Redpill Conservative Pins Destiny w/ Gotcha Question Mid Debate

DEBATE: Destiny debates redpill conservatives on Stardust panel...
Date: 29 May, 2022
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Part 1 of the panel▼ Destiny Gets HEATED Against Redpill Conservative On Debate Panel ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIjUk51naJVsrrM

[@damonknight2494]

hello destiny, what it sounds to me like you want gamers to account for female gamers and to treat them differently, no banter, no shit talking, no edgy bitching to each other.... if women want to be treated equally to men in video game lobbies they should hit back at these nerds and sling their own shit at the people who are dissing them, not storming off the game or reporting the players or screaming down the microphone because they think that one guy is misogynistic, treat women like their equal to men

[@Zenith6174]

​@@damonknight2494 you can shittalk women in games and shit just don't shittalk them for being a woman lol.

[@PJmachine]

@@damonknight2494 Bruh what? Men don't get hate in gaming because of their gender. It's because of their skill. While Women WILL get hate mainly because of gender. Why not have equality where it's about skill and not a gender which they can't control. Seems unfair.

[@RossMellow]

@@damonknight2494 I thought the main point was that we have society in general and online culture are already treating female gamers differently because all the encouragement, advertisement and support is to the sons and not the daughters for success or achievements made related to video games and that difference that we already have is what's pushing them away. Although I don't know if it's a good idea to have someone take action in order to be treated equally in the first place, they should just be treated equally at the start.

[@TheMic13]

hi destiny would it be possible to get ur take on philions new video bored ape nazi club ?

[@ummmmmmmmmmmnmmmm]

It's very telling that the guys arguing that women "can't take the heat" in voice convos are incapable of listening to the female moderator and immediately throw a tantrum and leave when she is forced to mute them.

[@2live4football]

Agreed, but to be fair, it was pretty danged annoying that she kept trying to change the subject or move on when people were just starting to hash things out. Consensus doesn't go straight from statement to agreement. Sometimes they need time to formulate arguments for better communication of ideas. She wasn't doing a great job in that respect.

[@ummmmmmmmmmmnmmmm]

@@2live4football She mentioned that her chat wanted to change topic so I think she was doing her job by appealing to the demands of her audience. But I completely agree that big panel discussions like these need more time per topic to hash things out. I much prefer having an in depth analysis over just getting the general vibe of how each panelist feels about it.

[@pasikuisma1948]

It shows clearly where their hatred of women come from LOL. Its their insecurity lol. That why they took her comments so personally and rage quit lmaooo

[@BlueDirt_ProAggressive]

If it was Dylan dropping the mute hammer they would have just shut up and chilled out

[@notsorry3631]

I'm all for some misogyny and trolling women, but those guys are just losers who pretend they like to joke. they're not joking like most of the guys online. they actually hate women because they're actual losers and cant get any. Big Tech hit a woman while she had a child in her arms, and Beardson is a salty divorcee.

[@killer3000ad]

The two loudest and most obnoxious debaters quit when the female mod laid down the law and muted them for constantly speaking over everyone. How very fitting.

[@cameronstrouth7614]

> women just can't handle the banter > proceeds to soy out and rage quit Lol

[@kiritimatiswan1986]

Owned

[@anonymousjohnson8051]

The year is 2024. Destiny hasn’t streamed in over 2 years. August has just uploaded the 4th iteration of the Jontron debate, this time with additional music to supplement the previous edits. The house I’m in has gone decrepit. There are mice eating a stucco wall smeared with the grease of a pizza thrown after the third version of the Jontron debate was edited with tweets made by Vaush supporting a left wing version of Jon’s politics. I am getting cold. I cannot feel my feet. Soon, my legs will grow numb. I am still waiting for the next livestream

[@jaxsonhammerkawk7436]

🤣👏 this was funny

[@t-poison1731]

Least schizo DGGer

[@jacobburr3570]

You should get some mouse traps in the future!

[@ataridc]

Imagine deep fake jontron face with deepfake jontron dono voice. Endless content. We can have that mfer reciting mein kampf.

[@FrankRijkaard19]

we all do, we all do, fellow dgger

[@lucifenxarthos625]

The two guys talking about "men making their own world" and "just take it better" got their panties twisted because they weren't allowed to keep shouting over everyone and ragequit. Peak content.

[@uninspired7714]

First guy didn’t ragequit

[@Jr-bn7kc]

That guy sounded like mizkif

[@lucifenxarthos625]

@@uninspired7714 He just got mad that he was muted and left. Thats not a ragequit, right?

[@angryman_]

@@lucifenxarthos625 First guy was completely chill and mod muted him anyway, I'd be done too. Especially if my partner is such a dummy lmao

[@uninspired7714]

@@lucifenxarthos625 if you watched the rest of the video, you would legit see them 10 minutes later watching a clip of him apologizing that he had to leave to attend some other business and didn’t know how long he would stay muted for so he waved and left.

[@jgone4856]

"Do your arguments depend of god" "Well nature is a reflection of God's laws so no. I can just go natural if you prefer" 🤦‍♂️

[@frostbite3318]

⭕️

[@Darkpara1]

Check mate atheist

[@jogadorjnc]

Kudos to Stardust, she managed to gather some of the most awful people for the panel.

[@TheOutsider69]

Yeah she's really good at keeping shit company.

[@bryan.conrad]

Guys don't worry he's just busy working on the manifesto

[@MuscleboundKage]

He hasn't retired yet Copium

[@MP-cq7pm]

Lmafo

[@cody967]

Bro's he's waiting patiently for the perfect time, once voosh & hAzan are on the ropes (copes harder) he'll deploy the masterpiece and blow away all his enemies 😭😭😭

[@EGstill85]

True. I'll keep reminding myself.

[@phongo2972]

Any day now

[@josevonbuergenwader2]

“Men react to their reality better.” One of these dudes lost his fucking shit because someone talked over him. Then the two alpha males rage quit.

[@taravanova]

The irony of these guys subscribing to religious fairytales to deal with reality.

[@cscsontren5666]

But you know men just handle banter better. I can’t imagine making this argument verbally and then behaving in a way that so comically demonstrates the polar opposite of your argument.

[@WestinsChannel]

Might be a hot take... but they both rage quit. Ergo, neither are Alpha's... both must be Beta males.

[@cscsontren5666]

@@Name-cz5jj sure I don’t disagree with that but don’t know what that has to do with anything I said? My point was that the guy that said the banter bit (and the guy who was agreeing with him) both jumped out of the panel when their feelings were hurt.

[@MaliohammadDesigns]

@@cscsontren5666 The other person is saying what happened isn't banter, as she was forcing topics in the middle of convos

[@jacobd8351]

Desperation videos from the ether. Destiny come back.

[@Ttyumbra]

Is he still banned?

[@Green-tf8uw]

@@Ttyumbra he's not banned, he's traveling with his wife.

