Replacing American Standard Champion 4 Toilet Flush Valve - 2 Piece Model

[@bayoustateoutdoors9650]

Be advised, if ur toilet is under 10 years old, call AS and they will send u a flush valve kit for free……I did buy a new tank to bowl gasket local

[@YouCanDIYHome]

Really? That’s great to know!

[@YouCanDIYHome]

Pinning your comment to the top…

[@bayoustateoutdoors9650]

@@YouCanDIYHome awesome thx, yes, I just changed mine today

[@rartyblart]

Thanks so much, Emily! Your vid helped me replace the old ghost-flushing (and wrong style) valve on our two part Champion 4 toilet successfully. The replacement valve is working beautifully! Your instructions were so clear and helpful; I appreciated how you showed the tank removal. I didn't have the plastic nut tightening device since our toilet was original to the home and installed who-knows-when, and I haven't found a source for them online yet. I hand-tightened the nuts as best as I could when reattaching the tank. My partner assisted to get the bolts tightened to stop the post-install leaking (STRONK hands!). In case it helps anyone else: when taking apart the toilet, avoid loosening the inner tank bolts. Keep that nice seal with the rubber washers. Or, if you do loosen those inner bolts, tighten the nuts for a secure seal while the tank is disassembled. Re-tightening those nuts directly under the tank is really tricky after the tank is reattached.

[@YouCanDIYHome]

I’m glad you guys got it taken care of, good job! And thanks for commenting!

[@milesharlan1]

Thank you.. I liked that you went over the spots that might leak now that you disturbed them. I do like your style & explaining things. I wish you could do more DIY videos. Keep Up The Good Work.

[@YouCanDIYHome]

Thank you so much for your kind comment!

[@johnd251]

Thanks for this detailed video. Watched a couple of times and really helped. The lock nut was difficult to remove as you noted and thought that plastic wrench was going to snap on me. I also bought the bowl kit to get a new green gasket.

[@YouCanDIYHome]

I’m glad you got it sorted. Thank you for comment!

[@Jake818H]

Thank you so much for your extremely helpful video. We needed to replace the entire flush valve and your video showed us exactly how to do it, step by step. The official valve replacement kit from American Standard at Lowe's did come with the big plastic wrench tool but did not come with the skinny long plastic tool to get the nuts off so we could remove the tank. Ended up ordering a kit from Amazon that did include that tool which I believe is absolutely necessary to remove the tank. So all in all it cost about $40 for us to do it ourselves; much cheaper than a plumber probably would have cost. Put it all back together and it works beautifully. Thanks so much again! And awesome sweatshirt by the way!

[@YouCanDIYHome]

I’m so glad you guys got it all taken care of! Thanks for watching and for your comment :)

[@timfisher6485]

Emily, You did a great job explaining how to install that Flush Valve. I have looked at 7 other videos and that includes one produced by American Standard. They completely left out how to get the tank off the bowl. I have worked in radio and TV, and actually taught advanced video editing at Vincennes University. I really liked how you gave the reasons for your cut-aways and the one about finding another extension cord which gave your videographer better close up shots of what you were talking about made me LOL. Anyway, I was able to replace everything on my tank, and it works. (Miracles of Miracles) from watching your video. If I ever run into anyone who wants to tackle flush valve problems with Champion, I will recommend your video highly. By the way, you would have gotten an A+ for that video in my class.

[@YouCanDIYHome]

Thank you for the kind feedback Tim! I'm so glad this helped you out.

[@donnpummell2400]

I just did this replacement and used a 1/2” deep socket with an extension to turn/hold the two nuts from the bottom of the tank.

[@jtuc1]

Thanks that's just exactly what I needed to know. The other guy said 5/8 but that didn't work for me.

[@marvinshook9142]

Thank you Emily for sharing this with us. If you are going commit to dismantling the tank from the toilet, why not replace the flush valve with one that lasts longer and improves the toilet performance. Nuflush makes one--solved all our problems. @4:30 the tool for holding the nut on the bottom of the tank is plastic. It will only work if the nut/bolt has not corroded together. My plastic one just stripped itself trying to hold the nut. I used a deep socket on my toilet to get it done.

[@jtuc1]

I used 1/2 instead of 5/8. They are not all the same.

[@bradw6890]

All I can say is thank you thank you and thank you. You are incredible.⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@YouCanDIYHome]

You’re so welcome! Thanks for your kind comment!

[@xbrizzcakez]

I just had my toilet fail as you show in the video. The lower plastic cup became dislodged from the flush unit. I have a replacement coming today and will install the new flush valve. Your video is excellent! Thanks

[@YouCanDIYHome]

Sorry to hear about your toilet! I'm glad you have the part coming and hopefully this video helps you with your repair- good luck!

