Road Test: 2017 Genesis G90 - Well-Done Luxury Car or Half-Baked Idea?

[@livewiyaraw-uncut]

I own a 2015 Genesis 3.8 with 52K on it. Except for 1 minor recall, this car is amazing. Drove all over the US on all road conditions and no issues at all. This is one RELIABLE and VERY SOLID car with all the Luxury available.

[@jlcii]

"Powertrain is not quite as refined as it's German competitors." Bet you it's waaay more reliable than they are! And that will likely be a key selling point.

[@azteck98]

why not my friend has the dsg on the golf 100k miles nothing but bulbs and oil changes .

[@cassiocm]

I disagree. In this class, buyers buy their luxury cars to keep it just for 3 to 4 years at most while they are still in the warranty. After that they are still reliable, but maintenance costs are higher. In return you get a much more refined ride and brand recognition, that Genesis just don't have. Maybe with time, but it will be at least 10 years for them to be on par with the Germans.

[@jlcii]

he's lucky. to be fair though, with Audis I've read a lot about problems with the electrical systems and transmissions.

[@azteck98]

2015 consumer reports reliability servey 1 Lexus 2 Toyota 3 Audi and thats not the only person i know with the same experience .i'm not saying anything negative about genesis i like the concept they put out but i have yet to meet someone who had a massively terrible vw product .

[@azteck98]

the trans does require a 300 dollar service every 40k miles so all that is probably just lack of maintenance .

[@brianbfree2328]

Being the owner of two Sonatas (11' SE Turbo and 12' Limited Turbo) and currently an Optima SX Turbo, I would definitely buy it if I were in the market for an executive full size sedan. I prefer to wait for the Korean version of the G80 to hit US shores. All three of the Hyundai products I've owned were reliable with the exception of a turbo malfunction of the '11. It was fixed under warranty and I had no more problems. Kia is now #1 in initial quality and Hyundai is #3. This is based off of problems per 100 vehicles sold. Mercedes didn't make the top 10 unfortunately. Hyundai is raising the bar as we speak.

[@videowsatcher]

I have driven the Gensis (previous badge for the G80) and been in or driven an XF (not the very latest one), a 5 series and E class (not the recently released one). The Gensis was cheaper, better equiped, much more roomier and and more comfortable (though 5 series and E classes do come with different suspension tunes and seat combinations). I think those who choose one of the Germans over the Gensis would in many cases have been badge snobs

[@emeyer6963]

I have a 13 Optima and have had no trouble with it.I will upgrade to the new bodystyle sometime in the next 3 months

[@CreepinCreeper145]

2:20 The hexagonal grill was actually started by Hyundai, which Audi copied. The taillights are more Equus than S-Class.

[@Katsina1]

can i just say DAMN that is the cheapest jump in price from a v6 to a v8 $1600. personally i love it. it looks fresh and masculine

[@HodsBroo]

toyota lexus fan here. I gotta give props to hyundai, they're in my opinion, doing a better job than even nissan/infiniti and honda/acura...if not very close to them.

[@emekaiheanacho6971]

definitely... they shit on Acura, and Infiniti seriously

[@1990Thunderbolt]

bmw fan here. the g11 7 series completely flopped! it'll never be par to par to the w222 s class! plus the genesis g90 looks awesome in first sight!

[@emekaiheanacho6971]

1990Thunderbolt dude don't even think of comparing this with the 7 series because I have driven both... No comparison

[@1990Thunderbolt]

Emeka Iheanacho i didn't say anything about comparing. not yet. but it definitely can't be compared to the s class. even the 7 series is no match for mercedes.

[@emekaiheanacho6971]

1990Thunderbolt I agree with you on that

[@MrClint1957]

After trading in my Equus for a G90 Ultimate, my wife & I could not be happier. We're "cruisers" and not "racers".

[@Д.Янчн]

Many rich people and those with high social status in Korea drives this car, along with Kia K900. It's highly regarded for its comfortability, silentness, and its luxurious space. Personally, I think it's whole lot better than Lexus LS, Cadillac CT6, or Audi A8.

[@kevina2052]

So 1,600 bucks more to get the V8 over the 3.3 turbo?! That's CHEAP! Especially for a 70k car! Who is buying this for fuel efficiency anyway?

