Battle of the Ports - Super Street Fighter II X / Turbo (スーパーストリートファイターII X) Show

[@reerjgiorge]

The pc version was one of the most impressive adaptations ive ever bought. Including the music, amazing quality. And the package... was simply gorgeous.

[@thiagomartini4202]

His ears must be bugged to say the music on PC version is "poor"... 16:00 it's simply the best among all ports! And the missing animations were corrected with 1.6 patch

[@Bartnick81]

From what I recall and see here PC version didn't run in 50/60 fps which is deal breaker

[@dropkickmonk3y]

PC version was and still is one of the best out there. Didn’t like the adlib-sound card version, prefer the redbook audio.

[@camulodunon]

@@Bartnick81 yes, it did so long as your PC isn't crap.

[@Bartnick81]

@@camulodunon Retrocore has crap PC? Or it is dos emulation fault.

[@crunchsixfoe]

They don't call the Dreamcast version "For Matching Service", for nothing ;)

[@IceDelight]

HD Remix wasn't that bad. You could change the sprites back to the originals (not the backgrounds though) and its netcode was fantastic. When it came out, there weren't many places or people in person to play with anymore, so playing online was great. The remixed music was better than any of the older remixes (like 3DO) and by the way, the version in this video was the beta, Ken was changed a lot in the final version. Also many versions before this had little choice when it came to arcade joysticks, but the Xbox 360 and PS3 had great ones. Unless you built your own for older consoles, the best you could get was the official Dreamcast stick. But even that was only as good as the lowest end sticks on 360.

[@MVC2fan1]

Trial version

[@DJZeeJay]

I agree with the soundtrack. The remixed soundtrack was done by composers who'd have their works posted at the Overclocked remix website. And they were really good!

[@TheGemini5]

I agree 100% I love the soundtrack!

[@mariosonicfan8312]

You can play the original soundtracks in HD Turbo too..

[@jesuszamora6949]

The original sprites in HDR were washed out, though, really wasn't a pleasant look. THAT part, I feel was a rush job. They just threw the most ghastly, cheap filter they could find and called it a day. Rest of the package was pretty good, though.

[@ahuman9864]

SF2 is definitely in the top 5 most iconic soundtracks. Up there with Mario, Sonic, Streets of Rage and Outrun

[@FinalBaton]

Thanks for the review. My fave way to play the game is the Dreamcast port, with a Total Control 3 adapter that lets me use the Saturn pad. I also play the rom on Fightcade.

[@RetroCore]

The Total Control 3 adaptor is a must for Dreamcast fighting fans. I use one myself too.

[@greenchilaquiles]

Seconded. Through VGA Toro box into a vga monitor

[@rustymixer2886]

@@RetroCore mine stopped working after 13 times or so then I bought expensive asaii 6 button controller but thats too much money

[@coffee84]

So addicted to the battle of Ports series :)

[@ThatWhiskeylovinAsianGuy]

when you said the hd remix version is rubbish, you are quite correct, sir.

[@mOczakowski]

More specifically the controls are weak, music and graphics are quite well gone.

[@Ninja-Hayate]

A celshaded Street Fighter II game would look better than Udon's garbage.

[@najma9857]

Are you gay?

[@Darknight0681]

@@Ninja-HayateUdon originally actually had better visuals in a lot places, but the issue was that Capcom forced them to change it before release, which is where a lot of the visual issues with it come from.

[@bawitback]

Saturn and Dreamcast are the best for me.

[@bryantnonya8704]

Sega Saturn and Dreamcast will forever be the king of 2D fighters!

[@ps-lover8380]

@@bryantnonya8704 what about s n e s

[@bryantnonya8704]

@@ps-lover8380 the SNES actually deserves to be on the list somewhere because of its ability to bring high-quality albeit a bit downgraded ports of some of the most popular arcade fighters to home console... this was a really big deal being able to stay home and play against your friends on a home console without having to dump money into a machine and if your of a younger generation you probably won't have an appreciation for just how pivotal that was in the eruption of home consoles becoming favored over arcade machines...

[@greensun1334]

@@ps-lover8380 i have it, play it, love it! This Game push the Limits of the SNES, looks and sounds much better than the 3DO- or AmigaCD32-Ports and the Gameplay is near Arcade-perfect! And this in just 16bit... Amazing!

[@ps-lover8380]

@@greensun1334 yeah exactly

[@jbmaru]

Thanks for this Battle, I only saw the 3DO and DOS port when they came out, and vaguely heard of some of the other ones. So it's great to watch a summary in one video.