[@bentrinker1937]

Right? I actually had to go outside yesterday. It was scary.

[@reptar4life]

@mauricio I looked at his Google schedule and it wasn't clear to me when his Vaca is over... Do you know? I've touched grass and it's not as great as other people make it seem

[@Green-tf8uw]

@@reptar4life I think he said something like he will be back by the 4th. The grass no longer gives you comfort after you get used to Destiny's walls.

[@tehbloch]

"Women cant handle the banter and that's why they dont play games" *Leaves after getting muted for soying out* maybe you guys shouldn't be on debate panels

[@unclebobboomergames]

Harry potter and the audacity of this bch

[@SafavidAfsharid3197]

To be fair women get protected too much in online games and real life. I know we have empathy gap, gender ingroup bias and women are wonderful effect but still.

[@Evan-qb6vr]

@@SafavidAfsharid3197 dude if you think women are protected in online games you don’t play online games lmaooo

[@Evan-qb6vr]

@@SafavidAfsharid3197 like every time a women says anything in a cod lobby they get told to go make a sandwich

[@unclebobboomergames]

@@SafavidAfsharid3197 the problem is is that these dudea arent the ones to talk about it. They act the same as what theyre trying to say men are above

[@KoAkaiTengami]

Hey Destiny, I'm a Medicare Advisor and Insurance expert with one of the leading insurance companies in the USA (I don't want to disclose whom) and there is a lot about the state of our healthcare system that most people who aren't in the industry completely don't understand. For starters, I want to state that the USA's healthcare system is designed to extract as much money from both patients AND insurance companies as possible to maximize the return to the point of borderline extortion. This is mainly due to many people trying to get their own slice of the money pie as hospitals charge exorbitant amounts just for an ambulance, charge magnitudes higher than necessary because they know the insurance companies have to pay it and will low ball them on a $2000 procedure which likely costs $200 in another country, insurance companies have different payment schedules that doctors will either like or dislike thus making insurance a toss up if it'll even be accepted even if its government coverage, and for those who have no coverage there is no difference in the eyes of the hospitals so they charge them as if they're an insurance company. Its no wonder nobody goes to get checkups when you have to pay $150 just to have a doctor check your prostate. Even worse is how insurance companies (yes even the ones I am connected to) have a lot of ways to be disqualified from coverage even if you can afford it. The amount of clients I've had that had liver issues and could only qualify for graded policies is astronomical- and even when they get approved they still can't even use most of it for 2 years since they're such high risk to make a claim. I have to look people in the eyes and tell them "Sorry, you pay $30 a month but you gotta wait a year before your dental kicks in"- Even people who want and get coverage still get the short end of the stick, often having to endure periods of sickness or injury before finally having their coverage kick in to cover it. Its so late that I might not have typed too coherently, but I feel like this is a topic I wanted to get off my chest. Let's not even forget to mention insurance prices and how they aren't just calculated by age, community, Tabaco use, or other similar things, but the companies apply each year to have their price increase approved by the state's insurance board which I've seen approve %10 up to %20 increases- not to mention that these increases come right around this time of year (July) without giving anyone any increase in benefits. Even the allegedly "government paid" Medicare for seniors will ask you for a $1756 deductible on part A and a $274 premium on Part B which btw you should have both unless you're military or under 65. The only saving grace is that your $200 a month supplement covers that part A deductible- wow yay. Our system is massively flawed, unempathetic to the needs of Americans, and downright predatorial. My opinion how to fix our healthcare system: Set Medicare to be universal from 18 years old onward as a primary coverage to all Americans and allow private companies to sell supplementary secondary coverage which can act as a hole filler (which we already do for people 65+). Then set a national payment schedule standardization so that all doctors will be comfortable accepting all coverage, and set a nation wide insurance rate that can standardize the amount any company can raise its costs per year because if I see Etna apply for a 15% increase next year I'm going to lose my mind. I'm sorry to all the non-Americans who read this and are now horrified.

[@cscsontren5666]

Thanks for taking the time to write this. I found it very interesting and learned a ton!

[@cscsontren5666]

Damn that sounds sarcastic lol but I swear I’m being 100% genuine

[@mclazerz8931]

Totally right. I work in low income behavioral health and I have to turn people away bc they have the wrong kind of medicaid or Medicare. On the other end, I have multiple chronic illnesses. Despite that between my wife and I almost breaking 100k, we're hovering right over just making ends meet bc of my medical bills despite good insurance, and I havent even started treatment yet, its been over 10 years just now figuring out i have autoimmune and neurological problems (which I've been saying). Last year they caught cervical spinal stenosis at the point I was becoming paralyzed.

[@cscsontren5666]

@@mclazerz8931 I’m glad they caught it when they did. My one big draw to the left: how can we be a leading country in anything when this problem is anything but extremely rare. Many people have large enough amounts of medical debt that was accrued through no fault of their own yet that it becomes the source of significantly negative outcomes in all other aspects of your life. No idea the best way to do it, but in some form, universal healthcare has to be the path forward.

[@briddenattech]

Don't get me wrong, I no longer live in the US, but in the first paragraph I already know you are incorrect about your assumption about the hospitals simply trying to extract as much money as possible. We had insurance for many years and decided to pocket the difference of premiums. We know as a fact that we are charged WAY less as uninsured than when we were insured. Not only that but we often were charged after the insurance refused to pay 1/4 of the due amount. We had a child both on and off of insurance, and the out of pocket cost difference was almost negligible when you consider the cost of premiums. I now live in Japan and it is amazing that lack of difference depending on the care I receive. Japan has a socialized healthcare system and the cost wildly differs depending on what I'm having done. 2 orthopedic cleanings? 500$. Arthritis medication and joint aspiration? 70$. Some costs are higher than uninsured in the USA while others are much lower. The US system seems bad, but now that I've lived overseas and actually experienced the alternative... it's the same story, different place. Any policy that conflates 'health insurance' with 'health care' is going to be a losing policy. (Which is exactly what you are doing)

[@JuanTheBone]

The men saying men can handle banter threw a temper tantrum and rage quit when they were asked to shut up for 5 seconds lol

[@iamhappyso]

Timestamp?

[@SafavidAfsharid3197]

Well sadly men aren't a monolith?

[@furyberserk]

Banter =/= bullying Making noise isn't banter, it's literally annoying on purpose.

[@ccash3290]

@@iamhappyso around 35:00

[@swingingfordearlife]

I see what you’re trying to point out here in terms of irony but honestly stardust just slamming the brakes on a topic they were actively discussing is definitely annoying lol, like hitting the brakes repeatedly while trying to drive down a highway

[@govna3969]

August is out here fighting for his life pulling old debates and making them into videos destiny gotta make some new content god damn

[@Alex_Johnson_]

He's been traveling for over a week.

