$1900 Studio Display Review - But Why?!

[@ReneRitchie]

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[@PeterbFree]

The issue is the price. What did an entry level iMac cost a few weeks ago? This is that product, redesigned and significantly downgraded, for how much? Apple gear is great, this display is great, but this price, by Apple’s own standards, is just wrong

[@StrangerNoises]

I am getting one. Hopefully arriving this week. The price is a bit mad when you compare with that of the low-end Intel 5K iMacs, but relative to the Ultrafine 5K, it's easily $300 better than that (and here in Europe it's wholly discontinued anyway, so it's not an option). But it's what I've always wanted, and no-one else is making anything like it, so I kinda have to get one now. 😀 Pixel density is everything. Wish Dell was making one... (I'd actually really have liked standalone versions of the 4.5K screen in 24" iMacs. I might have got two of those. But I reckon if that was coming at all it would have been announced at the same time, and we'd be talking now about the Studio Display 24 and Studio Display 27.)

[@addisonlozada2458]

Colors look warmer light is brighter less echo fuller voice audio with less ambient noise and that’s the truth

[@Aaron-ni2eu]

I'm not getting one, the price / performance just isn't there. This is a 'STUDIO' display and therefore meant for professionals and it doesn't meet many professional requirements. The advances in display tech including; 10 bit colour depth, colour consistency, HDR, local dimming, higher refresh rates etc.... all add up to make real benefits for a professional user, just comparing it to a MacBook pro xdr pro-motion display shows this only too well, especially when your looking at a display 8+ hours a day, every day! No, What this is, is a really really nice home monitor for non-professionals and I'm sure apple knows this. Why have centerstage on a business monitor! The last thing you want in a business environment is the camera panning around an office showing things it shouldn't, you need that cam fixed on you and only you! I'd love you to do a large comparison of displays with 4K USB-C monitors, the likes of BenQ, Dell, Huawei, and many others, to see if there is an up to date option at the same or lower cost than the Apple studio display (enough of the 5K LG UltraFine comparisons) which is basically the same monitor.

[@JonatanCastro-secondary]

"it's natively 2x resolution" FINALLY a reviewer that understand our struggle, thanks Rene!

[@pokiblue5870]

2k$ display and no 120hertz refresh rate 🤕

[@MemeScreen]

I don’t understand the 2x resolution thing entirely. I get what upscaling is and how it works, but I don’t understand how it applies to MacOS and 5k monitors.

[@VaiRostampour]

Could you elaborate on this please, I remember when I tried to scale the Mac mini to native resolution on my 27in 4K display it looked fuzzy and nowhere near as clear as on windows. I thought it was down to the font apple was using.

[@haphazard1342]

Maybe they should have thought of that when they nuked subpixel antialiasing.

[@panzer_TZ]

I completely understand the 5k being 2x 1440p struggle. However, I just don't find that slightly better scaling to be worth an extra $600-$1000. With that said, Apple knows plenty of people will pay it, so it is what it is. Definitely disappointed, but I just can't justify $1600 for what you're getting. The fact that height adjustment alone is $400 just bonkers to me.

[@super_hero2]

Actually the 27 iMac came with mouse and keyboard, if you factor those in, the Studio Display is more expensive than the iMacs.

[@ReneRitchie]

Fair!

[@PeterbFree]

This is 100% this issue. No computer, no keyboard, no mouse. Where is the price reduction that matches the absence of these expensive items?

[@super_hero2]

@@PeterbFree yea they put a bunch of techs nobody need in a display and sell it at the price of an iMac which is ridiculous. The display itself is 6 years old, there are plenty of better monitor displays at $1000 out there.

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

But comes with A13 😬

[@SteveBoyer10]

Excellent point. At this thickness they should have stuck an M1 in there instead of the A13, added some fans, a wifi chip and a few more ports and called it an iMac. And it would have come with a keyboard and mouse!

[@phbrinsden]

I remember gasping when I purchased the cinema screen 11 years ago but it has been perfect for all that time and powers my MBA. It was $1000 back then and the new Studio is no more expensive in constant value dollars. With my major refresh I am sticking with Apple Studio. It has no compromises with everything built in, 5k for Mac OS and beautiful engineering. It will be great for the next 10 years.

[@st0rmchild]

I'm one of those people who was begging Apple for years to just take the iMac 5K panel and make a standalone display. Exactly what I wanted. I'll be buying one soon.

[@mikesilverii7535]

Yeah I’ve been begging for this. But I’m a bit spoiled now by the new MacBook Pro displays. I still bought a Studio Display anyways. It still looks great.

[@kristoferkline9522]

@@superkoopatrooper4879 Also going for the build quality. Look up all the build issues with the LG monitor. I’ve personally gone through 3 of them because the ports can pull out over time and become useless.

[@equitek]

I love it, I got mine on Friday.

[@steveg219]

How was the LG Ultra Fine not the same as the 5k iMac display?

[@st0rmchild]

@@superkoopatrooper4879 I know it's the same panel. I'm looking at the exact same panel right now in my iMac 5K (late 2015). I want the case around it to be good, not wobbly plastic junk. BTW, the price is $1599.

[@donalone]

Why other manufactures can't do design as simple as this? Because no other monitor makers will be crazy enough to CNC the whole display housing out of a big chunk of aluminium, that's what only Apple can do. As simple as that.

[@bugged1212]

Not just mac nerd, I am a developer/designer and I want the designs to be pixel perfect and color perfect. At $2100 here in India, that's a steal for me. There's no alternatives.

[@tyrellwellick5152]

Cap

[@epcalderhead]

Went to the Apple Store today and looked an this monitor hooked up to a Mac Mini. I thought this display with a Mac Mini or a Mac Studio Max was a potential upgrade to my iMac Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015. Now I'm not too keen to jump and will probably keep using the iMac for a while longer. I'm not seeing enough gains to justify the expense for what I do. That shocked me for a 7-year-old computer.

[@user73958]

I just traded in the same iMac today. It was my favorite computer I have ever had. If I could use it as a stand alone monitor, I would have kept it, but my new setup needs a dedicated monitor. I was debating getting a Mac Studio, but went with a Macbook Pro M1 instead as the Studio would have been overkill for what I do.

