USED Porsche 911 (997) - WHAT GOES WRONG & should you buy one?

[@yanis_s500]

Damn, those wheeels... How can you buy such an iconic car and then put such an uggly wheels???

[@francistaylor1822]

The wheels arent bad, the colour is though!

[@MarcusRizzo]

Yes, they are... ​@@francistaylor1822they would look great on a GTI. But this is a crime

[@johnphaceas7434]

money and taste are sometimes mutually exclusive

[@noodleninja3679]

Fair but... *Is it your car?* 🤔

[@francistaylor1822]

@@noodleninja3679 The owner of the car doesnt have to look at it when driving

[@P_FamilyJAR]

Those wheels should go into the “what goes wrong” section….

[@daweigo6851]

😅😅😅😅

[@roadsofjapan6009]

😂

[@lukeh2440]

Solid comment 😂

[@biafo4541]

😂😂😂

[@barbarusbloodshed6347]

COULD go wrong... one of those problems that can be avoided with proper care.

[@supaflask1275]

When the owner advertises the car for sale *blue wheels not included* "Well, thank F for that!"

[@Lan_gtg]

Don't buy one that looks like this one 😂

[@roadsofjapan6009]

😂

[@PuffinDragun69]

Each to their own I guess

[@darbyjames7998]

Fuck that is an absolute shitter. Those blue rims make it look like mid tier NPC matchup in Midnight Club LA.

[@dauwse]

It’s an old reference sir, but it checks out 😂

[@aaryeshg.6526]

Midnight Club still cancelled soz.... absolute favorites of all time. They did plan on adding a Gemballa tuned 997, mentioned in the game's files.

[@joebot2127]

My son specs all his cars in Asphalt 9 with these wheels. I took his tablet away for crimes against humanity.

[@kenrichards5699]

18 months ago I bought one of these (997.1 Carrera S) in the 6 speed and hard top. This video covers all the key points for anyone looking to do the same, so, nice work boys. I love mine and wouldn't swap it for the BMW or Nissan, it's of a completely different character. Approaching 20 years old and 100,000km, my 997 is still tight, fresh and feels quite modern. I love it's small size too. Tiny by comparison to modern cars. It feels substantial and high quality. The cup holders, while a beautiful piece of industrial design, somewhat impractical, so more form over substance there.

[@simonrichards3651]

I’ve owned 996 Turbo and 997 Turbo. Cool cars for sure but the cost of owning one now make them pretty hard to own. Now VW own Porsche servicing and parts have gone through the roof. Both of my cars required coolant hoses replaced at 70,000km. Seriously expensive but if you don’t then you’re up for an engine meltdown with NO warning. Brace yourself, set of front brakes, coolant hoses replaced and full service at 70,000km , just under $20,000. I’m pleased I’ve owned a few Porsches but no more for me. Cheers

[@homiefizzle5260]

20k!? Were they carbon ceramic brakes?

[@mikehertz6507]

If you paid $20k for that you're an idiot.

[@joeimbesi99]

Get it at a reasonable price. ( YOULL get yer money back) Always have at least 10000 saved for things goin wrong.Nothing better.

[@BigRick50]

Awe, I want a 997 Turbo.

[@williamii3108]

I have. 997.1 here in south Florida. I hardly drive it - 50k miles - our 2-door Wrangler is the daily. Tons of Bentleys, Ferraris, Aston’s, Rolls’, Gwagens, etc here in Palm Beach, but I have to say my 997 always gets second looks, even from Ferrari drivers. Lots of gas pump convos. This car punches far above its weight in respect. However - you would think that after refining this model for so many years, it would be a quality build. It’s all the little but expensive annoyances that get to you- disintegrating A/C channel flap foam, designed to save 1oz of weight but fail after warranty; the broken plastic retainers for the too-clever cup holders ; the melting console knobs and cheap plastic screen; clever door latches that fail - just all kinds of annoying crap that’s ridiculous to try to fix. My 997 looks really high-end from the outside, the leather seats, dash, headliner, etc are terrific - but after awhile all the little things, just opening the door even, feel cheap.

[@davethetaswegian]

Everyone has beaten me to the punch, but ugh those wheels.

