Why the UNIVERSAL HATE of Rachel Zegler's Snow White Has Changed Disney Forever

[@dcabral00]

Snow was not just a Disney movie. Snow White was THE Disney movie.

[@growingupwithdisney]

Cinderella actually was, thank goodness the 2015 one was done well, Snow White is just the first

[@Drums_of_Liberation]

​@@growingupwithdisneyLol no. Cinderella wouldn't have existed without Snow White to pave the way. Disney's Folly is THE Disney movie period.

[@growingupwithdisney]

@@Drums_of_Liberation yeah but everything Snow White represented was done better with Cinderella. A girl who’s in a completely unchanging position, and she decides to lead either kindness. Cinderella feels more universal, and feels like it’s THE Disney movie. Snow White does those things well though

[@clownrat5759]

@@Drums_of_Liberationyes, but Snow White isn’t THE Disney movie. You’d be hard pressed to find someone who actually says Snow White is their favorite Disney movie, especially nowadays. Cinderella is a classic and beloved by many

[@ChienaAvtzon]

@@clownrat5759 - “Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs” is far superior to “Cinderella”. Which is partially why the 2015 remake is an improvement of the animated film. The 1950s “Cinderella” does not hold up well, and is pretty boring. Of the original Disney Princess lineup, is was always the weakest.

[@shannonslutzky4754]

I always hated Rachel’s comment about Snow White being strong in this film because she won’t need a man or love. Mirror mirror showed Snow White defeating the queen AND finding love. AND it included 7 little people that were strong and amazing. Wanting a man in your life or a love story doesn’t mean you’re weak.

[@PickleGobbler9000]

Modern females don’t see or agree with the last part you wrote, that’s why she’s so comfortable hating on men living in her MAN made house on her MAN made couch eating her MAN maintained food. It’s embarrassing how intolerant females have become.

[@perraterca]

not needing a man or love doesn't mean you don't want one tho

[@the-berries-and-cream-dude]

That’s Disney pushing their agenda and Rachel Zegler having to commit to it cus she signed a contract. Many girls who have starred in Disney princess live action have made the same comments yet no one comes after them. Yes, it doesn’t make you weak to want to settle down and find love but if you want to hate on someone, it’s Disney, I’m so over the hate train for Rachel when she’s basically just doing what she’s obligated to do.

[@phousefilms]

@@the-berries-and-cream-dude I remember that one of the reasons I didn't like the live action "Aladdin"was the change of Princess Jasmine from not wanting to marry unless it was for love to wanting to rule in her own right. It's okay, it's not, you know, me hating the idea of a lady in power...but I always did love the scene where the Sultan changes the law, saying that Aladdin had proven himself worthy and she could marry whomever she wanted.

[@SteveCrafts2k]

It's fine if you don't need a man. But love? What? Love doesn't make you weak. On the contrary, love can make you stronger, if only to protect the ones you care for.

[@karnagekarnival5127]

I wish we could have strong independant women that are domestic and gentle souls. Why do all female characters have to be super bold and outgoing? Some women just want to engage in their hobbies and stay home. That doesnt make them weak, or bad. Its anti-feminist to basically say a woman is weak and lame if god firbid she needs some help. Or if her interests are about home making. Theres nothing wrong with "classical femininity". If you dont think Snow White's ability to remain hopeful and kind while her life falls apart is strength, then you shouldnt be making the Snow White movie.

[@karolinebroll3025]

This abstraction capacity is lacking in Rachel Zegler 😶 that’s why whenever she opens her big flapping mouth she only makes things worst for herself, the movie and Disney 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@Lemoncakelover678]

You do realise Rachel isn't working on the movie right, she's just acting in it.

[@karnagekarnival5127]

@Lemoncakelover678 i dont think i even once said shit about Rachel. It's been a long-standing problem with Disney writers.

[@DavidPeacock1972]

@@Lemoncakelover678 OK, I'm confused, I don't see anything in the original comment that alludes to what you have just replied to, is she also acting when she's mouthing off?

[@InteractiveGamer-4558]

@@DavidPeacock1972 Perhaps it's to the reply. Also someone giving an opinion isnt the same as acting in a movie.

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

Rachel is the avatar of everything people hate about current disney in one person.

[@karolinebroll3025]

Spot on 😂🎯

[@ladyangelsongbird]

She's the epitome of everything that's currently wrong with Hollyweird and celebrity culture

[@jairusjackson7799]

Well stated

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

@jairusjackson7799 thank you

[@angelarch5352]

Very true. She is the smug embodiment of a spoiled, insufferably ignorant and arrogant, elitist, narcissist. "weird weird".

[@Everettescottortiz]

I actually liked the original way that Gal Gadot said “opinionated“. It was much more sultry with an angry undertone and very womanly. Now it’s just too girly sounding.

[@SciFiknitter173]

Exactly. I think the deeper voice and the OG intonation is much more fitting for the character.

[@wylabley]

Agree, this movie is going to be so over edited on release date.

[@quaintpaint]

So true! But after the new change to the audio for that word, I thought I had hallucinated her saying it the original way lol

[@pessoafail]

I mean, the Evil Queen is a psychopath. The only emotion she shows in the animation is anger and envy. Only after she becomes an old hag, aka her true self, she is willing to laugh. And even then her joy is literally all about killing Snow White. She is sadistic to the core. She literally narrates Snow White’s death like one would narrate their fondest memory. Gal’s version shows no emotion at all, safe envy and irritation and I think that’s good-she understood the character (unlike Zagler). Sure, Gal’s version needs better directing. And a better script.

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

I can't STAND that line, because it's the woke garbage being forced down the dialogues throat AGAIN. "Oh, you're a girl with an opinion, how dare you! I definitely am going to get my comeuppance for daring to think girls can't have opinions!" 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@MacaldaReye]

Disney could’ve had her be literally Snow White and been progressive if they had featured someone with albinism, I feel like that could’ve been interesting and still representing a group of ppl in film

[@sunnflare]

I had this thought too! That would’ve been really cool, I wish we had actual creatives in Disney instead of just corporate millionaires that haven’t been on social media in a million years 😂

[@embroideredragdoll]

Me and my boyfriend have said this for a while and even done art of a possible albino Snow White.

[@ispoilers9535]

Ooh, write that movie, girl.

[@invadernav3422]

That's how I've always wanted Snow White to be portrayed - not just that she's pale, and could be pale of any race - but literally unnaturally white, almost ghost like. Beautifully ethereal.

[@artemismoore4176]

@@invadernav3422Snow White is literally described in the fairytale as “hair as dark as ebony tree, skin as pale as snow, and lips as red as blood” or something like that I would be so down if they featured the albino actress as Snow White

[@ToxicVex267]

I personally find the practice of changing a character's race to be lazy. If Disney wants to promote more representation, they should take inspiration from "The Princess and the Frog." It's an amazing movie with catchy songs and a mostly Black cast. To me, that's a more appropriate way to handle representation. Instead, it feels like they just change a character's skin color and say, "Here you go, here's your representation." Regarding Rachel's description of how their version of the story would portray Snow White as the leader she knows she can be, I found it completely off-putting. It's not that I dislike strong, independent women; rather, I'm just tired of how Disney and Marvel handle their female characters.

