What Was Darth Vader's Rank in the Empire? (Canon)

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@colindaniels945
@colindaniels945 Күн бұрын
His rank in the Empire was whatever Palpatine wanted it to be
@viewtifuljoe66
@viewtifuljoe66 Күн бұрын
about say depending on if vader angered palpatine he put him as subordinate under somebody else, as punishment to humilate him like did to as final punishment for letting death star get destroyed he had play heel to damn admiral who in new hope told rest of moffs not get to superior over death star cause rebels more better equipped than they realized, of course after that admiral fucked up who was in now in command of new super star destroyer, palaptine gave him his command and vader snapped his neck like twig.
@knightingale9833
@knightingale9833 Күн бұрын
And subject to change at a whim
@colindaniels945
@colindaniels945 Күн бұрын
@@knightingale9833 Correct
@colindaniels945
@colindaniels945 Күн бұрын
@@viewtifuljoe66 Correct
@b00ts4ndc4ts
@b00ts4ndc4ts Күн бұрын
@@colindaniels945 I think it was George Lucas' decision on not palpatine
@HoustonSoto
@HoustonSoto Күн бұрын
It never bugged me that Vader acquiesced Tarkin’s orders. It made sense that Vader would respect Tarkin’s jurisdiction as the Death Star was his command.
@christopherparsons3224
@christopherparsons3224 Күн бұрын
It isn't just that. It was Vader could clearly see Tarkin was doing Palpatine's bidding. So, he was actually not really subject to Tarkin's authority so much as he was the Emperor's.
@Abudzin
@Abudzin Күн бұрын
@@HoustonSoto plus, Tarkin was a man of principle and honor, which Vader respected. If anything, Vader hated ambitious upstarts, like all those admirals and directors whom he would Force choke, but Tarkin wasn't one of them. Plus, they already formed a bond of mutual respect during the Clone Wars.
@promnightdumpsterbaby9553
@promnightdumpsterbaby9553 Күн бұрын
@HoustonSoto Indeed. Anakin was a soldier after all. And he's known Tarkin a very long time.
@Scorch1028
@Scorch1028 21 сағат бұрын
I read the Star Wars comic where Palpatine tells Vader to defer to Tarkin on the Death Star. On top of that, “everybody needs friends”, including a dark, evil, brooding Sith Lord like Darth Vader.
@TravelatorH8r
@TravelatorH8r 18 сағат бұрын
Well, anakin is in there somewhere. And we all know that anakin isn't stupid. Unless an action is going to cross with a goal that Vader wants to personally achieve. I think he's going 2. Allow delegation to carry out. He understands how the system works
@MGower4465
@MGower4465 Күн бұрын
Vader was a Emperor's Hand. He neither had nor needed rank. He deferred to Tarkin aboard the Death Star as a courtesy since that was Tarkin's base, and Vader was merely visiting it. Aboard Vader 's own ship, one would expect Tarkin to show similar courtesy.
@christopherparsons3224
@christopherparsons3224 Күн бұрын
@@MGower4465 , I agree and had they disagreed, a force choke would've left room for a promotion, just like when the one commander screwed up and alerted the rebels to the empire's presence, if I remember right, by coming out of light speed too close to the base.
@kazemizu
@kazemizu Күн бұрын
I believe Sideous had forbid him from killing Tarkin. That said, a mess up like that might have changed his mind
@BlaacHollow
@BlaacHollow 20 сағат бұрын
Well vader was told to stop killing the Moffs by the emperor. So perhaps Vader was simply keeping himself in check with tarkin also know that palpatine favoured tarkin as well. dont go killing the emperors best friend.... Also Vader didn't show much respect to the Moff on the new death star, so I am thinking, it would have not been any different with tarkin. But tarkin got results.
@josebrown5961
@josebrown5961 14 сағат бұрын
Well he wouldn’t have to kill someone. He could just leave them out of breath and thanking their god that Vader didn’t kill them.
@therearenoshortcuts9868
@therearenoshortcuts9868 14 сағат бұрын
"Emperor's Hand" the one that the emperor wipes his ass with LOL
@BawkBawkBawk666
@BawkBawkBawk666 Күн бұрын
His rank was Lord. His security clearance was force choke.
@Abudzin
@Abudzin Күн бұрын
Simple as that
@nathanhector1985
@nathanhector1985 22 сағат бұрын
Exactly
@rogermoore8977
@rogermoore8977 15 сағат бұрын
Can you imagine giving him below an 800 credit score?
@BawkBawkBawk666
@BawkBawkBawk666 15 сағат бұрын
@@rogermoore8977 apology accepted....
