Elon Musk Tesla Robotaxi Fraud Design Exposed

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[@realchris]

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[@putnamehereholdmadoodle]

I biught bitconnect once

[@GahMehGrrrr]

Spot on

[@equious8413]

"They're probably stupid liars" had me rolling lol

[@BillAnt]

Tesla pumpers are probably j*rking off right now at this news.... hahaha

[@HEAVENTWA]

The world's most unskilled liars still nonetheless can get millions of people to believe them if they have a good platform.

[@2LegHumanist]

They're shining Musk's rocket made me spit out my coffee.

[@snooganslestat2030]

Isn't that what we all thought the answer should be?!

[@mddell24]

@@2LegHumanist Nothing like a good polish to boost someone's ego, but it always ends in a bit if a flop. No one is super for long, Elon should know by now and stop sprooking his next miracle.

[@cherubin7th]

That "reveal" will just be how it "will" look like, but nothing actually working that you could put on the road without a steering wheel will be shown.

[@xyz12345457]

You mean like the big giant fake electric semi they had to roll down the hill because it didn't actually have a working engine?

[@JohnBailey39]

@@xyz12345457 Perhaps someone will dress up as a robotaxi this time.

[@troublefollows9986]

Musk is the tech version of trump. Bold claims that rarely come to reality.

[@wegder]

I'm old and have considered myself an environmentalist for decades, 0 to 60 means nothing to me, I want total efficiency, burning rubber isn't that. The particulate pollution from car tires is nearly 2,000 times worse than that from vehicle exhaust pipes

[@MrBillyFT]

Robo taxis are gonna turn a whole bunch of millionaire tech Bros into Uber drivers as they desperately try and prove that there’s a future in them

[@mddell24]

No. They just quietly quickly move the $s to the next hyped scam I mean scheme. Pump and dump - it is what every investor wants but rarely admit it.

[@tay-lore]

Is this really why we can't just have busses in the US?... busses would be PRETTY AMAZING TO HAVE!!! Not these deathtraps... I hate living here...

[@trucksanddirt1506]

Waymo is working in San Francisco, LA and Phoenix. Busses are also there. They are not mutually exclusive

[@sp123]

Everything in America is corporatized for profit. If bussing was more profitable, we would see private businesses create busses.

[@Julez60]

​​@@sp123which is the dumbest way to organize resources. Capitalism L

[@tay-lore]

@trucksanddirt1506 la and Phoenix have famously terrible public transit. What are you talking about? The only reason San Francisco's public transit is passable for a US city is because they didn't destroy their street car network like every other city in the US. This gimmick isn't a solution to anything, it's just a problem.

[@Julez60]

@@trucksanddirt1506 buses and trains are and will always be infinitely better for moving vast amounts of people around than these terrible robotaxis

[@fernc7947]

Telsa and Elon are all smoke and mirrors. The downfall will be Epic.

[@DrKatz-y2b]

I can't wait!!

[@hurtighansen1]

Coming soon

[@toygunreloader]

4:20 you're absolutely right, mass transportation would be the way to go if you really cared about the environment

[@PonziZombieKiller]

Yeap... it's is clearly a scam

[@malaika224]

Right. And environment aside, our current infrastructure/ roads could not take another million taxis on the road. Imagine the nightmare that would be traffic

[@jonathandeller]

​@@HopeIsFleetingBYD makes electric buses and it would be great if Tesla did too. A Tesla EV bus would be cool (probably) and might convince more to use public transport while showing the company is serious about putting the environment before profits.

[@jikan-tabi-1888]

Farzad talks like a certified tesla mega pumper bozo clown. 🤦🏼

[@tibbydudeza]

Certified clown like Mars dude 😂

[@vashkarpalma8165]

He gets paid by elon

[@realchris]

See this too kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6qzZZ6MbrGVfZY

[@tibbydudeza]

@@realchris So it is like a LuLuRoe convention (remember those ugly leggings from a few years back), MLM vibes.

[@origaminefretami3480]

Because thats what he is lol

[@Itory1337]

I am a convinced car driver. I really like driving cars, I also VERY much like driving EVs. But for the environment, the best car is still the one that isn't built.

[@veselekov]

Have you watched the Elon Musk series by Common Sense Skeptic?

[@LynnnnnnnnnN]

Also Thunderfoot

[@Kodakcompactdisc]

Yes

[@cherubin7th]

I watched them all, I need more content.

[@thomasthornton5125]

There is only one definitive fact when FSD and Robo Taxi's work, and that is when Tesla says they will assume liability for any accidents, injuries, or death. Until then it's just talk.

