living 5 minutes away from where both Simone Manuel and Katie Ledecky goes to college, i have the privilege of watching them swim whenever they have a meet there. They are beasts!
@Auroralights3217 жыл бұрын
You're so lucky!
@gkaiser105 жыл бұрын
I live in the same town ledecky grew up in. my 8 and under 25m fly was faster than her by 0.08 I think
@kierstinbruner98854 жыл бұрын
@@gkaiser10 there is no such thing as a 25m fly
@Emma-vc2om4 жыл бұрын
@@kierstinbruner9885 for 8 and under it makes sense
@Fuzcapp4 жыл бұрын
@@kierstinbruner9885 There is for 8 year olds ....
@dedelms8 жыл бұрын
Oleksiak's reaction is priceless.
@dsfddsgh8 жыл бұрын
Really strange though how unlike most swimmers when they finish they automatically check the scoreboard she just stared at the wall for about 20 seconds before looking up at the scoreboard. It is cute how she reacts when she realizes that she's an Olympic champion.
@running_girl55128 жыл бұрын
17sunnyhour no she said in interviews she always takes a bit to catch her breath and collect her thoughts before turning. Watch her silver race she did the same thing
@DancerPlease8 жыл бұрын
Wendel Nogueira thats her reaction to every race she win a medal in!
@이노미-s4j7 жыл бұрын
Wendel Nogueira 아빠!ㅇㅇㅇㄴ???
@leomarinoo5 жыл бұрын
Yeah coz she's teenager on that day glad they win
@rainxdroplet7 жыл бұрын
This still makes me cry. So proud of Simone.
@jacquelinerussell85306 жыл бұрын
April Bunch Me too
@jacquelinerussell85306 жыл бұрын
April Bunch Me too
@blacksharkswimmer37295 жыл бұрын
yes. good work
@mickeyplace7778 жыл бұрын
it's tough enough to lose a race that you are a favorite to win; it is even tougher to compose yourself and congratulate the winner(s). the two Australian women show a lot of class and sportsmanship! much respect to them.
@michellejane90925 жыл бұрын
Well yes australia did think the gold & silver was theres, only Phelps can think that! 99% of the time he's right , im glad the aussie girls lost
@lakeeshamccall86045 жыл бұрын
thanh mai I saw them congratulate the Canadian. I must have missed them congratulate the American.
@HusseinDoha5 жыл бұрын
@@lakeeshamccall8604 You can see it at 1:57
@marshajulessa29954 жыл бұрын
bronte sisters always been classy no matter what such a talented fam and such a great win for these ladies!
@Christina-og9di4 жыл бұрын
I think it's the same Australien swimmer who also congratulated Pernille Blume when se won her gold medal in 50m. Pure class from that woman!
@benstoddard95838 жыл бұрын
A historic victory for both countries. For Canada, their youngest ever Olympic champion and the first Canadian to ever win 4 medals in a single Summer Olympic games (she was 7th at the turn too). For the United States, first black woman to ever medal in an individual swimming event, and both a gold and an Olympic record at that. Such a great race.
@asadrat8 жыл бұрын
Simone was the first black PERSON to medal in an individual swimming event from the US. Props to her
@billpang38248 жыл бұрын
Actually, Cullen Jones got a silver in the 50m Free in London 2012
@eldoug15898 жыл бұрын
Actually, it was Anthony Ervin that was first to win a gold when he tied with Gary Hall in the 50m free during the Sydney 2000 Olympics. He's part black and there's an awkward interview about it somewhere
@Hybridswimmer7 жыл бұрын
It's funny you have to point out the fact she is BLACK.
@chessrulz27 жыл бұрын
Its just part of history. You saying this comment just shows you immature you are. African Americans are the minority so yes, it is pointed out that she is of different color.
@9niverse5 жыл бұрын
Penny was 7th at the turn.. What an amazing last 50m from the 16 year old!
@liamoconnor4344 жыл бұрын
Marsha Julessa no one ever “expects to win” the olympics
@rustyshackleford79293 жыл бұрын
@@liamoconnor434 that’s one of the dumbest things I’ve read in a long time
@liamoconnor4343 жыл бұрын
@@rustyshackleford7929 I mean maybe someone like Simone biles might not expect it but Simone Manuel was expected to be like 6th based on times going on. Swimmers like cate Campbell were much better ahead of the olympics
@marshajulessa29953 жыл бұрын
@@liamoconnor434 she interviewed Simone that is that she expected to win that was her goal and plan look it up girl or go sit down!
