Video Game Resellers EXPOSED!? RUINING Game Collecting?!

[@Callingcascade]

It's not just games. The vinyl record market has the same problem. An album will sell out and immediately go on eBay for hundreds of dollars.

[@nicholasroot3729]

The sneaker market as well

[@machoonunu968]

I just hope that vinyl records are immune to the death of physical media...

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

What happens when you have a bunch of consumers

[@JXL_ST20]

People have the perfect answer for this, but they don't do it and that is... stop buying from resellers that mark stuff up by ridiculous amounts. The moment it stops being profitable for them to abuse consumers like that, it's the moment that practice will die out.

[@ianholland2491]

Anything really that's collective is not safe from these scum bags

[@ColonialSun-mg6tq]

Over the last few years game collecting has gotten so out of hand and the part that is crazy is that rare games are not the ones being flipped at a fast rate anymore it’s popular games that sold millions of copies like Pokémon games

[@jeffrielly]

And this is why I emulate, it's not going to stop until people stop paying the insane prices.

[@poopy_fingers3324]

oh boo-hoo. go cry some more about it.

[@torch-bearer9129]

Pokémon is more popular then it has ever been, those games may have sold millions but now there are millions more who want them but didn’t buy them when they came out. The market has increased and the supply is not so of course prices will increase as the limited supply is fought for.

[@jeffrielly]

@@torch-bearer9129 if that's the case then why hasn't Nintendo rereleased them digitally?

[@torch-bearer9129]

⁠@@jeffrielly they did on the 3DS and they were very successful on the e-shop

[@YMY9]

What you dont realize is that even the casual sellers on fb market will base their prices on how much the resellers are listing them. Especially when those resellers have a platform and their listing are at the top results when searching for prices online. They dictate the market

[@RetroMoments]

To be honest, the insane prices nowadays have made me appreciate my collection even more! I dont really buy many new retro games anymore. Just doing trades and getting cheaper titles I'm actually interested in playing. I have no problems with emulation either, but I do enjoy playing on original hardware the most! So I will continue doing that!

[@AndyVandercoy]

Same. It's helped me slow down on my collection, thin out and really start digging into the games. Completed 5 games in the last few months and sampled many more I played in the past. It's been fun going to my library and checking out something on a Thursday night after the long work week. I fix retro consoles as a hobbiest learning more about electronics shout out to "Adrians Digital Basement" i test and play games on them and have a fun cube shelf all repaired "dead" systems and some childhood ones. Even still i do have a "Mister" fpga for my arcade and thay does get a lot of play time. Very convienent and now supporting N64. That gets my attention quite a bit but fridays and Saturday's im repairing things and playing on the hardware I fixed. I love it

[@fidelsolis6070]

So true wgat u said. I can relate. My thoughts and sentiments exactly. Now finally i can play and just sell the extras and also i can play 2 or 3 Emulation devicea. Because we have to save money snd Play games. That's the purpose to play the games.

[@codenamezz9993]

Same!

[@leeartlee915]

This is the most transparent brag I’ve read from this video. “I’m really enjoying my collection cuz I got in early”. That’s obnoxious

[@ryan89554]

cheap games are cheap because their common

[@containercore6832]

When I was a middle schooler in the 00s you could go to a flea market or a goodwill and pick up some SNES cartridges for a few bucks a pop, and you'd find some good stuff too! Not just sports games. It wasn't the console gen I grew up with but I got into it because it was a fun and cheap way to get to play some great games. But this hustle grindset mental illness has affected everything. It's been pretty bad for a while, and the only thing I collect anymore is books, but yeah there's something I find really crass and unpleasant about people like Phoenix Resale. Nothing but dollar signs in his eyes.

[@penguinjay]

a whole generation was brought up worshipping the dollar like God or something. It's all they know. We are at the point where these kids are about to be doing gay for pay stuff, then will say they are not gay, it's just a job. Rofl. Pretty funny/sad/terrible.

[@leeokami22]

Trust me, not everyone welcomed resellers with open arms. There's a difference between resellers and people like Phoenix taking advantage of the videogame community. Let's not even get in on the scam of his app. Heckin Steve explains it well, bad behavior of resellers need to be called out

[@UnitedWeStandFreedom]

Greedy scumbags are always ruining something.

[@Rocknroll-ig5iy]

Or maybe it’s just making a living sorry your not out hustling doing the same thing it is a full time job if you take it seriously

[@user-qy8tu2bk9m]

​@@Rocknroll-ig5iy Nah it's greedy scumbags

[@brianlikens2572]

Get a real job leve are hobby alone

[@HAMMERHEAD-g3h]

Not really. It's the buyers who are willing to pay. I don't collect any more. Stop doing that years ago. I was buying retro consoles before KZbin even existed. They didn't even call them retro then lol. It was just old stuff. Anyway, as long as people buy this junk, it'll continue happening and hey, if they want to spend their hard-earned money on a piece of plastic with a chip in it, be my guest.