[@Schmeck626]

I have been waiting for this battle episode for a long time. I spent the last year searching for the most authentic Super Street Fighter II Turbo experience. After playing almost every version in this episode I gave up and bought the CPS2 arcade board. It cost a small fortune, but it was only slightly more expensive than the Dreamcast version. I love the show, keep up the good work.

[@RetroCore]

+Schmeck626 the CPS version would be the ultimate way to go but if a console version way the only option then you'd be so write to go with the Dreamcast version. Thats a fantastic port.

[@thejacquio771]

+Retro Core Yes, the dreamcast version is definitely the best port. I also have two different ascii ft pads for the dreamcast, so I do not have to deal with the mediocre dreamcast controller. SSF2X also looks very impressive playing on a HD television with the use of a vga cord.

[@Darknight0681]

One thing that’s not mentioned is that no version got the Q Sound stereo separation correct up until the Dreamcast and then Hyper SF2 on PS2 and on.

[@RetroCore]

That is true.

[@TheRealDustinNunn]

The arcade, Saturn and Dreamcast versions of SSF2T/SSF2TX are the best, hands down.

[@steve5123456789]

What's best between the saturn and dreamcast version?

[@rustymixer2886]

@TrueSinister some say saturn because Saturn's 6 button controller

[@radiantansel202]

@@rustymixer2886 Controller is not a factor to prefer a port, the DC version is superior, bar none Want to use another controller? Go use an adapter or arcade stick It's very stupid to prefer a port that could be worse just because your default controller is better

[@rustymixer2886]

@@radiantansel202 yes it is, the dpad on dc sucks compared to Saturn's and 6 face buttons are better than 4...ok play street fighter on 3do controller then, good luck 💡

[@stucazzo2000]

@@rustymixer2886 I'm late to the party... :) I just played the Dreamcast version, and was not impressed by the music quality in it. It seemed like it was coming from a tin can or something was dialed way up in the mixing of the audio. I'm about to try the Saturn port for the audio.

[@danholo]

I quite enjoy the HD Remix OST. Enjoyable episode, thanks.

[@luisreyes1963]

This time, there are 2 superior ports for Sega systems, the Dreamcast & Saturn. I find nothing wrong with the HD Remix of Super Street Fighter II Turbo for the XBOX 360, as the backgrounds got a much needed visual boost. And Cammy is still a cutie!

[@Ai-fj1dc]

Super Street Fighter II X. That game is pure gold. It's, like, the fighting game that definitely got me in the genre.

[@SegaFanatic5188]

Dreamcast and Saturn are probably the best ports. Only real downside to the Saturn version is it runs at 352x224 instead of 384x224 like the Arcade, Dreamcast, and PS1 versions.

[@TheCooterpuppet]

TrekkiesUnite you can skew the resolution on a framemeister - but it’s still a tad off, hardly noticeable on a modern tv though

[@Darknight0681]

It was 320 x 224. The PS1 ports were 360 x 224. Often times on Saturn because of this the character appeared larger, but the overall play field were smaller and lifebars either got moved around, or when applicable the character portraits got moved under the health bars instead of to the side of them.

[@Silanda]

As good as it is, IMO they were a little lazy with some aspects of the Saturn port. Even if they couldn't have easily scaled all the graphics to account for the difference in resolution, they certainly should have done something about the character select screen. It's not so bad on Turbo, but plain Super has text cut off the sides of the screen. Sloppy and easily noticeable. Judging from other ports like Symphony of the Night on the Saturn, X-Men: CoTA on PC, etc, I guess the tools to automatically scale graphics without ugly nearest neighbour artefacts weren't readily available at the time. Some ports did manage it though.

[@Darknight0681]

Silanda that would require a rework of the graphics, and by this point most companies wanted to leave that element of the 16 bit era behind. Especially for games like this. Also for the above, the Dreamcast version is 640x480 with upscale visuals.

[@FinalBaton]

Saturn runs at 320 I'm pretty sure. And I think so does the dreamcast (well 320 doubled to 640). The ps1 actually has a 384 mode, which is what the Street Fighter Alpha 3 port runs at actually.

[@SaminPK]

Thanks. great comparison. However missing Street Fighter 15th Anniversary collection from PS2 and Original Xbox. These were arcade perfect ports with enhanced music and a more reasonable difficulty.

[@magalhaes5243]

Dreamcast wins! Perfect!

[@BIGGIEDEVIL]

The controller is complete garbage for fighting games

[@typhoonth8689]

@@BIGGIEDEVIL Dreamcast had many third-party controllers. Fighting stick is not exception.

