Stop Trying To Fix Other People: Julie Piatt | Rich Roll Podcast

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Julie Piatt (a.k.a. SriMati) is a yogi, healer, musician, podcast host, mother of four and the bestselling author of three plant-based cookbooks. She's also my wife. Today we talk about our relationship, creativity, navigating financial hardship, grief, and her latest culinary endeavor - SriMu plant-based "NOT" cheeses.
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[@bethanyhagensen4005]

As a Midwesterner, I find new age language/branding difficult to relate with- and I hate to admit it but I hear a few new age phrases and my eyes start to roll. However, I really think my prejudice turned upside down when I got a few minutes in to this. Hearing Julie talk about her life experiences, the loss of the kid's dad and the impact of relapse- that's real life and it is so refreshing to hear people talk about their experiences as a family, a couple and as individual. The vulnerability here is just beautiful, thanks for sharing this.

[@denny3161]

Same for me...eyerolls etc...

[@evelynbaron2004]

Well as a Torontonian (Canada) Rich's speech inflexions are purely California; he's vital, he knows what he thinks; he's opened minded and lives with a woman I find very hard to like, I would also sleep in a tent but history is vr powerful. I will post above but I've had some time since watching this podcast and am currently working on the videos of Tom Petty whose 1st wife almost destroyed him. She was his abusive father re-incarnated; he never fought back; she could hit him, sleep with other people because he had no right to a life without her when on tour … is anyone seeing a pattern here? Also, post-Oprah, yes it's great to have couples counselling on the internet (not) but there are some serious boundaries that this woman crossed … and he let her do it.

[@evelynbaron2004]

ok This is an abusive relationship and the cow goddess is to blame. He won't fight back because of his history of alcohism and banrkupcy sorry about spelling this is a BAD |WOMAN

[@billbradleymusic]

Same. They're too kind. It's a ball buster. I'm unhappy they're perfect.

[@billbradleymusic]

@@evelynbaron2004 you have nailed that coffin shut.

[@shvonned.burkemsncrnpagpcn619]

I love that. “We find freedom in commitment.”

[@kristenoels5383]

This is changing so much for me. I'm a plant based, total addict in recovery. my partner is also an addict and recovering. When I think of the most beautiful couple for manifestation. It always go back to you two. Thank you .

[@shvonned.burkemsncrnpagpcn619]

Good luck! You got this ❤️

[@sarakelly4641]

This woman is beyond beyond. She is making connections and adding meaning to life.

[@holliebingham1311]

What a beautifully raw and devotional marriage, I'm in complete awe of the two of you. Julie, thank you for being unapologetically you and shining your light and wisdom on the world, I'm so inspired by your journey and strength! 💕

[@markj7612]

Simply one of a few best conversations that I've heard in my lifetime. Thank you.

[@stac3426]

Impressive person, thoughtful, seems honest, intelligent. Love to see women like her.

[@ssharp8900]

Julie is by far always my favorite guest! Always learn so much and so inspired to walk a higher path. Thank you Rich and Julie!!

[@hivolco151]

Rich, Thank you for mentioning the resistance to Calendar prescribed celebrations. For some reason I have always resisted Birthdays ( my own) Valentines day, Christmas, New years... whatever! LOL... SO I feel like we are kindreds in this regard! The two of you are GREAT together! Love this! Thanks for everything you share here!

[@used2bmorals]

Beautiful! Julie has awe inspiring wisdom and perspective. This conversation was so raw and so vulnerable thank you for going there and sharing the inside of your relationship so freely.

[@malgorzatadaniel6061]

Rich, Julie, what a beautiful episode! I love seeing the amazing flow and connection guys you have! thank you.

[@wephotogal]

Wow! Talk about an honest, candid and vulnerable beautiful conversation. Thank you for this.

[@cinthyalc1162]

Julie thank you! Hearing you gives me faith and I will forever keep fighting against the dying of the light ❤️

[@velocitygirl8551]

I come back to this every few months because I can’t quite figure out the bottom line. The closest I get is ... SHES moving on. She evolving. With or without you. Every time I watch, it’s exhausting. But I keep trying. I do find beauty in everything Srimati says lol ... so I’m trying. But I struggle with this ...

