo ❤️

[@vitalis]

Question: What gives more cache to put in your CV? UX Designer or Product Designer?

[@vviviadesign3739]

Great sharing! I m also a UX designer working at a Google in Silicon Valley. Thanks for sharing! Hope we can connect! I just started my KZbin channel sharing design and lifestyle.

[@Esthervibs]

Super useful thanks ❣️

[@devdollazz]

This is how I interpreted her UX/UI metaphor. The UX is the dirt road path in the sense that it's the way users LIKE to take. Even though there is a nice paved road made for users to walk, everyone is different and might take the path they prefer- the dirt road, which might be the shortcut to the destination they want to walk to. Kinda like this: www.treehugger.com/desire-paths-shortcuts-public-sidewalks-4867870

[@vinitsaini8626]

What is your education background plsss tell

[@gigglypuff3589]

What exactly is the difference between UX and UI I still don’t get it

[@gamasierra]

The comparison between UI and UX was terrible, it's definitely not as negative as she made it to be but actually more interconnected.

[@haze86]

Imo this video didn't need the stock footage cuts. It's a little weird.

[@asdftami]

I thought the same tbh

[@my_funko_scrapbook]

Couldn't get over the fact that she said "Sketch files"! Why is Google still using Sketch and not Figma!?

[@manelsouilmi598]

Does the UX designer need to be a developer? Thank you

[@rebel024]

No friend! but if you will work on it or software i recommend to you learn about main basic concepts about html, css and informatics lenguages

[@manelsouilmi598]

@@rebel024 thanks Pablo

[@icecream296]

Coincidence I too worked at Fab and currently I am working at another of ur employer

[@abhijitbharadwaj5369]

What a condescending way to describe UI design just because she's a UX designer lmaooo

[@KP-ul2ep]

I found the example a bit condescending too but I guess it illustrates the difference very well, in the sense that UX is geared towards the users needs and behaviors before thinking how the product will look like.

[@katychapman85]

I agree, I don’t think the example really showed the difference between UX and UI but more the difference between good UX and bad UX.

[@katychapman85]

I think the example she used about the house is better and one I use myself a lot to explain that UX is like the architect and UI is like the interior designer.

[@sandywoodruff2806]

Hey Abhjit, thanks for your feedback that the example sounded condescending. UI design is absolutely crucial to building good products and it was not my intention to knock it. I would revise the path metaphor like this (I don’t think it came across quite as I intended with the stock footage they chose to show in the video) Good UX and good UI: A path leading directly to where you want to go, beautifully paved. Good UX and bad UI: A path leading directly to where you want to go, but not nicely paved so get dirt on your shoes and it’s not pleasant! Bad UX and UI: A path that takes longer to get to where you want to go which is annoying, but at least the path is beautifully paved and you don’t get dirt on your shoes. Bad UX and bad UI: It takes long to get there and your shoes are dirty! Lose-lose :( In this sense, both good UX and UI are equally important.

[@RaymondStone]

To me UX is basically a roadmap and UI is the collection of roads and signs.

[@asdftami]

I love thissss

[@Trazynn]

Why is she using printed colour swatches?

[@MarioDarnadi]

its stock video from video banks

[@maxbart1353]

oh, i d love to have my home decorated that way

[@sandywoodruff2806]

Me too! This was filmed at the Springboard office lol

[@karanupamanyu3897]

Who was the designer she looks up to? I couldn’t quite catch that

[@corysantana6171]

Jessica Hische

[@LateNightCruisers]

Did she already have a degree before entering into springboard?

[@sandywoodruff2806]

Hey its_Mike, I had a degree in traditional graphic design before learning UX

[@dhritimansen3307]

Bravissimo. Thanks.

[@gianlucaaiello3858]

good design process :)

[@gianlucaaiello3858]

I was interested to know the tools they use at google though..

[@consta-d2c]

I don’t agree with a few things but most importantly what she said about “design skills are easier to learn than people skills” which is completely wrong if you work with softwares like cinema 4d, after effects, creating custom typography or know how to build a cohesive brand. It takes decades, what easier are u kidding me?

[@geetikapadam1229]

How to start our journey as ux designer, like what course to do, is it better to have a degree in designing or a diploma courses will prove better, what should a student of class 12th do? Please share me some details about all this, and whats the scope in India and in at global years in coming years.

[@phantomvox]

This interview helped me to forget about UX and pursue other career. The challenge of evangelizing what you do feels exhausting to me because you wont get taken seriously.

[@zkreso]

Lol what her example of compromise was the developers lying about what is possible and her looking into it herself and realizing they were wrong.

[@NicolaDiMarco]

I wear black turtleneck and glasses :)

[@skeche]

sorry the paved path vs the rugged shortest path is not a good example of difference between ui and ux. UI are the things along the path that helps make the entire journey enjoyable.

[@DelToro7]

I've never been stylish. I definitely don't dress the part of a designer (whatever that means). I feel uncomfortable at the few social gatherings I've had the nerve to attend. I still want to be a UX Designer 😥

[@sandywoodruff2806]

Hey DelToro! I just came here to say, don't let that stop you. I also deal with social anxiety, and am fighting it tooth and nail every day. This interview looks super polished, but I wish you could see all the cut scenes of my voice trembling because I was terrified to be on video! lol. Wishing you all the best.