[@vladsaghin7644]

I know right! It's amazing how inexpensive this car is, especially since it really doesn't have a huge options list like its german competitors.

[@maxxgraber]

why not review the 5.0? I want to see the difference...

[@samsonokoro5036]

I wonder if Motor week considers Audi as just another refreshed VW or Mercedes Maybach as just another S class. That's how absurd these stereotype classifications are.

[@noseefood1943]

student is now outdoing the teacher.

[@edgerdush77]

Does the genesis G90 have a right have drive car for this model

[@politicallyunreliable4985]

This was the most impressive vehicle (that we could get into) at the Chicago Auto show 2017. The interior was very roomy. All the "bits" were solidly in place and finished. The car felt very well done. COME ON CADILLAC!?!? Get back to work. I want to want an American car!

[@joedoe7839]

CT6 is your best bet.

[@ravipeiris4388]

Love the background music as it suits a very classy car, Ravi Peiris M.D.

[@mikerenfro4608]

In keeping with the cooking theme, it looks like to me Hyundai designers took turns adding their favorite ingredients. BMW interior, Mercedes back end, Audi front end, and a Chrysler logo to top it off. They ended up with a peanut butter and tuna fish sandwich in a pita pocket.

[@jlcii]

funny thing about that: look at BMW, Mercedes, and Audi: do any of them look like anything special? No, if anything they all look bland. To me, the G90 actually has more presents with its aggressive front end and broad Rolls-esque stance.

[@unknownunknowns]

Mike Renfro FYI, one of those Hyundai designers is German Peter Schreyer from Audi.

[@mikerenfro4608]

Stefan Unson that does explain a lot. I only wish for cars with some "personality". They all just seem to blend together to me. Maybe I am just old. ;-)

[@fitzyboy1390]

Hyundai could really be big competitors in the luxury market if they keep this up

[@MikeL-FL]

Sorry, don't think I could make the jump. As a former 750Li owner, this is missing something. Something important in the full size luxury class...... excess. Excess power, excess space. Even the V8 lacks the power of the Germans base V8s, and can't even come close to their upgraded ones. And the rear seat is puny compared to the LWB Germans as well, which are all we get in the US. Sure, it's cheaper, but if it's lacking, who cares? This car is desperately in need of a LWB version and a pair of turbos on the V8. Until it gets both, it's an Infiniti, Lexus and Acura competitor, not the BMW, Benz, Audi one they were trying to build.

[@unknownunknowns]

Mike L You're right they're just aiming and clobbering their cheaper rivals first before going after the more expensive ones.

[@unknownunknowns]

***** Then the G90 is the best of both worlds.

[@Bmants]

You mean reliability and comfort bore you, or did you want to take a luxury car to the track?

[@dominicdraughn8558]

You clearly are speaking out of emotion wich led you to this rather abrupt summation this car try waiting a year for this newly established brand to get running at full steam and make your comparison then . I'm not saying it will make you a convert but you may see it as more of a legitimate competitor .

[@CodyBosch]

I don’t think that comparing Genesis to Lexus when it first started is very fair. I say this because, Lexus had an unlimited amount of money to play with, to create a totally bespoke and new car ( LS 400 ). and genesis didn’t have that. They had to work on a budget. I do give props to them for effort though. And that’s coming from a Lexus fan.

[@ottodob]

1:00 panel fitment

[@markmarshall39]

I had to check it out, yep a little off huh, is it the quarter panel, or trunk lid that I'm seeing?

[@jasonbourne3322]

no, if immaculate "detail" matters to you, the shadow gives the optical illusion of the "fitment" youre talking about. Again, spend a minute looking at the panel and telling the difference of the shadow and reflection that causes it. I can give you another video that showss the alignment of the "fitment" pretty professionally.

[@SnoopyRu1980]

I'm gonna trade in my current Genesis for one of the 2 cars...which one is the question...G80 or G90??

[@GameSteph]

$noopyRUger wait for the g80 sport 👍👍👍

[@supershroom164]

Keep your current car. Don’t go broke

[@ilwol1004]

What a beast

[@wesammansour1486]

How come no 0-60???