@ehgabika6 жыл бұрын
Nearly two years later and Simone's reaction when she won still gives me so much joy. I remember watching this like it was yesterday
@mistertibbs11057 жыл бұрын
I never cheered so loud in my house with my family for this young Sistah. True Underdog
@beasmith36492 жыл бұрын
What does Sistah mean?
@piiinkDeluxe8 ай бұрын
@@beasmith3649i think because she's black and the commenter as well.
@TheLuscious7 жыл бұрын
If it had to be a dead heat I'm glad that Canada tied with our girl Simone Manuel. Our neighbors to the north
@zottffss7 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It's about time Canada and USA shared something. XD
@cinquine15 жыл бұрын
When the Olympics likes your comment
@rebekahwatson16005 жыл бұрын
Kayla Huang it was not rascist ur over reacting
@CanadaMMA5 жыл бұрын
So much history in a single race. The first woman of colour to win an olympic swimming gold, along with the first athlete born in the 2000s to win a swimming medal.
@ohhitisjustme5 жыл бұрын
TheLuscious I was thinking the same thing
@FELIPE-km9lf7 жыл бұрын
I come here from time to time just to see Penny´s reaction =)
@FELIPE-km9lf7 жыл бұрын
Her last ten to fifteen meters were unbelievable.. and without breathing!
@LeslieGMN7 жыл бұрын
FELIPE, me too! Simone’s is the perfect accompaniment!
@hanphilnoffz88275 жыл бұрын
I come here because they think black cant swim
@nadedjadannevik62727 ай бұрын
@@hanphilnoffz8827 Who cares what they think? We just need to know that we're great. It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.
@tomsea60178 жыл бұрын
That was a joy to watch
@wlcsp8 жыл бұрын
Simone was only second to Abbey at the trial. But she rose to the occasion. Congrats Simone.
@MrVpassenheim8 жыл бұрын
Yes, and her time at Trials was a 53.54 - so she stepped up in a big way on the biggest of stages. Guts.
@JohnSmith-qd1zl7 жыл бұрын
MrVpassenheim and now she has gone down to a 52.27!! From Budapest!! She doesnt crumble at all!!
@bobbiemoore22506 жыл бұрын
samile
@bobbiemoore22506 жыл бұрын
simon
@mollyhunt82405 жыл бұрын
And congrats to Penny too!!
@charlidamelioshoulddieandb97557 жыл бұрын
Both deserved a win ! Congrats to both US and Canada ! Friendly neighbors !
@boydj27028 жыл бұрын
Wow...that is special! Awesome! Congrats USA and Canada!
@dsfddsgh8 жыл бұрын
Canadian girl could be a beast by the time of Tokyo. She races a bit like Phelps takes it out slow but has explosive speed in the back 50.
@MrVpassenheim8 жыл бұрын
She'll hold the WR by the time Tokyo rolls around and will be the prohibitive favorite.
@healed13378 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that at 16, she's already the 3rd fastest woman in history for the 100m butterfly without the use of the now banned tech suits.
@MrVpassenheim8 жыл бұрын
healed1337 Yep. She's a once in a generation swimmer, much like Katie Ledecky, except I think she has the potential of being a more all-around swimmer. If she stays healthy and is consistent, she has the potential of being the best ever. She will need to diversify and be consistent for at least a few more years before that can be entertained though.
@benstoddard95838 жыл бұрын
+MrVpassenheim The 200m freestyle seems to be the threshold between Katie Ledecky and Penny Oleksiak's skill set. The women's 200m freestyle swim could very well be the most exciting race of the meet in four years from now if they both keep improving.
@MrVpassenheim8 жыл бұрын
Ben Stoddard I don't know about that. I see that for Sarah Sjostrom, but Penny's already better than both Sarah and Katie were at that age at that distance. Penny swam a 1:54.9 relay anchor in Rio to Katie's 1:53.7. I think Katie was a 1:56 low at 16, so Penny's about a half second faster and could possibly improve her endurance even when endurance was Katie's wheelhouse from the start. I think the threshold becomes the 400 in this case.