[@aytangonulsen2969]

@@user73958 u can use iMacs as a display which have been produced before 2015, they are not 5k but still can be use as a display via thunderbolt port for any mac, colours are not as same as 5k iMacs but still can used 3rd or 4th display for preview. I have been use this 2xiMacs setup since 2019, it s quite handy. Switch it and use as a display and switch back and use as an stand alone iMac. And they are really cheap these days compare with these new mac price tags

[@mopnem]

@@aytangonulsen2969 He doesn’t really want to keep his iMac, it’s just a buyers reasoning statement. I mean he bought old tech for a premium price, so pretty much all you need to know.

[@aytangonulsen2969]

@@mopnem the funny thing is u can still use an old iMac as a display with fancy Mac Studio and its just very useful, same screen 2 different computers, altough I use it with mac mini for a while. I think these imacs are great for headless macs

[@aimson]

I have the same one and it is an amazing machine. Worth every penny being fully maxed out.

[@valzartsetc5359]

There is a big issue with the display that reviews have not yet addressed. No its not the unacceptably horrendous webcam. The issue is that the monitor runs its own operating system (IOS) to manage the camera, microphone and speakers. Like any device running a consumer based operating system, it can't be run indefinitely without restarting it or you run into issues. If you don't restart your iPad or iPhone for weeks or months you will eventually experience all kind of issues. I got my studio display on March 18. yesterday my camera started acting up, then the microphone and speakers would stop working sporadically. After hours with Apple support it was determined the monitor needs to restart. BUT there is no way to do it, it has no power button and no way to actuality shut it down or reboot/restart properly. So the only way to do restart the display is to unplug it from the power source for a minute and plug it back in. We did so and its working fine again. However, doing it that way means you are crashing the build-in OS rather than properly restarting it. That of course can potentially damage the display just like crashing your computer every time you want to restart it.

[@MoonShadeStuff]

I think the monitor will handle being disconnected from power. There are a lot of electronic devices where, when they experience problems, it’s advised to disconnect them for seconds to minutes and plug them back in. What you’re describing doesn’t seem concerning to me.

[@pandaghostofficial]

And yet we live in a world where at least 80% of people still uses 1080p monitors

[@fbkensarhd5279]

Because they don't sit 3 inches from their monitor to notice the pixels.

[@harryseaward3408]

Excellent review. I think you hit it on the head that Apple is prioritizing the Centerstage functionality over a sharper - but static - webcam. I’m not sure that was the best play on a non-portable device, tho. I love Centerstage on my iPad Pro because I can set it anywhere and the camera just centers on me. But a big 27" display? It is just always going to be planted directly in front of my chair. Who is using a Studio Display while cooking dinner or working in the garage?

[@incredibilistic]

Agreed. I could see the M1 iMac having Center Stage but the Studio Display seems to be more for pro environments, who are people that are less likely to want or even care about such a feature since they'll more than likely be working solo anyway. To borrow a phrase from Brian Tong, it's a "bad apple" when Apple's charging $1,600 for a display with a "meh" web cam. That said, if the web cam was pixel and picture perfect and the adjustable stand wasn't a $400 premium, few if any would have an issue. In a perfect world the Studio Display would be $999 with a $400 stand option that has both height adjustment and rotation. Or charge $1,599 with all of that and $999 for a VESA-only option. I don't often scoff at Apple's pricing schema because I believe in the value they bring over competitive products and while I have every intention of buying the Studio Display and a Mac Studio I'm not thrilled about the Studio Display's price. I feel like this is one product Apple could've priced lower and still made a killing on.

[@RabianskiT]

@@incredibilistic Many good points. Personally, I’m disappointed with this display. I guess, I will have to wait for Mini-LED versions (that will hopefully have detachable cable or mag safe power chord).

[@tyrellwellick5152]

D riding

[@SimonLYW]

@@RabianskiT I hope they don’t add MagSafe to it. I still use the thunderbolt displays and having MagSafe just hanging there doing nothing is mildly annoying.

[@RabianskiT]

@@SimonLYW I guess the standard detachable chord would be the best. No need to reinvent the wheel here.

[@RabianskiT]

The fact that this display has a BUILT-IN power chord really REALLY GETS ON MY NERVES.

[@keesswier212]

How often do you move a monitor and how often does a power cable break? I never move my monitor and my power cable from any product has never broken.

[@RabianskiT]

@@keesswier212 I move/ exchange my monitors and I had troubles with power cables before. Also, it’s nice if you can change the length of a cable to suit your needs.

[@keesswier212]

@@RabianskiT In your case, it is therefore wise not to opt for the Studio Display. Apple will release a new display next year. Maybe that's for you. That display will in any case be more expensive than the Studio Display, but it does meet your needs.

[@RabianskiT]

@@keesswier212 You’re right. I’m just disappointed that Apple made Studio Display such a niche product.

[@keesswier212]

@@RabianskiT I don't know if this makes you any less disappointed, but a lot of people have a love-hate relationship with Apple, myself included. They make unbelievably beautiful products, but the decisions they make to take more money out of your pocket anger many people. Ultimately, Apple will lose if they continue this way of doing business.

[@michaelbabiuk8758]

On Friday, I visited my local Apple Store and had "eyes on" time with the Studio Display. Because they were out of stock, I could not take one home with me at that time. But when I returned home, I did go online and placed an order for the $1600 model. It should arrive around April 11th. Would I have enjoyed Pro Motion capability? Absolutely. (Personally, I value Pro Motion capability above HDR capability on the desirability scale - especially on a display with a sustained 600 nit brightness level rating.) Still, I mainly deal in photography and image editing and processing so 60 Hz is perfectly acceptable to me in a display. What I do insist on is clarity, sharpness and color accuracy characteristics in a display and the Studio Display has those qualities in "spades".

[@robertleidner9703]

I have the ultrafine 5k and when I saw the studio display in store, it was instantly and noticeably better. Now I want a new companion to my M1 MacBook Pro.

[@roderickmclean9927]

Oh no……… stop it!

[@RyanHicks306]

I am super on the fence on this. I did order the Studio Display two weeks ago and it is supposed to ship soon. While I have been waiting, I have been checking out reviews and alternatives. On specs, there seems like there are so many "good enough" options (LG, Dell, etc). I did go out and have a look at those and in-person with my own eyes it is clear that there is a huge difference in monitors. Not that the alternatives are bad, but they are not that good. Plastic bodies and displays that are "okay". While cheaper, a close to $1000 display with not great graphics is disappointing. The Studio Display costs more, but it is a far superior product. I have and love the display on the new MacBook Pro (it is stunning!) so my eyes are used to really good displays. Hypothetically, if Apple did release an LED, blah, blah, blah (closer to the MacBook Pro display, but in 27 or 32 inches) I don't think I could justify the price. While there is a lot to knock, I think this display is going to be a perfect compliment to my workflow for music, photography and video production.

