Best savage replies given to the person who always presenting fake data .Hats off to you mam
@Rahul0202Bhatt3 жыл бұрын
With 10yrs of experience if you are on bench for even 2months there's a high risk that this thing is going to happen. 7months is way too much.
@ZoldicsDiaries3 ай бұрын
companies would love that you sacrifice your personal life for them- such as dont get married, dont have children- so that you dedicate all your free time to that company and make them more money-its we have to realise not to fall into their trap- we must have our own family, personal lives, spouses, children- and live a more fulfilling life- we did not took birth to make some corporate companies rich, mind this very very carefully. Bcause nowdays i am seeing people- waiting till 30s, to get married-for god knows what reason- you wont get any better deal folks- just marry the person with whom you are with- capitalism would love that you never have a relationship, and even if you marry- you quickly get divorce- bcause it doubles down on growth of all these companies, since now the demand became double- so capitalism incentivize divorces- we have to be aware of this also- the big businesses never want to have everything or even have fulfilling life.
@007Sanoop3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Software Professional. I'm following a motto, "Sincere to the work, not to the business company". Because we are focused on our work, that helps the business/company to build something they cant. If the businesses/company interferes us in our career path with their plans like, taking advantage from us, avoiding/disgusting us, etc.., then talk immediately and express our attitude. There are many teams around the world with ethics & good culture, where we get appreciation & motivation for our work. Always try to do our work without expecting rewards. And always try to upgrade our existing skills & acquire new skills in our profession.
@saumyadip113 жыл бұрын
Well said
@ZoldicsDiaries3 ай бұрын
and no company is your family- get out of company as soon as you get better offer
@ZoldicsDiaries3 ай бұрын
companies would love that you sacrifice your personal life for them- such as dont get married, dont have children- so that you dedicate all your free time to that company and make them more money-its we have to realise not to fall into their trap- we must have our own family, personal lives, spouses, children- and live a more fulfilling life- we did not took birth to make some corporate companies rich, mind this very very carefully.
@WorkWizdom3 жыл бұрын
This is the dark side of corporate world, that's why don't stick to one company. Switch jobs in 5 years atleast
@MrCoolRibhu3 жыл бұрын
That needs two things: 1. Skill and initiative to upgrade it and 2. Confidence on your skill
@WorkWizdom3 жыл бұрын
@@MrCoolRibhu - that goes without saying. Skill upgrade is required to survive however getting stuck with one company for decades can result in stagnation
@josheversmann13763 жыл бұрын
I agree man, that's a golden key for all private employees to not to be jobless.
@aksmnnit3 жыл бұрын
5 years is too long, with every appraisal one should target to switch to get promotion and a 30-100 % hike
@ZoldicsDiaries3 ай бұрын
companies would love that you sacrifice your personal life for them- such as dont get married, dont have children- so that you dedicate all your free time to that company and make them more money-its we have to realise not to fall into their trap- we must have our own family, personal lives, spouses, children- and live a more fulfilling life- we did not took birth to make some corporate companies rich, mind this very very carefully. Bcause nowdays i am seeing people- waiting till 30s, to get married-for god knows what reason- you wont get any better deal folks- just marry the person with whom you are with- capitalism would love that you never have a relationship, and even if you marry- you quickly get divorce- bcause it doubles down on growth of all these companies, since now the demand became double- so capitalism incentivize divorces- we have to be aware of this also- the big businesses never want to have everything or even have fulfilling life.
@PuneetKumar-nz2st3 жыл бұрын
If a company has made up their mind to let you go, there is nothing in fighting for your job. They left you! So accept it and move forward. Love your skills, dont love your company. Company can you just let you go and leave you.. your skills won't. Being on bench for 9 months shows that you are not required. So professionally you should have seen it coming.
@Omnamahshivay80793 жыл бұрын
You make a cogent point punnet. But , jobs like relationships are difficult to let go off
@PuneetKumar-nz2st3 жыл бұрын
@@Omnamahshivay8079 then you are either not taking it professionally, or attaching yourself which is again wrong. I understand scarcity of jobs leads to this fear. Creating employment is in hands of govt, so again, next time you vote, keep the "employment" angle in mind instead of caste or religion.
@shark4sk3 жыл бұрын
@@PuneetKumar-nz2st True
@redbaron243 жыл бұрын
True
@nagp76503 жыл бұрын
@@PuneetKumar-nz2st well said 👍 & also keep it in mind population control also
@abhishekbishwas57313 жыл бұрын
Hats off to the brave lady, capgemini should fire there HRs immediately and also take legal action against them as they are ruining the Company's reputation
@PrasunRoyPlus3 жыл бұрын
The brave lady was enjoying the bench for 7 months when thousands of her fellow employees were working hard at low wages to pay her salary. She is not a fresher, rather she is enjoying a fat salary at 8 years experience. Of course all HRs in IT companies should be terminated as well because they do not serve any purpose. A capable HR would have interacted with her within 2 months of unallocation and given her a warning, then followed up with warnings after every 2 months. Their mistake was that they never intervened before and straightaway went to the last step of termination.
@Saurabhtiwary333 жыл бұрын
@@PrasunRoyPlus The brave lady was not willingly on bench period. In service based companies, they allocate the project to their employee themselves, most of the time randomly without even considering the technology stack they are trained in and this goes for freshers as well as experienced peeps.So its not an employees fault that they have been kept on bench period for such a long duration even. If you can't even this simple thing into your head, then god bless you
@PrasunRoyPlus3 жыл бұрын
@@Saurabhtiwary33 If you want to do the work of your choice and do not want to be allocated to projects randomly, then do not join a service based company. You cannot join a meat packing company and then don't do your job because you are vegetarian. Should have thought about it before joining.
