How a Film as BAD as Joker: Folie a Deux Got Made

[@OrthoLou]

It is BEYOND WEIRD that a movie dedicated to Phoenix, apparently inspired by his dream, features him getting... erm.. violated...

[@parrotshootist3004]

Sometimes it's called a dream, because nightmares are so much worse.

[@dwbryant13]

@@parrotshootist3004this is an incredibly pretentious outlook

[@Bagman07]

I think the ending chosen, was all Todd Philips.. Phoenix supposedly said it was "Horrible"

[@MicahMicahel]

@@Bagman07I think Philips is taking the pr fall for phoenix. Directors have to babysit and molly coddle phoenix. He knew he wouldnt get $20 million without Phoenix so he just did what Phoenix wanted.

[@RacingSnails64]

LOL oof. I'm assuming that was Philips' decision to "take Joker down a peg."

[@Error-000]

You go sis, get that YT money to refund your movie ticket

[@beauwalker9820]

Y'know, when George Clooney did "Batman and Robin," he said he would personally pay out of his pocket anyone a ticket refund to anyone who disliked that movie. I'd rather watch that than Joker 2.

[@hermitcard4494]

Totally deserve the refund.

[@HOTD108_]

Refund implies that the ticket fee isn't still going towards the movie. It's not a refund unless the money you get back is taken from the pockets of the people who sold you the thing you bought.

[@joshgamingvlogs5203]

Real

[@tandcatthemovies9818]

You did zero research for this.

[@JoseRodriguez-un2kc]

I love the first Joker movie and when I heard about the ending of Joker 2... I said to myself, why would I go see a film that is intentionally going to piss me off and waste my time... I don't understand the logic.

[@deathbysloth]

Most creative people need limitations to guide them. Free reign sounds good, but constraints demand creative solutions.

[@idiot_city5444]

Exactly.

[@Cosmicshambler]

Agreed that's why James Gunn's dc shit sucks

[@Cosmicshambler]

Agreed that's why James Gunn's dc shit sucks

[@beauwalker9820]

That's because there's nobody to tell them something may be a bad idea. Even the most creative people are not infallible, and human too. They need people of various opinions to help them.

[@chasehedges6775]

💯💯💯True. Have creative free reign is great but having and knowing the limits is crucial.

[@phil8821]

I hope Todd appreciates the fans of his new film... all 3 of them.

[@juancarlosrivera5689]

Theres more than 3 ass

[@dereklopez9060]

Even Heath Ledger's Joker would laugh at this movie.

[@gaylordpickmang2076]

Even Jared Leto’s joker?

[@idiot_city5444]

He'd take a doodoo on the blu ray

[@aurahoneydew9607]

​@@idiot_city5444now now the man was still classy

[@beauwalker9820]

"Ha... ha... Haaaa... And I thought my jokes were bad."

[@HOTD108_]

Didn't that Joker "just want to watch the world burn"? He'd probably love this movie!

[@Ax9005]

I started a joke which started the whole world crying But i didnt see that the joke was on me…

[@iy8-z1o]

I was literally listening to this song just yesterday lol

[@ClassicHarleyQuinn]

To be fair that first 2016 SS trailer is good but it was a different film back then.

[@notyouraverageharleyquinnstan]

🤡🤡

[@micmaliss]

Nice!!!

[@Ididtherightthing]

It’s not funny when you’re the punchline

[@notyouraverageharleyquinnstan]

I can not believe that this is what Todd did with this film. The wasted potential is nuts! Joaquin and Gaga are great, but they were wasted in this travesty. Half of the leaked footage we saw was cut from the movie anyway. I was very trusting in Todd. Guess the joke was on me🤡

[@MrTigracho]

Owning people was more important that doing something of genuine meaning, apparently

[@notyouraverageharleyquinnstan]

@@MrTigracho ikr, apparently🫤

[@MrTigracho]

@@notyouraverageharleyquinnstan To be fair, what he did was to own people he didn't like, rather than just...deconstruct them. Can you imagine Joker and Joker 2 a movie in which is a deconstruction of the type of person Todd wanted to own? But that would have required for him to go out of his box of thought and worldview, to go and understand, rather than trying to satisfy his own ego.

[@notyouraverageharleyquinnstan]

@@MrTigracho very true. I wish he didn't go this route

[@kdkseven]

Isn't this what happened with The Matrix Resurrection? Director doesn't want to make sequel, studio wants that money, director relents because that money, makes a piece of shit on purpose.