[@user-ry8dr4uo9o]

Did you end up keeping it?

[@tadmailander8134]

You should have mentioned what other monitors were worthy of consideration and compared them by price and features.

[@SnowWhite-dr6xh]

Other display ugly, apple display beautiful. There i did it for you.

[@akyhne]

Other displays better quality and better features for lower price. There, I did it for you.

[@koriecull]

Does the studio display work with other devices via usb-c converter? PS5, Xbox, PC etc?

[@zachw566]

I’m disappointed you did not mention Apple’s absolutely baffling choice to hardwire (except not really?) the power cable

[@kane4013]

I was waiting for this too. It sounded like it was a rush to get this video made after his Mac Studio review so maybe he just doesn’t know?

[@exxon9278]

Technically it’s removable but there exists nothing on the market to replace it with.

[@tyrellwellick5152]

Intentional ommision, everyone know why.

[@davidashley4386]

I think there’s more people out there that would’ve paid 2k + for an all in one 27 inch m1 iMac. I’m one of them, I’ll pass for now.

[@Mr80Elky]

Nothing has ever compared to my 5k iMac’s screen to me… None of my friends understand me.

[@robertleidner9703]

I went 4K after my 5k iMac went bust and bought a laptop. Returned it right away and got the LG 5k.

[@nihilistsre]

The not-matching-display thing is REAL. Not even as much about iPhone and stuff, but putting your monitor next to your Macbook whne your monitor doesn't match the mac -- it does drive me bonkers.

[@ReneRitchie]

Same! Which is why I think Apple nerds wanted this?

[@sandeepsajeev6048]

We run about 40 macs in our studio. The idea that Mac displays match is a total myth.

[@sarge-ot9uc]

Price is unjustified. The centerstge is pointless for a display that is going to sit static on a desk. Not sure what the point of having a A13 Bionic inside is (probably defective chips re being used here). Also, these studio displays cannot be daisy chained. You have to connect each individual display to each individual port on the Mac/MacBook. At this price, there are much much much better displays on the market. Extra 400 just for a stand to be able to tilt?? Unless someone is a die hard fan that only fancies Apple products, not sure how someone can justify buying this.

[@oliver.n278]

Do you know any Monitors with daisy chain functionality that work on mac? They seem rare. Plus, with 218ppi-Resolution there is unfortunatley no competition.

[@petereriksson6760]

Wanted 120hz… especially at this price… might still get one. Really annoyed with the stupid power cable. There is NO reason to not use a standard removable plug. Sure, a MagSafe cable would have been cool but not strictly needed. D!€k move by Apple…

[@MemeScreen]

Same, I already canceled and purchased an Eve spectrum instead. It is not 5k, but it has a sleek profile and integer scaling.

[@FlyingArtz.]

Yeah just wack

[@rtkrum]

With the standard tilt-adjustable stand, how high is the bottom edge of the active display pixels? My 27" displays must line up across my desk! Open space between the desktop and the bottom of the display? None of Apple's specs show this dimension. How can I know if I want the height adjustable stand if they don't tell us how high the standard stand is?

[@frenchpressfinance]

Wonder why they couldn't do a VESA mount kit like they offered for the 2017 iMac Pro...

[@ReneRitchie]

Same! Being able to swap would have been helpful

[@jtsyrja]

It seems that you actually can go to Apple store to get the stand changed for height adjustable or for the vesa mount.

[@dannywinget]

Man I am disappointed that two studio displays don’t play audio together. I might cancel my orders 🥲

[@ReneRitchie]

Might be able to do that with Rogue Amoeba software?

[@pandaghostofficial]

@@ReneRitchie definitely, you can combine multiple output sources with that software and use your keyboard volume controls as well as if it’s just one device

[@cloutierhaker]

You forgot to mention the fact that the power cable isn’t removable. Not a big w for user replaceable parts.

[@Dreamwriter4242]

It is actually removable - it's just not designed to be *easily* removable. It requires a lot of force - Linus did it on his Friday stream "WAN Show" (he was willing to damage the device in his experiment, so he didn't hold back).

[@impatrickt]

You can remove it.

[@D_L_J_83]

This would have been a no-brainer for me if it had a standard HDMI input as well for a photo studio environment

[@fbkensarhd5279]

Dongles.

[@JoeTourist]

I fully intended to wait for a minLED Apple display, but today I weakened and ordered the Studio Display. It might have had something to do with me selling my 27" iMac, but then again, I fit that Apple user profile you talked about! 🤓

[@Shionjisama]

Why would apple release such a thing may I ask? XDR pro display is here for more than two years. You dont need to wait you can buy one right now

[@keesswier212]

You don't get miniLED and HDR at Apple in this price range. You have to go to other manufacturers for that. If you like extremely beautiful minimalistic design, aluminum material and fantastic build quality, then Apple is the place to be.

[@johnbutler2750]

Feels like they had the idea to build a quality mic speaker and camera in to a display which would compare to a dedicated one, then decided to cut back at the last minute so they had something for the Pro version

[@muhdict2224]

2:03, but 1440p gaming display will also offer pixel perfect picture without scaling issues (low res on the other hand, in comparison with 5k or else, is another matter)

[@Canon1DMkII]

Apple could have delivered value here but chose instead to deliver a display with a bloated price tag, particularly if you desire an adjustable stand (everyone).

[@jellyphase]

@@mramg6038 It does not have a vesa mount, so you have to use the Apple provided one

[@Ed_Mann]

@@jellyphase of course! WhatsApp,e excels at more than anything is kicking cult members in the ribs while they’re down.

[@nathanmielke1977]

$1600 for a monitor is just stupid. The market for one of these displays are high level professionals and people with more money than brains. I am so pissed that Apple axed the 27" iMac too... We're going to be in for a long winter until Apple fixes itself. This is serious Apple Tax. This monitor should be $1000. ... I just can't even...

[@akyhne]

Not sure what you mean by "high level professionals". But if you think this or the XDR can be used for color critical Hollywood production, think again! They aren't even close!

[@bobsykes]

I'd agree that the color calibration and sort of industry standard apple has established makes a difference. Not only does anyting I share on line look the same as I saw it on any other Apple device, but if I send a digital file to be printed at a professional photo printing shop, it is effortless. I just tell them 'm using whatever specific Apple display at factory calibration, and I get back a print on paper that color matches exeactly what I saw on my screen. That is a huge advantage.

