2022 Toyota Tundra TRD Crew Cab Long Bed Limited: Regular Car Reviews

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[@pbase36]

The Official Truck of "Shit, I forgot to measure the garage."

[@_RiseAgainst]

I'm proud to say i measured and found out I can fit a crew cab short bed F-150 in my garage with 1in to spare on both ends. So naturally I did the smart thing and bought an old S-10 and squeeze it in the tiny 3rd car garage. I need it once a month tops.

[@Meekmillan]

@@_RiseAgainst those are such cool little trucks. Had one in high school but didn’t like it at the time cause I was a snobby little shit that couldn’t appreciate things. I wanna get another now though, something about those mini trucks

[@_RiseAgainst]

@@Meekmillan the one I bought was my truck from high school! I still had the Vin number and found it about 60miles away in a tiny town.

[@russellzauner]

The Official Truck of "Honey, you know how you wanted to remodel; I'm building a house around this truck."

[@UmmYeahOk]

@@_RiseAgainst my father in law got an F250 crew cab long bed since he goes camping a lot and needs to haul a massive camper… …that truck FITS in the garage! I absolutely cannot believe it. He has to fold the mirrors in first, and has about three inches all the way around, but it fits!!! Every time I’m over I stare at it, and take pics because there’s no freaking way! One time I even watched him pull in because I assumed an entire production was involved in aiding him. Nope! I know they say you won’t believe it until you see it, but I saw it and I still don’t believe it!

[@SM-bk4ye]

Single. Owns a crew cab. Alright partner

[@MoGumboFukUTubeForChngngMyName]

I think that’s because women his age that he dates all have a couple of little darling ones that need a place to sit.

[@digitalrailroader]

The problem is that the manufacturers have hyper focused on crew cabs because that’s what makes them the most profit (try to find something that’s middle of the road; you won’t find anything that isn’t an upper or top of the line trim on a dealership lot); I can guarantee you that if Toyota DOES make a regular cab truck, it’s a stripped out base model that’s only available to fleet buyers.

[@SM-bk4ye]

@@digitalrailroader I'd rather have a stripped single cab fleet vehicle than more room for people than I'll ever have in my vehicle at once. I don't blame the consumer here, you're right in that they don't make single cab anymore that often I just wish they did still

[@tobyvision]

@@digitalrailroader Trucks since about 2012 are mostly 1990-2008 SUVs with a bed on the back to skirt legislation.

[@rubberwoody]

you cant buy one of these in single cab and have any luxuries

[@jimcameron9848]

The best part is KZbin's commercial in the farting chorus.

[@ericrobison9977]

As a man who got weighed and had his junk touched by Barry at the MEPS in Mechanicsburg, I feel personally attacked for feeling like I deserve a 2022 Tundra TRD.

[@TheYourfaceable]

Mr. Regular, been watching your videos for a few years now, if you get the chance to, I really think you should review the 3G Mitsubishi Eclipse. Owned and drove that car for 7+ years before I unfortunately totaled it from sliding out in the rain. But I was just watching your Type-R Integra video and it reminded me of the Eclipse with your comment about how that engine was just MEANT to be heard. Not only that but the Eclipse embodies the same idea of the Miata, it ain't fast, but damn is it fun to drive. I genuinely think you'd enjoy that car and a clean 3rd Gen Eclipse isn't actually that hard to find. Whenever I sat down in that car I just clicked. The connection between man and machine was complete. I needed nothing else. You can have your 600 horsepower and your AWD and your DOHC. But give me a simple FWD 2.4L I4 and a solid 5 speed with good torque response and good handling, and man that car was fun as hell. Plus slap some nice exhaust on it and it sounds WONDERFUL. In the same vein of the Integra video, cold (hot) air intake? Yeah. Had to take it off every summer because the engine just turned into an absolute slug. Even with heat wrap and everything, the stock intake was miles better than the aftermarket when temps rose above like 75 degrees. Anyways, love your stuff, if you get the chance to do the 3rd gen Eclipse, absolutely do, it's such a unique, quirky little car, I think you'll love it. And shit on it of course.

[@mustangs-marketing]

@12:56, I can't remember the last time I saw a Chevy Lumina

[@smorgasbord9940]

So glad Toyota finally made their own aircraft carrier

[@djsonicc]

as a bonus, you can also mount anti-aircraft gun on it

[@jacobrzeszewski6527]

And like a carrier it gets irradiated when it gets shot at.

[@mr.bobcyndaquil4214]

​@@djsonicc Chad technical moment

[@MrOiram46]

If they make a dually version, then it’s going to be a supercarrier

[@kevincockburn7805]

Barry is a legend. Barry to a person from the UK, makes me feel safe that the USA is number 1. Barry is Merica. Barry proves that first strike supremacy is a valid war doctrine.

[@dopey473]

I mean Barry (57) is a typical nickname for old fat bald blokes in Britain too. It seems every country has a Barry (57).

[@kevinbarry71]

And now the new Sequoia is available, which is the SUV based on this very platform

[@KMFDM_Kid2000]

At least you don't have to smell Barry.

[@reserva120]

@@KMFDM_Kid2000 The smell of Hard work make you shit your pants ,you little coward..

[@james_chatman]

I first read that as "first white supremacy" and it still kinda made sense. lol smh

[@reelreeler8778]

I miss the days when you could reach into the bed of a pickup truck to get something, without needing a step ladder.

[@sixty2612]

Just be taller

[@lordapophis7438]

@@sixty2612 classic humor!

[@reelreeler8778]

@@cowmath77 ....yep....had a '95 Ranger long-bed and it was perfect for me.

[@MichelleSleeper]

@@reelreeler8778 Currently daily drive a '94 Ranger and I'll never replace it. I'll buy a new transmission (again) and a new motor before I'd buy a new truck. Modern trucks are way too big and way too tall.

[@zephead843]

I have to set up scaffolding to wash the roof of my Silverado 2500HD 4WD.

[@latituderider]

Good for Ben. I still think he's insane for buying a truck in this market

[@aaronvanzile3824]

Lots of people have an extra 20k they can't figure out anything else to do with. I am not one of those people lol but there are plenty of them.

[@seththomas9105]

@@aaronvanzile3824 I'll take any extra's people have sitting around. I don't need a new car but the house needs paid down....

[@BeepasGarage]

There are some dealers that won't sell above MSRP. Few and far between though.

[@robertbaratheon9289]

There's really no "good" time to buy a new car. No matter what armchair experts say the market fluctuates so much that getting a good deal is a myth. You either buy when you can or don't. The prices may drop in 6 months, but who can say.

[@russellzauner]

well, a GAS truck, anyway.

[@GixxerRider1991]

The V8 does make less power but it is much more reliable in the long run.

[@jackroutledge352]

Yeah, but face it, absolutely everyone buying this is getting it on a 3 year lease. So longevity is the third owner's problem.

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

@@jackroutledge352 the problem is that most people who own a Toyota, don't own one from the factory. They buy it used. The used market is going to be a garbage. Most of the auto market will be left high and dry because of idiots paying 50k+ for a truck that's only reliable for the first owner unless they sell it in 6 months

[@jackmcneil6569]

It's all planned obsolescence and morons that get excited for every new iPhone just eat it up

[@nicholasmapes]

Especially if you're going to use it primarily for towing.

[@pumpkin1escobar]

@@TheAnnoyingBossThis doesn't make sense lmao. More people have to buy toyotas new if most are getting them used.

[@vitaming582]

Automakers : There's a chip shortage that is making it very difficult for the whole industry to meet demands. Also Automakers : Let's simulate a V8 sound in the cars with smaller motors. Everyone will love that.

[@Scriptedviolince]

IIRC Japanese automakers stored up a massive supply of the computer chips beforehand due to the lessons learned from the 2011 earthquake while all other automakers kept pushing the Just In Time production paradigm to near breaking. So when breaking time came, the west broke hard while Japanese automakers were working just fine.

[@yukonstriker1703]

@@Scriptedviolince Wrong. Even Toyota ran out of their stockpile of chips. The whole chip shortage is a scam anyways. Agenda 21, Agenda 2030. WEF. You have no idea what's coming... Best wake up, and fast!

[@hankhill5622]

I long for the day when you could get trucks under sticker again…

[@goingindieEN]

Same. I don’t think recession is going to change that, but I hope I’m wrong.

[@flusteredweasel7483]

Same, Hank

[@dopey473]

Yeeep

[@kefkafloyd]

Hank Hill longs for the days he could buy trucks for his special deal-sticker price, and not a penny more.

[@_RiseAgainst]

Hank hill actually always paid sticker price. There was a whole episode about it.