[@richieduck67]

Did he get those wheels from Supercheap Auto

[@interceptor7905]

And much much more😂

[@jesus_built_my_hotrod]

Nah just the rattle can paint

[@patrickw7714]

05 997.1 Carrera S owner here in Aus, love the review, they are a fantastic car.. Bloody good looking and practical. I'm a dad with a 2 year old and a 4 year old.. This was my dream car from my teenage days and I managed to make it work.. I fit two booster seats in the back, a stroller in the frunk, there's still enough room for a few shopping bags.. SUVs suck, rebel by buying a 911 :P Maintenance wise, it's been pretty solid, I am very mechanical and these are an absolute breeze to work on for the most part. Granted I did obsess far too much over the fear mongering on rennlist over bore scoring but I scoped it when changing the plugs and it's in pretty good shape with over 170,000ks on the clock, uses well below the Porsche stated oil consumption figures.. And bloody hell don't stress about soot on the tail pipes, its a tail pipe! they get dirty! I picked the .1 over the .2 because you can get them in manual, 997.2 is near impossible to find in 6mt. Also if you live in an area with sh!t roads, you'll curse your council daily because being a 911, you feel the road, bumps and all.

[@kingkire1556]

"Just because you can afford to buy one, doesn't mean you can afford to own one" This phrase was invented because of Porche.

[@Landofsmiles999]

Adam, yourself and Jim are a great team, and both of you are an enjoyable and easy listen. Great show as usual. Ps, if those wheels were black, they'd set that car right off. IMO

[@ReDriven]

You’re too kind mate! Thank you 🙏

[@ddsgardening7437]

All my life I've wanted one I better get my act together 68 now😂

[@047thRonin]

Go for it, what better time than now?

[@johns997.1]

I highly recommend 👌

[@Thorold63]

Used to work at The Bend Motorsport Park, seen many Lambos, Ferraris and other exotics go home on the trailer regularly, rarely seen a Porsche fail, just saying.

[@Nickdoomofficial]

Most common problem with my 911 is it doesn't exist. I hate when that happens.

[@Mabeylater293]

😂

[@MrMairu555]

Those wheels.... IN THE BIN! Oh, wrong channel!

[@promethbastard]

Maybe they came out of the bin.

[@csjrogerson2377]

I totally agree. What is the point in buying one for driving in Australia? There are more traffic cops on the road than fleas on a dingoes back. I lived in Sydney for 2 yrs and got 3 speeding tickets and I was driving a Ford Laser ffs.

[@williamegler8771]

F-Ĺ-E-A-S

[@axiomic]

I agree, Sydney is the worst. I got three tickets and now with just 1 demerit pt left... lost 5 pts & $400 just for holding my phone in slow traffic at night trying to enter an address because the bluetooth wouldn't recognise the address I was saying. Time to move out of this god-forsaken tyrannical city. I can understand why the Europeans hate our roads here.

[@csjrogerson2377]

@@williamegler8771 My mistake. Fat fingers, small keyboard, typing too fast and failing to prove read b4 hitting 'send'. I hate spooling mistekes.

[@csjrogerson2377]

@@axiomic The roads are a pain in Sydney with 47 million no right turns, one ways, no entry etc, but the major issue is that it was never designed, it just sprawled. When they did try to design, it was too late, but they had a go, mate. Trouble was they were all pissed after a session down the pub and they made it worse. Having fucked up the city roads, the State police forces hid 10 million cops behind every bush from Melbourne to Brisbane and terrorised the motorists to earn revenue for the bludgers in the government

[@Bill-ki4zf]

@@csjrogerson2377 I Know what you mean. On a recent drive from Sydney to Brisbane on the Pacific Hwy, the speed limit suddenly, and inexplicably, changed from 110 km/h to 100 km/h for a few km. Sure enough, there was a speed camera. Then, just as inexplicably, back to 110 km/h limit again!!

[@ForgetfulFoot]

Current Adelaide 981 Cayman owner here. Also owned a few 987.2 Caymans in the past too. Good review. Love the 997 and have always wanted to own one. But I just didn't want to roll the dice with the older cars. Best to play it safe and drive a solid newer Cayman until I can afford a 997.2 or 991. The Cayman is likely just as good to drive anyway.

