Remapping my own car with Kess v2. Mk2 Focus ST. Part 1

Kess v2 Reading ECU Mk2 Focus ST for Remapping
As the title says I'm going to attempt a remap of the ST myself by pulling the ECU file and send it off to be altered for a stage 1 map for me to put it back on the car. Budget Remapping
0:00 intro
0:13 unboxing
4:10 ksuite ID
7:25 ksuite ecu reading
Video Editing software used - Filmora9
Music in videos from - Filmora9 audio library
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First and foremost, thank you for taking the time to watch my videos.
I have no car experience and I have started late on in life. None of my videos are how-to/tutorials but simply some bloke with no knowledge attempting to modify his own car by saving himself labour costs at a garage.
Modified Car History:
Vauxhall Zafira GSI 245bhp (I did pop a piston on the first engine)
Subaru Impreza WRX UK version standard map
Ford Focus mk2 ST225 - Current
If anyone would like to make a collaboration video (I’m in the Blackpool Area) or if anyone would like to sponsor a video please get in touch direct at [e-mail].
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I will always take the time to answer any questions or queries as quick as humanly possible.
Stay safe everyone.

[@DriveWayRay]

0:00 intro 0:13 unboxing 4:10 ksuite ID 7:25 ksuite ecu reading

[@Jamie-pv8tg]

Where did you buy the tool from

[@DriveWayRay]

@@Jamie-pv8tg I looked at all the ones on eBay. Looked at feedback for ones they had sold and bought one also made sure it was a euro one with red pcb. That was what I thought I needed after doing the research on which one to buy. The company I got mine from are out of stock at the moment.

[@tylerraines3451]

@@DriveWayRay you was a brave man remapping it with no BSU 😅i started with a clone now own all genuine gear

[@DriveWayRay]

@@tylerraines3451 a noob mistake which I got away with won’t happen again 👍. Thanks for watching 🙏

[@MrSpeedyPete]

@@tylerraines3451 what is a bsu sorry I’m new

[@m4rkr459]

Looking forward to the outcome on this. Subscribed.

[@DriveWayRay]

If the weather breaks tomorrow I’ll upload the new modified ecu file and hopefully have it all edited and uploaded for Friday onto KZbin I’ll either be very happy or very sad I’ve broke my car but either way there will be a video 😁

[@m4rkr459]

@@DriveWayRay best of luck! Hope it all goes well for you mate 🤞🏻

[@cdmChase1]

Good job mate

[@DriveWayRay]

Thank you hope it helps others to save money

[@Timeisnowmotivation]

Just used these vids to map my mondeo 2.0tdci brilliant info and really easy to do

[@DriveWayRay]

Nice one glad it helped. Thanks for watching 🙏

[@muazzam786gmail]

Did it work ok on the 2L tdci? I want to do my mk4.5 but this scared of messing up

[@DriveWayRay]

@@muazzam786gmail as long as you take precautions retrieving the ecu file from the car and giving it to a mapper to alter the variables then use the same precautions putting the new file back on you should not have any issues as you will have the original file to put back on if you did have any

[@Timeisnowmotivation]

@@muazzam786gmail yes mate worked fine for me. I’m running my car into the ground so not too bothered about any hazards but it drives like a dream now

[@bendoherty7721]

What year mondeo is that?

[@pr1sm55]

Did it with my 3.0 Tdi to remove swirls, egr and dpf. Worked like a charm!

[@DriveWayRay]

Thanks for watching 🙏

[@nikolabozinovski2041]

With a clone? Did you rework it at all?

[@thereal_brandonwilson]

seems like you had success with the KNOCKOFF MODEL 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@DriveWayRay]

I did and I enjoyed the it 👍. Thanks for watching 🙏

[@yoann_dt2822]

Bonjour vous me conseiller de l’acheter sur quel site kess v2 ? Autodiag-France ou ailleurs ? Merci

[@lazar2175]

So i have bought an Mk4 GTI and i want to start modding it. As i'm on budget, I was looking to be able to tune the car as I progress with the mods, and I don't fancy paying a tuner every 2-3 months just because I upgraded a few parts. So do you reckon I could tune the car myself using the Kess V2? I've tuned standalone ECU's before using TunerStudio and there are a bunch of tutorials, however the Titanium ECM doesn't seem to have that many. Or do you think I could get it remote tuned? I'm not sure how would that work with heavily modded car and that's why I want to tune it myself, local tuners are asking €350+ for a tune plus it's 2.5hr drive each way so I really want to do it myself.

