JOKER vs SORA (Persona VS Kingdom Hearts) | REWIND RUMBLE

[@vegetadoll7354]

When Sora loses: Nobody cares When Joker loses: The chaos begins

[@eyistohernandez2996]

Fax lol

[@jackour8167]

Because Joker objectively slams Sora.

[@eyistohernandez2996]

He doesnt lol

[@jackour8167]

@@eyistohernandez2996 He does

[@eyistohernandez2996]

@@jackour8167 No Joker is Low Multiversal Level Since he shot Yaldabaoth in the face Killing him destroying the Metaverse while doing it. Yaldy is Powerful enough to Merge the universe with mementos and He could destroy the universe as a sport to him. Mementos is the Palace of Everyone And palaces are universe Sized like okumuras Palace Based on the Big Bang with planets stars Even galaxies. And later beated Maruki someone who is stronger than Yaldabaoth wanted to Merge the universe with the restored mementos again and Rewrite the universe to end suffering. And quintillions Mftl+ with a calc of a persona he has implied to eat the universe. But sora is a whole different Level. Worlds are Countless universes seen as stars and the ocean Between Is a 5-D Massive hyperspace and he tooked down X-Blade amped Xehanort who wanted to threaten and destroy the whole cosmology and he has infinite speed moving in the world of darkness a universe where time doesnt exist. He is more skilled And trained fighting Joker is smarter and more tactical but Sora has the experience and fighting skill and answer to Jokers hax except His passive fate hax but don't see How fate helps him to beat someone far Stronger and Faster than him

[@JustFightStudios]

The fight took my breath away! This was also one of the funniest episodes with all the interruptions. Also, my boy, It'sChidomonYT is animating the next fight!

[@FearlessReptileVA]

Awesome, as usual! Great job, guys! Very unique paring as well!

[@eobardjones2419]

My favorite part of the fight is

[@brandonwong8614]

Actually Sora doesn't need his friends to turn into other forms it's more of a Game mechanic, in plot he went to Valor form with Goofy still be there

[@StevenJones851]

So does Sora win or no??

[@zealkurusuthegatorman5439]

​@@StevenJones851Sora Wins.

[@22kingdomheartsfan]

@ItsHoverBoi (no ignore me allowed) Who reads comments before watching the video?

[@brandonwong8614]

It's why I didn't want to respond to avoid spoiling, though I guess I could've responded by saying that may or may not have an impact in the fight

[@StevenJones851]

@@zealkurusuthegatorman5439 ok cool thanks for telling me

[@ossyshooter256]

glad to see my boy sora getting more recognition in the fights

[@hadouradiance3566]

That was badass, I love the styles of the games clashing.

[@Shybandicoot1518]

That moment WHEN YOU WALK AWAY at your LAST SURPRISE

[@eobardjones2419]

Luigi mansion vs shadow the hedgehog 🦔

[@angusalfredwalke]

My favourite smash Bros match is finally here thank you animation rewind

[@eobardjones2419]

Luigi mansion vs shadow 🤔

[@TravionDelay]

Already know this Finna be fire

[@eobardjones2419]

Luigi vs shadow is fire

[@randyrandycontent]

These fight is going to be epic

[@jameslazaridis4180]

Excellent rewind rumble this is going to be the finest battle ever yet

[@obeserob5027]

Fantastic episode! Levi did great as Sora as did Vinny as Joker. Doesn't really effect the episode but I do wanna point out each "world" in kingdom hearts is universe sized themselves with it being established in dream drop that each "world" has their own space time (including worlds that are effectively the same like deep jungle's earth and toy box's earth). So even without factoring in the different realms, the X-blade beam Xehanort fired at Sora should be considered a multiversal feat in my opinion.

[@eobardjones2419]

What about planet Le vel

[@StareachValcin]

For the record, Sora is not shown to be stronger than the X-blade. He couldn't even defeat Xehanort armed with the X-blade without help. Plus, there is no evidence that Sora kept the X-blade, especially since he used it to close Kingdom Hearts, and the X-blade originally coexisted with Kingdom Hearts before the 1st keyblade war, and with Kingdom Hearts 3 returning the X-blade, it's safe to assume that it returned to coexist with Kingdom Hearts.

[@striker07927]

1. Sora deadass overpowered it and withstood a whole fight with it long enough for Xehanort to consider just turning him into darkness and he still swept Xehanort’s ass in Rage Form 2. Donald and Goofy deadass only held him up to blast the beam back, Sora was pulling literally all of the weight even when he “fell over” he was seen later to keep holding it up and realistically blast it back

[@meteornome2556]

The Re:Mind Limit Cut DLC shows that Sora could have beaten a X-Blade wielding Xehanort solo. Granted those are both data versions of the characters but they are based off of them in both skill and power. Sora himself probably lacked the confidence that he could beat him with the X-Blade without help so Xehanort was able to easily overpower him in the story.