[@ecoao80]

I started feeling fed up with the whole reseller culture when I saw a guy on KZbin who purposely brought a disabled neighbor with him to flea markets to haggle and get more sympathy points. When he found awesome deals he would negotiate the sellers to lower their prices even further just so he could boast about the additional savings. It was gross

[@FoxontheRun98]

What?! That’s incredibly scummy wtf

[@megamob5834]

I know who you’re talking about. That dude really rubs me the wrong way

[@michaelmoores2654]

@@megamob5834 Who is he?

[@coletonthatcher6134]

Who is it?

[@HELLHOUND-WIZARD-qg8xf]

Who?

[@LoneWolf1985BK]

Alan wake remastered selling for $80 new on eBay when stores were selling it out at $20-25 is insane.

[@Slumberpartytime]

When I see some games I'd like to get on FB marketplace and the seller all of the sudden sends me a message telling me the deal is off because some jerk either a) Offered him more money for that one game b) Offered to buy the seller's complete lot that's when you know resellers are a problem.

[@CSRamone]

Every collecting market goes through this. Right now, people with little to no interest in the genre of video games, are purchasing and selling. Eventually, this will slow down or even stop. I hope that there aren’t too many people falling victim to some of these inflated prices. However, “buyer beware” should never be forgotten. I have been collecting for over 20 years. It’s the thrill of the hunt for me. Whether it’s antique shops, flea markets, 2nd and Charles, half price books, or even the occasional brick and mortar game store, there are deals to be found. There is still fun to be had in this hobby. There always will be.

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

It only stops once the consumers stop

[@HappyTubbe]

I agree

[@LeadMe2TheBliss]

So in other words...you're a video game re-seller.

[@davida12345]

Sorry but you're ill informed, and aren't in the loop. What you think is going to happen is what normal people who have no idea what they're talking about think. It's definitely not going to stop ever with Nintendo, Pokemon, the lost goes on. Always nice talking to you NPCs though

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

@@davida12345 nice English 👌

[@Tenchi10]

To me, the resellers aren't an issue, until they are... "I got into the vendor's hall a few hours early! Let's go hunting!" Gee.... Yeah, taking advantage much? Then of course they only get deals they do because they're famous. Due to this, I'm now a casual collector. If I pay anything, it'll be no more than $50 or $60 now, unless I can get a similar deal.

[@johnpajestka5022]

The whole retro scene got ridiculous years ago. I sold all my old stuff a few years back Made my tidy lil' sum and never looked back. Bought a new hi-fi setup in my living room with the profits that I use every day. Best of luck to anyone who wants to get into that hobby now.

[@Ichabod_Jericho]

You can always emulate whatever you wanna play🤘 other than DS games😂

[@martinrc80]

@@Ichabod_Jericho Ackchyually…

[@Ichabod_Jericho]

@@martinrc80 🤓🥸🤓🥸🤓🥸🤓🥸

[@HECTORMONTALVO-le9cn]

I'm 54 years old. And in 2005 I sold my whole videogames collection, including 100s of magazines, to pump the money into my x-ray tech career. And I thought I'll get it later. I saw how the games began skyrocketing when you tubers like AVGN began covering them that's I was part of the problem. Flashforward to now...in 2016 I lost my x-ray career!😭 Now 2024 it's costing me $1,000s to get only a part of my collection back not even counting the magazines! Back in the day I sold games for $1, systems for $20 all MIB, magazines for $.25 cents. I only made like $1,200 back in 2005 because NOBODY wanted this old tech. Nowadays resellers and scalpers have taken over the hobby and they expect to sell for $40 a loose NES game with magic marker writing! I wouldn't mind paying good money for a MIB game or unopened but then these parasites want $120 for them in that conditon!😡 A local retro store wants $150 for an unopened Robotron 64 but I found a loose copy for $10 it's ridiculous! There wasn't that many retro stores back then because it was honest business. Now it's just scalpers that don't even have a store with employees they do everything on-line it makes me wanna throw up.🤮 I just wish everything goes back to normal before I complete my retro collection.🤔

[@juelesvarado]

I agree. I collect since 1996 when i bought my NES with my own money. I boght it because i was poor. Old consoles were cheap. Just in 2009 -2011 i find nes and snes games for like a dollar or less... now those are like 10 dlls the ones that where awful cheap games... i buy today from japan boxed games because its cheaper.. or buy multicartidge games.. just to play...

[@HECTORMONTALVO-le9cn]

@juelesvarado yeah that's true. I would like to buy multi-carts but I'm afraid they'll fry my system like it has happened to some people.🤔

[@jumprangle768]

They don’t expect to…they so

[@willissudweeks1050]

120 isn’t even very much money

[@teneleven2818]

Interesting story, makes me curious about the x ray career situation too. You know something funny, there was a mad tv skit about old tech in the very distant future and they showed an original Xbox and the character said it was worthless. I don’t think that skit aged too well considering how things are playing out now

[@Bukkake2023]

Yes they have been for well over a decade now

[@z0m813]

I don't understand why this is even still a discussion lol KZbin ruined the whole collecting scene. Resellers for everything get on KZbin hype it up and the price skyrockets simple cause and effect.