[@cadsux]

A new Genesis Coupe with those powertrain options would be interesting.

[@SkylineLofe]

would basically be a modern day MR2. Snap Oversteer with too much power from factory because the car would be so light. But, there will always be people to tame the beast...

[@lik_2x435]

So why didn’t you get the v8 then

[@triplemotor]

Far superior to any of the German / GM cars..and the price is even better

[@frien1sq1]

Cant wait to buy one of these 3 years from now for 28 grand.

[@markmarshall39]

I ve had that thought too

[@MrGeezil]

Steven Friend lol I don't think it will depreciate like that. probably in the 40k range

[@_Ojeii]

The Equus is around 30k.

[@daddyeyez740]

This didn't age well. 😂😂😂

[@frien1sq1]

@@daddyeyez740 mmm... 2017 G90 $32,000. Aged pretty well.

[@PresidentJackBauer]

Pretty sure Hyundai used the hexagonal grille first.

[@cleerayburn]

I'm very interested in this car But will wait until they add full glass roof and rear screens on the V8 version. This is only the beginning of something great to come! Can't wait to see their SUV's and sports car by 2020

[@rogerworkman5813]

So if you had a choice between the G90 or the Chrysler 300. Thank you for your video. Roger

[@shanebanich1498]

That's like choosing between a high school football team and the 49ers today!? 300 is a dodge neon compared to the g90😅

[@BrendanMacWade]

This is good. But it's not as interesting as the second generation Genesis sedan. I think that will go down as a collectible sleeper car.

[@zedohh4450]

Its a good step forward but if I remember right volkswagen came up with a $60k luxury model, the phaeton, beautifully built car, great attention to details, very reliable, infact only reliable vw ever if you ask me, could have been an entry level bentley but people had issues shelling out that kind of money on a car with a vw badge. Reliability alone may not keep it in the market there has to be more passion, better drive train because if I am spending that kind of money on a car based on reliability alone I'd get bored easily besides they have the lexus to contend with if reliability is the main consideration.A $60k plus hyundai? well like the zen master said "we'll see"

[@bubbleman1081]

Genesis Motors is the new premium brand from Hyundai. As we all know, the cost of establishing a new dealer network is prohibitively expensive. Tesla, being the front runner of innovation, cuts out the dealer-franchise network completely to fully control the end-to-end customer experience, as well as, reduces all sorts of cost and barriers relating to establishing a new dealership network. I think Hyundai can take a hybrid approach by utilizing existing Hyundai dealership network for inventory and maintenance of Genesis cars, meanwhile similar to Tesla, establish showrooms in malls to display and provide test drives for its vehicles. By taking this hybrid approach, Genesis Motors can effectively differentiate its brand, products, and service from Hyundai. Unlike Tesla, this hybrid model, which includes the existing Hyundai dealerships, would likely(I am not familiar with legal issues) prevent Genesis Motors from all sorts of legal problems.

[@TonyTube407]

Ummmm... Did I miss the mandatory Motorweek tests? Slalom, 0-60, 1/4 mile?

[@miss.wright3035]

One problem, this $80K is still serviced by the same mechanic who works on Hyundai Accents and other low end cars. Hyundai is also known for nickle and diming their customers on service and warranty. Would I trust my $80K car being driven by a minimum wage car jockey,?Who more than likely would be cranking up the radio and punching that gas pedal thru the floor ? If Hyundai wants to pitch high end, then they should open Genesis dealerships with the same post sales service available from Lexus, MERC, BMW, Audi, etc. For now Genesis is just lipstick and mascara, with absolutely no adequate post sales service support !

[@mackfar27]

Five years later and you're correct. I am dealing with this nonsense right now with my local Hyundai dealership.

[@coraline7866]

The V8 gives further options for the back seat.

[@DavidLovesDisco]

Am I the only one to notice a clear plastic piece covering part of the grille? What is that thing and why is it there? Actually, doesn't matter why it completely RUINS any idea of the car having a handsome front end. Looks like it has those clear braces on, only more noticeable!

[@ekscalybur]

That might be where the license plate will have to mount in places where front mounted license plates are mandated by law, such as the state I live in.