[@DriveWayRay]

The company I used have a standing charge of £25 to modify your original ecu file. I know they would be happy to help as I asked the same question myself. Postal remaps. Their WhatsApp number is in the comments of one of my mapping videos.

[@DriveWayRay]

I’ve had a lot of messages and emails from viewers with regards to this. I even had a chap from America message me to thank me because he used postal remaps for his sons Ford Focus for a pop and bang map. They do a great job and I wouldn’t use anyone else. I don’t get paid to say that and I have to pay full price I’m just being honest with you

[@spoonfish1660]

A bit risky but I like we’re this is going 👍

[@littlereptilian7580]

Risky? K tag is much more risky. I opened my ecu to read and write it.

[@Nvt.off71]

@@littlereptilian7580 even the fake one , like its used in this vid?

[@littlereptilian7580]

@@Nvt.off71 my ktag was also a clone lol

[@Nvt.off71]

@@littlereptilian7580 OK fine, what do u think about it ?

[@littlereptilian7580]

@@Nvt.off71 i have only tried it on my car volvo s40 1.6d and a golf mk4 1.9tdi with no problems. Golf was with kess and volvo with ktag. I wouldn't do much on new cars like 2010 and newer. Only with the original tools you can be sure.

[@galimcan06]

The tool section is useful, I don't know what features it has, I didn't click on it. Do you know what features it has?

[@launch3871]

Can I turn off airbag on this map ? I think is there option about airbags?

[@prasthadandy]

where should we buy this item sir ?

[@bartbermudo3049]

How did you install k suite?

[@fernandohood5542]

The person who changes the file is the skilled person.

[@DriveWayRay]

I’m not entirely sure if that’s just a random statement or a dig at me I’ll try and converse with you in a polite way as that’s the sort of person I am. The point of the set of videos I did were to show people they don’t have to spend a fortune on mapping their car. I used an online only mapping company to change all the variables as I wanted more than just a stage 1 map. At no point in any of the set of videos did I declare I’m skilled in mapping cars. I knew the risks and financial implications of what I was trying to achieve and if you watch the other videos I explain that. Also I’d like to thank you for watching my content as well it’s appreciated 🙏

[@fernandohood5542]

I was looking for a tool which allowed me to the dump the file, modify it it and then rewrite. I don't like the idea of the entire tuning process being taken from me. Not a dig at you but a dig at the product.

[@DriveWayRay]

@@fernandohood5542 I can point you in the right direction. You can use Winols which is a popular choice or ECMtitanium which is also popular

[@floriandemiri8723]

Hi! I did my mk6 golf 1.6tdi stage 1 and i could write the new file, but it didnt start, what could i have been done wrong? I did put my stock file back so the car is working fine again😬

[@DriveWayRay]

That will be the checksum. You can use winols to manually do that. If you used a clone kessv2 try using a newer software blog.obdii365.com/2021/01/14/free-download-ksuite-2-70-for-eu-or-china-kess-v2/

[@everythingtuning7955]

@@DriveWayRay Its because his ECU is PCR2.1 and needs to be unlocked

[@santiagojaramillo3012]

Hi. What if my car model does not appear in the car list? can I select by ECU model? Can you upload a video? Thanks!

[@joshuamitch22]

I want to know the same thing

[@Sniperssx]

Can with this tool unlock ecu as well

[@jofelsalado2266]

Is this Kessv2.53 v5.017 Red EU? If so, may I ask if it can read and write to my ECU Bosch MSE6.0? My motorcycle is CFMOTO NK400

[@DriveWayRay]

Here’s a link to the motorbike list. www.obdii365.com/upload/pro/kess-5.017-support-models-list.pdf

[@ronron7763]

Just wondering that it can read faulty PCM and transfer all firmware to good second hand PCM unit from car yard? ...in that case i dont have to pay anyone for re-coding my keys and vin etc?

[@DriveWayRay]

Not quite. You can save your setting from your pcm as a file on the laptop. Swap pcm’s then upload saved config file to new pcm. To do the firmware that’s a new ball game all together and something I haven’t looked at as The company I bought my cluster from remote accessed the cluster to reflash the firmware. I hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏

[@DriveWayRay]

I should of said to read and write you need to use elmconfig. To programme the keys you will need a fully licensed Forscan Your first 2 months full license is free on Forscan

[@davec7738]

Can i ask where you got kess from any links???

