RIP, Toyota just killed the V8 LandCruiser: Everything you need to know!

[@aquaticwombat4570]

thanks Greenies! ill never get rid of my V8 2016 pre DPF troopy

[@ligmaballs4874]

I wish I could buy a single cab 79 V8 manual pre-DPF... brand new. What a dream.

[@TotallyWildRangerCharlie]

greenies aren't in power, nor have they ever been

[@-aid4084]

I think we shouldn't be angry at toyota for getting rid of the v8s, because they're being taxed over by emissions and safety standards.

[@MobyTheMerpup1852]

@@-aid4084They could’ve done a VR8 after contacting BMW but no. And not 60L like in Cruella’s car but just maybe 6L or 6.2L instead.

[@brownhairydog6472]

Stop being sensible..let the angry public vent about prices and lack of function and yeah yeah yeah.

[@MrJanvercauteren]

No at albanese, its the new rules on emission averages

[@-aid4084]

@@brownhairydog6472 don't get me started on all the tiny expensive gadgets in new cars that do one thing and cost hundreds of dollars each... or maybe do. Like I get you need better each time but there's a point where most of the little gadgets are just to bump up the price, and aren't really useful.

[@MrNeroDiablo]

Of course the fact that that motor single handedly burnt Toyota's reputation for reliability to the ground in industry is completely unrelated.

[@bens5186]

In regards to 5 star rating… ANCAP lost the plot some time back. They now just keep shifting the goal posts to remain employed… If only we tracked the stats on how many people had accidents while trying to turn off yet another annoying alarm in the car.. ABS, Seatbelts, Airbags all good. A car that fights you and tries to steer you into crap or beeps at you for checking the mirrors too often in its opinion… F right off.

[@bens5186]

I was going to buy the new triton till i drove it and realised how much crap was in it that couldnt just be left switched off. Honestly I would pay 5-10k extra to have the “i know how to drive pack” which permanently disables anything you don’t want.

[@tim9241]

This would be fine if the 70 series wagon/dual cab/troopy even had side airbags. Highly dangerous and cheap approach by Toyota. Single cab gets them but the others don’t…

[@danieltynan5301]

They are insanely corrupt..... They are no longer making any sense.....

[@daweigo6851]

WelL SAID

[@njoyridin3928]

Yep they only build cars for people who shouldn't be driving them.

[@spiesonmars]

Resale value of V8's just jumped 50%...

[@grimreaper6112]

If your a idiot.

[@TheJKreef]

Why?

[@benglasby8014]

They’re already stupidly priced

[@rd6416]

​@hdfxdcsuperglide3016 If most peeps really wanted one Toyota would still be selling them.

[@DarrenSmith-x6h]

Only fools will pay over 100k for these v8's ,owners are dreaming thinking they will profit

[@HeinrichSchultz-ql5qv]

There's no mention of the longevity of the 4 cylinder vs the V8. Common sense says the 4 cylinder has to work so much harder than the V8.

[@bitpri05]

Unfortunately longevity is rarely a factor for decision making in these matters. Adblue, dpf, catalytic converters, pcv recirc, phe preheaters………………. Almost are never impactful in a positive way for longevity

[@KingOfBanks]

The 2.8 has been in the Hilux and Prado for about a decade.

[@jayd3931]

That 4 cylinder has been around for ages in the Hilux and Prado, plenty getting high mileage. There is more to the picture than just the amount of cylinders. The V8 is ancient.

[@ExpatonTwoWheels]

The 2.8 was designed to have a higher performance envelope than the V8 and will last just fine. You're angry because you're getting more performance with less noise? You wanted the V8 because it's a V8?

[@wetlettuce8215]

yeah they just dont wanna admit it, they wanted the v8 due to aesthetics and the sound of having the v8 grunty roar. effin idiots tbh ​@@ExpatonTwoWheels

[@realaussiemale567]

They should bring back the turbo 6 cylinder, would be a definite winner with customers.

[@frantickle]

Why the 4 cylinder out performs the V8 is basically because the V8 comes from factory heavily under tuned and the 4 cylinder comes “over turned”.

[@aidengillzy]

It’s not overtuned. They can be further tuned safety with minimal issues. Many videos and articles on this.

[@4WDNightTracker]

Ronny Dahl's tuned V8 was outperformed in a towing test by the 4 Cyl.