[@thatHARVguy]

Malicious compliance.

[@alexanderpabon2933]

Then let someone else take over! I'm so tired of this excuse. If you don't want to direct and write a certain film-don't. By sabotaging a franchise, you sabotage potential profit and work for other people.

[@jasonisjasondoes]

That director doesn't make the best decisions though, doubt it was purposefully done.

[@mikeg2491]

@@alexanderpabon2933I don’t think it’s so much they don’t want to do it, rather if you’re going to ruin my movie that didn’t need a sequel with a sequel, well by god I’ll ruin it my way. I still think WB/DC deserves more scorn than Philipps for green lighting it in the first place.

[@alexanderpabon2933]

@mikeg2491 Again, that's a silly argument. I don't want so and so to ruin what I created, so I'll do the sequel and purposefully ruin it myself. Nonsense. Just because someone takes over doesn't mean it's going automatically suck. Heck, they could add further insight into the world you've created.

[@David2040-q4t]

Joker is the right story for the right time acted in very complex way sending message to society . Joker 2 is just for the money - completely opposite what first part talks about.

[@monicaaboites5053]

How is possible that the fanfics around this movie would be a better second part than the official second part?

[@IIIII282]

Any fanfic recommendations?

[@moonlightrobbery]

Because they were made with love and respect. Funny, that.

[@notyouraverageharleyquinnstan]

@@monicaaboites5053 ikr

[@notyouraverageharleyquinnstan]

@@IIIII282 I recommend The Laughing Man

[@harleybtasfan90s]

Todd promised us gold and gave us crap. I was so excited for this movie and he destroyed it. I liked Gagas Harley but she was put in an awful movie and underused. Thanks a lot Todd and Joaquin!

[@erikbihari3625]

Same way every bad sequel gets made;"the studio gives their hired filmakers blank checks and free reign", then this just what happens!

[@keithmichael112]

You should welcome input even if you end up ignoring it

[@erikbihari3625]

@@keithmichael112. You mean like George Lucas? Well(3x)!

[@erikbihari3625]

@@Rena_2000. What about pulpy movies like Joe Johnston and Steven Sommers?

[@abelincoln8885]

You Liberal are truly the dumbess fqs on the planet. All the musical scenes ... were in the minds of Arthur & Lee ... and symbolized "madness." Arthur rejected the Joker persona he created, returned to sanity, took responsibility for his crimes, pleaded to Lee to stop singing (madness) & talk normally ... and was just stabbed to death by the real Joker ... he & Lee .... created.

[@wachinimagaming4898]

Wonder Woman 1984 basically

[@rickboy7290]

Todd Philips and Joaquin Pheonix both repeatedly said they did not want to make a sequel. Todd hated the fact that people loved and related to Arthur fleck in the first film. Honestly, this movie felt like it was made to destroy the Arthur Fleck character and any association with the Joker by claiming he is not even the real Joker. It was also dead set on spiting anyone who liked the first film because we were not supposed to like the the character in the first film. It went as far as to violate ,degrade and deliberately assassinate Arthur Fleck's character. In the original movie, he represented a character who gave the finger to the system and society. People related to that. And it feels like Joaquin Phoenix agreed to have his character destroyed and buried so he would have nothing to do with it anymore. It feels as if Todd Philips went as far as saying he would only do the movie if it was a musical, hoping warner bros would let it go, instead they threw money at him, and then he was like "fuck" and couldn't really say no. So this movie feels like he did it in a way where neither he nor Joaquin would be asked to do another one ever again, by killing Arthur Fleck and went as far as saying he isn't even the Joker... this other guy is... so it leaves the ball in the studio's court do whatever the "F" they want to do with the character. Regardless it just seems like a shitty thing to do. And the first movie on its own merits stands as one of the greatest films I have ever seen. I love that film. It just sucks that they chose to not build on what it started.

[@Vilgax00]

11:07 Cant wait for that video.

[@robbyroba]

Remember that one episode of South Park where people in San Francisco were smug and smelled their own farts? Feels kind of like that with Phillips.

[@NexusKin]

Considering that people actually crap on the streets of San Francisco in real life, I'd say that doesn't surprise me one bit.