[@DriveWayRay]

I’ve added all links in the descriptions of part 4 for the kess and the mapper I used. Thanks for watching 👍 kzbin.info/www/bejne/h53Fhaeahs1oia8

[@slptuning704]

Can you remap your own file with this software or is it only to read and write ??

[@DriveWayRay]

You will need something like winols to change the variables kessv2 is a read/write of many different males and models of ecu

[@sjkruger1420]

Is there a list of vehicles that you can pull maps of somewhere on the internet or on the tool itself?

[@DriveWayRay]

Lots of forums on mapping cars have maps available. Also tutorials on how to use software like ECM Titanium to alter the variables of the ecu file. Thanks for watching 🙏

[@theunbeliever8921]

​@@DriveWayRay Hi can u plz share the names or the links of some forums?

[@liamcornford8461]

Hiya bud what did you use the software what come with it or the actual one from Allentech ?

[@DriveWayRay]

I used an updated version from here blog.obdii365.com/2021/01/14/free-download-ksuite-2-70-for-eu-or-china-kess-v2/

[@liamcornford8461]

@@DriveWayRay ok great thank you and it worked ok with the clone one then ?

[@DriveWayRay]

@@liamcornford8461 worked perfect 👍

[@launch3871]

Hi, do you have any original map from any car to send to me? I want to edit in software and learn how to do it. Thanks a lot

[@worldisawesome6789]

Dis you had any issue with the tuning after long term? No errors or any lag?

[@DriveWayRay]

No car ran fantastic but was totally asbo

[@JustRideTM]

How I can find the tuning file to write it to the ECU with the KESS? My car is Opel Insignia 2015.

[@DriveWayRay]

If it’s not listed under opel look at Vauxhall. If your struggling then do some googling to find out make and model of ecu then match it with other opel/Vauxhall cars. Then read your ecu save the file and then either alter it yourself or send it to an online tuner.

[@JustRideTM]

@@DriveWayRay Thank you so much for the info!

[@cozinhandocomaju1420]

I see you have gone for the knockoff one! How much did you pay for it?

[@DriveWayRay]

It was £60 delivered and worth every penny 👍

[@Jamie-pv8tg]

What battery support you use ?

[@DriveWayRay]

Sadly I didn’t which was a noob mistake. Definitely use some sort of stabiliser to be safe

[@muazzam786gmail]

Where did you get the kess clone for 60 mate?

[@DriveWayRay]

The company no longer sells them but do your research and you will find one to your liking

[@owenthomas6731]

How did you find getting kess on the lapt

[@DriveWayRay]

It installed first time after I had installed the correct drivers for my 7th generation i5 HP win10 laptop. I’ve read lots of people have issues but I had none.

[@michaelbullock2091]

Did you email just the ECU file or ID & ECU file to the mapper not sure if they need both?

[@DriveWayRay]

Just the ecu file. My understanding with regards to the id file is to make sure there is a stable connection between laptop-kessv2-ecu

[@michaelbullock2091]

@@DriveWayRay I managed to delete the ID while saving the tuned file, says writing was completed but no difference in the car itself, postalremaps are very helpful, going to go through the process again today so 🤞 .

[@DriveWayRay]

@@michaelbullock2091 postalremaps we’re extremely helpful to me and sorted my issues out immediately.

[@cristian1267]

Hi, can you still use the car once you download the original map? Thanks

[@DriveWayRay]

Yes all your doing is copying the file the car can still be used 👍

[@lincolnburns4996]

Have you got link to one you bought as I can't find windows 10 compatable like yours

[@DriveWayRay]

Just download the suite from here blog.obdii365.com/2017/03/16/free-download-kess-v2-ksuite-2-32-for-winxp-win10/. Hope that helps and thanks for watching 👍

[@lincolnburns4996]

@@DriveWayRay thanks dude. I'm in Rochdale. Planing on buying this and remapping my seat ibiza. Your not selling yours by any chance?

[@DriveWayRay]

@@lincolnburns4996 I’ll be using mine again. Purchase one that’s euro red pcb like mine and use that link to download the software to run it but don’t forget to put the laptop in airplane mode before you start the software or you will ruin the clone kess.

[@lincolnburns4996]

@@DriveWayRay OK. I'm not that great with computers. I. E installing stuff. If you were fairly local it would be great to have a little lesson on ksuite

[@DriveWayRay]

@@lincolnburns4996 I’ll be uploading a tutorial on pulling your file off your ecu over the next week as I’m gonna map my daily family car.