[@edstraker8451]

Jim is an absolute fountain of knowledge on all things mechanical. You guys are the perfect pairing. 👍

[@mrnicktoyou]

I have always wanted one but, I have now resigned myself to the fact that I'll never own a Porsche 911 in my life. The prices are just too far out of reach.

[@roadsofjapan6009]

Pricing in Japan is way cheaper , can’t work out why so many cars in Australia are so over priced it’s crazy. Hell you can pick up a Aston Martin Vantage say a 2008 for like 45k AUD here in an MT so that magic third pedal 😂

[@biafo4541]

Never say Never, might end up with a 911 as your retirement car 😂

[@maxmackinlay618]

Just get a cayenne for $10 000, just as fast, more practical, will impress the ladies, has the badge. Enjoy for a year or so then get rid of it.

[@jamesfrench7299]

Are they that cheap? Certainly not on fuel or problems they must have at that price.

[@mrnicktoyou]

@@maxmackinlay618 get an SUV instead of a low slung sports car? That's missing the point, lol

[@raidenz0]

Great video, as always. Thanks for putting up such quality content; this channel is a gem 😍 I own a 997 carrera S for 6 years now and it's a keeper. You've done your research, everything you've said in this video regarding issues and things to look at are true. Although I won’t say that borescoring is that marginal. A lot, and I mean A LOT of m96/m97 engine equipped cars have had their engine replaced, and most of the time it was due to borescoring. When I bought my 997, the engine had already blown at 60000km. Good news is that you can put iron sleeves in the cylinders which will reduce drastically / eliminate the borescoring issue (but it's expensive and usually done when you perform an engine rebuilt). There is other cylinder liners available such as Nickies cylinders from LN Engineering (expensive but even better than iron). Porsche club of America did a series on the borescoring issue, check out their youtube channel and website.

[@Kharr]

I live in Sydney, and the other day I saw a GT4RS pull out of the Porsche dealership. The man driving it out into peak hour traffic was the most scared I’ve seen someone in a loooong time lmao

[@exotica550]

Adam, I've owned driven & Raced,(Yes I Raced, Porsche Cup and Nurburgring 24 hour Porsche 911) Porsches since my first 2.2 911 from Hamiltons in Chapel St in 1972. I now have a 2008 997 3.8 C2S,Manual, I bought to use as my Drive car in Europe in 2014,leaving it at Eberbach,in storage with our Race Team in the off seasons. I brought it back to Australia in 2020. It now has 93,000 kms,and has never let me down. PCGC did a few maintenance items c $4,000, but that's about it.I had a 997 Turbo before this and frankly, I prefer the C2S,as more usable. Size of the car,accomodation, Boot Space,Fuel Economy (c.33 MPG on a Trip) Balance,Performance,Brakes,Handling, All Leather Trim,all excellent,with 992 20" Alloys. A 997 over a Turbo? Yes,simply because in Australia,you'd be doing 200 kph in the Turbo before any feel arrived.I've driven later 992.1 and 992.2 911's,as well. Too fussy and way too many electronics.

[@Mafiacat2023]

I had a 2008 Carrera S for 5 years at the same time as my 1999 Carrera. Much better looking but I preferred the 1999. I still have the 1999.

[@reaperxi-0382]

Can you do a 2015-2017 F-type V6 S or V8 R next? Similar calibre of iconic car and something I’ve always loved to see more of 🙌🏽

[@charliekuhn1544]

I got into my 08 turbo eight years ago when pricing for a manual coupe was lowest😊 I still have mine and absolutely love driving it

[@rfc3133]

Tried it, club head speed dropped from 88-90 to 78-84 and I started slicing like crazy. Went back to my own lousy technique and back to 88-90, but at least I am on the fairway most of the time. I'll have to try something different....😢

[@chrisbutler2636]

Thinking of swapping my f80 m3 for a 997 Carrera s what's your thoughts???

[@samartz]

Not my forever car but definitely gotta own a 911 for some stage in my life!

[@thththththththththt]

Dream car, thanks for making a video on it. Perfect choice for a video.