[@pdegnan4852]

I can't fault Toyota for making this vehicle. It seems like a total middle finger after the 2nd Gen Tundra with a powertrain that gave multiple people over 1 million miles of service life, but... that reliability gave Toyota jack-dick for sales and people crying about poor fuel economy. And that's the not-really-a-secret to a reliable truck powertrain - A detuned V8 with a conservative transmission setup. What really did Toyota in on the MPG with the 2nd Gen was their choice to rock the 4.10 gears from the factory. While that rear end is a great mechanical solution for towing bigger numbers that didn't involve an 8 or 10-speed trans, it also gives you 13MPG around town. So, with no other powertrain option, people that used the 2nd Gen for daily drivers were getting killed at the pump. But yea - What spoke volumes to me lately is : The folks at Ferd literally designed a clean-sheet-new V8 (7.3L gasser) for the 2020+ Super Duties that's push rod and port fuel injected... IN 2020... think about that for a minute. That's not "OK Boomer" stuff, that's the company recognizing that's kind of how you get a reliable V8. And right now, they're selling every single one of them they can make even with the GM/Ford 10-speed with all it's troubles. But, that's the difference between somebody buying a truck to actually use it as a truck, and somebody buying one to use a passenger vehicle. So - Here you go ya goofs : Big screens and fancy doo-dads, Toyota's giving you what you wanted. And you know who ultimately loses? The second-hand market when the powertrain's fucked six ways to Sunday in 10+ years, and half the electronics are dead and also NLA from the suppliers.

[@quillmaurer6563]

Keep in mind that they're not trying to sell the best truck, the most durable truck, or the most reliable truck. They're trying to sell the most trucks. They design what they think the most people will buy right now - and likewise they don't care if they last more than 10 years, that's used car buyers 10 years from now's problem. In fact they'll sell more trucks if they break down in 10 years. I could see these things deterring people who want an actual work truck, those who want it to be durable and last forever, don't care about the gadgets, but I don't think Toyota is going for that market anyway - I've heard these trucks are too expensive for that, those customers go for base-model Fords, Chevys, or Dodges. Toyota trucks are more "lifestyle" trucks, aimed at people who daily them and use them for camping, toy-hauling, and so on, not actual work.

[@deusexaethera]

"That's not 'OK Boomer' stuff, that's the company recognizing that's how you get a reliable V8." Demanding a reliable V8 in 2022, in a vehicle that isn't _constantly_ being used for towing, _is_ "OK Boomer" stuff. Nobody else needs one. Smaller engines have completely supplanted V8s for every other purpose besides towing nowadays.

[@quillmaurer6563]

@@deusexaethera The thing is probably many people who buy trucks are deluding themselves to think they'll constantly be towing or hauling heavy loads with these things. Why they need a V8, or a big truck in the first place, instead of a truck with a turbo V6, or, perhaps, a _car_. Something this clearly is designed to have the comfort and convenience of. Especially given the price, the buyers of these will be white-collar city folks playing on weekends and cosplaying as blue-collar workers such as farmers or contractors. Most people who buy these really use them to do the job of a sedan or crossover 90+% of the time. I doubt anyone who wants to do real truck work a large portion of the time would spend so much money on a truck this expensive and fancy, they'd want a basic, reasonably-priced utilitarian machine. Maybe that's what Ford is building with their V8 trucks the OP described, perhaps they'll have reasonably-priced lower-options models that are intended to actually be used as a truck rather than a luxury SUV with a bed stuck on the back, but even that I'm skeptical of these days. The only intersection of people who actually need a heavy-hauling V8 and the fancy luxury expensive stuff might be some of these white-collar people with toys they like to drag around. Big camper trailers, "toy haulers," or boats. Or these wannabe-cowboy horse aficionados. All of whom tell themselves and others they'll be towing a much larger portion of the time than they actually will. That's such a small sliver of the market, the tiny overlap of the venn diagram of "People who want and can afford all this luxury and price" and "people who actually do tow a lot" it's not worthy for Toyota to make them for. And upper trims of the aforementioned Ford (which would be more marketed towards the wannabe-cowboys and trust fund rednecks anyway) would cover that option pretty well.

[@bwofficial1776]

@@deusexaethera Sure, few people need one, but it's not your money. Let people enjoy things. I'd totally buy a V8 Ram if I could afford it. V8 noises but more space than a Mustang. If boomers like reliable engines, does that mean zoomers like unreliable engines? I want my engine to be reliable, I'm in my 20s but I guess that makes me a boomer.

[@717UT]

@@quillmaurer6563 You are 100% right in my book. I especially like "white-collar city folks cosplaying as blue-collar workers" and especially "wannabe cowboys and trust fund rednecks". You hit that one out of the park my friend.

[@atn_holdings]

you know what doesn't fit a standard 8x4 drywall sheet? this truck. you know what does? Dodge Grand Caravan

[@quillmaurer6563]

The impression I get is that trucks, honestly, are for image, asserting one's manliness, while actual real work is done by vans. One of my buddies really wants an old Chevy Astro 4x4, which he thinks of as the most utilitarian vehicle ever made. He envisions taking the seats out, putting his motorcycles in the back, and camping in it. As good off road as any truck, can carry tons of crap, low loading height makes it a lot easier to get stuff (especially motorcycles) in, and it's enclosed thus much more secure.

[@maxwellbutler4184]

​@@quillmaurer6563 It's true. I do more work in one week with my naturally-aspirated V6 Transit 250 than most do with their twelve-thousand-horsepower Dodge Cummins 1776 Long Dick January 6th Edition mall crawlers in a year. And I'm talking revenue-earning work---towing fancy boats and RVs doesn't count. Here in the US, we romanticize and caricaturize and use for political gain the idea of the Working Man, while looking down our nose at the actual working man.

[@quillmaurer6563]

@@maxwellbutler4184 Your description of the stereotypical Ram is so perfect - I could totally see them making a "January 6th edition" alongside the 1776 whatever they already have. I've thought a lot about what trucks really mean in our culture, they're not so much utilitarian machines but a caricature of masculinity, especially in the American views of such. Big, tough, dominating, at least in theory hard-working. The vehicle of "real hard-working men." Clinging to an idea of manhood that is becoming more and more outdated, with the traditional roles of men in our culture becoming obsolete many men don't really know what they're supposed to be, how to be a "man" when they work in an air-conditioned office and in such duties never manually carry objects larger or heavier than a 5lb pack of copy-paper. Clinging to old ideas of manhood, when more work was manual labor which required tough "hard-working" men - and such jobs could support a family. So they seek an image of this outdated form of manhood, to project that despite all this they are still a "man" in this way, which automakers will gladly provide (for $70k) in the form of a truck. But said truck has to also have the convenience, comfort, kid-carrying capacity, and practicality of the car they actually need.

[@maxwellbutler4184]

@@quillmaurer6563 Exactly. Masculinity, co-opted and prepackaged and sold to you for no money down and 0% interest! Why do real work when you can just appear to?

[@OhPhuckYou]

@@maxwellbutler4184 I'm waiting for Toyota to come out with a 'May 29th Anniversary Edition' Prius.

[@ATable4You]

"it has a cigarette port, perfect for your radar detector" Based Ben.

[@stevecooper7883]

All it needs is license plate covers lol

[@zephead843]

Lexus' silky smooth 5.0 V8 would have been a better choice here. Smaller than Toyota's crazy thirsty 5.7 they used before, and you still get to tell your pals at the local watering hole, "Yeah it's got a V8." (9:55) OMG, is the first gen Tundra is smaller than today's Tacoma?

[@quillmaurer6563]

This is comparing first-gen Tundra vs. current Tundra, not Tacoma. But I wouldn't be surprised if new Tacomas are getting as big as the old Tundras, we've seen this size bloat on almost everything such that new vehicles of a given model are bigger than the next size up in the manufacturer's range was 20 years ago. This is one of my biggest complaints about vehicle trends - everything always getting bigger. Using technological advancement to get the same performance and MPG out of a bigger vehicle rather than better from the same size. If smaller cars were good 40 years ago, why not now?

[@CrazyWeeMonkey]

Lexuses 5.0 V8 wouldn't be suited for a truck due to it making most of it's torque much higher in the rev-range. The TTV6 makes more torque across the rev range from the turbos which is super important for a truck, and should (at least in theory) use less fuel in low-load situations from the smaller 3.4L engine displacement and fewer cylinders = fewer pumping losses.

[@Kastro876]

Nah.... you need low end torque for something this heavy.... also to tow.... the 5.0 Lexus v8 is more mid to high end torque

[@andybub45]

I do wish the 5.0 was at least optional. I hopeful that they put it in the next gen GX.