[@bobbybishop5662]

FSD is a hotdog on a stick to lure clueless retail investors.

[@jae52247]

I am so confused. Let’s give a fully functional, perfect FSD to Elon Musk. I don’t know even with that, this robotaxi thing would be successful. Why are people assuming that it will be the biggest thing ever? There are buses, trains, taxis, Uber, Lyft, etc. For riders, there is no difference between taking a regular taxi or Waymo and taking a Tesla robotaxi. Thinking robotaxi will be cheaper than buses and trains is ridiculous. If it is cheaper than a bus/train fare, how is a robotaxi Tesla owner going to make 30,000 dollars or whatever number Elon came up with, especially if everyone buys a Tesla for that? It is outrageously inefficient. At best, it would be a glorified Uber/Lyft. And, lastly, Americans love consuming and owning things. People are not going to suddenly ride robotaxi instead of driving their own cars.

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

I'm with you. Why are people assuming that robo taxi will be the biggest thing ever? The service that the robo taxi has the potential to provide already exists, and it has since the days of the horse drawn cart. Who cares if it is a "driverless" taxi? Rideshare drivers aren't exactly the highest paid labour on the planet. Trying to replace them with technology is going to have such a minimal impact on costs, you've got to wonder why. And then there is the human interaction to consider. Rideshare drivers are able to help people with their luggage, they're able to have a conversation and they are able to police behaviour, to an extent, at least. And you make a very good point regarding people "owning things". We like our autonomy, and cars give that to us. At the end of the day, you take your car 99% of the time, you don't hail a cab, book a rideshare or catch public transport. Car "culture" isn't just about hot cars, it's about how we use our cars. Cars are a lot more than just transport. Robo Taxi won't change that.

[@PonziZombieKiller]

They cray cray or just DUMB !

[@chow-chihuang4903]

Along the lines of policing behavior, who is going to keep the interior clean? Yuk.

[@criticalevent]

There's Waymo, a true full self driving company that has been transporting passengers for years and is losing money doing it. Elon is either delusional or, more likely, he hopes Tesla shareholders continue to be delusional.

[@mddell24]

ELON would never ride in a FSD if the drive said "And I am going to close my eyes the full way, let's go :) " Bet ELON the "Amazing" would never doit - scared rabbit moment. It's a challenge ELON, ELON. You got guts or you got brains?. Hahahahahah Bet he picks brains when it comes to his own life.

[@matten_zero]

Elon really has gone off the deep end. I used to think it was cool but how he's pushing against his engineers to build basically pipedreams like boring and hyperloop (pun intended) is insane and the fact Cathy Wood and others believe this stuff is insane.

[@tibbydudeza]

We need big dreamers but also good engineers who can make it a reality. It reminds me of the iPod. Toshiba came to an Apple engineer and showed him a prototype 1 inch drive they had no idea what to use for it was neat but too small for a laptop. Jobs saw it and said I can now carry all my songs in my pocket. They shipped it with iTunes a year and a bit later ... no empty promises or tweet or next year. It worked the first day out of the box as promised.

[@matten_zero]

@@tibbydudeza the difference between Jobs and Elon is Jobs never pretended to be an engineer and deferred to his engineers. Elon is neither an engineer or a designer. Hell he didn't even design the Tesla.

[@tibbydudeza]

@@matten_zero yes it was the role of the Woz but he had the vision how it should look and the customer experience d it The big picture ... he for example would not have balked at using Lidar but would have hated the way the Waymo cars looked. He would have pushed his engineers to make as part of the car design .

[@LynnnnnnnnnN]

​@@matten_zeroI just saw a video where Musk said he was an engineer 🤭 I don't know the truth but Ima go with what you said 😎

[@PonziZombieKiller]

Theu are all in on "it" ! Green Kool-Aid for all ! Government Enforced Utopia ! Lord help us... lmfao

[@tatata1543]

A bus hold around fifty people so instead of one bus at peak times we are going to have 50 cabs?Good luck getting anywhere in that traffic.

[@mddell24]

Ever since the days of horse and cart, at least 2 seats but mostly more, people would sit on the tray (the flat bit for goods). Some early cars had multiple rows of seats and some had seats in what is now called the trunk - called the "dicky seat". And people were slim, so the "bench" seat could have 3 or 4 people across. Ahhh, the days of no seat belts. A Horse and buggy was equivalent to todays 2 door sports car.

