Crimewatch UK February 1990

[@paulnwo4256]

I get up for work each morning at 4.30am and watch one episode of Crimewatch each day. Redcard is a legend!

[@reevespeterson]

For every successful conviction Nick gets one year younger.

[@stevepest3184]

This show got point across like all the social media now

[@Survivor1982]

I watched crimewatch for 27 years. The programme was incredible solved many many cases. BBC have removed the legacy the programme had. Thank you for all your uploads so appreciated 🤗👏🏻

[@daviddrysdale2746]

Probably setting myself up here, but i love how everyone is so nice to each other in the comments section!

[@swiftlydoesit8480]

David Drysdale Yes the comments on this channel are the best I’ve ever come across on YT. I really hope it stays this way though lol

[@spike197047]

Yes, nice to see eh. Long may it continue.

[@helencompton3320]

David Drysdale We are all nice and have a common interest. 🙂

[@deanmobley1112]

That’s because if anyone starts being unkind or rude they end up having nightmares and don’t sleep well 😉

[@emmapostolache]

Very nice gang

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

The Karen Price case must be a reason why Crimewatch should never have been cancelled. They may not have found her killer otherwise. Stupid to stop such a valuable show.

[@zeddeka]

The saddest thing is that it was cancelled because people stopped watching it.

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

@@zeddeka I don't believe nobody watched it. I loved it and knew other people who watched it. Anyway, it wasn't about audience figures! The whole idea was to catch criminals. It was a public service which we all needed. There is worse rubbish the BBC puts out they could get rid of .....

[@michaelbowling4685]

blame the bbc

[@croqueGrec09]

Quite agree with what you say; fortunately, German TV Station ZDF which runs the German version Aktenzeichen XY has a different opinion, so that the programme is still on the air (last episode was a week ago, on May 12th, '21; next will be, in case some international viewers are interested, on June 9th). Elsewhere, I read among the comments that, to point out the essence, social media had superseded the need of Crimewatch. I do not agree at all with that; first, the possibility of reconstructing cases like here is more difficult when there is no official corporation (like a public TV station) behind, then (at least in my social environment) the use of social media is declining (at least that's the case with Facebook). Then, with all the mass of information you get on social media, it seems difficult for me to concentrate on criminal cases the extent it would deserve.

[@misplacedkiwi9498]

BBC cancel all the good stuff. First it was Byker Grove and now this

[@ChristinesGameOfLife]

I found out about CW from the True Crime Enthusiast podcast, and now I listen to an episode every night to lull me to sleep. Nothing so soothing as a British accent discussing true crime!

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

You go to sleep with all these murderers and rapists on the loose?! Most haven't been caught 35 year later.

[@neilt4723]

Same here

[@colleenmeisenholder8261]

Me to

[@b1ueocean]

Never enjoyed Aladdin’s Cave 30 years ago and still don’t enjoy it now... Difference now is I can skip it 😂

[@valeriemacphail9180]

Well. It's nice to know what the wealthy spend their money on, or what people find valuable, even if it is not to our taste.

[@stevepest3184]

I am exactly the same that was shite

[@carlhamilton8531]

I agree. It was always the worst part of a great programme

[@jamesobrien1440]

The amount of loo visits & kettles that were boiled up and down the country when this segment reared its ugly head

[@lw3646]

That was the moment people went out to the kitchen to make a cup of tea.

[@zeddeka]

The Karen Price story is the story of so many girls and boys over the years. Unhappy family life, go into care, have no emotional roots, drift into prostitution and end up in a terrible situation.

[@lorrainehaig3360]

Thank you Redcard, just love these episodes

[@nathaniliescu4597]

5 mins - the blind old woman was 23 years old when the Titanic sank!!

[@traceyclarke5475]

Nathan Iliescu that's crazy. I'm big titanic fan to!

[@mrkipling2201]

Crazy to think about!!

[@nathaniliescutotherescue6047]

Hello me!!