[@jjbenna]

Yes more Julie!!!! 🙏👍

[@shartmann2008]

can't imagine finding someone who cares, truly. you are both so fortunate.

[@J.Moyine]

Im glad Julie is getting the recognition she deserves with all her many gifts and wisdom and beauty. I can completely relate to how frustrating it is to have to wait for your gifts to be recognised or shared with the world due to constant adversity . We really appreciate the strength and devotion that you both show towards one another and your various art forms and businesses. And thank you Rich for always being prepared to show up and share the more vulnerable and raw aspects of yourself. The earth is a better place because both of you are alive and giving so generously to your community 💜

[@Ecotrekbistro]

Wow! Thank you Rich for this wonderful conversation. Julie you are truly amazing and even though this is the first time I have heard you, I felt connected and enlightened! I look forward to seeing more of you and all your works! Rich still love your work and you!

[@sabinabeinish2711]

Julie You are so vulnerable yet so strong The very best combination for a wonderful being and soul 🌗

[@klaudialatkowska4945]

Thank you so much for being there and sharing this! Wonderful and wise. Magical too

[@jbt6007]

Love watching you two interact on video. So much to watch in the communication with your facial expressions and eye contact.

[@bridgetc.marinaccio8024]

Julie-Thank you for your life’s work! You gave me a courage to step towards facing deep grief.

[@paullemay3218]

Thank you for sharing another wonderful podcast. I actually bought Julie’s book way before started following Rich took me a while to put the connection together. Doh!!🤦🏼‍♂️. Awesome plant based cheese recipes for sure. 🇨🇦😎

[@jenniferh8241]

Love this beautiful soul! What a great relationship and connection!

[@joanndehnert2933]

Great conversation. Julie’s opinions about mixed families and past relationships really resonated with me. Gave me food for thought. She is beautiful inside and out! Xo from Canada. Too bad I won’t be able to order her ‘cheese’

[@ioanacrisan603]

I love how SriMati explains her conscious living. MAde me realize a lot... Thank you

[@ginahamlyn2569]

The most profound podcast I’ve ever listen to. Thank you for your honesty and openness.

[@JenniferJohnson-jt8eb]

Love you guys! Appreciated this interview! Keep Evolving!!😃 Many many blessings to you and your family 💓💖

[@sumaclane8020]

what an amazing relationship.... real people real love ... thank you

[@joelkryeziu4095]

Thank you so much for sharing this. I love what you said about how we should talk about our older partners. It's very profound to see that you two are so different and such a good match. Connected very deep with this one

[@janelbert7887]

I love this! Thanks for sharing your vulnerabilities and path in your relationship!

[@danp3677]

As is with most of Rich Rolls podcast, there are many pearls to be plucked from this conversation.

[@constanceneal3717]

Yes to more ritual and ceremony! Doing together what is beyond convention!

[@chazmcculloch9487]

Absolutely love the conversations with Julie! The dynamic between you guys is really beautiful. Thank you! 🙏🏼❤️

[@doyouevennaturebro4593]

Dude, about freakin time! Need me some Julie.

[@lesleyhurst3890]

I just love you both so much xxxx thank you for the spectrum of awesome that you rain down on the earth

[@kimberlylacroix953]

Julie, you are an inspiration and this interview touched my soul. Thank you ❤

[@jenniferbutler8057]

You just made me Love You more. You are so REAL and I appreciate that.

[@3mily814]

I just signed up/bought a subscription box for SriMu! Rich Roll I started to follow you because you were a vegan ultrarunner or so I thought - it was really because I needed to find out about your wife! What an inspiration thank you for sharing!

[@FountainBeee]

Waited a long time for this podcast. Thank you for sharing.

