Reboots - Game Sack

Episode 171 - Sometimes publishers take a franchise and rebuild it from scratch for whatever reason. Let's check out some of those games and see how they compare with the originals!
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[@MetalJesusRocks]

Joe has the best hair. #Jealous

[@uriahh4932]

I love it when channels like these reference one another. Vita for LIFE! I recently received my imported physical copy of Dragon Quest Builders for the system...and i'm hooked!

[@russwaddel08]

Good one Metal Jesus! Love your show too! You have given me some awesome advice on hidden gems.

[@jw6588]

MetalJesus probably has the best hair among gamer gents though.

[@Therealmadkong]

No Metal Jesus come back. I want to know if Ninja Gaiden is a hidden gem.

[@g1nobleteam]

Ask Bob Cornhole, he's an expert in that subject.

[@michielkroder4031]

There's this really cool game on the original Xbox that you might not have heard of. It's called Halo: Combat Evolved. Total hidden gem.

[@jplegend98]

theres this real hidden gem on the nes called duck hunt. total steal. proper unkowen

[@gruenerApfel666]

Halo? Okay, im gonna google that.

[@michielkroder4031]

Yeah man, nobody ever seems to talk about it... in the old people's home around the corner.

[@ethanlaborde]

That Metal Jesus reference made me burst out laughing.

[@Mchenrygames]

someone should reboot Greendog

[@Tigermoto]

Please no.

[@CarozQH]

The Beached Surfer DUDE!

[@mrhygiene]

if I wasn't on mobile I'd upvote that comment. GREENDOG

[@Dorelaxen]

Meh. I'm hoping for that gritty, realistic reboot of Sunday Funday.

[@scottcowan7343]

Greendog: Beached once more. Please don't do that.

[@rodrigofigueiredo8341]

Metal Jesus unnexpected "appearance" made me laugh my ass off.

[@chrishowson2031]

I love that "rise, from your grave" in Altered Beast. I have that as my morning alarm.

[@JohnRiggs]

Still waiting for a Little Nemo: The Dream Master reboot, though it'll never happen. Great video, as always. Love the mock-MJR pop-up.

[@Candle_Calmness]

No just no

[@DonutSwordsman]

isnt it getting remade? i swear i saw a trailer for it

[@SonofTiamat]

They need to reboot Act Raiser

[@Night-Jester]

I loved that game. I guess if it gets the Duck Tales remake polish then I would play it again.

[@jasonciafre6958]

agree, little nemo is a very underrated game. I would be all over a little Nemo reboot/remake whatever.

[@hybridplc]

Prince of Persia has a 60 minute time limit, only the Super Nintendo version got a 120 minute limit because the levels aren't the same as the original.

[@TevorTheThird]

Oh god no. You said you like DMC better then Devil May Cry. On the internet. God have mercy on you. They're coming now.

[@tiago9819]

DMC is not even close to have an better gameplay than Devil May Cry 3. Its more like an "Devil May Cry for dummies". And of course, it's hard to get over that douchebag murica Donte that the producer made based on himself. One of the worst and more anoying charaters ever. The original one was so cool...and they have to destroy everything with this brodude Donte.

[@SatoshiMatrix1]

I'm a nerd who likes consistency when it comes to game naming. One thing that bothers the shit out of me is when reboots and sequels use the same name as the original game, like what just happened with Doom and apparently what's going to happen with God of War. Subtitles motherfuckers. Use them. Also hate when game series switch from numbered entries to all of a sudden no more numbers. Call of Duty World at War? Shouldn't that be Call of Duty 5: World at War? Ugh.

[@tbb033]

At least there's, as far as I know, no game equivalent to the mess that is the Rambo naming system. The sequel to Rambo 3 is just Rambo? The original movie is First Blood, with no mention of the name Rambo in the title at all?

[@SatoshiMatrix1]

I present to you the mess that is the Seiken Densetsu series. Not counting spin offs, we've got: Final Fantasy Adventure Secret of Mana Seiken Densetsu 3 Dawn of Mana ...Not to mention the namings of just the first game alone: Final Fantsy Adventure, Sword of Mana and now Adventures of Mana. All of which are actually Seiken Densetsu 1. Of course, in the western world in the early 90s, RPGs were a niche genre, so naming RPGs "Final Fantasy" was a marketing ploy to associate one game with another in the genre, even if it was totally unrelated, as was the case with all of the SaGa games. Later when Seiken Densetsu 2 was localized as Secret of Mana, I guess that localization term stuck, for the most part anyway. Still just wish the series was called Seiken Densetsu in the west though. Would have solved a lot of confusion.