[@zeddeka]

For those interested in the Karen Price case, the BBC recently did an episode about the case as part of their "Dark Land" series which looks at murders in Wales. Other episodes look at other famous cases such as that of Suzanne Greenhill (also a Crimewatch case). All episodes are currently available to watch on BBC iplayer.

[@nicksimpson4058]

Those bogus callers are scumbags. Cowardice at its highest to target the vulnerable. Should get minimum 20 years

[@margaretbanks8969]

Hear hear

[@margaretbanks8969]

We should stop regarding seriousness of robberies by monetary. These robberies may not be brinks Matt but the distress in my eyes is more serious. That pendant the elderly lady's mum put round her neck on her wedding day the crown jewels couldn't replace that in her eyes.

[@irishcountryman4866]

Nick Ross has the distinctive voice of Crimewatch. The reconstructions were way better back then too.

[@zeddeka]

Very different world now - these episodes were almost 40 years ago and the world and technology has changed a lot. Crime is very different - so much of it is caught on CCTV so there's no real need to do reconstructions like they used to. So many murderers are caught within a day or two now, whereas back then it would take months or years, if they ever did catch them. The police basically had to grope in the dark back then and hope someone saw something otherwise they had very little to go on.

[@irishcountryman4866]

@@zeddeka Very well put. The detectives really had their work cut out for themselves back then. Times have changed so much since then

[@lw3646]

​@th8257 true, everyone has a phone on them now to take pictures if needed or call for help, for the criminal it can be a liability, messages can give them away or show they were in a particular town on a particular day. Doorbell and private cctv is very useful to police. But times aren't as rosy as they should be. Only 1 in 20 crimes results in a person being charged, rape remains under-reported and few end up getting to court, police numbers were cut by 20,000 in 2010, many are at breaking point, stress and burnout are massive issues now, I read the Met police now have only 11 forensic crash investigators, for a city of nearly 9 million. Just look at the mess Nottingham Police made recently. Burglary rarely leads to an arrest, the police didn't even bother showing up often and most cases are closed within a day.

[@mrkipling2201]

I know a lot of you skip Aladdin’s cave but as an ephemera dealer and former antiques dealer I find the stuff that was recovered fascinating.

[@SKisatourist2010]

Evening all. Remember this episode for the bogus BT engineers and Karen Price. I even videoed this episode and watched it several times in the months afterwards. I was 12.

[@MrModelworx]

I also remember this one very well, I was 12 as well !

[@jamesobrien1440]

I used to do this religiously as a kid as well and watch it during the day on my school holidays on vcr. Even in daylight it used to scare me. I was 9 when this aired. I must have watched it live as I recall the Karen price recon

[@deanmobley1112]

You must have heard my kettle going! Evening all

[@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt]

Dean Mobley hi Xx

[@deanmobley1112]

Hi Kate x

[@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt]

Dean Mobley hope you’re well I enjoy CW it’s sad that it doesn’t exist anymore Xx

[@deanmobley1112]

@@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt I really wish they would bring this back, Hope you’re well xx

[@LANCSKID]

Two sugars, please, No biscuits.

[@Ariadne76-k3d]

It seems like almost every car on the road must have been a red Cortina or Sierra in those days!

[@neilbarratt4661]

A great trip back in time, well done!

[@Macho_Fantastico]

Karen Price's murder is tragic, poor girl. Glad her murderer was caught. Should never be released.

[@frostycola42]

David hatcher is a legend

[@morrisverschreagen9761]

🐐he is still around too!

[@LANCSKID]

I think you mean a leg end. Makes a balls of his lines every time.

[@swiftlydoesit8480]

Happy Saturday all! 😁

[@chiefinspectorduvall6073]

Evening all! What's going on ear then!