[@frantickle]

@@4WDNightTracker listen to what you’re saying! It doesn’t make sense

[@stewatparkpark2933]

@@4WDNightTracker Ronny runs a business - think about it .

[@4WDNightTracker]

@@frantickle Maybe it doesn't make sense to someone who says the 4 cylinder comes "over turned"???

[@davideyers9405]

Changed to Hilux's from 70s 10 yrs ago and the current 2.8 tows my 3t boat, tandem trailer with tractor with ease. Nicer ride, more comfort and more tech for half the price. I won't be going back to a 70 series in a hurry.

[@Bigsoot7393]

Oh god no! Please don't bring common sense and real world testing into this! The armchair engineers don't want to hear this!

[@stephenbarrett7064]

Hilux that a few of my friends have reckon there heap of shit

[@Bigsoot7393]

@@stephenbarrett7064 why do they say that?

[@stephenbarrett7064]

They are builders and they won’t toe there trailers they have gone to ford

[@tcmx712]

​@stephenbarrett7064 obviously inner city builders then if they got the ranger, they might be faster but they don't get past 100,000kms without issue. I live in Broome and was talking to the local tow truck driver the other day and he's had to take 7 new rangers down to Port Hedland in the last month to be fixed

[@oldaussiecoot]

Long Live The V8! People still want them. My LC 200 series just jumped in price. Thanks Toyota, Thanks Aussie government 👍

[@glenod]

same here.

[@mitchell5064]

most overhyped engine of the 21st century.

[@oldaussiecoot]

@@mitchell5064 who cares tow my van beautifully and has heaps of power. It’s not a race car.😂

[@CharlesLeyton-eh5ex]

I have a Hilux gr sport with the slightly modified 2.8 lt but that 4.5 lt v8 is a brilliant motor. It will go done as a classic.

[@paralna7755]

@@oldaussiecoot One of the worst engineered engines sold in Australia lol All the power of a 4 cylinder well not quite but with the fuel economy of a v12 best of both worlds

[@Darkrif1957]

why dont they offer the v6 tubo as in the 300 series ?

[@cjaussienerfer8169]

I was thinking the exact same thing, however I’m guessing the reasons would be the same on that front too. If it ain’t 3.0L or less it’s gonna be over the emissions regulations and therefore fined. The only way to get around that is exactly like how the American manufacturers do it, reclass the vehicle as a light truck. But I’m sure the Australian government will close that loophole as well in a form or another.

[@MobyTheMerpup1852]

Looks like we’ll just have to LS V8 swap it.

[@mvnorsel6354]

I was waiting for this comment.😅

[@paralna7755]

Here comes 20litres a hundred lol

[@deezy9622]

@@paralna7755 that’s standard 70 series v8 anyway.

[@MelodyMan69]

Opportunity for RAM to take that market share. Toyota will regret it ! They fckd up.

[@axe2001]

NVES will force RAM to pull out of Australia or charge even more. Price wise the 70 and RAM won't be comparable in 2025 and beyond

[@andretorben9995]

RAMS should be banned. They are not environmentally acceptable. We all need to work towards a carbon neutral green future.

[@virangaabeywickrema3901]

Ummm, Ram has gotten rid of the Hemi V8 too, it's now an inline 6 in the states and no doubt that means ours will switch over soon as well

[@kennethprocak5176]

The V8 ended when they stopped taking orders for it. The current deliveries will have V8 from remaining stored parts to assemble the motors.

[@TerryCassar]

So the full back story is that this V8 is running at 40% power from factory! A safe tune re map will take it to 70% and double the torque from around 340nm to 620nm at the wheels and and increase of over 100kw! Different vehicle that blows the 2.8 out of the water!

[@StuartKarlson-qn8pj]

You must love giving big oil companies your money

[@lukesmith132]

Shush up

[@Bigsoot7393]

@@TerryCassar give the 2.8 a tune and it will outdo those numbers?

[@TerryCassar]

@@Bigsoot7393 there’s no replacement for displacement

[@Bigsoot7393]

@@TerryCassar except boost, fuel, lighter components, less friction, less accessories.... Could go on. Why's a 1.8 litre Honda engine beat a Holden 308?