[@alexpkeaton4471]

You will have to buy a Tesla robot to clean the puke and/or trash out of your Tesla robotaxi.

[@nicholas5396]

😂

[@dong9514]

Excuse me, I have to call the robo toliet"

[@WoolfJ35]

Millions of 2 door taxis on the road to transport a single person at a time, there's no way that could possibly be bad for traffic right? Lol what idiots

[@JAMESWUERTELE]

When I ride my motorcycle, I stay as far away from Teslas as possible.

[@chow-chihuang4903]

Sadly, several motorcyclists have been killed by Teslas on assisted driving, probably because they lack a true distance-measuring capability, so you’re justified in staying away from them. I do the same when I ride my bicycle and I notice a Tesla approaching via my side mirrors. I’ve seen several demonstration clips where the vehicle suddenly veers towards an unsuspecting bicyclist it’s approaching and the driver has to grab the wheel and steer away. I hate we’re all exposed to a giant beta test without informed consent.

[@mddell24]

I stay away when i park my car (shopping centre...). Just, do not want to get unlucky.

[@Nun195]

Teslas love the taste of motorbikes.

[@softwarephil1709]

Imagine drunks and punks riding unsupervised in a robotaxi. What could go wrong? 🤷‍♂️

[@mddell24]

I'm thinking drunks, punks and plain angries outside of the X-taxi. Can it and passengers survive? I will not be using unless snow and blizzard persist.

[@matten_zero]

Elon Musk as a part time CEO wants a $50 B bonus while destroying the value of his company at the same time. Dude is off his rocker

[@realchris]

I really hope they publicly disclose the final vote tally.

[@HEAVENTWA]

56 B, I think I heard a number of times.

[@Nex_gen04]

@@realchris the payout is at the cost of shareholders, meaning selling 56 billion worth of stock ? Or is it a transference of shares from the current large holders in the company to Elon ? Or is it a further issuance of shares ?

[@mikapeltokorpi7671]

For perspective: Tesla's lifetime (20 year) net profits are not reaching $56 billion.

[@matten_zero]

@@Nex_gen04 from what I understand they will print stock for him and dilute investors that's why everyone will vote no.

[@Mojaveknight17]

I predict failure ahead

[@BillAnt]

Tesla pumpers are probably jerking off right now at this news.... hahaha

[@PonziZombieKiller]

Definitely. The short squeeze is On !

[@springer-qb4dv]

@@PonziZombieKiller Definitely, i predict Musk fanboys aging like milk ahead! LOL

[@mddell24]

Agreed. Ever since I realized all the hyped claims of range, charging ... I felt this is really a scam. Most people would want/like EVs if they were reasonable, but they are far from reasonable. I see big class actions. No one can get anything like the range if you are told "Please don't use the last 20% of battery and pls be careful charging the top 20% ... and the heater may (HA) decrease range and AC will drain range ... and cold weather ... ". A WOPING BIG deception.

[@alexmack956]

@@mddell24best selling car in the world 🤡

[@LynnnnnnnnnN]

It costs a couple bucks to ride the bus. How cheap will a robotaxi ride cost?

[@larryo6874]

I think Musk would have been smarter to go with the 25K Tesla. The August robotaxi show I think will just be a pretty mockup of what the car will supposedly look like but since FSD is only level 2 a REAL robotaxi is a long ways off and would most likely have an exorbitant price that few people could pay for (lidar is expensive 🤗). Musk is just trying to pump up the stock with these robotaxi announcements while Tesla is going downhill.

[@realchris]

My best guess is there wasn't any movies he liked that has cheap cars. But he loves movies with robotaxis, haha. Sadly this is how his mind works.

[@willklemm509]

I think the robo taxi is just going to be a shiny distraction to get more investment money

[@FizzleFX]

3:45 good public transpport system would *solve US traffic easily* ... - and then you don't have to sit TWO HOURS in your robo taxi (and watch the meter go big)

[@2LegHumanist]

The expectation that you could achieve level 5 with cameras and a neural network on the grounds that humans have eyes and brains, demonstrates that Musk has only a superficial understanding of AI. Artificial neural networks are a very poor analogue of biological neural networks. He has forced the company down this road due to pure hubris and ignorance.

[@PonziZombieKiller]

Yeap. He is too stoned....

[@chow-chihuang4903]

Plus we also use our other senses when driving, and our eyes provide some form of distance gauging due to their very shallow depth of field and much higher resolution in their narrow field of view, unlike fixed focus cameras with much lower resolution.