@LordNexusTheFir
@LordNexusTheFir 11 сағат бұрын
​@@rogermoore8977 800 😂 his credit score never fell below 1300 since he became lord Vader. Have u seen his properties? Volcanic mansion, underwater villa 😂
@0predaking0
@0predaking0 2 күн бұрын
As far as i recall Vader was only below Palpatine, in everything related to the empire, officially he was the heir, even to House Palpatine XD
@PorcelainPsycho
@PorcelainPsycho Күн бұрын
@0predaking0 Grew up with the original trilogy & some comics, & took in the additional 3 movies as they were released. I also came away with the same impression. Vader was as visible as he needed to be, as well as whatever rank palpatine felt like sticking him with from mood swing to mood swing. But he seemed to represent the future of the Empire no matter what his role.
@HarrieBrouwer
@HarrieBrouwer Күн бұрын
@@PorcelainPsycho maybe is a master/boss Just a ilusion ??
@HarrieBrouwer
@HarrieBrouwer Күн бұрын
No matter how hi you are
@BrentSevigny
@BrentSevigny Күн бұрын
@@PorcelainPsycho agreed. As the Sith apprentice he was technically number 2 but took orders from others because it was “For the Empire”
@dion6635
@dion6635 Күн бұрын
Tarkin was the Emperors top general, and he told Vader what to do on a few occasions... shared power under the Empire, but heir to the throne after he killed the Emperor... it's the Sith way;)
@emeraldmilcham6041
@emeraldmilcham6041 Күн бұрын
Vader has no official rank within the Imperial military. The 2017 comics you keep citing explicitly have some of the officers noting Vader operates outside of their command structure and he answers to no one. After several failed attempts to assassinate him, Vader requests Palpatine introduce him properly to the commanding officers, where he promptly chokes some of them, so to establish that he holds more power than they ever will. During that same introduction, Palpatine flat out says a command from Vader should be treated as a direct command from himself. Vader served as the emperor's voice and right hand, and unless other special instructions were in play, only Palpatine himself could overrule Vader's order.
@FLAMINGBABYHEAD
@FLAMINGBABYHEAD Күн бұрын
His rank was "I can kill you at a distance with a thought. FAAFO."
@andrews6013
@andrews6013 Күн бұрын
I went with force choke
@ThomasDavis-e4g
@ThomasDavis-e4g Күн бұрын
The Star Wars Cantina skit by Eddie Izzard is a riot! I often watch it when I need a quick cheer. Nicely done! Tea or cake or death!
@ocularpatdown
@ocularpatdown 14 сағат бұрын
@@FLAMINGBABYHEAD You still need a tray.
@HermannCortez
@HermannCortez 4 сағат бұрын
​@@ThomasDavis-e4gcake please!
@AlphonsoFrett-xz6pi
@AlphonsoFrett-xz6pi Күн бұрын
I painfully miss old-school star wars 😢 but you make this very interesting😅
@JasonPruett
@JasonPruett Күн бұрын
yep i hate reaading but i would probably rather go read the old novels now
@AlphonsoFrett-xz6pi
@AlphonsoFrett-xz6pi Күн бұрын
@JasonPruett Sadly true
@kennethmelnychuk9737
@kennethmelnychuk9737 Күн бұрын
@@AlphonsoFrett-xz6pi: agreed, episode 9 was the only one that I didn’t watch in the theatre and I’m glad that I didn’t.
@AlphonsoFrett-xz6pi
@AlphonsoFrett-xz6pi Күн бұрын
@kennethmelnychuk9737 same here
@dxdynamite47
@dxdynamite47 Күн бұрын
Vader had no rank. He was outside the formal rank structure of the Imperial Army/Navy. His role was to act as a representative of the Emperor, that's why he could give orders to military officers. When Uncle Senate wanted Vader to fill a specific role, then he would be seen as a type of mission specialist, still with no rank, but acting in whatever capacity Palpy deemed necessary.
@mongeziplaatjie9207
@mongeziplaatjie9207 Күн бұрын
If you look at it in a historical point of view. You would see that in ww2 there was a guy named himmler, he was the SS Leader, so that guy was everywhere, in the Wehrmacht he could have a say, in the Lufftwaffe he could have a say, in the Kriegsmarine he could also have a say. It probably annoyed the other generals because he was an anomaly
@EvidenceReasonsAcademy
@EvidenceReasonsAcademy 12 сағат бұрын
My thought exactly.
@alanjhargreaves
@alanjhargreaves Күн бұрын
Basically, he was "The Emperor's Fixer".
@randalcook325
@randalcook325 2 күн бұрын
Lord Vade was subservient to Grand Moff Tarkin, by orders from Emperor Palpatine. He was the one and only person he had to obey, until the death star was destroyed and Emperor Palpatine was enraged and blamed Vader for the loss. Due to this, Palpatine placed Vader under the command of General Tagge for a short time. When Tagge failed Palpatine, Vader killed the man. After that Vader answered to no one except The Empepor
@Toolbeltbunnygirl
@Toolbeltbunnygirl Күн бұрын
@@randalcook325 At the time he ranked about the same as Grand Moff Tarkin, essentially, but only deferred to him as appropriate which would be when aboard Tarkin's command, The Death Star. If the situation was reversed Tarkin would defer to Vader if for example aboard The Executor. Tarkin was given charge of a pretty hefty command, this would demand a certain respect and deference; but not subservience. Imagine Palps reaction if his apprentice who had no official standing and leave to do so were to be openly hostile towards one who held enough clout to helm the empire's ultimate weapon. There is also the fact that at the time of A New Hope Vader's official capacity and exact role and nature much less if he would even survive the film were nebulous at best.