[@SatoshiMatrix1]

Yeah, Capcom's notorious for that.

[@joseagustincuesta]

The new God of War isn't a reboot though.

[@SycoticForeverNeverAF]

Satoshi Matrix The new god of war is a sequel not a reboot

[@Wolfdragon92584]

I thought DMC was a nice reboot. I've been playing the series since Devil May Cry 2 and although it doesn't have the charm or mythology of the originals, it still has the spirit.

[@patrickjennings8116]

How much MEGA POWER does a ps4 or xbox one have?

[@doug6394]

About 200,000 - 800,000 Mega power.

[@Mrvitosound]

none !

[@Nukle0n]

Mega Power is the amount of megabits a game is in terms of storage, has nothing to do with processing power. But a double layered Blu-ray disc would be 409600 Mega Power.

[@specialbeamcannon1]

all of them

[@cantona222]

+Nukleon Welcome to internet

[@maverickblah]

Prince of Persia: the sands of time is not even the first 3D Prince of Persia game!

[@ZBR_ProXP]

Exactly, remember Arabian Nights?

[@ekuzo4]

Prince of Persia 3D, around '97 perhaps?

[@TheJorus]

You should really check out DMC4. In terms of gameplay it's the best in the series. DmC overall removes way too many features and mechanics and has far lower difficulty than 1, 3 and 4, but I can understand if that doesn't matter if you haven't gone that deep into 3 and 4.

[@GameSack]

Higher difficulty doesn't necessarily mean better gameplay.

[@getterchrist1041]

They way a lot of fans look at it, it removed difficulty and gameplay features, such as Styles, Style Switching, Switch Canceling, and just a lot of the advanced techinques DMC had. DMC has a very large fanbase that gets incredibly techincal with the games, that DmC sadly doesnt have, since its a very simple game.

[@RemixerUltimate]

+Game Sack Valid point, but I would agree that DMC4 is better than DmC.

[@GameSack]

RemixerUltimate I'll definitely have to get DMC4.

[@RemixerUltimate]

Game Sack I would highly recommend the special edition

[@newageretrohip2522]

Dear gamesack i really like your videos, i can really tell the effort and passion you guys put in every single video hope you get millions of subs and tons of sucess in whatever you do in the future, that is all cheers!!

[@tetrisdave]

Thank You!

[@ohdfrosty9703]

Anyone else think these guys should have 10 min subs?

[@kdsburneraccount7476]

10 minute subs? Like, people subscribing for 10 minutes and then leaving? nah.

[@JazGalaxy]

I'm sure that's mean tot be 10 million subs and.. yes. I do.

[@riv4lm4n]

I don't wan't them to suffer the amount of cancerous comment it would imply

[@kdsburneraccount7476]

riv4lm4n A godawful comment section would be a small price to pay for these guys getting exposure, supported by KZbin, etc.

[@kristina80ification]

an awful comment section was the reason they took a break in the first place, making it even worse would probably just cause them to quit all together.

[@gustavomedrano6523]

in my opinion tomb raider has been rebooted twice. Legends was somehwat of a reboot with new controls/gameplay which then was rebootes in the new games.

[@DiaperLTD]

"Everybody knows about the Ninja Gaiden series. That´s unless you´ve never heard of it." It´s lines like these why I love Game Sack, they just crack me up.

[@ringorean]

it's all about Dante, not the gameplay. The old Dante was witty, sarcastic and funny. Not like the new one. It's like replacing uncharted's Nathan Drake with an emo douche.

[@JMDurden]

Yeah yeah yeah. Call me when Bob Cornhole reviews something. He's the only one I trust.

[@g1nobleteam]

Doom 2016, Killer Instinct 2013, and Wolfenstein The New Order, also maybe Wolfenstein 2009 would be interesting picks for a part 2.