[@karlgeyer6743]

Even before the V8, land cruisers always had the bigger engine then the Hilux. I think having an engine from a hilux in a land cruiser will just tank the sales. Toyota needs to make and Iline 6 or V6 if they want the cruiser to stay

[@fathomtheundertaker4356]

It's all about the good vibes when driving your rig, I'd rather have that deep rummbling sound from a V8 compared to a little 4 banger that sounds like my grandmothers disability scooter

[@syrus1233]

Screw that I want my fuel efficiency

[@rd6416]

​@@syrus1233me too. I'm comfortable with my dick size, I don't need V8 to feel "comfortable" 😂

[@4WDNightTracker]

At last, some honesty about the real reason the V8 is preferred by many. Similar to why Harley Davidsons have a huge fan base.

[@swatchdiamond6202]

😂

[@jerrymyahzcat]

@@4WDNightTrackerYeah the terrible noise and sin. They sound ridiculous. And Harley’s are noisy and obnoxious too - can’t stand the loudness they make. The quieter the engine the better.

[@joeclarke7877]

For me a V8 , I will never change .

[@poikazal]

Putting a hilux engine into a land cruiser is an insult

[@michaelnugara1]

Only one donk will deliver 1 Million ks and it's not the 4cylinder

[@Bigsoot7393]

@@michaelnugara1 yeah the old 6 cylinders, a V8 sucking dust from new won't get that

[@15harry1561]

I’m sure my V8 will still be going strong long after the 4. cylinder has given up .

[@Car-crazy]

I have a 2023 model Prado 2.8 diesel. It pulls like a tank. Here in Japan where I live is nothing but mountains. It will cruise at any speed you put it at regardless of the steepness of the hills and stick at the speed. Put your foot down and it quickly builds up speed even on very long, steep motorway roads. Cant see why anyone would want a V8 when the 2.8 4 pot is way superior in every way. I think most want them as status just to say they have a big V8.

[@abshassan]

Ronny Dahl has a lengthy video on the 4 banger vs the v8, very interesting watch. In short he sold his tuned v8 because he loved the 4 cylinder a lot more.

[@aussiecue]

Maybe he is a shill. Just part of the cross over process,,,

[@turbostyler]

He is a heathen

[@martinarthur8928]

And soon he will wish he hadnt sold it

[@sheep3854]

@@martinarthur8928 doubtful, the 2.8 is better in every respect, has been around a while. Only thing you're getting from the V8, or a better sound and more fuel consumption. Most folk using their 4wd for anything other than being an influenza dont give a shit.

[@gregrice-c4u]

I bet you still believe in the tooth fairy as well .. Toyota marketing loves people like you who just hang off everything they tell you .. Ronny Dahl needs to get off Toyota’s knob ..

[@raulbustamante8337]

Here in Venezuela, there are almost non v8 lc70. They're always petrol inline 6 for the older models and the 1gr-fe v6 for the newer ones. So, for me it's good to know that the 2.8 diesel is now paired with a revised manual, I personally think it's the best iteration

[@finchtoob]

For me, a 4 cylinder auto (troopy) would be the only 70 series I'd be interested in. The 5 speed manual is shit, and the V8 is highly overrated. The thing that irks me is that Toyota is still selling these with the 100mm narrower rear axle, which really just shows contempt for their customers.

[@JeremyClark-k6b]

You can't drive stick

[@brettcarlton6997]

Agreed with the axel

[@bens5186]

Crossing fingers for the full size yank utes with a big V8 cummins to come out as a RHD from the factory so we dont have to pay double. Nothing beats a heavy vehicle with a big diesel for towing heavy things. Not all of us live in the city and want to drive a f’ing EV.

[@rich7447]

The Cummins in the Ram is a 6.7L inline 6. To get a V8 diesel in a US pickup you have to go to GM (6.6L) or Ford (6.7L). The only Cummins V8in a pickup was the 5L in the Nissan Titan and it was not very successful.

[@paralna7755]

You would understand why the price is so high if you seen how much they disemble and rebuild to right hand drive Twicw the price Twice the building

[@ryanleeds1973]

Conversion adds 40kish

[@bens5186]

@@paralna7755 i understand. i just dont want to pay for “rework”. one day hopefully… that will also open the door to lower spec variants.

[@bucephulus4600]

Thanks Chris Bowen.