[@jeffrobodine8579]

@@quillmaurer6563 what's next, Biuick bringing back a bigger high tech rear wheel drive V8 powered Roadmaster?

[@quadruple_negative]

I'm with you with the overly high engine cowl. I have a 2016 Hilux for work and the end of the bonnet is the same level as the bottom of the windscreen. This is fine when you are going down the road but very difficult to see out of when you are maneuvering at low speed. I would set the seat higher but that makes it uncomfortable for the other 90% of driving and I don't have 8 cameras to help with visibility.

[@MoGumboFukUTubeForChngngMyName]

I had a 1972 Hilux, no vision problems.

[@TBustah]

@@MoGumboFukUTubeForChngngMyName That’s because older Hiluxes are a fraction of the size of the current one and didn’t suffer from the over-styling that so many modern vehicles do. There seems to be this misconception in North America that the Toyota pickup that most of the rest of the world gets is significantly smaller than the Tacoma, but it really isn’t. It’s within a couple of inches in both overall length and width. The wheelbase is noticeably shorter, meaning the interior is a bit smaller, but it has longer overhangs and still has far more in common with the Tacoma than the Hiluxes of old.

[@james_chatman]

It's a recipe for running over the neighbors kid. Might as well put a camera in the grille on all of them.

[@initialyeet3951]

This is what’s dumb about modern trucks. They not only are huge, but their styling tries to look “buff” and “manly” which makes them look and feel like Barry sounds.

[@markmiller3279]

@@TBustah Yup. I spent a week last year being driven around the Marquesas Islands in Hiluxes and there was plenty of room in the back seat for adults. They're pretty much the only thing people there drive. I wish the Tacoma was the same as the Hilux is a pretty great little truck.

[@jonrolfson1686]

My Dad’s 1960 GMC 305 cubic inch V-6 pickup with ‘four on the floor’ was my first post drivers-ed driving experience. Low end torque was ample, and the truck was not over tall: At sixteen or seventeen years old, and only five and a half feet tall, I could toss hay bales into the bed over the side of the truck (I can’t even see over the sides of current ‘full-size’ pick-ups). The down-side was that a couple of the high-school girls who had agreed to go out with me changed their minds when I showed up with the GMC.

[@Dankcatvacs]

@@floydblandston108 radio where?!

[@james_chatman]

I feel you Bro. Trucks are a simulacrum of utility now.

[@jonrolfson1686]

@@floydblandston108 If recalled correctly, that particular GMC’s traveling sound was a sort of pervasive low hum that must have combined engine and tire noise. One datable memory occurred while riding home in that truck (dad was driving) after a central Utah hunting trip in late October of 1964: Catching up on the news after a few days in the mountains, we heard the radio news report that former U.S. President Herbert Hoover had died at 90 years of age.

[@bobbyb.1743]

Still have my g-father’s ‘63, 3/4t GMC 4x4 w/ 4 on-the-floor and that glorious 305 V6. All original it’s certainly not a mileage king, or quick to accelerate, but still so smooth. One thing that has changed - girls dig ‘em now, it’s the cool-factor of an old truck!!😂

[@jonrolfson1686]

@@bobbyb.1743 I am properly envious. You’re a lucky man to be able to keep that truck going; Good on you.

[@Coryindahouse81]

Tfw you have just enough for a tacoma, but the dealer says "Here's your chance to be a BIGSHOT"

[@patrickwinecoff91]

As someone who wants a V8 in my truck, I think a happy medium for old fashioned American buyers would be an inline 6. I would imagine that similar power and efficiency could be achieved as the V6 and the inline 6 is also a staple of classic American trucks. Also, congrats Barry on the truck!

[@vincedibona4687]

I think a small-displacement V8 (4.0-4.4 liter) with the _option_ for turbos is the way to go. IMHO

[@MitchJohnson0110]

I agree. The only issue is how long I6 engines are. Longer than a V8 in most cases so its hard to jam one in the engine bay of a modern truck with all the emissions stuff and electronics in there. GM managed it though with the new Baby Duramax. They did it by having a small displacement I6 at 3.0 litres. Makes more torque than the V6 diesel options from Derge and Furd tho

[@patrickwinecoff91]

@@MitchJohnson0110 yeah I love a diesel inline 6. I had a 2002 Dodge Ram Cummins and the engine was great but the rest of the truck felt pretty cheap compared to my parents 2003 suburban

[@deusexaethera]

Inline 6s are too long. Jeep Wranglers have to push the front seats behind the middle of the chassis to fit an Inline 6. That's not practical for a vehicle that's already really long, like a crew-cab pickup truck.

[@KevinSmith-qi5yn]

Ram should be getting a Turbo inline 6 soon. The engine bays of a modern full size are massive. An inline 6 should fit just fine over a 5.7L V8.

[@rslover65]

Official car of "I've got a 10,000lb towing capacity" Yeah, what do you pull? "Well, nothing" "But its got a locker" Have your been off road? "Well, no" Yeah..... You spent 70k to do what a civic could do.

[@quillmaurer6563]

I think of this a lot, people solo-dailying their huge pickups that obviously have never been off road. They say they need it to haul stuff, which maybe they do a couple times a year. So much vehicle to haul one, maybe sometimes two, people around, plus groceries once a week. I've gone the other way, I found my classic Beetle (tiny compared to anything on the road these days) to be larger than I needed most of the time, so now most of my travel is on my (tiny) motorcycle.

[@MrDroid0518]

I get your point however everyone including you purchase and enjoy more than we need

[@Strike86]

Exactly. I don't know what Ben does, maybe he genuinely needs it - but studies prove that the overwhelming majority of people who own vehicles like this don't actually need one, they just need their ego stroked.

[@MrDroid0518]

@@Strike86 agreed like many other good things I suppose people can have a healthy or unhealthy relationship with it. I have plenty I don't need but greatly appreciate with out the need for it to complete me.

[@Rapscallion2009]

Well. Until people stop looking at conspicuous consumption and thinking "I wish I had that" and instead think "what a self-centred jerk!" these things will continue. Or until fuel costs price them off the road (as they did in the late 70's)

[@warrenb8228]

My grandfathers 03 Tundra (V8) went for 765,000 miles before someone crashed into him. I don’t think these turbos would go that long, unless you replaced them at some interval. Turbos don’t last that long.

[@0990ftn]

Well, time will tell

[@davidtriana]

@@0990ftn No, mechanical facts like Turbo's maybe making it to 125k-150k miles before they need replacement will tell.

[@Yixdy]

@@davidtriana that's what he means I'm pretty sure. He's probably also implying they could be like Chevy Cruze turbos and shit the bed at 10k miles randomly with no warning

[@0990ftn]

@@davidtriana It’s only like 7 months old you can’t be judgemental like that

[@davidtriana]

@@0990ftn My point was that n/a V-8 powered trucks/cars/vans have been proven to last longer than their turbo counterparts. You do not need to "wait" to find this out as we already know this for a fact. I love turbo's myself, it's just if I had to make a decision to buy a turbo or non-turbo vehicle and I needed something to last a really long time with the least amount of mechanical drama, I would choose the n/a engine option if available.

[@someUsername2442]

V8's are simple and effective. Twin turbo V6's are cool and interesting but add a ton of complexity and barely save any fuel especially in truck applications. They had a ton of failures with this truck right off the line, Toyota is owning it but it's hard to make reliable power with turbo's and you know its going to be expensive when those turbos fail.

[@deusexaethera]

They don't add a _ton_ of complexity, just a turbocharger, an intercooler, and a couple extra vacuum valves. Also, vehicles spend a lot more time idling than you might think, and that's when having a smaller engine really pays off.

[@HIDHIFDB]

@@deusexaethera When you work in the middle of nowhere less is better those parts are just going to be a pain the ass in 6 years. Im not agains 6 cylinder trucks but why not a inline 6 with a 10 speed auto, something that can be ultra reliable and good on the fuel maybe not so fast but for work truck / family truck would be great.

[@misham6547]

@@deusexaethera turbochargers are complex bits of tech in their own right, and there's two of them

[@GiordanDiodato]

actually the twin-turbo V6 gets slightly better mileage

[@GamerGabbar]

In all honesty, a small displacement V8, like a 3.8 litre or something with twin turbos would be nice for the crowd that's enthusiastic for V8s.

[@smittoria]

You mean the mericans and other dinosaurs?

[@adrianwelgemoed9562]

Why complicate it even further. The v6 works great. Besides, isnt it supposed to go up against an f150 which is also a twin turbo v6

[@borla4491]

@@adrianwelgemoed9562 V8s aren't "complicated" compared to V6s. And are long lasting with better torque!