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

I literally dont5 watch things with race swaps anymore full on zero tolerance policy.

[@ScrambledAndBenedict]

I find it to be out and out problematic. When you race-swap characters, you're basically telling a demographic you don't care enough about them to actually make a character or a story for them. You're just giving them someone else's hand-me-downs. If they really cared about these demographics, they'd actually create characters that were steeped in those cultures like what they did with Moana, or find a myth from one of those cultures like Mulan. Nevermind the fact it's also out-and-out cultural appropriation: how's taking a German fairy tale and replacing Snow White with a Latina any different than if I made a live action movie about Queen Calafia starring Kirsten Dunst?

[@Doc-Glock]

Personally, when the race of an existing character is changed to mine (for example) in an attempt to appeal to me/people like me, I don't feel honored or "seen" as I'm sure some out-of-touch producer intended. I've grown to find the act of race swapping to be cynical and only more embarrassing over time. Especially to think that I'm going (or expected) to give praise and clap like a seal for what I call "Sloppy Seconds Representation".

[@P.Whitestrake]

But The Princess & the Frog is a German tale by White Europeans & about White Europeans. Disney raceswapped it too.

[@ScrambledAndBenedict]

@@P.Whitestrake They actually leaned heavily into the culture of that era though. They didn't just slap a black lady in a vaguely medieval kingdom, call it The Frog Prince, and expect folks like me to cheer because "look, she's the same color as me!" They set it in New Orleans, in the 20's, and actually leaned into Louisianan culture and acknowledged racial tensions and segregation (albeit, in a VERY family-friendly borderline historical negationism sort of way). That was a whole different scope than just spray-painting the main character. If this Snow White was set in Central America and gave the whole work a Latin American makeover and the 7 dwarves were Tata Duendes or something, that'd actually be pretty damned cool and original and unique.

[@daishikaze3986]

Only part I disagree with is that Disney will learn from this mistake. They haven't learned from their past mistakes of the last few years and keep doing the same things expecting a different result, I see no reason why this will be any different

[@skymario1012]

@@daishikaze3986 Disney will be the last company to change, unless they find themselves running low on money very fast. And considering the stupidly high budgets their films and shows have, it might happen sooner then we think. The only question now is, when the time comes, will Disney be able to get it's audience back, and money back.

[@beniverson3777]

I always took the point of the dwarves in the story to be that they were outcast from society for being different, and probably seen as useless. So the fact that they're thriving and happy on their own was uplifting. And it was natural that they'd help someone in need, who in turn helps them. And they're the ones who avenge and rescue their friend at the end, as the queen runs through the dark woods being grabbed by branches in a direct mirror of what Snow had to go through earlier as a result of the queen. It's not complicated storytelling, but it's at least solid and understandable and has real meaning, especially to kids. And now we can't have that because one guy has a chip on his shoulder about being a dwarf, even though he's handsome and rich and successful.

[@chasehedges6775]

EXACTLY

[@daniellavaladez7820]

THIS 100%!!!

[@kipolem53]

Peter Dinklage was upset because he didn't get a role because Disney wanted to give people who hardly get roles a chance in their live action remakes, that explains the casting of Moana and honestly July 2021 when Zegler was announced for this role, she had been in ZERO movies. I mean it doesnt' aply to Beauty and the Beast because Emma WAtson however seems like she is the reason that made as much as it did.

[@janminglee3004]

Dwarves > garden gnomes

[@VaneWalker]

I thought they were just racial Dwarves, like LotR and not IRL Dwarfs or little people

[@PhilRiveraMedia]

This movie is like the singularity of everything that is terrible in Hollywood. Bad casting, politics, remakes, terrible story telling, terrible CG, terrible PR, changing the original, overblown budget, etc., etc. I mean it just goes on and on. If it could go wrong, it went wrong with this movie, and now, it's time for Disney to reap what it has sown.

[@chasehedges6775]

Sooooo true.

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

It's a punching bag for the audience and the avatar of all we hate.

[@karolinebroll3025]

Wow 👏🏻 thank you so much for saying this because is what the audiences have been realizing and complaining a lot about it and the media, the industry AND the casts are simply ignoring the public and, when the “movies” flop, we, the f*****ing audience, are the ones who are “toxic, bigots, hateful people” and so on 🤮 it’s good to see common sense in such times for entertainment 😊

[@bottlethrower1544]

They check all the boxes... the wrong ones

[@daniellavaladez7820]

This 100%

[@xxmarjaxx]

I hate that Hollywood is so allergic to romance these days. Why is it so hard to understand that women can be strong and still want to find true love!

[@littlemoth4956]

In all fairness romance is extremely overdone and I'm tired of seeing it. Whether or not the main character wants romance has barely anything to do with the actual quality of the story.

[@amandaslough125]

​@@littlemoth4956 when was the last time you've seen good romance though?

[@xxmarjaxx]

​@@littlemoth4956 That's like saying action or horror is overdone. There's an audience for everything. Romance doesn't need to be present in every story, but it's severely been lacking in movies it used to be at the center, like Disney movies. Now it's all just independent strong girlboss characters that need no man, and I'm tired of that. I feel like women crave more romantic movies than ever before, and that's why many of us have had to turn to books and fanfics more because there's barely any of that in movies right now, or if there is, it's just a subplot with no importance. Romance has been a leading genre in books for god knows how long anyway, so it's insane to me that movie execs leave money on the table and not take advantage of the money that women could bring in.

[@kayleighdriessen]

they're hypocrites because it's shown time and time again that men can be strong an still yearn for and find love along the way but apparently women can only choose between love or career not a balance of both.

[@m.o.4240]

The Princess and the Frog is a great example

[@averagebeing_com]

Disney: Releases a new Snow White trailer Audience: Weird…weird!

[@chasehedges6775]

MODERN HOLLYWOOD, BABY😂😂😂😂

[@mkf628]

it's ok. they don't need your business.

[@jeisonhansson]

Oh they do need everones business if this crap gonna make money ​@@mkf628😂

[@Mienboi821510]

@@mkf628that’s the point. That’s how y2k was a flop. 🎉

[@TheFarinsqarin]

Omg and the thing about it the “ fairest” of them all, wasn’t just about Snow White being prettier than the Queen. It was about purity, kindness, and heart. That’s why the queen wanted the woodsman to cut out her heart. The power of a pure maiden’s heart would have enhanced the Queen’s magic.

[@mirandacc76]

The queen can get such heart from any babies. Most human have such heart when we were young.😅

[@lise7538]

​@@mirandacc76That's true 😢

[@cosmicspacething3474]

I thought the point was that the Queen was missing the point, and not carding about being a good person unlike Snow white

[@gachathis4858]

Babies aren't capable of that. They only realize they have hands at what 2 months? It would have been weak​@@mirandacc76

[@CrimsonMey]

​@@mirandacc76 might not be big enough. Has to be 1 heart of teenage sized human that is pure. Goodluck finding a pure of heart teenager these days.

[@dcabral00]

There is a possibility that nobody would have a problem with Disney's new agendas, as long as they were expressed through new IPs.

