RIP goth camel spider

[@STEVE_C_1369]

With the ones from the middle east,they are living in an arid,hot climate. I notice most folks like to krep theirs in an enclosure that they spray with water,thus the humidity may be a bit much...the temperature may not be suitable and the fact that they probably get moisture from their prey...give them a much dryer area..AND..give them a larger living space.They are roamers at night.

[@tragickai5856]

Should they have a heat source? Not a pad but maybe a light in a large aquarium type enclosure that is far enough away they don't burn but runs hot enough to mimic their environment?

[@STEVE_C_1369]

@@tragickai5856 Thats basically my point.

[@arasartsandjewelry7647]

We have solefuges here in AZ and they don't do well in captivity even here as well.

[@stevepalpatine2828]

@@arasartsandjewelry7647 I had one I found under my truck that I kept, I had it for well over a year because I remember two Thanksgivings where I was talking to my cousin about it. I used to feed it crickets and bugs I found outside.

[@melissahotta8641]

Thanks to you and the Dark Den, I was able to convince my husband to let me get a tarantula. We just got it yesterday and omg, I’m in love!

[@robinmartin1517]

What kind of tarantula? I would love to possibly get one but I still get a little bit of spider scaries when I see them in person.

[@melissahotta8641]

We got a juvenile Avicularia Avicularia, unsexed, unknown morph type. It’s definitely still pretty fast and bolty, but it’s such a beautiful, low maintenance pet. Even without any “spider scaries”, I was still a little shaky and unsteady with rehousing. Totally worth it though!

[@CuteMarie26]

You are so lucky. I watch kat, dark den, and exotic lair and my husband wont budge. I won't loose hope though.

[@trishalynn6797]

@@CuteMarie26 same! Got him to be ok with a bearded dragon. Small steps lol

[@stephaniesaslut12616]

Did yall pick out a name yet?

[@lilnimbus4cr548]

If this was 2006, that camel spider would have been indestructible. Remeber, they used to run at 35mph. Lol in all seriousness, life goes on. Love the content, keep it up 👍🏼

[@michaeltrent2599]

In 2006 the average camel spider was the size of my torso. It's sad that they have declined so quickly.

[@winnienguyen4420]

Ah yes that was the first year I ever heard about the Camel Spider. There were all sorts of conspiracy theories about them. People thought they were very large, extremely venomous, and only found in the middle east. All of which are completely false.

[@eriklaroi8]

Goth camel spider’s story has been validating for me, recently I tried everything I could to save some voles that were gonna get mowed. but they were just so fragile. Despite our good intentions, things happen. RIP fragile creatures.

[@tarantulakat]

😢😔

[@WhiteIndoraptor]

@@tarantulakat I’m sorry you lost your camel spider 😔😢

[@stitchinstella2425]

aww I'm so sad goth camel spider couldn't stay with us longer, I had seen so many posts lately of people that had gotten camel spiders and I won't lie they were tempting me to get one. I think I'll pass now though knowing how things have gone for you and others though. I live in a place where we some times see them if you go out to the sand dunes though so I can appreciate them if they decide to roam out while I'm out. Also glad you liked the items! I can't remember if I mentioned it but the keychain has a plastic layer over it that you can peel off it protects it while shipping so it doesn't get damaged.

[@emmalee6512]

I genuinely thought your mic was a fluffy cushion on your sofa! 🤣

[@ducky8552]

It looks like it!!! 😂

[@natashalewis7352]

“Angry for being alive” ~mood

[@danielnascimento6300]

Google says they only live for a year in the wild so it definitely must be short lifespan! You gave them a lovely life in that time 💗 love your channel!

[@dRac_XII]

that's not even true though do a couple more "googles"

[@monke2109]

That was one of my favorites from your collection, and I am so sorry for your loss. I wish you the best of luck

[@Katiethewizard]

A cool way that I've been preserving specimens is by filling the jar with alcohol hand sanitizer, that way the specimen doesn't move around and can be posed or placed anyway you want!