[@sonomni]

The Data Fights in KH3 canonically meant Sora could defeat each of them in a 1 on 1 fight so..

[@Ty50nTheDummy]

Probably The Best Episode Of The Main Course Episodes Imo. Good Job. Not Really Into The Idea For Next Time, But Can't Wait To See What You Guys Do.

[@charsonic1771]

This was an awesome rumble and they stoled the spotlight and I’m excited for the next one

[@eobardjones2419]

@@charsonic1771 what about Luigi vs shadow

[@alexwood8091]

This is gonna be good

[@danielferrieri7434]

I just got into Kingdom Hearts, so this will fun to watch

[@Thequack4741]

I think Sora murdering a random man is a little odd

[@Themoo_atcows]

sora even tried talking to Yozora, so it’s a little strange that he just suddenly starts attacking some random guy

[@mitchellmariacher254]

So a little bit of correction, each "world" in the KH franchise is shown to be it's own cannon universe and since Xehanort was going to rewrite all of the "worlds" that means the blast that Sora took and dished out clearly scales him to multi-versal levels.

[@FrenzyFanboy]

The battle of Smash DLC

[@josephvargas7887]

My Top 20 of Rewind Rumble Ideas of 2023 And 2024: 1. Movie Mario (Illumination) Vs Movie Sonic (Paramount) Rewind Rumble 2. Mr. Beast Vs Pewdiepie (KZbinr Fight) Rewind Rumble 3. Movie Freddy Fazbear (Five Nights At Freddy's Movie 2023) Vs Movie Slenderman (Slenderman Movie 2018) Rewind Rumble 4. Sonic The Hedgehog Vs Sash Lilac 2 (Rematch) Rewind Rumble 5. Alastor (Hazbin Hotel) Vs Bill Cipher (Gravity Falls) Rewind Rumble 6. Mommy Long Legs (Poppy Playtime) Vs Spinel (Steven Universe) Rewind Rumble 7. Gru (Despicable Me) Vs Megamind (DreamWorks) Rewind Rumble 8. Steve (Minecraft) Vs Emmet (LEGO Movie) 2 (Rematch) Rewind Rumble 9. Huggy Wuggy (Poppy Playtime) Vs Bendy (Bendy And The Ink Machine) Rewind Rumble 10. Saitama (One Punch Man) Vs Eren Yeager (Attack All Titans) Rewind Rumble 11. Deku (My Hero Academia) Vs Asta (Black Clover) Rewind Rumble 12. Geno (One Punch Man) Vs Rusty Rose (Sonic Prime) Rewind Rumble 13. Luffy (One Piece) Vs Popeye (Popeye Series) Rewind Rumble 14. Cartoon Sonic (Adventure Of Sonic The Hedgehog) Vs Cartoon Flash (Super Friends) Rewind Rumble 15. Movie Dr. Eggman (Jim Carrey) Vs Movie Joker (Jack Nicholson) (Sonic Movie Vs Batman Movie 1989) Rewind Rumble 16. Buzz Lightyear (Disney Pixar) Vs LEGO Batman (Warner Bros) (Toy Story Vs LEGO Movie) Rewind Rumble 17. Bakugo (My Hero Academia) Vs Squidward Tentacles (SpongeBob SquarePants) Rewind Rumble 18. Jack Skellington (Disney) Vs Charlie Morningstar (Vivziepop) (Nightmare Before Christmas Vs Hazbin Hotel) Rewind Rumble 19. Blitzo (Helluva Boss) Vs Deadpool (Marvel) Rewind Rumble 20. Shaggy (Scooby Doo) Vs Son Goku (Dragon Ball Super) Rewind Rumble

[@gracepresence7079]

1: Nay 2: Nay 3: May 4: Nay 5: Nay 6: Nay 7: Yay 8: Nay 9: May 10: Nay 11: Nay 12: May 13: May 14: Yay 15: May 16: May 17: Nay 18: May 19: Nay 20: Nay

[@phuclonghuynhngoc1212]

Batman Vs Darth Vader, T-Rex Vs Carnotaurus( Jurassic World Vs Disney Dinosaur).

[@josephvargas7887]

@@phuclonghuynhngoc1212 How about Mommy Long Legs (Poppy Playtime) Vs Spinel (Steven Universe)

[@Willchannel90]

In Smash bros is uneasy. But original game is tough to debate.

[@jotarooraorasyourverse8446]

I had to watch this video to calm down after watching Gioker on Death Battle.

[@Phantosm]

Same

[@roboticraptorofstuff1558]

Cope n Seethe

[@jotarooraorasyourverse8446]

@@roboticraptorofstuff1558 Nah, I'd win.