[@borla4491]

@@smittoria What!? *Stone Cold Steve Austin's Voice*

[@wristofkings]

@@borla4491 Pretty sure the forced induction gas engines are making comparable if not more torque, and lower on the tach. Jury is still out on reliability but the 3.5L Ecoboost seems to be durable enough for your average end user who *might* use half this thing's available payload or towing capacity 4-5 times a year.

[@ioannisalexiou7227]

I'm really curious to see what happens in 5-10 years when all these electronics start failing (not Toyota specific). Cars today are becoming more obsolete than computers.

[@ProfPsycDad]

YO, I was hoping this comment was here. My bros in Christ, *listen* . y'all are arguing about turbo longevity and get that tunnel vision....these cams and screens are gonna go soft before the turbos do. Barry "'Murica" Hoffstetter and his adherents are missing the forest for the treees....BUT, you cant GET a simple truck these days.... Stuff this engine in a SINGLE CAB LONGBED with a clean dash, no cams or screens and I think it would sell well...

[@Scypher0th]

110% true.....its planned tho....it forces idiots who buy a new cars to be stuck in a trade in loop for the rest of there life till they get out of it....

[@eurosonly]

I thought I was the only one who was concerned with this but then again, companies don't care about the long term effects if everyone else is in the same competition as well. This is why we should all hold onto out 90s cars even more so. Technology does not last long and when you put a computer inside of a working car, you're only shortening its life span.

[@bendover3820]

I just want A/C, power windows & locks, maybe a radio...

[@ioannisalexiou7227]

@@bendover3820 I see plenty of NEW cars here where you get active safety features from the base model, but you need to go up 2-3 levels to get read electric windows.

[@superfisher4379]

Barry does have a point considering these Turbo V6 engines are having problems and likely won't last as long They also will have more issues over the lifetime of the engine.

[@southerncoyote]

Not to get conspiratorial but I think the idea is that by the time it blows they’ll have an electric crate replacement.

[@lyianx]

@@southerncoyote and that they want you to bring it to them to work on it. They dont want you working on this yourself.

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

All for basically the exact same fuel economy, but twice the unreliability

[@ByTorSnowDog65098]

I drive a 2004 Tundra Double Cab. It has 175,000 miles now. I literally have people walk up to me and offer to buy it at least twice a year, more if we're having a yard sale and it's parked outside. Then it's every fifth person. It's just the right size. Tows our travel trailer. Gets me in and out of fishing spots. Hauls weekend project stuff. I just dumped about $2,000 in routine maintenance items because we've decided to drive it until it dies rather than pay $60,000 to replace it. When I mentioned this to the dealer's shop guys, they agreed it was the only way to go with today's prices. I like that the 2022 tundra offers a hybrid option and that's pretty tempting. These glass screen cockpits really irritate me though and I'll be honest the 2022 is just too big. I don't drive around with a crisis of masculinity.

[@nathan9314]

I have a 2000 Limited Extended Cab with about 165,000 miles and I absolutely love it. Other than rock chipped paint and a few minor parts that are wearing out due it being 22 years old the, thing is rock solid. Part of that is the 1 previous owner took really good care of it, but it's a testament to its durability. While the gas mileage is horrible, I find it funny that it has less issues than my family and friends decades newer vehicles.

[@GiordanDiodato]

I think you can get it smaller

[@carolinacars739]

Ah, I see Toyota has now fully implemented the "GET OUT OF MY WAY" grille! Looks like I will become very familiar with these in my review mirror as they sit 1/2 car length off my back bumper despite me doing 20+ mph over the limit on a back road...

[@quillmaurer6563]

Toyota (and Lexus) was the pioneer of the hideous whale-shark grille on all their models to my understanding, and their trucks have always looked a bit "bro" styled. So combine all these and you'll put Rams to shame. I feel like Toyota and Ram are competing for who can make the most aggressive-looking bro-esque truck.

[@robertbeecroft5570]

That’s when you give them the “GET OFF MY ASS” brake slam.

[@bwofficial1776]

@@robertbeecroft5570 I was driving a Prius once (great car as long as you don't need to to be fast) and a guy in a lifted 2nd gen Tundra crossed three lanes so he could ride my bumper. He almost flipped his truck when I demonstrated just how good Prius brakes are. He got the message.

[@carolinacars739]

@@robertbeecroft5570 Haha trust me I've tried that! Usually doesn't work... You can't fix stupid!

[@quillmaurer6563]

@@robertbeecroft5570 Problem is, with such a tall hood, they'll not see you, and with such an absurdly large vehicle, they'll plow straight through you.

[@CalvinHikes]

It's a bigger truck on the outside but smaller on the inside with worse visibility. Smaller bed with wider turning radius. I love toyotas but I'm not quite sure what's the upgrade.

[@TheMsdos25]

Personally I'd be worried more about long term reliability from this motor than horsepower. We've all seen the issues the Ecoboost F150 had, but if anyone can build something to last it's Toyota.

[@james_chatman]

Yep.

[@redcatxb125]

They are already having turbo issues with the tundras

[@huythai1222]

@@redcatxb125 is it really turbo issues or are people gunning the tundra without considering it’s break-in period? Although the tundras engine is tuned differently from the LS500, it’s still the same engine and ours have about 80k miles with still no issues.

[@jamesgizasson]

The thing is... people why buy this new probably won't have it long enough to see those issues manifest. 20 years from now, we'll know if it's actually a good truck. They'll be on their fifth owner, and they'll be thrashed. If they're still running, I'll be ecstatic. :3

[@jeebus2121]

There should be more concern with direct injection than the turbos. The carbon build-up on intake valves of direct injection engines is really unpleasant.

[@biganimetiddies1287]

Having gone from NA to turbo with my most recent set of cars, I can safely say that while fuel economy may be similar, 87 octane is way cheaper than 93.

[@jonathanryan2915]

That's one of my biggest problems with the idea of owning a new turbo car or truck. Better mileage (maybe) but is it costing less at the same time?

[@bicyclesoda716]

I'm glad my turbo Fusion does not require 93 now that gas prices have soared since I purchased it.

[@Scypher0th]

@@bicyclesoda716 dosnt require but is highly recommended its like how ford says u can use regular 5w30 oil in there turbo engines but it is highly suggested you use sythetic....my car runs fine on 87 and ppl all around the world use it i myself use premium and synthetic want my car to last until i die....

[@lyianx]

@@jonathanryan2915 According to information, this truck uses 87-octane gasoline, even with the twin turbos.

[@LackeyKh]

@@Scypher0th That's why when people run Conventional oil in an ecoboost and run it for the recommended Ford 10k interval they'll burn 3+ quarts. Even running a 5k interval it'll burn a shit ton of oil.

[@mitchellboling2941]

5.7 V8 truck owner here, the appeal of a NA V8 isn't the pure power, it's the simplicity. It's an incredibly simple and easy going motor that I know will last 200k+ with ease. Turbos add a ton of heat and piping and additional failure points that I just don't want in a pickup truck. Add to that the significantly better engine breaking you get with a much larger motor, NA V8s just make more sense for a full size pickup.

[@juniperburton7693]

You make good points.

[@stufoo]

i bet you dont even work on your on vehicles...

[@mitchellboling2941]

@@stufoo I do.

[@GhostZodick]

@@stufoo I bet your are a communist

[@cookmania3465]

That motor is far from simple... from a former tundra owner

[@jules337x3]

Who wants a v8 when you could have 10,000 more parts to break?

[@erichdiebenow4727]

But muh direct injection and port injected monstrosity of a v6 with 40 turbos!!!

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

For the same fuel economy haha

[@666cemetaryslut]

Mr regular is so biased towards Japanese car makers it isn't funny

[@matthiasknutzen6061]

Perfect for going to Walmart getting some groceries and driving to work. Only thing 90% of owners will do.

[@AATGStudios]

To do something as simple as an oil change on one of these you have to force the active spoiler into the deployed position. Working at Toyota as a maintenance tech, I'm interested to see how these technologically advanced trucks age ten years from now

[@Kstang09]

This guy is the kind of truck owner that makes me snicker... he can justify all that shit so damn well! And he's single, you say?! Barry the human enigma... Everything about the new Tundra is wrong for people who actually want a truck that does truck things. Food for thought: I just returned from 910 miles worth of driving through the US & Canada pulling 5,000lbs worth of 20-foot-fiberglass-boat-&-trailer-plus-600lbs-of-outboard with a 2021 Sierra Denali 6.2 full of gear. We got a net mpg of 15.8 over the trip. That is insanely good, IMHO. Oh, and an F150 ecoboost (also w/fake V8 vroom-vroom noises) doing the same journey with a 3,500lb boat got 14.6. Not saying this new Tundra is the same as an ecobust, but which engine has half the parts, turns half the rpm, and runs half as stressed? Sometimes more is better, and I'm not talking about inches of touchscreen or number of birds eye camera angles.