@abhishekkumar-os5zk3 жыл бұрын
@@PrasunRoyPlus I think she was logical at every point and those who join meat industry being vegetarian themselves are liars.
@snigdhapal95523 жыл бұрын
@@abhishekkumar-os5zk She has been working in the industry for 8 years. Do you mean to say she is still unaware of how the industry works. If she is on bench for 8 months, then I am glad that she got fired. I am tired of these parasites sucking the blood of hard working people.
@SapphireTvYt3 жыл бұрын
When downsizing it company, 50% hr should go first. Then other people who were directly responsible. Coz without human resources what is a point of HR manager in company anyway.
@ZoldicsDiaries3 ай бұрын
companies would love that you sacrifice your personal life for them- such as dont get married, dont have children- so that you dedicate all your free time to that company and make them more money-its we have to realise not to fall into their trap- we must have our own family, personal lives, spouses, children- and live a more fulfilling life- we did not took birth to make some corporate companies rich, mind this very very carefully. Bcause nowdays i am seeing people- waiting till 30s, to get married-for god knows what reason- you wont get any better deal folks- just marry the person with whom you are with- capitalism would love that you never have a relationship, and even if you marry- you quickly get divorce- bcause it doubles down on growth of all these companies, since now the demand became double- so capitalism incentivize divorces- we have to be aware of this also- the big businesses never want to have everything or even have fulfilling life.
@RaveSharrma3 жыл бұрын
Wow! The way lady defended herself is commendable!!
@ARUNPESHIN3 жыл бұрын
Been there done that, one suggestion just be calm and composed. Understand the situation and be specific. Its a job that too private, you can find another one if you are capable.
@ZoldicsDiaries3 ай бұрын
companies would love that you sacrifice your personal life for them- such as dont get married, dont have children- so that you dedicate all your free time to that company and make them more money-its we have to realise not to fall into their trap- we must have our own family, personal lives, spouses, children- and live a more fulfilling life- we did not took birth to make some corporate companies rich, mind this very very carefully. Bcause nowdays i am seeing people- waiting till 30s, to get married-for god knows what reason- you wont get any better deal folks- just marry the person with whom you are with- capitalism would love that you never have a relationship, and even if you marry- you quickly get divorce- bcause it doubles down on growth of all these companies, since now the demand became double- so capitalism incentivize divorces- we have to be aware of this also- the big businesses never want to have everything or even have fulfilling life.
@simpleperson35173 жыл бұрын
It is sad that lay offs take place but that is a part of this sector. It is really commendable that the employee put forth her points in a clear manner with total composure and assertiveness. I am pretty sure she would have gotten a better job.
@awesomebachpan3 жыл бұрын
Clear and to the point...
@RobsVlogs3 жыл бұрын
Where was the total composure?
@rajadhirajmaharaj3 жыл бұрын
@@awesomebachpan are you the employee or the HR? anyway, how much do these employees and hrS GET PAID?
@ZoldicsDiaries3 ай бұрын
companies would love that you sacrifice your personal life for them- such as dont get married, dont have children- so that you dedicate all your free time to that company and make them more money-its we have to realise not to fall into their trap- we must have our own family, personal lives, spouses, children- and live a more fulfilling life- we did not took birth to make some corporate companies rich, mind this very very carefully. Bcause nowdays i am seeing people- waiting till 30s, to get married-for god knows what reason- you wont get any better deal folks- just marry the person with whom you are with- capitalism would love that you never have a relationship, and even if you marry- you quickly get divorce- bcause it doubles down on growth of all these companies, since now the demand became double- so capitalism incentivize divorces- we have to be aware of this also- the big businesses never want to have everything or even have fulfilling life.
@legoplu3 жыл бұрын
Two people trying to counter one lady and failing. She just walked out of that shit like a boss.
@ZoldicsDiaries3 ай бұрын
companies would love that you sacrifice your personal life for them- such as dont get married, dont have children- so that you dedicate all your free time to that company and make them more money-its we have to realise not to fall into their trap- we must have our own family, personal lives, spouses, children- and live a more fulfilling life- we did not took birth to make some corporate companies rich, mind this very very carefully. Bcause nowdays i am seeing people- waiting till 30s, to get married-for god knows what reason- you wont get any better deal folks- just marry the person with whom you are with- capitalism would love that you never have a relationship, and even if you marry- you quickly get divorce- bcause it doubles down on growth of all these companies, since now the demand became double- so capitalism incentivize divorces- we have to be aware of this also- the big businesses never want to have everything or even have fulfilling life.
@raghureddy29353 жыл бұрын
When project not there, HR, Manger frames employee bad. That is cunning tactics used by company.
@vvkhari14 жыл бұрын
Damn. These hr and authoritative people in IT are thorns in the company. Trash management helps none.
@vishalrajput98563 жыл бұрын
My HR also threatened me in the same company, and I said to him do whatever you like, I will do what I'm passionate about, it has hardly been two years and I'm already in a great position in my career.
@chetanbangera26403 жыл бұрын
In short never ever think of working for a company for long time company uses us for their benifit so we should always use company for our benifit such as self improvement then do business for own benifit there is a saying Rent ka ghar tab tak aacha hai jab tak kudh ka ghar na hoo Waise he job tab tak aacha hai jab tak kudh ka business na hoo
@aditya-garg3 жыл бұрын
Well said, best to switch companies in 3 to 4 year span.
@EldhoseJoseph3 жыл бұрын
@@aditya-garg also, switching companies comes with Great benefits as generally companies give pennies as increment whereas one may get 50-120% spike in compensation just by negotiation in new company. Just that one need to be at par in ones own domain in industry level not company level only.