[@someinterwebguy6452]

It looks like the DC and Saturn ports are the ones to get. The GBA port is pretty fun to play as well. I always regretted that Capcom didn't bring Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo to the SNES/Genesis instead of the regular version, as those consoles did a decent job with the game IMO. It would have been nice to see a 32X version of Turbo as well. Thanks for another great episode.

[@RetroCore]

+Someinterweb guy It really is so trange the way the SFC / SNES didn't get it but did get Street Fighter Zero 2 / Alpha 2. But as it stands I think the best home port is the Dreamcast version using a Saturn control pad via an adapter. If that's not an option then the Saturn port is the one to get.

[@Darknight0681]

Of this bunch, the Dreamcast and Arcade are the only two proper versions. Every other one mangled something either on gameplay, or presentation.

[@GuiSantosMUGEN]

Dreamcast is the best and most complete port for sure!

[@Darknight0681]

Gui Santos of straight up Super Turbo, no doubt. You could even make that version have properties of specific revisions of the game through dip switches.

[@Darknight0681]

Because they actually tried to make it a gameplay accurate port instead of the mangled messes they made beforehand. That was its biggest selling point outside of the online play.

[@daitenshi9124]

07:24 - My gracious, that punish was sick.

[@totalprocall6894]

Hyper Street Fighter 2 on PS2 is all anyone ever needs.

[@Arcadiality]

I love the Saturn version. It plays well enough for me and with the jp pad it's a nice play. The SF2 collection on Saturn is my most favourite though, an awesome disc.

[@rustymixer2886]

What games are on it? Sfa2gold and ssf2turbo?

[@AceTrainerX3]

@@rustymixer2886 Disc 1 has Super and Super Turbo/X, while Disc 2 has Alpha 2 Gold/Zero 2'

[@rustymixer2886]

@@AceTrainerX3 ah thought gold was exclusive to ps1, cool on saturn

[@JoeyJ0J0]

3DO port was incredible, the new soundtrack was great. I have so many versions of Super Turbo, the GBA version was decent

[@Darknight0681]

That soundtrack is the only reason most people hold it in high regard. Take that away and this port was left with too many problems to count. Sure it was the first port of its type but even back then I knew something wasn’t quite right about it.

[@fallofsaigon]

FABULOUS!!! Thanks for making my Sunday! :)

[@RetroCore]

+fallofsaigon You're very welcome :)

[@Linkenfant]

Now include Ultra SFII for Nintendo Switch :) Great video!

[@retrovideogamejunkie]

it the same xbla/psn version with 2 mugen characters...

[@Darknight0681]

retrovideogamejunkie It uses HDR’s art, but it’s a totally different game. From what I understand, Hyper Street Fighter 2 is used as its base, and there are several changes totally different from HDR.

[@MVC2fan1]

You mean 2 characters from different fighting games (instead of mugen characters). One from Capcom Vs. SNK 2: Mark of the Millennium, and one from SVC Chaos: SNK Vs. Capcom.

[@kamranki]

Fantastic comparison video! Thanks for this.

[@shinkazama3959]

Arcade, Saturn & 3DO (just for the remixed audio) versions all the way, here in the West (Australia) I own the Playstation version however I would much rather own the Saturn version yet that version off the Street Fighter Collection goes for stupid money these days so I can't justify it, still, I can dream! :)

[@Darknight0681]

Saturn version was terrible just like the PS1 release. Both had messed up gameplay. And the 3DO was those two versions, with even more stuff missing and more mangled gameplay.

[@earlduran6419]

If you use headset then you listen very closely the PlayStation does have little audio compression.

[@stoicvampirepig6063]

Great video Yakumo, really enjoyed that...that original chip music made me cry a bit.

[@RetroCore]

+StoicVampire Pig Yeah, the original chip music to Super Street Fighter is iconic. I love Cammy's theme the most but that's not to say the others are bad. Most of the music in this game is fantastic!

[@Ramjet164]

I have the 3do, gba & dreamcast versions. The 3do was by far the best port when released, the gba port is solid for a handheld port and the dreamcast port is beautiful!

[@masterlee1988]

You can reduce the load times of the PS1 version to be shorten(like 3 seconds of loading) by playing it on PS2 and setting the disc read speed to fast, it fixes that and I have a youtube playthrough of it as Chun Li where there's proof of that.

[@Darknight0681]

mitu123Copper true, but that versions problems went well beyond load times.