[@vanillasnow4084]

Them “BT” men are lowlife why would they get off on robbing two old ladies even if it was like a comedy sketch the daughter sounded like Sandi Toksvig and the mother was like one of the two fat ladies but i still felt bad for them though, horrible 😒

[@Hi-kq1vi]

This is why it is nearly always best to use actual actors-these two made it seem like comedy hour with their overacting. I did have to laugh at them hiding jewelry in Semolina & having to clean it every time they wanted it. Sadly old people are generally easy marks & despite all the warnings still live in a world where they trust everybody like it is 1940,

[@Hi-kq1vi]

barely a day goes by without a newspaper report or tv report showing them getting ripped off by a fake call or visitor. I watched a show a while back where one of them kept falling for postal scams telling her she had won a prize but had to send money-even her own family could not make her believe it was a con, after she died hr kids went in & had to clear the endless piles of it she had kept & stuff was still arriving because she was on the sucker lists. Another one on the show had an old couple who had given pretty much everything to a boiler room scam, even with the police there while filming another outfit who had been given their details called & although the cops had convinced them they had been scammed by the first lot, they still believed the new lot were genuine despite the police telling them it wasn't-they lost their home, one of them died not long after & the other one wound up in a cheap nursing home with the little they had left.

[@vanillasnow4084]

Hi Totally agree i couldn’t help but laugh at the mum’s acting and how the daughter was running around but i did feel bad .. the other lady they used was very cartoon like too .... so true scumbags will use old people more as they are obviously weaker and some of them their minds would of gone 🙄 it’s sad they feel they can trust everyone

[@BlytheWorld1972]

sad to think that all 3 of the woman are now dead .. the woman on her own looked classy strange her name was never mentioned .

[@rubyred7018]

Was anyone convicted of this crime ??

[@barnet1548]

Thx for posting these.

[@ajs41]

Amazing work by the reconstructionists in the last case, to get such a good likeness.

[@joshuaferguson698]

Justice for Madge 1990

[@emmapostolache]

Catching up on recent uploads great as always Thank you xxx

[@johncook496]

Evening all! I’ll be watching in bed later. Thanks for the upload Redcard!

[@francescaruby1150]

These programs are so addictive

[@chiefinspectorduvall6073]

Guilty your honour! As charged!

[@davechurchill8711]

Guilty to haven't left this playlist since I started it.

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

'Programme'!

[@francescaruby1150]

@@treasurehunteruk9718 I agree but but not my spell checker .

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

@@francescaruby1150 Spell checkers aren't reliable.

[@Lushgirl81]

Poor Karen. Not much of a life for her.

[@helencompton3320]

Hello everyone and a happy Saturday to you all. 🕵🏻‍♀️

[@deanmobley1112]

Helen Compton happy Saturday Helen 🙋🏻‍♂️

[@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt]

Evening thank you for the uploads Xxxxx

[@RuffRyder2011]

Helen Compton hello beautiful

[@fintytin5771]

Thanks once again RC74 !!

[@CountofMonteFi3t0]

Lol I never knew Chiquitos existed that far back

[@BlytheWorld1972]

i cup of tea and then hobnobbing it away with the family silver

[@zahria]

Arguing with a "short , fat , bold man" - who is not yet been found.. 😃 Who,will react to that ?

[@STEJTHEGREATEST]

The story of Karen Price was so fascinating, if tragic. ;*(

[@BlytheWorld1972]

The two classy woman from the better part of london were pure class especially the second lady .. my god you dont see much class like that now i wonder if the first lady is still living her mother was 100 at the time in 1990 she was 70 so she may well be .. lets hope so.

[@markdavidson9100]

I wonder if the men were ever caught

[@BlytheWorld1972]

@@markdavidson9100 did try and read up about this but found nothing .

[@BlytheWorld1972]

@Taipan Tails most trashy people like yourself cant :)

[@matthewlovelock6928]

The older woman was clearly the lover of the woman not her mother

[@BlytheWorld1972]

@@matthewlovelock6928 get off it

[@spike197047]

If I remember correctly, redcard74 said a couple of weeks back does not have available March episode featuring the murder of Keith Burgess, though it that particular case is available on KZbin.