[@lealea6020]

I cried when Julie talked about the kids dad dying... It's just soo sad to hear. On the happy note Rich loves to use the verb 'navigate' 😂😂😂😂

[@PaulCarterArt]

The reality and truth of your journey and life itself. To know thyself and grow through and breaking through the conditioned layers of lies is empowering. Thank you each for sharing this inspiring time capsule. To be continued 🗝🙏🏽no validation required

[@vaishalivaidya7978]

Just loved this entire conversation. Every conversation through every talk, every book, every movie, every interaction is only a process for self evolution. Thank you for such an honest, accountable, open conversation. I'm looking forward to share my experience with someone in similar ways and I had just said it aloud today to someone today. Universe listens when you are willing to talk through your whole undivided self...I guess it might be equally true it presents exactly itself through its representatives even when we walk in divided, unwhole to make us whole and realise our wholesomeness, our holiness😊. Stay blessed

[@ida5232]

💖💜♥️💙💚❤️💛💖💜♥️💙💚❤️💛💖 The Julie episodes are my very favorite! It’s always such a treat to hear Srimati! 💖💜♥️💛❤️💚💙💖💜♥️💛❤️💚💙💖

[@Doaa333]

Grow wiser together, or run away from the challenge separately! it's beautiful and inspiring to see that some people like you two stick to the first choice. keep it up even though i felt that you're trying to prepare everyone including yourselves, for a "cool" DIVORCE! I liked the interaction, even though it was too much personal.

[@89CIH]

I came to this episode of the podcast by chance. The way Julie talked about her divorce to hers children's father and describing the end of a (romantic) relationship as "completed" (and not as a failure) gave me a fresh perspective on my own breakup and makes me think that maybe I can have a new and different relationship with this person.

[@agniukaz10]

Well done, Rich! Couple dynamics are always WIP - you two are a beautiful couple :)

[@julie_273]

Great conversation! I'm so excited for Smrimu. It would be great if you could buy one box-- to try it as well as to make it accessible for people living on a budget.

[@maddymcloughlin9753]

Loved this!!

[@wellnessjunkie2564]

The depth of this made me uncomfortable in the beginning, but as the discussion evolved the sheer raw power of truth is breath taking. Mind opening. Loved it.

[@eve2929]

So exciting to hear about the long range view of the cheese!!!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@Caitlinsway]

This conversation was very inspiring. I'm really in awe of Julie and their relationship

[@langolier9]

If anyone deserves such a wonderful beautiful inside and out wife it’s you rich roll

[@shirleyeggenschwiler9482]

I appreciate the truth of all of these feelings... it has nothing to do with whether I agree or not or really whether they are married or not or even any judgement in the relationship ... just that it was one of those deeply true discussions. You are both sound different but I think that’s what makes this conversation therapeutic 🌸

[@sherylhokianga6075]

Beautiful!..ThankU Julie & Rich!

[@paccarcrap]

If this was one of my insecure jerk exes, it'd be...What?!! You're grieving about your ex? Were you still seeing him? Are you still in love with him? You're crying, why it's been 14 years??!! 🙄 ( That'd be my situation) Cheers to Rich for being secure.

[@bing_cct8984]

Love it. Love hearing from a woman her age to be so fierce and calming, so self assured. Love love

[@loveofinquiry3839]

Very powerful conversation. 💗🙏💗

[@Ribesuvacrispa]

So good! Thank you!

[@Rainbowday369]

I enjoy watching couples express their honest opinions to each other…I can relate to the missus due to past relationship knowledge..We’re humans we’re always going to make mistakes but unconditional love should be able to do the, for sickness and in health, the good and the bad etc and riding it out to the end…and what I know of trying to fix other people is a way to try to fix oneself and when you reach the point you no longer feel the need to continue to do that you have fixed yourself…

[@langolier9]

I never know what lessons I’m gonna learn from your guests but the one lesson I know I learned is that I will absolutely learn some thing that will allow me to live my best possible life or encourage me to do so

[@winsomecohall2250]

Yes I love that ,separate the action from the man and still hold him/ her up to the spiritual light ...You have a beautiful soul woman born out of life experience they all came to teach us something about ourselves these experiences is to shine light on the darkness within us our ego !! Rich is a patient man he gave her the space to talk about the past his love supports her and she can shine and it reflects on him .. this man is so beautiful.. awesome 👏 🙏

[@sabinabeinish2711]

Julie Amazing spirit 🌿🍂🌾💐

[@Cheriplaysbass]

I laughed. I cried. I’m now craving cheeze.