[@2LegHumanist]

@chow-chihuang4903 That's all true, but we also rely heavily on our general knowledge of the world, how it works and we can build world models in our heads to predict what will happen. And even more significant is our ability to extrapolate. Humans don't have to be explicitly trained forvevery narrowly defined situation we can find ourselves in on the road. We can solve edge cases on the fly. Machine learning models can't do that. They have to be trained in advance and there is no amount of data Tesla could gather and process that will cover all of the edge cases. Tesla could run 1 billion cars for 10k years and they'd still barely be scratching the surface.

[@smccarthy945]

Exactly. You will never get level 5 with just cameras. You need LiDAR.

[@2LegHumanist]

@smccarthy945 Lidar, 3d mapping, geofencing etc all help to constrain the problem space, but Waymo etc havent solved it either. They still have ro regularly intervene, they just do it remotely.

[@criticalevent]

There is only one possibility for an actual robotaxi being on that stage in August, and that's if he licensed or copied a Waymo car with LIDAR. If that happens, then I hope the lawyers building the FSD class action suits spring into action, because every Tesla owner who was suckered into buying that will finally be able to say it was not delivered and never will be.

[@jamesevans8520]

Elon is the shitty gift nobody wants ,every year…🎉

[@socialroachco]

Elon isn't stupid ...he's evil!!

[@springer-qb4dv]

Musk is stupid (and evil). He will not realize it until he has nice rent free room and board at camp fed. LOL

[@mddell24]

Maybe more naive than evil but it can seem that way, I feel not his fault. One day he may lookback and wonder, just like us.

[@DarwinsChihuahua]

He's also stupid.

[@kurniawanms2]

why not both? evil and stupid

[@cherubin7th]

What would be awesome, a robo taxi where you put your luggage in and it drives you to the air port, but the luggage gets directly moved to the plane, you don't have to take it out and hand it over. Some train stations do this already.

[@necro_nemesis]

Drones can take off, fly around and land on their own but yet no one wants to use them for transportation without pilots out front with skin in the game. I would say it's important to appreciate the difference between putting trust in a replaceable disposable piece of tech versus another human. If the airline industry could cut out the cost of employing pilots I'm sure they would. Beyond the novelty, is this ultimately what people want?

[@tibbydudeza]

I watch the combat footage from Ukraine and sometimes you see a lone Russian soldier most likely a conscript running away while a FPV suicide drone is stalking him and boom. It is justified if you a combatant and dont surrender but still. They not yet automated like the hunter killers from Terminator but as capable platforms became cheaper and faster it gives me worried vibes.

[@necro_nemesis]

@@tibbydudeza The pumpers are predicting unmanned Ferrari's running up and down the autobahn but the design work appears more akin to golf kart.

[@petersuvara]

@@tibbydudeza consumer drones can easily smash into many obstacles they are very slow and cumbersome. Auto tracking fails often in many conditions with reflective surfaces. Military drones offer a number of auto pilot features, but there’s always a driver of the drone quite a while away.

[@o__sama]

I worked for someone who kept pushing for crypto, ML & is talking about infinite compression algorithms, the business was in ecommerce and was going well and I was offered 15% because I was basically carrying the company, but I left because I knew long term it was never going to work out because the boss is an idiot.

[@patricaomas8750]

Roasting Farzed you're cooking low hanging low-hanging fruit.

[@Kleyworks]

Klaus is a similar clown and they will keep trying

[@nat9909]

What do I do when my robotaxi comes home with a dead homeless person stuffed in the trunk? Should I report that to my insurance company, or am I responsible for the disposal costs? What if it comes back with a violent felon hiding in the back seat? Can I "stand my ground" or should I call the police if it isn't 2 late? Nothing like your robotaxi coming home late at night, parking itself in the garage, and then hearing a door slam and footsteps in the kitchen heading to your bedroom at 3 am.

[@miguelmonte5157]

is it weird that last year, a 12k tesla emplyment offering got like 3 million applicants? are all those applicants absolute idiots? asking for a friend

[@kkent4174]

Chris did you ever check out Thunderf00t? Can you do a video on his latest video? Exposing Musk even more since last 10 yeara

[@realchris]

I'll just say this, Thunder is subscribed to my channel. Appreciate you watching both of us :)

[@millabasset1710]

Wouldn't it make more sense to invest in sophisticated bullet trains over 30 years instead of self driving cars? Imagine maintaining billions of self driving vehicles and maintaining the technology in the roads in every little city. This sounds like fantasy land.