@sulesoricon29776 жыл бұрын
I hope Simone and penny develop a good friendship
@diegaah6 жыл бұрын
Simone Manuel!!!! 🎉 thank you thank you!!! Simone is for sure a winning name!!
@RickeGnool4 жыл бұрын
I don't really know why but I love that two people can tie for first place like this.
@Whitneypyant8 жыл бұрын
Yea USA and Canada!!!! Go Simone and go Penny!!!
@hanphilnoffz88276 жыл бұрын
one just fresh from teen one still in high school she close enough to be born 21 st century she just shy 2001 start it
@TamilBullet8 жыл бұрын
CANADA
@mikechien78116 жыл бұрын
TBullets Blog390
@mialitten96356 жыл бұрын
TBullets Ya
@saudiaarabia16078 жыл бұрын
Simone Manuel, boss.
@gregmaurice49304 жыл бұрын
@1 Garoto 2 Mundos you hate your self
@campbellderrico4 жыл бұрын
Your just jelous of her lol
@IndianOutlaw18703 жыл бұрын
@@campbellderrico "You're" and "jealous"
@campbellderrico3 жыл бұрын
@@IndianOutlaw1870 sorry but does spelling really matter?
@tommytucker54648 жыл бұрын
Joint gold medalists here, triple joint silver in the men's..these swimming events sure are getting competitive.
@100-m7j6 жыл бұрын
Let's go sister youre an inspiration im 34 year old and I never tought something like that was possible.Congrats!
@MikeySkywalker3 жыл бұрын
What a comeback by Simone.
@gabrieljuventus7 жыл бұрын
16 Years Old: Olympic Record :o
@tomaliafern42194 жыл бұрын
girls: hugging it out after tying boys: absolute war
@xpertwolff3 жыл бұрын
lmaoo true we'd argue the times were wrong
@fortheloveofcats24623 жыл бұрын
We made history, my friend. Oh, how the times have changed.
@Amanda.Nikole5 жыл бұрын
This STILL makes me tear up.. Congrats to both these girls!
@bobbyrob12814 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this live. Amazing moment. ✨
@alexroberson44543 жыл бұрын
Anyone else watching this before the start of the Tokyo Olympics this year? This race was wild, even more so when I think about the fact that the two Campbell sisters who were leading at the turn didnt even medal in this event. I hope the games are just as competitive this year, and I especially hope that Manuel can bring home a medal.
@jammerakwaii8 жыл бұрын
What a race!!!!
@jeanmarccoeur-blanc94648 жыл бұрын
she's black lol
@jammerakwaii8 жыл бұрын
So? She and the Penny beat the current WR holder. Won Gold. And I'm sure she will be fine in life as well, especially she will get a degree at Stanford. Nuff said.
@healed13378 жыл бұрын
correction - they're Olympic record holders. The world record is held by Cate Campbell of Australia, at 52.06. She was the gold medal favourite here but badly succumbed to nerves.
@kantricedorsey81428 жыл бұрын
So it couldn't have just been that a couple of faster athletes just beat her this time?
@kantricedorsey81428 жыл бұрын
I love how you stated that!
@robboinnz5 жыл бұрын
I just read that Cate thought she was going to be disqualified because she moved just before the start, I just checked and she did move a bit as the start bell went. Explains a bit. Well done to winners
@lorddarkrai57533 жыл бұрын
That was definitely unfortunate.She had that race , easily.
@thelaststand16748 жыл бұрын
that was sensational
@blacksharkswimmer37295 жыл бұрын
2019 I'm crying. my girl was getting it.
@zottffss7 жыл бұрын
The race that made history in two different directions. I was also super happy seeing USA and Canada finally share a medal, and it's even better seeing them share a GOLD medal.
@eolonade8 жыл бұрын
Wow, awesome inspiration, these two. Simone Manuel is a huge inspiration for the black race.
@BlueHopi1446 жыл бұрын
black community u meant probably ....