[@evelynbaron2004]

I don't crave cheeze just glad my partner isn't dumping his entire life history on me and we are best friends forever which is not happening here. We used to have a Siberian huskey and Pomeranian and he adopted her; she used to take food out of his mouth, because he let her; this the kindest version of what is happening here. It makes me angry, the arrogance of anyone when someone else does everything to get better and be responsible ….it's ugly

[@mzta]

Crave not cheese 🧀

[@HomeAtLast501]

Break out the potpourri, light the candles, and take a healing bath.

[@myc483]

My favorite podcast so far!

[@fabfabi70]

this was a really insightful and honest conversation, thank you both.

[@daramiguel8217]

i hope I find a love/companionship/spiritual connection with someone like this. ***MANIFEST!** THANK YOU for sharing such an intimate conversation. I cried.

[@brandoningersoll5034]

I love her perspective on relationships...tough lessons learn from experience. But knowing your death date?? I am recovering from a fundamentalist religious upbringing...my alarm bells were going off....it sounded so familiar but just cloaked in new lingo. Isn’t the whole point meditation is we don’t know what tomorrow will bring...we embrace the now and live there? The lust to have certainty leaves us prey for the mind to invent dogma to comply...in my experience. But she is otherwise and bright light and amazing human!

[@mynameisana09]

I was crying for half of the podcast. Julie is such a beautiful soul. I never watched her before..but listening to her touches me deeply.

[@daramiguel8217]

me too! im so moved.... i want to just sit in her presence.... I thought I loved Rich's presence... but hes been topped! LOL

[@willvaya]

One detail from this podcast I wanted to point out to everyone here. The road to a new life will be bumpy and not a linear growth curve without falls along the way. Julie talks about how Rich did not finish his first Ultra and subsequently relapse into drinking. I imagine it must have been hard for Rich to not even finish Ultra after sacrificing everything for it (and his family was sacrificing too). It must have been enormous pressure. He of course put himself back together again and he is where he is today. Stay the course if you stumble here and there along the way. It's normal and probably expected to stumble along the way. We just never hear about these details (unless your wife shares it on a 2 hour podcast :P)

[@claireandersongrahamkeller2744]

yep!

[@forbzy246]

That point hit me too! However these two are just beautiful human beings 😍

[@cthornton523]

At 28:00 when she talks about the children's father's passing... Thank you. My husband's ex-wife, mother of their children completed her suicide in 2016. I made it a point to find the good in her. Thanks for talking about your why, Julie. Useful stuff.

[@markchrysanthou9543]

I LOVE BOTH OF YOU SOOOOO MUCH!!!!! MISSED YOU BOTH DOING PC

[@mattwkendall]

Thank you for sharing this. Rich Roll please interview Sadhguru on your podcast. He is a phenomenon

[@katiie7]

I really enjoy your episodes with your wife. Great conversations

[@barbarastadler9773]

I really love you both!!!

[@erikljungberg1056]

One has to wonder if there isn't just a slight strand of narcissism running through Julie's personal brand of spirituality. Claiming to "know the spiritual essence, practice, rituals and awareness" to get someone out of their body and into the other realm is, to put it mildly, quite a massive claim. You can say a lot about the spiritual traditions of the world, whether they be Dzogchen or Tibetan Buddhism, but the fact that most of the authentic ones are based on a system of strictly guarded lineages, and careful and selective transmission, at least ensures that ones experiences have to subject to verification by a community of adepts. If the master asks you the koan, and you give the wrong answer, the master knows you have yet to attain the highest realization. Is this particular brand of spirituality not just another warm blanket for the ego to wrap itself in? The world in this view revolves around the ego; the universe sends it signs, there is a divine purpose oriented toward making it grow, it believes in its power to manifest the things it wants. All this talk of being a special kind of being, of being divine, capable of magic, having special knowledge. I have to wonder if there isn't another way of being in the world that avoids all of this egoic scaffolding. Or is this what the highest reaches of human development looks like? Or is there perhaps another way of apprehending the mystery. One that boasts no ability to magically alter reality. Where the ego is not granted a heroic leading role in the unfolding drama. In which there are no bells and whistles and grand fireworks. Just simply this.