[@wreckitralph4714]

Right 😂 this is a video made a decade late.

[@ShadowArtist]

RGT the answer to your headline is not a simple "yes" or no". the answer is complicated. Are *item scalping* resellers being unethical and shady ruining retro game collecting? yes. Are ETHICAL and fair resellers ruining retro game collecting? NO. It's the reslleres that * have a warehouse or storage unit FILLED with old consoles and games* (and have EBAY listings for common consoles and fairly common games and charging massively inflated prices on them) those kinds of shady, deceptive resellers in the US and in Japan are ruining retro game collecting. Like a loose working NES is maybe worth $10 for example, but some "resellers" buy 20~30 NES consoles and are charging $55~$100 each on their Ebay shop or at Conventions or in their brick n mortar shops, it's the SHADY and greedy type of resellers that massively upcharge on games and console far beyond what they *should* be worth that are ruining retro game collecting. Sonic the hedgehog 1 or Super Mario Bros. are maybe worth $10, but many think it's ok to sell those games loose for $25~$35 to take advantage of the casual retro game collector/enthusiast. These are the "DK Oldies" type of resellers, Retro game Resell SCALPERS. The small time, ethical resellers are NOT contributing to the inflation of prices to retro games. Azzholes like the owner of DK Oldies, the Game Grading gifters, the unethical... they are the one's ruining things. Not the small-time resellers that are being ethical and fair...

[@darrentg6]

I haven't sold my collection, but the reseller shenanigans/sky high retro prices + emulation handhelds have all completely decimated my desire to acquire any more retro games.

[@lonewolfgamingscwls]

I'm a gamer, not a collector. I'm always in the process of getting new games, and getting rid of old ones. I do buy retro games, but only to play. If I'm not playing them, it's only a matter of time until I get rid of them. I've never seen the point in having shelves of games just sitting there unused.

[@Jameswilliam1982]

Theres a difference between reselling, and Scalping.

[@LuisPerez-5]

Not really

[@Jameswilliam1982]

@@LuisPerez-5Yes Really

[@GeteMachine]

They're becoming synonymous now.

[@Ares_0926]

It's gotten out of hand in that a few huge players are controlling and manipulating price of the entire retro game market. These items all have a fixed supply that they keep scooping up more of and can then artificially push up the price of these old games.

[@BoxingDayAC]

Your reseller defense has plot holes and bias from selling to one but I like your reference to EarthBound. It sat on unsold on store shelves FOR YEARS and the slightly over 100k sales figure was shortly after release. It's a common game. For sure 200k or 300k. Was $35 loose 20 years ago before the hype train arrived.

[@chada4636]

Hey, do what makes you happy. With that being said Phoenix Resale is total scum.

[@smokeymountain6519]

To the people who say "support your local game store" I say "why?". They went to all flee markets, thrift stores, garage sales and made cheap games become expensive games. I say play ROMs until the market crashes.

[@Nukizuka]

Because i only have one game store and id like it to stay. Thx for trying to ruin my local gaming economy.

[@justseth9071]

well maybe because you could game store that has good price and a huge selection of games goes out of business. That happened in my area twice and only have two retro video game stores left with them being very overpriced. one being a huge chain in the northeast America and the other where the guy goes by the highest price on ebay and marks it at that much. Like super mario world average is not $50.

[@YoDz-117]

@@Nukizukalocal gaming store ruined it for themself by charging $150 for a used copy of MGS Twin Snakes

[@ivanvargas2425]

Playing roms isn’t collecting

[@JTSuter]

This isn’t quite accurate. Retro game stores usually get their stock from customer trade ins or purchases.

[@Tharealkeeters]

I’ve never bought any of these retro consoles from resellers as the prices were ridiculous and I found it quickly that emulation was the way to go.

[@indy5280]

Or flash cards if you still want to play on the actual hardware

[@ModernVintageGamer]

yes. Alien Resurrection on the PS1 is all the proof you need. goodnight

[@eculhane]

My biggest concern is simply pricing getting out of hand. I want games to be as accessible as possible. Emulation is great, but its not always the answer.

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

Emulation is literally the only answer.

[@ABD-pc3jf]

It's technically illegal unless you actually own the game physically.

[@aaronroberts8601]

It's the only answer.

[@aporue5893]

@@aaronroberts8601 until it crashes *rolls eyes*

[@RyanVentura604]

Very short answer, yes. I remember going to the Salvation Army in 2002, you can get an NES, two controllers, the zapper, Mario Bros / Duck Hunt, and ten other games for $50 lol. I saw a Sega Saturn with Virtua Cop and gun for $30. If I had the money at the time, I would have bought it all.

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

Because of all the losers and scumbags, you could resell that Saturn for 500$ today. It's sick.