[@mariafelices8000]

Over the years watching I have spotted 3 members of my family in different crimes 👿

[@tharealmikezee3165]

Ricky was...undoubtedly up to some unsavory activities. Obviously must've owed money to the wrong ppl

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

Killing him would not get the money back!

[@joshuaedwards4536]

Apparently he was a well known drug dealer, and his antique shop was just a front for all the dealings he was doing

[@639704234200009]

Some taxi drivers that were colleagues whom were in the game at the time said he was a very arrogant person. Some people said that people in the local motor trade were in on it. Some said big property owners. Apparently his father was in jail at the time for armed robbery and that the loot his mother had was from the hold ups. She used to get a write up reminder every year in the Southern Daily Echo with a reward in the region of 20k pounds. But nothing was ever said.

[@mrkipling2201]

Mrs Chester knew that there was something dodgy going on. Unfortunately her husband probably didn’t want to get involved. Even though I reckon he thought it was gunshots as well. Was Ricky Haywood’s killers ever caught??

[@markdavidson9100]

Still unsolved

[@joshuaedwards4536]

He was a well known drug dealer, apparently, and his shop was just a front for all the dodgy dealings he was doing, his killers will never be caught, as is always the case with most professional hits

[@nikiwalkey8114]

I wonder if Mr Chester was really as rude and arrogant as he came across on the reconstruction?

[@BlytheWorld1972]

A fantastic episode ...

[@swiftlydoesit8480]

BlytheWorld1972 I agree, chilling reconstructions and details and a good set of scary e-fits. 😅

[@Nicjhis]

Just purchased the home security guide

[@PC-lu3zf]

Now Madge would be 130 RIP to her.

[@BlytheWorld1972]

wonder if her daughter is still alive ?

[@nathaniliescutotherescue6047]

@@BlytheWorld1972 Do you keep rewatching these or something?!

[@matthewlovelock6928]

​@@BlytheWorld1972wasn't she her lover

[@BlytheWorld1972]

@@matthewlovelock6928 grow up.

[@BlytheWorld1972]

the first story ,, aw

[@Macho_Fantastico]

35:44 Dr David Whittaker was involved in identifying victims of Fred and Rose West, including their own daughter if I remember.

[@Prieze868]

I think in the Shock of these horrible crimes it's an eye opener to be to keep safety in mind when out or even at home and others might like to solve the crime

[@soulbrother61]

Evening all.. late on tonite , thought i'd keep it for watching on my night shift

[@chiefinspectorduvall6073]

Evening brother!

[@deanmobley1112]

I miss this little community!

[@cgarby]

Love Nick Ross’ sign-off. Not something you’d get on a program in the states.

[@LANCSKID]

Crass and meaningless.

[@michaellowery1559]

Sue, looked lovely again in this episode.

[@chiefinspectorduvall6073]

Smoking

[@LANCSKID]

Hot Cookie. I am glad the lovely hair is down and revealed.

[@ncfcnathan]

Cheers again!

[@ianbousfield5007]

I remember all the publicity as a lad of the clay head and it giving me nightmares

[@hwoodward884]

I'm glad it wasn't just me who found the clay head eerie, as much as I felt sorry for the victim.

[@zahria]

You's where not supposed to have nightmares, you know that ? : )

[@michelleg89_12]

Same here it made me nauseous

[@stfitness]

Here we go!

[@nicolar6461]

We’re like our own little community 😊

[@b1ueocean]

u=qtπ 😊

[@nicolar6461]

b1ueocean what kinda crazy talk is that - Russian? 🇷🇺

[@b1ueocean]

lol not Russian, math... you’ll figure it out🕵🏻‍♀️

[@notonyournelly5475]

@@nicolar6461 he's calling you a cutie pie

[@nicolar6461]

notonyour nelly haha ahhh I see....that’s nice thank you 😊

[@kevintraynor4508]

Love looking at the antiques on this program. Some beutifull items

[@LANCSKID]

Shame that it’s presented by Eric ‘know it all’ Knowles.