[@ToxicVex267]

@@dcabral00 I honestly find the remake era freaking boring cause their usually worse versions of the original movies. Like the mulan remake and lion king remake really showed that some of the people making these remakes don't know why we loved those movies and the messages they told. Its basically were taking your favorite movies but were gonna suck the fun out of them. Unfortunately now that everyone else has suffered now its my turn cause the Lilo And Stitch remake is coming. 😭

[@funkyfranx]

@AGK1999FE ‘This magic belongs to no boy!’ You can’t make a good movie when pushing your agenda is the priority over telling a good story. The people behind these ‘progressive’ remakes are activists first and foremost; they’ll never be capable of making anything good whilst that is the case

[@mariella2884]

They don’t benefit from that though. They are releasing these works to hold on to their IP, to prevent it from becoming public domain. They have been doing this like clockwork for YEARS. It kills me that fans think for a moment it was ever about them, Disney has been a capitalistic nightmare since the 80s

[@chasehedges6775]

Mirror, Mirror(2012) is the best Snow White remake. 8/10

[@sammysstopmotionoas1996]

I completely agree!

[@chasehedges6775]

💯💯🙏. Thanks

[@ryannathaniel9296]

I disagree. It should've have been at least 8.6/10

[@ryannathaniel9296]

On a more straightforward note, I love the costumes in that movie :)

[@DHM91]

That's not a remake. It's its own thing

[@shimtest]

Ayn Rand advice to Disney: “You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.”

[@KRobinson-ko1ne]

What does Ayn Rand know about reality?!

[@chasehedges6775]

Reality is a harsh mistress.

[@AKATenn]

Ignorance is bliss until you get hit by the bus you were ignoring.

[@MrAsmontero]

Ayn Rand: 🤮

[@bottlethrower1544]

Great quote. Keeping this in my quiver

[@jenneacubero1036]

To be fair, the 90s cartoon "Happily Ever After: Fairytale For Every Child" had Snow White be a Native American with the rename of "White Snow" as her dying mother saw snow on the window ledge shortly after White Snow was born. The show would have the original fairytales "race-lifted" but they were creative by changing the stories into different regions and time periods.

[@anna_25]

At this point, they changed the story so much that it is anything but Snow White. I would be much less pissed (but still mad) if they just kept the movie as is but renamed it to anything else.

[@karolinebroll3025]

I think that Disney would’ve been way more successful if they just started a brand new era with brand new characters, new stories and new universes… it seems that they have been so engaged to adapt the classics to hide their total lack of respect for the classic fairy tales and their laziness instead of actual social concerns 🤔

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

This is the real dilemma. The rich executives want to be seen as woke because it's a luxury status symbol belief. But not nearly as much as they want to make billions and billions and billions of dollars. So they force their lame political ideologies onto established IP's that have nothing to do with their deeply out of touch Los Angeles Film Producer lives. If they had the courage and the creative talent to make their own stories, way less people would be upset. But they would make less money and they can't allow that under any circumstances because that's what they ACTUALLY care about.

[@tomatosoup1304]

You know what's crazy. The idea of seeing the actual abusive relationship between Snow White and the Evil Queen and watching Snow overcoming this trauma and fear to take her kingdom back and free her people COULD WORK whilst maintaining her gentleness as she doesn't want her people to suffer the way she did if the entire cast and studio didn't crap on the original, prevent people who have dwarfism from getting roles in favor of ugly animation, the styling of Rachel Zegler's hair and outfit wasn't so horrifying and so much more

[@vadymyurchenko8222]

As for me, the main problem here is that the filmmakers have been constantly lying (or misleading the public, to say the least) about this so-called brand new, revolutionary take on the Snow White tale for years, while in reality it's not. Such movies as 'SW. A Tale of Terror,' 'Mirror, Mirror,' and 'SW and the Huntsman' had already changed our perception of Snow White. They'd already given the princess enough strength and proactiveness to challenge the queen and retake her right to the throne. Since the 90s, this trope has become classic. Kristen Stewart has already done that, Lily Collins has already done that, and Monica Keena has already done that. And now we have a bunch of ridiculous interviews with Rachel Zegler and Gal Gadot behaving absolutely delusional and talking about how they will challenge the tradition, break the rules, etc., while in fact Snow White has been a feminist for the past 30 years. I am sure this remake will entertain me, and I am definitely going to the cinema if I am not killed before March 2025, because I love the tale, but dear filmmakers, please, STOP PRETENDING THAT THIS IS SOMETHING NEW; IT'S NOT. EMPOWERED SNOW WHITE IS A CLASSIC TROPE. PERIOD

[@lise7538]

Amen.

[@ECHOOOEntertainment]

Even Once Upon A Time has done it so...

[@marlena.]

Right? I don't even initially mind the idea of an adaptation, but I want one like they did with Cinderella, that is not a copy, just a stand alone version. Or what they did with Malificent, a twist on the story based on the villan. (Or Once upon a time, like the above commenter)

[@vadymyurchenko8222]

@@marlena. imagine if there was no queen, but evil and self-obsessed narcissist stepdad... but disney is way too safe and sanitised for bringing changes like this in 2024

[@marlena.]

@@vadymyurchenko8222 Sound pretty good. You know... As long as it's good writing, execution and Pr, I could get behind anything.

[@Kizzy-pu4he]

I thought the scenes with the Prince in the animated version were short, not because the animators couldn't draw men (as an artist, that makes no sense to me), but because of the budget and the need to not animate that many scenes. I could be wrong, but when artists are as talented as the ones that animated Snow White, I find it difficult to believe they couldn't animate a man.

[@JakNasty69]

I thought it was women who were harder to draw and animate because they have more curves and features to get right

[@J.MahargJust]

Hey, artists have their things. I can draw everything except cars

[@funkyfranx]

@@J.MahargJust But the basic forms for males and females are the same… men are a bit taller and more squared off, but they’re not a completely different shape!

[@neatoburrito7693]

Honestly I've met a lot of artists who are very good/consistent at drawing one gender, while lacking at drawing the other, so it's totally possible. But I also think iirc that there was something else to do with animating the prince specifically that made him difficult

[@cosmicspacething3474]

Maybe it’s a combination of both. Prince Charming being more realistic would have used up the budget BECAUSE it was difficult to draw him

[@BrightElk]

I’m going to be honest. As a stay at home wife and mother who enjoys those roles in my life and I also just so happened to be a hopeless romantic, I literally felt like disney was saying “You’re a failure as a woman and we don’t approve of you as a female.” when they made all these changes to Snow White. Why can’t disney see the irony in this? I’ve never had a problem with working women or single and/or childless women. But it seems like it’s trendy to call yourself a feminist and insult women like me in the same breath. “We are hear to protect women, except for women like you.” That’s all I hear and see.

[@Altaira17]

Feminism done well encourages all women to choose who they want to be. Feminism done badly tries to force all women into the same cookie cutter.

[@rubyredmile9163]

Your reliance on the approval of an enormous entertainment conglomerate is so embarrassing. If you are indeed a wife and mother the you are literally the pinnacle of what most societies think a woman's life should be, most women in most societies in most ages that chose not to marry or have children were reviled, abused, coerced, ra*ed and killed. It is so embarrassing that your stance is "well I did everything society demanded of me but wahhh a movie says I'm not a strong woman" is sooo cringe. Not "female enough" don't make me laugh, so pathetic, go outside once in a while and think about the global status of women, think about how little girls are still being married to grown men in Mozambique, think about the women who would be beaten for speaking aloud in Afghanistan or showing their faces in public, think about the thousands of women sold into sex slavery every year, women who actually suffer and not from their feelings being hurt by a soulless movie remake and get your head out of your ass

[@BrightElk]

@@Altaira17This is so true. But it’s hard to find the good feminists and I just have a hard time trusting it all now because of the way toxic feminism has been popularized in the media.