[@andyg9991]

Finally someone in the comments that actually understands what happened

[@andyg9991]

@@RickyBobbyNumber1 Too many idiots drinking the kool-aid is the first problem. Second is that many are flat out lying about what the standards are, what they are trying to achieve, and the actual outcome of adopting this standard

[@bucephulus4600]

@@RickyBobbyNumber1 Oh, it's noticed, don't worry. It's just our media are a pack of pansies and are owned by the same companies that own the green companies and also own our politicians. It's just Aussies are so laid back we're sound asleep and too lazy to do anything about it.

[@aaronharman9110]

I don’t know why they don’t put the 300 series 6 cylinder in it. Although it wouldn’t be a Toyota if it wasn’t underpowered.

[@hipetwa]

What's weird, they refused to bring the 4.2 straight diesel thats found in Africa

[@YZJB]

Pretty sure the 1HZ doesn’t meet Euro 4 let alone Euro 6 which is soon to be required in Australia

[@2fupg187]

We here in PNG 🇵🇬 still use the old 1HZ here but we hope if TOYOTA could slap a twin turbo on the 1HZ for PNG, Africa and the Middle East.

[@daylinriffel125]

Yeah the old 1hz is still in production since 1990 but toyota needs to upgrade it power wise it can do everything the v8 does but slowly

[@nevininni2709]

That engine was dropped in Australia back in December 2006 along with many other vehicles that didn't meet Australian emission standards including Nissan Patrol 4.2L diesel, Ford Courier/Mazda Bravo 2.6L petrol, Nissan Navara 2.4L petrol plus a few more. The Australia government must think we live in a bubble, because the rest of the world isn't interested like China, India, Africa etc. That 1HZ 4.2L Landcruiser is still available brand new in many countries around the world. Its funny how the big mining companies can import brand new left hand drive 4.2L 6 cylinder Landcruiser utes to use on their mine sites but can't use them on public roads.

[@chrisgregory4796]

Went to a salvage auction in perth before Covid and they were selling a batch of 1HZ underground miners about 5-7 years old. Looked like our V8 model but were straight 6. All LHD, all rusted out, completely stuffed. Thought they may have been non road legal Africa spec but that was just a guess. Not sure how the miner got their hands on these “unavailable” utes.

[@deangrima]

Who is getting sick of the greenies telling us what we are allowed to buy?

[@miguelfelipegomezdasilva2997]

Toyota motor corporation should release its Manual Version for lovers of manual transmission with the 2.8 4-cylinder engine with 6-speed manual transmission like the Hilux and also improve a new engine like 6 cylinders in line like the 1HZ 4.2, do it with the same technology of the 2.8 1GD in 6 Cylinders in line Turbo Diesel with more horses and Torque and Toyota has to send that information 🛻🦾🇯🇵 Greetings from Venezuela 🇻🇪🇦🇺

[@Measuretwicelad]

Unlikely, sorry pal, there’s just not enough appetite amongst buyers to make it viable. Take a look at the old school prime mover manufacturers who only supplied an 18 speed road ranger transmission…Kenworth, Mack, Western Star etc, all changing over to automated transmission systems because transmission reliability has improved and contractors/fleet buyers see the benefits ~ same for Toyota.

[@rapisidro4821]

I heard from friends that have a 200 LC and 300 LC that they prefer the 200 LC because the V8 just feels better, more meaty.

[@AnarchistBogan]

It’s slower, and heavier on juice. 300 outperforms it in every way.

[@CaleWalton]

I have both and the 300 is miles better in every way except the sound.

[@manwell235]

They probably think the 200 feels better bcos of the V8 placebo effect. In reality, the 300 feels much more athletic

[@mitchell5064]

you have heard wrong. the 300 is a much better car to drive

[@leylandroberts4820]

Paid 88k new for my 2013 lc200 has done 180k and still worth 88k! It's not getting sold anytime soon. Power torque comfort and sounds great!

[@johnnykkkk]

70 Series V8 is a reliability Legend and they were a blank canvas for die-hards to do whatever mods you wanted. Long Live the Legend

[@Seiskid]

So Albo killed the V8. Ridiculous. The old engines ran for decades. The new engine will be another high performance pony that wears out after 150k.

[@gruffystrawbry2715]

Toyota planned to kill it long before Aalborg got into government

[@mitchell5064]

the engines being phased out globally for tigher emissions. def isnt albos fault as much as we hate him

[@peterassel562]

I've got a V8 and two things have killed the situation - the new one looks horrible versus the more modern one with the ultra cool bonnet scoop, and the BIGGEST reason I bought one was the V8! Will not be selling anytime soon!