[@Darknight0681]

jgfjgfify there were numerous differences to the way the game played. The Turbo speeds were all slower for one. Guile has “CPS1” chains which no character was supposed to have in the newer engine. Chun Li’s upkicks were bugged, I think the MK one made her fall FAR slower than normal. Ken, Dhalsim, and Sagat gained reversal supers when they didn’t have one normally. Chun Li and Honda couldn’t “store” their charge supers on here either. Then there was the total absence of Q Sound stereo separation, but that was practically ALL ports until the Dreamcast and on.

[@reifagundes7069]

Ralph Pollard I mean for crying out loud. DSP placed 4th at evo 2005 with the ps1 version and can't even beat randoms online on regular super turbo so something is up with the ps1 port.

[@Darknight0681]

Jason Fagundes what happened is that they decided to use the PS1 version at EVO that year when practically everyone there was used to the actual arcade game, and it’s gameplay. Of course when it came time to actually play on the real shit, DSP literally dies for free.

[@SharonisCarin321]

@@Darknight0681 i hope its ok i still love the ps1 version. I play Street Fighter casually and just have fun with the game

[@kwizzeh]

Many years later, the best home port now is found on the Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection. While the online is ok at best even though it's rollback, it's still the best ST home port out there since it's almost arcade perfect.

[@joshi_6887]

e m u l a t i o n so it doesnt count in this comparison even if it did exist back then

[@andy7666]

Having played SFII on SNES as a kid and drooling over the arcade versions of the franchise for so many years I'm still always chuffed to play a great conversion like the Saturn and Dreamcst ports (and in RGB on a CRT). Great stuff, you can't beat that! I personally really liked the HD Remix - it does what it says on the tine, the music was alright too, especially Zangiefs stage - it's not "Cammy level" standard by any means but nice and the tunes are decent overall..

[@captaincommando2602]

-The Best: Saturn version. -The Worst: Amiga CD32.

[@Sut1978]

I was going to post that you would be quite happy which ever port you had as they all seem to play well. Then along came the CD32 version 😮

[@RetroCore]

+Martin Sutcliffe hehehe, you can always count on at least one port being complete crap. Even Amiga CD32 fans admit it's awful. I'd say it's bad more because of the developer, not the hardware.

[@eazypeazy]

very enjoyable episode of one of the best games ever! thank you!

[@RetroCore]

Cheers! I'm happy that this Battle of the Ports has been pretty popular.

[@Mr.madmight266]

I L♡VE the MS-DOS version of SSF2X/Turbo along with the CD soundtrack, it may not be as great as the soundtrack of the 3DO and FM-Towns versions but it's a nice attempt to refresh the soundtrack while offering something new, and it's miles better than the soundtrack of the recent versions. the AI however acts a little weird sometimes cause they cancel certain moves that they would do in any other version, and i also noticed that Vega/Balrog doesn't lose his claw after taking some hits. but the most interesting thing on the DOS version is that you can fight Gouki in some ocasions even if your using continues with Bison/Vega, though sadly Gouki's theme doesn't exist in the DOS version. Flaws aside it does play well and it's a nice package considering the DOS version apparently was fairly cheap when it came out, you could even send a mail i think, and they would send you a controller, though i belive it was a 4 button controller which is bad cause everyone knows SF2 works better with a 6 button joystick.

[@neofluxarmor6554]

3:18 Darksydephil's favorite version. LOL

[@dropkickmonk3y]

Loved the MS DOS Version.

[@Darkfirewolf12]

the gba was my 1sy port and it still holds well for me after all these years now

[@SuperKokuJin916]

You forgot to mention that the HD Remix version allows you to play with the original sprites, hitboxes, and music for the purist hardcore fans that didn't like the new changes. It's a great version if you have an arcade stick... but, yeah, the Saturn version is the best outside of the arcade.

[@iamthomaschoo]

whats with the life bar in the ps1 version?

[@alexojideagu]

How can you say the MS-DOS music is poor? Much of it is better than the 3DO port

[@SuperKokuJin916]

Zangief, Cammy and Blanka's were pretty good arrangements in particular.

[@CAPTAPHOENIXF90]

what can you tell about Ultra S.F. II the Final Challengers performance?

[@RetroCore]

Nothing I'm afraid. I've not played that one.

[@MVC2fan1]

Its on Nintendo Switch, which you gonna have trouble using the Joycons. I recommend you must get the Nintendo switch pro controller.

[@iamthomaschoo]

amiga 32 has the best blanka bite throw animation

[@z3ntn3l]

Hi Yakumo! Really nice video and thanks for your work! One thing i noticed: The aspect ratio of the PS1 version video capture seems to be wrong (is it widescreen?) and it looks really weird/distorted. Probably just a non-original resolution setting in the emulator.