@spaci10103 жыл бұрын
Whatever ppl may think but 7 month on bench for an 8 yr experience resource is not an ignorable..
@aditya-garg3 жыл бұрын
Well what do you say to 3 months bench for 4 year experienced? Capgemini is shitty indeed with no manager or hr connects once they move you to bench.
@spaci10103 жыл бұрын
@@aditya-garg well there Is no such table for being on bench. The point is, a person with more experience should avoid being on bench for longer duration ie. more than couple of month.
@user-qf2jw8of2z3 жыл бұрын
What does being 7 months on bench mean?
@ankurbisht14563 жыл бұрын
@@user-qf2jw8of2z no work for 7 months, since no project was assigned.
@ZoldicsDiaries3 ай бұрын
companies would love that you sacrifice your personal life for them- such as dont get married, dont have children- so that you dedicate all your free time to that company and make them more money-its we have to realise not to fall into their trap- we must have our own family, personal lives, spouses, children- and live a more fulfilling life- we did not took birth to make some corporate companies rich, mind this very very carefully. Bcause nowdays i am seeing people- waiting till 30s, to get married-for god knows what reason- you wont get any better deal folks- just marry the person with whom you are with- capitalism would love that you never have a relationship, and even if you marry- you quickly get divorce- bcause it doubles down on growth of all these companies, since now the demand became double- so capitalism incentivize divorces- we have to be aware of this also- the big businesses never want to have everything or even have fulfilling life.
@alfredsur27373 жыл бұрын
Poor quality HRs. HRs need to understand that their job is a pheripheral function. The main product is the software engineers ship daily.
@shark4sk3 жыл бұрын
This male HR...seems like a really bad aachar....
@aditya-garg3 жыл бұрын
Well they feel they own the company.Am sure Corona layoffs must have given them a flavor of their own.
@ZoldicsDiaries3 ай бұрын
companies would love that you sacrifice your personal life for them- such as dont get married, dont have children- so that you dedicate all your free time to that company and make them more money-its we have to realise not to fall into their trap- we must have our own family, personal lives, spouses, children- and live a more fulfilling life- we did not took birth to make some corporate companies rich, mind this very very carefully. Bcause nowdays i am seeing people- waiting till 30s, to get married-for god knows what reason- you wont get any better deal folks- just marry the person with whom you are with- capitalism would love that you never have a relationship, and even if you marry- you quickly get divorce- bcause it doubles down on growth of all these companies, since now the demand became double- so capitalism incentivize divorces- we have to be aware of this also- the big businesses never want to have everything or even have fulfilling life.
@raghureddy29353 жыл бұрын
For everything there will not be mail, most of the cases communication happens on phone.
@shubhamchauhan61593 жыл бұрын
And that's where u r wrong. We r taught that if u r talking with anyone who is not related to u then always use e-mail. U don't even know where the transcript of ur email can save u
@deadnlovingit3 жыл бұрын
Can't blame the HRs here fully - the girl is on the bench for seven months and denying most of the opportunity and probably is playing the women card as well and is expecting a placement where everything fits the bill according to her whims. You have to be adaptive in these times than be adamant. Employees aren't always an innocuous bunch of crowd getting laid by the HRs. Always another side to the story .... She is a manual tester for 9 years - speaks a lot about her skills and zeal to improvise and adapt to stay up to challenges in the industry.
@md.shahidhussainansari1943 жыл бұрын
What is wrong with someone working in a particular field for 9 years .. if she's able to do the job it doesn't matter if she is doing for 9 years ..
@kshitizbhargav54993 жыл бұрын
@@md.shahidhussainansari194 the problem is manual testing is not relevant anymore. In IT you need to learn and adapt. Sitting in bench for such a long time shows her attitude . Hr are not at fault here.
@AbhishekTiwari-jq8lc3 жыл бұрын
Also consider that, u dont always get the role u want
@robertmarlo66683 жыл бұрын
@@kshitizbhargav5499 not true .. there are tons of people doing manual testing especially in the USA and making 100k+ annual income .. it’s not something that will disappear .. repetitive tasks are automated but manual testers are critical part of this industry ..
@kshitizbhargav54993 жыл бұрын
@@robertmarlo6668 We are talking about India. People don't really hire for manual testing anymore and secondly why would they hire someone with 13 year of exp in manual testing , who is asking for a big fortune , when the same job can be done by someone who recently joined industry (fresher) at a fraction of the cost. And it is not like the manual testing is a profile that requires skill, even a school student can do it and and in most companies , interns are the one who do.it
@soulmekanik13 жыл бұрын
Ideally the staffing consultant has to arrange atleast 2-3 client interviews in those 6-7 months for the employee. If clients dont select her and if she in unwilling to relocate ( written proof of such communication ) they then should warn her that this can lead to a termination. H.R sees this often so they should be proactive to avoid bad blood. Put them in a performance improvement plan or encourage them to succeed in internal client interviews to get on a project. On other hand if projects are hard to come by many employees proactively look for employment in other companies. If you have 8-9 years experience the cost to company is high and you are on the chopping block if benched. Once on the bench economics take over and logic has little place. When things get bad like this employees have all to lose and H.R has none. You can blame the system and maybe the employee is right too but in the end you are the one holding the can.
@ipu913 жыл бұрын
This is pure harassment of the individual lady by the HR.
@karthikcallingkarthik5917 Жыл бұрын
This is a discussion in CAPGEMINI. In case people are wondering.