[@kje1958]

Is there something I am missing.....why not a V6 or an inline 6.......1HDFTE TURBO MAYBE BEST TOYOTA MOTOR EVER MADE.??? something along them line's.

[@willd0g]

You’d want the engine(s) platforms to have a long life to amortise the cost of r’nd, production retooling etc. ; That’s not really an option if you want the engine to be capable of remaining compliant with higher emissions standards and tighter controls each year

[@jeofflemon5561]

I agree one of the best motor ever been built 👌

[@gregrice-c4u]

@@kje1958 100% spot on … 1HDFTE most definitely the best engine Toyota has ever had in their cruisers .. performed way better than the V8 and way more reliable … let’s not even talk about a four cylinder in a cruiser , Toyota has been going soft for years from what made them an icon for toughness and reliability ..

[@michaelcameron8904]

I know it’s early days but I’m interested in durability. I have a 200 GX wagon. I find it hard to sell to change over to new 300 but again worried about durability. Time will tell. Like your show. Bravo from Victoria Australia

[@shanejfm]

What's your opinion on the 4-cyl being loaded up with 1000kg of gear for a lap of Australia along with the Simpson and Canning SR? Thanks. Regards Shane

[@lukekerr7528]

The 4cyl manual would be a bloody great thing, but I reckon they should have a bigger engine option as well, say the v6td from the 300, but manual only

[@Tedkelvin]

They failed to build a modular 6cyl version of the 2.8L...which could have effectively been a 4.2L. now the only serious trucks are American...Ranger,.Gladiator,Ram,Chevy etc.

[@virangaabeywickrema3901]

Since when is the Ranger American, or serious? Its a midsize truck made in Thailand, and the Gladiator is also a mid sized truck with barely any towing capacity.

[@marklaurendet1861]

I think it is sad not only about the V8, but probably the end of truly robust simpler / reliable 4WD's safety and emissions aside, I do not like the way modern cars are electrically controlled, they are not as hardy as in the past and cant be repaired without the aid of computers.

[@-aid4084]

Going are the days of driving out into the wilderness with nothing but supplies to last the trip. Never done it since I'm o ly 20 but I'd like to someday. It's just really expensive for the moment.

[@paultucker4923]

@@-aid4084 buy an old Land Rover. Countless people did it 1950s-1980s. Just don't expect aircon, heated seats and cupholders.

[@-aid4084]

@@paultucker4923 maybe

[@willd0g]

Call roadside assistance 😂

[@mitchell5064]

the v8 isnt a robust simple engine though

[@akampitsyahopatent1655]

It's a pity to have to lose the V8 it was such perfect combination with the manual. It's a pleasure to know however that there is a manual version for the four cylinder, all hope is not lost for the true driving experience. Long live the 70 series Land Cruiser.

[@Louie2309]

Land Cruisers are for farmers. Just buy an American pickup and buy yourself a superior vehicle in terms of power, fuel economy, towing capacity, cab space, appearance and coolness.

[@068447]

I feel like if you have enough money to buy one you just get the track sorted ya self anyway , and yeah a basic tune in the v8 that I have is really Fucken cool , I had a Prado and a hilux , they were sick , but yeah this thing is a pissa , I do like v8s though , I grew up in em maybe that’s why . I also believe it will see me out if I look after it . Just like the 60 series we have . 420000 on it and still goes, and will probably see us through our car driving time . We are in our 40s , never in my life did I think I’d have a Land Cruiser ? They really do make you happy 😃

[@726brendan]

I’ve got the 5.7L iforce V8 in my Toyota . Best motor in anything I’ve ever had, and I’ll keep it till it dies or I do!

[@Phil_McAvity]

Had my 76 series cruiser on order for 33 months, it docked today and I wouldn’t see it for another two weeks apparently. Toyota are an absolute joke!

[@RoamingRooma]

I got my V8 Troopy in dock too

[@HotPlates.]

That’s a looong wait. On the bright side, at least they’re delivering it. VW canceled my Crafter order completely after 2 years of waiting.

[@stewatparkpark2933]

But it is very low Kms .

[@willd0g]

@@HotPlates.i’ve sworn off VW. I love the way their cars drive but when it comes to VW Australia… never again.

[@HotPlates.]