[@RetroCore]

This is an issue I have with PlayStation emulation. The video intros are all fine at 4:3 ratio but the actual in game graphics are always stretched. They're not true 16:9 wide-screen but close. I've tried fixing this problem with different settings but can never get it right.

[@mOczakowski]

Man Capcom really milked the hell out of SF2 series on all the consoles, except one... NeoGeo, which was about 4X more powerful than CPS1 arcade board, and it would have been a fantastic port for the NeoGeo fans (one more fighter on the console :P)

[@genstarmkg5321]

Well, but at the time, Capcom was competing with SNK in the arcade boards side, that's why we didn't see a Neo Geo port, we instead got this console by Capcom called the CPS Changer which is basically the arcade board on a console. And yes, it received SF2 ports.

[@jesuszamora6949]

The Dreamcast version is amazing, clearly the king of the ports here, with the Saturn close behind, followed by the PSX, which would have had a good chance if not for that damned loading. I actually have the PSX version, and even back then I could just FEEL myself aging while playing it. The 3DO was a valiant effort, but with that controller, it just wasn't going to be good. You NEED the Capcom pad or an SNES adapter to even think about playing this one. HDR was pretty cool, too. I'm not sure I'd say the voice samples for that one were all right, and I definitely don't agree that the music was rubbish. I found it quite enjoyable, albiet not the highest quality that OCRemix has ever put out. The announcer sounds like it was a new voice, though, and not a very good one either. As to the art, honestly I found the UDON work on the characters great, but some of the backgrounds seem... Off, for lack of a better term, especially Dhalsim's stage. Sad they used those backgrounds for Ultra...

[@MohsinJavedCheema]

MS DOS has the best soundtrack ever even better than 3DO

[@johnxxiiii]

Mohsin Javed no way.

[@UltraEpicLeader10020]

X6800 laughs at such a bullshit statement.

[@fifaworldcup1994]

Don't attack him like that. Everyone has their own opinion.

[@camulodunon]

@@UltraEpicLeader10020 only in your dreams.

[@NightSprinter]

Also for DOS, it came with a six button pad (much like the garbage DOS port of New Challengers, which be thankful that you didn't get sound running on, and the okish port of MegaMan X). The controller used all four P1 axes and buttons, two buttons from P2 (how a PC 4-button pad worked), and parts of the two axes from P2 to get all six working. Also unlike New Challengers, the MIDI music was DECENT! Oh, on the art style for HD Remix: the graphics were done by Udon Comics. They did the Street Fighter and Darkstalkers comics from a few years back.

[@RetroCore]

+NightSprinter can't say I'm a fan of the Udon Comics HD remix style to be honest.

[@NightSprinter]

+Retro Core Yeah, the comic art just doesn't translate well to a fighting game. Let me know if there will be a BotP of X-Men: Children of the Atom. I have some footage of the DOS version that might surprise you.

[@Tempora158]

+NightSprinter The problem is comic book illustrators are not the same as animators and it painfully shows in HD Remix. Skullgirls also has a similar comic book style but that looks fantastic because it is drawn by animators.

[@NightSprinter]

+Tempora158 Bingo. It's more the SG artists didn't try to adapt something to a game, because they were making the game's art.

[@RetroCore]

NightSprinter I didn't know there was a DOS port. I'd be happy to credit you for the footage.

[@sabishiihito]

The biggest issue with the original arcade version of SSF2X/Turbo is that playing on anything other than slowest, the stages don't all run at the same speed! Zangief's, Sim's, Claw's and Sagat's stages run super fast compared to something like Ryu's stage.

[@Darknight0681]

sabishiihito Sounds like the arcade game was running without a FPS cap. So it makes sense for some stages to go faster than others.

[@PrimevalDemon]

Hd remix is pretty milling especially soundtrack wise but boxers theme "Sexy Trunks " is essential! Almost redeems the entire soundtrack imo

[@samviolet398]

whats up with the health bar in your ps1 emulator?

[@DanielAyy]

I like that the Amiga CD32 version is tucked away in the corner, as if to shame it. It certainly deserves it Also, for some reason, I like the 3DO port more than the Saturn and arcade version. I have a bit of a soft spot for it, it might be because of the music or that it's one of the best games for the 3DO.

[@RetroCore]

Probably because that and Samurai Shodown are the best games on the 3DO.

[@williamwilliam9993]

Do you use ePSXe for playstation emulation in battle of the ports?

[@RetroCore]

Sometimes. Depends if I own the original game or not. If I have the original disc I'll use a PlayStation console.

[@jesuszamora6949]

ePSXe is a terrible emulator. Honestly, if you're not using Retroarch or Bizhawk, I'd go with Duckstation or PCSX-Reloaded/Redux....