[@DavidLovesDisco]

Eks calybur I live in a front plate state as well but is that the best that can be done? It looks cheap and God awful...

[@jlcii]

... That is the housing for the front camera/ sensors.

[@Elusive25]

Lmao

[@briangeeesq]

DavidLovesDisco That piece houses the radar based cruise control, night vision camera and sensors. Many modern luxury cars (MB S550) with those features have the same piece in the grille.

[@alhuol1]

Front audi, rear mercedes !

[@MirageTactics]

A lot of people are comparing genesis to lexus, but there are crucial differences you'd think seasoned pros like motorweek would pick up on. The Ls400 that Lexus launched with vs the G90 both draw heavily from they're European luxury counterparts of their day, but the Lexus was smoother and quieter, the engine was smooth, efficient, and 5x more reliable then a Mercedes. Like they said, the G90's power train isn't anything special.

[@jlcii]

They never said the powertrain wasn't anything special, they said it wasn't as refined. And to be fair, they tested the new TT V6, not the already established and more refined 5.0 V8 thats avail.

[@jlcii]

Subaru more reliable?? Not with those known bad head gasket problem and failed turbochargers that cost thousands to fix. and from personal experience, I would much rather have Hyundai or a Kia any day over a Toyota.

[@jlcii]

someone needs to get their facts straight if they think kias and Hyundais are unreliable. They're actually ranking higher in initial quality right now than Subaru is according to Consumer Reports, and they've been known for being solid cars for a while now. if Subaru has improved, then it is a recent scenario. Hyundai has been topping the quality board for years. That "bullsh*t" is documented.

[@Elusive25]

how can you compare a car back then to a car now?

[@justahyundai]

Alanex Knight get your head out of your ass bud

[@bigd1223]

Hyundai needs to build dealers specifically for its Genisis brand. I'm not about to spend $60k to $70k on a car then hang out at a Hyundai dealer for maintenance.

[@gianniversace601]

So the G90 is Korea's leading sedan

[@Andrew-zv4fm]

While the it looks great inside and out, I can't get past that is a Hyundai. MW makes a comment saying that the buttons are from Hyundai, that has worked for Audi AND VW.

[@jlcii]

How is it you have an issue with this being a Hyundai, which now is a very high-end in quality automaker, but an Audi being a glorified Volkswagen doesn't bother you? If anything, Volkswagens have been more known for quality issues than Hyundai has been for quite some time now. And at least this is built on an actual rear drive chassis; an Audi A8 is essentially a front wheel drive car with all-wheel drive employed on it.

[@Logicsupremacy]

Andrew Syracuse Lexus' have same buttons as those of Toyota's

[@goclunker]

Jo LC buddy, have you ever been in a phaeton? I suggest you drive one.

[@mikewagner4898]

Interesting.... I wonder if you'd feel the same way if u were to purchase a 'Bugatti' knowing that it's a Volkswagen? 🤔🤣

[@charles-davidberube1174]

Wait, am i dreaming or that car has no opening roof??? Lol okay

[@mustang6035]

Bentley stlye Badge fools me thinking it is one from a distance.

[@MrGeezil]

mustang6035 lol you for got not only Genesis uses the with badge right? Mini, Chrysler, Aston Martin all uses the wing badge

[@hlee3098]

The intro of the video shows G80.

[@L1GHT119]

Great cars but Hyundai attributed resale ....Buy 6 months later , for $45k

[@sheridanbucket]

Genesis seems befitting: almost as effervescent as a tin of this year's Korean 'champagne'

[@theRealAV8r]

Funny, the 'luxury' class of cars to me are pretty much the most boring to look at. Tech is all there mind you, but styling is usually so 'big car' banal. And personally, for me, wood paneling, even simulated, is even worse. I don't want to feel like I'm driving a fine piece of furniture, I want to feel like I'm flying a space ship. Gimme carbon fiber over wood motif any day. Having said that, awesome car, Hyundai's basically 'up there' now doing what they do 'down here' - top tier features/safety/style etc etc at a little lower price point.

[@flyingphoenix113]

Those headlights.... Maserati Ghibli, is that you? In all seriousness though, I don't look at most cars for the badge on the front. Unless the car is specifically supposed to be a heritage or homage piece (mid 00's Ford GT), I just evaluate it based on what it has to offer, and this Genesis is starting to be a great alternative to the Germans.