[@katyann4198]

Man, I wish I thought of adding sanitizer! I put both of my deceased camel spoods in little tiny jars with alcohol.

[@Katiethewizard]

@@katyann4198 You still can! I always used to replace the alcohol a couple times after putting a specimen in anyways just because it gets kinda yellow and yucky

[@mariestubbs4606]

R.I.P lil Goth, sorry for your loss Kat lookin forward to your next video ...

[@kirbyjoe7484]

In the wild, sun spiders aren't particularly short-lived as far as invertebrates go. I live in an area they are native to, although they are not common, and I used to leave the porch light on at night to see what sorts of interesting critters it would attract. The light would attract certain insects like moths which in turn attracted predators occasionally. Some of the predatory bugs were territorial and I'd see the same specimen return repeatedly over multiple months or even years in some cases. I remember seeing one particularly distinctive big camel spider on and off all year until the winter came which means they live at least as long as jumping spiders in the wild but in captivity, they tend to suffer FAR shorter life spans than jumpers which suggests captivity just kills them.

[@lisamareepritchard6375]

Aww, so sad about Goth Camel Spider, maybe they are not meant to be kept in our world. Bless you for trying Kat,hope the other 2 do well, thanks for sharing 💕

[@SarahG1183]

Goth camel spider has gone to rainbow bridge! Happy trails! Digress story to your tattooist is hilarious. Fingers crossed for Sunny! BUT if there is the fluke that you can get them to survive and breed then it's a 'prevent extinction' event! That enamel pin is cute!

[@suzannebauer6234]

When you said Goth Camel Spider had passed, and you started explaining more about the species, I actually started to wonder what their life span was. In any case, it always sucks to lose something you love. On the bright side, there's room from another tarantula....... ;0)

[@odinbekkemellem4225]

Ive been waiting for you to post all week❤️ love from Norway

[@tarantulakat]

sorry, got a little behind, thank you

[@Kumoruis]

Bless him.. Sorry for your loss Kat, interesting thoughts however. On the bright side... You now have a free enclosure... 😏

[@arp2303]

When I was younger I got one and it passed away after a few months and it made me very sad. Knowing keeping it alive for almost a year as my first arachnid makes me feel like a gud diligent keeper

[@jodilynn9514]

“My little muscles” lol! You’re so cute! 😂🥰

[@lougus7076]

After watching the video of the goth spider testing out the new habitat, it had the same reaction as my ant colony when I introduced them to a certain soil type.. the way it kept touching the soil and then going back on the cork piece. Next time you keep camel spiders try a different soil type.. like mainly sandy mixed with repti soil or normal soil from outside..

[@mtremback3]

Omg YESSSS! Elliot from Cobweb castle sounds like my type of person! Ive had a kukulcania for pver a year now and I love her so so so much. I might need to figure out how to get one of his enclosures! That thing is amazing

[@Kat-dx2vl]

I’m so sorry to hear :( Hugs for you Kat! You’re doing great!

[@amandalucky8211]

Honestly it could be that we're just still learning what they need to live out healthy lifespans in captivity. The reality is that the longer any given species is available in captivity, the longer their captive lifespan tends to get because keepers as a whole learn more about what does and doesn't work with them. Unfortunately that means species that have not been in captivity for a very long time tend to die earlier on than they otherwise would have, and while that sucks I think for a lot of species it is inevitable until we better understand their captive needs. That said, maybe as we keep these guys in captivity longer we will come to understand their needs better and more information on how to keep them healthy for longer periods of time will come available.

[@aries_chaos]

"even though it is very angry to be alive" I think we can all relate.