[@leonardoantonio8756]

Good show! I like the sound mix of the 3DO, sounds awesome, I didn't know about the Dreamcast port, or the msdos. The remake looks great, but the 3DO bgm still the best..

[@RetroCore]

+Leonardo The 3DO game was amazing when it first came out. It was one of the few really good games for the system IMO.

[@leonardoantonio8756]

Retro Core indeed the sound mix is excelent. What other games do you recommend for the 3DO?

[@RetroCore]

Not many. I find most 3DO games to be dull. They're mostly American titles which back then were dark, ugly and well.... not very good IMO. But you should know that the almighty policenaughts started life on the 3DO as did the D series of games.

[@leonardoantonio8756]

Retro Core Yeah, not a system worthy of an entire Retro Core Volume I guess.. by the way I was thinking of a RC volume but with only shytes of the month games.. haha what do you think?

[@RetroCore]

Leonardo yeah, that would be fun. A show of shit :) Maybe sometime down the line.

[@greensun1334]

Dreamcast is the Arcade-truest Port of them all, no Question...

[@Silanda]

In every way except that it uses ugly nearest neighbour scaling to scale the arcade's 384x224 resolution to the Dreamcast's 640x480. It's sharp looking, but it means that the pixel sizes are inconsistent when every pixel should be the same size. It makes the graphics look more blocky than they should, it shimmers in motion, and I honestly can't stand how that looks. Personally I'd take filtered scaling instead, as was used in HSF2 on the PS2, though not everyone likes that look either so YMMV. It should have been an option IMO. Vampire/Darkstalkers on the DC has the same problem. Before the emulated versions, every home release of SSF2T had its own issues. Even some of the emulated versions had their own issues.

[@greensun1334]

@@Silanda for me, the SNES-Port is the Best, I like it more than the Arcade-Original. Much faster and smoother Gameplay. The Megadrive-Port is practically indentical but the Sound is just a big painful Experience...

[@leehurst6922]

What do you mean by a slow version that doesn't remove any frames?

[@2003gamertoadettemario]

it means that frames are slow man idoitic people ask tooo many questions ☹️☹️☹️☹️

[@TyroneLWarbasse]

Cool. Putting in Japanese letters in the description. I like the 3DO version personally, though I find nothing wrong with any of the versions myself. That's just me.

[@RetroCore]

I put the Japanese names of the games in since I'm located in Japan. Surprisingly 13% of my traffic is from Japan.

[@TyroneLWarbasse]

Mine too for some reason, though in my case a few views, not a lot Good work 👍

[@Ai-fj1dc]

Seriously, I think that the GBA version is great. It has beautiful animations and the gameplay is responsive.

[@workingmanbh]

When it was lauched, i just got out of the school bus, at the corner of my street, and went to the bar/arcade. Geez, right after me and my brother were there, they installed SSF2T. Man, can you imagine the hypeness, the curiosity, the misterious things like the new bar, new intro ? And the super combo commands weren't included, so we were blind for a long time after the commands were in game magazines here in Brasil. And i played the Dos version back then, i didn't have the perception, for me was a good game. Played the 3do version at a game rent place.... What a perfection (at the time). Now i just love my Saturn version here :) (for the game speeds, i don't like the frakking speedier turbo... I prefer playing on Turbo 1, which is a little faster than the SSF2, but 2 and 3 are unbeareable to me. The game is already difficulty, more speed only fck you...)

[@RetroCore]

+Filipe Lana I know the hype so well. I was also visiting the arcades a lot at the time of release. It was an amazing time. The 3DO post was amazing too back in the day. It's such a shame that the 3DO controller is horrible to use. Playing it with a good stick though made the game so much better. I kind of agree with the s@eed settings. Turbo 1 is just right.

[@ahuman9864]

Ok firstly, if we're talking about the best SSF2T you have to take a few things into consideration. The first being display, input and hardware. The Saturn has the FM Yamaha Sound chip which is considered the best sound chip available pre 128bit era. Also, the Saturn architecture is mid 90's Sega arcade hardware lets not forget that, this means capcoms cps2 programming came right over. Saturn was the perfect platform. Also If you run a scart cable into a RGB converter into a CRT TV you will have SUPERIOR color and pixel!! Saturn version also doesnt lose any sprite animation. So, better sound and visual Saturn is the best home port. So what about controller? Well Saturn has 6 face buttons. Seriously, Saturn wins on all fronts.

[@RetroCore]

What can I say apart from, I agree. Also the Saturn's resolution CPS boards resolutions are different but only slightly.