[@CAPCOM784]

I love the original Killer Instinct :)

[@matthewjacobs2991]

Indeed. I'll be looking forward to their next visit to reboots

[@lady1kaka]

To me none of these is a real reboot.

[@Gamingpastime64]

Wolfenstein 2009 is highly underrated.

[@BobbyBaudoin]

Hell, I skipped it back in 2009 since I heard it was "too generic". I was highly surprised when I bought it for cheap and it ended up being one of my favorite shooter from the previous generation (along with Singularity)é

[@OtakuDeCarnitas109]

Strider 2014?

[@MixMasterLar]

only played that one a bit, but it seems awesome. I need to get around to buying it, but I got a fat stack of a back catalog.....and Star Ocean 5 comes out next week XD

[@Mrmightyturtle]

SO FUCKIN GOOD

[@inspirationalgamer5443]

Yes it counts. Very Metriodvania inspired which suits the franchise well honestly. Great game! Japanese version even has a physical copy on PS3 too.

[@OtakuDeCarnitas109]

I love how they remixed the music from the NES Strider game

[@xeno9000]

Strider and bionic commando rearmed

[@scrustle]

You Americans are wrong. She's not "Laura". Lara isn't the British version of Laura, it's a different name. We say Laura the same. But Lara in Tomb Raider is Lara. It's quite simple. I don't think Lara is even a British name. I live in the UK, and I've never known of anyone called Lara outside of Tomb Raider. I've met plenty or Lauras though. It's a common name.

[@timsnyder8431]

No that is not how americans pronounce her name

[@helpfulmole]

Definitely my favorite show on youtube. Keep it up guys you rule!

[@JayDee284]

As a fan Devil May Cry I fucking Hate DmC everything is awful(the story is a guy version of Twilight) am so happy it Bombed so there will never be a sequel & Ninja Theory (who real dicks 2 the fans btw) are 1 game away from going broke :D sorry Joe but that game brings the worst out of me every time I see it :P.

[@GameSack]

I think perhaps you're getting a little too emotional there. I don't think it bombed otherwise they wouldn't have bothered with a PS4 version. It's a well-playing game and I think people only really hate because of fanboy reasons. I can understand that (it's not true to devil May Cry, etc). But as a game it's good, especially for someone like me who has no real attachment to the originals since I never really played them (yet). Getting the HD versions, though.

[@JoeyJ0J0]

dmcs story is They Live look it up they share the same plot

[@dan_loup]

The 360/PS3 versions of the game had some other bad issues like running at 30 fps and having quite unresponsible controls due that and the game media and developers themselves acting like complete assholes, at a point the developer made this keynote thing where they compared the original dante to Brokeback Mountain. I would say the PS4 version is most likely tweaked the hell and back after the audience slapped the shit out of the developer.

[@JayDee284]

Dr_Kachu san Yeah Ninja Theory did a great job making sure it failed the same thing is going on with the female Ghostbuster reboot they never learn do they :P

[@JayDee284]

Fraudulent Frequency Yeah but it does have a very Twilight feel about it right down 2 the sexism :P

[@TheRaven078]

Good video! I liked Maximo on Playstation 2 a reboot/re-imagination of Ghouls n' Ghosts/Ghosts n' Goblins. It is a fun game with hat tips to the 2D games, such as music and losing your armor down to your boxers.

[@RichtersShadow]

Does Metroid Prime count as a reboot? It's completely different and the story doesn't seem to follow. If so, then those are great reboots. Splatterhouse is a great reboot of the series too. It's pretty buggy and not perfect, but it's just enjoyable ultra violence. Like the originals.

[@MrJechgo]

The Prime trilogy actually happens between the original Metroid and Super Metroid.

[@SylverstoneKhandr]

I'd say technically for Metroid Prime. There wasn't a Metroid game for a long time, so it basically brought back the series.

[@hmcglouf]

its more of a spin-off considering they were still releasing 2d metroid games for the gba at the time

[@moviemetalhead]

+Grd Mstr75 If the 360 version has them I don't see why they would be omitted for the PS3 version.