@@willd0g you and me both mate. The way they have treated us through this entire ordeal has been disgusting. I’ve had VW’s for the past 12 years. They’ve fully lost me over this. Ended up putting a deposit on a sprinter van a year ago, and thankfully it arrives in September.

[@TheSukhbirgrewal]

Glad i got my v8 Troopy last year after a gruelling wait of 3 years.

[@davidbarnsley8486]

Just a side note Up on the mines because they don’t meet safety standards they are only allowed on mine roads And are very restricted to we’re and who can dive them I suspect they are waiting for the tundra to arrive and all landcruiser utes will be removed from the mines because of safety issues

[@planetdisco4821]

I just picked up a 2023 v8 4 door Ute two weeks ago, this amazes me that I now own a car that’s going up in value!

[@nickos471]

There is no way people are going to settle for a 4 cylinder. Might as well buy the hilux. I hope Toyota pay for it. How is GM and Dodge bringing in V8s without getting fined

[@gregrice-c4u]

It’s high time Toyota developed a new engine instead of its old and tired 2.8l .. something like a 4litre 4 cylinder married to an auto transmission as standard , to continue doing what all car companies are doing in reducing cubic inch and artificially enhancing with twin turbo’s for example is a joke , they will not last working at peak consistently , a lot like a body builder on steroids and we know what happens there in the end with artificial performance .. why make a car that will last for 400000 k’s when you can sell two that last for the same period .. makes way better business sense $$$$$$

[@jb243wp]

Toyota die hards will pay what ever it will cost to get one. Unfortunately, my old factory V8 79 couldn't pull skin off a custard, so I'm not a fan of the 79 series. I ended up purchasing a LC200 instead, which I am a fan of.. I'll be keeping my LC200 for a bit longer, now they are a good tow vehicle.. Easy pulls my over-weight 3.8t boat up some pretty steep inclines no probs 👍

[@Malama1492]

I’m not paying $70k plus for a 4 cyclinder Toyota 70’s Series, that’s just ridiculous may as well just get the Hilux (shame I can’t find a second hand V6 Hilux version where I am those engines were so good)

[@antiwoke884]

Hey guys we got you a V8 Manuel Only problem is we can only provide you 4 pistons

[@simtrucking]

V8 is still available in GXL model but rest is cut off on my side

[@grumpy-g5s]

I believe they told us this last year , it’s all about the turbo 4cylinder stuff now

[@johnalees99]

I was working in a Toyota dealership when the V8 LC70 came out, and remember thinking what a massive disappointment it was compared to the 6 cylinder diesel it replaced. But unless you needed a work ute that was more rugged and correspondingly more agricultural feeling than a Hilux, I really didn't see the point in them. The LC100/105 was a far more comfortable ride.

[@JimmyShields-z2h]

I know few fellas who drop LC for petrol 5.7lt V8 RAMS because long waiting list, i believe some buyers are tired of old design n what US trucks offer, i dont why Toyota didn't release new Tundra here but must know V6 engine trouble?

[@robertchapman6795]

I’ve just started a business doing LS and Barra swaps for Landcruisers! 😉

[@seventrumpets6465]

Toyota making more stupid decisions, sales of the tundra have tanked in America since they deleted the v8. Not building what the public wants , reliability going out the window...rip Toyota.

[@davidjohns292]

I think the writing was on the wall for the V8. I'm disappointed they didn't use the V6 out of the 300. They could have detuned it a bit just like the V8.

[@jabirpc281]

This means we can’t get a v8 engine in couple years if i want to replace my engine when it dies. 500kms on my 2016 vx 200

[@tx1hawkins357]

I own the Toy/HiLux SW4 in Brazil with the 2.8 Diesel engine and it has been rock solid. Strong low end torque . It handles the gross weight the truck is rated for easily. Without mods.

[@scott8238]

V8 is the king don't let the govt tell you otherwise

[@davidilott1319]

At least we still have the land cruiser , unlike our commodore and falcons

[@itsjustaname777]

It's annoying, in the UK they list them as "4.5 D-4D v8" but d-4d's aren't v8's and both the v8 diesel and the 4 cylinder diesel are 4.5's...