[@xapcommanderx101]

If you plan on getting another just get a more lengthy enclosure this arachnid is always on the move it rarely stays put so a more lengthy enclosure will help

[@toottootbleetbleet]

"Although it's very angry to be alive" Same little guy

[@christielynn4342]

Tarantula Kat....I love you and your awesome videos! Your down to earth and real. I appreciate your wisdom and information you provide. I haven't gotten started yet on my hobby....but by watching you and others share the passion and love for this hobby just puts a big smile on my face! Keep on doing what you do, and keep up the awesome work girl!! 💜👍😊 I'm a loyal and dedicated fan. If ya can't tell. Lol I love them all, but I have a soft spot for jumping spiders! They are so interesting and intelligent. I've always made sure when I came across them, to make sure they were placed somewhere safe and to go on to live a good spider life!

[@jessicapearson9479]

By the way. I have a ton of those house spiders!!! I usually leave about 4 to 5 alone then take all the rest outside and release them. They are fast breeders 😐

[@Galactic_rats]

I almost got some camel spiders after seeing yours but had second thoughts as I decided I didn’t agree with having WC animals just to die in captivity with little to no hope in breeding them. They are so cool I wish it wasn’t the case. But thanks for being honest and raising awareness to the issue.

[@MaeDae9779]

I have never been a huge arachnid fan, only from a distance, but your videos make me want to get one. My son is nicknamed the "Bug Boy" at school because he is notorious for saving spiders from being squished and identifying them to the teachers and other students.. And he would LOVE if I had a spider enclosure. Maybe one day, soon.

[@bugloverspiderlover8490]

Sounds like me! I was always called bug boy in school and was constantly getting called to the classrooms to save bugs. I was actually in the insect identifying contest in high school and I got first In county and fifteenth in the state of Texas!

[@matsa8949]

I've always wanted a camel spider but have heard they are extremely hard to keep in captivity. I was watching your story closely to see what happens to make my decision to try getting one. I'm sorry for your loss, I know you really loved it, but I am very much decided on not trying to keep one. Thanks for sharing your story!

[@deandavis8165]

Since most solifuges are annuals, and brought into the hobby grown or near full grown, I don't think ethics enter into it. I've kept and bred a couple US species, captive hatched young from gravid import females and raised them, rarely had any live longer than a year, and those only by a couple weeks or a month. Many brumate 6 months a year, still die at a year. Someone below mentions heat as a factor with middle eastern/north African species, and this is true (as it is for US desert species)- there has to be a daily temperature cycle and a large enough cage and depth of substrate for temperature gradients. Some species like a damp hide (50% humidity) with a bone dry cage. Rocky Mountain species generally like it damper and cooler. Some require sand, some sandy loam, some forest soil, some clay soil. Having a knowledge of habitat helps extend their lives, but more than 12 months? Nah. So is it unethical to keep mantids? They only live a year, and often die in molt. Unethical to keep orb weavers? Annuals again. I have kept a variety of octopus species. The little blue ring octopuses top out at 9 months, you may extend that to a year with low temps. Most other species live 11-14 months no matter what you do. And no matter what you do, the last few days to weeks are sad and ugly as they get dementia. In the wild they'd be killed by a moray eel or other predator as soon as senescence sets in. Raise most beetles, eggs to grub to pupa to adult? Year, tops. The good that people can do if they keep records, disseminate info, bring awareness of the boundless diversity of life forms out there is endless. Bioclocks have no ethics. And like most inverts, 99% die before the age of reproduction in the wild, and are often busy killing EACHOTHER even then as we've both seen.

[@amypanddirtytoo1926]

Yeah I was wondering about that. If they die in captivity at the same time as they would in the wild, then there really isn't anything unethical about it. If they would live, like, 15 years in the wild and no one could keep them in captivity longer than a year then, yeah, maybe not so ethical to keep them. But at the end of the day I think people forget that tarantulas are the exception, not the rule. There are insects that have a 24 hr life cycle, a lot of arachnids one to two years.🤷

[@amyesworldcatherinesminime7945]

One could say sorter-lived animals are a good choice as pets, if their needs are met. They're less likely to suffer from a change in their human's circumstances. The human less likely to have the heartache of rehoming a beloved friend. And the human can learn about many different species by being a serial keeper. That's my intention. I have a mature male CB P. regius, and this week caught a juvenile Salticus scenicus on my windowsill. I'm considering a mantis when the inevitable happens to my older jumper.