[@dudewhyfi]

few things going against that: 1. it really hadn't been that long since Super Metroid - that came out near the end of the SNES life cycle and Metroid just skipped the N64 2. Prime couldn't be a lone reboot no matter what since Fusion was co-released with it - and technically, Fusion is the real reboot, if you can even call it that, since it's 2d and even calls itself 'Metroid 4' as the sequel to Super Metroid 3. Prime is basically Super Metroid done in 3d - just compare the basic stories - it doesn't help that a whole section of Prime uses the same music as Super either

[@anthonyjohnhiggins]

WHY oh WHY would the US pronounce it laura, isnt lara referred to AS lara during the game???

[@thebudgetgamer]

I always love when my phone buzzes and it's a new Game Sack!

[@sega32xxx14]

Nice, good call on the into music going back to normal. Much better, thanks for the episode Joe, and thank you David, for being the down right fantastic person that you are

[@tetrisdave]

My pleasure. Thanks!

[@RedVisor1]

Hooray! The original music's back! The original guitar track sounds sooo much better than that newer replacement track.

[@MrSlashStudios]

+Game Sack Dave Thanks for recommending TR2013, I just bought it and it's amazing!

[@tetrisdave]

MrSlashStudios Awesome! I'm glad you like it.

[@sega32xxx14]

+Game Sack Dave Sheesh Dave... Even going out of your way to get back to him... You know how lucky your friends probably feel to have a guy like you in their life? Hopefully everyone expresses their appreciation to you for being such a genuinely great guy, and friend. Have a great week buddy! Don't work to hard, I can only imagine how much you bust your ass every day for FedEx. Excited for the next episode! And for the next episode of BeerSack for that matter, you rocked that Black&Tan!

[@deathtone1614]

You guys make every other week worth it. Thank you for cracking a smile on my face.

[@tetrisdave]

Sweet. Thanks for watching!

[@cidfacetious3722]

DMC is a sad story of when fans take it too far it's the best in the series and is hated because Dante has black hair SMH

[@szymps]

One think i don't understand. People hate DmC, because Dante is different. Game itself is Hack'n'slash just like original and overall it resambles original, but people still hate it. On the other hand there is Tomb Raider. Game is NOTHING like original, only main character kinda look alike, and people are fine with it... WTF?...

[@MrJechgo]

Opinions, that's it really... Dante in the reboot isn't as likeable as the original. However, the new Lara came as a vulnerable woman, which is what they were aiming for. The new Dante isn't how he became the original Dante, they just scraped his personality and gave him a new one... that didn't fit well with fans.

[@szymps]

+MrJechgo Does new Lara personality have anything to do with original? Besides i like new Dante as much as classic Dante. And if someone play games for 'personality of main character', they should double check the medium they are after.

[@MrJechgo]

Nehes No, Lara doesn't have the same personality of the headstrong and rather "pompous" classic Lara. The thing is that the devs went for an origin story where Lara started as a very fragile woman and THEN became strong in the end. We technically never saw classic Lara in her debuts as an explorer; she was already experienced. However, making an origin story makes total sense since, well, it is how Lara became an explorer, but the twist is that she didn't plan on that in the first place. Beside, maning Lara vulnerable doesn't come out as alientating as making the new Dante a total jerk, where his personality and look completely clash with the classic one. While it might not be a 100% legit point to ditch a game, players can toss a game aside if they just don't like who they are playing as. I haven't played Rise of the Tomb Raider, but from what I've heard, Lara whines a lot LESS in the sequel :P

[@szymps]

+MrJechgo Actualy we saw young Lara in TR The Last Revelation. You said that we were supouse to see fragile Lara changing and getting stronger, that is why she is so much different at the begginnig, but the same thing is with Dante. He is selfish jerk at the begginnig, but later he lern. I dont know, but for me difference betwean Laras are much bigger and alienating than Dantes. Anyway i dont play games for personalities but for gameplay. Thats the core of a game. Now compare Tomb Raider gameplay to reboot and DMC. Compare fighting mechanics, level construction, weapons, etc. You see my point? If i want story and character development i watch a movie, read book, comic etc.

[@MrJechgo]

Nehes Totally see your point. However, the lore itself can be considered by players as important as the gameplay itself.