[@PyrosPelagics]

the sneakerheads ruined everything, period. started with the sneakers, now they moved onto video games.. these people dont care about video games they just wanna profit and fleece the nostalgia gamers for all their money.. theres youtubers im not going to name that are blatantly doing it, and they got plenty of money and youtube money to go out and buy at outrageous prices then turn around and sell at even more outrageous prices by way of overhyping something thats been so common for ever. I wanna call these people out so bad, theyre a disgrace to the scene. Toy flippers are even worse, but i can kinda understand because a lot of times vintage toys are always missing parts or are rare.. but video games are obviously being resold abused. edit: you also have to understand these reseller youtubers are probably paying for positive comments in their videos, therefore people think this whole reseller scene is accepting, when in reality everyones complaining about prices and pushing back. I still stand by my method i started back when ebay first started... buying and owning the consoles because eventually they'll all have flash carts or modchips to play backups..

[@undeadwolf4010]

I feel like people were more upset because of who you sold your collection too, that dude is complete scum. He had his viewers help him send GameCube games to help him complete his collection because it was his childhood dream, a few months later once he completed his collection he sells it all.

[@dylives7667]

The Pandemic made it worse. But, far worse, the scheme Limited Run Games has been going on for a while.

[@MILFMAN-yg3jg]

What has limited runs been doing cause I have heard of them but I'm not familiar with what they do

[@ConsoleKev]

As someone who worked in a game store. Yes. There's a lot of people who buy games for no purpose other than to have them on a shelf.

[@matthaskell1988]

People buy art to hang it on the wall too. Folks like to look at $h1t.

[@cf3661]

I have over 300 physical switch games. Most unopened 😉🤣

[@matthaskell1988]

@@cf3661 👌📀

[@ConsoleKev]

Art's purpose is to be looked at. Video games are meant to be played

[@matthaskell1988]

@@ConsoleKev Yea well people with wieners and meant to be boys and people with who who’s are meant to be girls… And look how that’s going. Life is complicated.

[@TunzoFun]

Phoenix Resale is trash 🗑️

[@joeyboy1980s]

Dudes annoyed coz he sold his collection So you didn't do it for money. Hypocrite.

[@JLSGamingUSA]

Lots of hypocrisy in this video. You crap on games rotting away on a shelf as you have games rotting away on a shelf behind you. You crap on resellers and bad resellers specifically and justify your sale of your collection to one of the most awful resellers which is contributing to the very culture your calling out in the video. I get where you were trying to go with this video but you didn't stick the landing.

[@BuddyStromboliDrums]

Who did he sell his collection to?

[@omegashenron8]

@@BuddyStromboliDrums I think he's talking about phenix resale or whatever his name is.

[@LVPB]

💯 hypocrite

[@joshnewman6667]

@@omegashenron8yeah they have a video about it

[@Alex_Manning]

I started getting gba games. The price is one thing, and it does make retro game buying annoying. The bit I can't stomach is the amount of fakes on ebay. I think I'm just going to play roms.

[@Shadow-Joop-157]

All game resellers that have invested money in Paper Mario the thousand-year door. going to lose a lot of money this year. I still can't believe we're going to get a remake

[@FenrirFire18]

Good

[@michaelvasquez6342]

I think the main problem is hype and fomo. During the pandemic people were looking into these games and of course with the stimulus money went and bought like crazy. Which inflated the market for everything. With that being said, the values of all these games and consoles are staying up in price because sellers see the new market value set by the buyers from the pandemic. Then videos that have "top 10 games for (insert console here)" i personally think triggers fomo for certain people and then they proceed to buy at a high price which keeps the market high. I dont think resellers are necessarily at fault here, to me its the people that fell into it without doing their research and due diligence. The need for instant gratification is also to blame but thats another story.

[@Retrojam891]

The hype is definitely a large factor. There are billions of dollars in video games these days. We have movies, esports, esports gambling, new/retro games. Those stimulus packages hurt the country as a whole pretty much any collectible shot up(tcg, games, coins, sneakers) along with vehicles, real estate. Prices are gradually coming down to what will be a new baseline. People who can not imagine spending hundreds or thousands on games needed to find an entity to blame so they locked on to Grading companies, auction houses, and resellers. Sure everyone has a role but people fail to look at how large the hobby has grown. Looks at the content creators on KZbin, tiktok, instagram. The sheer number of conventions, swap meets, tournaments. So many people want to have these impressive, flashy, expensive collections but either don’t want to put in the work.

[@azsoho6532]

I don't really blame resellers... this was all inevitable with games / consoles getting older and becoming more rare. Value was always bound to increase and there are always people who are gonna take advantage of the market & inflate it if they can. It doesn't just happen with video games, it's everything vintage, vintage records, vintage clothes, collectibles etc.

[@Bootymeatson]

Finally someone who is not a complete idiot. Agreed my man.

[@imairwrecked3599]

I got into collecting late so the sticker prices are not a total shock because it’s more or less what I’m use too. However some stores are definitely out of hand. Others don’t even put the good games they have on the shelf and sell those to Amazon ect. It is a rip off honestly; however one that many including myself will pay for even subconsciously and consciously knowing we are paying to much for old games.

[@afjkidd5]

They absolutely are. Trying to get back into Saturn collecting has been incredibly difficult because of the insane pricing.