[@stevekiel82]

Did you use a battery stabiliser at all?

[@DriveWayRay]

No but I should off done. I had a fully charged spare battery and jump leads as well which would of took me a couple of minutes to use. I always use one now though

[@markgrant2987]

Hi I know it's an old video but can some1 tell me what pc requirements I need.. Like Windows 32 bit 64bit Windows 7 8 or? Cheers

[@DriveWayRay]

I ran it on 64 bit windows 10. It will run on win 7 and 8. Hope this helps 👍

[@giovagio4103]

Why do you need a battery stabiliser ?

[@DriveWayRay]

During the write process if you have a power issue with the car you could make the ecu unusable. If your laptop dies during the write process you just simply start again.

[@eishrash]

Can this be used to read and write the ecu of ktm motorcycles ?

[@DriveWayRay]

There is a dedicated detailed list on what motorcycles this would work on. A quick Google search of what your looking for may get an answer, don’t forget to include cloned kessv2 in your search. Thanks for watching 🙏

[@eishrash]

@@DriveWayRay thanks a lot bro

[@DeGier]

Hey friend I also bought kess v2 my question is from which year can I tune cars and to which year? I want to tune more vag cars also other brands that offer that option

[@DriveWayRay]

Here is a link to a vehicle list www.uobdii.com/upload/pro/kess-v2-obd2-tuning-kit-vehicle-list.pdf. Also the software is updated and they add more vehicles with the updates. Hope this helps

[@DeGier]

@@DriveWayRay Thanks friend is this also the clone? because i bought clone from aliexpress because I also responded to another who says you can only do a few cars

[@DriveWayRay]

@@DeGier this list is from a clone website www.obdii365.com/upload/pro/kess-5-017-support-models-list.xlsx

[@DeGier]

@@DriveWayRay Super thnx friend Do you know where I can buy files? on aliexpress there are also files that are reliable

[@DriveWayRay]

@@DeGier I would look for a mapper that’s reasonable and wants the original file from you to tune. Safer that way. If not have a look on eBay for tuning file packs

[@arielcor7392]

Hi. I also bought a Chinese Kess V2 5.017. It takes me 37 minutes to read a Chevrolert Sonic. Can this be normal or should I return it ?????

[@DriveWayRay]

A few variables like operating system, laptop cpu and ram, ecu read and write speed. As long as it’s reading it correctly your fine

[@AsadGamer]

Change your laptop

[@arielcor7392]

@@AsadGamer Hi. The PC has nothing to do with this. I tried the reading with a Dimsport MyGenius which is a standalone device and it also took 37 minutes to read. So the Kess V2 works fine. The protocol is like this. Writing is much faster. It takes about 3 minutes.

[@AsadGamer]

@@arielcor7392great that the Kess is working fine. thanks for sharing this info.

[@arielcor7392]

@@AsadGamer If works fine on Delco E83 ECU. But it depends on what things change. For example when I try to change some torque curves the ecu crashes with the Kess V2 and I have to use MyGenius to rewrite some of the Dimsport files to recover the ECU. With the Kess V2 I can't do a recovery. Fails.

[@KelvinSmink]

Hello, Can you see if it supports Kia Optima 1.6T-GDI 2019?😉

[@galimcan06]

Yes

[@GoogleUser-mx5oe]

Where can I buy this thing can u put a link somewhere !?

[@DriveWayRay]

Loads of vendors out there but here’s one a friend recently used www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Latest-Kess-V2-V5-017-SW-V2-47-OBD2-ECU-Programming-Tool-Red-PCB-No-Tokens-Limit-/265441940959?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0

[@omars3506]

Hello, i have the same tool but struggling to fine someone to edit the file, do you recommend any one guy ?

[@DriveWayRay]

On one of the videos in the comments I put the WhatsApp number to the guys I used called Postal remaps they were brilliant with me. Thanks for watching

[@omars3506]

@@DriveWayRay thanks mate but I couldn’t find it

[@DriveWayRay]

@@omars3506 postal remaps WhatsApp number is 07590069202

[@alpayrecep7528]

can you help me i have win 10 too but some bottoms are grey like protocols. why it don't work by me

[@DriveWayRay]

Is your laptop in airplane mode? If it’s a clone and you have tried to use it on the internet and update it you will have to look on KZbin on how to get the tokens back on

[@alpayrecep7528]

@@DriveWayRay or should install it on win7

[@DriveWayRay]

If you have a win7 laptop that would be better, but it should work as long as the laptop is not connected to the internet

[@alpayrecep7528]

​@@DriveWayRay i use the win 10 laptop completely without internet and antivirus. completely. thank for your fast answer that not normal. ic can send you a picture about facebook messenger

[@DriveWayRay]

@@alpayrecep7528 have a look at this hope it helps. blog.obdexpress.co.uk/2017/01/20/kess-v2-ktag-not-work-with-gray-buttons-in-ksuite/

[@bartbermudo3049]

What was inside the disc that they provide inside the box?