[@luisdelaroca6314]

70 series with v8 is a cool retro vehicle, without V8 is a over prices old truck

[@PaulEglinton]

Get rid of the govt, and let the market decide what it wants

[@GetOutGO]

If it was truly about emissions, why not use the F33A engine (3.3 V6 TD) and remove one turbo? We had the 2.8 (with a camper on the back) for a weekend recently, got 4.3 km/l driving conservatively 🤡. Yes, on paper it has more power but bottom line is it’s a smaller engine working so much harder to do the same job. I certainly don’t expect to see many 1m km 70 series with this engine anymore…

[@andrewkrieg3135]

Will be interesting to see how the 4 Cylinder's will handle bouncing off the limiter in low range all day in undergroind mining. Although the V8s are outclassed on paper by the 4 cylinder, they sure can cop some abuse.

[@seanh3292]

Well the mine I work at the v8's are speed limited to 30km/h in 5th gear which is about 1250 rpm and 2500 rpm in 3rd. Doesn't work too well when the dpf clogs up once a shift so u have to knock it back to second and fang it up the decline at 3750 rpm for 5 to 10 min lol. Honestly I was looking forward to the 4 cyl because of the auto transmission tho.

[@brownhairydog6472]

Hiluxes been doing it for years with that motor

[@ChrisHolden-rv2fh]

the HiLux has proven the motor to be perfectly capable enough for any application. What's your point?

[@tosgem]

​@@ChrisHolden-rv2fhactually Hiluxes and Prado's blow up regularly after 300,000km of towing around Aus. The V8 definitely lasts longer

[@paralna7755]

@@tosgem crap that v8 has been blowing up for years

[@ExpatonTwoWheels]

For the off-road touring guys, it's a shame there won't be many options with solid axles soon. I guess you'll just have to import more Jeeps. That'll sting.

[@ashleyhoff7561]

Where else in the world (excluding the US) can you buy a V8 Cruiser? Why do people think its the Australian Government forcing this, when in every other market it is being discontinued as well?

[@heathwak3030]

Where did you read that? Will they also discontinue the 1hz 6 cylinder in countries where it is still produced aswell?

[@seekhearts]

many reasons why its happened, ADR rules in 2018 by the government, homologating the manufacturing to thailand soon (i think it'll happen since thailand is such a big market for trucks/utes as well), plus the biggest buyers are fleets for mining, ag and defence/military especially in the middle east/africa, so being able to offer the trucks with engines they are continuing to develop and can streamline and boost deliveries

[@lightning9279]

Sadly, Toyota's 4 bangers engines were not originally made for the high compressions that turbos make. There goes reliability.

[@virangaabeywickrema3901]

Nonsense, where do people make this stuff up? The 4 cylinder turbo diesel was a ground up design made to be a turbo.

[@lightning9279]

@@virangaabeywickrema3901 I was speaking about gas not diesel. Here in the states we do not have diesel Toyota engines. You are correct about diesels.

[@ianscorey5293]

I’ll just keep trucking around in my Range Rover 3.5 V8 4 speed manual!!! Which was built in 1971….. hence it’s a suffix A Range Rover… a very early version!!! Drives like silk…… but needs ten minutes to go from second to third!!! But can do 100mph!!!!! Regards Ian 👨‍🎤🇳🇿👍🍸🍸

[@roccomazzone9723]

Why don't they put the LC300 in the 70. Probably going to axe that too.

[@jb243wp]

That would not be economically viable for Toyota to do that.. They will run the piss ant 4cly engine in it for around 4 years. THEN, they'll put the v6 in and suck all the money out of the Toyota die hards fans all over again when they trade their shitty 4cyl 79's in. 😅😂😅😂😅

[@realaussiemale567]

Toyota need to upgrade the interior specifications of the new Land Cruisers, they’re still quite ‘Farm truck’

[@andretorben9995]

Given the huge price tag what you actually get is pathetic.

[@Ted...youtubee]

Found out why some cars are overpriced. If on a major carsale website they show the average price of advertised cars, one super high price car raises the average price. It's gaming the system.

[@danielhutton3858]

As if these aren't expensive enough based on their existing heritage.... The used market will also be inflated most probably to grotesque levels. The Australian car market is absolutely bonkers.

[@Swoop142]

This information came out months ago at the time the current price for the 4 cylinder was listed at $120 thou, Toyota did say that the v8 will only remain in the single cab workmate Ute, as government and mining fleets still wanted this vehicle or has this suddenly changed, also no more information on the new land cruiser mini, using the same engine as the land cruiser 4 cylinder but a listing price of around $45 thou to compete with the jimny, as this is taking a bit chunk of the market Toyota finally don’t want to miss out on.