[@secretchocaddictabused9351]

How sad about that young girl from Cardiff , why did her family not come forward ,

[@leedummett4412]

thanks for upload.

[@swiftlydoesit8480]

Nice and early tonight! ⏰

[@paulmainwaring6674]

I'm loving these videos. Does anyone know why they stopped doing crimewatch a couple of years ago?

[@SKisatourist2010]

Paul Mainwaring they said viewing viewing figures were not high enough to justify scaring the public. However, it’s still apparent it was generating results for the police as recently as 2013. www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/shortcuts/2017/oct/17/axed-who-killed-crimewatch-and-why?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[@dissonantdreams]

Stuart Kelly it’s a shame they ended it. A friend of mine who is an actress played a murder victim in a CW reconstruction in 2011, and thankfully the appeal led to the murderer being caught and convicted.

[@ajs41]

Although the show helped to catch a lot of criminals, I don't think there's any doubt that it did increase the fear of crime at the same time with the creepy reconstructions and ghastly e-fits. It certainly scared me when I first started watching in about 1988 when I was 9 years old.

[@ianbousfield5007]

Probably axed because it wasn't about cooking,dancing or singing !

[@paulmainwaring6674]

@@ajs41 I remember being 12 and the Joan Harrison murder aftermath being broadcast in about 2011. It stopped me sleeping. But it did help solve a lot and in principle it is not aimed at children

[@BlytheWorld1972]

Cupa and some sweets on the go thank you .

[@helencompton3320]

BlytheWorld1972 Chuck us a sweet please. 🙂 🍬

[@BlytheWorld1972]

Sure :)

[@ianbousfield5007]

Have you got some cola cubes?A popular retro favourite

[@sirandrelefaedelinoge]

@@ianbousfield5007 Or Pear Drops...

[@stanmarshthedarsh]

Anne and Madge 🥰

[@katemissfilanpurrmcdevitt]

Hello everyone Xx

[@Prieze868]

Front doors need little windows so you don't have to open the door

[@ftorres93]

Poor madge.

[@hihowareyouthen]

25:59 How rude! Dump him, girl

[@matthewlovelock6928]

The semolina jewels robbery they were clearly lovers not mother and daughter

[@ajs41]

I know I shouldn't but I can't help laughing at the false names they choose like Andrew Smelcher.

[@09weenic]

Could be worse they could have chosen the name Juan Kerr

[@mrkipling2201]

Or Mike Hunt.

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

Or John Smith .......

[@LANCSKID]

Or Hugh Janus.

[@LANCSKID]

@@09weenicbrother of Wayne …

[@Ashs-mini-vlogs]

I hope the old bt scam victims had many more Happy years probably all dead now

[@davidhughmurrayuk]

Madge Massey Cooper, née Lings, lived until September 1993, at age 104. She was quite well known as an art collector (several of her pieces were donated to a museum) and her estate was worth £33,000 (although possibly more had been given away). Her two elder sisters lived to be 101 and 103. Anne Felicity Cooper died in 2013, at the age of 92.

[@Whizzer_]

Exactly like Sandi Toksvig!

[@valeriemacphail9180]

I wonder who could have written "la carnaval" when it is "el carnaval".

[@michaelpout2208]

hello

[@BlytheWorld1972]

Evening

[@swiftlydoesit8480]

Hi mate 👋

[@zahria]

Hello! :)

[@brettwyatt7165]

There's somebody breaking into my house help me

[@ianbousfield5007]

Does anyone out there buy real crime magazine ?The current issue has an article about melanie halls murder in bath in 1996

[@Hi-kq1vi]

Have thought about it-but I don't like the tabloidy/sleazy covers & layout on those type of magazines. It is like they are trying to male it as horrible/sleazy as possible/revel in people's misery just to shift as many copies. as they can.