[@galimcan06]

Driver

[@galimcan06]

Ksuite driver vs.vs.

[@themechanicdrredewaan5916]

Hi, who did you use to modify the standard map?

[@DriveWayRay]

Company called postal Remaps they trade on eBay only but you can contact them through their WhatsApp number [phone]

[@themechanicdrredewaan5916]

@@DriveWayRay thank you

[@tyronerobinson9836]

What’s the best way to contact you I’ve got a few questions

[@DriveWayRay]

@fr33jack on Instagram probably the quickest 👍

[@Skiinye]

What cars can this tool be used on?

[@galimcan06]

All cars

[@jasonsamuels5845]

If you say you want to save money, is it not cheaper to ask a tuner to remap and flash? What was the cost of the Kess?

[@DriveWayRay]

Kess v2 clone £60 map £25 = £85. Cheapest remapp near me was £165 they come to you. Garage remapp locally was £250. It was all about showing people it’s possible to do it yourself cheaper if you want to. I will do it again on my next car but that will only be £25 for a map as I’ll already own the kess 😁. Thanks for watching 🙏

[@smithydummett9578]

where do you buy a working kess clone i used to have one didnt do anything

[@00raverbaby00]

I've been looking at purchasing this and stumbled on your videos. I used a galleto many moons ago to flash my pug 307 which was equally terrifying but rewarding. Out of interest, what pcb and version is your kess? Cheers for sharing your journey

[@DriveWayRay]

It’s the euro red pcb that supports 140 protocol. Hope that helps 👍

[@CAEngineer]

Hey, if it is not a problem, can u share the reading file with me?

[@DriveWayRay]

If you want my original ecu file just leave me an email address for me to send it to you 👍

[@muhamedajdini2431]

Can this can make bad things in car or no

[@DriveWayRay]

There is a risk like anything you do yourself on the car. Getting the file off the ecu and back on is the easy bit it’s finding an online mapper to change the variables to make your car go faster or pop and bang.

[@wildtechrepairs]

Lol was just about to say the same thing to say the tool was a clone lol

[@Dog_Love_17]

Hello mr I am a car tunner in iran I have good background at my work such as turning carburetor system( xu7 1997 engine) to injector system ( xum) with changing wire system , ecu boch m744 installing and remap, portpolich headsylender, Changes in gearbox coefficients , dragtime 13s to 9/7. and also turnning peujeot 206 nfu to rc ew10j4s turbo such as changing wire system, internal engine changed to forge, macking headers for installing turbo, macking handcraft intake manifold, macking 2/5 inc stainless steel exhaust system, installing adjustable ecu force sr8, installing fulepump aftermarcket and regulator , installing watermetanol system. And turnning mazda b3 8v engine to b5 16v turbo such as changing wire system, internal engine changed to forge, macking headers for installing turbo, macking handcraft intake manifold, macking 2/5 inc stainless steel exhaust system, installing adjustable ecu force sr8, installing fulepump aftermarcket and regulator, installing watermetanol system. Now i want to provide kess programmer for ecu remap but here in iran i can not provide it. Please help me about it and tell me what do i need to do Thank you

[@DriveWayRay]

Using kess to retrieve the files is the easy bit. You need a programme like ecm titanium to then open the ecu file to change the variables. There are thousands of tutorials on the internet for ecm titanium. I took the sensible option and once I got the file I sent it to a qualified mapper who did the hard work for me for a minimal fee. Have a look on KZbin for some ecm titanium tutorials. Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏

[@Dog_Love_17]

Thank you❤❤❤

[@kacperchrusciel890]

How much did you pay for the kess v2? link?

[@DriveWayRay]

It was £70

[@kacperchrusciel890]

@@DriveWayRay thanks

[@gabontz]

@@DriveWayRay Amazon or eBay?

[@DriveWayRay]

@@gabontz I got it off eBay but the company sold all their units and never restocked sadly.