@SA-xq8rl3 жыл бұрын
As an awarded erp consultant in oracle corp my next company capgemini hr person told me you dont have doman knowledge i left the job 14 yrs back started by own business in same domain now earning several time more than more than what that hr person would be earning now😁😁😁😁
@techsmash69073 жыл бұрын
Omg, she was on bench for 7 month. That's too much. 3 months is enough to receive termination or new project in IT
@NAMIRASHRAF7863 жыл бұрын
10 years exp She must be on atleast 10LPA+ package and 7th month on bench man that's really bad
@awesomebachpan3 жыл бұрын
True...
@anikets46993 жыл бұрын
10lpa me 2 developers aate hai bhai... 😅😂😓
@MrCoolRibhu3 жыл бұрын
@@anikets4699 Count it 3, 2 junior/fresher and one 2 yr exp
@Rumiesque3 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@saurabhbhardwaj11313 жыл бұрын
Bottom line that I have learnt is that when the company stops loving you...no point in lingering on...good fight but there is actually no point in this...same goes for relationship as well. If it ends, just let it go and move on (I know it is easier said than done but that is the reality sadly)
@XiaomiRedmi-zf6cs3 жыл бұрын
One thing that i can't understand that , at the time of joining they told , work whole heartily and feel as you are working in your own company and big bol bacchan..when they find themselves in little financial trouble they instantly kick employees out....this is mystery
@kumar7ck4283 жыл бұрын
There is no point in discussions. If the company does not need your skills its best to move out. Upgrade skills and move where your skills are valued
@mohitdaheriya87123 жыл бұрын
Everytime it does not work out.. people have a family to feed...
@ZoldicsDiaries3 ай бұрын
companies would love that you sacrifice your personal life for them- such as dont get married, dont have children- so that you dedicate all your free time to that company and make them more money-its we have to realise not to fall into their trap- we must have our own family, personal lives, spouses, children- and live a more fulfilling life- we did not took birth to make some corporate companies rich, mind this very very carefully. Bcause nowdays i am seeing people- waiting till 30s, to get married-for god knows what reason- you wont get any better deal folks- just marry the person with whom you are with- capitalism would love that you never have a relationship, and even if you marry- you quickly get divorce- bcause it doubles down on growth of all these companies, since now the demand became double- so capitalism incentivize divorces- we have to be aware of this also- the big businesses never want to have everything or even have fulfilling life.
@palakurthivishal3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of these kinds of HR, "BUT", she should have foreseen this day while being on the bench for 7 months. Don't take any company for granted, they can take bad measures during bad times.
@ayushagrawal993 жыл бұрын
but these video is of 4 years back, at that time, these is not common, at that time they were setting example for future. That it can be happen to anyone ,it will be common in future days
@destinyunfold1234 жыл бұрын
Bravo lady ! Take a bow!
@rinbaee3 жыл бұрын
"I am trying to make you understand you are not being sacked." *gets sacked
@manishahuja68443 жыл бұрын
hatts off to the lady for raising her voice for herself and her collegues against authoritarian manager and HR, who are good for nothing.
@Omnamahshivay80793 жыл бұрын
And for the longest time, hr ka kaam was to organise parties rangolis and briefing interviews
@EZIGAMING563 жыл бұрын
This is how HR's are, if they want to fire you they will do anything to accomplish it. Ofourse they will not take blame on themselves but make you feel that you are at fault. Kudos to the lady at least she put a good fight with facts and that HR guys was just talking brainlessly without any facts.
@pranabsahu85833 жыл бұрын
Brave girl .... responded very well.. they deserved ... I can trust God...I can't trust u ..this is the best line
@bipendrasharma43623 жыл бұрын
This guy who was talking so rudely should be reported to some authority.
@parthaghosh1463 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my discussion with Head-HR 10 yrs back. That to after putting in 9yrs of sincere service. These are usually losing discussion where the HR ends up having it's way.
@stockfreak78683 жыл бұрын
If you're sitting on bench for 8 months .. nobody is gonna pay you . It has nothing to do with any logic as such .. bitha ke paise kaun khilayega ?
@Gotham.Public.Library3 жыл бұрын
Arey bhai, that's not the point..if you listen to the clip she says clearly that, she was ready to work, and sho found internal roles that matched her skills, she was ready to get off the bench and start working, but noone got back her from the project side or HR team.
@awesomebachpan3 жыл бұрын
That's the other side of the story..
@deadnlovingit3 жыл бұрын
@@Gotham.Public.Library it means they found her over-budget, obviously for her skills! She is demanding a special treatment
@iamnoob75933 жыл бұрын
being on bench is not employee's fault. Its just that projects were not available. Although employee must keep looking for other opportunities Period
@nagp76503 жыл бұрын
If company genuinely fires someone due to downsize is acceptable But If someone fires someone because of ego clashes then it's a problem
@prasadmsvsyou3 жыл бұрын
There's no point in burning bridges when leaving a company. We can't change their mind by arguing over it. It's better to just accept it and look for another job.
@teslalive52883 жыл бұрын
That's how we are destroying the base of humanity by simply walking away without making the noise. If you want peace be prepared for war.
@Liberty555553 жыл бұрын
some times it is just fine to burn a bridge you are sure you do not want to use again !!
@sandipsarma3 жыл бұрын
That bridge is useless.. and need proper disposal..😃😀😁
@shivasantosht3 жыл бұрын
Basically u don't have balls n have sold ur soul
@aaditiparab36243 жыл бұрын
Sometimes its necessary to burn the bridge down along with the people on it.
@GenX2283 жыл бұрын
One cannot fight in Pvt job... They will still sack her...