[@winky225]

The truth that is not being said here is that consumers asked for that half a decade ago… the monitor improvements to the 5K mac are the lowest bar Apple has probably ever strived to reach. No one is asking for older technology, I promise. The justification that Apple nerds will buy this because they don’t want to own outside of Apple is also a lazy excuse, I’m sure Apple is expecting this monitor to sell to mainstream, treat it as such compared to the rest of the competition. Some new (not new monitor related) features were added… that’s fine. One is a hit (speakers), one is a miss (webcam) and one is cool to have but also why, in the grand scheme? (A13 processor). $1,599… an insane price for a bare minimum monitor revisit, with a few sprinkles of side tech. It’s sad to even anticipate the mini LEDs market price if this is Apple’s low tier monitor. A side note: Trying to make consumers happy about their purchase, rather than lean into a product’s shortcomings at Apple’s price points, doesn’t really help technology get pushed forward. Also, trying to convey that no matter the tech inside, you’re always going to want something better anyway, is another quick dismissal at an otherwise opportune moment to judge a product off it’s real value compared to what’s being advertised and sold to hard earning consumers. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ReneRitchie]

Nothing has changed in 6 years though. There haven't been any monitor improvements that would meaningful for this spec at this price. You still can't transit high frame rate over Thunderbolt 4, and at 600 nits, you're getting better HDR than many so-called HDR panels, and to get better you'd need OLED or Mini-LED which no one has marketed at 5K yet... so?

[@winky225]

@@ReneRitchie respectfully, those are all constraints that I understand and do not know how to solve. Apple chose to not solve those issues here either. So if they can’t because “current capabilities” then that’s fine but should charging $300 more for 2/3s of better features along with 600 nits be the answer? Also, I can’t stress enough how the quality of that webcam, as it stands, can be included in the conversation of “look, they added more than just screen” to justify the price. My larger question to this product is why does it exist if a better version from Apple is on the way soonish (according to rumors), and at this price point? It’s overpriced. The sad thing is that consumers will look at the Studio Display as a bargain when they see the “Studio Display Pro” and what it costs, bringing in the real features everyone (including Apple nerds) wants today not 5 years ago. Which when looking at it from a sobering point of view, explains why the Studio Display exists. Just to see how far they can push it when keeping those prices high, and creating new product categories. It’s not solely because “Apple wants to use premium parts and features” to justify their prices in this case, isn’t it? 😕

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

@@winky225 the better version will cost closer to $2500-3000 and $4999 😬

[@winky225]

@Richard Gleaves Imagine if your argument actually held any merit to any of the consumer based complaints I’ve made. You might actually come off as someone with a valid opinion, instead of a KZbin comment hater. Nice to see people who still enjoy insulting other humans online, stay classy.

[@akyhne]

ASUS PA27UCX-K Released in 2020 4K HDR10 Dolby Vision 1000 nits 27" True 10-bit Hardware calibration +500 local dimming zones More expensive than the Studio Display when it came out. Now much cheaper and runs around corners with the SD. Apple could have chosen to make something like this. They chose not to. Saying there has been no improvements in 6 years, is just incorrect.

[@Kylefassbinderful]

I've had the same 5K iMac since 2017 and I still think pictures and videos/movies look fantastic. Obviously not as good as a HDR display but at the same time I don't watch enough content that would take advantage of higher dynamic range tech. I'd rather see a higher frame rate than a wider contrast ratio. All in all, I love this display and it'll probably hold me over for another couple years.

[@danielemilazzo432]

accurate colours are important for printing, I think you still need to calibrate your monitor with an external device that can then colour match accurately. I think as usual Apple is probably using a LG monitor and made it premium.

[@sonicvboom]

How may one calibrate one's monitor with an external device?

[@babbit_janeway]

"From the company that made changing watch bands eight times a day a thing." You have no idea how much I hated myself for relating to this, Rene xD

[@aa1979]

2:13 A wild Dalrymple appears

[@exxon9278]

No actual HDR, non removable power cable, no stand swapping, no daisy chain…. The A13 does not use the airplay features… There are so many cheaper options. I really wanted to love this but for some audio and camera that I am getting from my Mac it’s not worth it

[@haphazard1342]

It's not even Thunderbolt 4, only 3. And no daisy chain. Ugh.

[@markjob6354]

*Most professional film makers who are working in the day to day commercial, cable TV Network, and industrial/freelance sector don't work in an HDR workflow. HDR is still pretty much considered to be a (specialty) delivery - special order type of production. The majority of work is still acquired and delivered in a Rec.709 image workspace. Even at best, HLG is the prefered route, since it can be derived from Rec. 709 sources and re-processed by shooting in a special Rec.709 Log. This is why it's called (Hybrid) (Log) Gamma. You acquire in a standard Rec. 709 and produce and deliver a compatible delivery which behaves almost identically to an HDR Gamma Curve. The BBC in England do a bit of HLG since doing so looks great on traditional rec.709 and HDR screens alike 👌What pro editors and colorists look for in a professional quality monitor is (Color Precision), (10 Bit Color Depth), and (High Screen Rosolution of 6K). Soon, with the advent of 8K Broadcast TV, accurate 8K resolution monitors will become essential. 8 Bit color depth screens, simply cannot provide the color reproduction depth and accuracy commercial print and cinema movie colorists must have in order to do their jobs properly.*

[@markjob6354]

@@shameermulji Yup. All I'm saying is this other Mac Studio Monitor isn't good enough to justify it's premium price tag. The Pro XDR (Apart from it's rediculously overpriced and not so great stand) Monitor is good enough.

[@kasterborous1701]

+10 points for Babylon 5 reference.

[@pennymakberg]

What monitor would you recommend for photography?

[@kason9194]

Would this work with a PlayStation or Switch?

[@ReneRitchie]

It should work as a bare panel with anything that can output to Thunderbolt, but probably not as good for them as a 4K TV?

[@rewanji]

That fixed power cord, though… and the lack of real cable management.

[@haphazard1342]

And the lack of Thunderbolt 4 and the lack of daisy chaining. This thing is almost useless as a docking station.

[@jtamagini]

No thoughts on the non removable power cord? Seems like a glaring Apple design oversight. I mean what if you have a pet that like to chew stuff and gets at your cord now you have to bring your panel to an Apple Store 🤣

[@techboss202]

Why didn’t they use MagSafe for the power cord? Seems like they wasted time and engineering on a non user replaceable cord to increase manufacturing cost when they already had a solution for the M1 iMac.