@TheRealOtakuEdits4 жыл бұрын
@@BlueHopi144 They tried
@kaiiiiii39343 жыл бұрын
i just discover this year 100M Gold (51.96) , Silver (52.27) and Bronze (52.52) medal all Faster than Rio 2016 Champion 😂 Amazing Swimmer Improve a lot in these 5 years 🏊🏻♀️🤩
@ulberonurakin42313 жыл бұрын
Even the number 4, who is ironically Penny Oleksiak, did better (52.59)than her last timing (52.70) which brought him gold medal back then. Such a big improvement girls, Kudos!
@rogerc237 ай бұрын
Suits.
@brucealcoriza16067 жыл бұрын
USA...always got the elite and the best athletes. Simone Manuel just took everybody by surprise ! And with that, I am proud to be an American...:))
@nguyenkhanhtrung27078 жыл бұрын
There must have been something wrong with Cate Campbell in the last 25 meters, you see she didn't pull the water strongly at all, it's like she was running out of energy. However, in 100 Women's Medley Relay, She broke the WR, I'm so glad of you, Cate Cambell, The Greatest Woman in Swimming
@1ajdelacruz6 жыл бұрын
she choked- lesser humans have done the same
@zottffss7 жыл бұрын
Penny is almost like Phelps. She was 7th at the 50m turn but like Phelps, charges in the second half to share gold. I think she'll be the favorite to win the 100m in 2020 Tokyo.
@sunrise56725 жыл бұрын
Thanks for positive energy and inspiration 👏👏
@jkbc7 ай бұрын
I love watching Olympic, a lot of surprising winners that emerged out of nowhere. Based on this, being the fastest during the trial is no guarantee someone can win the Olympic event. Look forward to watch 2024 Olympic this summer.
@Lion-fj3wp4 жыл бұрын
I'm here in 2020🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@pandra66955 жыл бұрын
Who else remember Camille Muffat? Rest In Peace🖤
@ΒαγγεληςΦραγκος-δ1ω7 жыл бұрын
Simone Manuel is amazing
@massivemagoo3 жыл бұрын
A sad moment in Australian Olympic history but I'm glad this has been all washed away with 2 Aussies winning gold n bronze just yesterday in Tokyo
@Sargebri8 жыл бұрын
Slight boo boo by the analyst. She said Hogshead and Steinseifer (sp) had their dead heat in 1985. The dead heat happened in 1984.
@joeyjerry29816 жыл бұрын
Brian Washington, true.
@Domino133348 жыл бұрын
Ahhh imagine one was 0,01 sec faster, would be a dissapointing silver, now they re both happy champions :)
@Agent-bm1dv3 жыл бұрын
Canadian Track suit looks very cool compare to the 2021.
@nadedjadannevik62727 ай бұрын
Simone and Penny should have known they came in first place when the cameramen put the cameras so close in their faces after the swim was complete lol!
@JerichoMile44 жыл бұрын
Uh...Simone Manuel at 0:21 "I can win !" and at 4:03 bites the gold medal !!
@studiousboy6444 жыл бұрын
These woman are the reason why i respect woman so much.
@BuckarooBanzai3333 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to get a longer extended version of this event?
@Vanfinity886 жыл бұрын
"it was a dead heat"! woo hoo, 2 OR and 2 gold medals!
@patrickcallow46058 жыл бұрын
i swam this today and I beated my time from 1:20 to now 1:15 !!!! so happy right now !!!!
@Fuzcapp4 жыл бұрын
Now for a 1:12 and then a 1:10 champ!!! :-)
@zexu3 жыл бұрын
INCREDIBLE!
@TheLuscious7 жыл бұрын
Best part is they are the same age and we'll probably see them in 2020 in another Olympic final
@yeolmucake7 жыл бұрын
TheLuscious simone manuel was 20 years old actually
@hanphilnoffz88276 жыл бұрын
penny was just 16 nearly miss those olden age 0-2000 and nearly miss millennial im born 2001
@hanphilnoffz88276 жыл бұрын
did penny drop out high school
@zain40196 жыл бұрын
hanphil cho no she didn’t! She actually was really looking forward to going back, though she didn’t know how to take her sudden fame in Canada. Swimmers and Olympic athletes usually have a different school schedule because their training is so intense, but they still learn. It is important after all :)
@frasergibson57634 жыл бұрын
No you won’t 😂
@ulberonurakin42313 жыл бұрын
Just asking out of curiosity, it is impossible for 2 or more guys to touch to the walls at the same EXACT moment. If they have the same timing at centi-second level (2-digit resolution) then why didn’t they examine with slow motion camera and go to the milisecond level (3-digit resolution)? Is it well defined legislation of the IOC that if two contestants have the same time with resolution until centisecond that they both are counted to have the same rank, or what? I’m pretty sure we have sufficient technology to detect who did indeed finish “earlier”. P.s: I am not the cruel guy who wants to remove one of the gold medals, contrarily I’m very excited about that but I am just asking out of curiosity.