[@mattwkendall]

Well put I get what you're saying. Check out Sadhguru. He's the real deal. Changed my life

[@davemcc7171]

exactly ... but at least you now know why Rich sleeps in a tent . On the roof.

[@ivana813]

You are uncomfortable with her claiming something. Instead of being critical of others, why is her claim bothering you to the point where you would spread criticism on online platforms? What do you need to work on in order to be comfortable with the her life? Maybe your ego is preventing you from seeing her words, her power and her confidence as a beautiful expression of her life’s ritual and practice, and love for the divine and connecting with it.

[@nimy3071]

This is a very revealing and self-learning Interview. Thank you

[@CafeCreativeYT]

Thank you for this episode, Definitely helped me enormously coming out of a toxic relationship.

[@jenniferh8241]

Same here. It's really enlightening and refreshing to see what a healthy, strong relationship is.

[@Jess1928]

So beautiful! Thank you for sharing. Do you or Julie have any recommended reading for increasing ritual and ceremony in our day to day lives?

[@travisb9507]

I’m happy she came on. I love the conversation depths, and really don’t like the hate in the comments

[@lilianagriseldaszachury1843]

Rich, congratulations 🥳 you have a great woman in your life!! I love her and she has been the best guest!!! She is the best 💐

[@lindaw140]

🌹👍❤️😊🙏🙏🙏so beautiful these two articulate individuals. I listened for the third times

[@The72Nana]

Do they laugh hysterically together I wonder. Anyhow, congrats for being able to keep your marriage happy, supportive and loving.

[@modusmidwest]

Love it!

[@kaity923]

Just re affirming my belief that all the best people are either Canadian or in a 12step program!! 😂 What a beautiful relationship! Thank you for sharing it with us. ❤️

[@nateshattuck4353]

Rich don’t for one minute think your not changing life’s because you’re really helping me change mine love ya bro god speed

[@stevengotts]

Thanks for sharing.

[@noellerizzato3914]

I so relate guys !!! And do celebrate love ❤️ and life everyday!!! Cheers 🥂

[@UO_Renaissance]

44:50 This was the most graceful and inspirational way to say, “you better remember our anniversary next year”. Time to focus on some work-life balance.

[@tedvangageldonk7698]

This was lovely. Thanks!

[@chlosuzanne]

Rich, Julie, whoever may receive these messages... I am asking for more vulnerable, honest conversations about your relationships, and allowing spirituality and divinity to play a part in these human “role-like” relationships. As a 20 year old woman, deeply invested in my divinity and spiritual practice, I am finding myself trying to navigate my long-term romantic relationship with my partner. Any insight from experts or wiser guides is so appreciated. I listen to this podcast often, just for reflection purposes. I would be so honored to hear more.

[@davebyrne0]

Love this

[@peayen5008]

What a beautiful open relationship they seem to have.

[@adrianwalsh7344]

Thank you for sharing

[@zoetele123]

Great communication

[@MrGeekUSA]

"We can't even go to a hotel, because you sleep in a tent" 😂

[@meghan42]

Sweet.

[@nicolagrimmer100]

BRILLIANT AND BEAUTIFUL SCOTLAND

[@m_c_d]

I will internally replay the days following my daughters fathers death. Her words, my words. Thanks for sharing.

[@xandricoetzee6698]

So sorry for you and your daughter's loss.

[@m_c_d]

@@xandricoetzee6698 thank you for taking a moment to write that, means more than you'll know x

[@xandricoetzee6698]

@@m_c_d You are sincerely welcome. Sending you and your daughter lots of positive energy. I hope that Julie's words and insights helped you somewhat in the grieving/accepting/healing process ❤️

[@lindaw140]

Instead of Netflix and phone and social media, lit a candle and ask for the divine force to guide and direct me. Julie Julie asked and negotiated and be assertive in her ideas and ceremonies are what she wanted. Very spiritual. Pay attention to spiritual world as we live day to day. Beautiful lady!

[@tracybrusman9538]

I love Julie; one wise woman