[@MrJechgo]

Can we consider Prince of Persia and Ninja Gaiden as "reboots" as much as "sequels"? They just seem like new stories withe the same characters, just in 3d. The events of Sands of Time seem to happen after the original game, just like the evens of Gaiden 3D seem to happen after the original games. Yeah, yeah, the creator told us that it was a prequel, but... further proof is needed. A "reboot" that people mention a lot, but I cannot bring myself to "accept" is *Mortal Kombat [9]*. Here's my reasoning: MK9 starts with the end of Armageddon, the previous game, where Shao Kahn is about to kill Raiden and to actually WIN. Before dying, Raiden sends a vision to his past self, warning him. The past self is actually Raiden at the time Mortal Kombat 1 took place. The game retells the evnts of MK1, 2 and 3, but Raiden is trying to change the course of history, which happens a few times, such as having Sub-Zero being turned into a cyborg instead of Smoke. If you go back in time to change the past, I'm not calling this a reboot per se. For me, a reboot is scrapping everything about the lore and rebuilding it again, just like the web series Mortal Kombat Legacy did. In MK9 however, everything about the characters and lore prior to the game remain unchanged. Sure, things DO change due to Raiden's actions, but that's hardly worth calling a reboot. Technically, the events of MK4, Deadly Alliance, Deception and Armageddon have been erased from the lore, but those from the original trilogy. So yeah, here's the reason why MK9 isn't a reboot from my point of view, as I consider it more like an actual sequel.

[@Harperlarp]

Her name's Lara, not Laura. I don't know why so many Americans can't unserstand that Lara is a name. It's like they read the word Lara and think "Laura? it looks like Laura, only without the U. I'm gonna call her Laura." They're two different names.

[@mikieson]

Harperlarp STFU

[@EwaY83]

Oh man, the reboot Ninja Gaiden was fun, but I love the originals on NES. So much memories as a kid renting those games.

[@sperrin]

'Laura, yes that is how us Americans pronounce her name, Laura.' No, that is how you pronounce a completely different name. I never understood why so many people (not just Americans) don't seem to grasp they are two different names. Lara, Laura. Different names. May as well call her John.

[@Areala21]

Laughed SO hard at the Metal Jesus gag. I love the work you guys do, and the enthusiasm with which you cover games that, like the Altered Beast reboot, really don't seem worth getting that excited about. But you love telling us about them anyway, and that's what keeps me coming back every other week. :)

[@thenostalgiafactor5023]

Dave, have you played Rayman Legends yet? You mentioned wanting another Rayman game...that one is AWESOME on the Xbox One...

[@tetrisdave]

I have played it and it's great. I'm always hoping for a new Rayman.

[@francisbrodie9140]

+Game Sack Dave will you's do another 2d 32bit games? Like most folk back then all I bought was 3D games but after playing Castlevania sotn and blood omen I know I've missed out on some great games

[@Vexonia_Music]

Thank god you didn't look at the Thief reboot.

[@espro436]

Bayonetta was also released on PS3. Not only X360.

[@MekanikKommandoh88]

I pity the people who played it on PS3 though. Vastly inferior to the 360 version for some reason. That always baffled me.

[@espro436]

MekanikKommandoh88 yeah, i played it on X360 too.

[@Consolethinks]

Oh god, now that's a terrible port... long loading times after every restart or death (higher rankings require "some" restarts), the FPS fluctuates like a yo-yo going up and down and tearing everywhere. That single 1.01 update did not fix anything, just added an HDD install option which only improved the loading times by a marginal amount. PlatinumGames has admitted that they made a mistake when they let Sega handle the PS3 port (which was not even planned until the very end of development).

[@TheYouTubeGame]

And the Wii U through Bayonetta 2.

[@SephyInABox]

True, but everyone wants to ignore its existence, even Platinum Games.

[@RetroPowerUp]

Doom (2016) has been one of my favorite recent reboots. They did an amazing job with that game.

[@Foxysen]

Tomb Raider reboot, talking about bow: "And it's quiet" - shoots explosive arrow at rabbit. Best!

[@tetrisdave]

LoL. It's mainly quiet except when you put an explosive tip on it.

[@frankschneider6156]

Lara not only look like Rambo, she also behaves like that.

[@KamikazeXero]

I'm definitely going to have to try all of those! I own most of them but never played them (sometimes I get games at pawn shops for $1-3 a piece, so I save them for a rainy day) One of my favorite reboots is Sid Meier's Pirates when it was released in the mid 2000's for PC/Xbox/Wii. It refined a lot of the gameplay aspects as well as the visuals. I definitely recommend checking it out!