@aussiemma84264 жыл бұрын
Cate Campbell clearly the best in this event for many years but always seems to choke at the Olympics
@frasergibson57634 жыл бұрын
Cate Campbell is so frustrating to watch. She swims brilliantly in relays but always chokes in individual races
@lorddarkrai57533 жыл бұрын
It's true she needs to focus more on individual races.She does have the full potential to be the best
@kehindetitobi68823 жыл бұрын
Penelope's last 50m was impressive
@pagekapufi19475 жыл бұрын
Simone you are just beautiful!!!
@patrickcallow20368 жыл бұрын
wow such amazing race :) such amazing athletes :) iam swimming 100 meter freestyle tonight at my swim meet :) iam looking forward to it :)
@Olympics8 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@patrickcallow20368 жыл бұрын
thanks :) I know I will do great for my high school swim team :) I've been swimming since I was little :) but ive been swimming compedely on swim meets for about 2 years :) my goal is to be a pool lifeguard this summer :) swimming to me been the best sport I ever done in my life life :) even if its hard work I still love it :)
@patrickcallow20368 жыл бұрын
Olympic. hey again thank you so much for wishing me good luck :) it helped me alot :) I swam the 400 freestyle relay and I did great :) I litteraly won the swim meet when geting last points in the 400 freestyle relay :) thank you so much my next swim meet is next Tuesday :) super excited Ian not nerves I know exactly what do but this time I want to beat my time in the 50 freestyle right now I have a time of 34.6 seconds and I want to get 24 seconds so that I can get qualified for states which the time for that is 25.0 seconds :) I know I can bear that time :) wish me good luck :)
@caroletunik8 жыл бұрын
GOOD LUCK!!!! EVEN THO ITS A BIT LATE FOR YOUR NEXT MEET LOL
@galesayers343 жыл бұрын
*Shares a new Olympic record and gold medal* Oleksiak reaction: “OH MY GOODNESS!” Yepp. Definitely Canadian. Congrats, ladies! 🇺🇸🇨🇦
@carlosguimaraes2512 Жыл бұрын
Incrível... ... Inesquecível... ... Se eu fosse o juiz de chegada??? ... Não sei... ... Mas, acho que Manuel ganhou... ...
@futuristicvisionary10757 жыл бұрын
Where is the men's?
@Samramos4488 Жыл бұрын
AHMM..2 GIRLS DEADHEAT WON THE GOLD AND THE OTHER WON SILVER, WHO WON THE BRONZE? I DON'T UNDERSTAND, CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN? THANKS
@darrentan45792 жыл бұрын
Brazil Let’s Visit
@manalym25226 жыл бұрын
simon and everyone else did good
@ethansgames20058 жыл бұрын
good job United States of America and Canada
@wlcsp6 жыл бұрын
Cate Campbell is a beauty
@lilyj.47737 жыл бұрын
GO CANADA GO!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOO GO OLEKSIAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO CANADA GO!
@bannor993 жыл бұрын
The New York Times & the USA media in general really gave Penny Oleksiak the short end of the stick while fawning over Simone Manuel. The 3 favorites got caught & beaten /matched by a teenager who was in *7th* place with 25 meters to the finish
@carlotta4th3 жыл бұрын
Oleksiak is Canadian, not American, and US coverage of the olympics is always heavily US focused. Maybe it shouldn't be (I'd certainly like to see more of other countries) but them not covering Oleksiak is very standard for the norm.
@bannor993 жыл бұрын
@@carlotta4th "maybe it shouldn't be"? Of course it should NOT. The Olympics is, obviously, INTERNATIONAL. And sport is all about struggle & rivalry. Now, in Tokyo, Oleksiak has just done it AGAIN to Simone Manuel, overcoming a 0.65 second deficit in the anchor leg of the 4x100m freestyle, to catch up to her by the flip turn and beat her to the finish by only THREE HUNDREDTHS of a second, snatching away the silver medal by a margin no human eye can discern. THAT is sport!