[@neonlights_12]

Good comment. Another popular one that Kat even keeps is jumping spiders. They live a year or two max, very few people have gotten them to three years, and if you get one as an adult you can probably expect less than a year of time with it. That's just the nature of the critters, yet they're incredibly popular to keep as pets! It's just the nature of some creatures to be born, live, try to mate, and die, and if an experienced person wants to keep them to have something that most people don't because they ARE so short lived, I don't see a problem

[@stevepalpatine2828]

I found one in Arizona under my truck that I kept and I had it for well over a year, don't know if it was really young when I found it but I remember showing my cousin it two Thanksgivings in a row so it must have lived well over a year. I wonder how long they can live for.

[@Evavassilieva]

I'm on holiday with a very bad WiFi service but I managed to watch the video... What can I say... Im so sorry for your loss, I know you love camel spider a lot so I send you all my love from a very small island in the Mediterranean Sea! Thanks for sharing even if is not easy to you due the very emotional feeling about it. Anyway great video as always!!!! Love you! ❤️❤️❤️

[@shaunacorrigan9372]

There are so many animals, of all types, that just don't thrive in captivity no matter what you do. Or that do ok being kept in captivity but are impossible to breed. I'm glad to hear you kind of warning people off from keeping them, at least until those more experienced than the average layperson figure out if they can be kept successfully

[@mapl3sh4de14]

I hope to become that person once I go to college.. I have a deep interest in this species and I would love to learn so much about them

[@a_m5115]

Most camel spiders do not live for very long around a year, maybe more if they hibernate. Some issues that can reduce their lifespan are: Humidity: they live in very dry to completely desertic enviroments. Mold: due to high humidity. Light: they don't like light, they are nocturnal. It stresses them out. Lack of space: in nature they are very active and move around a lot.

[@asylumental]

Totally going to get a cobweb castle for one of my jumpers

[@danielnascimento6300]

“Very angry to be alive” - I know that feeling….. 🤣

[@florencecoen5919]

Sorry for your loss. A cool species.

[@coldcountess]

So very sorry for your loss.

[@heavymetalhorseman2068]

My friend had a tan Iranian Camel Spider that he smuggled back from Desert Storm. He put it in a 200 gallon fish tank that he converted into a terrarium and said it lived almost 2 years, but his emerald tree snake ate it.

[@isopodpros1958]

As far as I know camel spiders usually only live about a year even in the wild.

[@Ramiiam]

If the problem is short lifespan, that's not the fault of keeping them.

[@Kageoni187]

Maybe try different food options. Two of my Ts will refuse a prey of a particular species after they have had it a few times. Then when I put something different in jump right on it. Can't hurt try shaking up the diet a bit. Omg. I want some of Stella's art!! Just found online, it says they live for 1 year. If that's true, it could be why people are surprised when they expire. Because compared to Ts and scorpions that is not long.

[@hollybaker3918]

Thank you Tarantula Kat for your fascinating and educational videos. I love your work

[@cheekerpot3008]

Noooo, sucks! Sorry for the loss... I feel the community is still just missing a crucial thing. Day / night temp difference maybe?

[@kevinpoe8137]

Camel spiders are quite strange creatures, apparently it can take up to a month or more for them to molt, with them laying on their backs with their legs in the air the entire time

[@katyann4198]

I'm sorry Kat :( both of my camel spiders died within a 2 month period...one only lived a week after I got it. Wish we could find a way to keep them in captivity where they thrive!

[@thedreamman4432]

The die for the condition of temperature they need the termic escursion of the desert is easy to maintain the high temperature but no one thinks of fast drop of temperature

[@markdillon7234]

Watched one chase my buddy around for a couple min. It was super funny and creepy at the same time! They're cool looking especially the black one but I hope I never see another one in the wild.