@toejamandearl8110
@toejamandearl8110 Күн бұрын
Incorrect, Lord Vader was equal to Grand Moffs and Grand Admirals in rank unless the Emperor (acting as Sidious) granted him full authority and requisition above them. This is one reason Rogue One doesn't work. Darth Vader is not a pawn in Tarkin's game. He is the queen in Palpatine's chess game. Stormtroopers are the pawns, which is why they are seen first in Episode 4, clearing out the rebels before Vader enters. Side note: Rogue One is also broken in lore. According to Vader, several transmissions were beamed to the consular ship, yet in Rogue One, they hand delivered it . Disney fails. It's as almost as if they had no idea about a key character.
@fixipszikon6670
@fixipszikon6670 Күн бұрын
Absolutely not.
@BubbaThaumaturge
@BubbaThaumaturge 23 сағат бұрын
​@@toejamandearl8110They simply don't care about established lore or facts within the episodes that came before. Thus, they just don't bother to pay attention to vital details.
@randalcook325
@randalcook325 21 сағат бұрын
@toejamandearl8110 what you are failing to see is this, yes the plans for operation Star Dust were originally beamed to Leah's ship. Then taken out of the computer system of the ship and transferred to a disk, that Leah then put into R2D2s system on the chip, as well S the message to Obi Wan. So had the ISD destroyed that escape pod the cursed rebels would not have gotten the plans. And yes, Lord Vader took orders from Grand Moff Tarkin in New Hope. This came from Emperor Palpatine himself. He told Vader to make sure those plans were found. While it is true that Lord Vader was on the same level as Tarkin and the Grand Admirals, Admiral Motti and General Tagge were not at that level. They were below Vader and The Grand Admirals. Technically the others had not even been created yet, as this was the first movie and no tech manuals or books had been written yet. It wasn't until the mid 90's that Star Wars blew up into the giant creation it is today. Long Live The Empire.
@Kamacosby
@Kamacosby 2 күн бұрын
Great job! very good video. My understanding is Vader was second in command of the Imperial military being only behind Palpatine. He was under Tarkin on the Death Star because Palpatine gave Tarkin specifically full oversight of the Death Star and Vader didnt mind receiving orders from Tarkin to much because he respected him. Vader was placed under the command of the grand general as punishment for the destruction of the death star. But since it was only punishment from Palpatine, something he knew would hurt Vaders pride it was only temporary.
@OptomistSteve
@OptomistSteve Күн бұрын
Vader was totally outside of military and civil power structure and was the #2 Sith lord and apparent heir to EP. As Sith lord, he could take command of military or civil authority to fulfill his Sith directive, but was subservient to EP and followed his directives. He could execute singularly or en mass based on his own discretion and the only one he answered to was EP. The reason there is some confusion as to his position is because he didnt seek personal power and acted for the benefit of EP, not himself. EP didnt use him as ruler, but gave him missions. His talents would have been wasted on bureaucracy and were best used as destructive force and boogy man. As such he was not tied to a post, but free to go from mission to mission and take control as needed, which he did. His position was akin to the commander of the secret police. He could go into any organization and could imprison or execute any person for disobedience, so he could take control as needed. Though after he left, power reverted to the original structure. As for Tarkin, DV could have executed him, but would have answered to EP for it. Tarkin was another pet of EP and had some of the privilege given to DV. Tarkin, like DV was loyal, competent and ruthless and so DV had no reason to step on his toes.
@johnallen4030
@johnallen4030 14 сағат бұрын
Vader is the Consigliere to the crime boss
@Firebrand1967
@Firebrand1967 12 сағат бұрын
Indeed. Consigliere...and Enforcer.
@tellucas
@tellucas 51 минут бұрын
Vader was basically the Guy in charge of special projects for management. So he had whatever authority that was required to complete the task at hand.
@bwy553
@bwy553 Күн бұрын
He was Palpatines right hand. Above everyone else. The thing with Tarkin was only because of how much the emperor valued Tarkin. At any point, Palpatine could have allowed Vader to kill him.
@Ifyoucanreadthisgooglebroke
@Ifyoucanreadthisgooglebroke Күн бұрын
Outside the rank structure, answers only to the emperor, when he decides to take charge of an operation then he is in charge, acts subserviently in certain contexts with others of similar answering-only-to-the-emperor status when he is 'in their dojo'. An analog that comes to mind are spectres from mass effect, but without the formally established institution.
@swahny802
@swahny802 Күн бұрын
As I’m watching this video. Tarkin knows Vader is Anakin
@thewarner2139
@thewarner2139 Күн бұрын
Yeah. The novels and comics make it abundantly clear he and Thrawn both knew Vader's identity.