[@TokiMadeira]

The variety of textures in the kislux pack is impressive. From smooth leather to textured suede, there's something for everyone.

[@lukegilbert7985]

A hell of a lot of 997 for sale I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole, grey imports, bad mods, faked service history. Buy the seller is a critical aspect of buying a used 911. No problem buying one at the lower end and do the deferred work yourself or paying to have it done, ugly duckling stock cars can be a great base for something great. Importing parts and having lots of patience is worth while too. On my 911 I have basically added half a cars worth of GT3 parts but at used money. One last thing, unless u desperately want a convertible, just wait and get a coupe. The 996/997 roof set up sux, very few people left working on Porsches can actually fix it when it breaks and it's just not a good thing. If u must have a convertible get an early manual roof car or a 981 Boxter/718 Boxter. I'm car obsessed, my whole life is cars and dreaming about what to get next, I have 3 Porsches now. I don't have endless resources, I concentrate on cost of ownership, bought a Panamera and a Cayenne GTS used with long long Porsche warranty and have retained a lot of value. Anyone can buy a Porsche.. If you buy a really decent 911 it's literally a rolling investment, cash in 911 form. You only live once..

[@harrypsaunders]

Those wheels... my eyes! 😳

[@hoggravyandchitlins]

Something about having back seats, somehow a 4 seater brings insurance prices down vs. a 2 seater, before I bought my 911 I had been considering a corvette but the insurance rates were deal breakers, insurance for a 911 was far more reasonable.

[@davidt1055]

The 997.1 never had a reverse camera as an option to begin with. The sport chrono small hands also pop off in the Aussie sun. If you bang the dash in front of it you will usually see the little hand bounce around inside of if.

[@fstap]

The only 911 I've been behind the wheel of is my 991.1 C2S, but I would love to compare it to a 997 C2S someday

[@MrJFunk]

Great detail review!!! Love these 997’s

[@jermainerobinson7098]

Love this review l was thinking of buying one and l did it have any anyone to answer all my questions where you guys have 👍🏽👏🏽would you have a Porsche 997? Carrera S. Or a BMW M2 or M3 that’s what I’m toying with and not sure what to get the Carrera S has lost it’s money already and is a classic but the BMW M cars still have to lose money but they are newer any advice would be appreciated great review from the uk 🇬🇧 👏🏽👏🏽🤜🏽

[@HNSKP]

Just my 2 cents. I went from a 997.2 gts to a g80 m3. It was a huge downgrade in feel and sound and a modest step up in performance (not that noticeable on the street). In hindsight I should have kept the 997 longer.

[@pauldub77]

Those wheels wreck the car and can't be ignored...you can't buy clsss. Awesome review as always though,, thanks Adam & Jim!

[@Rockbottomsurf]

Most mothers seem to prefer to take the kids to school in a Cayenne.

[@kidoctane]

Sad but true........even sadder is the Dads thinking that they have a sports car

[@maximuswong3092]

You know what they say bruv....some mothers do have 'em

[@biafo4541]

😂 the Porsche badged VW need to exist so Porsche can continue making 911/boxter/caymen n/a gems with manual gearboxes.

[@Dickusification]

Yummy mummies 😅

[@Bill-ki4zf]

Yes. Well you need over 2000kg of SUV to carry their school bags in don't you.

[@davidcoe1994]

I have 13 cars in Melbourne if you ever want to check any of them, thanks for all your videos

[@darylwizzard5832]

First of all, the steering wheel is on the wrong side of the car, and it doesn't even have mudflaps

[@rubenramos-wp4nw]

Cheapest GT2RS in switzerlamd is one from 2010 it has 72k Km and still costs 220k CHF

[@rubenramos-wp4nw]

There is also the option of going for the same typenof car but it only having 4000Km which would also just be 500k…

[@Electronica27]

19:00 I'm worried 997 are going to absolutely catapult in price in the coming years because of this exact reason. 992.2 owners are constantly complaining about how cushiony their expensive shiny new porsches are because they make them too soft and the electric throttle and steering is just not tuned well at all despite them being $200k+ cars.