[@ChristianAlmeidabr]

The problem is the PRICE!

[@ReneRitchie]

There are a ton of cheaper displays on the market, the people who wanted this type of display wanted this type of display and know the price (LG 5K UltraFine + better build quality/materials + Apple features via A13), no?

[@JeanSamyr]

My biggest concern with this Display is the powerchord. My cats like to chew some cables.

[@pep98]

Hello Rene. Maybe a stupid question, but here it is. I have a Imac from 2011 and a 5K Imac. After i bought the M1 mac mini, they are just kind of standing there. Is there a possibillity, and if yes how, to use the Imac's as just a monitor on the mac mini? Instead of buying the new studio display?

[@djsnowpdx]

If Apple could do mini LED for $1099 on the iPad Pro 11 months ago, why is similar technology unobtanium in Apple Displays about 16”? I mean, I know the supply chain is off, and displays are hard to source at the best of times. I want the Studio Display to be for me. I’d use the features, maybe even remove my computer speaker system, desktop microphone, and janky phone-based emergency webcam, but the features of this panel are really getting me down, owning as I do a mini LED MacBook and iPad

[@ReneRitchie]

Yeah, also scaling can be hard. Bigger OLED panels (not TVs, which use a different implementation) get issues with yield and consistency at bigger sizes. Mini-LED at 27-inches will take much more supply, and be much more expensive, than at 16-inches, at least for a good while

[@VIDDTHEDESIGNER]

for some reason he was going in circles and made my head heart

[@EnyiohaIkeAmaechi]

I think I might choose the more dollar savvy route and find a used LG Ultrafine 5k

[@Queldonus]

Put your hands on one first. They feel flimsy in my hands, and I can't trust them to last.

[@EnyiohaIkeAmaechi]

@@Queldonus I wouldn't need to feel it after I vesa mount it lol. Every monitor I've used has been plastic. I'm currently on a 1440p Dell ultrasharp so it's an upgrade regardless.

[@KalphosZeromar]

@@Queldonus they seem to have lasted so far plus a fancy enclosure doesn’t mean anything in terms of internal component quality and long term usage

[@jayg339]

I think they shouldve added an hdmi port so it couldve been used as just a regular monitor as well without thunderbolt. Also, given it has an A13 chip in it, I think it would be cool if they put tvOS on the Studio Display. It would make a cool little Apple Tv display to use from time to time and would have a nice level of integration between the color calibration, movies, and dolby atmos/spatial audio. Its interesting because at first I thought this display was absurd being priced at 1600, but now that Ive looked around at all the other displays available, it is difficult to find a display of the quality of the studio display at 600 nits at all. Most monitors top out at only 350-400 nits. The specs of the monitor don't jump off the screen, but if you've used one of the recent iMac displays(then add 100 nits brightness) you would understand how much higher quality those displays are versus the other monitors on the market.

[@jayg339]

@Aziz Rahman well that’s the thing I actually wonder - will an hdmi input actually work through an adapter. I get the feeling apple probably made it so it only works through thunderbolt

[@ClassicCyclingCC]

My take of the Apple Studio display after 1 month for what it is worth. It’s probably the best monitor you can buy if you have a M1 MacBook Pro or a Mac Studio. If you can afford it, go for it. If not, there are good and cheaper alternatives out there but be aware that none of them will have the screen brightness, the build quality, nor the smooth and trouble free compatibility that comes with the studio display.

[@joyboy6535]

So how good is this display against LG’s 2022 C2 42 inch OLED Monitor?

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

You put a 42in display 2ft in front of your face? Does your neck hurt?

[@joyboy6535]

@@RunForPeace-hk1cu nop that 144hz 4k OLEd glory made my neck straight

[@KevinMillard68]

i have HD Rin both my 2k LG monitors that also run in 4k as well on my mac m1s and my PC and they only cost me 328.00 each at walmart here in canada i also get 114 htz at 2k and 60 htz at 4k and on my pc these screens run native 165 htz 2k and i cant recall off hand at 4k and they can do 5k with the video card i have on my pc

[@A8004870]

what is the height/distance between apple studio display with tilt-adjustable stand bottom of screen and stand?

[@sloppynyuszi]

I don’t know. It costs more than an iMac and that’s a full computer with screen not being a $1000 worse. It would be cool if Apple had a descent $1000 monitor that could hook up to a Mac mini. It would be easier to upgrade and still have a pure Mac experience. But that monitor as is, it’s still over priced, and I get the criticism.

[@mavsguy842]

I don’t understand the single input, and being TB4 at that. If I want to use a Studio Display with two computers what can I do that doesn’t involve constantly swapping cables every time I switch between computers? I haven’t found any TB4 switches, but can find plenty of DisplayPort or HDMI switches. It would better to have multiple inputs, but I could easily live with hitting a button every time I wanted to switch between machines.

[@michelraffin7006]

What about the nano texture?

[@funcatalogue]

They did this to kill the cord on purpose. They expect that when it starts to fray like the apple iphone chargers, where it frays at the soft to hard joint, people will just buy a new monitor. They are trying to install a life expectancy into their products so you have to replace and rebuy new stuff.

[@codechannel528]

Apple should’ve included the MagSafe cord, but How likely is it that the cord will be damaged. Almost no chance of that happening and if it doeS, it can be replaced by Apple. This is a non issue

[@Alpha8713]

@@codechannel528 The non-removable power cord makes it much harder to move the monitor if the cord is, say, zip-tied to the desk. With a normal monitor, the user can unplug the power cord, move the monitor, and use a new one at the new location. With this design, that becomes impossible. I agree that power cords rarely fail, but, in this case, the design makes the product unnecessarily inconvenient to use, with zero benefit for the user.

[@impatrickt]

this is my favourite video you've uploaded

[@ReneRitchie]

Awww, thank you so much Patrick!

[@michaellatta]

How does this compare to an OLED like the C2?

[@JarrydHall]

12:37 You’ve got a rogue colour correction power window. :)

[@Brolicherbs]

The lack of target display in the 5k imacs is so painful.

[@BrandonDudley]

I seriously don’t understand people who expect a display at this price point to include HDR, MiniLED, and 120hz. Does this display REALLY cost $1599? Probably not, but if Apple included all the things they want in the ProDisplay XDR, it would be way more expensive.

[@codygaul3341]

It's because there are monitors currently out there that have better displays for cheaper price points than this. This studio display should at most cost 1k. It makes no sense otherwise.