[@yukigloommusic]

very fun one 🔥

[@El_Nit]

Joker wins wtf besides damage to Personas does not damage the user, and even if it did, Satanael is invulnerable

[@RedJLP]

On top of that, use the right Skill Card on a Persona or leave it in the Velvet Room for long enough and it develops a resistance, enhanced evasion or a full blown immunity to a particular attack type.

[@dannythekhexpert6468]

“Invulnerable” lol Okay so if Joker can just switch personas to make him immune to any and everything at any given time, what stops Sora from just perfectly guarding, dodging and aerial dodging, Reflega-ing and teleporting away from everything Joker throws at him, Joker has HP/SP management so Sora absolutely outlasts Joker in a war of attrition lol

[@El_Nit]

@@dannythekhexpert6468 Because Joker invulnerability is not skill at dodging, is something passive he does not need to do lol, and even without SP the invulnerability still works, and he can still heal himself with Satanael power like he already did

[@dannythekhexpert6468]

@@El_Nit No I know i know lol but if it were a matter of switching Persona that isn’t an entirely zero effort thing Joker still has do it, like Sora can just dodge and guard with a similar amount of effort, at the end of the day Joker himself is still physically a normal high school student and Sora being human is a major anomaly lol

[@El_Nit]

@@dannythekhexpert6468 Except changing personas is instant and tales basically 0 effort..besides he already had Satanael and he himself gives invulnerability, and even if he had to switch, the personas could just appear to help him in a hurry by their own

[@22kingdomheartsfan]

Great episode Rewind Rumble. Rewind's Maintenance Man is gonna be quite an interesting host, and his opening bit made me laugh. I also agree with the results (Cue the comments that says "Of course the guy with Kingdom Hearts written in their name says that"), but don't really agree with the placements for the characters (Like where Warlord placed Joker), but fight was still good, and I do at this point prefer the fights more. Looking forward to the next episode Rewind.

[@eobardjones2419]

Mainline rewind rumble is mid minus elsa vs frosone

[@22kingdomheartsfan]

@@eobardjones2419 Good for you.

[@eobardjones2419]

@@22kingdomheartsfan don't Even get me started on the cfc uploads every 5 months

[@22kingdomheartsfan]

@@eobardjones2419 Real life is hard on people, so they can't upload as often as they use to.

[@jessechavez5602]

Oh right the ability to survive an otherwise fatal blow with 1hp. Forgot about that skill

[@HantomPro]

awesome fight and video! ye!!!

[@Excusib7209-ty3mz]

"By the Myriad Truths"

[@The_Ozone]

Randy Cunningham Vs Samurai Jack Metabee (Medabots) Vs Captain Gundam (SD Gundam Force) Gorr the God Butcher (Marvel) Vs Kratos (God of War)

[@Keii898]

the first one is good

[@thedraftingax5963]

⁠@@Keii898 agreed

[@trentwillams7805]

WOW that was the awesome badass battle I have ever seen. WOW all the way 😮😊

[@angusparker2857]

7:19 Does Sora's magic come from: in himself or the keyblade?

[@spencerc4252]

the keyblade unlocked his ability to use magic, and since then can use it without needing the blade ... just less potent (although this is only based on KH1 where the blade rejected him, not sure how this works if we look at KH2 struggles where sora can use his moves seemlessly with a non-keyblade which could be used to argue that the gimp only applies when the blade itself rejects a wielder)

[@gracepresence7079]

Spoiler: The Smash Bros DLC wins

[@TheSSUltimateGoku]

Lmfao

[@tobimadara7539]

😂😂

[@charsonic1771]

Nice one

[@gregkareem9824]

Don't spoil it for me 🤦🏿 whats wrong with u?

[@eyistohernandez2996]

But Both are DLCs lol

[@xinocs9417]

Well, the result is espected, but the battle goes... strange? dont know, seems so no chronology, maybe the climax make much sense. Like, he cut the bullet and the persona, but take the damage of the bullet..? In all the cases This probably would be diferent this victory, seems like "we cant let the final be so easy to sora because, we have fanbase of persona seeing this". But the animation and the explanations going preety good, its just a constructive critic.

[@FintanMajora]

the bullet is onyl cut in half when it gets too close to sora, the laser pierces the bullet but it doesnt stop it. Sora desperately sliced it in half but was still caught up in the resulting explosion

[@aquilesmarques8186]

Let's mother fucking GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Sora (sukuna) slash joker (gojo)

[@alextalbain9269]

YEA! My boy takes the win!