[@stupidbluebird]

i don't know why i waited so long to get into it but yeah the saturn market is crazy

[@jeffrielly]

Get a saitiator, it's not going to stop untill people stop paying the insane prices.

[@stupidbluebird]

@@jeffrielly my saturn can play backups but there's just something to having those long boxes, being able to pull out and read the manual, there's a feel to it that i adore.

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

Also download and print the manuals. Buy some reproduction cases. It'll be significantly cheaper than trying to buy games that are going to rot within the next 20 years

[@GuiOmania]

Even japanese saturn game have become crazy expensive !!!

[@everyhandleistaken2007]

That's what I did; went from having a $30k collection to selling it all and just having the consoles with everdrives. From there I got a steam deck and put everything up through ps2 on sd cards and it gives me the ability to game on the go now. For everything above that, or stuff that just doesn't emulate well, I just have modded consoles. Play more games now than I ever have. I do miss my awesome collection sometimes though.

[@spidercolt]

Same. I sold a large chunk of my collection and was able to mod my consoles for ODEs and buy a few everdrives. I also bought a mini PC and filled it full of stuff. So I have a CRT setup and a huge emulation setup for my flat screen. I miss a few of those games but I like my setup now.

[@DieHardjagged]

Same, i once had a Boxed Nintendo 64 Collection of my most favorite games but when i heard the Everdrive would be out at some Time, i sold EVERYTHING and in the end i would still have every game to play and not having to shell out massive amounts of money to get what i want.

[@Dean-SLC]

Yes because even Nintendo switch games are getting over priced. I see bendy and the ink machine on Argos, for £20 pounds and was out of stock. Then I go on f'n eBay and it's selling between 50 and 70 opened, and it isn't even rare. It's nuts. I know your vid was about retro stuff more. But I'm seeing it all over the place right now with Nintendo switch stuff!

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

Because morons keep paying. Don't be a consumer

[@meccanised]

I tihnk the push toward digital collections has put into sharp focus the fact that one all physical media will be obsolete. So I doubt the sale and resale of video games will ever really die off, these are cultural artifacts at the end of the day, like it or not.

[@aaronroberts8601]

That's why I emulate everything now. I sold my collection last year and don't miss it at all.

[@jake78441]

cheaper to

[@Evac213]

Yes you do don’t lie

[@paulkendrick4153]

You will regret it Deep down. Throwing away history for a quick buck is cheap and tells a lot about your character to be honest

[@Ashevergreen]

@@paulkendrick4153 lol get off your high horse. These are toys! Emulating these is aperfectly valid way to experience these pieces of history

[@Juniorgong11]

The problem is when people realize there is a market they manipulate said market. Like I have a game I want the value to go up in said game. Sell it to myself to a high value a few times. Then boom that’s the new value of said game because it sold for that amount previously.

[@AaronKosharsky]

Ive been saying for years the consumers have accountability as well. you dee and others have pointed out what we do. I dont hide it I've scalped before its part of the reselling game. End of the day everyone just out trying to make a living. Customers if they don't wanna pay the full price like you said should just emulate everything they want to play thats expensive. if all consumers stopped paying up the prices would drop. Love your videos as always maybe one day ill join the hulk hogan collectors club too lol he lives by me up in Clearwater. Sometimes if you go to his shop at the beach you'll see him or his son there.

[@JohnMomma-xi5gi]

Man shut up. Get a REAL job.

[@robert5235]

This guy saying he not a video game collector as he sits in front of thousands of games on a shelf.

[@JCpNK]

Same with Bourbon… It got so bad here in Virginia that they had to change the rules because the scalpers (most of whom don’t even drink bourbon) where getting all the good stuff before it was even put on the shelf

[@DaisakoKunandra]

I don't really like the people who do the resale that are cutthroat on it but that is on a personal level. It's more of an annoyance to collectors than anything else. I mainly see things that contribute to raising prices takes advantage of younger generations who don't know about emulation.

[@FloridaManRacer]

I don't get why people think Video Games are immune or should be held to a different standard than Baseball cards, vintage toys or any other collectible/antique. The price shoots up as the rarity increases and a business marketplace is built around it... The marketplace will fluctuate in and out of the buyer's favor and conversely in and out of the seller's favor as well. Just because it's the thing YOU like and you don't have enough money to have all of it doesn't mean the world should change just for you. It's whining. That's all it is. If you want the games so badly, you're gonna have to work, and pay good money for them. Welcome to reality. And now you know why I choose to emulate and not have a physical copy of every game I love. Because unlike the baseball cards, or vintage toys, we have an alternate way to enjoy the product itself. You knock the resellers, but they're the ones putting in the footwork going to garage sales, swap meets and people like RGT who offload a collection so you can make two clicks on ebay and have it shipped to your house and THEIR *TIME* IS GOING TO COST *YOU* *MONEY* If you want to truly own these games just to have them on a shelf collecting dust like you own a museum (and maybe play Ducktales every 6 years) then by all means, do what you enjoy. Just understand you aren't the only one and nothing in life that is worth having TO YOU, will EVER come easy. That's the world, that's reality. GET OVER IT.