[@BrandonDudley]

@@codygaul3341 I'm not sure you could really find a better 5k display out there, even at this price point. I agree the display should be closer to $1,000, but you're also paying for more than just the panel; the A13 chip, 64gb of onboard storage, speakers, etc.

[@dornie_donko]

If you make it, they will whine.

[@WhittyPics]

I am sure the build quality is better than anything out there, but if I pair this with a Studio computer, I am paying a lot more than I would for an iMac. I will wait and see what they do with a higher end Mac Mini. I may go with that. I still think we will see a bigger iMac next year. The M1 Pro is plenty for me. I really don't need the Max chip

[@Moon-uj8kw]

no word on standard vs nano-texture... which one to buy?

[@jooplin]

This is actually really bad, I was kinda hyped for this, but 5k is the only feature of this monitor, you get a high quality 4k one and it outclasses this display in any way and you can use a vesa mount and have a removable cable + HDR + 120Hz + etc.

[@oliver.n278]

Still for many people its all about resolution. 163ppi (for example 4K LG 27") is simply way beyond 218 ppi (Apple Studio Monitor). In the end 5K is almost double the pixels of 4K.

[@akyhne]

​@@oliver.n278I'm sorry, but it doesn't matter how many more pixels you get on your screen. You get a roughly 20-25% higher puxel density vertically and horizontally. And that's what your eyes see. So very negligible difference!

[@kreigerbailey3550]

Portland, JAMAICA in The Building !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@ReneRitchie]

Hi from Montreal!

[@supersnail5000]

I think a big and fair complaint is lack of compatibility outside of the apple ecosystem. The lack of other inputs or full support for Windows/Linux machines makes this monitor not only less flexible (even for users with multiple devices) but less sustainable as it requires users to have multiple displays for things like consoles or second machines, and will be less useful to non-apple users at the end of its life. This combined with the pseudo-non-removable cable really isn't a good look for apple. It's the thing I dislike most with current apple. Theyre all for sustainability where it benefits them, but when it's people questioning why they need an M1 iPad AND an M1 Mac to run final cut and procreate, sustainability stops mattering. They're actively making products worse and less sustainable to facilitate their ecosystem

[@ReneRitchie]

That's fair, although there are plenty of other displays that do that and this is what Mac nerds specifically wanted?

[@Dinosareformen]

could it be used with my nintendo switch?

[@knightsofazeroth]

I don't really get the hate for this monitor. There are few if any competitors in the 5k range the most notably the LG Ultrafine 5K but it has been very iffy quality wise. I can tell you Apple has probably procured the top spec and tightest tolerance panels of the 5K, quite possibly made adjustments to power supplies and most definitely in firmware. Put it in a better enclosure added better speakers and webcam and really for the price, quite possibly due to having LG make the Ultrafine for the Mac having to price it slightly higher due to a competion clause in a contract. Everyone wants it to be a 32" 5K mini LED with 120HZ refresh rate with all the bell and whistles in the same or bezel less enclosure but the cheapest monitor with those specs is $2600 Can. If I was just a average person or a photo or print professional I would have no problem shelling out the $$$ for it. But alas I do enjoy gaming and other stuff which requires a faster refresh rate on my Mac so Ill be waiting for that monitor to come out before I purchases my Mac Studio and also the display

[@johnaart]

I understand the hate... There are a lot of monitors out there with comparable displays specs... Yes 4k not 5k...which come with a height and rotation stand... That are a lot cheaper.... And this monitor is almost same price as the imac 27 which had a computer inside and this is just a monitor... So i really understand the understand the hate.... But if if you want to go apple... This is your very best option. I for 1 went with an LG monitor... Did not see a need to pay more for this monitor ... Will be getting the mac studio

[@StrangerNoises]

@@johnaart 4K not 5K *is* the whole problem. If you have good eyesight, 4K at 27" is *blurry*.

[@johnaart]

@@StrangerNoises Are you being serious? 4k at 27 inch is blurry? I just put my nose to my monitor and text is rasor sharp... Which monitor were you looking at?

[@StrangerNoises]

@@johnaart Dell P2715Q. But 4K at 27" is 4K at 27", it's just inevitably 163ppi whoever's making it, and that's not enough, compared with 218ppi for the 5K. And yes, I can see the difference, it's harder on my eyes - even in the @2x "Looks like 1920 x 1080" default mode. But I had mine next to my 5K iMac, in the "Looks like 2560 x 1440" scaled mode so it matched... and it's blurry. Headache-inducingly blurry. I can only use it as a second "glance-across" screen, and pull windows to the main one to actually pay attention to it. In the end I couldn't stand it (and besides I'd bought a 14" MBP) and am now using a Dell P2415Q in preference. That is 4K at 24", which is still not full "retina" resolution, but it's closer. Which is probably why no-one makes 4K screens at that size any more. On that screen macOS actually offers a "Looks like 2304 x 1296" scaled mode which has the right metrics and still looks reasonably sharp. That's why I'd have been equally happy with the 4.5K screen from the iMac 24. (Especially if it cost a bit less!) Pixel density. Is. Everything 😀 But seriously it's obvious people have priorities based on what they want to use it for, and what their own eyesight is like. For some, colour accuracy is critical, and P3 SDR is not sufficient; for some, high refresh rates are critical and 60Hz is just ridiculously antiquated. For me, and probably everyone else buying it like someone who's staggered across the desert to fall at the shore of an oasis, it's pixel density, and no-one else is doing it. No-one else is offering better than that 7-year-old 4K 27" screen of mine.

[@johnaart]

@@StrangerNoises Am still suprised that 4k on a 27inch is blurry... 1440p mybe.. And i would say blurry... You can see the pixels if you sit really close to the monitor... But 4k is very clean... I use it with my macbook and dell xps 15....and its amazing for both... And am a graphic designer for 15 years.. So color and resolution are everything to me.... I get it..People have different needs. Some people just want apple and nothing else... I wanted to get this new display but am disappointed by it.. If it had a computer inside or was cheaper i would consider it... I got a cheaper monitor with a matte display, and height and tilt stand which i ddnt have to pay more for... Will get the mac studio instead...That i am excited about

[@MikeRidesEU]

Beautiful looking display, but with samsung QDoled coming (Alienware for start), that technology is already outdated at this enormous price

[@MikeRidesEU]

@Aziz Rahman Quantum Dot LED using only blue (largely) green and red, no white led. The new technology from samsung. First display out is the Alienware 34”. Brighter than oled without the burning effect, and still the deep black.