[@ShadowFeline]

Which of these versions have cpu vs cpu?

[@RetroCore]

Hmm, I don't recall.

[@Konsker]

love the dos and amiga versions for the music

[@MagisterHamid]

The GBA version is impressive!

[@tunkunrunk]

this version with power gauge and hidden Akuma was sadly never released on snes nor sega megadrive

[@hybridplc]

Saved the best till last :)

[@dropkickmonk3y]

HD remixed was such a haste job.

[@tightlypackedcoil]

The 3DO version was overrated! Once you see that there's only one background layer, it looks like the fighters are in front of a projector screen and you can't unsee the illusion.

[@greensun1334]

Even my SNES-Port has Parallax-Scrolling...

[@rustymixer2886]

@@greensun1334 thats wasnt ssf2turbo it was ssf2

[@pcbjunkie1]

I've got the arcade version of this game on CPS2 hardware. Got two of them in fact. One is the tournament edition that allows 4 cabinets to be linked together for tournament style play. Who remembers that? Anyway, I would go to the arcade in my teenage years and would be able to stay playing this machine for hours without losing. Yes, that means I'm still better at it than you... lol!

[@mikestein1024]

I got the arcade 1 up version I wonder how it measures while I'm aware of the mono sound which I really did not notice it plays really well

[@steve5123456789]

Whats the best version between the Saturn and Dreamcast version?

[@RetroCore]

Saturn. It just feels that tinny bit better.

[@steve5123456789]

@@RetroCore Thanks. I'll hunt this one. It's better than the Street Fighter Collection on Saturn?

[@RetroCore]

Hmm, that I don't remember. Sorry.

[@dyscotopia]

It was very rare indeed when we Amiga owners got a good Capcom port... Even rarer than with Sega!

[@fnjesusfreak]

Surprised the DOS version didn't make use of Mode X 320x240 graphics (though to be fair, that wasn't exactly a documented mode).

[@221b]

The CP System II arcade board ran at a resolution of 384x224, so 320x240 would still have lacked in horizontal resolution and it would have had more vertical resolution than the game's art was designed for. It was possible to do 384x224x256 on a VGA card, but it would have been difficult to program, slower, and could have caused compatibility problems with some monitors.

[@fnjesusfreak]

221b 360x224 may have been more viable. VGA monitors had to at least support a screen width of 720, so 360 doesn't seem like a stretch.

[@MrUltimatemaniac100]

Would have been good if you showed the differences you were referring to. 👍

[@ManaNaito]

Glad to know that I am not the only one who dislike the music in that HD Remix travesty.

[@quakecon2009]

My fav game of all time.

[@RetroArcadeGuy]

Why didn't you add the SSF2 ports on Mega Drive and SNes? or is this a totally diferent game?

[@RetroCore]

Because this video is for Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo (X in Japan). The Mega Drive and SNES games are normal Super Street Fighter 2. Please see my other Super Street Fighter 2 video for those versions.

[@Shundi12]

I always liked the music in HD Remix.

[@RichardAllenSB]

Yeah seriously, in what way was the HD Remix soundtrack rubbish?? It was lovingly crafted by fan musicians on ocremix.org and officially included by Capcom.

[@supersonics5000]

+Richard Allen Agree

[@doktoroptimo]

it was made by amateurs and it sucks

[@ShannonsCompany]

optimus prime no it wasn't it was made by fans which love the game not like you

[@izzie31]

I like it very mellow.

[@batlin]

Strange artifacts in Ryu's health bar around 4:50 ... I wonder if it's an emulation glitch or actually in the port?

[@RetroCore]

That's just a poor emulation glitch. Quite a strange one too.

[@socialengineering2539]

1.Dreamcast 2.saturn 3.3do 4.gba

[@Linkenfant]

Isn't 224p the resolution of the SNES ports (and most of its games)? I think the Arcade games are 240pbut I may be wrong. Also HD Remix runs at 720p natively as far as I know, it's not 1080p. :)

[@Darknight0681]

Linkenfant Arcade is 224 too. The problem is that the 16 bit games cut off 16 pixels from the bottom and top.

[@trinidadmetroid]

Ps1, and ps2 versions were quite good to be honest.

[@BRockin25]

Dreamcast version looks tremendous. It is ok to call the entire port of HD remix "rubbish" and not just the soundtrack

[@RetroCore]

+BRockin25 I have to say that I agree with you there.

[@BRockin25]

+Retro Core Thanks for the response, and fantastic job on all the Battle of the Ports. Informative and well presented every time.