[@Lemoncakelover678]

​@@BrightElkwhat makes a good feminist in your eyes? Genuine question

[@alyssapinon9670]

@@BrightElkmaybe I got lucky but in all the feminist theory classes I took in college, so many talk about how feminized labor is undervalued by men and women alike. And they are fighting for SAHM’s to receive the same benefits a stay at home caretaker would get. I’m not denying that there are still people stuck in second wave girlboss feminism. But feminists who are against that thinking are out there. They probably just aren’t the loudest.

[@karnagekarnival5127]

I hate that people totally misunderstood Peter Dinklage. All he said was that most roles for little people are comedic, and for some actors, that will never be fulfilling. Its unfair that they dont often get serious roles, its a totally fair complaint. The answer to that isn't "get rid of dwarf characters if they aren't serious." The answer is to write more complex roles for little people, or just consider them for some roles if its do-able. Many romance or fantasy stories can have serious characters played by little people. They didnt have to change the dwarves in Snow White much, just add a little bit of seriousness to drive home that they are noble and respectable (that doesnt mean get rid of their humor either, just give them some dignity).

[@purefoldnz3070]

not every actor wants to play serious roles, some just dont care as long as they can work and support their families. Dinklage needs to dinklebot off.

[@karnagekarnival5127]

@purefoldnz3070 your statement isnt at all in contradiction to what he said though. Some actors are fine with it, some arent. They should all get the chance to pursue their careers as they wish.

[@AtesSu2006.]

So he worked for them to lose job Opportunity

[@purefoldnz3070]

@@karnagekarnival5127 they should get to decide for themselves but from the interviews I've seen they just want to work and fair enough too

[@karnagekarnival5127]

@AtesSu2006. im starting to think yall really have an IQ in the double digits 💀 Lets put it this way: We (me and you) go to a buffet. I say "Hey, there arent many dessert options here. I wish there were more sweets." You say "I like brownies and there are brownies here so im happy." Am i denying you brownies? Am i saying you shouldnt get to eat? No. Peter is saying "there should be more roles for dwarves. I like serious roles." And youre all actung like he said "dwarves should never be funny and if they want to be funny fuck them." Like...whats not clicking? 💀💀💀

[@365ral]

Remaking SW has opened everyone's eyes to Iger's true intentions. This isn't about "reimaginings" or "representation;" it's erasing Walt and his company's first 90 years from history and the public eye.

[@DocMicrowave]

SW > Snow White / Star Wars. The same thing is happening to both. Erasing the source material to remake for the so called "modern audiences".

[@365ral]

@@DocMicrowave Except SW is the world's first animated film. It's a historical milestone, but Iger said, "Nah, it's problematic!"

[@ryannathaniel9296]

@@365ral The other SW is also historical in which it has groundbreaking special effects and the movie responsible for bringing scifi to the mainstream. Geekdoom and Nerd culture slowly become more widely acceptable thanks to that other SW. What Iger is doing now is basically, "That kind of geeky and nerdy is problematic. We will decide what should be geeky and nerdy"

[@thevalkyrie8]

Remember when Meryl Streep attacked Walt some decade ago for his views on women or something

[@DocMicrowave]

@@365ral Only saying both are being treated the same. Erase the original. Replace it with 'new'.

[@R-Blazer]

I'm just shocked Disney hasn't shelved this movie yet. Like, they already know it's bad, right? Or do they still think this dumb slop is the best way to go?

[@Elegance2104]

Unfortunately, it's too late for Disney to cancel the movie now because they have already spent over $300 million on making it. And canceling it now would be a huge financial loss for them.

[@P.Whitestrake]

Too expensive & too late to shelf it.

[@DocMicrowave]

Indeed. Too much money has been spent already. Too much time has been spent on it making/fixing it. They can't cancel it now. The longer it stays out of theaters, technically it continues to loose money. So they have reached their limit. They have to release it. Then try to recoup as much money as they can from the curious. Before it falls off a cliff from word of mouth.

[@ryannathaniel9296]

@@DocMicrowave They'll probably review embargo it like many of their movies. I'm suspicious Moana 2's success is from Disney not lifting the review embargo until a few hours before premiere

[@DocMicrowave]

@@ryannathaniel9296 SW will make a few bucks in the first weekend from the curious, the few who see no problem with it, and of course the critics who will watch it so that we don't have to. Word of mouth will kill it. Same thing happened to a couple of other Disney outings. Wish and Strange World. The movie won't have any legs. Yeah, there is a lot of funny business going on when it comes to the true public opinion numbers. Let's if Rotten Tomatoes shuts down their voting after the movie comes out.

[@Gonzalez541]

i liked gals "opinionated" voice in the leak trailer compared to the one Disney uploaded on KZbin.

[@Zeel-ko1ni]

Same, she actually sounds annoyed by Snow White and I think that fits her nature

[@chunellemariavictoriaespan8752]

Hell... She feels more villainous in that trailer... It was perfect!!! It's weird why they changed it...

[@VOLDGAMER1]

gal is going to carry this film

[@lunatic5162]

​@VOLDGAMER1 nice joke 😂

[@ChienaAvtzon]

I would not be surprised if the line from the leaked trailer, is the delivery from the movie.

[@dylanwong123]

Not only will this new Snow White live action remake will be a critical and box office failure, it’s more than likely will be nominated for the Razzie Awards. Mufasa will fail too given the fact that it will compete with and be overshadowed by Sonic the Hedgehog 3. Also, those CGI dwarves look like they belong in the Shrek franchise or The Polar Express. The CGI dwarves definitely make the CGI Scorpion King monster in The Mummy Returns look like Mona Lisa Smile.

[@chasehedges6775]

💯

[@zrowngctr]

From a visual perspective, the CGI Dwarves is what are being rejected the most, they're very unrealistic and not in a good way, more like uncanny valley nightmare fuel. As if often said, actual dwarven actors could have played those roles and much easier/lesser cost then CGI. To explain, in order to reshoot those scenes, Zegler would be performing in a empty room surrounded by green spheres on sticks and then the animation would have to be overlaid on top of that in post production. Mulan, Moana, Tiana, Raya, I think Disney did very well in cultural diversity without the issue being forced. For me personally, the Mulan live action is what caused me disinterest, the adaption was not what I expected, removing the charm of the original. And after that, I decided not to watch anything Disney produced that was a live action retelling of an existing animated movie. I am intrigued that the live action versions of the milestone movies are the ones failing the most, Snow White started Disney on the road to success and Little Mermaid saved the company from bankruptcy.

[@richardkev3077]

Why is it hated? Top 100 reasons: 1) Rachel Zegler 2) Dinklage ruining jobs for little people 3) Rachel Zegler 4) Wokified 5) Rachel Zegler 6) Destroying the legacy of the original 7) Rachel Zegler 8) terrifying CGI 9-100) Rachel Zegler

[@rabid4rachel]

You love saying her name huh?