[@mrz1342]

Eventually is it same or better than Enzo CG for re-touching and printing job? Thank you

Remembering the rumors from a few months ago, that Apple was planning a HomePod with a screen, I see this as a missed opportunity. If it only had the few extra componments (wifi, bluetooth, AirPlay2) then you can use it as HomePod even when your computer is off. It could even have been a FaceTime machine.

[@jameshogue123]

The extra 400 for the better stand is a real turnoff. Actually pissed me off. I’ll get over it and buy one later this year.

[@keesswier212]

It's a lot of money. Just save up like I did and then you will enjoy a fantastic monitor with a very nicely designed stand that you can adjust in height for years to come. The Studio Display then looks even more like the XDR Pro Display. You forget the cost once it's on your desk!

[@JDLNYC]

Stand should be magnetic so people can swap stands or vesa mount similar to pro display .

[@sharonb.9128]

Great video. At some point we need to acknowledge Apple gets the most illogical, inconsistent criticisms that exist in tech. Not “worst build quality in the car industry” Tesla or even “I’ll rob you blind” Nvidia. Apple is criticized for not having the fingerprint reader on the 13 AND for having it on the SE. They’re dragged for the Studio display being too expensive by many who purchased the $200 cheaper LG ultra fine with arguably worse build quality, 60hz, bad speakers and darker. It goes on and on. Some people will never be happy with anything Apple produces.

[@the_paranormal_factory1812]

You're pushing it too far..I'm an average apple guy, and I didn't like that the display is sold separately..I don't even have the separate lg version you're claiming most of us have(I have yet to see those that do have an lg version that are complaining about the separate display that apple just released)..I love the all in one, and would love to see that again with the new apple m1 ultra

[@clintmiller88]

Wait this monitor gent HDR?

Display is fine. It’s just too expensive for what it’s. Even for apple’s standards. You can buy a fully specced iMac for that money.

[@cell1540rol]

Why 2 Mac Studios connected to 1 display?

[@ReneRitchie]

I'm testing both the M1 Max and M1 Ultra!

Oh man you are so wrong about this. First of all I was waiting for new screen from apple and I was using imac 2017 5k so I’m really interested in this topic. Price - you could buy a whole computer (imac 5k base model for 1750 usd), it’s an old panel with old tech so it should cost around 800-1000 usd just for the screen. It’s not a bad consumer choice but it’s only good for sdr - rec 709, srgb content creation. Color work - It doesn’t cover adobe rgb for photography, it’s not accurate for dci-p3. It has the spec on the paper but I had to replace the panel 3x in my imac due to not even colors and eventually I gave up. It wasn’t bad for content consumption but it’s not good for critical work, even on basic lvl. No colorist would even think about using for work in dci-p3. It’s only good for viewing material to estimate general look not for accurate work. 5k res is nice though. Since it’s cheap old tech that apple used for many years it should be the choice for people who have basic needs like developers, music producers, basic content creators for around 800-1000 usd. It should be a complementary device for mac mini. For 1500-2000 usd they should offer a hdr screen 800 nits (maybe oled panel), 10 bit, 27 inch 5k. Something like lg c1 panel but with more ppi and 27 inch. That would be good complementary screen for macbook pro with mini led and iphone pro which shoot hdr video. Pro display xdr will be upgraded soon. It’s bigger, brighter and has bigger color accuracy so it’s still a different league.

Also after the conference I bought a dell screen u2723qe. The same spec, the same quality, the same 90w charging with one cable. It’s only 4k, have no speakers no webcam but it’s almost 1/3 of the price. Now I’m waiting for truly new screen from apple in 1500-2000usd price range.

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

Color work - how do you know the ASD is gonna be bad without check it out for yourself first? Sounds like you have already made a decision that it sucks before even taking a look at it. Like you said, the display has the specs, so give it a try and check it out

​@@RunForPeace-hk1cu it's the same panel as it was used in imac. I had 3 of those so my opinion is based on that. It's not a bad display just overpriced. I've just sold my 2017 imac with the same display for ~1600USD, and base ASD cost ~1904 USD with tax... also as I said it is ok display for SRGB, REC 709 workflow with great DPI. Also it's not a complementary display for other apple products. You can shoot HDR on iphone 13 mini (699$), you can edit it on macbook pro 14 (2000$) but to view your content on a bigger screen you need to pay 6000$.... that's why I'm disappointed. In my opinion this screen should be called Apple Display and cost 800$ (+100$ for better stand). Next one would be Apple Studio Display 27 inch with HDR for 1600-2000$ and in the end would be Pro Display 32 inch 6K HDR with better specs like less blooming. I would gladly pay more for HDR or less for the same screen that I used.

​@@RunForPeace-hk1cu and one more thing. You can now buy new LG C1 OLED TV 4K 48 inch for around 1050$ which has no blooming, perfect contrast, "promotion" 120 hz, SOC, speakers etc... again 1904$ for old panel is just ridicules.

[@MemeScreen]

I don’t understand the 2x resolution thing entirely. I get what upscaling is and how it works, but I don’t understand how it applies to MacOS and 5k monitors. Do you have a video explaining this?

[@MemeScreen]

Do you mean the display has integer scaling? Other monitors like the Eve Spectrum have that, so I don’t know why a 5k screen is necessary.

[@euphospug]

can anyone tell me \what happens when this monitor is plugged into a Mac running an earlier OS? Catlina, Mavericks etc? Does it work at all? with less features? or completely black?

[@ghost-user559]

Good questions but I think it’s the year of the chip not the OS. Not every Mac that can run those OS can even drive 5k graphically or with the Thunderbolt bandwidth to drive the signal? So for a Mac with the same Thunderbolt port model and 5k capacity? Then yes, you can probably use any OS you want? But for a Mac that cannot even put out a 5k signal? Probably not.

[@euphospug]

@@ghost-user559 thanks for the reply - I have a 2019 iMac i9 - so I have a computer that CAN run the display. I just can't upgrade to Monterey (my accounting software is stuck in the stoneage :-) ) I'd just love to know if anyone has plugged into a computer with an older OS< otherwise it's an expensive experiment hahah

[@ReneRitchie]

It works like a basic monitor I believe. No special A13 features.

[@euphospug]

@@ReneRitchie thanks mate - that's what my instincts are telling me - but, Apple - I'd love some evidence of it working before dropping the A$2400 :-)

[@ghost-user559]

@@euphospug Actually I might have a solution that worked for me in the past, what OS are you in right now?