[@garrettorpin6584]

Hope you caught some fatty walleye during that trip!

[@hardcorecampinggear]

I think they're missing the boat with this (although no doubt it will be successful). They should have kept the Tundra the same size as the last generation. Tacomas are already close to the size of the 1st gen Tundras. How much bigger do you need? They should have gone the opposite direction with a bare bones Baby Yota to compete with the Maverick.

[@001dman]

the 3rd gen is still basically the same size as the 2nd gen. personally i feel my 1st gen was the perfect size for a fullsize work truck

[@hardcorecampinggear]

@@001dman That's what I've got. 2005 Tundra Double Cab. Honestly... it's a bit long. I probably would have been fine with just an access cab. But I agree about it being the goldilocks of trucks.

[@vincedibona4687]

I honestly think if Toyota came out with a small truck, the size of the original 1980s pickup (before the Tacoma badge), with smaller rims and tires with sidewalls, a small NA 4- cylinder and 20MPG _in town,_ they’d sell a million in a year. No one wants to load a bed that gets 4 inches higher every model refresh. Two seats, standard bed (maybe offer an “extended cab” with a short bed, but keep frames the same), and a price under $25k and it’s a smash hit. IMHO anyway.

[@sednoid]

no can do. always need bigger. always need more. new always better. consume.

[@louiearmstrong]

Tundras are for towing boats or campers. If you aren't towing, you don't need this much truck, but I understand why they make this vehicle

[@gv280z]

I don't know, i think I'm with Mr. Hoffsetter on this one...I really don't want any turbos in my trucks or grandma cars that really DON'T NEED TO BE THERE! Please give me a turbo when I ask for it on a sports car when I'm deliberately planning on my vehicle becoming unreliable. Turbos are hot, they're complicated and only enthusiasts should be messing with them. It's like putting Wankel 13B's in grandma's buick and dad's suv. Why? Only people that know about that sub genre of bull shit should be messing with it! Look people, I have an '05 Chevy Silverado 1500 with 4.3L v6 475,000 miles that still runs and drives great, it does all the truck stuff I need it to. I have a '12 Silverado with the 4.8L LS v8 with 410,000 miles on it, runs and drives great, I log 65,000 miles a year on it. My co-worker has a '14 Silverado with Eco Tech v6, had to have the engine rebuilt at 210,000 miles because of Cylinder De-activation and GDI, Fucking quit it car companies! This new shit sucks!

[@deusexaethera]

Speaking as a guy who doesn't particularly care about V8s: My only concern is whether the twin-turbo V6 can haul a loaded trailer up the Rocky Mountains without burning-out something, because that's pretty much the gold standard for what a full-size pickup truck needs to be able to do. If it can do that, then it's fine.

[@jessefreitas44]

Well I have no doubt it can do it, the question is how many times can it do it before it blows up?

[@gp_ethan692]

Toyota over build everything as we’ve seen before, but turbos under constant load like that is just awful for them and let’s hope that people dont do the classic “my truck doesn’t need an oil change, it already has oil”

[@grantkendrick277]

There is a standardized test that every vehicle with a tow rating must go through. Including but not limited to acceleration, stopping, slalom, and long bouts of uphill towing in extreme conditions. If it's rated for it and the vehicle is healthy with clean fluids it'll do it, period end of story. People have issues towing when things either were about to break or were already broken, weird modifications, old coolant, low on fluids, generally worn out vehicles etc. My 96 ram (5.9l) struggled with roughly 5k pounds being pulled behind it far more than it should have, and I found out yesterday my cat is clogged.

[@Synergy7Studios]

@@grantkendrick277 ratings don't tell you if a part will survive it's 100th trip up the mountain, let alone its 1000th.

[@deusexaethera]

@@jessefreitas44 : The same question can be asked of any engine. Assuming the turbos are good and there's adequate intercooling, they should have no problems. 18-wheeler engines are all turbocharged and can handle that workload just fine.

[@Krazie-Ivan]

Imagine the milage a motor/trans like this would get if it wasn't pushing a crypto mining operation worth of electronics & lazy-comforts, shaped like a cross between the Borg ship & Lou Ferrigno's forehead. Basically, can we just get a truck?

[@seththomas9105]

Preach, brother!!

[@james_chatman]

You speak to my soul.

[@SlapStyleAnims]

Amen to that!

[@SpartanFore]

2022 Toyota Tundra: What the Ecoboost F150 should've been. Also: the people complaining about no V8 in the Tundra are the same people who will let a chevy salesman con them into buying a 1500 with a 4-cylinder and be okay with it because it's 'murrican and has the bowtie on the front. Also pt 2, electric boogaloo: Just bought a '22 Tacoma TRD Sport last year, and if the upcoming next gen Taco is as nice as the new Tundra and retains stickshift, I'll for sure be trading up for one

[@30minforasn]

Exactly. They same clowns hating on the new tundra for having a v6tt is the same fools praising the 2.7 liter 4 banger tt. No logic here but merica only!

[@seththomas9105]

The older I get (52) the more I subscribe to the K.I.S.S. priciple and that goes double X infinity for the automotive world. Reading the comments below it looks like I'm not alone. I (We) just want a simple, reliable, economical pickup truck, be it 1/2 ton to full ton, or God forbid the S-10/Ranger or Dakota of old would come back. I own a 2005 Chevy 1/2 ton 4X4. Single cab, 5-speed. It does have a nice radio and A/C, everything else is run by hand. Windows, locks, 4X4 is the lever on the floor, not even cruise. I have the 4.8 which runs and pulls like a champ, and the 5-speed gets me up to 23 on the highway. No cameras, no video games mounted on the dash, no infotainment, no carpet, no leather power seats.... I mean fer Christsake it ain't supposed to be a Caddy. All the electronic, "Safety" and luxury BS on vehicles the last 30 years has bloated their curb weight and made them maintainence nightmares. Bleah.

[@benanderson89]

Then buy a Ford Transit.

[@fraxonthefurry21]

Same and I'm 26. I love base models and simplicity. But most people are privileged enough to pay others to fix their problems but I work on my own stuff.

[@maxwellbutler4184]

@@benanderson89 came here to say this. I have a ‘20 T-250 cargo van. No infotainment, very few nannies and what ones are there can easily be defeated, no power seats, no turbos, no start/stop, not even cruise control on mine. You start it with a key, you press the gas, it moves you and your goods down the road. I love it. Vans are the last vestige of pure unpretentious work vehicles we’ve got left.

[@benanderson89]

@@maxwellbutler4184 vans have always been the true work vehicle because, let's face it, pickups will never be as practical as a literal box on wheels (especially if you have mounting points on the side of the van for things like glass sheets). I'm in the UK so whenever you see a works vehicle, 99% of the time it'll be a van. Hell, I've seen more Estate Cars (Station Wagons) with roof rails used as works vehicles compared to pickups here!

[@theofficialseanodonnell7498]

More Barry hofstetter ! Breaking into culture club threw me for a loop! Also we all need more uncle pulltab!

[@teddieteddie7535]

The last generation of Tundra (heck, many vehicles released around 2008) look like 10 pounds of seed in a 5 pound bag so even with the oversized hood this Tundra is an improvement. I'm amused how far down the rung Limited is these days since it reminds me of my base model early 90s Camry where DX stands for Deluxe. Barry sounds like several of the people I grew up around in the Twin Tiers Region of NY/PA.

[@kedelbach]

"do everything a minivan will do". Except get >30mpg. Or carry 6 passengers. Or be relatively easy to drive in a parking lot. Or carry a 4x8 sheet of plywood without hanging over the tailgate. Or have a bumper actually at bumper height, rather than a normal car's windshield height. etc.

[@MrSlowestD16]

You're right, it doesn't do everything a minivan would, but he's right in what he was getting at that it's becoming a modern day mini-van for many young men, versus the icon of construction crews trucks used to be.

[@MrSlowestD16]

​@@jkeelsnc They're not dismissing the advantages of a mini-van, they just don't want to drive a van to work - where everybody will see & call them a pussy. That applies 2x if they have a blue collar job. Talk about being emasculated... It's not wrong to buy a vehicle you want to drive instead of sacrificing that in the name of utilitarianism.