[@davidsc4680]

😂😂😂this is so sad. I'm a long term shareholder in TSLA and I'm sitting on a 1400% value increase in my shares. Of course I'm happy. I'm sorry guys if you bought at the peak, but you know what? Do just like me and be patient; you'll be rewarded big. Stop cryin, haters!!

[@tibbydudeza]

So Johnnie Cab and The Fifth Element (Multipass) flying taxis we are not going to see it ever ??? :(.

[@parkerjon29]

Do robotaxis defy the laws of physics? Do they not take up space? You can't take everyone off buses and trains and put them in robotaxis. There just isn't space for them. Not to mention how annoying that would be.

[@nicholashylton6857]

He thinks eliminating public mass transit is a good idea. And as an 80s teen as well, I think he is subconsciously trying to replicate the looks of sci-fi from back then.

[@antonzadorozhniy6605]

You've nailed it, this cab design is very stupid. For specialized cab you want something like London cab: tall design for easy entry/exit, more vertical sitting position comfortable for any age and clothing, more space inside so you can ride with your luggage. And for any large city, rides to airport/train station are bread and butter of any taxi company, so this thing just leaves this whole market on a table.

[@tibbydudeza]

Also London taxi cab drivers need to pass the test ... need to know any route the shortest way around London without using a GPS

[@jerzyczajaszwajcer]

ye he ditched lidar and that was detrimental no fsd (recently changed to supervised) even in 2030 it won't work :p

[@xlselektor]

So robo taxi isn't update for actual tesla? Hmmm false advertising and lied stakeholders??

[@onsokumaru4663]

They haven't even produced the roadster they promised almost a decade ago. I'm surprised they legally got away with that considering the $50k deposits they stole from their customers

[@xlselektor]

@@onsokumaru4663 Ofcourse:)

[@simpromovie]

No actual tesla will be even able to go above maybe a limited Level 3....The hardware ist simply not capable to do so...

[@vashkarpalma8165]

Usual elon MO

[@chow-chihuang4903]

And there is no way any time soon it will be able to hold enough energy storage to achieve the claimed range. Such basic math eludes cultists.

[@jsvideos2261]

Rideshare scooter tossing competitions at the park are popular where I live. What sports might people come-up with for these "RoboTaxis"?

[@alexpkeaton4471]

"Identify the mystery stain" and "What's that smell?" aren't technically sports but I'm sure they will be the most common activities.

[@schrodingersjet1043]

Musk doesn't care about an economically priced EV because Musk doesn't give a flying fig about people of modest means. His attitude toward public transportation proves that, if there's any doubt. The most generous thing we can say is Musk cares about the top 25% of society, but that's a stretch.

[@ionlyemergeafterdark]

I agree that Musk seems to be dominated by 1980's Science Fiction but he seems to forget that SF is escapist fiction. Fiction.

[@richardcoughlin8931]

Everything Chris says about Robotaxi rings true. As the owner of a Tesla Model Y 😵‍💫 I’ve had enough experience with Autopilot and a month free trial of “full” self driving I can tell you from first hand experience that the technology isn’t there yet. I predict Robotaxi will end up replacing the human drivers on what was supposed to be a Hyperloop prototype in Las Vegas. In other words, it will be basically the same as the autonomous pods that have operated at the Dallas Fort Worth airport for many years.

[@realchris]

See this if you haven't too. I talk more about what's in the book. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpC4ZnWViNGahrc

[@realchris]

And regarding the robotaxi stuff, it's funny bc the book describes some key info that for whatever reason his stock promoters don't address.

[@JohnStrange-q8r]

Should be called vapourtaxi or ponzitaxi.

[@tibbydudeza]

Don't worry we will still getting sexbots but there is a 1 in 10 chance of loosing your friend due to a mishap 😂

[@PonziZombieKiller]

Heal yeah !

[@houtexflex]

There is absolutly no way a robo taxi can be cheaper than a bus. When you ride the bus you are giving up time (hours per day) in exchange for a very cheep ride. A robo taxi would somehow have to save riders time AND money.

[@springer-qb4dv]

When I am on a bus, I just pull out my laptop and do work. So no, I am not giving up time to save money. And yes there is no way a robo-taxi can be as cheap as bus ($2 per ride in major US cities) - even charging much more, most robo-taxi operations are losing money big time.

[@FlintReadUK]

A bus can carry 30-60 people at a time thus relieving congestion on the roads. the answer is not two person cars and more of them the answer is more busses and bus routes. And make them publicly owned companies so you're not beholden to ever increasing fares because of shareholder greed, The service simply needs to continue to exist for it's users. The clue is in the name "Public transport".