[@dtubbs]

We used to FeedNathan now we must FeedAugust

[@Xontor23]

Old debate? As in topic? Because he playing V Rising so it cant be that old

[@plsdontbanmeagainyoulibtards]

@@Xontor23 it was a month ago so not really that long ago, though sometimes I feel like august just sits on vids until destiny takes his next break.

[@koggiri]

58:14 destiny asks 'do you bring enough to the table to do that?' 59:19 dude asks question to destiny

[@JPEGBLACK]

thank you

[@Asharon]

thank you!

[@tayzk5929]

Big Tech is based

[@lawrencelord9777]

what a mind blowing moment that destiny admitted to the guy he would not say that to a black guy. therefore we shouldnt be saying that to men either. yet nobody wants to discuss this. misandry is at all time high that we cant even process the point the guy made.

[@rocketrelm1125]

@@lawrencelord9777 Yes, ignoring the part where Destiny said he would tell the black guy that, it's pretty mind blowing to know he wouldn't say that to a black guy. But regardless of that, I'm pretty sure I processed the guy's point that women should be literal, *actual* property and for it to be illegal for them to enter the workforce pretty well. I respect that, because you're a man and aren't threatened by what kind of society he's proposing, you're going to judge him as being pretty okay overall.

[@Onthebrink5]

Dude has no clue who Anne Hathaway is. "Think she is like 20." Yeah 20 years ago.

[@whizkidd2227]

Destiny: "you either dont play game or you probably play runescape all day." Me, literally playing runescape, pickpocketing elves: 😲Dame dog wtf i do?

[@avavavavaz]

you played runescape, thats what you did.

[@klinkclang]

steven obvs hasn't played runescape if he thinks rs players don't hate women

[@jtaylor9411]

@@klinkclang RS does not have VC was his point

[@PajamaJazama]

@@klinkclang only casuals like women

[@mat666234]

Ruinscape

[@MileenaUltra]

So, let me explain what it's like as a girl playing games: The moment I start a game and people notice my name, I'll immediately start getting voice chat invites or just general friend requests. If I talk to someone on mic, they will literally never leave me alone after that, I'll get invite after invite, message after message, it'll never stop. People will follow me around in game, some people will give me stuff, which probably doesn't sound bad but I want to do my own work, it's the purpose of playing the game. The others? They'll kill me just to grief me for being a woman and taunt me for being a woman if they do. I only play exclusively in solo servers now. The reason why it sucks more is because I also get that "grief" in real life, people not leaving me alone, catcalling in the street that can be pretty scary, gender based things in general, it's not very fun. I have a pretty stalwart personality, though. I can imagine for other women, it would 100%, in conjunction with their real life, dissuade them from playing. Not everyone is built for harassment.

[@NitBeanTheMachine]

Lol I love how when you get shit it’s bad, but when you get the benefits it’s somehow also bad I played WoW/league and the amount of times my female friends got free shit/skins just for having girl avatars is insane. There are obviously benefits to being a girl in an online space dominated by desperate guys.

[@andrewcox5873]

@@NitBeanTheMachine sounds like OP is saying they’d rather just be treated normal rather than the two extremes. Feels like a reasonable position

[@tayzk5929]

So you get a lot of privileges, that also comes with some negatives. K.

[@tayzk5929]

@@andrewcox5873 It's not a reasonable position, anymore than me wanting to go about my life not being affected by gravity.

[@benjoleo]

@@NitBeanTheMachine these “benefits” aren’t objectively positive for everyone. I think that a stranger trying to get in your pants via the internet is cringe regardless of how nicely he does it, but my gamer sister views this very differently. She just enjoys it when these weirdos give her gifts or unsolicited advice

[@IKhanmakeWAR2]

Dude went on a wacky rant about Hispanic people and how we can't have health care because we aren't some Christian Haven, what a wild ride

[@25taylorkw]

He probably thinks that the US can't maintain a universal healthcare system because there's a demographic with certain percentage that he thinks that they're too stupid to have a universal healthcare system, that guy's mindset towards that remind me of that one skit from the show WKUK about the Trail of Tears for some reason lol.kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppvWZZmIeNOVack

[@andrewcox5873]

His argument made no sense because he was arguing that Hispanics already use government funded healthcare as a reason why the rest of us can’t have it

[@AveSequoia]

Soak it up don’t dish it out Yt pays but no play

[@CrispBaker]

Just yelling WHAT DO YOU THINK HISPANIC GRANDMAS' RELIGION IS EXACTLY, CONFUCIANISM?? But seriously this guy is just larping, he knows full well that a society that tried to force women back into the home would be stupider, poorer, sicker and less stable, and he knows that society will never fit his dumb theory. He's just trying to grift money out of frustrated young men who can't get laid and think trad stuff will somehow fix that

[@Reglei1]

dont us citizens cross to mexico in places like nogales cuz mexicans have cheaper healthcare?

[@RealFreedomMG]

Destinys not streaming because he wants us so desperate for a crumb of content so when he comes back and plays league for weeks we'll be happy with what we've got. Don't give in to the temptation brothers! The rift calls but we must resist!

[@bentrinker1937]

No he won’t relapse. He won’t do it.

[@onigengu7846]

@@bentrinker1937 he ALWAYS... relapses

[@Yor_gamma_ix_bae]

Pos

[@Yor_gamma_ix_bae]

I’m becoming a communist if he only streams league.

[@travelerfinder7840]

@@bentrinker1937 He already relapsed before he left and went something like 4 wins 1 lose. it was an amazing run

[@sarahcoleman3598]

3/4 girls in my household play video games and I fully believe it is because the three that did had an older brother eager to share and play video games with us and normalize them in my home growing up. With that said, I’ve always felt uncomfortable telling people I like video games, it’s abolsutely something that is stigmatized. On top of that my 16 year old youngest sister doesn’t even play on headset most of the time because she gets called sexist names. There are so many discouraging factors to why women don’t play video games.

[@ravedubin3983]

@@Name-cz5jj So cool bro 😎

[@tb8654]

@@ravedubin3983 I've been called wet-back before... still returned to play. One day us Mexicans will take over online video games and we will be the ones using slurs

[@ravedubin3983]

@@tb8654 Yes and?

[@xbabu142x]

@@Name-cz5jj Over all my years gaming I have never had a guy doxxx me and send rape threats cause I didn't pay enough attention to him. If that is the risk for making friends online I wouldn't do it either cause I would get bored playing solo.