@raghureddy29353 жыл бұрын
The movement employees question HR, manager then they blackmailing employees using termination weapon
@phalgunibhuyan38813 жыл бұрын
Harassment of the individual employee by the HR Team. HR Team should inform to bench employee at least 3 months in advance whether she/he in bench 7 months or 1 Year, that doesn't matter
@the777ist3 жыл бұрын
why are people siding with the girl? she was rude, unwilling to listen and was clearly not needed in the company (due to whatever reason) that they decided that they could let her go. manual software testers, quite frankly bring very little to no added value to the company. and she's been one for 10 years 😂 that's not much to show for oneself ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@MrCoolRibhu3 жыл бұрын
This comment is a bit of relief amidst all the other comments properly stating the fact as fact. ( amar jhaat jolchilo meyetar bachonbhongi dekhe )
@jeet-smokey3 жыл бұрын
@@MrCoolRibhu Epic
@ragingpahadi3 жыл бұрын
This is reality of Capgemini ! or any other service based company ... first make the person to do outdated work and then instead of upskilling the person ... terminate them as it is too much effort !
@akshaydeora51823 жыл бұрын
She should have updated her skills in 7 months
@hims52053 жыл бұрын
I have 1.5 years of experience in manual testing. 8 years in manual testing is not good. She should have moved to PO or upgraded her to automation. If someone is in manual testing for more than 2 years they themselves have degraded themselves such people slack off in office time and are least productive. It becomes difficult too when you want to change your profile. I know the work I do can be done by a 12th pass student but still i get same salary as a developer. I have recently started learning automation as it has a very good scope. Manual testing will die in next 5-10 years. It's better to upskill yourself before such time comes.
@afan74802 жыл бұрын
Well said👍
@funguy56763 жыл бұрын
I worked with same shit capgemini(CG) company on a senior level, these staffing HR Team just took 1 call and terminated me with in no time. I really felt that i was cheated by these CG policies, the way they talk rude with bad attitude and above all employee should not question staffing team nor HR. They even made my other known colleagues forcefully resign from CG. since then I wished not to recollect that experience but this video made be recollect all those scenarios.
@AKKSV3 жыл бұрын
Come 2021, employees are making HR to run for their lifes in what is called the great resignation
@awesomebachpan3 жыл бұрын
It's called Karma...
@prashanthtalla3 жыл бұрын
These arguments/allegations are a huge joke and so much pathetic. It displays the incompetence of the HR - they have no clue how to handle layoffs. Layoffs do happen, and it's part of working for a company/under someone, but this is absolutely not the way of handling it. Just say you do not have enough opportunities in the area of individual expertise and you have to downsize, that's all.
@darshanjadhav9703 жыл бұрын
Mjiuub
@sylvianblade753 жыл бұрын
Because it’s very expensive apparently for these companies to lay off employees and pay severance. So they force employees to resign to escape all formalities and make it look like it part of attrition.
@aranyachowdhury58192 жыл бұрын
I am working as a HR for quite some time. Being an alum of a top B school in India I can say even if the employee was an underperformer you as a HR need to be calm and cannot raise voice. Their is a method regarding how to conduct exit interview.
@awesomebachpan Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@poorvibharadwaj3373 жыл бұрын
Bruh, this isn't a discussion, the lady HR, when she said "I'll show you what being sacked is" , that was her being hostile, very disrespectful...and then the guy joins her and says "you'll see what termination is". Obnoxious
@PuneetKumar-nz2st3 жыл бұрын
Why is it obnoxious..? She is hired to deliver bad news and she is just doing her job..also.. This is a place of business not charity. Imagine you own a company and cost cutting burden comes to you, what you would do.. take the company in bankruptcy and make 1000 people loose the job or lay off certain employees. Selection of certain employees can be based on factors other than performance, which is not the question but again, you will have to let some folks go. On top of that labor laws are in hands of govt, check the labor laws which gave employers authority to hire and fire.. what has changed in labor laws etc.. If labor laws were strict then situation would have started with a severance package..but laws are changed, and employer have authority to terminate any employee anytime.
@shark4sk3 жыл бұрын
@@PuneetKumar-nz2st yes but tere is a way to do it....we all know how it works....so definitely it can be done in a more respectful way...
@shark4sk3 жыл бұрын
@@PuneetKumar-nz2st Also this is the most toughest part of HR function...
@poorvibharadwaj3373 жыл бұрын
@@PuneetKumar-nz2st I get what you're saying, but the whole stomping the foot and walking away, making it sound like a threat, it's not justified. If she was in fact a good communicator, she would have given the employee a valid enough reason to be laid off and she would have been able to convince her that it's a legitimate reason, I'm not saying that the employee would have not felt bad after that, ofc she'd have...but she'd not have been pissed off, she'd not have accused management of ganging up against her. The manager failed to satiate her with logic and was showed hostility towards her, that's unprofessional.
@PuneetKumar-nz2st3 жыл бұрын
@@poorvibharadwaj337 I know it might not look justified and I can see where you are coming from! Fact of the matter is, even HR doesn't enjoy laying off someone. It is the ugliest part of their job. But, companies are there to make profit. Believe me, I have seen Indian politics even here in the US. Anyways, about being logical.. there is never a valid reason for laying someone off, all companies brush it up with same jargon.... "cost cutting", "performance" bla bla... the way it works is that higher management decides a percentage number.. let's say 10% from each team.. now it is up to the team manager to give names.. so... even if you are literally working day and night and you are not in good books of manager (May be performance or may be team dynamics or it could be anything) then your name can be given.. Like I said, "performance" metric is a big BS, which HR gives while laying off.
@prashanthbk37603 жыл бұрын
The lady was not raising her voice unnecessarily they were trying to frame her. Shame on IT companies who make employees work in odd hours and frame them.