[@trucksanddirt1506]

Waymo does 50,000 paid rides per week, soon to be 200,000 and growing. Waymo will be doing 1 Million paid rides per week in 2-3 years and Tesla will still be talking of Robotaxis.

[@ev3141]

No steering wheel or controls = death trap. 😅

[@patricaomas8750]

Roasting Farzed you're cooking low-hanging fruit

[@farleymarly2575]

Tesla robo taxi, another tax payer funded scam. Brought you by Elon musk 😜

[@danlowe8684]

Chris, you said what I think all the time listening to fanboys at 5:40: "I can't take too much more..." LOL. They can't solve phantom braking problems, but they are going full Robotaxi for the 10th year running.

[@nicholasripp386]

You just crushed my dream of running Walmart 😢

[@realchris]

Don't worry there will be an opening for CEO at Tesla soon :)

[@iq-nj4xg]

They will NOT be cheaper than the bus!

[@PonziZombieKiller]

Im waiting for the bus. Elon will not deliver...

[@vincentorlando6767]

Chris, maybe a episode on the authorized bio of Elon Musk. It would be interesting. Whenever I see an "authorized bio" done with approval, cooperation, review of the person being written about, I don't believe the content 100%

[@CharlesWells-fd2ib]

NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THIS CAR BEING A 3 WHEELER

[@realchris]

You think it’s gonna be three?

[@simpromovie]

I think the problem for many is to differentiate between what Musk has archived already (and pushing EVs + infrastructure to the current level is an achievement) and the pipe dreams that are completely unrealistic and nonsense. Many think if this guy can create EVs and rockets that are landing again he can do everything....

[@darinmckee2320]

I would pay $ to watch Elon get roasted! His ego get destroyed! Because he's a 🤡

[@springer-qb4dv]

Yup, Musk has no clue what he is talking about. 10 years of "SAE level 5 full self driving coming next year". Who is dumb enough to believe Musk anymore? Dummy fanboys! LOL

[@JeanPierreWhite]

Musk's vision about vision and AI for FSD is fundamentally correct. Where he has a literal blindspot is that Tesla vehicles put the cameras on the exterior of the vehicle that can get dirty/occluded. When I point this out to Musk fans they claim it's an easy problem to solve. So if it's easy how come Tesla hasn't solved it? You can't convince me that they haven't considered the issue. For vision to work it has to work in the same way as human vision works. i.e. cameras have to be mounted *inside* the cabin where human eyes are, protected from the elements. Then it is analogous to a human on the inside looking out. Only the forward facing cameras are inside the cabin and have a way to clean them if they get dirty. All the other cameras have to be mounted inside. This would be expensive, which is why Tesla hasn't done it. In addition to dirt, the cameras also need a sunshade. As humans we use the visor or a hand to block out harsh sun that blinds us. Tesla cameras often get blinded by the sun and FSD will indicate its degraded or turn off altogether due to a camera being blinded by the sun. This too can be solved. It just hasn't been done and there is no indication from Tesla they acknowledge the problem and/or are working on it. Until the FSD software is truly capable of level 5 autonomy, Tesla won't develop sensors that are self-cleaning or have a sunshade. despite what Musk said about the Model 3 having the hardware to support full autonomy. Its clear Tesla know that's not the case but won't waste time on the sensors until the system is fully functional.

[@springer-qb4dv]

The problem is much more than just camera which is inadequate monocular vision. FSD computer is basically on the same level of intelligence as a slug. FSD computer does not have generalized strong intelligence of human brain which can make sense of everything around them and form a coherent world view. What's more there is extremely serious problem of FSD computer hallucination which can cause catastrophic failures. This is the reason why most other companies with real working robo-taxis employ lidars (and radars) to validate vision. Until Tesla has lidars, it will never be operational robo-taxi no matter what Musk/fanboys claim. So no, Musk is totally wrong and heading towards a dead end. Musk has dug a massive hole for himself having built millions of guaranteed "robo-taxi" ready Tesla cars, and there is no way out.

[@JeanPierreWhite]

@@springer-qb4dv Lidar is just like superman eyes. It does nothing for deciding what to do in a certain situation. Say you could see so much better than you can now. Would it make you a better drive. Marginally maybe, but not worth writing home about. Another way to think about it is that a teenager may have excellent eyesight, but is a poor driver until they get experience. Vision does NOT make you a good driver. Lidar is simply good are perceiving reality. Nothing more. FSD drives poorly because it's like a teenager. It does not have the experience to make smart decisions. That will come with time. Probably a lot of time. You maybe right in order for FSD to drive very well it will need much better on board computing capability. The idea Mus has floated that Model 3's have the hardware they need for full autonomy is speculative at best.