[@johngordon9387]

That elongated recess abutting hte passenger door sill is for the Porsche mini-umbrella

[@9up25]

Love your work! Can you review bmw x1 2020?

[@TheEdshemery]

The background for this bit illustrates just how serious Australia is about their curbs.

[@CulinaryCruiseClub]

My cousin picks up his brand new, last of the petrol engine, new turbo s in a few weeks, hope to cruise for an evening on the GC with him when it comes to brisbane.

[@ynots0625]

Sorry to hear😢

[@jesus_built_my_hotrod]

Dont think ive ever heard you speak so fast. Very enthusiastic 😁

[@TwistedDonners]

For some reason the 911s in almost all variations look like a frog that's had bad botox done 😂. The 997 gets the same fuel consumption as last week's 350Z but with a bigger engine so either the 350Z has shit fuel efficiency, the 997 has good fuel efficiency or something else is at play that I can't think of at the moment. Bar the odd outlier these seem like pretty stout units if they maintenance is kept up to them. Good work guys as always and look forward to Sunday's video as per usual 👍.

[@ReDriven]

Thanks so much mate!

[@CustomcrowdMitroc]

987 an 981 are the greatest sports cars ever made hands down, less power but way better handling due to being mid engine not rear engine like the 911

[@backnunAndy]

I have chosen used porsche model if you like a light sport car. Compare to similar priced more recent sport cars, porsche models are extremely lighter! Don't just compare the HP / torque numbers!

[@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310]

Haha no love for the wheels in the comment section. Wheels are killer, colour is shit.

[@naumanzakir8005]

You should do comparision video between mx5 and 997

[@jamesfrench7299]

Can your tow a trailer with one as I want to carry stuff.

[@Gozar111]

I have concerns about the wheels on this particular car. Fairly large concerns…

[@BIGREV-b6k]

The only thing that matters about the look of those wheels is that the guy who owns it likes them...

[@tamreg04]

Ive just gone thru the process of buying a car in this range. Ive wanted a 911 and looked at the 997, considered a m2, drove a bmw supra and ended up getting a F-Type Jag (v6 supercharged) and so happy i choose that over the Porsche and the supra as a road car. Plus it was on average $15,000 cheaper than the others too.

[@brettpenprase]

@Redriven, don’t dare do a review of a current GT3RS or GT4RS with the indigo blue colour package with the danger of the blow back on wheel colour . Too funny.

[@richiesworld1]

I'm surprised at the amount of love those wheels are getting. You guys are really sweet 😘

[@Ageratos01]

Need for speed underground called... They want their wheels back.. Great video by the way.

[@johnbambo9036]

For around $50k more get a GTS Boxster 2024 6 speed manual. It's better cause the engine is in the middle.

[@markwaters7215]

I’ve had my 997.2 for nearly 4 years and the only problems I’ve had is that other careless drivers keep bashing into it , scraping the paintwork , I don’t know if I’m just unlucky but I’m so sick of paying out thousands of £ to fix all these damages. It must of cost me between £3-£4000 just over the last year alone. It was my dream car but I just can’t warrant the cost of repairs any more. I treat it like a newborn yet everybody else just bashes it and drives off when it’s parked. Totally sick of it. Next car I’m going to be will be a beaten up heap and I’ll drive it like every other moron .

[@A861967]

Gosh a 911 is out of reach … even a 200k km one is just unobtainable and the 2nd hand parts are a killer.

[@joeimbesi99]

Yeah its for people with some money spare or Unmarried no kids.Ha.

[@RivaStyx]

The ultimate Yasss car

[@elisabethsousa2041]

Please review the mazda 2 skyactiv kodo Gen

[@schrenk-d]

I have a soft spot, and rather crudely a semi hard thing for porches... Just epic engineering.

[@lindsaywebb1904]

I find the blue, grey with red accent quite smart

[@smacfe]

The 997 Gen 2 was a MASSIVE improvement over the Gen 1 997's. Made in a completely new factory built with significant global assistance from quality engineering giants , most notably Toyota, the increase in the quality of the cars is staggering. Porsche has forever eliminated any quality criticisms it once had. As an enjoyable daily driver sports car, this series is unbeatable, however, even in S trim, could use a bit more power to make it a hard core sports car. I had an extremely early 997 Gen 2 911 S Cabriolet, one of the first off the new line, and finally gave in to the senior Toyota executive that had pestered me for years to sell him this particular car which he had apparently seen on the line while he was advising Porsche.