[@xbrizzcakez]

@@YouCanDIYHome I saw it was available at Lowes so I went and picked it up and it is a done deal! The toilet has a new flush valve and functioning normal.It took me an hour, start to finish. I didn't`t mention the failure occurred during a 6 person dinner for my wife's Bday. lol, expect the unexpected!

[@YouCanDIYHome]

@@xbrizzcakez Oh man, that the worst luck! I'm glad you got it fixed, woohoo!

[@The_Rat_Pack_Dayz]

Literally couldn’t get that but off at the bottom of the tank. Almost snapped that crappy little plastic tool that it comes with.

[@erikestrada5663]

Thank you,Emily Lopez. This tutorial helped enormously!!!

[@YouCanDIYHome]

I'm so glad it helped! Thanks for the comment :)

[@nawiensharma6084]

If you don't have the special tools, you can use visegrips locked on the nut for the bottom nuts on each side and rotate around. For the large plastic white flashing nut mated to the toilet, use a large adjustable channel lock that matches.

[@daydream1478]

Thank you so much for this detailed video!

[@YouCanDIYHome]

You’re so welcome! Thank you for commenting!!

[@DHSFEMA]

Very good video, I’m doing this I’m a few days so thank you for showing it and saying how to do it, I appreciate it

[@YouCanDIYHome]

Happy to help! Thank you for the comment and good luck!

[@Zeebra143]

Nah it wasn’t “long” let alone “too long” as you had made it sound it was f’ing perfect. I’m kinda bummed cuz I’ve got a 1 piece and I’ve never watched an entire DIY video on anything cuz they usually suck but I was looking forward to a part 2 sequel for the 1 piece. But I appreciate your buddies link. Oh I wasn’t gonna mention this but the toilet has been out of action for over a year now and 1 main reason and my go to excuse why it’s not fixed is cuz I haven’t seen a video this awesome. And I don’t produce videos or have any experience in Hollywood like so many others here tx again

[@YouCanDIYHome]

Good luck with your toilet! It looks like the 1 pieced should be an easy fix in watching the other video :)

[@Zeebra143]

@@YouCanDIYHome hi I thank you for your reply because I am not just replacing the piece that you had kicked ass in making a video on. I am replacing the entire toilet which I have bought and has been in my house for a year w/10 of the months in said bathroom now so my intentions were good, but I could use your expertise to point me in the right direction (ya got another video hidden some?) I have to replace the entire piece I appreciate your time. Have a good night.

[@YouCanDIYHome]

@@Zeebra143 Are you replacing the entire toilet?

[@Zeebra143]

@@YouCanDIYHome yes unfortunately the initial crack I had attempted to repair which then became a few different cracks when work was being done. Unsalvageable

[@YouCanDIYHome]

@@Zeebra143 Every toilet will be a little different but here is a video I made of a full toilet install. It may give you a general idea. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIrRdH-Cjb-YkMU

[@jimroberts6176]

Who knew. Jennifer Garner can do some plumbing....Good step-by-step. Why didn't you replace the fill valve, since you had the tank removed?

[@YouCanDIYHome]

Thank you! I honestly can't remember when I did this. We had a renter and this was their only bathroom so I remember just trying to get it done quickly so they had a toilet again.

[@ncgolli]

I have the same toilet that I installed only 1 week ago. I am not happy with the high flush valve because half the time the flush is too short to do a complete flush. If I replaced the flush valve I would put a shorter one in so it would use more water and flush it the first time. How am I saving water if I have to flush it twice?

[@mrzif0013]

my new toilet flush handle is sticking up vs returning to level after flushing. what do you think?

[@rioraton]

You mentioned something very important that is those shut off valves WILL LEAK if they have not been opened or close in a long while. That is another nightmare if that happens best to turn the water off from the house. In my case the thumb screw sheared off....from just flushing the toilet??? I bought a new flush valve assembly as plan B ....but I am attempting to remove the old thumb screw base as opposed to replacing the assembly...another problem they do not make the thumb screw any more...had to buy off ebay for 25 bucks for a plastic screw?

[@philsey6913]

I am replacing my Chamption 4 flush valve right now and I came here to see if I could answer a question. If you notice at 5:18 there is a curious crescent shaped separation in the toile flush hole. My initial thought is that this is to provide water for the bowl rinse portion of the flush (my toilet provides hardly any water to rinse the sides of the bow). The fill valve itself has an identical crescent shaped partition where the large fill tube is located. My thought was that perhaps these should line up, but that wasn't the way the factory had installed it. However, its impossible to line these up because the fill tube won't allow for this alignment. In any event, you re-installed in the video the same way mine came from the factory, so that is what I will do.