[@Walter-hg2nr]

For the price I would better buy a German!!!!!

[@MatrixDiscovery]

KIA/Hyundai employ mostly German engineers.

[@cadsux]

Also, Peter Schreyer, formerly of Audi, was their chief designer in 2006, and in 2012, became one of their presidents .

[@twpark90]

smasila ah...who told you that?

[@jongwonzaoping8527]

ummm hyundai did??? 멍청한 세끼

[@gianniversace601]

Many people think that Hyundai is a Japanese car, but actually it is not a Japanese car but a Korean car.

[@mohamedswe82]

cadillac ct6 is better & cheaper

[@mikewagner4898]

Ummmmm that's a huge stretch considering the ct6 transmission problems!

[@goclunker]

I am going to pick up a w12 phaeton or s8 of same vintage anyday before this turd.

[@Soh90]

Goodness I can't stand these journalist noobs obsession with Merc, BMW, and Audi. No vehicular compliment is complete without them throwing in "but it's not as good as it's German competitors". For heavens sake Hyundai is trying to build a $100,000 car on $70,000 car budget, cut some slack! Lexus had the same problem but I see they're starting to abandon the bargain aspect and are electing to just stick it to the bloody Germans punch for punch. The LC for example is over $90,000 and I would buy it over all it's German rivals. Same with the upcoming LS which appears to say fack this bargain charade, I'm just gonna be the best large Lexus sedan I can be. When Genesis gets some traction and start to attack the Germans punch for lunch I'm gonna be watching with the biggest grin on my face. Not that I don't like some German products (M3 please). But anyone who has owned one a product of the "German Big 3" would tell you that all the glitters aren't gold and while the highs are high, the lows are incredibly low.

[@gianniversace601]

GENESIS=HYUNDAI is repubilc of korea cars~^^

[@senorgato70]

The only emotion this car evokes in me is, "meh".

[@jlcii]

which at worst can totally be compared to must boring German cars nowadays.

[@senorgato70]

Jo Co LOL. Right. Nice rationalization for a snoozer of a car

[@jongwonzaoping8527]

I don't like the exterior design. I wish it was a bit more exciting and unique

[@justahyundai]

senorgato70 your reaction means jack shit though. so you can take your arrogance and shove it up your civic driving ass

[@senorgato70]

carpetburn clearly it means something enough for you to want to respond. Y U Mad, bro? LOL

[@InvestBetter.]

It's ugly enough to be a modern art masterpiece. Looks too much like the Audi A7. another hot mess of design. And comparing this to Lexus is pretty foolish, given that Hyundai does not believe in this venture enough to even make separate Genesis dealers.

[@gorbaable]

jeolus nissan!

[@BrendanMacWade]

Oh Hyundai is very committed to the Genesis brand. They won't need much more time to make a true GS / LS competitor.

[@InvestBetter.]

They're just not committed as Lexus was. If they are so committed, where are the dealers? A velvet rope in a Hyundai dealer is the opposite of commitment.

[@InvestBetter.]

Slow your ignorance. Every Nissan or Infiniti sedan looks better than this

[@jlcii]

... yet aren't as reliable.

[@MrJonnydanger]

Personally I disagree with this review. I find this car's looks and finishes cheap, cheap , cheap looking.

[@jlcii]

Of course you do. But if it were a Mercedes Benz or BMW badge (and those cars look horrible on the inside), would you be saying the same thing?

[@jongwonzaoping8527]

when I reviewed u yesterday I was very diappoingted everything from the top to bottom screamed CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP. You charge waaayyy too much get ur head out of the cloud.

[@MrJonnydanger]

JoCo - Yes - Other guy - wtf?

[@goclunker]

Jo LC are you really this poor? Go get your Hyundai and kia, everyone in your ghetto will be jealous as you cruise to walmart in flipflops and white socks

[@goclunker]

Bwahahahahahaha! Who in their right mind would pay $70k for a HYUNDAI?!?!?! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤦🏻‍♂️

[@dkpirie]

The voice over guy has the most annoying voice ever. It's up and down a ridiculous number of times.