[@AlvaroKarmy]

Very disappointing news. Seems Toyota doesn’t want to stay away from the crowd of automakers that are building downsize engines, with the corresponding reliability issues. Same with the 2022 Tundra and 2024 Tacoma that are having heavy reliability issues

[@moorabinda]

First time on KZbin I’ve heard an acknowledgment of the torque tax of a manual gearbox. No ons else has said it, in their explanations of the performance benefit of the 4 cylinder model over the V8. Doesn’t make the difference but certainly contributes. Now I can rest… 👍🏽

[@RussellBushes619]

Why isn't Totota putting the v6 from the 300 series into the 79? Why have they gone straight to a 4 cylinder engine?

[@Perfect2ATee]

I’m still coming to terms with who would want an automatic! Imagine had Toyota invested the same development into the V8 as opposed to a 4cyl. It’d have 6 or 7 hundred NM of torque. The death of the V8 is unfortunately due to emissions regulations :(

[@HammerRocks]

I don't think anyone that has been following this is suprised by this announcement. The writing was already on the wall since the I4TD was released. It was just a matter of when.

[@HugoBoss-mi6fv]

The V8 70 is fairly reliable due to it been as close to NA as possible, I do like the Touque from just off idle but this is mostly due to a tiny turbo so there isn't much going on beyond about 2500rpm. You could possibly get it to out-perform the factory 2.8 but you would need to sink about 30k into it (New Turbo, Clutch, Gearbox, injectors, muffler etc) and then you have lost the reliability as realistically this engine is only designed to handle 12psi. As factory or lightly modded this is a fun engine that sounds good and lasts quite well, but if you actually compare the 2 engines back-to-back the 2.8 is vastly superior. the 2.8 GD been in hiluxes in some form for over 7 years and the small issues it did have seem to have been ironed out, I'm not expecting huge reliability issues but i will miss the soundtrack!

[@stanbruce8510]

Had my 79 with v8 for ten years, great engine love it

[@Rawkus919]

Who cares. The V8 is genuinely gutless unless you spend thousands. At which point, they blow up thousands of km short of a genuine lifespan.

[@adrianburnet]

Wait for v8 registration soon 🤔

[@anthonycrem7836]

100% they will try to tax them off the roads.

[@travelmates1]

A tuned V8's sound alone make me buy one! RIP V8 turbodiesel.

[@bvelite7321]

lol. I walked into a dealership a month ago, they had a cancelled order on a V8 Dual Cab. Negotiated on it. Took it a few days later 😂.

[@mindofown]

Friend had a 2022 manual V8 LC 79 that he let me drive, absolutely awful as a daily driver around town. Imagine it would be great in remote outback Australia though.

[@phil4977]

People will try and flip them like a lot have tried with the Falcon XR8 Sprint - they aren’t selling!! Try in 20 plus years fella’s

[@sogreb]

4 cylinder is not going to last as long specially going bush or pulling heavy trailers. Only reason it outperforms the V8 is due to it bing heavily tuned. 200K then have to buy a new one.

[@Adam-ox6zy]

A mob in Canada has the right idea. They are going to retro fit a diesel hybrid. Super efficient diesel genny for powering an all electric drive train and traction battery. Heaps of low down torque, plenty of high end power and easily pass Aussie emissions standards. Much better suited to huge Aussie distances with our piss poor EV charging infrastructure (or even electricity infrastructure tbh). These kinds are vehicles are bought by a lot of people who traverse the outback and sparsely serviced areas of this country so a beefy hybrid set up is a way to go.

[@archiekabooom2928]

I bought the land cruiser GR before it goes hybrid

[@michaelmiguelsanchez]

Surely it can’t be because of the emissions legislation, Bowen et al told us it would INCREASE choice…

[@Navigator-apex]

Blame Bowen for this!

[@ShaunBuckner]

Can’t see the Hilux upgraded motors pulling a 3 tonne caravan across Australia at 100kph. Most of the 4 cylinder utes can barely do 90kph. Can’t see them lasting to 300k either. I suppose time will tell.

[@targetoz5470]

With the used Cruiser v8 market sky rocketing think US v8’s the go, ta ta Toyota

[@CC-tk9xw]

Here in Asia 4c has been the power house for like the beginning of its creation. No v8 no v6 no v12 and it dominated all terrain. Only in America ppl would cry about it.