[@YouCanDIYHome]

How did it turn out with the replacement? I have put this in a ton of rentals and never had any instructions specifically meting that divider (I went and looked and see what you are talking about). However, I have only ever spent special attention to lining up that gasket so the corners and flat sections are aligned between the bowl and the tank - and I've always been fine :) Hope it works out for you!!!

[@philsey6913]

@@YouCanDIYHome It went just fine. If there is a next time I'm going to order a new gasket kit for the tank and toilet, the greenish one. Mine was a little worn, but it should be fine. It hasn't leaked yet. But then again its only been a few hours. I think the shapes of those crescent dividers are just coincidence. I'll be redoing our downstairs powder room in a couple months, and to be honest, I'm going to give Toto a try as a replacement to the old builder's grade toilet.

[@YouCanDIYHome]

@@philsey6913 I've heard great things about toto toilets. I haven't personally used or installed one. But, I used to work with a plumber a lot that would swear by them.

[@thepinkdiamonds8370]

@@YouCanDIYHome, We didn’t see the flush in the bowl.

[@YouCanDIYHome]

@@thepinkdiamonds8370 What do you mean?

[@johnmurphy9688]

Best vid on here. Well done. 👍

[@mmproperties4350]

Great Video…. Al Borland would approve

[@vmware100]

Where can you get the plastic cover that is over the seal which has American Standard written on it.

[@YouCanDIYHome]

Shoot, I'm not sure, it's been a while since I did this project. I would reach out to American Standard directly.

[@nobrand7957]

How did you know to replace the entire flush assembly versus only replacing the flapper and amall O ring washer at the top of the unit where the chain connects to the flush handle? I'm asking because our Champion loses water from inside the tank. If the entire flush system needs to be replaced, wouldn't most of the water empty from the tank? Whereas if it's just the flapper that needs to be replaced, then if water stops leaking once the water level drops below the flapper and the tank no longer loses water. Would that indicate that it's the flapper that needs to be replaced?

[@lelandlucia7231]

The stem in the flush valve was broken which caused the valve assembly to not work correctly so she needed to replace the whole valve since they don't make a separate user replaceable part for that (2:43). If the water stops leaking below the flapper level than it's the flapper or or the flapper seal. American Standard models using this valve are known to have issues with the flapper seals. Many develop bubbles under the seal and leak. You can just replace the seal if you have the model you describe and not have to replace the flapper. Korky makes one (no. 450) that works with this model and is warranted for 10 years (although I doubt the valve would last that long). The package also includes the O ring. It's about $10. Take care if you're taking the top nut off as you can break the stem under it pretty easily and it will drop down into the toilet horn.

[@lelandlucia7231]

Great job!

[@YouCanDIYHome]

@@lelandlucia7231 thank you!!

[@pamseward-wo4ey]

Thanks for the beginning to end explanation. T would help me if you used the names of the parts (as they are called in the manufacturer 's instructions) instead of saying place "this" piece on "that".

[@ponchoaag]

Hello wonder if you could help me I have several two pieces champions Wc but the flush valve are different types one is like your video with a black screw on it and the other is similar but with out the black screw. Can you help me given me the right part number for both also the right part number for the one piece Thanks

[@YouCanDIYHome]

I'm not sure, I would call American Standard and they should be able to help you find the exact part. One commenter even said if your toilet is under 10 years old, they will help you flush valve repair kits for free. Not sure if this is true, but worth a try!

[@spida703]

What's the grey piece for?

[@trustkarma7364]

You are absolutely the shit!!! Thank you so much! No man's been able to explain this to me properly haha! I love it 😂 thank you fellow handy-female 💪😜🙏

[@YouCanDIYHome]

I'm glad to help!!

[@Zeebra143]

Yea completely agree no man’s capable of killin’ it like this !

[@lakanen7]

Great video! Thanks :)

[@YouCanDIYHome]

You're welcome!

[@rezlanhackworth7244]

Usually the nut on the bottom are 1/2inch. But could be bigger.

[@genosails2]

Super video presentation. New sub.

[@YouCanDIYHome]

Thank you for subscribing and commenting!!

[@deegee414]

There is a lifetime warranty, mine is 12 years old and just received all the parts with all the seals to replace the flush valve .

[@getlikegrim7945]

Hey Emily can I please have a link for the green tank to bowl gasket? 9:42

[@YouCanDIYHome]

This should be what you need: amzn.to/3yQmOZZ

[@AaronShumaker]

If you look at those instructions the overflow tube is on the other side, and I'd suggest doing it that way cause you are gonna have a very hard time finding a longer refill tube by itself. Otherwise great video.

[@NBKDemo]

Hi Emily, Great video. I have a replacement valve coming as the bottom cup portion of the valve is detached from the upper part, and I can see the broken piece on the pole that hold them together. I'm just wondering if you have a link for the tool you used to hold the nuts on the underside of the toilet? Thank you!