[@PutlerHuyIo]

or even financial stocks for that matter. If the company is doing well, you won't get any stocks on the cheap, you'll have to pay premium, since everyone wants in on the action. It's a basic human nature, supply and demand.

[@connorrussell2084]

I definitely agree with your take. I wish it didn't have to be like this, but I also wish other hobbies weren't so expensive either. But I think video game collectors and whoever else are upset because this is the first time it has happened in the video game collecting space.

[@grayghost1303]

Couldn't have said fhis better myself. It is just whining. Same goes on with arcade collectors.

[@Time_Capsule_Museum]

Exactly

[@dingykix]

but the prices of baseball card and comics are artificially inflated too, it's just greedy bastards ruining a hobby, in real time i just saw xeno saga 3 double in price in the span of a few months, that has nothing to do with the markets just jackasses taking advantage of desperate ignorant consumers

[@LxcasOnYT]

im currently trying to build my ds, 3ds and switch collection. so many games that I was looking at are $50-100+ which is crazy. also collecting low dollar ps3 and wii games.

[@HappyTubbe]

Same

[@retrohavoc4700]

Stop buying this stuff from them. Half of these collectors don’t even play them. There are lots of ways to play these games without spending ridiculous money. Retro games are cool but don’t sleep on modern stuff.

[@HisShadowX]

So…. I have been using ZSNES for emulation since 1995 😐I can use it for controllers and keep in mind I don’t think ZSNES has been updated in twenty years

[@DynamoVideoGames]

I run a pretty decent size retro store in SWFL. You'd be shocked at how many high-end collectors feast on store inventory when it comes to larger cost items. They want them in hand, they want them with a warranty (not the fear the eBay seller will push back), and they want to haggle with you. They want the Earthbound you have listed for 350 for 320. And that's a part of the fun. As for the resellers, I think the small thing you missed was that during the pandemic these resellers like Caleb taught an entire audience how to earn extra income via a way they didn't initially know about. His videos started me on eBay, and then flea markets, and now a very successful store. That's likely why people were never up in arms about them. Good video.

[@HatedJared]

I dont have a problem with resellers. Anyone who collects anything knows there are rare things in the hobby that are expensive and cheap things that are common. Videogames are a toy so the market is going to do what it wants to do. I'd be more worried about who is driving up things you actually need to live like food. Plus this is one of the few hobbies where you can bypass the collecting and emulate everything if you wanted. Cant do that with coins, cards etc.

[@trah666]

The beanie baby comparison is an apt one. It isnt desirable games driving this market, its market manipulation. Its video game resellers hording games to artificially create scarcity to increase the value of what they hold. This is always the problem with collectibles as speculative assets

[@AndDeathForAll82]

This is what happens when investors get involved instead of people who actually love retro gaming. My collection was finished in 2014, but I’ve always stuck true to my #1 rule: if I don’t want to play it, I don’t buy it. Everything in my library has been played, and they will all be completed.

[@anthonyc4537]

i agree and disagree with a fair amount, cause what is a "reseller" can change depending on what each person says , cause you can sell a game of yours you happen to buy for cheaper then worth to get a more desired game and in the terms you gave then you are a reseller, also i think resellers are more good then bad, they give a value to a game more then if there was non here, and i do think having your games have a bigger value then $1 is part of why people love collecting. people without thinking about it want goals to achieve, you want to work towards collecting that desirable high $ game and getting them one day, if no resellers games wont have a real high value now you can really just collect every game u want for a $1 and there is no goal or real accomplishment and u have a ton of games in 1 day, i personally have seen and know adding value $ wise to items makes them more desirable, more wanted. and thats part of the fun in collecting, trying to get that hard to get desirable piece.

[@anthonyc4537]

also i dont think someone who flips a game for its worth to collect an item they want instead is really a true reseller, id say a reseller is really just someone who strictly does not collect anything in that area, and only buys to sell, and even that i see no issue with cause 1.) you want your collection to have value for the one day u may offload it for a new hobby, and 2.) if someone agrees to sell to them lower and they simply just list for its true value and make money thats ok, i think alot of people try to gate hold alot of hobbies nowadays cause they were "in it first" and they want all those super cheap prices and all that, but i think more people the more fun it is to connect and meet people in that hobby, if its a dead hobby and no one collect something, then ya cool you can get everything for under a $1 but then noone's there to share with or meet to do so lol.

[@spongebob_deathstar]

I've given up collecting games since covid. Even trying to buy new limited editions of games I like is a nightmare. Wish I could get up to speed with emulation, but don't know where to start. Great video!

[@Quato369]

Sooner or later all bubbles burst.

[@AgentMorgan2010]

Scalpers definitely ruined it. I bought my copy of Snatcher for $100 off eBay in 2006. Can't tell you the last time I've actually played that game on original hardware, but will likely never sell it. That one's a bit too significant and near & dear to me. Unfortunately, I still have this gene in me that wants the physical copies. Given the asinine prices now, though... and as 5th & 6th gens become easier and simpler to emulate, I'll likely be going that route myself. But when I truly enjoy a game, I still want the physical copy. But with modern games especially, physical copies are practically pointless, so it won't be an issue soon enough, going forward.