[@conswellalynch7221]

I'm still none of the wiser. Do you know how to remap yes or no

[@DriveWayRay]

I used the kess to retrieve the file from the ecu. I then sent that file to a remapper who changed the variables and they sent me back the modified file and then I used the kess to put the file back on the car. Ecu titanium or winols are both software to modify your file

[@geowrgetudor]

The software is 9 years old. so be careful with fake kess guys :)

[@DriveWayRay]

I’ve just been reading about that. How different developers have carried on improving it and in fact it’s now at 2.80.

[@geowrgetudor]

i dont know what the fake one is at... im using the genuine one. But as you said in the video, who's doing this is taking the risk to damage the ecu. :)

[@DriveWayRay]

@@geowrgetudor I definitely knew the risks financially. The ST is my second car and the cost of an ecu clocks keys barrels and transponder second hand was less than £200. With that in mind if I had bricked the ecu I would of essentially also created a lot more content with removal and installation of all parts I just mentioned. I did enjoy doing it though just wish I had the cash to buy all original kess equipment as it is something I could definitely get into

[@craigs6290]

Stage 1 is about £100- £350, why would u run the risk?.... remappers have insurance to cover them if they brick ur ecu...

[@DriveWayRay]

Thanks for watching 👍. Have a watch of my other videos on it. I do explain why and the online mappers are genuine mechanics that retail genuine equipment. The map was no different than what you would put on from a dream science box that retails at £500 except I did it for a fraction of the cost and yes I made some mistakes. A used ecu for my st was less than £100.

[@Morteexx]

Ive been using kess v2 clone 1year now, arround 200cars tuned with no problem. I bricked once but that was to try recovery and that worked aswell, people say clone not can do it 🤷‍♂️ but it worked for me. But the only thing i can say negative about kess clone is the components, they are cheap and 1day they will brake, so having 2 clones or a buddy with it is a must. 😁 also genuine programs for making files are the thing if you want complete file, not use the programs that follow with clone 😂🤷‍♂️ dont waste time on the shitty software 😎

[@DriveWayRay]

Totally agree with what you said and thanks for watching 🙏

[@homasholz]

good to know, where have you bough it ?

[@kevinthorsen6032]

You are crazy for not using a battery charger on your car for this

[@samfowler4140]

You know this a clone...

[@DriveWayRay]

I do as I talk about the problems with clones not doing checksum with the files so the car doesn’t start. This is part 1 of a 4 part series I did

[@beauhulse4971]

Further a Jew!

[@Thumper68]

Risky with fake tool

[@DriveWayRay]

It’s risky with fake or real tool albeit more risky with a fake one. I knew the risks and calculated the cost as minimal. This was not my daily in fact the previous 12 months of ownership I drove it a total of 1500 miles.

[@Thumper68]

@@DriveWayRay I saw that in other parts I’m watching 4 now. I was watching for tool info. Thanks

[@DriveWayRay]

@@Thumper68 I’ll be honest if money wasn’t a problem I would of spent 2k on a legitimate kit. If people understand the risks of clone kits and financial implication if it all goes wrong then it could be worth it. I knew that but I used a legitimate mapper to change the variables as I want it to succeed. If it had failed there would of been lots of videos of me putting a used ecu in with barrels and transponder and whatever else I had to replce

[@Thumper68]

@@DriveWayRay I totally understand we all looking for safest and cheapest way. I wouldn’t ever pay 2k if I could afford it or not honestly just don’t feel it’s worth it. The fact they can make clones that can work for 60 tells me the hardware in the new one doesn’t cost 2k. Of course your paying for little more then just the hardware so I understand 3-500 but that’s where I stop. Maybe that’s why I prefer my 68 Camaro I just build my own hp ;)

[@DriveWayRay]

@@Thumper68 and I great choice of car as well 👍

[@ra8620]

Always go to the clone way is the safest way my humpty Dumpty programmers if brick 🧱 it brick your second hand ECU not your stock ECU 🤓😁 never ever play with stock ECU if get brick you are done one thing is the great message is you can collect your ECU file at a safe device and cloud file lockers so Incase your ECU get brick you can clone your send hand ECU. But as long stock ECU is fine keep it safe and play around with a second hand ECU from the scrap yard .

[@idirh.1716]

Could you explain more please ? What do you mean by second hand ecu

[@galimcan06]

​@@idirh.1716It was removed from another unused vehicle, but the ecu is intact, play with it, I bought it and I'm applying my imagination.