[@YouCanDIYHome]

It just came with the toilet, but if you don't still have it, I would recommend using a socket wrench that fits the bold with a straight attachment rather than one of the angled ratchet ones. That should hold is nicely, or help you crank it loose.

[@buglet59]

Great and thanks!!

[@YouCanDIYHome]

You’re welcome!

[@buglet59]

I have to do this next week when I get home. I have 3 year old AS toilets that the seals are bad and one of them I replace this part and the other two just the seals, if I can get them apart!!!

[@fehoward1900]

Very helpful. Thanks

[@YouCanDIYHome]

I'm so glad! Thank you for watching and commenting.

[@steveelgersma3589]

Having created a great tutorial on the valve replacement, you or someone may have a suggestion for me about something that happened when I wanted to just replace the gasket and subsequently the entire valve. When I opened the top of the valve by removing the plastic nut on top of the gasket assembly, I heard the rod that goes through the valve assembly drop inside the toilet. Someone had tampered with it before and the rod simply dropped down. I could not see it even after removing the tank, and could not fish it out. Worried I have to get the d@#% thing out somehow. And how? Thoughts only, I did enough praying and swearing. Will I need to actually shake the toilet upside down?

[@YouCanDIYHome]

Is your toilet attached to floor currently? Or completely removed? you don't want to risk losing it all the way down your sewer drain if its connected to the floor. Toilets have their P trap built in (versus a sink or tub that have a p trap plumbed in below the floor) so it may possibly be in the toilets P trap. If its in there and dry, shaking it upside down may get it out? Also, maybe a shop vac? then you could take it out of the vacuum body? Let me know how it goes!!

[@getlikegrim7945]

Same exact thing happened to me!

[@kayleevalli2681]

Love your watch, what kind is it?

[@YouCanDIYHome]

It is a really old Garmin watch. But the band is a cheap replacement band off of amazon.

[@kayleevalli2681]

@@YouCanDIYHome It's beautiful, and really shines out in the video. I shall have to help a friend soon with their toilet flap valve (not an American 4), and it was fun to watch that I'm not the only one who has adventures in doing plumbing.

[@YouCanDIYHome]

@@kayleevalli2681 Good luck! I hope it goes smooth for you guys :)

[@ponchoaag]

Thanks appreciate

[@shekharmoona544]

Use a kayak siphon to get the water out.

[@amaliaromero4874]

Mil gracias 🙏😍✝️✝️. Thanks so much ✝️😍

[@YouCanDIYHome]

Feliz de ayudar!!!

[@orangindonesiatinggaldiame6420]

💪💪💪

[@raycumpian2864]

3 things:1.get a wet-vac,2.a pocket level is a must for re-attaching the tank,3.ALWAYS run the water into a receptacle before re-attaching to the toilet.(even a tiny bit of debris can be detrimental to the fill valve).

[@rhodachandler4277]

American standard is an unethical company. My flush mechanism also failed. It turned out to be the flush mechanism flapper seal. It is not fit for its particular purpose. After about a year my brand new AS tiolet's seal was full of these bubbles. AS knew this but they got tons of sales for replacement seals.The seal develops bubbles in it and water slowly leaks causing ghost filling. I replaced all of my toilet's gaskets only to find it was that defective seal. Disgusted by this type of business practice.

[@YouCanDIYHome]

Oh no! I'm so sorry to hear this

[@doihavetohaveachannel8289]

I have the same problem with American standard toilet and ghost flushing.i have now redone the gasket on the flapper. Just did it and it is still ghost flushing. I have to go all the way to Home Depot for that type of part. Wastes my time and money. Do I need to replace the entire internal mechanism ??? This is a fairly new toilet. So annoying.

[@rickkelly1241]

I have a much better way of replacing that awful American Standard flush valve. DON'T. Instead, throw that stupid thing away and purchase an Everbilt 3" valve from the HD and install that. You'll get a much better flush and be able to increase the water volume a bit to ensure that happens. Same thing with the Kohler canister flush valve. Awful things...

[@HarveyWallbanger-ho2cq]

Why did you put that dumbass valve back in? Get a Nuflush

[@joetoyota7903]

Bingo! When my factory valve needs replacing, I'm going with the nuflush.

[@CCoburn3]

The toilet is poorly designed. It is impossible to loosen/tighten those nuts without the tool. And as far as I can tell, you cannot buy that tool by itself.

[@YouCanDIYHome]

What about a deep socket that size?

[@CCoburn3]

@@YouCanDIYHome I tried. But the bolt is too close to the side to allow a socket.

[@YouCanDIYHome]

@@CCoburn3 Shoot, are you in an emergency situation? I have an extra of that tool. I could ship it to you if you're in the US?