[@imagenius9574]

I prefer the old thumb nail.

[@edjohn4590]

997 turbo my dream car!

[@mikeg8698]

that's one way to avoid the hassle of locking wheel nuts

[@mj-lc9db]

Porches are subarus which are only driven on the weekends. Never seen one daily a Porche 911. except the Macan and the Cayene which are just VWs

[@johns997.1]

Depends on where you're from. 911's are very common in Toronto and many are driven through the winter here.

[@ElCid_86]

Front grilles will protect the AC condensers/radiators.

[@dipinroad3641]

"...used all the time". Really? 98000k and almost 20 years old. Up and down the driveway everyday, maybe?

[@renn27]

Love the 997. When the M97 fails we replace it with an Audi motor!

[@ChristopherNeilF]

Decent car being reviewed for a change, Shame about the blue wheels 😊 If you come to Perth, you can review my car.

[@ivanb3303]

Hey Jim is that a RS2000 on the ramp

[@rotarpowered6665]

bro what happened?

[@jimmyp1433]

Love the German Jerry, but poor Brush Turkey!

[@chao5s]

Why am I watching this as I can't afford one 😂 Actually I've seen this car in upper north shore suburbs a Co ple of times, like many, I don't agree with the choice of the wheels/rims 😅 Honestly I didn't expect the mention of OG F87 M2 🎉

[@krisbeck4368]

Adam's a huge fan of the F87 M2, he recently recommended it in the Audi RS5 video as well. I'm a biased owner but they really are the best sports car at that price point.

[@PapaSeBakkie]

Those wheels are horrific…I understand the “eye of the beholder” but people who do shit like this should be jailed…

[@DoubleOSeven007]

PCCM+ matches the interior perfectly, a nice upgrade. Personally, I never turn the thing on & rarely look down there, I'm too focused on holding onto the damn thing!

[@garageblitztv3215]

So glad John Cadogan of AutoExpert recommended this channel … love your work!

[@partyatmyfuneral1]

The irony of those wheels is there are people out there who think blue Rays wheels are the best of the best 😂

[@rodneycook3674]

Well how many people report catastrophic issues when they happen at higher miles and not just total the car? I bet a lot go unreported.

[@jim_jam_dseries]

What is rocket surgery by the way? 😂 I thought it was rocket science but clearly I've been missing out. 😆Loved your video once again ReDriven! EK Civic down the track (pun intended) please 👍

[@petercheems8118]

It's the same as "does the pope s#!t in the woods".

[@richardggeorge]

Just get a m235i. 6 cylinder with boost for a 1/4 of the price and more practical

[@eezee187]

Wow! 170000 bucks!?!?! Is that all?? Might grab 2 or 3 of 'em! 😂

[@flat6croc]

Sorry, but bore scoring on the 997.1 is not remotely overstated. It's epidemic, probably at least 30% of .1 Carrera and Carrera S have failed with bore scoring at this point and quite possibly significantly more. There are countless cars out there with engine replacements under warranty, full engine rebuilds and so on. There are yet more that have had a cheap fix with one or two steel liners that current owners won't even know about. So, yes, IMS is generally overstated. Bore scoring on the 997.1 is not.

[@kebabaluba]

I`d put grocery bags in those back seats like i normaly do, i don`t know why i practice that though...

[@JeremyJohnson-c7u]

All I here is the 911 is a wonderful car for a family of 4

[@williamegler8771]

Should the owner actually be driving that because they obviously have a serious visual impairment if they think those hideous wheels look good!

[@biafo4541]

😂😂

[@Gozar111]

Slots at the doors are for Porsche umbrellas.

[@jonathanmabika2058]

U can find them from 50k in Europe

[@Fozzymandeus]

You say the 991 is a “new larger body” but it really isn’t bigger.

[@aerojohnw]

“It’s like the very best MX5”? WTF? 😳🙄🤣

[@2810Mad]

8 year old me would really like these wheels in need for speed