[@RetroCore]

You're welcome. The next show just happens to be another Capcom Fighter. Hopefully it will be out on Saturday. If not then the day after.

[@adrenalinex4]

Fuck no hd remix has some good tracks on it.

[@RetroTuna]

nice video mate

[@ArturikGDL]

Excellent video my friend!! Best version for me: Dreamcast. I loved how speed could be adjusted and even you can play 9 rounds. Best music for me: 3DO. Its the same music used to hyper street fighter 15th aniversary for ps2 and xbox. (Im disapointed with the HD REMIX version. The music was selected from ocremix dj's, and its nasty) If this game have been released to SNES, it would have been one of the best versions in 1994.

[@cpnnpr]

Another classic episode. Thanks!

[@RetroCore]

+cpnnpr No problem. Maybe you'd also like the X-Men Children of the Atom show? - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmfVY2umqLGtn8U

[@stratogustav]

Does anyone knows what kind of upright cabinet the CPS II used? I know it had to be a JAMMA, I mean Winners Don't Use Drugs, but was it a Q25? I remember seeing this game in some sort of OB50 which isn't upright.

[@RetroCore]

It wouldn't matter as long as the cabinet had a Jamma interface. In fact, in Japan they don't use upright cabinets, they're all sit down style. I beleive most arcade cabinets are Jamma compatable and even if they're not you should be able to get a Jamma interface harness for them.

[@jesuszamora6949]

@@RetroCore Well, "sit down" style is relative. When I hear that description, I always think of cocktail arcade machines, and there's no fucking way I'm playing Street Fighter in that configuration.

[@tatsujin07]

Hyper Street Fighter II for PS2 - best port period.

[@kyo2975]

What the hell is with the emulation on your PlayStation version?

[@GRNDZA108]

I had no idea there was a CD32 version. I always thought it was odd that Capcom never cashed in on this game on 16-bit consoles, I just assumed 3DO had some kind of console exclusivity deal at the time. Maybe the CD32 being compatible with Amiga games gave Commodore a back door on that one?

[@shinkenji]

The PC version was the first version I owned at that time. It's also the version I played most. I am surprised that so much animation was missing compared to the original. I never noticed this back then. But I have to disagree with the arranged Soundtrack. I think the PC Version has one of the best SSFII arrangements. I especially like Cammys Theme in this version.

[@RetroCore]

+shinkenji Yeah, I also remember running the PC version back in the day thinking it was arcade perfect but looking back it was far from it. The music is a mixed bag in my opinion but I guess that's just down to personal taste.

[@ebicwin]

i believe Human Soft made some of the Clock Tower games

[@RetroCore]

They did.

[@Ace_of_DiscaL]

3DO has the best port in terms of music, gameplay, and smoothness. Hands down!

[@JimLeonard]

Was your CD32 emulator running at the full framerate? It looks much lower than it does on the real hardware.

[@RetroCore]

It may have something to do with it running in PAL mode?

[@JimLeonard]

No, as cd32 games are dual-region. Computer too slow?

[@RetroCore]

Jim Leonard Far from it. This PC can run the Witcher 3 or Metal Gear Solid V at the same specs as an XBOX One or PS4. Maybe the game really is that slow but you just remember it being faster?

[@JimLeonard]

I stand corrected. After some research, it seems as if that specific game really is that slow on the CD32. My apologies.

[@RetroCore]

No worries. We all remember things a little different to how we remember them.

[@Silanda]

Personally I'd be tempted to give the nod to the Playstation version over the Saturn version as the play area isn't quite as cropped on the sides (still cropped though). That loading though... urgh.

[@RedRanger2001]

The downside of the DC version is that you gotta beat the game with Turbo and Super versions of all characters. After that, highlight Options, hold Y and push Start. Also, as for the PS1 version, you need to invest either the fightpad or a fightstick, since the regular PS1/PS2 controller is awful for fighting games...

[@ashleyredacted3553]

Dreamcast version with the proper dipswitches is the closest to the arcade original. It should also be noted that the 3DO version, for all it's positives, is missing the ability to play as the (mostly, with some slight alterations on some characters) SSF2 versions of characters via character select codes. There's also a version on the PS2 and Xbox on Capcom Classics Collection Volume 2, which COULD have been perfect if it didn't suffer from having really bad input delay.

[@TimelostFlare]

I'm surprised you didn't talk about the exclusive PC version of Super Turbo. the one that had a whole different version of the soundtrack not found one the FM Towns or 3DO versions.

[@RetroCore]

I didn't know there was a special PC version :(

[@uubrmanx]

LunarStarStory Isn't that just the Eurocom port at 15:26 though?