[@painter662]

I have seriously been trying to find a monitor with stats that match this Studio display or even come close to this Studio display. First find, 4K resolution is about as close as they come, unless you want to jump to an 8K TV usually 55’ or bigger. So OK, lets sacrifice a little resolution for Budgets sake… Then we hit thee Brightness question… 500nit seems to be the industry standard, that’s about 20% darker so we re now looking at bother 20% less resolution, and 20% less brightness. Next check color accuracy yah it can be found, But at this point you are looking at monitors that are generally starting at $1300.00 and are still 20% less. Seriously if you want something that is legitimately competitive with the studio monitor on Features you are looking at things that cost about $2000.00 and then their speakers flat out suck if they have any, and a camera? Not very likely good bad or indifferent. This Moniter really isn’t as out of line price wise as a lot of these reviewers want to make it sound, Or wait the rhuumors say… It’s Mac world… Rhumoors are right about half the time. and even if they are right, no one mentions rumors on price point… Te Edsel gave America everything it wanted, accept price… Apple already has a best in class Monitor, It only costs $6000.00 what you bet something that beats it might cost? Just trying to inject a little reality here.

[@BookClubDisaster]

Or LG's 27 inch 4K monitor. I might have sacrificed some PPI for OLED but guess how much that costs right now on Amazon? $2500. So yeah--high end monitors are expensive. And for people saying this is not high end, it's 5K! It's absolutely high end.

[@MichaelGrantPhD]

I am confused about something. Rene seems to be suggesting I *have* to accept scaling artifacts with 4K at 27". But I don't. I just do 1920x1080 with an exact 2x upscale. What am I missing? Thanks in advance

[@vtor]

Now your UI elements aren't sized the way Apple designed them to be.

[@MichaelGrantPhD]

@@vtor thanks for the reply! But that doesn't make sense to me if true. If Apple is that concerned about UI element height they would have to control how far we sit from our screens. Subjectively there is nothing wrong with my visual experience.

[@mmeiselph7234]

I wanted it, but don't want to pay that much. IMac - the mac part should be what, $1000?

[@swipekonme]

tldr: it's expensive for what it is, but at lower prices, the demand wouldn't be manageable

[@danielemilazzo432]

accurate colours are important for print, I think you still need to calibrate your monitor with an external device that can then match printing documents

[@nomasprime]

At last, a Mac commentator that not only knows what they're talking about but has on-point insight 🔥

[@RoguePC4U]

A wild theory: the Studio display was initially designed to be the new 27" iMac. But an inability to meet specific price points made Apple turn it into a standalone monitor instead. Looking at its odd build and engineering choices, this actually makes perfect sense. Maybe Rene should delve into this possibility?... would make an excellent video.

[@SimonLYW]

Presumably the display and a 27 inch iMac would be following the same design language so that they look right when placed next to each other. Same as the Apple Cinema Display/Thunderbolt Display and the old iMacs.

[@daniebello]

It’s just missing for me 120Hz, miniLED & HDR support

[@daniebello]

@productivity not that much, under $3,000 wouldn’t be bad

[@dsdddsd4543we]

I saw a lot of complaints about Pro Motion missing from the studio display, but knew that Thunderbolt 4 can’t support 5K 120hz. It can only support a single 4K 120hz panel. I’m thinking that Apple will have to engineer something really special to make 6K 120hz possible with the XDR display refresh.

[@KaizenOz]

Can they use two thunderbolt ports?

[@jarrodjob]

@@KaizenOz isn’t that what they did with the 30 inch cinema back in the day?

[@KaizenOz]

@@jarrodjob yep

[@Technocrat.]

Must be away to turn the A13 chip in the display to a mini display computer??

[@akyhne]

3:25 LED panels can be HDR. What are you talking about?!

[@llugdar]

Hi Rene, great review!! (As usual) Just a quick question… I’m still using my 5K LG Ultrafine and I love it. Do you see any reason for making the upgrade to the Studio Display? Thank you in advance!! Ariel

[@aronbijl4109]

If you ask me (as an electrical engineer), the answer is a resounding no.

[@Davo-ko2lt]

The LG display in the Studio Display is just a stop gap.That will be fixed with so to be released Thunderbolt 5. It seems pretty clear Apple intended to use a Pro-Motion variable rate mini-dot LED in the 27" Studio display - with multiple some solid sources saying the panel is already in production. The issue is as you mentioned Thunderbolt 4 doesn't support a 27" display running at 120hz. so impossible with Thunderbolt 4. However, a 27" iMac COULD use the mini-dot display, because the display would connect directed without Thunderbolt. But then, Apple would have an iMac with an awesome display - while the Studio display is stuck with an 8 year old 60hz LG panel with no local dimming, good but rather doggy when compared to a great mini-dot display (similar in quality to the one's being now used in the 14" and 16" MacBooks). Obviously, that would attract a lot negative criticism when the eye popping mini-dot iMac is compared to the old LG panel Studio Display - so Apple had no choice; use the old LG panel and delay the 27" iMac. As you said, the problem with the Thunderbolt 4's 60hz limit gets solved with Thunderbolt 5 which has double the bandwidth of Thunderbolt 4. Last week Intel's CEO accidentally leaked that Thunderbolt 5 spec was resolved when his tweet from Intel's Israel based Thunderbolt lab showed a poster on the wall with the final Thunderbolt 5 spec. That tweet was quickly deleted but not before it was screen shot. Apple HAD planned to have Intel 5 in this generation of Macs but Intel was (as always) a year behind. So, for the fall update, look for M2 chip upgrade, Thunderbolt 5 upgrade, Studio Display with upgraded with variable rate mini-dot panel, 27" mini-dot display iMac, and Mac Mini M2 Pro.

[@christianbelanger]

I'm happy I found this video! I bought an Apple Studio Display and a 2023 M2 MacBook Pro with 16-inch Liquid Retina XDR display. The whites on both displays are completely off: more red on the Studio Display, and more yellow on the MBP. When I compare with all the iPhones and iPads in the house, NOTHING looks alike. I'm curious: which Reference Mode are you using on your Studio Display? The default Apple Display (P3- 600 nits)? If so, are you using True Tone? If not, don't you feel like its D65 White Point is way too blue/red? If you're not using its default Reference Mode, which one are you using? Design & Print (P3-D50)? Photography (P3-D65)? Did you calibrate your Studio Display? If so, what device did you use? I bought the ColorChecker Display Pro, but I can't use it on my MBP because it's XDR! I've been living a pure 6000$ CAD nightmare for a month now. Please help! Thank you!