[@TheGardenSamurai]

Out of 200 mil, 53 mil went to 3 people that’s wild af

[@floraposteschild4184]

I still don't see where the money went.

[@novakrabby]

this feels like a fake movie inside a Joker movie that would cause him to threat the whole city because he feels disrespected

[@mikenayers5981]

My favorite scene is when he has the bloody diaper on, and he asks people if they want to know how he got those scars.

[@gooshy8312]

HR Geiger suffered from night terrors, which can't be recalled, but as I understand it, you wake up completely freaked out. Very unpleasant. But he gave us the original Xenomorph, so there's that. His art, perhaps, was his subconscious working things out.

[@idiot_city5444]

He had a fascinating mind

[@gooshy8312]

@@idiot_city5444 And was a nice guy. He grew up in a little mountain village (Switzerland, I think). Paid to have the main road "repaved"; it was cobblestone. Put his museum there to try and drive some tourism, and was building a Ghost Train. He was definitely giving back.

[@freemonwicher3840]

I just need to get this said, I know I'm in the extreme minority of people who love batman stuff and musicals when done well. This film was damaging to me in ways most people wouldn't get. I've been dreaming of doing a long term joker related music project for a while so this for me was like seeing a preview of what could be done with my ideas, and I walked out of the theater feeling genuinely shell shocked. I am now extremely self conscious about wearing my joker love on my heart because I don't want people to ever associate joker or us fans with these films ever again, I can only hope we can get better joker stuff in the future after we memory wipe this nightmare like game of thrones...

[@gooshy8312]

First, the people who would think ill of you for liking a _good_ Joker movie are the same people who made this movie - Hollywood nitwits, and the WORST of that lot. So, eff those bastards. 2. Some 'life' advice - never concern yourself with what others think of you. Or anything, really. It's really pointless , because you're not going to change the opinions of those people. But worse, it's a near-certain road to a neurotic, OCD plagued shell. God doesn't even ask for that. He's all about free will.

[@tonyhacker5980]

Fuck the haters, wear what makes you happy. If they clown on you, clown em right back. Do some joker shit lol. It may take awhile, but Joker is too popular for one flop to ruin him. Given some time, we may see a well made joker production in the future.

[@gooshy8312]

@@tonyhacker5980 THIS.

[@heyspellicup]

I guess this serves as a lesson. Sometimes executive meddling is needed to keep a creator in check for the sake of a quality product.

[@rinwesley3092]

This is nuts! They could have come up with a good sequel. How could they not have a story to follow up from the first film? I know there is lots wrong with this film, but I want to point out the mistake of introducing Harley too early. Fleck needed more time and opportunities to flesh out his Joker persona. This story should have been about the rise of his villainy. Ugh...so many character developments they absolutely overlooked.

[@loliH9]

More like Fully a Deuce. Teeheehee.

[@Agesilaus.88]

I heard Cartman's laugh.

[@studio96films65]

After this Joker 2 situation it makes me think maybe we were too harsh on Zack Snyder. At least he didn’t blame the fans to my knowledge for his movies not doing well or resonating with fans.

[@andrewmedley]

He did actually

[@studio96films65]

@@andrewmedley oh then never mind. I didn’t like his DCEU movies but I thought maybe he’d just take the L. But I was wrong.

[@ClassicHarleyQuinn]

At the end of the day they should have just left it as 1 film.

[@norm-bb3bb]

Yep, Joker 2 is not canon in my mind

[@hd4100]

You know Lady Gaga got her paycheck

[@TheInstantClassic86]

$20 MILLION?!?!?! It’s like he’s(Todd Phillips) getting ready to retire from showbiz and did a one last score payday to secure himself after retirement.

[@ashhhhhhhhhhhhhhh]

The factors around how this film came to be made are definitely more interesting than the film itself

[@devofficialchannel]

DC's own Fant4stic, I'd say.

[@ereini0n]

His death didn't make more cents than his life 😢

[@Valeska2k]

.. Must of been a hell of a dream Joaquin had. ... Joker 2 . Male prison r4pe the musical. Shaving scene. Guard throws a towel at Arthur . "Clean your self up" . Shaving cream around Arthur's mouth and face .. (facial?) .... Inmate says "the GUARDS say your a good kisser" (plural) , main guard tells Arthur " you STILL think your a star"? (Very r4pey vibes)

[@LaPaisiblePetiteGnomette]

That's what happens when two narcissists decide to write a script 🤦🏻‍♀️ L Todd, L Joaquin...