[@thepubquiz3198]

*It's biological* "Toy story: Why do monkey and human males prefer trucks? Comment on “Sex differences in rhesus monkey toy preferences parallel those of children” by Hassett, Siebert and Wallen" NCBI " Showing that sexually dimorphic toy preferences reflect basic neurobiological differences between males and females and are not caused solely by socialization, as has been suggested by cognitive-social theories of gender role behavior" Males are more interested in things and females are more interested in people, or the species equivalent . Which is demonstrated through multiple studies with humans and other animals where males play with trucks more often, and females play with dolls more often. Which is why the majority of teachers, vets and care roles, are dominated by women, where men are over represented in things like engineering and science etc. So although to an extent video games are becoming more sociable, women do prefer to have conversations in person, as speech is just one aspect of socialising, you're missing out on so much of the social experince when you can't see someone's face, and have the distraction of someone having their head shot or chopped off on a screen. So it's not the market forcing girls to play with things like dolls, and boys video games, it's girls forcing these companies to market dolls to them, and it's boys forcing these companies to market video games to them. *Response to gaming* "Gender-related differences in neural responses to gaming cues before and after gaming: implications for gender-specific vulnerabilities to Internet gaming disorder" NCBI "Gaming-related cues elicited higher cravings in male vs female subjects. Prior to gaming, males demonstrated greater activations in the striatum, orbitofrontal cortex (OFC), inferior frontal cortex and bilateral declive. Following gaming, male subjects demonstrated greater activations in the medial frontal gyrus and bilateral middle temporal gyri. In a post-pre comparison, male subjects demonstrated greater thalamic activation than did female subjects." "Short-term gaming elicited in males vs females more craving-related activations to gaming cues. These results suggest neural mechanisms for why males may be more vulnerable than females in developing Internet gaming disorder." *Biological Advantages In Video Games* So although you could argue that culture may further the differences between men and women getting into video games, it is also biological, and men also have biological advantages to better at video games.They have a more robust hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis, which allows them to deal with more stressful situations more efficiently, better hand to eye coordination and quicker reaction times for example. And secondly studies have shown that when men and women are given more freedom and less social pressure, that women become more interested in people, and men become more interested in things, which is why in Scandinavian countries, even more women go into care roles, and even more men go into engineering etc. So you would expect the same to be true for video games as well.

[@drdoomer8553]

No offense but the show got like 10x less interesting when the 2 red pillers left

[@umangmalik]

you can't have a functional panel if people are constantly talking over the moderator and disrespecting the flow of topics.

[@kingcheesus7591]

@@umangmalik yeah, but it still got boring

[@tyberiusmcintyre3411]

i think it was the topic change more than the change of people tbh, not a lot of people could make the topic interesting if they tried

[@AUstudios]

@@umangmalik ok but star barely moderates it seems like shes not often paying attention.

[@neurocapable]

Stardust asserts a little bit of authority and two men immediately rage quit: An excellent example of how women are shaped (learn) to not be authoritative.

[@synlion]

Alternatively: Women learn that being authoritative gets rid of insufferable people.

[@blackbird42]

"Women are not playing games", I'd rather say women don't play competitive games or just FPS games. Try looking into MMOs, there is surprising amount of women there and I'd say they don't get so much flak for it.

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

And single player games. I'd be willing to bet Animal Crossing is 50/50 male and female

[@Lkjhgf5482]

And games like Stardew Valley, Minecraft, Animal Crossing, Pokemon.

[@KristianKumpula]

@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor Yup, especially RPGs with a focus on story and characters. For instance Dragon Age: Inquisition's playerbase apparently has a nearly 50/50 gender split.

[@xbabu142x]

Tbh if I was a woman I would not want play those video games either. Just look at this convo. Literally every woman I have known that plays online video games online has gotten rape threats for stuff like not paying enough attention to some dude at one point or another. Like this is in most multiplayer games with voice. It's why I don't personally care about simp farming. I see it as a result of the simps thinking women don't' have the capacity to think and survival of the fittest allowing the few who have the mental fortitude to make a profit.

[@TumpsBudGuy]

@@KristianKumpula Because women are interested in People and Men are interested in Objects its literally the cause of why videogames are more male dominant. Its why men get the mid life crisis Porsche and women join social clubs.

[@magicdragon9621]

It's so exhausting hearing these guys say the same arguments over and over (work husbands, the most fertile women are who all men must go for, etc). These are all personal preferences and we all know people who don't fit into that mold. I stay to hear Destiny try to talk some sense into them.

[@SleepyNoodle140]

That's insanity for you, just stuck in a constant loop.

[@RollingCalf]

Biomass is important. Our population is way too small

[@SlickWillHermsted]

Just the content I needed in the nick of time

[@danhill3302]

It is so weird that there are people out there who create an entire identity out of hatred and that there are other people who go out of their way to interact with them. The whole thing is such a pile of shit.

[@bathcat3759]

Lol yeah. Like calling any and all conservatives racist, sexist, nazis

[@randomrealistictone2231]

Because they are losers and they know it. It's just pure cope.

[@ChaseFace]

Month-old content after a week of no streams let's goooooo

[@taravanova]

"Universal healthcare can only work if people in society are more Christian." Checks notes:

[@tayzk5929]

I'm from Scandinavia, people here are more Christian than people in the US. Just because many Americans claim to be Christian, doesn't mean they are.

[@taravanova]

@@tayzk5929 Personal anecdotes and idiosyncratic definitions aside, every poll on the subject agrees with me...

[@tayzk5929]

@@taravanova Nope.

[@taravanova]

@@tayzk5929 I thought Scandinavians were more educated than this, but I guess being religious results in brain worms regardless of geography.

[@cscsontren5666]

@@taravanova damn what did dude say that somehow disagreed that the above take is so backwards it almost seems like it would be satire but no those were his actual arguments.

[@brucculi349]

Why am I not surprised that the two most rabidly misogynist people here are also people who got divorced?

[@HCrescentMoon]

Bless August for zooming the chat enabling me to read it from my side monitor

[@chasepalumbo2929]

Dude destiny obliterated those dudes framework in real time in the second half lmao. Stardust saved they ass

[@brysbeddict8300]

Oh hey that’s me. I am not at all satisfied with how I did here, but what a great learning experience!

[@brysbeddict8300]

@@GladiatorSlows the beard and blue shirt.

[@clutrike7956]

@@brysbeddict8300 .....Who?

[@Twistedhippy]

Oh I enjoyed your contribution! Wait the blue shirt? ? Nevermind ;)

[@mielipuolisiili7240]

Why'd you get pissed off at the moderator doing her job?

[@ChunkyJo]

May I kindly ask if there’s any plans to bring video chapters back?

[@bluefootedpig]

Question to Christian guy. Wife and I got married in college. No kids until our 30s. She just... cleans our house for a decade?

[@blackyellowbadjello]

He would obviously say you should have had kids much earlier.

[@CrowbarOfJustice]

Only if you don't want to destroy Christianity and by extension destroy human civilization /s

[@jarad9946]

why does the guy named "beardson" have such a weak beard

[@skullingtonfx4441]

Because he's surrounded by nicks twinks lmao

[@Kahez]

he hasn't been taking his testoterone pills

[@travelerfinder7840]

Ann Hathaway is 39.

[@Lachronix]

Lucky her

[@femboyaliens789]

Love the subtitles editor!