[@coryernewein]

Well the fuel economy argument goes away pretty quick when you work the truck, plus the durability and expense of a TT setup does not inspire me with the warm feels.

[@vapsa56]

I agree with you. But I doubt that is going to be a work truck. It will not haul anything heavier than Ben himself.

[@coryernewein]

In his case it's just fine, but my truck does more than grocery runs and soccer trips 🙃 I wish they stuffed the V8 in with the new trans for those who optioned it...I can only guesstimate, but the fuel economy must have been better than the old 6spd.

[@michaelbukowski7396]

The piped-in engine noise reminds me of C.M. Kornbluth’s story “The Marching Morons” where the cars are rigged to sound faster and more powerful than they are.

[@MoGumboFukUTubeForChngngMyName]

How about the clapping coconut horses in Search For the Holy Grail?

[@collinmacgreggor3562]

and toyota technicians everywhere (my self included) roll their eyes with the 5 recalls on it at 7.24.22 and the pain in the ass oil changes and the ridiculous amount of electronics on it for a truck that people want to be reliable. wont see these offroading in 20 years. wont last that long. by reliability. also, this thing gets moving, but for 70k im not seeing it.

[@evanmcbride6309]

“Weighed young men in their underwear at the MEPS station” Absolutely amazing

[@TheAndre8900]

Damn those new trucks are fugly. REally they look both silly and awful. Can we please stop the MEGAGIGAUBERGRILL trend please? Pretty please?

[@sythe64]

They don't haul lumber like my minivan. I can fit 4x8 sheets in my minivan with the doors all closed, and not need a step ladder to get them out.

[@scarlettwilliamson5370]

"I like stupid big trucks now cus people are letting me drive them! Now check out this brand new press car, I love it cus they let me drive it! Tune in next week for an advertisement for our next giveaway car that's so tuned and modded it's lost all its original characteristics. I love it!"

[@Deschain-um7jz]

I work for Toyota. I’ll be seeing a lot of these in the plant parking lot soon enough.

[@adeedaas8966]

You haven’t already? There’s like 12 in our parking lot already

[@Deschain-um7jz]

@@adeedaas8966 I’ve seen maybe 2 or 3

[@iulian9245]

As a Romanian who always lived in Italy and has seen small cars carry a lot of stuff and people around I don't get why you would buy a truck to serve the same function of a car. I mean if the owner is single, and his job or hobbies don't require to carry a lot of stuff and at the same time people what's the point of a very big truck. It ways more than a sedan or a wagon so it gets worse gas mileage. You can't carry stuff in the bed if it rains and also I'm sure that it's less comfortable than a same price car. Maybe it is a couture things, maybe a truck for you represents what Fiat or Autobianchi was for us, a simple, honest car that gets you, your family and your things form place to place. But I don't think truck nowadays are simple nor honest, so what do they represent now in your culture?

[@eustahijelifetips]

Everything is big in america? Ever heard of that?

[@iulian9245]

@@eustahijelifetips yes and I don't understand why

[@benjaminboyer39]

The utility of the vehicle is usually second to some other need. Status symbol is a LOT of it. Trucks are considered macho where other vehicles are considered feminine, or just less manly. It's stupid not to buy a truck for that one time every two years you need a giant bed to haul mulch or something. There are many people that fully use the cargo ability of a truck but there are many, MANY people that just buy trucks because trucks "are what Americans buy"

[@iulian9245]

@@benjaminboyer39 thanks for an answer

[@voided3]

@@benjaminboyer39 I'd say that's a fair summary, though I'd also add in that (at least prior to crazy market pricing now) that a mid-level trim 1/2 ton truck cost roughly the same as a higher trim mid-sized three-row crossover, too. Guess which one dad actually wants (haha). We have a 1/2 ton truck primarily to tow a camper trailer, but it's also a daily driver and I use it for the usual home improvement store runs. The only thing that sucks is parking it in tighter situations, which also makes it more susceptible to people smacking it with their door because it's so wide. It squeaks out about 20-22 MPG cruising on the highway, too, which isn't terrible by my standards.

[@grug_son_of_thog]

Good for Ben. If that truck makes him happy, more power to him. But *God* is that front end repulsive IMO. Also, holy shit the swirl marks on that display *already.* (8:55) The thing isn't even a year old and it's already that bad from being wiped down? I can only imagine how that's going to look 10 years down the line.

[@quillmaurer6563]

I've wondered why trucks always have to have such tall and long hoods - seems very impractical. I look at the comparable vans (say Ford F-150 vs Econoline E-150), to my understand they're the same platform, same engine and chassis, but the van's hood is much shorter and lower, showing that it would be possible to do that. All I can figure is the truck is built to a certain image, built to look tough and "heavy duty," while the van is built for purely utilitarian ends and thus is the most practical design possible. This really blows a hole in anyone who says their truck is for utility rather than image - it's literally built to be an image.

[@MrSlowestD16]

Yea, they're fuckin hideous, right? And it's crazy b/c the new Tacoma is quite good looking, IMO.

[@tobyvision]

@@quillmaurer6563 The latest Tacoma's engine bay is a mystery to me. It's extremely cramped, but there is literally like an empty foot between the radiator and the grille. It doesn't even seem like crush space because the grille is thin plastic and the rest of the space is empty. Nothing there to even absorb energy. I don't get it.

[@quillmaurer6563]

@@tobyvision So you mean it has extra length on the front for no reason? All I can figure is aesthetics, they want to give it a big high long hood to make it look "tough" and "heavy duty." Only other possibility is that they wanted to give extra room for a different engine - I don't know if they give multiple engine options, maybe one is significantly longer than the other and the truck you saw had the shorter engine, but they have the same hood and grille. Or even they don't offer the bigger engine currently but wanted the option to put a different engine in later on.

[@tobyvision]

@@quillmaurer6563 I don't own one, it's just what I've seen looking at a couple of them. I think you can only get the V6 now, but I'm not sure. It probably traces back to space for options or just appearance. And based on this Tundra here, I'm gonna guess appearance.

[@seb_1504]

Barry was right the twin turbo 6s aren't holding up like the N/A V8s

[@adeedaas8966]

The hybrid that’s starting to come out has nearly 600 pound feet of torque

[@MoGumboFukUTubeForChngngMyName]

Something fundamentally wrong using the word “Pickup” and “Hybrid” in the same sentence.

[@giggiddy]

I'm a big torque guy. The hybrids with thier torque claims are very intriguing to me but they are very complex so I'm not sure I'll ever bite on that type of power train. I just don't feel it would hold up to hard core commercial use like a diesel would. Love these reviews...

[@atherrien95]

@@MoGumboFukUTubeForChngngMyName sounds like a you problem

[@Tool0GT92]

@@MoGumboFukUTubeForChngngMyName Toyota has rock solid hybrid systems, more power and better MPGs is a win to me.

[@mannnygz]

@@Tool0GT92 Toyotas lineup in the past few years has shown me they're getting serious about their vehicles, I'd trust this drivetrain to survive as long as most owners would need it.

[@narglefargle]

"URGENT CARES ARE PART OF THE DEEP STATE!" That made me laugh for the first time in a week. Thank you.

[@maxon1672]

The prose, while elegant, could have easily taken a different direction here. Implying a 14” screen in a vehicle is small, but adequate… How about how silly it is to have a giant tablet mounted on the dash of a vehicle, that our relentless pursuit of the illusion of progress has forced us into a shiny, technology obsessed corner. Where functionality and the enjoyment of an experience take a backseat to dick measuring, I mean, screen measuring. “Quality” seems no longer to be measured by the durability of a material or the elegance of a design, but by a purely capitalistic function of cost and “newness.” That something is newer, bigger, more this or that doesn’t inherently make it better. This cynical view of the past will hurt us. Everything is balance, and I fear the instant gratification mindset encouraged by the internet and taken advantage of by marketing agencies and governments will be the downfall of our collective consciousness.

[@maxon1672]

I should also add that a 10-speed trans and different rear gearing would have made a V8 get the same or nearly the same fuel mileage, especially under towing. All without the extra failure points of a twin turbo system… Let’s not even get started about the hybrid powertrain.

[@SomethingFunny454]

the v8 you are mocking is one of the best engines ever made. more 1,000,000+ mile engines than any other

[@a.dudeman7715]

Unless it takes regular ol' cheap 87 gas, I can't see this being cheaper to operate than a NA V8 as far as average MPG goes, nevermind the added complexity of a twin turbo system. I imagine you're probably paying more per mile having to run more expensive fuel. A shame that cylinder deactivation is so unreliable. That aside, why the hell can't I get a truck with a column shifter anymore? No dial, no console mount. I want a damn column shifter.