[@NemysisPrime]

101) "Wierd, Wierd"

[@monicaaboites5053]

I know that there are people who claims that Rachel Zegler does not deserve all the backlash that she's receiving, but Gal Gadot, Gina Carano and Rowling didn't deserve being bullied by Zegler and her gang either. The problem with Zegler is that she bullying other people and after, she getting offended that people saying something for her bad attitude. For example, when she argues all people who support Trump didn't deserve peace. What she expect doing this? That people don't react ?

[@bottlethrower1544]

102) Vote from Harris or never know peace again. Thats flat out sinister, wishing harm on others

[@Elegance2104]

103) DEI agenda

[@omichan12]

If i was pitching a Snow White movie, I would have everything up to Snow meeting the dwarves be the same, but have the dwarves be outcasts from society, and have them be distrustful when they first meet Snow White because "normal people" have hurt them before. As they get to know her, they learn not all people are bad, and it's Snow who helps them reconnect with the nearby village, she who helps the townsfolk realize that the dwarves are also just people who deserve respect and community. That's what makes her "fair". The queen learns that Snow is alive through stories spreading from that village and back to her kingdom (which she confirms via magic mirror) and she decides to take matters into her own hands. The poison apple scene happens and Snow dies, the dwarves catch her in the act and chase her to town, where the villagers are told what happened by the dwarves. The town and dwarves work together to find the queen and her fate is /heavily/ implied, and instead of setting up the glass casket in the woods, it's given a place of honor in the town center, where the prince eventually comes across her and yadda yadda. It's essentially the same story but with some extra depth that isn't a war story. Because people can be strong in many ways, and it doesnt always have to be about "power". Strength can live in kindness.

[@rdphoenix07]

Now, see, I could get behind a story like this. It's amazing the so-called ''experts'' in the business can't come up with ideas like this that are nuanced and subtle.

[@Alias_Anybody]

The inspiration for the dwarves were originally people who were crippled by working in the mines as children. So yeah, outcasts.

[@evevoli]

this is a beautiful take, i would watch the hell out of this

[@DebiHoller]

I really like this idea. I would really watch this.

[@madi7178]

This idea absolutely honors all of the heart and care of the original. I hope I will get to see this in some detailed format one day.

[@Avarn388]

I have grown tired of the culture war crap and also just entertaining bad media( I watched a lot of good recent western media like Transformers one, Wild robot, shogun etc.) but this trailer looked horrible. It’s very clear they reshot this as you can tell from how Zegler looks and less said about the Dwarves the better. If Disney isn’t pumping out bad content that’s ideologically possessed then it’s soulless, mediocre remakes and sequels. But alas, that’s modern Disney. It’s sad. Luckily there’s still some good stuff out there.

[@annien.1727]

😡💢💢No, that's NOT modern Disney at all! There's NOTHING sad about it whatsoever! Stop with that pessimistic bullcrap!!! That's the stupidest thing you could ever say! Modern Disney is going to change for the better, and my friends and I are going to make that happen! Make no mistake about that!!! You want good stuff? Well, modern Disney CAN and WILL pump out many brilliant, dazzling and well-written movies instead of bad ideologically possessed content or soulless, mediocre remakes or sequels!!! You'd better watch what you say! I'm going to make Disney better again by creating many animated masterpieces based on my original ideas! If I were you, I'd quit the pessimistic crap and start working towards making Disney much better than ever before!!!

[@novakrabby]

7:55 you hit the nail, everything bad about "progessive" disney is this movie and the executives walked into the rake multiple times despite them knowing it and everyone else too

[@Gachagarry]

Corporations will never admit they messed up because of their ego and money. They still think the Antifa kids they want will give them money.

[@anneofcleveswithinternet]

Ratio'd Zegler

[@m0-m0597]

WEIRD! weird!

[@mkf628]

boss b and the seven simps

[@RayTheomo]

If snow white is so politically incorrect then just.....dont make a snow white movie.

[@AmethystEyes]

Thank you for pointing out the voice change, I hate that they did that. I’m guessing because they wanted to try to strip her identity. So cowardly on their part.

[@bmc9696]

They didnt want to strip her identity, dont be ridiculous, they changed her voice because she sounded awful.

[@disasterbi8610]

​@@bmc9696 Idk... I thought her delivery was pretty good for a Disney villian?? They're often written as campy (Hades, Scar, Jafar, etc.) and are portrayed that way in the voice acting. Those actors have huge range!! And extremely emotive voices. I thought Gal really nailed that part.

[@bottlethrower1544]

2:17 Love your "old soul". Very thoughtful, gives us hope for your generation

[@synical13]

It's like they're trying to patch every pothole in a road that's 90% potholes instead of just laying down a new road.

[@dylanwong6065]

This new live action Disney’s Snow White film will be one of Disney’s biggest failures. Although The Hunger Games prequel is the only successful film Rachel Zegler has, Rachel Zegler truly is the queen of box office flops. The original animated Disney’s Snow White is definitely a magnificent classic. Truth be told, Universal’s Snow White and the Huntsman is a lot better and more epic than this unnecessary remake. Like I said, Snow White and the Huntsman was at that time following in the same vein as The Lord of the Rings, The Chronicles of Narnia, and Game of Thrones. Ironically, Snow White and the Huntsman was released in the same year as the first Hobbit film, An Unexpected Journey and Game of Thrones season 2.

[@sammysstopmotionoas1996]

This movie is cursed.

[@chasehedges6775]

Definitely.

[@daniellavaladez7820]

For real

[@LindseyDisney]

The Devil hates Rachel Zegler. But God loves her.

[@ivancruz9795]

Yes, True.

[@LindseyDisney]

This movie is not cursed.

[@Luciphell]

Love listenin' to you break these things down for the slow people in the back. Never change!

[@mildlyderanged]

I think the whole racebending thing is overblown, there's a small, vocal group of people who care a LOT about this kinda stuff but most people wouldn't have batted an eyelid as long as the film was good. The issue is very much more the condescending "you're wrong for ever liking this film, you wanted a lovely story? How patriarchal" tone, on top of the general fatigue with lazy Disney remakes. We are watching the death throes of Disney, and it's because they drove the creatives out in favour of cynical money-people and people with weird political axes to grind.

[@chasehedges6775]

Disney is dead. No other way to say it.

[@InteractiveGamer-4558]

Eh...I say that's blown out of proportion as well. Yes, rachel did imply love isnt feminist but that's not to say she's shaming people that like the original movie to that extent

[@chasehedges6775]

@AGK1999FE Exactly. Movies just suck nowadays and its mainly due to laziness and lack of passion and willingness to take any kind of risk. I'm definitely not wasting my time on the Disney Snow White remake.

[@daniellavaladez7820]

Honestly, I’m so curious to see how this movie performs at the box office. This movie is going to FLOP big time.

[@heartlesslove9084]

It won't even reach worldwide

[@cacophonic7]

If you can’t tell Snow White, then write a new story. I know that’s too dangerous in Hollywood these days, but still. I want new things.

[@chasehedges6775]

As a 2001 Gen Z, I’m baffled that Rachel Zegler is part of my generation LOL. She seems insane/bonkers.