[@SylBear]

Destiny, I love your convos. Totally binging. But can you put up a “B Side” without the gaming and larger pictures of you and speakers?

[@Priinsu]

18:25 I used to not think much about this until I was playing WZ with my friends and I asked them why dont we ever run into any girls on here when we do party searches? There's a youtuber called spawntaneous she has a YT series called "OMG it's a girl" Where she unmutes her mic and game lobbies and the dudes in those lobbies absolutely lose their sh*t it's almost like flipping a light switch. S.Harassment, sh*t talking, team killing her, trolling her, it all comes out. That series is now on part.28 If I encountered that everytime I got on game just for simply being there, I wouldn't want to game either.

[@checoweco4772]

whats the time stamp for the gotcha question.

[@mannyoftheeast3318]

I second this, somebody help me, I don't want to watch this for two hours

[@larsmichael6242]

found it 59:00

[@carljohnson3434]

@@mannyoftheeast3318 This is where the topic starts: 57:45 The actual gotcha question is at: 59:20

[@ic9485]

59:20

[@PhuQDuP]

@@mannyoftheeast3318 59:15

[@sarinat3101]

I haven't even watched the debate yet but I have a strong opinion about it that contradicts the one you have.

[@thestephster35]

Where are the panels of only women talking about what men want, what they are like, and how they experience and interpret life?

[@KKris10]

ive never seen such an insecure guy lmao, his rant at that guy making noises was so bad

[@pawel8365]

Is it that Beardly guy? That little dude that got absolutely bodied by Louis Theroux? Hilarious that he still shows his little face.

[@tcritt]

Where was this? in one of his documentaries?

[@skullingtonfx4441]

GET OUT OF MY HOUSE we... we aren't even in your house 🤣

[@dasracistyo3043]

@@skullingtonfx4441 they were literally in his house tho....

[@skullingtonfx4441]

@@dasracistyo3043 no they were in his yard. Louie never made it in lmao

[@monkeybudge]

He’s such an insecure little manlet

[@loominnaughty]

Great moderation here. Extremely impressed, I’m definitely gonna check out her channel at some point.

[@VolvoCommand]

Red pillers get turned down by one girl and then just scream the game is rigged. It’s so cringe.

[@meteorwalkergg]

Through a lot of debates Destiny has done on gender role motivations & results in dating & relationships - I believe in marriage being legally contingent upon signed & notarized agreement of a Co-parenting Plan (many of which are right now apart of some states' legal divorce processes anyway) so that document is loaded & ready to go and your child/children don't get cucked for their entire lives over their parents being absolutely terrible at maintaining a life partnership 🇺🇲

[@my7username7is]

If these people say "men are better at these things, so they should do those jobs". With women exceedingly doing well in education, and if in a generation women become better equipped for work, would they argue that "men should stay at home because women are better at work"?

[@mechaux1]

They just want a world where men work and women wait to be claimed because men have all the money and make all the choices they explicitly want a world unfairly biased towards men at the direct cost of every woman's freedom because they feel that women's standards are too high

[@my7username7is]

@@dogeatdog6157 no they don't, cuz it's the same people that say single mothers are terrible at raising children. So the bottom line is, "men good, women bad", I think.

[@ng4logic]

Woman geeting lesbian dance theory deegres are really not more equipped for work. And many jobs does not require deegre.

[@AUstudios]

@@ng4logic you spelled degree wrong the same way twice, maybe you're not the authority on this topic.

[@Oppenheimer1967]

@@dogeatdog6157 Are you disagreeing with the college graduation rates or is that affirmative action liberal government assistance? Lol

[@LoneWulf278]

@01:03:59 Guys like this will say the wildest shit, then turn around and pretend to care about women’s happiness. 🙄 I guess lobotomies, electric shock therapy, and throwing women in psych wards for “hysteria” was about our happiness, too. Women in this dynamic are usually miserable and they know it. Anti-depressants were actually first advertised to 1950’s housewives because they were known to have these mental problems. That’s what makes these assertions about our happiness so laughable. They know full well that our emotional health is not important in this conversation. Who are they fooling?

[@antoniusgrave1348]

Everything the Christian dude states is a fucking personal desire. You can not get out of that notion, even in the case of sacrificing one’s self for another. It’s still a personal desire.

[@krunkle5136]

Instead of a Christian society, I think we need one with a set of secular virtues that are stringently taught in schools, like honesty, compassion, loyalty, wisdom etc. Christianity falls apart with the fact God isn't proveable.

[@mrmr2488]

Christianity does not fall apart because god isn’t provable. Im an atheist, yet I can’t deny that almost all of my morals come from Christianity. The influence Christianity has had on western civilization far outweighs anything else. The reason these guys couldn’t give their own value/moral framework is because they know it would be a reflection/extension of Christian morality. Just because something is old and hasn’t changed in a while, doesn’t mean it’s wrong. It probably means it’s working or has worked. Just because we were born after the people that divined it, doesn’t mean it’s any less relevant. Humans are humans and always have been. We are the same humans, with the same instincts and desires, that existed 100,000 years ago.

[@synlion]

A secular church essentially.

[@BouncinBrandon]

Sorry but I'm 40 minutes in and Destiny has talked like twice, what's up with this content of Destiny either throwing a video on or be in a debate but he only interjects after an hour or so?!

[@primedcg]

The highlight of these is listening to stardust struggle to keep the panel together 😂

[@beenz07]

Who is the guy who enters the panel at minute 40 on the bottom left corner?

[@coolboy9979]

I always find it hilarious when 5 men talk about women issue while there is a women (im aware that she is the moderator)

[@LoneWulf278]

Yeah, it’s kinda awkward to listen to sometimes.

[@johannesstephanusroos4969]

woman*, singular

[@twilli_tivianne]

as liberals we value liberty... why couldn't they just say that? Destiny spent 30 minutes trying to lead them down that road but they couldn't get there... the dude even bit the slavery bullet x.x

[@micell826]

Inorite? Guys could have literally quoted the first line of the Wikipedia page on liberalism and said that's our values, that's how we wanna do things. This seemed like the obvious response to a guy advocating for a totalitarian theocracy. Then when we wanna keep asking why liberal values are good, we have to remember to also ask why it's good to do what the bible says. Not everyone will answer the same way. IF the answer is that following the bible leads to human flourishing generally and avoids the pain of hell individually then we're looking at very common motivations of collective and individual interest that liberals can also recognize, except that they have a stronger emphasis on individual liberties and prolly very different ideas on what achieves human flourishing for society and the individual. So a lot of good and bad is just gonna be pleasure and pain on either side. You could also say following the bible is required no matter what because God is the ultimate authority. But the guy on this panel said that following the bible has concrete utility for humans so no need to go into the argument for full on submission here.

[@123Genome]

Listening to that guy flounder around was utterly painful. Not giving a real answer to destiny, claiming he doesn't have a moral system, and then trying to make one up on the fly based on economic analysis. What a mess.