[@YourNemesis361]

So just so everyone knows Sora wins end of story he’s not only multiversal but has better strength, attack potency, speed, durability, and has a bunch of counters to most of Jokers haxs so yeah Persona fans accept the facts joker gets stomped by sora

[@efejaymabs4200]

you my friend are right

[@MarioandSonicsupergamer]

Pretty cool episode. I also agree with the outcome, and I don’t buy Outerversal Joker, let alone complex Multiversal joker. Anyways I hope to fights like Archie Tails vs Sailor Mercury, Rin Tohsaka vs Hermione or Edward Elric, Sayaka Miki vs knight of despair or Eren Yeager, some other fights in the future.

[@MathalanAgne]

When you attack a persona it doesn’t effects it unless you attack the user. Plus, sataniel has the ability to reflect physical attacks. I’d say joker would win.

[@Daltonisntabot]

What if the attack isn't physical and affects your very being itself, your Heart? That's the ability of the Keyblade, to rip your Light from your Darkness, split it or flat out destroying your Heart which is like your very being so it's soul manipulation and conceptual erasure. Can that work?

[@jotarooraorasyourverse8446]

Great episode, funny already seeing Joker stans in the comments, Persona doesn't need to always win

[@flamellamarada4153]

Next time sora vs jesmon gx let's see if that little kid can with a true god.

[@Lilgame10]

Joker wins what 😭

[@KyngMK]

cope

[@STEVENGAMER64107]

Hell no

[@epicandpila]

Overall a pretty good fight

[@Need_RnR]

**Persona* vs. Neo Twewy. 😎 👍👍👍

[@angusparker2857]

13:13 Wait Organisation 15? I think you mean Organisation 13????!!!!

[@Themoo_atcows]

He was going insane I think

[@redshepherd32]

Honestly my most wanted MU is Urbosa(LoZ)vs Sheeva(Mortal Kombat)

[@RuneTacticss]

Yikes, I had a feeling this was gonna happen. Not gonna talk about Joker's immunities to physical and elemental attacks? Sorry guys, but you got this one wrong. Joker IS at least outerversal with immeasurable speed.

[@hellish958]

Agreed not just joker, literally any shadow and demon can be high outerversal tier in persona and smt. Kh verse is max to max complex multiversal if high balled.

[@RuneTacticss]

@@hellish958 That sounds about right. The amount of hax Joker has-and the resistances to said hax is also insane (Which they didn't even touch upon in the analyses). I don't think Sora could do much of anything to Joker tbh. Physical attacks wouldn't work, most magical attacks wouldn't work, he can move in stopped time so stopga wouldn't even work, in fact I don't think most of Sora's arsenal or spells would even work.

[@ogrimbothesour2976]

@@RuneTacticss Summon. Genie.

[@RuneTacticss]

@@ogrimbothesour2976 But Joker resists existence erasure which I think is the only thing of note that Genie could provide (Not that its ever used in the KH plot anyways-that would be too easy)

[@Xerumzv2]

Not that it matters since Joker scales way higher than sora and takes this no diff but the keyblade attacks on a conceptual level and soras able to fight in the realm of darkness which is stated to have no time so speed is pretty much equal

[@Mlplover-ow2sz]

This was a great episode, and funny that I already see Persona wankers in the comment section.

[@phuclonghuynhngoc1212]

i hope so you make more battle in this Year or funny video. please, Make Chainsaw Man Vs Gin( Chainsaw Man Vs Detective Conan), make Boba Fett Vs Mai Shiranui , make Xenomorph Vs Nightwing, make Predator Vs The Look See.

[@Young_mir]

The judge has got the decision right sora completely completely dominates joker sora is able to defeat xehanort who at the time had access to the keyblade/x-blade which gave xehanort full access to the power of Kingdom and the thing with the full power of Kingdom hearts is that what spawn the entire Kingdom hearts multiverse every world in Kingdom hearts quote on quote what are their own separate unique time space it's their own unique universe like Lilo and stitch each world is individual each world is around universal and they countless numbers of them just in the realm of light alone then there's the parallel realm of darkness then there's the parallel realm of nothingness sora beat that since he beat somebody who had the power of countless multiverses and he also has the x-blade surprised you didn't mention the power of waking

[@JoshDrakePendora]

The judge got the decision absolutely wrong as is agreed by the more knowledgeable scalers, both ones who specialize in KH and SMT/Persona, as well as generic scalers. Sora is at peak infinite 5D, Joker is outerversal. So one bound by dimensions vs someone who isn’t in power, that’s a slam dunk easy win for Joker all day, disagreement with that is simply ignorance.