@viking188883 жыл бұрын
What is more funny is the man trying to show absolute bossism like an idiot. Every employee will have a location preference, but that does not mean the employee is adamant of not moving anywhere if certain projects based on a his/her skill is not available at the preferred location. They did not even ask her ask for any project outside gurgaon. Pathetic attitude.
@YourIndianbuddy_vk3 жыл бұрын
What working in odd hours. She is 7 months on bench.
@deepcool54973 жыл бұрын
7 months bench time is quite a long time, even 2 months is a ringing bell, lady is very arrogant. Layoffs are bad, but thats the private job nature, . After a very long job, the tendency comes of fear of loosing job and not searching job themselves. This is a perfect example of flab wants to stick without getting utilised and blaming others to get a task in the plate.
@Liberty555553 жыл бұрын
you are more arrogant than her !! You should be under the bench. she is just defending herself. Fat and flab both are in your brain .
@deepcool54973 жыл бұрын
@@Liberty55555 you are also flab seems.
@puneetm33 жыл бұрын
Agree, 7 months is a very long time indeed for bench period. One can take additional trainings and pick up new skills during this time.
@vithaln76463 жыл бұрын
not point in discussing with the HR when they decided to fire you, just have a smooth exit and move on another stage of life, getting fired is too painful I do understand when you are in mid life crisis. but this is how capitalistic society does. it happend to me , too painful, but life is too big to explore .
@ShujaathKhan3 жыл бұрын
I like your positive vibe, but not as easy for all due to commitments.
@vithaln76463 жыл бұрын
@@ShujaathKhan correct, we don't have any other options, I faced 3 times in life.
@truthhurts96013 жыл бұрын
Best to look out for the signs of lay-off. Remember if you have no work, you are surely gone and that is the time to look for other opportunities. Also, upgrade your skills.
@udennyn3 жыл бұрын
Companies need young, multiskilled new skilled, low demanding employees.
@vamshiabhilash5 ай бұрын
The worst part of indian corporate is that at times it really ticks you so much that your forced to leave the country
@siddharthvinze12763 жыл бұрын
on bench for 7 months that too for a manual tester which is almost an obsolete role. toppled with that, she's rude and unprofessional .What a jerk of an employee. The firing is totally justified.
@arnabsamanta11433 жыл бұрын
HRs are the curse to the Indian IT industry. How come a person from Chennai can suddenly re locate to Gurgaon Or how come a person from Noida can suddenly relocate to Hyderabad ?
@RanjitKumar-in3xq3 жыл бұрын
" Please give me some time so that I can explore other opportunities in Gurgaon. " isnt that objective crystal clear ?? Its the employee who is wrong here.
@nandeesh78863 жыл бұрын
Very brave lady 🙏 She will definitely get far better opportunity then this.
@MrCoolRibhu3 жыл бұрын
Not the one where she can get easy money for 7 months for sure
@karansantani83323 жыл бұрын
13 minutes of cringe after 7 months on bench. *slow-claps*
@bkIndian7 Жыл бұрын
Capgemini was the worst company I'd ever worked for. It's a lower class than start-ups in this country, and the government should stop granting them tax breaks. Kudos to the lady who gave left and right 😆
@casualgamer47873 жыл бұрын
Bro hats-off to this lady….
@Techie-time3 жыл бұрын
If someone is suggesting that I am exploring opportunities in Gurgaon what's wrong with it...these companies take it granted that everyone is ready to move and relocate ..the law of the land is not supporting employees.
@sidhu32863 жыл бұрын
The lady should have kept calm, but instead she was aggressive. She should have countered based on what the HR person would have said, i understand her emotion, but calmness is the key to salvation. Might be the HR wanted to say giving you 2 months notice period please go and search for another job. Then she could have argued with her points.
@feludaify3 жыл бұрын
You are in HR, aren't you?
@magn83 жыл бұрын
Because they are doing ifs and buts to force her to resign herself, maybe u r new to corporate culture.
@sidhu32863 жыл бұрын
@@feludaify ooh.. really, how did you smell it, as you are from the same community.
@sidhu32863 жыл бұрын
@@magn8 I am not new to this culture, but basic thing is be calm and counter, be aggressive when you find their weakness.
@josheversmann13763 жыл бұрын
You have no idea......sitting and commenting is different....
@talenthuntconsultants86193 жыл бұрын
That prominent IT company you probably masked at the beginning is out in the open at 9:07😀 with the whole host of client names😀
@cripCrap8613 жыл бұрын
Such shame for Capgemini. Lady mentioned the company during 10:00-11:00 somewhere between, and btw I have lot of friends who have faced this in Capgemini. I don't know what TCS does earlier, but as of now they don't terminate employees just because they are incapable to bring my new projects abd people are sitting in bench after being hired. That's the reason why people choose TCS even though salary offered is relatively sometimes compared to competition.
@cs-mi8ur3 жыл бұрын
Why would one reject projects while sitting in bench and while she is not even trying to get into projects she like?Don't have the knowledge, is not even willing to learn while sitting in bench- but won't do xyz projects because it doesn't look suitable to one.
@jonron38053 жыл бұрын
@@cs-mi8ur _not even trying to get into projects_ man, the companies use this manipulative language to get themselves rid of guilt. The responsibility of giving work is purely the employers responsibility. If the employee categorically refuses the work a warning should be given and even then if the act is repeated it becomes ethical for the company to ask people to leave. The fact is that in India the companies known that if they terminate they will be subject to lawsuits so they make HR's put pressure on the person to resign.