[@greyhound4204]

Do we now have "extended director's cut ediction" reposts of past debates?

[@Oppenheimer1967]

Lol

[@Draumr8]

daily wire ads for jordan peterson are playing before the video

[@aweyeah2046]

ive grown up playing online with guys so i can certainly give and take banter, but it’s really frustrating being treated differently from all them because im a woman. hearing the same dishwasher + sandwich maker jokes just isn’t funny. if ur gonna insult me at least dig deeper than my gender lmao kinda sucks though cause now ive been put off from talking in chat just so i can avoid weirdos

[@kyrillpanasenko881]

why are you so fragile

[@leftisbestpolitics]

Gotta say this was a tough conversation to sit through. It seems there weren’t much interesting conversations going on. There’s definitely been better bangers than this one. Let’s see more IRL events and get more one on one convos

[@TheSethcast]

Real talk thx I'll skip this one

[@dykemoder]

thanks vaush

[@leftisbestpolitics]

@@dykemoder I should probably change my name by now. It was chosen before I knew better

[@mrmr2488]

The problem with this discussion was the moderator. Every time it was getting good, she would stop it and complain about it being circular and such. These conversations always start out circular because you have to keep repeating your ideas so the other person can understand. It’s like a total misunderstanding of how this stuff should go.

[@williamlawson7852]

Stardust try not to ruin the conversation challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[@devalapar7878]

We had slavery for most of the civilized history. Slavery got unpopular only in the modern era. So, why didn't people get upset during the Roman Empire and abolish slavery?

[@Oppenheimer1967]

Too economically beneficial for them to stop.

[@displacegamer1379]

40:45 The comparison to military versus our healthcare outcomes are not quite equivalent. One of the reasons why we have one of the strongest military is because we are a necessary component for a lot of the other defense systems around the world. Other countries are dependent on us to secure their freedoms and their power so it is insured that our military is strong. I would imagine that if it was the case that the world also relied on our health care for their well being then our health care would also be one of the best health care systems in the world. Now the world does rely in an aspect of our healthcare, the R&D sector. Which is why America has some of the best R&D anywhere else in the world.

[@cscsontren5666]

This is excellent! And man what ridiculous shit did name say? Why these guys have to delete their comments. Although I guess realizing you were saying something stupid and being embarrassed enough to delete it is better than the ones who never realize their positions are just based in fantasy or too dumb to follow and continue to argue with the confidence of a Native American, blind and deaf transgender orphan who’s father was a veteran applying for college scholarships.

[@CaptainCastle]

The thing with gaming lobbies is they focus on whatever traits are easy to mock. Women get sexism, black dudes get racism, kids get ageism, etc. It's just targeted shitheadery

[@zenithpath8707]

That's what I was thinking blacks and other minorities would get racial insults left and right.

[@Zhyro00]

Yeah but minority status is easy to mock because we live in a society that is extremely prejudicial towards them, most "mocking" of minorities in lobbies relies in stereotypes that are already prevalent outside gaming. this "well gaming its toxic if you cant handle it you dont belong" mentality ignores the fact that 1: the environment is more toxic to some people than others and 2: that toxicity is not unsolvable and we shouldn't just deal with it.

[@AkaiKnight]

Unless you’re a white guy 🤷‍♂️

[@SeruraRenge11]

@@Zhyro00 As a great man once said, "Look, you can't take away people's right to be assholes. It makes you an Evil Mr. Rogers."

[@benrosn8154]

Who are the names of the people on this panel

[@nightmode5000]

what does opening mics mean?

[@cr71306]

Date 29 May Sadge

[@lc7173]

As a sus pilled gamer man, I will live to see the Godstiny manifesto.

[@bentrinker1937]

You won’t.

[@pleinair6318]

It's coming COPIUM

[@blocherxk6618]

[@SnoopGotTheScoop]

amogus

[@drewroberts139]

No timestamps anymore?

[@hampusnemeth0801]

What game is it that Destiny is playing atm?

[@inxiti]

Girl's love Fortnite, and Anime, especially younger ones. It just depends on the parents, friends, location, etc. edit: All of this designed by God "logic" can be as easily dismissed by stating that "God must have made mistakes making those people" or "God is allowing it." God either "made it" all or he didn't, which means he isn't all-powerful, and a person trying to understand the mind of God is non-sensical to begin with.

[@peewee130946]

I can’t watch this, these people are literally insane

[@xbabu142x]

Agreed, that beginning convo was right out of a 80s how not to act video.

[@TheMic13]

hi destiny would it be possible to get ur take on philions new video bored ape nazi club ?

[@staywokecuhh]

What game is this? I want to play it

[@DODIRTT]

I really wish I could do these type of things. I get so anxious when I hear dumb shit. Like I really wish people could push these conservatives more on their points. First of all we have physical differences between sex. That doesn't equate to women not being able to do things that men can do. Video games are meant to be fun. Some people find fun in competitive games. And even in that catagory. You have people who might play casual. Other strive to be the best. But I see no objective fact that says woman are bad at video games when video games are more than pvp. And even then if you have a woman who doesn't win a tournament that doesn't make her a bad player. The worst person in a tournament is probably better than 70% of the player base. The guy who comes in talking about his experience with the medical field. I would push him on what the solution to that specific problem with people faking emergencies and getting free rise to the hospital that normally would cost $1,000. Because this would force him to think about a solution and you can counter if he goes down the Hispanic line more because while I can grant his experience to a extent. It's anecdotal and can't be applied to everyone. Because while it may be true that some people will take advantage. That doesn't mean we shouldn't have a program based on that logic. I just suspect that he is biased and is exaggerating the f*** out of that example. The women shit again is terrible. You do not get to call a whole group something based upon your own experiences. And plus women are people not dogs that need to be obedient. A relationship is about 2 people working together. This is old ways of thinking. And as far as his Christian values. Look no further than Muslim counties for why a society ran on religion doesn't work. There is a reason why this isn't a Christian country and we have laws and rights in our constitution that go against Christianity for a reason. Free speech being one of them. You have a right to be a Christian and express your religious beliefs. But you don't have a right to force everyone else to follow your religion. And people have the right to express religious beliefs other then Christianity. It's call freedom of religious expression and not freedom of only religious expression for a reason.

[@zacperazzo5847]

"medi-cal is just used by hysterical mexican women" as a 27 year old with cancer, i'd be financially RUINED without medi-cal. probably wouldnt've gotten the same level of care without it either.

[@ChipCheerio]

As a poor 22 year old with no other way to get health insurance while at school, medi-cal is super helpful.