@RFKPeaceNIK195 жыл бұрын
Simon Manuel will WIN Gold in the next Olympics, Tokyo 2020. U.S. Superstar Swimmer.
@malhar0734 жыл бұрын
So which country's national anthem was played?
@IndianOutlaw18703 жыл бұрын
Both
@victorhugooquendovargas54795 жыл бұрын
Fantastic
@giulionicolini50643 жыл бұрын
Hai Vai Fede sei prima stile sei brava
@stephcurry23505 ай бұрын
They can't go 1000th of a second like the 100M sprint?!
@sabsanchezzz7 жыл бұрын
I plan on doing swimming and making it to the Olympics by working hard! Hopefully one day I’ll make it.
@imviiku6 жыл бұрын
Its 2016 and We Still Can't See Thousandth of second.. Just look at F1..there is no way two athletes can touch at same time..
@officialwhitehousestudentf66225 жыл бұрын
The USA's Simone Manuel and Canada's Penny Oleksiak tie for gold and set an Olympic Record in Women's 100m Freestyle in Rio 2016.
@farhanyusfriansyah21064 жыл бұрын
Nama event itu apa ya? Kalo boleh tau
@zabag3 жыл бұрын
Oleksiak has such a cute reaction. We lobe you, Penny 🇨🇦
@apigadi11816 жыл бұрын
All are good swimmers
@quynhhnhu14357 жыл бұрын
there is still one last Olympic Games for Campbell sisters, i strongly believe Cate will rise above herself and break her new world record- Be Strong
@BlueHopi1446 жыл бұрын
let's see this summer first ....
@emma-bm6mu6 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this in class live with everyone. We we all screaming at the whiteboard cheating for the Campbell’s
@harshvardhanshukla15344 жыл бұрын
Nice two gold medals
@amarilissanchez37677 жыл бұрын
Maravilloso empate
@darrentan45792 жыл бұрын
Brazil FIFA World Cup
@GoldShower15 жыл бұрын
I heard they sent Penny to Rio to understand the Olympics, so in 2020 she'd be able to have experience, and in 2024 she'd be competing for a medal. Methinks the timetable was a wee bit off.
@nerorex77215 жыл бұрын
What I heard was she was training to be sent to the 2020 olympics as her first Olympics, but then she improved a lot over a short period of time so got sent to the 2016 one and exceeded everyone’s expectations
@jjaa61572 жыл бұрын
It was 1984 in Los Angeles, lady, get your facts straight!
@Wolfsky96 жыл бұрын
What a finish ---by both !! ---------------WolfSky9
@jayanthperera71592 жыл бұрын
Campbell swam so fast in first 50m so couldnt save energy to accelerate in the 2nd 50
@dank14048 жыл бұрын
poor Cate :(
@raymondvictor93864 жыл бұрын
I remember watching her and Bronte on national channel after the Olympic games. She shed a lot of tears when it came to this moment. But i am very glad that now she is back and ready for another Olympic 2021.
@WilliamShinveritas6 жыл бұрын
Good spurt by manuel ..!!!
@hsiaofhongtan19334 жыл бұрын
talk about a close finish!
@Henrykhine1154 жыл бұрын
Girls can you tell me how you guys swim faster than arrows? . For me, I almost drowned in 3 feet swimming pool when I was 4 feet,, after that, no more water to swimming. hahha..
@JerichoMile44 жыл бұрын
Simone Manuel is a cool Stanford Cardinal 🏊 👍
@albertoaguilar97737 жыл бұрын
So which national anthem was played during the ceremony?.
@tiawilliams56907 жыл бұрын
mikhail rascalov They played both back-to-back.
@o.ghanylo6173 жыл бұрын
Don't you think there were supposed to be 4 people in the podium? Two for gold and two for silver and bronze. I only see three, i.e., two for golds and one for bronze. The Swedish was supposed to get the silver and the Australian a bronze.
@christianotsuma19877 жыл бұрын
Anyone notice at the end the legs of Manuel and Oleksiak are the most engaged and they tied....guess those legs are really important....