[@lotteemil7807]

Actually camel spiders take two ore more weeks to molt .. so most keepers think their spider is dead when it’s actually just molting

[@Orqqid_]

Rip so sorry for your loss ! Yesterday I lost my Jumping spider (Hyllus Diardi) Roger. :( 😞

[@bowkatiewow]

Those cobweb castles are so cool. What a fantastic idea

[@Aprilann871]

Best tarantula and spider jumping tuber ever

[@ossiemac]

They look like a cross between a spider a scorpion and an ant 😳

[@arupian666]

Aw, that's too bad, Kat,,, but at least you preserved her memory and shared at least a little time with her

[@nikkic0509]

I’m so sorry, I really hate that. happened. I’m glad I got to see both of the though.

[@MOONOVERMIAMI]

Hello great video information sorry for your loss Kat

[@ChantalsCritters]

Sorry for your loss

[@edgufler1122]

Enjoyed the video Kat, thank you for sharing it with us.

[@angelamayes8118]

Oh I forgot to mention I love love love the castle your puffer fish tank that is just so awesome it makes me want to shrink and climb in, Blaaaaahhhhhh LMAO

[@richardbriansmith8562]

I am sorry to hear that you lost one of your cammel spiders I will be thinking of the cammel spider that you lost all the time the good memories of the lost cammel spider will always remain I hope that you have more good luck soon tarantula kat.

[@SherioCheers]

I've never been able to get a camel spier to thrive. I've only ever taken the ones that come off the shipping crates from Arizona though. They're invasive here and won't live in the wild in our climate.

[@ac9356]

I think it’s cuz they need more space then what they put them in ppl should try to put them in a 4ft x 4ft enclosure

[@TARANTULAVIBES]

camel spiders arent able to live that long in captivity because they are little Travelers. In the wild camelspiders dont realy have a permanent hide, they arent able to run so fast for no reason. they are really active in captivity because they usually walk around many miles in desserted areas, to either find prey or find a rock to hide under while the hot sun is shining on them.

[@thetarantulahouse6243]

I used to live in the Middle East and you would see them out at night a lot, and would dart at you when the lights came on to stay in the showdowns as they don’t like light. As you could imagine this would freak people out 🙈. Just a fun fact for you, sorry for your loss me and my daughter love your vids 🥰, and we started our own channel (just for fun) I’m no way near as good as you and I have full respect for what you do and the time it takes for one vid alone 😅 ✊🏼

[@Smokeygoat7]

That British voice 😂😂😂 got it on top form. Much love from the U.K 🕷️🐈

[@mikelynzufelt5497]

I'm so sorry for your loss. Although trying to get cope being arachnophobic, I love your videos. I'm a chai and her babies and Wednesday fan. R.I.P Goth Camel Spider.

[@marjorieinverts]

Ok the cobweb castle is AMAZING. This guy should make some good money off of these! How cool!

[@JRL_0795_nyz]

I had a rose hair that died on November. It was a male, and at the time of death it had already grown it's hooks. But it was refusing food and only drank water, it was a sling in April 2018 meaning it lived about 2 years. I always heard that males live around 5 years so I'm worried if I did something wrong or if it was completely natural

[@ColinTimmins]

Kid: "Oh I'm scare of spiders..." Camel Spider: "Come here kid..." lol =]

[@krempel_und_klumpad]

oh noooo! i´m honestly beyond terrified of spiders, and i think camel spiders are the worst, but it´s still sad that she didn´t make it. i find it cool that some people, like you, love these creatures so much and do so much for them, even though i could never. but i enjoy your videos about them. after all, they just wand to live and be left alone, like basically all of us.

[@holychlorine9821]

I'm am sorry for your loss.