@The_artist_called_The_Engineer
@The_artist_called_The_Engineer 5 сағат бұрын
I always imagined Vader as palatines troubleshooter a powerful agent to be applied wherever the system wasn’t working out. As for the Tarkin/Vader dynamic i think as Tarkin is within the structure of the Empire and a senior rank, whereas Vaders position is ambiguous Vader is playing along so as not to undermine the chain of command. He knows his power and real status. I’d even see the Emperor instructing him to observe the situation and not rock the boat unless it becomes necessary.
@TNDRIVER
@TNDRIVER 10 сағат бұрын
Vader was about Sith business, and that superseded Empire business at all times. In Tarkin and The Rise of Darth Vader, Sidious had Vader foster a relationship with Tarkin, and Tarkin was well aware of Vader's position. Put more stock in the novels as they define Vader's true rank. It can even be seen in Rogue One that Vader and Tarkin were about the Emperor's business, and there is no doubt that it is triumphant.
@jaca688
@jaca688 13 сағат бұрын
The man can chock you from an other star system.. his rank is what ever he want and we do what ever he says
@Peatingtune
@Peatingtune 9 сағат бұрын
choke*
@LeaveMyFreedomBe
@LeaveMyFreedomBe 36 минут бұрын
"This is my rank punk"
@dion6635
@dion6635 Күн бұрын
Obi-Wan left him nearly dead with no legs and burning when he beat him... it would be natural to assume him dead and have no idea about the existence of Vader until he started hunting jedi...
@juanramero5199
@juanramero5199 Күн бұрын
Darth Vader Almost became the Ruler of the galaxy replacing Palatine
@DeeVader83
@DeeVader83 Күн бұрын
They hinted in Dark Lord Rise of Darth Vader book which is now considered Legends that Bail Organa knew or thought that Anakin was Darth Vader especially when Vader visited him and requested to meet his Wife who was taking care of Leia at the time and Organa was nervous as hell.
@AxionXIII
@AxionXIII Күн бұрын
He was a Lord, not rank and file. He did what he wanted because he was the only one Palpatine trusted. Tarkin was one of the few originals he valued and respected. A wise man is never without council.
@kavika7313
@kavika7313 Күн бұрын
I believe Vader was merely Palpatine’s enforcer. He made sure the rank and file officers at the very top did their jobs. Tarkin may have issued orders to Vader at certain points but no order that the emperor didn’t already approve.
@spiritualhammer392
@spiritualhammer392 Күн бұрын
Actually, Palpatine gave Tarkin free reign to make decisions - he did not even consult the Emperor prior to destroying Alderaan. Tarkin ranked higher than Vader, who held no rank. Palpatine respected Tarkin more than Vader, and so did everyone else.
@onetruekeeper
@onetruekeeper 11 сағат бұрын
Anakin was a general during the Clone Wars but in the Imperial forces he is a war lord which is not a military rank but a civilian one which is higher than any military rank
@matthewJ142
@matthewJ142 Күн бұрын
Technically and if I'm not mistaken it is mentioned that he technically is a Commander, like Kylo Ren in the Force Awakens. He is in charge of the 501st and the Executor Super Star Destroyer
@1truefreedomfighter
@1truefreedomfighter Күн бұрын
I like to think of it like this: His rank was similar to that of an Emperor's son, who is also well known as a short-tempered invincible assasin. In more modern terms, if the empire is the company you work for, he is the owner's son (and also a known short-tempered invincible assassin.)
@davidfinch7407
@davidfinch7407 14 сағат бұрын
He was a Lord. It probably didn't mean anything on its own, it's probably like being a "nobleman". Treated with respect but with only limited authority on his own. Like when he showed up at the construction of the second Death Star and was told "we are working as hard as we can." Then Vader said, "Good, you can explain it to the Emperor", at which point he was told "we shall redouble our efforts." So Vader wasn't really in charge of anything and didn't accomplish anything until he revealed he had the Emperor's backing on this.
@Enzo012
@Enzo012 Күн бұрын
He wasn't originally that highly ranked in ANH he was just kind of like the hired muscle but that was retconned later when he became massively popular. It's a bit like how he couldn't sense his own daughter through the Force when she was standing right there in front of him. There wasn't really any need to hide her from him.
@spiritualhammer392
@spiritualhammer392 Күн бұрын
Exactly. Tarkin ran the show in ANH.
@joshetter1066
@joshetter1066 Күн бұрын
​@@spiritualhammer392I mean he couldn't sense her in ROTJ either so that aspect isn't a retcon. It's established that to sense someone through the force on that level there needs to be an established emotional connection between the two, Vader didn't sense Luke was his son until he found out and after ESB and Luke finds out that's when they start being able to sense each other through the force.