[@jasonwhitler4167]

It runs plan old 87 and the engine ratings were done on 87. I get 19-20 mpg around town and up to 23 on the highway depending on which way the wind blows (this truck is a giant sail). My old gen 1 tundra never did better than 19 on the highway.

[@Tool0GT92]

Old man yells at cloud

[@a.dudeman7715]

@@jasonwhitler4167 That ain't too bad, actually. I was under the impression that it ran on higher octane.

[@a.dudeman7715]

@@Tool0GT92 As is the style these days.

[@doctorgravel8572]

@@a.dudeman7715 Onions and belts come standard.

[@fromach]

The efficiency is debatable when comparing an NA V8 and an equivalent power twin turbo V6 and honestly isn't my main concern. My two main concerns are that it's one less truck on the market that can use 87 octane and it was one of two DOHC V8s I saw on the market. For a regular full size truck like this, I want something that takes cheap fuel and will go. I have turbo sports cars if I want to go fast and a diesel truck if I need to haul in any real cargo.

[@kefkafloyd]

The twin turbo V6 is designed to run on regular 87 octane gas, the computer senses the ignition performance and adjusts accordingly. If you run 93 octane you get a little more HP/torque (probably around 20 HP) but you don't have to use it.

[@dellmegas]

But lower octane fuel gives you less mpg im pretty sure, so ultimately youre just spending more time at the pump and fueling up more often by using cheaper fuel

[@giggiddy]

Amen. These vehicles are extremely complicated. The transmissions constantly shift and slip just trying to keep those turbos in optimum range. That will ensure problems down the road. And thats not factoring the complexity of computers synchronizing the engine for multiple turbos. No problem if folks think warranties solve all these issues. I'm a big displacement naturally aspirated guy. But they don't make to people like me. Lol

[@kefkafloyd]

​@@dellmegas The EPA rated 18/24 is with regular gas. You'll get better mileage on premium with the turbos, but it's to the order of 1 MPG. Where I live 93 octane is generally 80-90 cents more per gallon than 87. On a truck like this with a 32 gallon gas tank. premium at $5.39/gal is significantly costlier than regular at $4.59/gal. 28 gallons of 87 is 128.52, 93 is 150.92. Over time those extra dollars would buy a lot of 87 octane gas, so even if you got lucky and got an extra 2 MPG with 93, you won't come out ahead. Premium would need an extra 4.75 MPG to break even in city driving. All that being said, if I was towing/hauling with this truck, I'd be filling it up with premium simply for performance/engine timing reasons.

[@snoofayy6150]

@Martin not really anymore tbh

[@uncleguike]

3:24 they actually pumped in V8 noise into the cabin. Wow

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

That's how you know even Toyota knows they're pumping out garbage

[@SloppyMechanics]

roses are red violets are blue, i think of the tundra when im sleeping with you

[@owlfish1]

I appreciate hArRY because we’re all a little HaRrY

[@montysport94]

You spent how much of this video clowning on the V8 guys, and now these are blowing up left and right? Aged like milk.

[@bradyb5584]

I don't think the 4.7 is that bad on gas. I just drove a 2000 from PDX to Cleveland and averaged right around 19 mpg with the cab and completely full. They seemed to like going around 75 MPH. The 5.7 is a totally different story.

[@GiordanDiodato]

ironically the 5.7 actually gets better mileage.

[@bradyb5584]

@@GiordanDiodato Yeah I think on paper it does. But, atleast in my experience, it doesn't seem to. I feel like on the 5.7 I can actively watch that needle drop while driving. Could be any number of things though; different set ups, tire sets, ECT.

[@willyhwang1059]

It strikes me that modern cars are built for children who aren’t always working very hard or paying attention

[@UmmYeahOk]

“They don’t think about your truck at all.” Unless it’s taking up two parking spots, because backing up and correcting is too much of a challenge for you and you absolutely CANNOT own an actual car that has better handling. A full sized vehicle where you can park like an ass and somehow still fit in a single parking space despite that. Do you and your family of 1-4 really need that truck? What are you hauling that can’t get done in a car? Off road? How often do you do that? No, driving over the curb or median doesn’t count because you didn’t even know it was there. Sure, there are actual people who need them for work and recreational purposes, but those people are rare. And some of those spend 5 minutes trying to park it. Some even wished manufacturers would go back to reasonably sized trucks that didn’t require a ladder to get in, and could see the Miata in front of them at the stop light. But for the majority, it’s exactly what RCR said. Its domain is the Costco parking lot. It is a modern minivan for people who refuse to get a minivan, and ONLY because people started asking them if they planned on trading in a practical car, for something more pathetic, as if it were a requirement for adulthood.

[@okk7306]

Stay mad car pleb, I've never once even thought about trading my truck for a car, it's just too useful and fun to bop around in

[@donaldhollums3278]

I’m underwhelmed. I’ll continue to drive my 22 year old Silverado; it ain’t a status symbol, much less on it to go wrong, and I pay attention to what’s going on when I drive.

[@donaldhollums3278]

@jdslyman The only issue in the dash cluster is the fuel level sender from the fuel pump causing the needle in the fuel gauge to stick some times. That started about a year ago. I ain’t worried about it, if the fuel pump goes out I’ll change out the sender when I change out the fuel pump. The top of the plastic dash is cracked, which should be expected on a 22 year old truck. I haven’t found a replacement yet and I do not want to just put a cover over it. But, the 5.3L V-8 has almost 220,000 miles on it and still runs as smooth as when it was new. I changed out the plugs at 170,000 miles and replaced two coil packs three years ago. Until 8 years ago the truck was my daily for 7 years, now I only drive it two or three times a week. But, I have no need for another truck.

[@wranglercody8422]

Even with all its “complexity “ of turbos & hybrid tech. This’ll still outlast any other truck. Fuck your 5.9 Cummins or your square body Chevy garbage. This is way better and will run circles around your 20 y/o shitboxes. Yes I’m sorta being sarcastic. Not much tho.

[@TheMicro4]

Start with a belch and end with a Shakespeare quote, that’s some quality RCR

[@paulm6481]

I rather buy an American truck with real V8 and honest to God noises.

[@droma2366]

Why not a previous gen v8 tundra? Made in usa

[@T0astedR0asted]

Thank you Barry

[@alabama2uz]

In 20 years we'll know if they last 20 years like the V8s.

[@vulekv93]

They will not. Turbos never last long, no matter how well they build them, too many heat cycles and too many moving parts. But you can't have your cake and eat it to... I'm just sad that we give Swedish children way too much credit, we, the people should remain as selfish as possible and grab as much as we can for ourselves.

[@SMLEFGFJB]

After watching this, I'm going to drive my 1993 car for the rest of my life. I'm an old man, shaking a stick, and yelling at the sun.

[@CreatureOutOfTime]

I think you are missing the point, both Toyota and Mr Regular. The reason people still want to see a V8 available is because in their mind V8 is more sturdy, reliable and easy to repair engine. People think that twin-turbo V6 just wont take the beating and abuse that a work truck experiences. Meanwhile a "work truck" just doesnt exist anymore.

[@LLG47]

Work trucks still exist but people just don't buy them new, ultimately the reliability and utility is going to affect resale value when the first owner sells it to the second owner who will use it for his painting business. The first owner needs it to last long enough to be able to sell it to somebody later on when they upgrade

[@CreatureOutOfTime]

@@LLG47 ok, but do you still agree that point of V8 is less parts, less service, less things that can break

[@LLG47]

@@CreatureOutOfTime yes, I wouldn't buy a truck but serviceability is paramount.

[@lc7581]

Yeah, I understand that you're able to get amazing things out of a turbo, but the point of a NA V8 is simplicity and durability.

[@bakedandsteaked]

My review. Open door: BEEP BEEP BEEP Unbuckle seatbelt for literally 2 seconds while pulling into driveway: beep beep BEEP BEEP BEEP Back up to trailer: BEEP BEEP BEEP Car drives next to you: BEEP BEEP BEEP Get close to lane marker: BEEP BEEP BEEP Car in front of you taps brake: BEEP BEEP BEEP TL;DR: BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

[@amblyo2706]

Something about the owner’s commentary paired with rolling shots are so cinematic. Once again a banger of a video, ty barry and rcr

[@nothinghere7391]

It's a very stupid and unnecessary vehicle, being misused and driven mostly by self-centred idiots. This very Toyota Tundra is a perfect metaphor for everything wrong with american automotive landscape Like all other full size american trucks to be honest

[@chasemiles2166]

I’m always glad to see someone who is happy with their purchase, lets hope it stays that way for the time that he owns it

[@oncinaust5178]

Why are trucks so big now? I dayly drive a 1994 F150 but new rangers are bigger. I miss my old ranger,S10 and, Tacoma ….. but there are no new small trucks. If I was to buy a new “truck” the closest thing is the Hyundai Santa Cruz. And it’s not really even a truck. Can we get small trucks again? Probably not but one can dream.