[@aaronbood1999]

I feel disappointed as I avoided trailers for the film and stayed away from reviews, to then find out about it being a dud. Glad I missed a bullet

[@Mysticmegster1]

Not doing test screenings. What was Todd Philips thinking?

[@c0de0gre]

With any luck, this bomb might do to Todd Phillips what Heaven's Gate did to Michael Cimino

[@Jammsbro1]

The amount of careers affected, businesses that will feel for this is absolutely the reason why phillips should never be allowed to direct again. Paying these people that amount of money to deliberately sabotage a project should mean that the studio can take him to court.

[@NerdcoreWasTaken]

ngl, they MIGHT actually talk about this fall-off in media class a couple years from now.

[@JurassicRod]

It does feel like another nail in DC's coffin. Even The Batman didn't seem like it made a massive cultural impact.

[@danse777macabre]

I found the batman utterly forgettable

[@JurassicRod]

@@danse777macabre Same

[@karls8989]

i don't think we have to worry about james gunn ever letting todd phillips near a dc property again

[@Clambamthankyoumam]

Lesson learned here and its that we should only listen to Christopher Nolan and never to Todd Phillips under any circumstances since Nolan cares about and respects his fans whereas Phillips doesn’t give two shits about them at all!

[@mikeburkhart8336]

Too much ego handed too much money,a proven disaster every time.

[@Bagman07]

Arthur gets raped, and killed at the end. Also the musical aspect was Phoenix idea, but the ending and direction was all Todd Philips, and phoenix didn't like it.

[@GaryNac]

Nothing like being completely crapped on and being screwed in more ways then one throughout the whole entire friggen movie.

[@Keurgui1]

The Kirby shirt goes so hard

[@jameshurley6513]

Joker by Brian azerello is a better joker story than joker 2! I would love to see that get adapted into a movie

[@beauwalker9820]

Even an animated one would be nice. Surprisingly DC's animated movies were better than their live action ones.

[@MRF1983]

​@@beauwalker9820Emphasis on "were." The animation uses that same gray filter now you see in Marvel animation that mutes bright colors and the adaptations have gotten wildly far from their source material. The Death of Superman added Cyborg Superman being tied to Darkseid for no apparent reason, Superman: Red Son turned Bizzaro into a commentary on toxic American culture, Apokolips War smashed together Futures End and Darkseid War and was a gratuitously violent mess; yadda, yadda.

[@furrygecko]

“I don’t think he deserves to ever work again.” THANK YOU! I come from a different entertainment industry (video games) and I’ve said this again and again about clueless designers and execs that waste years of dozens if not hundreds of developers’ lives with their hackery -and then GET TO DO IT AGAIN. Gargantuan paydays should come with huge responsibility and accountability. It’s refreshing to see someone boldly state the obvious: DON’T REWARD THEM WITH MORE WORK. Thank you 👍

[@juuchanIRL]

this movie will be a case study for years. for the opposite reason as the original.

[@JamesMiller-ce1df]

Thanks, JB, for the explanation. Now, I, also, can bid adieu to Folie a Deux.

[@austinauthor846]

The ego of Todd Phillips is perplexing in ways I have yet to find in an industry soaked in its own delusion of grandeur. Todd Phillips would have been a made man as a director if all he did was deliver even a halfway decent to pretty good Joker sequel. Then he could left and been spoken of in the same ranks as Christopher Nolan. But because the 'wrong' fans liked his work, he dialed up a turd in response, and now the dude will be lucky to get a straight to streaming comedy about fart jokes and cancel culture. He's finished.

[@homerhat420]

The Hangover 2 didn't do anything either, Hangover 3 was an insult to people who liked the first, this isn't the first or second time he's done this

[@Joe-hh8gd]

Ummmm...no. Cameron's Terminator influences came from two Outer Limits written by Harlan Ellison. That's why he has a special credit. Thought this was common knowledgeable to most.

[@TheHorrorMiserMontyG]

Unfortunately, Todd Phillips will always have the last laugh as he walks about with a 20 million salary and we get stuck with a terrible film that nobody wanted in the first place.

[@workaholick]

another Matrix 4 situation....WB can't win.