[@DelToro7]

@@sandywoodruff2806 Well if you struggle with this and you're cool, I must be cool too! I appreciate you taking the time to notice me and reach out. It's comforting to know I made the right choice. I just started a post graduate program for UX Design in Toronto. I was feeling out of place as before this I worked in Petroleum Engineering. You're doing great, keep up the good work! I would have never known you weren't comfortable, you really POP on camera haha. Take care, Sandy.

[@sandywoodruff2806]

@@DelToro7 You are most certainly cool too :) Thank you, and good luck with your post grad program!

[@jarynzr]

ux = placement, ui = style, theme, drawing . as simple as that

[@RidinDinesh]

@Tenso 72 Design consists of UX and UI.

[@magmire1979]

Sketch??

[@alystdesign]

yikes. why are some people in the comments so negative? I thought UX designers are supposed to have empathy? I feel that she isn't able to articulate some words. I had the same experience in a UX conference where UX designers are so full of ego and trying to correct the speakers and mumble in their seats. *sigh*

[@AsKyron]

Cool input! But please stop using these stock footages. These images did so hard not match to what was said so that what was said was bended to a wrong direction.

[@nevinkuser9892]

I do meditation when I watch interviews because the video is 100% not important to understand her answers.

[@gayatri3900]

How much u make as a designer ?

[@fabricioms]

About three fiddy

[@09amlenz]

Who edited this video? It's an interview and you rarely even get to watch it.

[@AliHaider-rv5th]

Why the Host is so happy?

[@bouncecat]

"everyone around me got fired but I enjoyed the opportunity to get all the experience I needed so fast" Sorry but why does this sound so ingenious and dishonest? Vulnerability, anyone? Leadership and qualities to look for when putting people in to the spotlight ought to go beyond brands we work for. It's not 2010 anymore 🙄

[@sandywoodruff2806]

Hi M, Thank you for your comment, it really made me think. I cried when my coworkers were let go. It was a scary time and I didn't know if I was going to be the next one to be let go. But we helped each other through it and because of that, many found jobs afterwards or moved on to better things. But you're right, I think I tried really hard to gloss over the pain and find some kind of positive in the situation. I didn't find the courage to say that in the context of this video.

[@radheshtech6845]

Interviewer is an advanced humanoid version of a chatbot

[@mosca-tse-tse]

STAR method. She speaks as if she was having job interview and was just asked the question how did you handle a conflict at work 🤣🤣🤣

[@amitkarmacharya4493]

she just told us that google has developed products for their creators to protect them from google. lol.

[@joblesscreator9127]

City people are so lucky.. Because of lack of resources.. we don't get a Job.. Need Job atleast to reach my goal

[@bladechild2449]

"great collaborater"... nope, not the area of design I want to go down

[@megnelli]

She applied 3 times or went through the interview process 3 times...not the same.

[@lahirusupunchandra]

What's she's named, please (both). I like this interview.

[@KnaveKaiser]

Katie?

[@Simon-jr5pp]

Black turtle neck and glasses :) must have met me.

[@story5gtone369]

🖒❤

[@greham]

It's 2020, no one sane buys in the belief that UX & UI are separated.

[@mankindstudio4649]

most ux-ers I've met were very narrow-minded. I mean is nothing wrong with it, but is like knowing broad spectrum of design is something uncommon. I love (ugh!) working in team of 20 uxers team and solving one small fucking thing. Now process are more complicated just for sake of it! Is like limiting handyman just to hammering nails and nothing else. Where is fucking creativity??

[@AnkitKumar-kk3iw]

3:15 Using iphone in Google 😂

[@adesignerlife]

If this is a UX design video and not a packaging or graphic design then why do we see designers with Pantone shade cards. When was the last time you used a Pantone shade card as a Web/UI or UX designer? I mean seriously we use hex codes and not shade cards. Let's get over colored pencils and shade cards for once!

[@RockstahRolln]

LOL! Spot on!

[@diabloencorbata1989]

Wouldn’t be a sight to Interview talent other than the conglomerates. These companies monopolize innovations, built products with no ethics, and send trend/norms by hashtags. Talent is everywhere. In the epoch of inclusiveness-this interview attaches to the same old norms.

[@suhang59]

Bad examples. Who said people take a walk in a park needs that efficiency. I would be wandering around with a paved path, not a wild path with the wild animals. That's a statement, not the UX design.

[@bardz0sz]

Wow she is so wrong, voice interface is still a User Interface! Also the path metaphor is putting UI in a bad place

[@jayant.srivastava]

She is working with Google. And you?

[@andryverevkin5827]

@@jayant.srivastava And he know what is UI

[@bardz0sz]

Jayant Srivastava her manager should see that, I’m happy with my job at where I am thank you 😉

[@dewicked]

you are not wrong, yes voice interface is still a user interface, but being interviewed or working at google doesn't mean she always right all the time. i guess just stop pointing something like that, makes you look like you envy her and thought you deserve more just because you know something better than her.

[@sandywoodruff2806]

Hey Bardzosz, thanks for pointing out a piece that I wish I had been more clear about in the video. You’re 100% right that a voice user interface is still a user interface. What I meant to say was, when designing for voice there may be less of a focus on things commonly equated with UI design, for example buttons and page elements that have some aspect of visual design. UI design is of course a crucial part of the UX process it was not my intention to devalue it. Cheers!

[@Thissbetterwork]

is this interviewer real? Was this pre-recorded?

[@iamsharifahnadhirah]

Thats a sharp question....pretty one way of asking and not much empathy based conversation

[@sandywoodruff2806]

Nope, this was in person, we were sitting right next to each other. It took a few takes to record though, since I was very nervous about being on video!