[@superdoobo]

I like Johnnycab!

[@Filmstarindamaking]

I like the self-driving car from the movie Upgrade. I know that car doesn’t exist but neither does Elon’s version. I like that at least he is thinking about the future of travel. Where would we be if all the inventions we saw as kids in the cartoon The Jetsons if someone didn’t imagine that it could happen? I happy we have the cell phone, moving sidewalks at the airport and some train stations, and eventually self-driving cars.

[@smccarthy945]

There is no robotaxi and never will be.

[@lexlayabout5757]

There isn't room for any more cars (including robot taxis) in UK cities.

[@kellymoses8566]

All this breathless anticipation for Musk's robotaxis reminds me of all the people waiting for the world to end.

[@endlessawareness]

I have brought this issue up to Tesla investors hoping to have a dialogue but I find the fact that there is no steering wheel in the robotaxi as a real potential problem. If it dies, how are you going to move what will essentially be a brick. If anyone has a reason as to why there is no steering wheel, please let me know.

[@Mojaveknight17]

We need robo maids for the laundry and the cleaning

[@larryo6874]

And gourmet cooking…

[@tibbydudeza]

Sure sure ... sex as well 😂

[@thirdrockjul2224]

Live in reality. 👍

[@putnamehereholdmadoodle]

How do they fall for this, it seems when you gave made your fame and fourtube from shilling for a documented scamer and liar. Nothing is off limits.

[@rickb2432]

Quick question…how ffs does Elmo Mush make his 💩 throw away cars any cheaper? The materials used in the interiors are the cheapest looking crap I’ve ever seen in a car. The fitment is horrid.

[@GovernmentFails]

uber costs about $3/minute and they LSOE money but I've hired private taxis for $2/min and they weren't really making money. 8.6% of the uber price is labor at their average pay of $17.36/hr. The res tis the app, gas, tires, maintenance, insurance, etc.

[@smccarthy945]

It’s the same thing as a guy with a bicycle with a 2 person seat.

[@martincday007]

So the genius idea is to build a customised two seater RoboTaxi. Don't the economics of building vehicles come in part with volume? Niche vehicles sold in low volume tend to be expensive. This seems to be one person's assumption based on some Tesla presentation promotion put together to convince Tesla shareholders that Musk reward should be higher than Tesla's entire profits to date, so needs to be taken with a pinch of salt, although it is the sort of idea that would come from Musk. Seriously, FSD-Supervised is going to be released as a RoboTaxi without a steering wheel? That is like believing StarShip 5 will be landing on the moon. Anyone that argues that taxis are more efficient and less expensive than busses needs to point to the source data they are basing that on. Busses and Trains are the most efficient mass transport systems, taxis good for short individual routes. If the Las Vegas loop swapped out their non-autonomous fleet of Teslas for electric busses that could fit through the tunnel, they would probably improve the volume and reduce the operating cost. I am so looking forward to see the Tesla RoboTaxi presentation in October/November/December, the smoke and mirrors and heavy use of CGI is going to be fun to watch.

[@GySgt213]

Tesla couldn't get their rental car deals to work and their truck fleet is not doing that great either. The pumpers hyped these and are now slient on them.

[@aircraftmech123456]

Cyber TAXI will happen! :) it will take you from airport terminal to parking garage! :) kinda like the Boring tunnel in Vegas.

[@chow-chihuang4903]

And those still require human drivers! If the assisted driving systems can’t handle a routine fixed route like a tunnel system with passenger pickup/dropoff stations, why are they allowed to be used on public roads?

[@mikespence8895]

Tesla shorts are getting burned and I just shaved 37k profits off my portfolio from tesla. Keep hating.

[@GregoryGrant-ze3bd]

I want to hear the truth. But I agree few people do.

[@RabatinLLC]

Got a Tesla ad to vote on 3 and 4 for Elon

[@frankallen3634]

No state would allow a car with no steering wheel brakes or pedals.

[@PonziZombieKiller]

Elon is definitely not John Galt

[@daveandjanwoolf8078]

Cheaper than the bus? Here in the UK most of us who are retired travel the bus for free!

[@chow-chihuang4903]

And some cities provide all mass transit fare-free because they consider it a public service like public roads and sidewalks instead of a profit center, and it reduces traffic congestion. They basically save themselves and their riders the cost and hassle of a fare collection system. I used the heck out of the complimentary shuttle bus service at my college. The only issue was limited hours on weekends.