[@zacperazzo5847]

@@mindlander like deductible wise, id be screwed because i wouldn't be able to afford good insurance. otherwise i believe each of the 30 days i've spent doing chemo would be ~$2000 each JUST to sit in the infusion room. the actual drugs cost money too. ive had COUNTLESS cat scans at ~$1000 each. at the end of each round of chemo i did they gave me a neulasta injection to make my bone marrow produce more white blood cells to prevent neutropenia - six total at ~$6000 each. i had three surguries, oriechtomy was ~$7000, RPLND was ~$10,000, & i had 2 stents put into my IVC which i believe was also ~$10,000. also because i have stents now i have to take blood thinners everyday for the rest of my life which would be ~$600/mo without insurance. so about $120,000 not factoring in the cost of CT scans or any prescription meds/actual chemo drugs. also 10 of my chemo days were inpatient & cost more than the other 20. also had like 3 hospital stays during chemo due to immune system complications which i didn't factor in. also not factoring in individual doctors appointments & other things they nickel & dime you on. so a lot of fucking money lmao

[@ChipCheerio]

@@mindlander I can’t afford anything without it and due to issues with my job I can’t get any other healthcare plan. I can’t afford vision, I can’t afford any procedures, nothing. So it’s a lifeline in a lot of ways.

[@ChipCheerio]

@@mindlander Vision exams, routine checkups, dental cleanings, prescriptions that kind of thing. I mean you can literally look up the coverage if you want.

[@NinjashoeGames]

man I miss the time stamps 😭

[@dwyoung55]

"Guys have you heard of this phenomenon called 'at work husbands'" lool

[@revolutionoftheclassics3630]

These guys are trying to say there are no female gamers what? The best Super Mario Player I have ever seen is a gal SNWY who clears insanely difficult levels. In 2022 there are a lot of female gamers.

[@MikeTall88]

Yeah I don't count people that play mobile games as gamers and I'm having a problem finding numbers on how many female gamers there are. Share a link?

[@CrispBaker]

Wiiiiild that the guy doesn't know that the whole "Nintendo is for boys" thing was literally because of sex-separated toy aisles and an arbitrary choice of "f--- it, put it in the boy's section", before then girls and boys both played atari and pong and such Also anybody who thinks girls don't play games needs to fire up ffxiv, limsa is more estrogen-choked than a knitting forum

[@CrispBaker]

@@MikeTall88 ...why wouldn't you count them as gamers? Yeah, candy crush and all that, but the majority of people playing shit like Fortnite and Genshin and even CoD are mobile players. Hell, "hidden object" games are basically oldschool puzzle games, and those are crazy popular with women

[@beybladedude12345678]

Also look at fighting games. There are MANY female fighting game players. One of the best tekken players from America is a girl (cuddle core)

[@ChickenPaulYT]

I need someone to answer this for me. I'm at 1:03:39 and the guy is talking about how women "shouldn't" work unless given promission by their father or husband, and when they do work they should only do nurturing work (nursing, baby sitting, daycare). I'm just trying to figure out how, with his thought process, we replace 71.75 million jobs (This is how many women work in the US). Lets say half of those women are in nurturing jobs already, Then I still have to ask, where do we find 35,875,000 workers to replace the women who are no longer working. And I'm going to assume he doesn't only hold this view for American women, but all women. So where do we find workers to replace all the women of the world when they leave their jobs? I'm tired when writing this. If anything is misspelled or the grammar is incorrect, just know... I don't care.

[@Emery6393]

He’s a larper who is too focused on his sexism rather then the practical factors in his suggestions.

[@purplemonkeydishwasher9818]

Well, by his way of thinking, those jobs wouldn’t be replaced, they would be done at the behest of their husbands. I would bet he would argue for a sort of incremental approach arguing that as it is, the lack of family first approach to working privileges production over family cohesion.

[@swickens930]

Forget these chubs answers no one answered seriously. It's crazy how bad these takes are. Men are forced to work by nature and society. Women are not. If there was one sex that could be classified as "forced to work," it would be men. This means that men, by nature, occupy the workplace inherently, and obviously they occupy it first because of this. So if a women wants to join a work force, it's not up to her. It's up to the men, seeing they already occupy that location in a defacto sense. Imagine a football team thats made of all men and the team is full. If a woman wanted to join that team, it wouldn't be up to her would it? It would be up to the people who already occupy that team. But in this sense, it's the workplace, not a football team. The argument is that this phenomenon is defacto by nature. Also, it's actually not the women's choice to enter that space, it's the choice of the people who already occupy that work space, which by nature and fact, has always been men. This is literally the exact argument he's making

[@Chasechillz]

At about 1 hour in it felt like we time traveled back to the 1600s

[@dapperdave4207]

I thought I had heard this before and then I went to the comments and learned I was right.

[@freedomordeath89]

21:55 "no body wants to grind solo, people want to chat with friends" that hurts Destiny, you making me sound like a schizo :-( I even go offline in games toa void my friends seeing me and forcing me to go on discord to chat with them...I hate playing with other people with voice, they always end up chatting and ignoring the game...if you want to chat, let's go to a bar ffs

[@MrZacdeath]

So true my dude

[@mBUSHattack]

Big same. I'm even more reclusive, my friends are always begging me to play with them, but I hate multiplayer games, I just like playing alone. If you want to talk, I'll hang out, sure, but gaming alone is my sacred recharge from society time.

[@plsdontbanmeagainyoulibtards]

I feel like it's odd she changed the subject post haste when everyone was involved and contributing to the conversation (even if that one guy was getting cringe and screaming it was at least content) but then she switches to a topic in which she couldn't even explain the question when people were straining themselves to engage with it; then let that topic and ones succeeding that to just drone on. I think if she could just work on that aspect of these debate panels it would have exponential returns for the quality of the stream.

[@MrLogicallyrandom]

who is that dude without the face cam?

[@jaredc5169]

Destiny you should really put what game you are playing in your videos.

[@hmhs77]

Just at the 12 minute mark. I think the bearded guy got it right the first time before correcting himself. Women had more participation in labor force prior to industrial revolution. Even with hunter and gatherers, women usually produce more than men (around 80%) and control their own resources. Just look at how often women dominate traditional markets. The old chestnut beloved by some evo psych folks that women need rugged male providers because they are stuck birthing and taking care of babies doesn't really pan out empirically if you look around the globe. Gathering was where the majority of the calories came from, not hunting done by men. Hunting is technically often more prestigious, but then everybody starts "insulting your meat." Even with some very patriarchal pastoralists women's agriculture was more important economically than men's herding. It is relatively late that specialization and industrialization started to separating the private and public spheres in terms of production, and then you get things like the cult of true womanhood or domesticity. It's interesting how in 19th century a major project Christian missionaries almost always undertook was to establish the centrality of the nuclear family. This was also meant to tie women more strictly to their roles as a wife and a mother. They had to be obedient and provide a moral example for the male head of household. This often eroded the important ties women had to their own kin groups, which were typically the major source of their social prestige and societal agency.

[@tayzk5929]

Lmfao, your view of human history is laughable.