[@gabrielrivera8059]

Kryptonian Despot Free For All (Justice Lords Superman VS Injustice Superman VS Ultraman VS Red Son Superman) Juggernaut VS Bane (Marvel VS DC) Lizard VS Killer Croc (Marvel VS DC) Shadow The Hedgehog VS Vergil (Sonic VS Devil May Cry) Deku VS Luffy (My Hero Academia VS One Piece) John Constantine VS Hellboy (DC VS Dark Horse) Star Lord VS Booster Gold (Marvel VS DC) Midnight VS Caustic (My Hero Academia VS Apex Legends) Goku VS Superman (Dragon Ball VS DC) Infinite VS Skull Kid (Sonic VS Zelda) Ghost Rider VS Spawn (Marvel VS Image Comics) Creepypasta VS MHA Villains Lie Ren VS Death The Kid (RWBY VS Soul Eater) White Blood Cell VS Robocop (Cells Of Work VS Robocop) Deadpool VS Abobo (Marvel VS Abobo Big Adventure) Krampus VS Grinch Mickey Mouse VS Bendy (Disney VS Bendy And The Ink Machine) Big Mom VS Big Daddy (One Piece VS Bioshock) Decidueye VS Green Arrow VS Flameslinger VS Merida (Pokemon VS DC VS Skylanders VS Disney) Reality Warpers VS Meme VS Horror Movies Silver VS Trunks VS Lucina VS Dr N Tropy (Sonic VS Dragon Ball VS Fire Emblem VS Crash Bandicoot) Himiko Toga VS Neopolitan (My Hero Academia VS RWBY) Goku VS Chuck Norris (Dragon Ball VS Chuck Norris) Tsuyu Asui VS Blair (My Hero Academia VS Soul Eater) Quackerjack VS Chucky (Darkwing Duck VS Child's Play) Nintendo VS Playstation Total War SCP 862 VS Doomsday (SCP Foundation VS DC) Greninja VS Rain (Pokemon VS Mortal Kombat) Tsuyu Asui VS Yoshi (My Hero Academia VS Mario) Deku VS Little Mac (My Hero Academia VS Punch Out)

[@renamon5658]

root for naughty bear for the next match

[@gabrielnader1099]

SORA Smash

[@dbzyesmlpnoabl9733]

Ren/Joker (Or Persona verse in general) has to be one of the most overestimated video game verses, Joker isn't that powerful as people think. Sure he does have some good abilities, but against Sora, this is one where I agree with Joker losing.

[@brandonx9566]

Scp 682 vs the one above all👀

[@angeljhpacheco]

Smash Ultimate Free for all Mario vs Sonic Pac-man vs Mega Man Link vs Samus Joker vs Sora Sans vs Ness Sonic vs Pikachu And more Like for them to do a Battle Royale

[@angeljhpacheco]

Mario vs Steve

[@striker07927]

The Persona dickriders be wilding out here, Joker can’t get past Sora’s resurrection and immortality going to Type 8, also Sora hax’s are on par with Joker’s

[@jackour8167]

Demons can regenerate from getting erased from existence and Joker kills them permanently. Sora's hax is NOT on par with Joker's + Joker massively outscales Sora.

[@striker07927]

⁠@@jackour8167 1. That’s not getting past Type 8 Immortality 2. Yes it is, Wish Hax, Cognition, Dura Neg, Soul Manip, Causality Manip etc, Sora keeps up in most categories especially in hax 3. Sora is the one outstating as not only is he infinite speed and both arguments for immeasurable are usually just resisting time stops or allowed to be there in the first place but also Sora scales to a character who managed to get to the edge of a realm that parallels in size to a realm of infinite size and he lit up the entire realm with just a few keyholes and light beams along with edging out the Multi Joker by being 5D, 3 Games in a row, yeah Sora wins and the diff is mid at highest

[@jackour8167]

​​​@@striker07927 1. It is because Joker negs these. 2. No, it's not. Observation is subjective reality. Joker has irrelevant speed due to moving in the expanse which transcends the concept of dimensions and is 1-A due to scaling to Yaldabaoth who can destroy the expanse.

[@striker07927]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@jackour8167 1. Try again, Joker not only doesn’t Neg it in the first place and it’s crazy to believe you think it’s on as many layers as it is with Sora 2. Stop trying to convince me of highballs, that has bunked for a long ass time, no hate to you Persona fans but ya’ll and grasping in Vs are pretty synonymous at this point when you buy this scaling bullshit when it’s been proven to be false and only Multi at best

[@jackour8167]

@@striker07927 1. Joker DID neg it. With almighty spells. Also, demons in SMT/Persona are archetypes, scaling them to 1-A. 2. No, it has not. No one debunked. There's literally not a single blog that has ACCURATELY debunked. All the arguments are arguments of belief, headcanon, ignoring blatant cosmology statements etc I bet a trillion dollars you didn't play a single SMT/Persona title.