@UwU-235
@UwU-235 Күн бұрын
@@Enzo012 you’re thinking boba. Vader was always meant to be one of the leaders of the empire and you can see that in anh when he kills an officer.
@TooLOWtoobeGone
@TooLOWtoobeGone Күн бұрын
Dude, most of A New Hope is about Darth Vader, LOL. Even when Obi Wan and Luke have scenes, and the fall of Darth Vader is discussed, its very much implied he runs the show from a military strategy aspect. He listened to Tarkin to stop force choking the guy because he was going to kill, thats not really being obedient I would say. Vader was always the most popular character starting from A New Hope. Hes second in command to the Emperor its that simple. While Tarkin suggests miniscle things to Vader, Vader does what he wants and when he wants to do. Palpatine barely gives him any orders.
@Abudzin
@Abudzin Күн бұрын
​@@joshetter1066true dat. Unless your Force signature is really really high and you can't mask it like Palpatine during his time as Chancellor. But then you feel a "disturbance" in the Force, without knowing who this person is. Then, once you get a "whiff" of someone's Force and you have some emotional connnection to this person, you can sense them in particular later on. Funny how in terms of sensing one another Force users basically work like dogs. I wonder if they also piss at lamp posts to mark their terrain.
@martinthomas5155
@martinthomas5155 Күн бұрын
After Tarkin's death and the Battle of Yavin Vader was second only to the Emperor. Palpatine said to Vader 'The fleet will be yours. The Executor will be yours'. This in the Marvel comic 'Darth Vader'. After The Emperor 'gives' Vader the fleet and the Excecutor, Vader killed General Tagge.
@LordNexusTheFir
@LordNexusTheFir 11 сағат бұрын
Vader Rank is "Ask me a stupid question again" 😂
@Captain23rdGaming
@Captain23rdGaming 10 сағат бұрын
His Rank went pretty much like this: Vader:Officer Vandel would you come in here for a second,i need an Example Officer Vandel: Officer Vandel of 5th Fleet reporting, an example of what Lord Vad- *force chokes* Vader: You see that? That's you in 5 minutes if you dont find Skywalker!
@WilliamAGould
@WilliamAGould 19 сағат бұрын
In practice, Darth Vader position in the Empire was Head of the Human Resources from Hell. Outside of hunting Jedi and dealing with Rebels, Vader's primary job was a fix-it guy for the Empire, when a base, or project for the Empire was having cost overruns, or delays, he was sent in to fix the "problems". Think the two guys from Office Space, only instead of firing problems, he put problems in body bags. See the beginning of the Return of the Jedi, when Vader arrives on the Second Death Star. And that was Vader on a good day.
@Blackman1000ify
@Blackman1000ify Күн бұрын
Vader was the Commander in Chief of the empire and second in command to the emperor. If Palpatine wanted someone dealt with, he called on Vader as his top enforcer. He was the emperor's fist.
@Scorch1028
@Scorch1028 21 сағат бұрын
I read the comic book where Emperor Palpatine tells Darth Vader to defer to Grand Moff Tarkin’s authority while he’s on the Death Star. The reason that Vader released his Force-choke on Admiral Motti when Tarkin commanded him to do so, is because Vader respected Tarkin’s judgment. If you notice, after Tarkin died, none of the other top brass Imperial officers had a go-between who could convince Vader to spare their lives when he became angry. In the grand scheme of things, since 19 BBY, Vader was right underneath the Emperor. He only deferred to Tarkin on the Death Star battle station in 0 BBY. Once the Death Star and Tarkin were obliterated, Vader had no peers under the Emperor.
@martinthomas5155
@martinthomas5155 Күн бұрын
I've always loved the idea of a Darth Vader and Moff Gideon collaboration.
@thatguyinyourcommentsectio182
@thatguyinyourcommentsectio182 Күн бұрын
Vader’s rank in the empire was fundamentally different from any other person in the empire, as his relationship with Palpatine was that of master and apprentice. Yes, there where times where Vader had to answer to other officers, but in the end it was because of Vader’s position as Palpatine’s apprentice that he was put through these tasks, as Palpatine was always pushing Vader to go above and beyond as his enforcer and as his sith apprentice even if that meant showing some “tough love” and being temporary demoted at times, as in the end there was always a sort of hidden lesson to be found in it, so that Vader could grow and better manage and oversee the empire. On top of all that Vader was the only person in the empire who could understand the nature and power of the force in the same way that Palpatine could, which transcends anything else that others officers, governors, admirals or even inquisitors could bring to the table.
@MyTeddyTales
@MyTeddyTales 11 сағат бұрын
Tarkin had command over Vader. He showed no fear of retribution in front of the dark lord.