[@ryu9123]

@@tayzk5929 nope, they're right. It's laughable to think that all women throughout history did was stay at home and pop out kids. My country is ex communistic and even before communism and women's emancipation women were working the fields and livestock. In communism most women were working pretty much everywhere, factories, power plants, agriculture etc. This idea that women were just stay at home moms is sooo middle class american. I've even asked my grandpa and he said that his own grandma and grandpa were both working hand in hand in the fields, taking care of the farm.

[@tayzk5929]

@@ryu9123 Ex-communist, not ex communistic... Literally no one is saying women didn't do work, being a stay at home mom IS doing work. Most of human history, wether hunter and gatherers or agriculture, women stayed home and did work around the home. This is simply a fact. The farm is HOME so wtf are you talking about nigga.

[@cscsontren5666]

Very well said. I’ve always thought this basic idea that hey back in the day where a lot of life was pure survival why wouldn’t both sexes work for the good of their family/group/community? Especially when one of the sexes, whose most important purpose is birthing and being the primary caregiver for children, still has time and skill to dedicate to other areas even while doing their main role with complete satisfaction. I feel like humans in general back then used many more of the hours of a day. Maybe because life is easier now this whole progression (regression some would say I imagine) has been good for the species (better survival). But that doesn’t mean that thinking women should ONLY pump out babies and then lay around all day caring for the baby is somehow biological or genetically or anything other than pure societal pressure is defendable in the slightest. Could certainly argue if the societal change you see now is good or bad but you can’t argue that the way women are viewed now bears any resemblance to actual history or because of some “innate, biological truth” that women just have/need to stay at/in the home with the children.

[@hmhs77]

@@tayzk5929 Evidence just doesn't support the idea that women have been stay at home moms throughout human history, with little more to do than take care of babies. The very idea of separating "home" from work and the public sphere is a fairly new one. In domestic mode of production women's productive role was usually highly important. Sure, you get a lot of variance depending on productive technology. In hoe or shifting agriculture women's labor was extremely important, but with plow agriculture women work less in the fields. This is why some have argued that brideprice correlates with hoe agriculture, since it is meant to compensate for the female labor. Working class women worked a lot during the industrial revolution too. Heck, the major invention that people associate with industrial revolution - the spinning jenny - was attacked by women because it reduced the demand for women's work in the textile industry.

[@resiliencevideos]

"mens roles are very cool" steven ya needa work a heavy construction job in 104 degrees for a month my guy

[@iwillgowiththatcat8667]

I was going ask do men don’t romanticizes their experiences? Cause there’s nothing romantic about men’s experience in my humble opinion

[@cscsontren5666]

Don’t think he meant every possibly conceivable role that a man may have but more that the typical, classic traits or characteristics (at least historically, now a days it seems like all you hear about regarding male traits is “toXiC MaScuLiNiTy”) associated with men are arguably much “cooler “ than the trait counterparts associated with females. I personally take it as a challenge to try and embody those traits of strength, honor, toughness, loyalty, honesty, etc. You disagree with any of the above?

[@myotakuacountyo1216]

To me those are the cool men, not the ones described in the video. People from both sides think physical differences and they immediately jump to the "good" parts. People think that men due to being naturally more athletic are guaranteed the positions of power in the military and top athletic benefits, but I immediately think about construction mines and all those really fun low paying jobs, which is frankly one of the few reasons that I am glad to be a woman lol

[@cscsontren5666]

@@myotakuacountyo1216 I agree 100% that men that truly embody those traits are the cool ones not just men who talk about having those traits with zero real evidence of them only claiming to have them. With that being said, I think some of the traits associated with women are awesome traits/characteristics too but sometimes we seem to socialize women to not identify with and embody those traits but instead more problematic/less desirable traits.

[@myotakuacountyo1216]

@@cscsontren5666 I think women are often told their femininity is something that makes them inferior, so of course we are going to deny those traits even if they are awesome. I am a woman who naturally has personality traits more associated with masculinity, I am assertive adventurous, usually like taking lead ect. So it is good to keep in mind that those roles are not as rigid as we think, but can't deny that men and women are inclined to specific traits either. However women won't admit it because we are often looked down for those traits, they give a more subtle power, I can't imagine how my house would function growing up without my mother's gentleness and willingness to compromise and cooperate with everyone, she was basically the director of the house!

[@joesmith332]

Anyone know the name of the guy on the bottom left in the beginning of the video?

[@feliz2564]

Kai Clips

[@NewMaite]

The inconsistency of a subjective mind is sad. Destiny made great points for those two and in the end, it came down to "I don't know" or "I don't have any".

[@3rdCoastAlliance]

First time I've seen this Mike-guy, but at the 1:02:44 mark I'm thinking to myself: "Wow, this guy is a Grade A bigot for real." Then 1:11:28 happened, and I was like: "Uh oh, suspect fascist." Then 1:12:14 happened, and I was like: "Okay, full-on fascist." Nice find Stardust 👌😅

[@Iconcupiscence]

yeah he sounds like a commie

[@wantedhume975]

She legitimately doesn’t know how to run a show. It didn’t fall apart, she destroyed it by having to have control.

[@t-poison1731]

What should she have done?

[@donaldthompson6808]

@@t-poison1731 Mute people.

[@ryohio4706]

It's not a big deal, but I agree, I thought that the whole time., It just seemed like she didn't really care or have any investment whatsoever in any of the boring questions she was bringing up for them to talk about. Idk, it definitely wasn't the best ran panel, she just seemed like she didn't really care at all and was kinda lame rudely shutting down a few conversations. Oh well

[@romnesia7729]

Sounds like you don't love women

[@matsab7930]

@@ryohio4706 seems like the conservatives lost their fucking shit and left because they couldn't behave cordially. As many others have pointed out, the irony of a bunch of men explaining how women cannot control their emotions failing to control their emotions and rage-quitting is palpable.

[@gigey]

MY FEEEEED

[@TheAcademik]

When that one dude said "restore trust in the banks" did he mean what I think he means?

[@daveywood7138]

I use a female character name in most mmos because I like playing female characters. Not gunna say I understand what the experience of being a gamer girl is completely but I think I've had a fair share of a glimpse into it and tbh sometimes I can see why people go super extreme with hating men. The sad part is I believe 100% the majority of these interactions are not even an issue with someone looking down on the woman for being a woman I think they are just playing into it because it's this weird rebellion thing when we are young and everyone encourages everyone to be like that when there are no consequences. Not saying it's acceptable I just think it's not as simple as these people hate women. Idk just my thoughts I could be totally pyscho ig.

[@roarblast7332]

Oh boy. Nihilism. My favorite.

[@purth]

Where is Destiny? What happened to him?

[@lokkol8658]

Vacation

[@Green-tf8uw]

Vacation Andy back at it again, it's gonna be worse than 2019

[@netherzero2097]

What game is this?