[@フランクランドン]

Same, she went wrong somewhere…

[@chasehedges6775]

Very wrong indeed.

[@davemac9563]

Honestly gen z are mostly insane so it’s not entirely shocking

[@chasehedges6775]

@@davemac9563 All generations, really, let's be brutally honest but yeah.

[@daniellavaladez7820]

She was also born in 2001 lol. I was born in 2000 and I think she’s annoying AF

[@skymario1012]

This is why anime has become so popular over the years. Because it doesn’t have the some politics behind it, it doesn’t try to pander to an audience that no longer exists, and it doesn’t tell you that the originals are old and outdated. It just makes a good story, or good entertainment. You got gargantia on the verdrous planet, one of the best series I have ever seen. Or you got cozy comedy’s like konosuba. And you got spy x family, with a bit of both. More people today know what haki is from one piece, then they do the force.

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

Speaking of race swaps we need to talk about what HBO is doing to Severus Snape. If the Snapewives don't charge in like rabid berserkers they never truly loved him.

[@RosesTeaAndASD]

I would actually support the Snapewives on THIS decision.

[@oofiexist1601]

Had no idea what your comment meant until I googled it. I can't believe I found out this way. But you know what the worst part is? I'm gonna be called racist for not liking the raceswap.

[@InteractiveGamer-4558]

This isn't even the case of race-swap since Rachel is still white. Why are we pretending like she isnt? Had she not been revealed as latina from that one article talking about the movie, you all wouldn't act like its a race swap.

[@wingsoffreedom3589]

@@oofiexist1601 racist in hollywood just means not treating black people like infantilized demi gods.

[@Everettescottortiz]

@@oofiexist1601 I don’t like it and I didn’t like the race swapping that went on in the last of us. And I will always reject it. Because it has nothing to do with quality. It has to do with an agenda. It’s stupid out right.

[@wkeezz]

6:26 it’s amazing how many people get upset for suggesting race swapping black panther or how upset people in Japan get for race swapping their characters. Maybe race swapping is a bad thing…

[@mariella2884]

“Who wants this movie to be made” Disney does. As they do with each live action remake. I truly hate to break the heart of those out there who believe Disney is in it for the fans. They released these to renew their hold on the ownership of the works preventing them from entering the public domain. This despite the fact that almost all of the original stories that built the company are public domain works from Europe 🤷‍♀️ ah the magic of greed Don’t believe me? Aladdin came out in Nov 1992, the live action? May 2019 27 years The work would’ve entered public domain at 28 years without renewal under US law. ❤

[@wesmcinerny4524]

Another not-so-good movie that just came out this year that Rachel Zegler is also in is Netflix and Skydance Animation's Spellbound.

[@chasehedges6775]

Won't watch it. Looks very generic anyway.😂😂😂😂😂

[@wesmcinerny4524]

@@chasehedges6775 I know, it's trying to copy Disney (even involved former Pixar talent John Lasseter), but it's also packed with bad humor and poorly-written story. Not to mention it's filled with modern references that will become dated in the next five seconds.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@wesmcinerny4524 The 2020s have been a horrible year for animated movies. Sigh.

[@acarter9277]

Spellbound also promotes divorce as being a good thing, making it not child appropriate. Very disappointing movie.

[@wesmcinerny4524]

@@acarter9277 Honestly, I don't get John Lasseter. He's a massive hypocrite in terms of creativity.

[@pablosonic892]

It's no Gladiator Too.

[@zeldie2375]

It was a fun movie but kinda underwhelming as a sequel to the original. It felt more “camp”

[@JurassicRod]

It looks so overly CGI and dull CGI at that with all the color sapped out of it. Why make it so drab like that, I don't get it? Why not use real sets and locations? It looks like the whole thing was green screened. Soulless.

[@chasehedges6775]

Very soulless and pathetic indeed. I'm not watching it

[@chasehedges6775]

Rachel Zegler is truly one of the actresses of all time😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@bottlethrower1544]

I see what you did there 😂

[@dcabral00]

Well, I do think that she will be remembered...🤔🤔🤫🤭

[@ScrambledAndBenedict]

I don't even consider her an actress. She got handed a golden ticket and blew it before she could even have it punched. Seriously, she was handed the starring role of THE definitive Disney Princess, and look at how bad she fucked it up. She's an "actress" the way a guy who wins the lottery and pisses it away on liquor and whores is a "successful financier".

[@Adventist1997]

​@@dcabral00 The blessing and a curse... 😞

[@iczev]

I'm starting to think Disney want people to actively hate them. There's absolutely no reason for so many screw ups, they must be gaining something from it.

[@madi7178]

If they declare the film a failure and the whole project gets declare bankruptcy I believe they get huge tax advantages but they still get to keep ownership rights to these characters. They are not afraid to fail, they are afraid of their properties going public.

[@jennaheiser625]

I don’t understand why Disney doesn’t want to keep making culturally interesting and diverse movies. People loved Encanto and Coco, because they have decent/good writing while being something fresher with good beats. Projects like Raya must have killed progress for their siblings.

[@lanagustafson1700]

News flash: you can be an independent woman but still have a desire for love. I’ve been single for a long time and I’m doing well but I still would like a partner

[@erikbihari3625]

And originally thought that the teaser was painful! Things change rather quicky now.

[@twoshieldsandsomemilk]

The worst part about the dwarves in particular is that they were the heroes in the original. They are who took Snow White in, helped her, fed her, and ultimately fought the witch to defend her. Disney could have focused on that angle, making them more prominent and heroic figures. As for the involvement of little people, personally I think Dinklage may just be trying to stay as the one usable little person in hollywood, but also you simply dont NEED to cast little folk as dwarves. Look at LotR and The Hobbit movies and how they were able to make both dwarves and hobvits look small while casting normal sized actors

[@RachelNichols-writer]

How about having the fairy tale retold from the dwarves' POV? That would have been different enough to make me want to see it.

[@twoshieldsandsomemilk]

@RachelNichols-writer that would be fantastic

[@MatameVideos]

FINALLY! Someone trashing on this film without racist or exaggerating on the political views of Zegler

[@bottlethrower1544]

Where have you seen this? I havent seen this. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You imply you have seen this many times in many places. 🤔

[@ScrambledAndBenedict]

Getting political is a two-way street. If one doesn't want to be challenged on their political views, they are free to not make them public. Her job was to promote this film, and she cocked that up by getting as political as possible. Discussing the political views of Zegler are 100% on-topic when discussing this film, because she used the fame and audience she got from the film to push her political views. As for "racism", if they don't want to be challenged on the race of a lead actress, then don't market their casting choices on racial diversity and don't culturally appropriate German culture to do it.

[@InteractiveGamer-4558]

Unfortunately some of the comments still don't understand

[@londonbordeaux]

ok Rachel

[@EmperorPiplup]

@@ScrambledAndBenedict Gal was also being political.

[@makhina8839]

My take on this movie is basically the same with more emphasis on Zegler putting a bullseye on herself for whatever reasons

[@Shutterbug5269]

The problem NBC had with the original Star Trek pilot was not the female first officer. The problem for them was Majel Barret whom Gene Roddenberry was cheating on his wife with. Advertisers (who held TV's purse strings) were very conservative about such things and would have pulled the funding over it.