@cs-mi8ur3 жыл бұрын
@@jonron3805 if you're bench for more than a couple month and not getting any calls, you should proactively learn and reach out to projects.You know there are always openings in any mid to large scale projects.
@jonron38053 жыл бұрын
@@cs-mi8ur Thats manipulative logic of the company. The job profile of a professional is the deliver an assignment allocated to the person NOT hunt for projects. If this statement is made in a developed country they will sue the company for such a statement. Indian companies try to offload their responsibilies. Like if the person mentions they were not aware the manager was unhappy with their perfromance, they will say did YOU arrange a feedback session. If you genuinely believe in such manipulative statements you need to realise they are play talks. I have been in the IT industry since in the early days of its growth and know pretty much how much we are groomed to talk like this.
@cs-mi8ur3 жыл бұрын
@@jonron3805 it's not a developed country na, IT work culture is bad indian work culture is worse. For a person's own safety he/she should try to get out of the bench as soon as they can.You were from early days of IT right, you know west and India isn't same.
@ankurbisht14563 жыл бұрын
Issue with service based companies is billing. If you are not part of any project for 7 months, that's too much. Even in cognizant, one need to find a project within 3 months. Try with a product based company. No billing issue. 10 year in just one skill is also not good. Manual effort is being replaced by automation everywhere.
@shariqueahmer113 жыл бұрын
Losing a job after eight years of service is really disheartening.
@rvdadhich3 жыл бұрын
Management creates situation where either employees will leave or they will be blamed for something and will be threatened to leave otherwise they will initiate the termination process. I am surprised that other companies are doing same.
@justengineering73463 жыл бұрын
Which company was this?
@rvdadhich3 жыл бұрын
@@justengineering7346 Accenture
@justengineering73463 жыл бұрын
@@rvdadhich no, it was capgemni, See the video till end it was mentioned
@rvdadhich3 жыл бұрын
@@justengineering7346 I am telling about my experience 😊and it happened in Accenture
@achilees19823 жыл бұрын
There is job safety in India, organizations can simply remove emps without any warning. The constant stress level that people are in corporate life simply ruins life.
@amritasharma90563 жыл бұрын
hats-off lady !!! as far as job is concerned HR & Management guy can shove it up (where ever they want to) .
@Htyagi1998 Жыл бұрын
But if you are on bench for 7 months, then why you haven't applied for other jobs? Now the time is such that as soon as we will get on to the bench then first learn the automation and then simply apply to other company.
@sankyppp3 жыл бұрын
Blaming the employee the whole time over a twisted interpretation of an email that she must have written thinking something, and then they tell her that the company is not doing too well! Then they sack her just to show what sacking means....joke.
@awesomebachpan3 жыл бұрын
They already made up their minds
@sanujitroy68304 жыл бұрын
IT have a paradigm shift towards quality with experience, away from quantity without knowledge or skills
@awesomebachpan3 жыл бұрын
True
@wolfy0273 жыл бұрын
Consider opportunities in Europe. India lacks proper labour laws, and many people are overworked and underpaid, because of huge labour market.
@shark4sk3 жыл бұрын
How to apply for jobs in Europe from india???
@princereddy48873 жыл бұрын
@@shark4sk stack overflow careers indeed etc
@avichakraborty4163 Жыл бұрын
Capgemini i have worked twice, never in any company i found such bullshit HR department full if idiots in any other company i have worked for..
@expectopatronum213 жыл бұрын
You tube recommendation algorithm is awesome 🙄feel pity for the girl who is being fired !
@eaglehunt71764 жыл бұрын
Great technical discussion by this leady. It not simple to work 9 years for a company consistently, these people like gems.
@abhinavmathur56483 жыл бұрын
or incompetent ... come on dude, she is a manual tester since 9 years
@gameglimpses88613 жыл бұрын
@@abhinavmathur5648 so what? Keep running in a rat race until you die? Is it wrong to settle and want stability? Is testing not even a skill?
@gameglimpses88613 жыл бұрын
@@abhinavmathur5648 then HRs should be thrown out of each company as they do a routine job all their lives and not learn a thing
@abhinavmathur56483 жыл бұрын
@@gameglimpses8861 - Do you see any horse carriages around? Steam Engine drivers ? I say knowing how to run a steam engine is a skill, just that skill is not useful anymore. So either the steam driver learns how to operate a higher version or be happy in being behind the curve and eventually adding no economic value Infact it is quite hypocritical that people in IT want salaries at the epitome of capitalism with the job security of a government clerk
@Kumar-nx5ly3 жыл бұрын
@@abhinavmathur5648 agree.. its IT not bank job.. you need upgrade urself and be competitive.. and once you have 7-8 years of experience, it doesnt take lot to upgrade your skills compare to newbie..
@AutoBHP_IND3 жыл бұрын
Whenever you talk to any top level management or HR and if this is case just make sure to start recording.
@suparnabarua96742 жыл бұрын
If a company is loosing an employee who has served it for 9 years constantly, thn it's a loss for the company
@dewashishkumar82263 жыл бұрын
U talked with very well. I also faced in the reputed company. I also forced to resign within of 20 min of discussion.
@rvdadhich3 жыл бұрын
same happened with me in Accenture
@seewitme3 жыл бұрын
You know, these kind of people are disgrace to be in any authority position.
@subramaniamiyer24323 жыл бұрын
The problem is HR's think they rule over the employees.. but they don't know they are just business support functions and nothing else. The problem is most of the HR's these days don't know how to handle the employees. Sad for this experienced professional that she had to be treated this way by incompetent HR's.