[@3littlemaids1]

@@Hi-kq1vi you can buy true crime magazines

[@avagrace8893]

That me sorted now

[@imyourbiggestfan.9224]

So sad x

[@09weenic]

In the second reconstruction of the bogus telecom workers one of them demands a cup of tea - cheeky bassa . Did the police find these men ?

[@dominewimbury2039]

I found that demand horrible

[@mrkipling2201]

Cheeky tossers!!

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

I find it hard to believe real BT engineers would come into your house and ask you to make them a cup of tea.

[@Gfresh844]

Lol "quite often he's a woman"

[@eadweard.]

Invariably a man, quite often a woman and sometimes a child! 😂

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

@@eadweard. You forgot the dog .....

[@Wadworth6XLad]

The Karen Price case is a fascinating example of good detective work going from the known to the unknown. The CW File on the case though did pose a fews questions which I assume were answered somewhat by the quashing of Ali's murder conviction - in what way was he actually part of the murder? "Alison" did not mention that he attack Karen, only Chalton. Obviously he helped bury the body so was guilty of a lesser charge but I honestly fail to see how murder / manslaughter could be pinned on him from what we know. Clearly the lad was a bit backwards and if the cops had asked him about the Gunpowder Plot he'd've likely coughed.

[@Hi-kq1vi]

South Wales police were notorious for corruption/manipulating evidence/verbals/extracting confessions under duress/not following the PACE act. For all the good Crimewatch did it also likely helped to jail some innocent people due to the abysmal conduct of some of the forces they were working with.

[@Hi-kq1vi]

It was like a trip back into the 'good old days' before the PACE Act was bought in to prevent this type of nonsense-two interviews without a solicitor being present, interviews being conducted after the solicitor had left etc.

[@Wadworth6XLad]

Totally - see also the Lynette White case. The most heartbreaking example, and coming up shortly is the Lesley Molseed murder.

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

@@Wadworth6XLad Lesley Molseed was despicable. Cops got off lightly.

[@robertryan6782]

Did the fake BT guys get caught at all? Not finding anything but happy to be pointed in right direction.

[@NoEurosJustGuilders]

Another Unsolved murder another gangland this looks like ....keep them coming

[@mrkipling2201]

No March 1990 episode it would seem??

[@redcard7475]

There is, Andy uploaded that one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqOsmYxtnsiGm8U

[@mrkipling2201]

@@redcard7475 many thanks. You’ve done a great job with the uploads. Much appreciated.

[@tharealmikezee3165]

If you're gonna let strangers in your bedroom unsupervised...this show can't help you. The police can't help you.

[@MsVanorak]

even back then if a stranger was coming into your home you wouldn't leave jewelery on show surely!

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

@@MsVanorak It was like they knew there were valuables there, and even where to look. Imagine staying for a cup of tea! What if the woman had gone into the bedroom to check the phone connection, and seen the ornaments had gone. What a risk they took.

[@Peter-ix1ym]

Did they catch the bogus BT engineers?

[@revision99]

Does anyone know?

[@valeriemacphail9180]

Also would like to know.

[@Peter-ix1ym]

They must have made a fortune, couldn’t find any info on it

[@strongcoffee7]

Sue is such a fox 😁

[@chiefinspectorduvall6073]

She's hot. 🔥

[@LANCSKID]

You got that right.

[@dorianrose4622]

I wanna buy Redcar a nice Red Car 🚗

[@LANCSKID]

As featured in every CW.

[@johnniethepom7545]

11:51 , Quite often the con man is a woman . Ye Gods promote this man for his farsighted vision of gender identity . He was 30 years ahead of his peers .

[@ThepPixel]

9:18 ITS DOMINIC RAAB!

[@YJB8CCFC]

Mrs Chester looks foxy!

[@hypnotics7886]

Indeed.

[@1975ukandbored]

11.50 if in doubt call 999

[@48by40]

28:32 Dodgy Dave Cameron

[@strongcoffee7]

Late night binge hurrah!

[@LANCSKID]

So, remember - a conman … usually a man but he could be a woman. So that’s alright, then.