[@tamijocampbell4629]

As far as what's "normal" for camel spiders or ANY pet honestly , even tho there are general things they all do, each one is different . I know people that have tarantulas that should burrow and dont. We get weird ones now and again

[@Martyallthumbs]

Love the channel kat 👍🇬🇧🕸🕸

[@chelseabrennan2505]

Your so silly 🙃 I absolutely love watching your videos keep up the amazing work 🥳♥️

[@blank3097]

Condolences on the passing of your monster✊

[@haileyrodenbeck5460]

Been checking KZbin everyday lol 🖤 sorry for your loss 😢

[@tarantulakat]

[@kentvikman1086]

Oh noo! Sorry for your loss.

[@mranimal8328]

I got a spider camel also from Tom I always wanted one but the first video of you showing them made me want one even more I’m sorry for goth camel mine is being weird also not eating and laying on it’s side

[@tamijocampbell4629]

Some creatures we just arent meant to make captive. For whatever reason it is, some do better in the wild running on instinct. Humans dont do well in captivity either.

[@justinklein3510]

Hey kat!:) They can do well in cap U really need to get a special Setup with high temperature and really cold in the night

[@mypetsandme9473]

Awww sorry for your loss . Very interesting creatures. Can you keep them on sand ?

[@Lost_in_paradise17]

Although it’s sad it’s good info for people who might want to keep them as maybe they’re just one of those things that don’t do well in captivity period. It’s all trial and error and you did we,k with the time you had

[@Aethuviel]

I don't know anything about them, but a quick search says their natural lifespan is one, max two years. So, like house spiders, or mice. If they lived one year in captivity, and ten in the wild, that would be bad, but if they only live one year anyway, is there an issue?

[@btnhstillfire]

These need more space…Thats one of the issues right off the bat. They are extremely fast so they need room to be able to move around. If not they just sit there rotting away.

[@steverick5281]

Actually many years ago on the old arachnoboards site there was a lot of useful information on captive husbandry and they can live for years. From memory they do best when kept in a very small cage and if allowed to burrow, and hibernate over winter, also to not feed very much. If they have alot of room they can run themselves to death, and feeding them well increases their metabolism and kills them faster. People were keeping them in containers barely bigger than what a lot of Asian scorpion keepers keep their scorps in. I'm sure some species are more difficult than others but I hope something in this can be useful to you in the future or to help further your research.

[@mapl3sh4de14]

Is this link not available anymore?

[@asc.445]

Used to see the beasties in the Jordanian desert. 1 chased me once 😲.

[@Nefariousbig]

When they burrow in the tissue paper like that, are they eating any of it or is it just straight digging? I'm curious if their usual habitat being sand means they don't know how to handle the nature of the material and end up consuming some/otherwise having functions obstructed by the paper.

[@Rat2rrj]

Im trying to raise two of those southern house spiders myself! Still haven't caught them but I feed them periodically

[@gracio1231]

I’m so sorry about the SPider may it Rest In Peace my condolences to you babe prayers

[@nashuaandrews4410]

Do camel spiders live in sand?

[@Phoenixhunter157]

I must get one of those castles!😍😍😍😍😍😍😍I need it!

[@lizbee5756]

I tried looking it up but there's not very much research on this camel spiders in captivity. Do you think they'd benefit from a UV light or ceramic heaters?

[@tarantulakat]

Maybe, but as “sun spiders” I think they need the ☀️ mostly

[@romanyfaye79]

Are camel spiders the ones that scream?

[@MADARAUCHIHA-eo3tj]

I was just feeding my fish a stupid spider crawled up me even though I love watching spider videos but it doesn’t help me in real anyway when it crawled up me it scared the shit out of me I tripped and I broke my arm

[@jgscatsandthings5208]

Such a shame the Goth Camel Spider died, but at least you have good memories of when it was around.

[@necromancer-x]

Aw, sorry it didn't work out

[@imsolittt8595]

Where do you get camel sliders ?

[@alicemilton8756]

I need “angry to be alive” on some merch

[@lynnettecook6973]

Are they nocturnal or diurnal? If they are diurnal, they may need more heat and UVB? Just a thought.