[@spectraphantom5870]

Ben 10 Vs. Sailor Moon

[@angeljhpacheco]

It seems that Ren is losing again and again, first he lost in Super Smash Bros Ultimate vs Jump Force then in Super Smash Bros Ultimate vs Multiversus and now in Joker vs Sora the only Ren had won was in Joker vs Joker but only once there he already loses many times

[@gabrielrivera8059]

Ness VS Razputin (Earthbound VS Psychonauts) Junior Joseph And Cody VS Ed Edd N Eddy (SuperMarioLogan VS Cartoon Network) Hulk VS All Might (Marvel VS My Hero Academia) King Dedede VS King K Rool (Kirby VS Mario) Mineta VS Olimar (My Hero Academia VS Pikmin) Ganondorf VS Sephiroth (Zelda VS Final Fantasy) Red Harlow VS Colton White (Red Dead VS Gun) Black Widow VS Catwoman (Marvel VS DC) Movie Sonic VS Movie Mario (Sonic The Hedgehog VS The Super Mario Bros Movie) Goomba VS Bad Piggies (Mario VS Angry Birds) Togemon VS Cactus (Digimon VS Plants VS Zombies) Death VS Komachi Onozuka (Castlevania VS Touhou) Garou VS Battle Beast (One Punch Man VS Image Comics) Nintendo VS Sega Total War) Daphne VS Garnet (Scooby Doo VS Steven Universe) Greg VS Fred (Steven Universe VS Scooby-Doo) Street Fighter VS Mortal Kombat Total War) Shard The Metal Sonic VS Proto Man (Sonic VS Mega Man) Shadow The Hedgehog VS Lucario (Sonic VS Pokemon) Indie Gamea VS Mobile Games Total War Monsters Free For All Dream Users Free For All Goku VS Flash (Dragon Ball VS DC) Finn VS Leonardo (Adventure Time VS Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles)

[@1ario15]

Request video: Smbz Mario and Smbz Luigi vs Dbz broly and I hope Mario and Luigi win

[@goosethehonker340]

🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿 This is going to be a while from this comment section potential.

[@dellebelphine-moralez3510]

Sora fighting his son lol

[@luigifan7726]

I disagree Joker can make a persona that can’t be hit by physical,gun,fire,ice,electric, wind,nuke,physical,bless and curse attacks and the gun shot from his true persona can pierce through and kill a god

[@rentfree01]

Feats >>>>>>>>>> statements Show me actual feats that show his immunities, not parameters lmao.

[@jackour8167]

​@@rentfree01Devil Survivor shows that resistances are canon in the plot. Also, feats = Statements UNLESS statements are debunked by something in-verse in-verse

[@venomsasukedekurwbyfan4436]

The animation is good, but the outcome and post-analysis is very poor and disagreeable. Joker got downplayed and nerfed in this.

[@jackour8167]

Fr Joker would crush anyone on Kingdom Hearts

[@venomsasukedekurwbyfan4436]

@@jackour8167 Fax

[@brandongarzon5203]

The great reason is the most powerful entity in the shin megami tensei verse it created everything the biblical God lucifer the persona verse and the shin megami tensei verse and transcends existence and maruki persona was the closest to it an joker still beat him barely but he still beat him like bro

[@thedraftingax5963]

@@jackour8167 Yeah exactly

[@stampoulisrafail7836]

@@jackour8167 only people who never played KH can say this lmao

[@sonicbendykid7112]

Wow so many Persona wankers are mad at this lmao. Joker is powerful but he cannot win every single fight just accept some Tuxedo Mask knockoff can't always win.

[@Nexusdrex777]

Tho robot is grian sounding

[@Springfox099]

Congrats. Ya put me to sleep

[@Sora3469]

Good Job Sora😁😏😎👍🏻👏🏻🎉🎊

[@PIan3t]

Poorly researched, will not be watching again.

[@dbzyesmlpnoabl9733]

Look, Joker is tough with hax but he can't win every single fight he is in despite having a large arsenal.

[@jackour8167]

​@@dbzyesmlpnoabl9733Sora doesn't scale high at all lol multiversal trash

[@dbzyesmlpnoabl9733]

@@jackour8167 Sora being multiversal is enough for a Ren L

[@jackour8167]

@@dbzyesmlpnoabl9733 Joker is easily outer

[@dbzyesmlpnoabl9733]

@@jackour8167 🤣Only a Persona simp would agree with that. He is nowhere near Outer. Not even Universal (Yes I used to buy Universal Persona) he is based off hax, not stats since his hax is on a cognitive level.

[@rentfree01]

Joker is one of the most wanked protagonists in recent memory, along with Kratos and Dante. Only clowns think that Joker can beat Ben 10.

[@gonhunter3994]

Bullshit, Joker ANIHILATES Sora

[@rentfree01]

Show me feats that show that Joker is stronger lmao. Don't use any statement.

