Recording Drums with 2 Mics and a Tascam Portastudio 424mkiii

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@G_handle 10 ай бұрын

So question: On the 424, could you have run Mics into 1&2 Line into 3&4 the same way, Direct Outs 1-4 into the interface the same way, but rather than recording the tape and Then playing the tape Back into the DAW, record IN the DAW Simultaneously off of the Repro Head (assuming the 424 is a 3-head). So the 424 Record Head would lay it to tape, the 424 Repro Head would pick it back up at a whatever the gap+speed difference is, but it would be considerably more consistent. As opposed to having the motors drive the tape twice. In addition to saving you half the time to go through the process, I imagine that Synchronizing with existing tracks in the DAW would be nearly perfect, and essentially the same as a Latency Compensation operation. You should be able to Hardware Insert a click through this chain and figure out a Sample Accurate delay comp, just like other Hardware round-trips but with the head gap being significantly yet consistently more. In my mind, even the tape speed fluctuations would be minimal because they'd only be in that gap distance, and once back digital may be a sample or two of variance. Which might Add to the Analog Tape feel anyways. Thoughts?

@RPMusicStudios 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for your question. There is only 2 heads on the Tascam. I'm not sure if any 4 track cassette machine has a repro head. As far lining up tracks via delay compensation calculations, The problem is the longer the song the more variance you will have. Before shooting this video I tried to dump the drums back in and line them up to the original track and after 45 sec to a minute the drums start to fall behind the click. Usually if I want the sound of the tape I send the whole mix in. I'm just experimenting with different ways to use the machine.

@G_handle 10 ай бұрын

@RPMusicStudios Copy that. Two thoughts: I have a Tascam 122 (3-Head) and a Tascam 112 (Erase and "Sync" Heads). Both (as well as my Reel to Reels, 80-8 & BR-20T) allow me to choose what to "Monitor" on the Outputs. They all allow me to Monitor AKA send to the Outputs, the direct "Input" and some variation of what comes Off of the tape, either Sync or Repro. If you set that to, what's probably called Sync, what I don't know is if that's recorded first by the head and then played back by the same head. Or if maybe it will only playback tracks that are not in Record mode, so only for Overdubs, in which case the Outputs would probably be the Input signal on the Recording tracks. Hopefully that makes sense. The second thought is that: If the Sync head actually Does playback what it just recorded, That's the sound of tape that you were trying to capture. However, doing it in Realtime as opposed to a Second Playback pass would mostly negate any tape speed timing-Sync issues possibly all together, because the DAW is Recording what goes onto and immediately off of tape, in its own time-line. The DAW is just Recording Analog audio in real-time, not in tape playback time (for lack of a better term). The audio is really just passing "through" the magnetic tape process, like say the magnetic Flux of a transformer. The audio on one side of the windings being de-coupled from the other side of windings. In this case that Record head orients the magnetic particles onto the tape and Repro/Sync head picks up that patern and turns it back into audio, to then be AD'd into the DAW. (I'm spelling all this out for myself as much as you, or anyone else who cones across it.) Again the dual benefits here are that A) The job is done faster, but B) the tape machine motors run Once, and whatever speed they run, both Record and Playback are at exactly the same speed and gap, whatever it is. As I think about it, even if it were wobbling like crazy, the audio fidelity may fluctuate (like moving between 15 & 30 ips for example) but the Sync should be locked, based upon a fixed gap and the exact same tape performance. This is All theory in my minds understanding, I don't know exactly. And if the 424 doesn't playback the recorded audio in the same pass it was recorded, then this is all mute. But my 4 Tascam Tape Machines do allow for it so there's a good chance yours does too. Either way, thanks for what you do Brotha, and keep em coming!

@G_handle 10 ай бұрын

@RPMusicStudios Hey Brotha, I also remember and then found this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpTMZayjmMdqfNUfeature=shared It's Chris Mara basically demonstrating what I was fumbling to say. You might be interested.