@MrOptimusheath
@MrOptimusheath 16 сағат бұрын
Vader was in nature, a perfect Sith. He only was subservient to Palpatine through their friendship, up until the point that He became more powerful then his Dark side master, But he never did become more powerful then Palpatine during the rule of the Empire. as we see in the end, Vader`s nature would not allow him to remain loyal to anything except for his own brand of Justice. He did slew Palpatine in the end remember. Vader had respect for Tarkin, Because Tarkin was not like the other moffs, he was a real warrior. Vader respected the brutality Tarkin`s had survived. Only those that could endure great agony, and survive, were worthy in Vaders eyes. His way of teaching others was nothing short of showing them, what it is to be utterly defeated. if they could survive Death, then they earnt Vaders Grace.
@igregmart
@igregmart 13 сағат бұрын
Just call him "my Lord." His role was to obey his Emperor and execute his instructions. If you fail to comply, you will answer to the Emperor, if Vader has not killed you first.
@darylkeller376
@darylkeller376 Күн бұрын
Darth Vader was the man period !!!
@spiritualhammer392
@spiritualhammer392 Күн бұрын
He was always under Tarkin, at least in Palpatine's and the rest of the Empire's eyes. Vader didn't fuck with Tarkin.
@physetermacrocephalus2209
@physetermacrocephalus2209 14 сағат бұрын
His rank is Darth by default because everyone else in the hierarchy is just going to assume that anyway given no one is going to question it in the first place.
@TravisBrady-wn8fr
@TravisBrady-wn8fr Күн бұрын
Luke and Vader appeared on Dr Phil. DNA testing proved Jabba as Luke's actual father....
@TravelatorH8r
@TravelatorH8r 18 сағат бұрын
Darth Vader is fighting his way through middle management. Just like everybody else's
@Duneek
@Duneek 18 сағат бұрын
Running the Inquisitors seems kinda' meaningful though. It's not like Storm Troopers were gonna hunt down and take out surviving Jedi.
@mikecragan3932
@mikecragan3932 21 сағат бұрын
his rank is the one of the most over powered characters in legends
@DrewPicklesTheDark
@DrewPicklesTheDark Күн бұрын
"Heir Apparent" I think would be a good one.
@SellavinAtoms
@SellavinAtoms Күн бұрын
Very good Video, by the end of it I wanted to learn more, is there one for luke, leia and han.
@BlaacHollow
@BlaacHollow 20 сағат бұрын
Vader was like the hand of the king.
@DoomderX
@DoomderX Сағат бұрын
I always thought Vader was second in commend of the Empire due to him being the Emperors apprentice
@DavidLLambertmobile
@DavidLLambertmobile 24 минут бұрын
@@DoomderX I thought his "title" was Lord. He's called Lord a few times; OT films, books, Marvel comic line- 1970s 1980s.
@anthonytyson7639
@anthonytyson7639 19 сағат бұрын
His "Rank" was VADER!!!! That's all the rank he needed.
@MrHeadphones64
@MrHeadphones64 14 сағат бұрын
Vader is the proverbial 800 pound gorilla in the room. His rank was whatever he felt like
@sobe9ball
@sobe9ball Күн бұрын
I know VADER was under Grand Moff Tarkin as far as the "DEATH STAR" project is concerned....
@spiritualhammer392
@spiritualhammer392 Күн бұрын
And in every other way. Tarkin ran the show.
@gymhayes4613
@gymhayes4613 Күн бұрын
Vader was palpatines personal assistant. We all know the assistant has the real power.
@markopolo8136
@markopolo8136 15 сағат бұрын
I figured Vader was kind of a 'fixer' for Palps through to Yavin. No rank except whatever might have rolled over from his Jedi role. Just an Imperial credential and a difficult attitude, popping up to rep Palps and sort things out. The regular military - Tarkin and friends - didn't care for him and generally didn't need to pay much attention to him. When Vader gets pushy with someone on the general staff, Tarkin walks him back because he can. Vader can kill any person in that room but the military can just squash him - especially by making his fixer role impossible. Vader got way more important after Yavin mainly because he wasn't on the Death Star and most of the general staff was. That's why in ESB you see this parade of 2nd tier generals and admirals getting pushed around by Vader - their heavyweight bosses were all gone.
@zaxxon4
@zaxxon4 Күн бұрын
Vader's "rank" would be questionable to almost everyone. Palpatine was at the top of multiple hierarchies. Being Emperor would place him above the previously highest position of Chancellor, but that is effectively the same since the rest of the government had not changed. So he was head of the Senate, the military (all branches), and by way of seizing the banks he was head of the economy. Few would even consider that he was the head of the Sith since they were not known to still exist. Everyone who saw Vader knew he was below the Emperor, but the question would be what hierarchy he was in. Palpatine would likely count him as second in command.
@ualaw77
@ualaw77 Күн бұрын
It always seemed to me that Vader was Palpatine's personal henchman, existing outside the imperial hierarchy until the destruction of the initial Death Star decapitated the imperial military leadership. Prior to this event, Vader wielded no official power. Instead, as the Emperor's emissary, he spoke on behalf of Palpatine. Because Palpatine wielded absolute authority, so did Vader when acting with the Emperor's authorization and on his behalf. After the Battle of Yavin, Vader stepped into the power vacuum left by the deaths of the upper echelons of imperial military command, assuming greater official responsibilities and acting on behalf of the Emperor more frequently.