[@gonhunter3994]

​@@rentfree01 Persona is SMT's spin off, the MegaTen verse has outerversal characters like Yaldabaoth that the Phantom Thieves defeated. Here u go kid, that's why Joker stomps

[@mizzix]

​@@rentfree01statements are necessary to scale turn based rpg characters, since most of the time you won't see quick time events in those like sora cutting through those buildings in kh2

[@javarispeight1237]

@@gonhunter3994if it’s just lvl that’s not really enough since kh4 is hitting on the outerversal lvl. Also the fact from what I seen joker has no counter too sora rewriting events.

[@dbzyesmlpnoabl9733]

@@gonhunter3994 The only Persona games that are SMT spinoffs are 1-2 3-5 aren't

[@starcherfilms5560]

Sora win? Who cut joker? 🤔

[@JubbiMafu]

Apparently Joker is tied to the persona, so he got cut in half when his persona did lol

[@fabiocorrales5390]

Spra cut it in half so one hit the persona and the other on joker

[@FroggyWithYou]

54321 Mario vs SML Jeffy

[@FroggyWithYou]

You don't know about the Rocket MM54321 And the SML movie

[@cosmodawg2169]

*Spoiler* They never beat P5

[@neaosmt1562]

Shiki nanya sprite

[@user-rr9jx1yg5o]

Otis 4

[@imthecoolest3884]

This is so innacurate lore wise joker is a living platonic concept

[@swagboi2k335]

Please do Amanda the adventurer vs Dora The Explora!:)

[@vegetadoll7354]

Amanda is borderline featless and AR is biased with preschool show characters that's not Caillou so its very predictable that he will make Dora win

[@swagboi2k335]

@@vegetadoll7354 I respect your opinion but I don’t care if dora wins because AR is biased with young kids shoes! I think my idea sounds good and maybe rewind would make Dora 1 percent powerful like some videos he did with Vegeta and SMG4!

[@vegetadoll7354]

@@swagboi2k335 Amanda barely has feats and her analysis would likely be short, and as for Dora, she is your 4th wall breaking Mexican girl, so I am guessing the only way for them to fight each other is putting both of them out of character, and Amanda only goes corrupt and kills you if you say anything negative to her or say no to her questions like the kitten thing as one.

[@justintime2461]

Man. Going to be incredibly honest with this, I wasn't really all that interested, and even while watching it, I promise you that I didn't get a single laugh out of it. Not to mention, the outcome was incredibly obvious..... Considering that Sora has become the new Xenoverse Trunks in that he never loses a serious animation/fight. Not joking. The last 6 times I've seen him in a debate/fight, he's won every single time. Hopefully, an L debate/animation can be found somewhere because as much as I don't like Persona in the slightest, I dislike Kingdom Hearts even more, and I was hoping that this episode could actually give me a surprise. But nope. More Sora pandering. I wanted to like the episode, but I just can't get around the Sora pandering. Unfortunately, this episode was overall a fail for me. Not funny despite who would've won, too much pandering towards Kingdom Hearts, and Sora AGAIN, and yet another Sora W to add to his flawless record all just turn me away from this

[@jackour8167]

Joker would actually easily destroy Sora

[@justintime2461]

@@jackour8167 Oh I'm aware. Going into it, I said to myself "It all comes down to whether, or not they scale Joker to Outerverse Level, or not"

[@striker07927]

So you were gonna dislike the episode regardless if either contender won or not? Also if you didn’t like Sora in Vs cause of “pandering” you shouldn’t have watched it in the first place since talking about his hax and feats were required, you expected dissatisfaction and got disappointed because of your own fault, without even properly giving it a chance when the standards you gave it were impossible even worse when you say “he’s the new Xenoverse Trunks” which he’s not, he’s lost in battles before in animations and Xeno Trunks doesn’t even have any animations where he loses, so what are you lying?

[@justintime2461]

@@striker07927 Well, yes. If somebody does something nice to you only to turn out it's actually poisonous, would you still like their action? Also, I know there are character who can beat Sora, Joker being likely 1 of them. It's that every single time I've seen an animation, researched, or not, it always ends with Sora winning (Unless it's against another equally overhyped japanese RPG sword wielder main protagonist (Looking at you Shulk from the Smash Bros powerscaling video)) Also, read what I said. He's never lost a serious animation/fight. SERIOUS is the key word. There could definitely be some Sora L matchups there, but the problem is that they're either spite matches/animations, or extremely poor quality Death Battle had Sora beat Pit, One Minute Melee had Sora beat Link, and now Rewind Rumble had Sora beat Joker. Heck. If we're using non-serious matchups, that skews the chips further in my favor of the point, and to a wilder degree at that. Animation Rewind had Sora /Kingdom Hearts solo Nickelodeon, and there was another channel that had made a tournament with a bunch of random characters, and was specifically designed to make fun of overhyped characters by making stupid arguments as to why weak characters win against them. However, when SORA showed up in the tournament, he was somehow the sole exception, and STILL won it despite the channel literally being Sora's kryptonite. Heck. On a more general level, when Brandon Yates did an entire season that had many theoretical Kingdom Hearts matchups, and despite how many there were, only 1 had Kingodom Hearts lose..... And it was a SPITE MATCH AGAINST ARCHIE SONIC Now do you get what I mean when I say that the overhype for Sora is real?