[@darkspartan566]

Lol yea especially when the stimulus checks came around and everyone was hoarding GPU's for Bitcoin 😅

[@sandman8920]

Absolutely! I find it hilarious when I go on eBay and something is listed as rare but there’s literally a hundred to choose from and all at extortionate prices of course!

[@leeartlee915]

I have many issues with resellers… but the main one that bothers me is the “big ones” listing on Amazon. That’s the part I cannot forgive.

[@itzmikeomg2755]

Resellers definitely killed the mini console markets.

[@Wizard66]

These days if you just want to play retro on original hardware and not worry about the collectors aspect, invest in multi-carts or everdrives.

[@th00perman_]

Resellers: "I'm only interested if I'm making money off it."

[@DarkPitTheFallenAngel]

Its not just video games. Its movies, music, everything.

[@maloforlife]

I agree with you. The only ones really buy are casual gamers. But it does ruin the fun though of shopping at flea market. Swap meets and garage sales because everybody is selling them for too much money. Part of the thrill for me was just to buy a game for cheap, not with no thought of reselling it.

[@adamparker1504]

I feel people have wised up for Retro. When I first started hunting for nes , snes , genesis stuff. I found them all in garage sales , flea markets , thrift stores for almost nothing. People wanted to get rid. I will say 2014 ish , suddenly people are selling them at ebay prices. Looking at their phones seeing how much it's worth. Articles in 2015 , saying you're old game maybe be worth Thousands. Kinda ruined the hobby , also alot of people jumped on it around the same year. Moving to something more modern , people buying limited run games , they aren't doing for collecting purposes , they just know limited supply , medium to high demand. They are scum but it's not illegal. Just wait for Nintendo Switch 2 launch, It's going to be scalped like crazy.

[@damon7845]

Honestly i think its the perfect storm of youtube and ebay that made all nostalgia things go to rediculous prices

[@bonefactory1393]

Resellers and "special editions" almost killed comic books in the 90s

[@dan_evilrobot]

I hate to say it.. I do agree with you, about resellers especially on retro games and KZbin in general. About 20 years ago or more, that old video games used to be dirt cheap at flea markets, thrift stores, pawn shops and of course there's eBay back then but at the time they didn't really care how much those games go for or how much they've been sold if you have internet.

[@willlawson6126]

I collect video games, Modern and retro BMX bikes and many other things. In all hobbies, you have people that are a form of scalper. Buying up all of the new low numbered items just to control the secondary market for their personal financial gain. At the end of the day, you cannot put energy into those things from those people that you cannot control...... Just simply get the things that you can at reasonable prices and enjoy them for what they are.

[@GamersBay]

I've been a game dealer off and on for about a decade. In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with game collecting, but I don't see the logic in people just buying games to throw them on a shelf and never actually play them again. I did build up a collection of original XBOX games over the years, but its for the simple fact I play the games frequently, and I'm not just buying them to stare at a game case on the wall. People really should consider just buying the games you really enjoy, rather than just buying to collect, and you dont have the break the bank to do it. There is some greed from game dealers too. Some will jack up prices to extreme levels anytime they think they can get away with it. Being a game dealer is not an easy job either. It takes an enormous amount of time and energy to list, sell, as well as manage inventory and bookkeeping. Then you have people constantly trying to rip you off, while having to deal with draconian policies from platform's like ebay.

[@Kazzman90]

I mean it’s gotten crazy in all hobbies, music, cards, & collectibles. It’s why I got what I want and sold the rest for a lot of hobbies and play them via other avenues.

[@matthewcoreyhall]

I love collecting for the Neo Geo. Still some of the most beautiful pixel art, huge cartridges, great artwork and very low volumes produced. It's both easy (small library) and hard to collect for (rarity+price). It's just as fun to play these games as they are to collect them. The market has gone insane for rarest games but... and I'm curious how long it will take for prices to drop. SNK is doing a nice job keeping the spirit alive but will have to see how things go in the future.

[@MysticGargoyle]

It's not fun to collect for Neo Geo, if you refer to the AES it got insane prices like 20K for Metal Slug or even worse examples. Those games that are cheap are some of the less desired titles like the KOF series Samurai Spirits 1 and 2 etc, they are just fillers. The real good stuff like Blazing Stars, Garou Mark Of The Wolves are sold to such saturated prices, you can get a good Rolex watch for that price. I still have my AES that i bought in the 90s with 23 games, but it's impossible to collect for it these days.

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

They're never going to be cheap. Buy console ports or just be a pirate

[@MysticGargoyle]

@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 I don't expect them to be cheap, they are just not worth the price anymore!