[@aaroncalloway2898]

DMC doesn't compare to devil may cry 1 and 3, especially for the time they came out. That is why they became classics. Plus old dante is best dante lol and I liked Nero....... but dont tell anybody

[@SkeletorTclaws]

Dmc reboot character looked exactly like that tameem guy, the programer from ninja theory. it ruined the game for me.

I wish Game Sack would discover the existence of PC gaming. It would make a really good show almost perfect.

[@moviemetalhead]

They've reviewed the X68000 and a coupla PC titles, so don't think they're completely ignorant of PC gaming.

[@moviemetalhead]

*I don't think they're....

***** well, they never ever mention PC versions of the titles they feature. Even more, praising the graphics of some of the reboots and showing the inferior console versions doesn't make much sense (as in Tomb Raider and Devil May Cry). And buying an Xbox One to play Rise of the Tomb Raider because it's exclusive? Guess what? It's not, there is a PC version. By the way, Prince of Persia Sands of Time happens to be a free download right now from Ubisoft, on PC. Worth mentioning...

[@moviemetalhead]

+Federico Guzmán Cool. But we both know they're console guys. I am too, I never was too into PC gaming. Wolfenstein, Prince of Persia, Doom that's about all I got into back in the late 80s early 90s.

[@moviemetalhead]

+Federico Guzmán and Carmageddon 2.

[@marcosdheleno]

my problem with the dmc remake, is that, while alot looks(and feels) better than 1,3 and 4, the combat was lacking. for example in those games, each weapon felt very unique, and playing with them and discovering how to combo was much more pleasant, here, the weapons felt more like ikaruga, expecially with the color codded enemies. and while the story is better, the characters felt less fun(for me).

[@doug6394]

"Oobisoft" Dave?

[@GameSack]

What do you say?

[@doug6394]

+Game Sack Youbee, but I may be dumb and wrong.

[@GameSack]

Douglas Estep Listen again to the entire Rayman segment. We made sure to say it both ways so everyone would get pissed off. People love it.

[@moviemetalhead]

+Douglas Estep Hey, Joe gave us back the old intro music. Power to the people. heh

[@GameSack]

***** Already did.

[@knightsabre2k]

Surprised by some of the glaring omissions from this video, though I understand that you can't cover it all. Still, I did wonder where Shinobi was in this episode. I was sure it would be mentioned. There's also the Shadow of the Beast reboot which was released recently. As for devil may cry, I really didn't like the reboot but it's something I think fans of the series as a whole would notice. For me DMC was a throwback to devil may cry 2. It doesn't take much to get high grades in those games cos you just need to hit the enemies lots and you can literally button mash your way to high combos. The other games in the series take more things into account and you have to actually dodge attacks too. They just give you a sense of satisfaction in the combat which DMC does not.

[@mrhoeivo]

1. You didn't mention that Prince of Persia was actually rebooted again in 2008. 2. It's a bit misleading to say that Devil May Cry "inspired" Bayonetta, when they were both directed by the same person: Hideki Kamiya. 3. Bayonetta was also released on the PS3 and (later) the Wii U. 4. American pronunciation of the name Lara (and even Laura) varies by region. 5. You mean to say "polygonal", not "polygon".

[@CollectorFanatic101]

No one speaks of that garbage

[@seraphic22]

I speak of it. Quite enjoyed that version. The platforming became more like a rhythm action game which feels great to nail during some of the longer segments. Wish they would release more like it.

[@Maztuhmind]

+sera .phic pop 08 was pretty fun except for the combat. would have loved to see a sequel for it.

[@n0isyturtle]

You must be a ton of fun at parties...

[@matthewjacobs2991]

There was a lot to love about PoP'08. The world, atmosphere, and characterizations were enjoyable to me. Combat was annoying but had some depth. I think what got me, was the lack of consequence. The idea that I couldn't die and the princess would always rescue me was cute, but made it feel like I was perpetual easy mode :( As for everything else in the original post, seems a bit nit-picky. GameSack are known for not doing a lot of research, and I wouldn't expect them to. They're informative and entertaining, but they're not doing a documentary on their subjects

[@mrterrychaos]

The hedgewolf levels in Sonic Unleashed reminded me of Altered Beast for PS2.