[@CroakerOutdoors]

Rise in popularity of the crew cab plus... President Obama's new fuel economy regulations set targets based on different size metrics instead of an average of brand's entire fleet. It just so happened that bigger vehicles had a smaller target to hit, thusly, it was easier to build trucks bigger. Oof!

[@oncinaust5178]

Not to turn this into a “thanks Obama” moment but it seems that a smaller truck would put out less green house gas than even a same sized motor in a smaller vehicle. Maybe it’s a systemic issue rather than a political one…..my political background is neither R or D.

[@THX5000]

The designers were thinking: "How can we make this thing more hideous?"

[@jackroutledge352]

I know - we'll make it bigger! that'll do it.

[@CriticalTechReviews]

HEY! It's not truck owners complaining about Dollar Tree prices increasing in a way that completely nullifies the entire company ethos of the past several decades! It's me, someone making less than a thousand dollars a month! Trucks are ridiculously expensive compared to cars. Anyone with a truck that isn't a shitbox, is not complaining the hardest about Dollar Tree.

[@mintzbuck]

I wouldn't say these trucks truly have as much utility as a minivan until someone makes one with 3-row seating or they take advantage of how overly wide they are and make 4-across seating.

[@benjaminboyer39]

Minivans are better trucks than a lot of trucks

[@MoGumboFukUTubeForChngngMyName]

I can tell you’re not from the south, down here we can but a good ten, twelve extra people in the bed… umm, I mean 3rd row seat.

[@_RiseAgainst]

90% of truck and SUV owners would be better off with a minivan.

[@evanc6110]

@@benjaminboyer39 Not for truck stuff. Whether you do truck stuff with your truck is a different conversation.

[@Soundsofthewood]

I like toyota, Don't get me wrong. That truck though is one major example of what is wrong with trucks nowadays. It has a futuristic silly look to it and not enough ground clearance for off roading. It has a V6tt that will cause issues down the road if worked enough. All the gadgets are just absurd and another issue as time goes on. I miss the trucks that were just trucks. Cheap to buy and not overloaded with tech you don't need and still had good ground clearance to get through a decent area. I understand to a point on some tech. Electric windows are nice and make your life a little easier. Reverse camera helps with hitching up a trailer. Heated seats are nice if you live in a very cold climate.

[@robertbaratheon9289]

You can get an 8 ft bed on the two lowest trim levels of the Tundra. Once you move to the Limited the 8ft bed option disappears. Wish Toyota offered a bench seat and a dial shifter like Ram. Big dudes don't like center consoles.

[@andred1235]

I hope the newer work truck version (8 ft bed and stripped down tech package) is like my 2014 Tundra where the console flips up into a 6th seat. It's handy for "date night" with the misses.

[@intermissionbuffalo]

Modern cars are straight trash. Why do you need all that tech and massive screens? Aren't we surrounded by screens enough? Which manufacturer is going to find the happy medium between available tech and the very user friendly tactile function circa 2006-2009?

[@petergross135]

My dad has a 2015 Ford F-150 long bed crew cab. Massive truck for being a 150. He got it with the twin turbo v6, highest trim package, put in larger towing springs and a 5th wheel. Thing pulls hard, is super quiet inside, and you barely can feel any bumps. Seems like Toyota took the design of that ford and made it their own 7 years later. They always are behind the rest, but they definitely do it right.

[@quillmaurer6563]

Toyota, from what I've seen, is never the first to do anything, they lag behind trends (except maybe the hideous whale-shark grille thing, I think they pioneered that but are now lagging behind ditching it as other automakers are finally doing), but once they do jump into something they do it really well. They watch what others are doing, see what does and doesn't stick, and when they see something is sticking they jump into it and blow everyone else out of the water. Similarly, I recall they're finally going the electric direction that they've held off so long on. Not risk takers, not the ones who innovate but the ones who perfect. The one exception to this - granted 20+ years ago so probably totally different management - was the Prius, the first mass-appeal hybrid that really mainstreamed hybrid cars.

[@bwofficial1776]

@@quillmaurer6563 Now Toyota's fallen behind again because they've gone so far in on hybrids. Their hybrids are great but the market demands full electric now and Toyota has nothing but an average compact crossover with no glove box or frunk. Their hybrids were so good they saw no reason to develop electrics and now they're playing catch-up. Honda is the same way but their hybrids weren't as good as Toyota's.

[@quillmaurer6563]

@@bwofficial1776 True. They probably got complacent with hybrids and didn't switch to full electric until behind the curve. Another thing I've heard is that they were putting a lot of R&D into hydrogen fuel cells, anticipating that was the future, figuring they would ride out the electric period and be ready when the switch to fuel cells happened. But now it's looking like battery-electric really is the way of things, and now they're scrambling to catch up. Their future-tech approach gambled on the wrong horse.

[@markmiller3279]

@@bwofficial1776 I don't care about a frunk, except as a small space for cables, but leaving out the glove box is insane. I get mad when sports car makers do that, but it's even worse for something that should be a mainstream model.

[@tristankelsey1746]

These new trucks and vehicles in general are so stupid and over the top with nonsense. Too many creature comforts and computer controlled crap. They need cameras because you can hardly see out of them. Keep the computers in the office and out of cars and trucks

[@jasonpfeilsticker5692]

will be interesting to see how oil dilution might ruin these engine if they try to stay in boost range for ever.

[@wtsane5449]

As an owner of a throughly beaten 97 T-100, which doesn't leak or smoke at 445k, I think I'll pass. If you have eight cameras, it is a tacit admission that you can't see out of the driver's seat.

[@truckernation7886]

$100,000 worth of Plastic

[@Marty-fk3cm]

Trucks serve 1 of 2 purposes: 1) They're effective & efficient work-machines 2) They're ineffective & sad façades for hiding men's insecurities and low self-esteem

[@lawrencefine5020]

I did read about the Toyota V8 rumble is moving up the Billboard charts. It's got a good beat and you can dance to it.

[@Azeria]

The Toyota Tundra the official truck of “it’s actually American I swear”

[@oddlyrightoddlyright2475]

So Toyota basically made a (truck) that the average (truck) owner wouldn’t break because their (truck) is basically used as a car….3.5 v6 will eat itself after 80k if consistently pulling 7-8k and the independent rear isn’t going to hold up to the abuse a real truck owner is going to throw at it….but 85% of truck owners won’t care because it’s basically a car to them…smart but they should keep the v8 and solid rear axle in a HD package or something or bump it to 3/4 ton

[@dellmegas]

Frfr its pretty fucking smart, in texas every mf and their momma has a pickup truck but alot of people just have them as their main vehicle for going to and from work and occasionally a rare home depot run. I think that alot of people will definitely be put off of not having the solid axle.

[@dellmegas]

It seems it does have a solid rear axxle with coilsprings nvm

[@lordstingray2382]

Yep I agree about the V6. Little engine in a big heavy vehicle will be overworked I feel. I have a co-worker who has one, traded a '19 TRD off-road for a new on (I tried to talk him out of it) and does not like it at all. Says it doesn't run right. I've read that some have already started to experience turbo failures. I just think long term this is a huge mistake, I don't think these new ones will last as long as the last gen Tundras.

[@oddlyrightoddlyright2475]

@@dellmegas I don’t know why he said in the video it has a independent rear I just looked online it’s getting coils over a solid axle….

[@oddlyrightoddlyright2475]

@@lordstingray2382 maybe they’ll get smart and offer a HD version that uses a v8 and rugged suspension…people used to compare the tundra to a 3/4 ton and people used them like a HD pickup…basically with this they just took them selves out of the work truck game…I run my 20 year old 1 ton diesel ONLY when I need a truck…my Camry hybrid gets all the daily wear and tear action…so I can just keep the 70k for a new truck in my pocket

[@ehyme56]

Mr. Regular, Your guest's full name is visible in a portion of the video. You should be more careful with people's personal information and edit that out. Rant over, I still love your videos.

[@PXAbstraction]

All I can think about with all these electronic features offered on this truck is "These are going to break and be stupid expensive when they do."

[@NikkyElso]

As long as I live, I will have a negative impression of every driver of every full sized pickup on the road, but if I was going to HAVE to get one, it would be a Tundra