[@Paxtin]

This doesn't come as much of a surprise to me, as I remember, Todd said as much that he didn't respect comic book films back when he made the first one. I believe in an interview he said something along the lines of how the Joker was him wanting to make a "real film". Ultimately, the success of the first Joker was kind of a weird fluke.

[@andrewlol9095]

WB wanted a sequel, Todd Phillips didn’t. Todd saw that paycheck and thought maybe it could use a sequel.

[@dankyuji2072]

It's a shame that this time is so difficult for you and me and all the other fanatics out there and I hope that at some point a film will come out that will reawaken our love for whatever fanshise.

[@jamesmcgowen9696]

There is an old saying in the film industry: You never let the inmates run the asylum!

[@thebombsquadtv6151]

yo i seen you post like 4 videos in the last week about this movie like damn this is pure and unadulterated hate😭😭😭

[@ClassicHarleyQuinn]

A universal opinion. It is not a film people like.

[@ManuKULU]

I only seen 3 posts with this one included and it's not enough. Fuck this movie.

[@tonyhacker5980]

Well placed and righteous anger at this garbage, I'd call it.

[@WhatDoesCoreyThink]

You've earned my sub. I like the way you think. Great work!

[@M567dk]

Between Joaquin Phoenix and Jared Leto I think the big question is which actor is weirder ?

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Todd philips created the very fans he supposedly hates. He was the one who made the movie and complained about not being able to do comedy anymore. But i get it. I hate joker 2019 and its superfans too who hype it up.

[@marco31]

Art the Clown is a better Joker.

[@erikbihari3625]

Did you guys know that Robert Rodriguez based sharkboy and lavagirl entirely upon the dreams one his kids had? And people wonder why failed?

[@beauwalker9820]

Actually, it's become a cult classic with kids, and had success on home media. In fact, they're supposedly making a sequel.

[@erikbihari3625]

@@beauwalker9820. Whatever you say, most people had terrible time watching and reviewing that, and sequels didn't seemed fairing mutch better!

[@HOTD108_]

​@@beauwalker9820Well yeah, of course people who saw it as kids will think it's good. That's how nostalgia works. Nostalgia is when you like something just because you saw it when you were younger, and thus it intrinsically reminds you of being younger and that's a feeling most people like. To put it another way, nostalgia is when you like something for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with the actual quality of something. There are people who'll defend the worst films ever made in the history of cinema purely because they first saw it when they were literal babies.

[@mightguy3118]

Every single person who's defended this Garbage only excuse is "YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE MOVIE 🤓"

[@フランクランドン]

In other words, they’re all the same.

[@nikkili8944]

YT recommended me a video about Joker 2 that's titled: "Joker fans are too stupid to understand Joker 2." I think it's kinda interesting that people who share the same contempt for so called "comic book fans" just as Philips does tend to hate the first Joker movie and like Joker 2 at least that's what I've noticed. It's almost as if they get a kind of enjoyment and excitement out of it. They like to see fans suffer. That's really f'ed up...

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

They sound like Snyder fans. “iTs tWo suHmArHt fOr yOoOo ReeEEeE!!”

[@mrhaag]

I'm pretty sure James Cameron had a dream after watching the original Westworld. An out of control robot chasing a dude and seeing everything with very early thermal vision.

[@nicodemous52]

Don't say it's the last, you can't know that for sure. Something new could come up you are compelled to make a video on.

[@jbader96]

Whoah it still says seconds ago, refreshed at the right time. This movie sucks, do a Velma video lol

[@VALonYouTube]

Your attitude at the very first second says it all. 😂 Glad I subscribed when I did.

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

Great video, JB...👍

[@jake90052]

That 200 million coud've gone to charity. Take that in, someone was paid 20 million dollars to make a film saying they don't like you. Good lord

[@jordanowen42]

1:24 the idea for Terminator came to James Cameron after he ripped off Harlan Ellison. Ellison threatened to sue for IP theft and now the credits for the first Terminator acknowledge that it was based on his writing.

[@KaiHouston-m6j]

Why do folks make movies that critics will like? How many tickets do critics buy? SMH

[@joejoyce8031]

George Lucas actually didn’t have a studio tell him what to do, he paid for it all himself. Different situation….

[@jeanferguson9063]

They couldnt just make a story about the character, and they were going in a really good path with the first.. 🤷

[@nicodemous52]

And give yourself some grace. You didn't defend the movie per se. You just didn't condemn it without seeing it. Nothing wrong with having an optimistic outlook, even as cynical as I am.