@zachmcguire6659
@zachmcguire6659 Күн бұрын
I’ve read 102 of the legend novels there’s 156 but Vader was basically the emperor hand he shows up no matter what you’re doing doesn’t matter he out rank everyone
@PaulCotton
@PaulCotton Сағат бұрын
Always bugged me why Vader was ever subservient to the emperor. Especially after the prequels. He should of taken out the emperor a long time ago
@GiftedFox
@GiftedFox Күн бұрын
Another sick vid.
@demarkusgivens428
@demarkusgivens428 6 сағат бұрын
Some would consider him an enforcer but then again what muscle would Palpatine need when dude was a little storm of dark energy and Vader forgetting he was space jesus.
@knightingale9833
@knightingale9833 Күн бұрын
You’re pronouncing “Executor” wrong by the way you’re confusing it with the word “executioner.” The “execut” part is pronounced as in “executive.”
@fasillimerick7394
@fasillimerick7394 Күн бұрын
Exactly as the executor/executrix of a will.
@danieladkins5242
@danieladkins5242 6 сағат бұрын
He ranks in the top 1 percent of coolest villains with skeletor
@Pharaoh5611
@Pharaoh5611 Күн бұрын
So essentially Darth Vader is the Owner of a company’s child.
@Abudzin
@Abudzin Күн бұрын
I always thought his rank was just "Lord"...
@matsw8283
@matsw8283 Күн бұрын
The Jawas called his rank: Oohteedee.. Translated to basic it means: The supreme baddie from our sandy ball in space.
@ronanwaring3408
@ronanwaring3408 Күн бұрын
He could have been a type of supreme grand admiral/general who it seems were also sort of neither above or below normal officals, as with rebels we see Thrawn sometimes acquiesce to govenors requests usualy worded like orders, only to later on take complete control of an entire system or sector and there forces if it furthers their goal/task.
@SeansModelBuilds2017
@SeansModelBuilds2017 Күн бұрын
@@ronanwaring3408 So would that make Vader a Lord Admiral, since Admirals called him Lord Vader?
@ronanwaring3408
@ronanwaring3408 Күн бұрын
@@SeansModelBuilds2017 Sure that makes sense as well
@robhollowaycomedy
@robhollowaycomedy Күн бұрын
I love the background music😊
@quenc7254
@quenc7254 Күн бұрын
I wanna know if Darth Vader isn't enraged at that moment, could an officer/stormtrooper just ask him who he is? I feel like he'd either ignore you entirely or threaten you to never approach him again.
@daviscampbell9020
@daviscampbell9020 Күн бұрын
2nd in command is pretty high up there. Plus, he can nearly operate with virtual immunity, plus very low oversight or checks. 6:04 Thought vader was holding up a pizza slice.
@Warforged644
@Warforged644 Күн бұрын
My rank is I made it the fuck up! -Senator Steven Armstrong
@CorneliusWilliams-j8j
@CorneliusWilliams-j8j Күн бұрын
Only viewed the original three films once or twice. I seem to remember Vader being addressed as "Lord Vader" and "Lord Commander". Certain if someone had addressed him with the wrong ranking, there would have been some kind of corrective choking sounds in the background.
@JustinLaFleur1990
@JustinLaFleur1990 Күн бұрын
Vader's rank was whatever Vader and the Emperor decided. As he could just kill anyone who he didnt like save for the Emperor himself.
@Anodythe
@Anodythe 11 сағат бұрын
Darth Vader was NOT the father of Luke and Leia. The children were conceived while Anakin Skywalker was a loyal Jedi. Although Anakin became Vader, the Sith Lord did not exist until days before Luke and Leia were born.
@TXPAScot
@TXPAScot Күн бұрын
"What Was Darth Vader's Rank in the Empire?" Anything he wanted, I suppose...
@chadnasir6387
@chadnasir6387 8 сағат бұрын
Vader was more like a SS officer even though a SS Colonel is junior to a general the fact that the branch is SS the general would fear him .
@DavidLLambertmobile
@DavidLLambertmobile 19 минут бұрын
Vader had the title Lord used often. Some story lines, comics say Vader was by choice the Commander of all Navy forces, fleet. Outrank all Admirals.
@fasillimerick7394
@fasillimerick7394 Күн бұрын
In the US military we had a clearly delineated order of rank. Even for mustangs, an enlisted who becomes an officer, there's the O-1E. However, if an E-1 fresh from Basic, with an ASVAB score of 33, can choke me to death with their mind, then they they are whatever rank they want. Wanna fly the plane? Wanna drive the carrier? Need a foot rub? Ask, and it's yours!