@alfredsur27373 жыл бұрын
Cannot trust HR, can trust God
@aakashhowlader26623 жыл бұрын
Come on! This is the IT sector where the field is ever changing. If you can't upgrade your skills, you will be released. Why not change your field to something else that isn't changing every day?
@don88293 жыл бұрын
This is true, Lot of Indians have government Job Security Mentality, This is not How IT Works?
@yadavika20963 жыл бұрын
I am graduated from NIT W,, i never want to job in pvt sector,,,i am preparing for govt. job,,, i left DELHI POLICE constable ,,,for preparing for high ranked govt. job...
@VishnoiAbhishek293 жыл бұрын
@@yadavika2096 you joined delhi police constable after nit Warangal 🤔 seriously ??
@yadavika20963 жыл бұрын
@@VishnoiAbhishek29 yes bro and left,,,,
@yadavika20963 жыл бұрын
@@VishnoiAbhishek29 NIT w m bhi CSE branch tha ,,,i have phobia of coding ,,,,mere ko coding ekdum hell ki tarah lagti
@hippo58203 жыл бұрын
It seems very clear that the woman has been called in to tender her resignation against her will.. HR acting nasty and trying to portray it as her fault is a conventional harrasment technique.. Sadly this is very prevalent in the IT industry and there is not much an employee can do about it..
@kr75842 жыл бұрын
The male HR resource on this video is unfit to work in HR for any company. Period. Not sure who hired him.
@rvdadhich3 жыл бұрын
Is this from Accenture?? I have same experience and had discussion like this..HRs are very bad same as Managers... Can't do anything about them
@ranjanmaithani62633 жыл бұрын
Capegemini
@adimukhopadhyay94263 жыл бұрын
9:06 Capgemini.. However downsizing is from RBS
@bhbhi3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this happens in every company...in the name of PIP... such gross practice of firing people...that to without any consideration to the effect of the psychology
@Babu-ml7gv8 ай бұрын
Please let me know which company is this? I will never join this company and ignore their interviews.
@deshdeepakverma70243 жыл бұрын
I faced it during Lockdown my company Azure Power India Pvt ltd fired me on a call
@eusterich30353 жыл бұрын
Kiyu agye ache din
@suvrojotibhunia56273 жыл бұрын
But she is on bench for 7 months.. and she was never interviewed...its actually her fault she should have taken initiative and contacted project managers for project locking...
@shashankjuyal18693 жыл бұрын
you can't sit on bench for 7 months and expect the company to roll the red carpet for you. If you couldn't find or won't take an opportunity in 7 months then this is bound to happen.
@jittojoseph92483 жыл бұрын
I think you don't understand how things work there is a disconnect between hiring partner and staffing partner lot of people are on bench without their fault.
@shashankjuyal18693 жыл бұрын
@@jittojoseph9248 The onus is on you to find a project yourself. You cannot completely bank on the staffing team to ensure this. Besides how can someone not find a manual testing project in a mid to large service company. She needed to take ownership for landing a project for her self. 7 months is a long time to be in danger zone. Those days are gone when people could casually be on bench for 3 yrs straight.
@MrCoolRibhu3 жыл бұрын
@@shashankjuyal1869 she should be happy to face this after getting paid for 7months of no work. Had I been in her place, I would have enjoyed this and gladly written a letter to layoff me paying me another extra 2months of notice period.. hahahaha
@aditya-garg3 жыл бұрын
To all the folks who feel it's very well organized in terms of opportunities, capgemini is a mess in terms of whom to reach out to,they move you around and you don't even get the chance to connect with the new manager too often. And there is no hr connect or counseling to find a matching opportunity.
@iamnoob75933 жыл бұрын
being on bench is not employee's fault. Its just that projects were not available. Although employee must keep looking for other opportunities Period
@saikatray57924 ай бұрын
salute to the lady, this cannot be easy
@user-bu3tp4fm2s3 жыл бұрын
If company is not doing good, decent companies mention that and go ahead with pinkslip, why HR is using these techniques, I have myself given pinkslips but never taken down the self esteem of an employee. Because that's the truth about business not about the employee. It does not reflect good on the HR skills here.It looks manipulative, which is not expected from senior HR.
@jeeperscreepers87044 жыл бұрын
That manly voiced living being is the worst part, not even taking responsibility of what he's saying, he is trying to manipulate her, but he's not even good in it...
@awesomebachpan3 жыл бұрын
Agreed... Even fake accent is not helping ..
@drsaikat3 жыл бұрын
What i understand: She was sitting around for 7 months taking a salary. She did not have a problem with that, the company asked her to relocate to a different location. She wanted to explore various options locally , so the company was expected to keep paying her till she found a better job.
@rejectionistmanifesto88363 жыл бұрын
Where did it say she was paid 7 months?
@drsaikat3 жыл бұрын
@@rejectionistmanifesto8836 Thats what "being on the bench" means. And you seriously believe she is upset from getting fired from a job that did not pay her for 7 months,
@rejectionistmanifesto88363 жыл бұрын
@@drsaikat so if someone isnt doing work for more than 3 months what sane company wont tell the employee you should look for a job at our competitor or other company. What is the purpose to keep these people if not only to use them just in case new work suddenly comes?
@drsaikat3 жыл бұрын
@@rejectionistmanifesto8836 did u even listen to the audio? She was offered a position in another city, and she said she wanted to look for other options. In short she was fine with taking a salary without working, however when the company wanted to put her to work she wanted to look for another job at the company's expense. Basically she wanted a private sector salary with a govt job security
@rejectionistmanifesto88363 жыл бұрын
@@drsaikat yet they couldnt find any interview for her 7 months and couldn't release her from her contract till they decide to terminate her without 90 day notice as they expect from employees?