[@mag1011]

DMC is watered down absolute trash compared to the originals. I expected better from you Game Sack. Ninja Theory were assholes to original fans all through development, the new Dante is a twat bait douche canoe (the mop scene is openly insulting to the old guard), the story is pretentious "lolsodeep" tripe that shits all over the classic memorable characters, the music is a trendy wub fest, the gameplay is watered down and completely lacking in depth, the legendary difficulty that the series is known for is nowhere to be found, Gods Must Die doesn't hold a candle to the true Devil May Cry on its MEDIUM settings. They had to release a definitive edition to even come anywhere to close to the level of depth offered by DMC 3 and 4. Did I mention that the original release didn't even have a lock on? You know, a very basic mechanic in most all 3D games that was essential for certain inputs in the true Devil May Cry. Truly disgusting.

[@dragoon1090]

Its just a video game. Calm the fuck down.

[@mag1011]

Kudos, no one's ever noticed before.

[@grimnirwotansvolk7910]

mag1011 Yes, of all the disgusting things in the world, DmC is the one that's TRULY disgusting.

[@nohomers100]

I dont HATE the DMC reboot but it is nowhere near as good as the originals(except for 2 of course). It also doesnt help that the new dante is just an unlikeable douchebag. Original Dante was cocky and witty and just an all around badass It is also much much easier and the color coded enemies were a mistake

[@Horzzo]

This episode has more "tude" than GreenDog. Thanks guys!

[@muhanc.a.9299]

Metal Jesus supports this episode... I think.

[@ShaunRF]

So if you guys do another episode on this topic, would it be a reboot or a sequel?

[@silentfox139]

People complain of dmc Dante reboot look. My opinion. I don’t care about his look, the gameplay is what matters

[@oldschoolm8]

Lara is a real name in Britain! 'Lah-Ra' Croft, not Laura Croft! C'mon, you have to give one of our finest exports the credit they deserve!

[@robsmors]

Anyone know the song that`s playing in the bakground and during the credits at 24:58? Tnx in advance guys! =D

[@ToprakSezginFromTurkey]

The humor was spot-on in this episode. Would love to see you guys cover this subject again.

[@KWKBOX]

I want an Earnest Evans reboot! Let's go Wolf Team!

[@brentthompson2265]

Joe, don't you think your joke about Dante in the new Devil May Cry is offensive to college douches everywhere?

[@n0isyturtle]

Strider, Splatterhouse, and Metroid Prime were all solid reboots. I haven't played the new DOOM but people seem to really like it.

[@1BergerVongSchlauigkeitHer]

Speaking of Prince of Persia: you can get The Sands of Time for free right now: club.ubi.com/#!/en-US/ubi30

[@BassDude789]

Hah, dat Metal Jesus shot was great

[@boh0555]

You need to check out Rayman Legends, its a great game and it even has most of the levels from Rayman Origins included on the same disc.

[@UnclePhil73]

Rygar and Golden Axe for the next one (yes, I know the reboots both sucked, but gotta balance out the load)

[@SomePkmnlovingdude]

6:06 - 6:15 - Homage?! More like insult!

[@Zeldaschampion]

10:56 That mop wig makes a return! LOL

[@Agent0range9]

You mention how devil may cry started as resident evil 4 but did you know assassin's creed started as a new prince of persia

[@lazydesmond8240]

My favorite reboot has to be Stryder. A superb game all around, and very fun, if short.

[@ABlob]

I'd recommend Rayman Legends over Origins since you can play levels from Origins there as well.

[@jam237]

awesome devil may cry 4 is my favorite

[@BloodlessWolf]

Couple more reboots for you, Splatterhouse on Xbox360, Xcom Enemy Unknown, Donkey Kong Country Returns, and Shinobi and Rygar on PS2.

[@ZBR_ProXP]

Great mentions!

[@MrThunderwing]

Joe and Dave, have you seen the footage of the Wonderboy 3: The Dragon's Trap remake that's going on? It looks amazeballs.

[@JimPanzeeEsq]

If that's how you pronounce Lara, how do you pronounce Laura?