[@florianbuerzle2703]

Heck, I haven’t used a regular taxi in almost a decade 😂 Even if those robotaxis were a thing, and if they’d make it through regeluations, there’s one simple question Elon still has to answer - would running a robotaxi company be a sustainable business model?

[@wbwarren57]

Video Suggestion: Please check in every so often how Elon is doing against all of the (fake) promises he made in the lead up to getting his $56B compensation vote. I think such a video will be screamingly funny.

[@jkmsaturn]

We are going to Mars! Does Mars want us? We want robots driving people? Do people want cars driving them?

[@springer-qb4dv]

Musk fanboys are going to Mars on one way trip, but not most sane people. LOL

[@kellymoses8566]

The most important thing is that Tesla FSD is no where near good enough to be used for robotaxis

[@Maxxmentum]

Here's the thing. Auto drive does not have the track record to warrant removal of controls. Things like drive-by wire, automatic transmissions, elevators. They all have a damn near flawless track record. The percentage of failure is so remote that you can pretty much trust them. Auto drive doesn't even have close to that. It's in its infancy. Elon doesn't seem to understand this, engineering is hard, technology is easier. It's been proven. In fact technology gets better the more you do it. I'm not ignoring what Elon and his vision has done for the electric vehicle. But dude get some perspective.

[@ivantuma7969]

We all run into optical illusions in the road surface ... there's no AI that can make a decision based solely on stereoscopic vision. Humans move their heads around, make decisions based on past experience on the road (or they simply just run over the prairie dog rather than running into something worse :D). That was really just ignorance of the capability of his own products not to include lidar.

[@LiftingDonuts]

He is also wrong about Battery Swap...

[@natewesley8507]

I’m just glad there are still some people out there that aren’t afraid to speak truth to Elon thank you brother what you do is greatly appreciated oh and p.s. your wife is one hundred percent correct they are stupid liars

[@realchris]

Always listen to the wife :)

[@primekry3747]

You do realize that they designing this first robot taxi vehicle to satisfy the majority of usage first right? Look at the data that released by Uber where most usage are for 1 to 2 people.

[@charles-ul9uo]

a complete con job. all vaporware.

[@MirceaGoia]

This guy, Farzad, looks like he never visited Europe, Asia or even South America. Or probably not even New York. To see that people would take the bus, metro, tramway, train and such. And the cities would prefer less cars inside of them (electric or not).

[@realchris]

Yep, that's exactly it and their audience is the same. I'll make a video about the subway here in Busan just for the Tesla fan boys and girls.

[@origaminefretami3480]

Farzad has to be paid by Elon

[@Raventerp01]

Hey Chris, would love to get your thoughts on the next gen/low cost car. Reuters had reported that it was scrapped and then Musk stated it was actually being accelerated. Would love to know what is going on there. Thanks!

[@chow-chihuang4903]

That would be helpful as nothing I’ve seen them share would take a skilled CAD or Photoshop user more than an hour (the digital greyscale renderings) to a week of effort (the “photorealistic” 3D renderings), and wouldn’t be able to produce more than a non-functional aesthetic model.

[@SpineGevity]

Teslas have at least 8 cameras - not just “2 eyes” The CEO of NVIDIA just said AI video learning is legit and is self-driving with recent versions having near-zero interventions. The vehicles will have plenty of cargo space to carry luggage. LiDAR is not cost effective compared to AI learning. I appreciate your perspective and “truth telling.” I don’t care about Musk, but I do appreciate cost efficiency and cost effectiveness. I’m sick of changing out gasoline transmissions, oil changes, spark plugs, engine coolant, etc. Steve Jobs was also eccentric and personally flawed. He was also told by engineers “it’s impossible.” I don’t have to be a fan boy or cult follower, or a climate activist to notice effective innovation. It’s just logic and mega trends. If you can demonstrate something is multiple times safer than a human being, then it will eventually disrupt. If it can not be demonstrated, then it will remain as simply a bunch of sleek EVs that are the best selling car in the world. All the giant OEMs are attempting to produce profitable EV vehicles. Some will eventually become profitable. Most will fail and have to double down on ICE manufacturing because they realize they are too far behind Tesla to ever compete in the EV sector. Maybe I’m blind.Maybe you are blind? Time will tell

[@sirbum1918]

Just think if all buses, trams and subways were replaced by Rob taxis... If you look up stupid that guy will be there staring back at you.