@Jorgegarcia-oo7kk
@Jorgegarcia-oo7kk Күн бұрын
He was a retired Clone War veteran who would enter into conflict if it was personal 😂
@simunator
@simunator 18 сағат бұрын
he'll always be Youngling Slayer Supreme in my eyes
@nolongeramused8135
@nolongeramused8135 Күн бұрын
He had his own stuff to do, the military was merely a tool to be used when he needed it.
@easport-k4w
@easport-k4w Күн бұрын
i see Vader as the representation of the galactic empire, and the ore public, representation of the emperor
@schlawa
@schlawa 5 сағат бұрын
At the time of the Empire Strikes back, he is just casually executing and appointing Admirals, so what I take from this is that 1. Emperor, 2. Darth Vader, 3 ... the Rest of the Empire's military. Maybe a Grand-Admiral would have had the stomach to speak up to him, but what could they do in the end ? Arrest the right hand of the Emperor ? Try to kill a Sith-Lord ?
@DavidLLambertmobile
@DavidLLambertmobile 22 минут бұрын
I always took Vader's rank as Lord. Or Sith Lord. I think Sheev P put Vader in charge of the Navy, fleet too.
@exAirMover
@exAirMover 18 сағат бұрын
Vader had the highest rank in the Empire (less the Emperor himself), Vader was Palpatine's Enforcer and right hand man ...... that is a rank in itself! 😊
@scully5066
@scully5066 3 сағат бұрын
It reminds me of the relationship between Hitler and Himmler's SS Corp.
@greggweber9967
@greggweber9967 Күн бұрын
Could Vader be the unofficial eyes, ears, and sometimes mouth of the Emperor? He would also use his mouth to speak into the Emperor's ear.
@jefffaulkner2875
@jefffaulkner2875 10 минут бұрын
I don't think Vader had a rank. I think he was the guy who could kill anyone in the empire.
@twogungunnar9456
@twogungunnar9456 Күн бұрын
It depends. In the original movie, it was a quasi-feudal society with nobility. Darth Vader was a Noble of the family Vader and in charge of some planet or part of the galaxy, like how Ned Stark was "Lord Stark" and was in charge of Winterfell. "Lords" can also be Dukes or Barons or Counts...Duke Leto Atreides was also Lord of Calaban and Baron Harkonnen was Lord of Geidi Prime. Later on Lucas changed all that & his rank was Personal Enforcer & Right Hand Man of the Emperor.
@theoneyoudontsee-c8o
@theoneyoudontsee-c8o 46 минут бұрын
his rank was mostly who respected him and could reason with him and earn the same in return. in modern times he would be a major general in usaf on what is called "detached taskforce command" meaning he is in charge of what ever he is doing with handpicked fleet. basically, a moff not grand moff but also a political officer. so if he wanted he would have the emperor on speed dial if a grand moff or moff with sector command told him no so command formalities was mostly meaningless and again he would be in charge of what ever he was doing and who could tell him no?!
@kendalldawson7922
@kendalldawson7922 18 сағат бұрын
Think you took a long way to say Darth Vader in the Empire was like the Jedi to Galactic Republic's Senate, Generals in war? Or a general* for Emperor Palpatine?
@sopretentious
@sopretentious 19 сағат бұрын
As was custom with Sith lords, he would kill his master and take his place. Except he died himself, severing the sith lineage. But he was always nr 2 under Palpatine.
@fixipszikon6670
@fixipszikon6670 Күн бұрын
Vader is the right hand of the Emperor, so the second in command. Although the Moffs and Grand Moffs have local authority, and in the military the Grand Admirals and Generals have complete authority, Vader has the right to interfere or take over command. Vader has no official title besides being a Lord, but he outranks everyone in the Empire except the Emperor.
@JasonPruett
@JasonPruett Күн бұрын
i always thought it was odd " enough vader release him !" "as you wish" ...??? another part thast confusing when vader tells luke "you have constructed your own light saber your training is complete " i would like to know more about that please
@TheJdlocklear
@TheJdlocklear 16 сағат бұрын
If you look at the the third prequel you will see where Darth Vader in his fight against Obi-Wan Kenobi got seriously burned and all they had really left was his torso legs gone arms gone that explains why I had to order the soup he couldn't his lungs was so burnt and he couldn't breathe on his own the suit was on his way he could survive and live
@Mk101T
@Mk101T 2 сағат бұрын
4:10 Huh ? What do you mean it is a mystery how and when he suffered burns ? End of episode III "Revenge of the Sith" His fight with Obi-Wan Kenobi , burned by lava .
@RetneysHolocron
@RetneysHolocron Сағат бұрын
I’m quoting the book I’m citing. It’s written by a character in-universe who didn’t know how Vader was burned
@Mk101T
@Mk101T Сағат бұрын
@@RetneysHolocron Oh I see ... I guess I missed that detail .
@JeffEbe-te2xs
@JeffEbe-te2xs Күн бұрын
It was a political rank Equal to or above Governor or grand admiral Depending who it was
@davefuller84
@davefuller84 Күн бұрын
Sith Lord and Enforcer, Voice and Hammer of the Emperor. He needed no rank
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