[@aradwan1011]

Great episode would love to see a an episode on modern games with great sprite work

[@Deep_wolf]

Dude from Altered Beast Remake looks like Bryan from Tekken, lol. He even got the same moves.

[@flosmi]

did you try the splatterhouse game for ps3/360?

[@danhedgehog]

I think golden axe could use a second reboot, 1 bad game shouldn't be the end of a great franchise

[@88DreadGT]

Wise fwom your gwave....

[@chrisr529]

Seriously what were they thinking with broski Dante

[@RaizerZ]

Nice. Nothing like a new episode of gamesack to end the day.

[@spencerstevens2175]

The farther into the future we go, the more of these episodes we need

[@DonMoney80]

XCOM: Enemy Unknown was one of the best reboots in recent memory

[@ryanpowell486]

dmc reboot was terrible....nough said.

[@trevorbozeman]

Loved the episode guys! Keep up the great work!'

[@SuperKokuJin916]

Awesome episode as always, guys! Thanks for covering Altered Beast. I always wanted to see the PS2 remake (glad to know I wasn't missing much). Perhaps Phantasy Star, Strider and Castle of Illusion for the next episode?

[@NefariousWes]

Oh man you guys, freakin' hilarious episode!! Joe's cat AND Metal Jesus made appearances! Good stuff! Anyway, great group of games you set up here. I need to play that DMC--it looks sweet! I didn't really care for 'Devil' when it first came out, and then bought the HD Remasters during a flash sale and fell in love with them. And the Xbox/PS Ninja Gaiden games are just too damn hard. NES all day.

[@ShogunGin0]

If I may make a recommendation to Dave, the Gamecube version of Sands of Time pales in comparison to the Xbox version. I say this having grown up with the GC version, beating it multiple times. The texture quality is quite inferior, and the dialog audio was compressed and isn't as clear as on the Xbox. The Xbox version also has a PC perfect unlockable port of Prince of Persia 2: Shadow and Flame, unavailable on any other version. The PS2 version is still probably the worst, since it drops a lot of frames, and has similar audio compression to the GC version. It has better sharpness than the GC version, but desaturated colors. Though, I must say, your upscaled GC footage does look pretty nice, all things considered.

[@daytimesky]

Never played the original Tomb Raider, but loved Rise Of (the 2015 one). I thought TR2013 was okay, but in hindsight, it was actually a pretty good game. I was just disappointed by high expectations since the development team kept talking about features that ended up not in the game, like being required to hunt for food, the world being open and nonlinear, etc. So when the actual game came out minus those features, I was very disappointed.

[@2112dorf]

I enjoyed Spy Hunter 1 and 2, and Spy Hunter: Nowhere to Run on the Xbox. In NTR your character (The Rock) explores a level that had a Spy Hunter machine. If you put a quarter in it, it unlocks an "enhanced" version of the arcade original....

[@HikikomoriMedia]

Didn't Prince of Persia have 3 reboots? There was the Sands of Time, The Jake Gyllenhal Movie Reboot, and the 2007 Prince of Persia for PS3/360? I feel like that series had a hard time nailing down an identity. POP: Sands of Time's sequel went in a grim dark, Godsmack soundtrack - trying to capitalize on God of War.

[@Maztuhmind]

the game that was released around the time of the movie is in the same canon as sands of time.

[@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial]

Another great vid boys. The Prince of Persia reboot blew me away back in 03, still one of my favorite games. Also, DMC4 is alright...it's fine for a DMC game but the focus on Nero instead of Dante took away from it in my opinion

[@n-gamearts1731]

I'm a little shocked you would collect games for the Xbox one... seeing how you have to download that DRM patch thing. So makes it pointless to collect for it. I'm hoping the new Xbox One S or that upgraded one will have the DRM patch already on the console. but as it stands it's best to never buy physical games for it and go with nothing but digital.

[@AHeroAlmost]

I absolutely loved DMC...Dante wasn't great but the boss battles and fighting was just spot on in my opinion... people wouldn't really give it a fair chance..

[@ZBR_ProXP]

SNES Prince of Persia was INCREDIBLE compared to the running on walls stuff. I even liked the crappy 3D Dreamcast one more than those.