[@AtesSu2006.]

Wait, are you serious

[@noble0155]

peter dinklage is everything wrong with woke hollywood in one tiny package

[@EchoObserver9]

Nah i think he is misunderstood by the wokes...

[@Kendro311]

Ever since that deal, I've referred to him simply as "Dink". Seems fitting.

[@Lemoncakelover678]

God forbid someone gives an opinion of how people like them are portrayed in media. Could it be the corporate Disney overlords who actually made that decision? No, it must be the actors fault!

[@nicholeharwood6283]

How dare a actual representative of an individual with achondroplasia speak out about his personal views on how Hollywood treats those with achondroplasia!

[@yurikendal4868]

"Woke?" Dinklage is woke...Thats so childish. No critical thought

[@oso1248]

Disney decided to killed this move the moment they cast Zegler.

[@EmperorPiplup]

mhm it was her fault lol and not the script and idea to cgi half the film lol

[@ictrlaltdeleteu]

Actor has an opinion people dont like. Grown folks throw fits and say this movie sucks. Movie isnt out yet.

[@startrekfangirl]

I think some of the princesses could have their race explored. However Snow White was set in stone. Her name was based on her skin color. Eh leave the classics alone and continue to create new diverse princesses.

[@InteractiveGamer-4558]

Rachel is literally white, what are you on about?

[@annaa3772]

​@@InteractiveGamer-4558 She's not very pale though. And she probably identifies as hispanic or latin. A white person with a tan would be just as miscast though.

[@southpawhammer8644]

It wouldn't be so bad if they told their actors to stop talking in public

[@TueSorensen]

This immense backlash seems to be largely happening only among conservatives (?). I'm a progressive; I have no beef with Zegler's statements at all; I think she is right and speaking entirely normally, like most others in the entertainment industry today. Will this movie make Disney believe that they have to start appealing more to conservative audiences again? I don't know - I suppose it's possible. Wouldn't bet on it, though. I feel sorry for Zegler that she has to bear the brunt of these conservative attacks. And is her Latina skin color really that much of an issue? No white person is actually SNOW white. She is of European extraction like any other Caucasian. I don't see much of a problem. I mean, I guess they could change the character's name to Sun Tan... Also, what abour Rose Red? Her younger sister from the original Grimm's fairy tale. Is she named for her red cheeks, red hair, red lips... red skin? It's just a fairy tale. Don't sweat it so much.

[@disasterbi8610]

Idk, Im as progressive as they come, but even I dislike this movie. I agree with the criticisms that say: 1. remakes are lazy and stifle up-and-coming talent with unique ideas 2. if disney doesn't like the snow white story, then dont make it again..? 3. disney doesn't care what audiences want, it just wants to make a quick buck off people's nostalgia, and make its shareholders rich. tldr: I'm not conservative, but this movie still strikes me as revisionist and lazy, which is a slap in the face to the intelligence of the viewer. And I'm not fond of that.

[@ChadIrish-mz2ir]

Disney destroyed what was a true and actual classic. WHITE WASHING 101. So messed up...

[@TomasFranceNice]

Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who’s the fairest of them all? Rachel (weird/weird): 👁️ 👄 👁️

[@mikeydflyingtoaster]

The absolute massacre of 'Be Prepared' in the new Lion King was a travesty. Actually, the whole movie was a travesty.

[@kuromyou7969]

Can't have kids knowing that Nazism is bad. 😂

[@Jokerfan45]

I believe Rachel said what she said to hype up the new movie, and she's a progressive person. Okay, that's fine. The problem is how she went about it because as a result of what she said, she ended up talking smack about Walt Disney's creation and legacy, thus putting a sour taste in people's mouths. That and apparently she complained on set about wearing a dress? I'm guessing she must have been having a bad day and just needed to vent. I don't believe she complained on any other film set. I don't believe Rachel is a bad person at all. I just think she has fruatrations she needs to let out, but is doing so at the wrong time and had no PR training at the time she talked about the original. The reason i defend her so much is because she reminds me of myself. I was in a postion similar to hers in high school. Mistakes I made cost me my reputation, and I looked like a bad person. Fortunately, once I went to college, I could start with a clean slate and meet new people who did not judge me. Thank goodness for that. I hope she comes around and understands what she is doing, and will improve her interactions with the public. And as a filmmaker in Texas, I would gladly give her work if she ever needed it.

[@KatallinaVT]

The inability or unwillingness to create new things + making drastic, sweeping changes to things people already love + half the country thinking we're in the midst of a cultural revolution + Mao's concept of destroying the four olds = disaster for something like this, even if that was not the intent. We keep being told that impact, rather than intent, is all that matters. Well, right back at ya.

[@KalElvis]

I can't believe you went on for 17 minutes about Snow White, but job well done. Very insightful and bright young lady.

[@chasehedges6775]

💯💯💯

[@marcelinovazquez5128]

Here are my thoughts on Rachel Zegler. The whole controversy surrounding her is stupid all she was doing was expressing her own opinion about the movie yet people treat it it's the worst thing ever said. Sure I'll admit that you could argue that she wasn't media trained properly but at the same time she was also mimicking Robert Downey Jr's style which was being snarky during interviews. RDJ is always is always praised for yet when Rachel Zegler tries to do something similar it's seen as condescending. That's a double standard right there. If you're going to say Rachel Zegler's a narcissist then it's only fair for me to argue that RDJ is a narcissist. Also it's sad that everyone focused on her Snow White comments when didn't say anything immoral like "George Floyd and Breonna Taylor deserved what happened to them, Holocaust doesn't exist, all school shootings are hoax funded by the government etc." She never any of those things yet I know a bunch of people who have said those things and tons of other bad things yet they are not deplatformed. I'm not even trying to say that the movie will be good or bad. I personally am tired of remakes. I'm simply saying to everyone "GROW THE FUCK UP" all this controversy is bullshit. You don't like the movie fine don't watch it no one is forcing you to watch it.

[@JCJW101]

She's still a narcissist, unbelievably unlikable, isn't a great actress and has probably single handedly killed this movie.

[@BlacEyedPriest765]

Why are we getting it as a movie again ohh wait money money money 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Touchgrassplz]

It's not about the money. We all know this movie will flop. The real reason is social engineering on a global scale.

[@joeshoe6184]

The root of the problem lies in Hollywoods inability, or unwillingness, to create anything new and original. Instead riding tired IPs into the ground, and re-imagining classic better off left alone.

[@erikbihari3625]

"Gasp, Gal Gadot was acting really badly"? Next you're gonna say that the sky blue!

[@matane2465]

She has zero acting talent. She's God awful.

[@matane2465]

Woman has no talent.

[@gracieloufreebush4899]

gadot can act when given the right material, in the fast franchise as giselle she was a beloved character, in wonder woman she carried herself very very well (when given the right script) and she has done a few projects in israel (tv series named khatmandu) her first dramatic role and she was great at it, keeping up with the joneses was also a great movie

[@erikbihari3625]

@gracieloufreebush4899 . Whatever floats your boat sweet cheaks.

[@lunatic5162]

​@gracieloufreebush4899 nope, she can't

[@Macronaso]

Imagine thinking that a story people have enjoyed and loved since the 1937 needed to be changed for people to enjoy it.