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

@@MysticGargoyle they were never worth the hundreds of dollars per cartridge

[@MysticGargoyle]

@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 Who said hundreds of dollars, most of them cost more than a months salary 🤣

[@Cruzjandro]

As someone from Kentucky, our gamestores were so good before Phionex popped up. I remember I was able to buy so many games that were hard to find but now its impossible. I live in Mexico now and am the problem that he was in Kentucky so I get it. I don't resale but it definitely has ruined game collecting.

[@Teja]

Isn’t the guy who is in the thumbnail the one you sold the games to?

[@MichaelJenkinsVSaRegularCAR]

This is the best video you've made in a long time. I agree 1000% This needs to be a series, none of these resellers actually play games.

[@lainsoundtrack8309]

the real problem is people will rather sit on a game untill it rots rather than sell it for a fair price. Most scalpers have another job so they are not reliant on the money

[@dschultz9466]

And this is why I went the emulation route, with ROM packs sold on AliExpress being a thing, it's amazing.

[@ibapreppie]

The resellers I hate are the ones that tell the sellers that they are collectors

[@Acrophobia1981]

Retro Gaming Tube 85 - "I'm not a retro game channel" 😂

[@snupe8186]

As for video games I think the pandemic is what started it since no one had anything to do. It drove up demand when none was really looking for it But now days anything retro from 80-90s has a high price tag on it.

[@FallingStar1080]

You lack self awareness mr. Retro Gaming Tube 85 😊

[@cherokeefit4248]

I see some of the problem of high prices due to resellers. I know people have to make a buck but I come from an era in time where if you see a price you don’t like, walk. nobody likes a haggler;especially one that constantly begs. I doubt any reseller would give a deal like the one’s they try to get at 50%off.

[@LeadMe2TheBliss]

You're right. They only want to pay 40 percent of the market value, if that, they would never sell anything to someone for the prices that they pay because they are too damn greedy and cheap.

[@MandaPepez]

That's why I emulate everything now. I sold my collection last year and don't miss it at all.

[@joeyfarris2543]

You're a mustachioed plumber Nintendo KZbinr RGT 85 😂😂😂 Mama Mia 😱😱😱

[@fentazen2677]

It’s not dead to me, but I probably only spend a couple thousand per year on retro games now, where I used to spend a lot more when I felt like it was a good value. It’s now more like something where I’ll treat myself to a few games now and then.

[@osareme2462]

KZbinrs are killing it with those buy before it is rare videos or this is a low print game to only 3000 copies the stupid thing is Xenoblade has so many copies out there and everyone that wants one has one yet everyone keep driving that demand of that game up for no reason

[@jaketheps2punk]

Thank you for showing the love to JHMDF, I think it was back then. Scottsquatch is why I started collecting almost 12 years ago. Been loving this hobby ever since!!! Great video RGT❤

[@urogoth]

For me, they did. I haven't bought any retro games since covid pricing. I don't even look or try anymore

[@connorrussell2084]

is video game reselling making it harder to collect games because it is being outpriced? Yes, yes it is... But as long as we live in a capitalist hellhole like the US, there is always going to be an incentive for people to be the ones to meet the demand for people are willing to pay top-dollar

[@Mcchubz]

A hot game , a true reseller will sale the cart, the box, the manual separately.

[@PhoenixResale]

Haha still surreal to be scrolling KZbin and see my devil self in a thumbnail I didn’t make 😂

[@mrgelectrickz8433]

Bit late arent ya

[@KenzieTrinityDeasy]

Video game and Sneaker resellers market are awful. It’s crazy how much people want and willing to pay. I want to start collecting for the Sega Saturn. My wallet: Good Luck

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

Why collect video games at all? Are you going to play these games? If so, why not just emulate them? You really think collecting Saturn games will make you grow as a person and become a better version of yourself? It won't. Maybe spend your time fostering relationships with people. Maybe start a family. Do something actually productive. After you've collected what you wanted, what then? What happens when you die? All that plastic and silicon will just get sold and picked off by vultures.

[@omega_sauce]

All retail companies buy and sell to make a profit. How is a video game reseller any different? Prices are dictated by supply and demand. Nothing wrong with it. People just mad they don't have the initiative to do it themselves. Don't do it myself as I don't want the hassle but don't hate on those that do it.

[@Sir_Psych]

This has been my dilemma for a long time. I've saved nearly every game I've ever bought with the collection being worth quite a lot at this point. I have a family that a large sum of money could make very happy. However, I struggle selling them at current prices, my gut tells me to find someone who genuinely loves games and have them take them. It's the same thing I did with my comics some years ago. I listed them online and a kid showed up who was excited to look through them. I just kept handing comic after comic of my favorites because it made him happy.

[@matthaskell1988]

People who made a lot of money were involved in the hobby before the masses flooded in. Quit crying folks. Either pay up or miss out. Welcome to life 👌. Supply and demand runs your entire world. Go outside and quit gaming if you’re super upset. Cartwheels are said to be a fun hobby! This was bound to happen. You showed up to the party way too late if you didn’t see this coming. It’s only going to get worse as we move into the digital era your Liberal buddies helped usher in.

[@GTA_500]

These guys are probably in it together.