[@MonsterKidCory]

"He was a good enough sort of cretur, and hadn’t no harm in him, and was just a genius, as the papers said, which wasn’t his fault. We can’t all be sound: we’ve got to be the way we’re made. As near as I can make out, geniuses think they know it all, and so they won’t take people’s advice, but always go their own way, which makes everybody forsake them and despise them, and that is perfectly natural. If they was humbler, and listened and tried to learn, it would be better for them." - Mark Twain, "Tom Sawyer Abroad"

[@jaredrobinson7071]

it'd be hilarious if this wins an oscar. I'll just laugh and laugh and laugh. Well shit I guess that's the jokers MO so mission accomplished?

[@micmaliss]

Now the blame game begins. Why? Just like I said on the video I did on my channel; lawsuits! The paying customer could be getting their money back which means they get nothing. A complete loss.

[@langreeves6419]

An original take that respected the audience. I appreciated and liked it.

[@Alijamaru]

The true joker here was Todd, not sure if he wanted to troll the fans, the studio or himself

[@CuJoProductions2492]

When I saw this movie last Saturday, I kept thinking to myself, "This is horrible. This feels like Todd Phillips didn't even wanna make this"...😅 I wanted to like this movie, but it basically did everything wrong. Wish I saw Transformers ONE a 3rd time instead 🤣

[@jethropeters4686]

Love your anger! Let it roar!!!

[@Axisjampa]

Well, that's what happens for having a good script with forced famous DC characters on it. It's worse when you read that Phillips wanted to destroy the praise of the first film because of incels rooting for the bad guy. Nothing makes sense with this film.

[@shenotski]

Hate to break it to yo9u but terminator was ripped off from several Harlan Ellison stories, he sued and they had to acknowledge his works at the end of terminator 1 which is why that credit exists.

[@csebesta84]

Well to be fair to Todd Phillips, it seems like a lot of movie critics are bought and paid for these days i.e. The Acolyte.

[@fakshen1973]

I blame inept studio executives who have zero qualifications to be in their positions.

[@Dam-a-fence]

I find no use in blame, actions matter, blame is pointing at failed actions, which is then made failing harder. I'd do the 'what's that saying about "X"' thing, but I don't want to this time. "Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely."

[@ashhhhhhhhhhhhhhh]

Y'know 🤔 I might respect it if he'd had the conviction to blow a tonne of cash on making a Broadway show

[@russellharrell2747]

‘This is the last video I’ll ever make on Joker 2’ Oh thank god! We will hold you to it! Most channels only did one video, and that was too many. Maybe we can finally put this national nightmare behind us.

[@Scartofen101]

This movie is so bad like Jared Leto’s Joker.🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@floraposteschild4184]

Phillips had major creative control and final cut -- rare in a big budget film like this. And created a big disaster, reminiscent of the 1970s-early eighties, where hot directors were given virtual free rein: Heaven's Gate, New York, New York, One From the Heart, Sorcerer, etc. etc. Big swings, big hits or big misses.

[@doro626]

When I heard this was a musical, I thought, then you should have put it on Broadway like mean girls. Spiderman turn off the dark was on broadway, but this stuff does make it there sometimes.

[@voodoochild420ai]

great video, some very interesting stories behind this movie

[@cringekalakaar7676]

Hey Jester... How Can I contact you for Business related work?

[@GaryNac]

Exactly like with a dangerous phycheward ward patient this should not have ever been allowed to be released out into the public.

[@arc683]

Nooo need more Joker 2 videos from you lol

[@MissMCwuffles]

I remember being excited for this film, and I'm a bit sad this was the result. Still, I'm glad reviewers like you let me know not to waste my money.

[@agirlnamedbrett.]

having Terminator as a dream is wild and terrifying.

[@RacingSnails64]

I just can't believe Todd Philips made both Joker 1 *and* Joker 2... I mean the attitude behind the two films is so radically different, like they were made by completely different people.

[@andrewharris1344]

Honestly this wouldn’t be as bad if he didn’t use Jokers or any DC charcters name to create hype for his own film. You can’t call something trash but try to use it’s legacy to boost your own.

[@thepagecollective]

So, they made a movie that made everyone mad. Hmm, it's almost like the movie the Joker would make.

[@TheChadTI]

Even if Superman is good, it's probably going to bomb