[@tsntana]

The one thing I might disagree with you about is that the film will make "zero dollars". Oh yes, the writing is on the wall that the film will massively bomb. But I think for Disney (and consequently other studios) to really start really rethinking their strategies, there needs to be a massive boycott. And I'm talking about empty theaters and no one waiting in line resulting in the movie being pulled early due to lack of ticket sales. It happened with the Jem And The Holograms movie. Sure, the studios might be able to shrug off a $5 million movie. They can't, and won't, shrug off $209 million.

[@vonholley]

great job on this video! your points and your tone throughout were spot on keep it up!

[@SnozberryMuffins]

12:46 I think you’re right. The point is equality, not topping the scale the other way. People lose sight and push their own narrative… that’s how we get here to Snow White

[@stargazer4142]

Snow white in the original was so kind and sweet, so willing to help people. Zegler's portayal is just monotone, negative, low effort. That's atleast how I feel about her version of the character, from clips I have seen.

[@pinklatte4655]

12:12 , thank you! 😂 Idk how to explain it but now I would love to see a princess saved or taken care of by a prince. It’s fantasy, please let women have a break and not have to be the strong independent person all the time 😂 I’m sure the kids see that in reality.

[@AQuietNight]

Race swapping is a bad idea, doesn't enhance a movie and can be very unhistorical. You want Black actors? Do a Black movie, do a movie in other eras or places. Otherwise they stand out like a sore thumb.

[@heartlesslove9084]

For real race swapping is so pathetic that ruined cinemas. As a brown girl I don't want anyone to represent my skin color because of political correctness. I saw animated snow white as white girl my vision will remain white girl in movies too.

[@matane2465]

​@heartlesslove9084 Adriana Caselotti, her original voice actress, was of an Italian background and had a light brown skintone.

[@AQuietNight]

@@matane2465 Southern Italians can come in darker.

[@Bogiiiiiiiiiiiiii]

@@matane2465her skin color is the most stereotypical skin tone for Italians, classic olive. I get darker than her when I tan in the summer 😂Let’s be realistic, considering how racist Disney was back then would they have really hired someone who wasn’t white? I do believe that people are overreacting about Rachel being casted for Snow White but saying the original VA was a person of color is a stretch.

[@InteractiveGamer-4558]

Wrong movie buddy, rachel is still white.

[@mad_quack]

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

[@skepticalsmurf]

I concur,l’m so tired of reboots,prequels and sequels,l remember a time when 🐭would bring out a fresh new 2D animated project annually,there are plenty of folktales,original stories to draw from,but mainstream Hollywood would rather take the safe route with known IPs 🤔

[@chasehedges6775]

Revenge Of The Sith(2005) is a good prequel but yeah, same here

[@skepticalsmurf]

@ agreed,ROTS was my favorite of the prequels,unlike those horrible Alien entries(not everything needs to be explained,some mystery enhances the storyline/lore)🤔

[@wightrat1207]

Making new, "corrected", versions of these films are an attempt to bury the original versions.

[@liamgray2855]

Why, just why

[@InteractiveGamer-4558]

Money!

[@dudeihatethispart3926]

@14:44 Finally; someone who uses the phrase "modern audience" correctly. Thank you.

[@DanielBMaximoff]

I don't care for Gemini "Gem" Stone from Sabrina. Talk about James Gunn's Creature Commando.

[@mrhaag]

Wrong about Star Trek. That's the narrative that Gene Roddenberry put out. The real reason was that the studio didn't like that he'd snuck his girlfriend into the cast and was openly cheating on his wife. When he forced her in as Chapel later they were also ticked off but decided to not fight it.

[@Skynertia]

The movie completely disregards the fact that millions of young boys watched Snow White too and saw themselves in the Prince. Telling them that falling in love and trying to save the one you love from death is corny and unnecessary and that a story of women's empowerment without you and Snow's drive for revolution is what people need to see is never going to sell. Falling in love isn't the weakness Rachel makes it out to be. It's a strength that it seems like many in the western world have learned to forget.

[@HammerHeart3229]

What Disney and what a lot of these movie studios do these days with all these reboots and remakes is an attempt to re-write history because they view a lot of these classic movies and stories from the past as offensive that go against the current progressive ideology and therefore must be corrected. With Disney and the Snow White remake in particular, I'm not sure if calling it cultural vandalism is a bit too extreme but boy... It feels like it sometimes!

[@shamarremp7089]

Well said, I 1000% agree.

[@chasehedges6775]

Same

[@cosmicspacething3474]

They’re missing the point that the Evil Queen was missing the point. It was ALWAYS Snow white’s personality, and values that made people love her. The Evil Queen didn’t care about being a good person, she just wanted to be loved without having to reciprocate any of it.

[@fantasyfox965]

Disney himself didn't like the idea of sequels or remakes, I think I heard. In all honesty, there's so many different versions of Snow White that it's just a 'meh, another Snow White' movie to me. That and I'm not impressed with Rachel Ziegler. I didn't care much for her performance in Hunger Games

[@dellmetalz]

" The pinnacle of people's frustrations." Perfectly stated. 😎🤓🖖🤙

[@TheHorrorMiserMontyG]

I was waiting for your video when this trailer was release this week (much to my surprise). As I stated before, they should have cast someone else as Snow White as I believe Rachel Zegler is miscast (not due to her race, I simply don't believe in her acting). If wanted to go and see this film, I would be going because I want to see Gal Gadot because she looks and acts way better than Rachel in this film.

[@theflyingdropbear2009]

the thing that irritates me, is that they want to "correct" a movie that doesn't really need correcting, because as they "correct" a movie, they are taking away the charm that made the movie so beloved in the first place. this is something that Disney needs to rediscover, I think they can, but they need a reality check to set them back on the right path.

[@rubenduenas5881]

Is it bad that I want to see how bad this flops? Outside of Rachel Zegler (overhated btw), we have Gal Gadot's involvement with the war and reduction of dwarves to CGI. One way or another, Disney is NOT WINNING with this movie.

[@P.Whitestrake]

She's not overhated. She's perfectly hated. She tried to cancel other actors like Gina Carano for their opinions, always inserting politics, literally telling most Americans to never know peace.

[@rubenduenas5881]

@@P.Whitestrake Is her response to Trump winning immature? Yes But it's not worth getting mad over.

[@gracieloufreebush4899]

what´s gadot´s involvement with the war? she´s just israeli, she´s not idf, she served her mandatory 2 years, should we have cancelled every american actor back in the day for their "involvement" in the vietnam war?

[@rubenduenas5881]

​@@gracieloufreebush4899 That's....actually a good point. It's just that people that supported Palestine were upset that Gal Gadot identified as a Zionist. I forgot that Mel Brooks and James Earl Jones served in the army...

[@InteractiveGamer-4558]

It's definetly gonna flop, I'm shocked disney is STILL doing this after Mulan flopped hard.

[@Beast_better]

Easy to understand and informative. Thank you for the video!

[@Rashi-RJ]

The person playing snow white, pissed off millions of people by spewing hate. The movie is woke. Not up to standards of the old classic. Leave the classic alone. Make something new.

[@InteractiveGamer-4558]

Woke means awareness of the injustice, often originated in african-american communities. Wrong word.