[@jajarule7773]

@@jackour8167idk about that buddy

[@trollex8576]

Joker completely fucking shitstomps Sora, wtf is this

[@rentfree01]

Mad Persona wanker detected. What's next now, Joker beats 616 Thor? Fuck outta here.

[@jackour8167]

​@@rentfree01You haven't played a single Megaten game. And yes, Joker DESTROYS Thor.

[@sonicbendykid7112]

How does Joker win don't use SMT scaling argument.

[@jackour8167]

@@sonicbendykid7112 Adam Kadmon transcends the Tree of Life which is an archtypal and platonic realm. There, now go cope. Also, Persona gets SMT scaling whether you like it or not.

[@sonicbendykid7112]

@@jackour8167 I guess Sans gets Smash Scaling cause he appears as a Mii Gunner in SSBU. Sans beats Joker cause I kicked his ass as Sans

[@hellish958]

Even a lvl 2 pixie would solo the kh verse neg difficutly. Fun episode but absolutely disagree with the outcome. Persona cosmology is way complex and even the weakest character goes to high outeversal tiering.

[@Aigle662frileux]

Ofc the joker pfp say this .

[@22kingdomheartsfan]

@@Aigle662frileux That comment he made was like saying Caterpie equals Arecus in Pokemon

[@hellish958]

@@Aigle662frileux joker pfp would change the factual scaling? I am genuinely curious though It's like saying if i had Goku pfp and i claim goku can beat Naruto, luffy etc than i am capping.

[@mayborneflower]

It’s a bit hyperbolic with the whole “even the weakest” is outerversal thing but when one of the very bottom totems on the SMT pecking order is the Plasma demon (a literal ball of plasma waves given sentience, so anything that beats it is a casual light-speeder at absolute worst), you just know things get wild. To elaborate, each cognitive world visited by the Phantom Thieves contains its own universe. Though unlike the VS Battles wiki, I’m not gonna outright say that each Shadow Self with a Palace is a universal or multiversal entity, I can give a sense of scale from what their palace is and what it turns into from their cognition (aka, how palace owners subconsciously view their domains). Kamoshida took a preppy private high school and turned it into a medieval castle, Madarame took a dinky single story shack that doubles as his home and turned it into a giant art museum, Kaneshiro runs a nightclub that he views as a UFO bank that overlooks the whole Shibuya district (and he views the residents below as walking ATMs so he has influence all over the ground level, and there’s a decent chance this effect holds for the rest of Tokyo as a whole). Not impressive so far but then it gets crazy with Futaba, who’s palace turns her small bedroom into a giant pyramid and she turned the simple distance from her bedroom door to the rest of house into a vast desert that takes hours to navigate by car and there’s a sun keeping the heat over the whole place 24/7. After that is Okumura, who took his already massive corporate office building and made it into an even bigger space station just chilling in the vast cosmos, and it’s verging on gaining interstellar travel capabilities (as symbolism for his ambitions to make an impact in politics after doing nothing but corporate fast food for most of his adult life). Sae (prosecutors office becomes a skyscraper casino) and Shido (the whole world is flooded and the national diet building, aka Japanese Congress, is a luxury cruise that’s casually ignoring the calamity outside) are way less impressive than Futaba or Okumura as palaces but the former is wanked as canonically way stronger than all the other Palace bosses while the latter is way above the rest because he’s been fortifying his Palace and Shadow Self with the use of Cognitive Psience (the scientific study of Palaces, Shadows, and the Metaverse at large). And this is just the main game stuff putting Joker and the other Phantom Thieves at multiple solar systems at worst. I haven’t even touched on the shenanigans of Yaldabaoth, Maruki (who basically took Yaldabaoth’s powers and wields them way better), or the Velvet Room attendants/Rulers of Power (Joker and the Phantom Thieves beat Lavenza both halved and whole in P5, and Persona Q2 had him lead the fight against all four attendants from Personas 3 through 5 together backed the casts of all three games).

[@22kingdomheartsfan]

@@mayborneflower I disagree with the idea each palace is a universe, but I am glad you are not a mad wanker, saying the owners or shadows are universal or god forbid multi. Persona is strong and haxy, but not THAT strong.