Which is better?? Hobbywing OTA vs LCD Programmers

[@DJ.1001]

The rpm range in boost is the ramp up. It doesn't take away the boost timing past that range. For example if your boost rpm range is 1,000 to 10,000 and you were running 10 degrees of boost you would have 1 degrees at 1,000 rpm, 2 at 2,000, 8 at 8,000, and ten 10 degrees at 10,000 RPM and higher.

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks again! That is what I meant in the video - but watching it again, it clearly didn't come out of my mouth that way!!!

[@taimaishu-nao1922]

Glad I’m rediscovering this video. Just upgraded my setup to an XD10/D10 combo and tuning has been a challenge simply because I haven’t taken the time to understand it all better. Sure, there’s the EuroRC XR10 guide that details what each setting does but at least in this video, I can see what the ESC is doing while in real-time data mode something that other KZbinrs haven’t explained in their reviews of the XD10 using the OTA link. I’ll play around with my settings and tweak for taste.

[@RoadsideRC]

Glad I could help! Hope you find some settings you really like.

[@bori_ps13]

Much prefer the OTA. Not only it offers a wider range in a particular setting, I can always click exactly what I want to change real quick. The LCD I can’t tell the many times I missed the what I wanted to change and have to come back around, gets annoying after a few times. I also do tuning on the fly when needed.

[@RoadsideRC]

That makes sense!

[@davidr7813]

Thanks for this, I am getting back into racing and I am deciding which of these to get, Now I have seen the difference I will get the OTA.

[@RoadsideRC]

Awesome! Glad this helped!

[@mika_models]

OTA is very very interesting to use. If you really want to know everything your vihicle is doing during in different tracks and different conditions. But I have to say that I personally carrying my LCD box with me all the time. Because when you know what your vehicle is doing in different tracks you can easily chenge your basic settings. You have to be very interested about your vehicle if you buy that OTA programmer. But still I have to say that both of those are VERY easy to use! Big 👍 to HobbyWing for that!

[@RoadsideRC]

Agree 100%! The OTA will probably be used occassionally, whole the LCD box stays with me in my pit bag.

[@AV-RC]

Love all your stuff! Thanks for all the help

[@RoadsideRC]

Happy to help!

[@joserifaie]

I got the ota and I liked it a lot and the box I have is for spectrum escs but I wish hobby wing built it inside the esc like the axe systems for the crawlers or at least some sort of sbus to control it from the transmitter

[@RoadsideRC]

That is an interesting idea!

[@theAessaya]

Just a note: Phase AC swap is _not_ the setting for the motor direction rotation. It's used for cases where you want to physically swap your A and C leads to the motor, for aesthetic or whatever reasons. Normally sensored motors do not like it when the phases are swapped, this setting allows for that. So with this set toon, your esc to motor connection would be A->C, B->B, C->A. Personally I prefer the OTA programmer in my drift car, it allows me to fine-tune the ESC settings without even picking the car up off the parking spot, and monitor the motor RPM and battery voltage on the fly. In my setup the OTA is permanently left connected to the car, and other club members are also doing the same with theirs.

[@RoadsideRC]

Now you have me paranoid. Did I say it that way in the video? I have seen a few folks leave the OTA always connected...but I don't want that extra weight on there. Got it - it is not a lot of weight...but still, ever gram counts!

[@theAessaya]

@@RoadsideRC yup, that's how I heard you say that in the video :) Over here we're not that fussy about the weight, we have cars that are up to 1.6 kg heavy and are still taking podiums, so it's not about the weight, it's about the driver :)

[@remkojerphanion4686]

The data logging feature has got to be the most interesting part of the OTA. Potentially, it could help save some expensive electronic parts!

[@RoadsideRC]

That is right!

[@robinkesterlives]

I just upgraded to the LCD unit vs the OTA and now I am thinking I should have gone OTA. Like you said that data logging, esp for setting up new rigs and learning things would be super nice!

[@robinkesterlives]

Ended up with the OTA and like it so far. The real time info was ridiculously useful. I already know somethings I have set wrong and have corrected them. Could I have done ok w the LCD, sure.

[@frozenshade666]

You might actually already know this and only used a factory settings for the video, but your current "boost Act" set as auto, mean that the value of boost start and end doesn't do anything. Its all auto decided by the ESC. I played a lot with the RPM range and it never feel right for me. So mine is set to auto. A GREAT feature that I really like is the throttle response, I play between 18 and 22 this smooth out acceleration. Great video as usual, I'm proud of using an xr10(because of your video btw) vs others with way overpriced ESC that never changed any setting in.

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes!!! You are right! Also - 100% agree. It is more fun to get right in someone's door with electronics that are half priced!

[@thomasblair7996]

I like the Bluetooth myself ,I prefer using the using the extra settings myself,especially with my crawlers,great video!!

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks Thomas!

[@Northside910]

I am thinking about purchasing a ota blue tooth box. does the ota have more tuning settings than the regular program box?

[@SuperJESSE327]

I am a subscriber and new fan of the channel. That being said, I have to complete disagree with your synopsis. Yes, $30 is a little money to save. Sure, u can get most of the same tuning from the LCD box, but and this is a huge BUT, as u mentioned earlier “not knowing what my RPMs are” is a very clear reason to get the Bluetooth OTA. Being able to make real time changes on the fly will allow for a much better and more precise tuning experience. The time it will save u is also a factor. And the on screen diagnostics are amazing. Spend the extra $30 and get the Bluetooth OTA.

[@RoadsideRC]

Great thing they offer the choice for folks who like either!

[@brentpollock4137]

Thanks for the info good work on the video keep up the good work

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks Brent!

[@turtletrading4207]

The OTA is annoying, you have to connect it to Bluetooth, then you have to connect to the ESC then, you do an update. Installing the HW app itself is not easy. Then you have to wait for sometimes a minute to see and change the parameters and then save them. The program box is much more straightforward and easy to use. Also a lot faster to connect.

[@RoadsideRC]

I agree! Sometimes simple is better!

[@Frikkietube]

Hi, can the lcd hobby wing programmer box ubdate spektrum or do you need to buy the spektrum programming box?

[@RoadsideRC]

My understanding is you need the Spektrum program box. But they sure do LOOK the same, don't they? :)

[@Northside910]

does the ota blue tooth box have more tuning settings than the lcd program box?

[@RoadsideRC]

Nope - all of the same options.

[@Northside910]

@ ok I was hoping that the Qta has a option for throttle adjustment. Throttle sensitivity adjustments for the max 4

[@mikeprater7888]

My question is my lcd box will not connect to a basic esc like a bl120 will the ota do that

[@RoadsideRC]

Hmm. I thought mine did. Have you updated the LCD firmware? I know mine needed a software update. But - I can't remember if I have used it for the 10BL120...

[@mikeprater7888]

@@RoadsideRC good chance i haven't updated it lop

[@robinkesterlives]

I think the 10BL120 can only use the LED programming card and not the LCD or OTA. I am going to try it tomorrow when my LCD comes and will report back if I remmeber.

[@robinkesterlives]

I just tested this. The LCD programmer does not work on the 10BL60 or 10BL120 or the MST version of these ESCs. They require the LED programming card, and can also be programmed using the power button/click button method. My OTA has not come yet or I'd try that as well.

[@robinkesterlives]

My OTA just arrived and it doesn't work on the BL120 and MST BL60. fwiw

[@TashaRandom123]

My lcd v2 box doesn't change any selected item, it just stays on factory settings, could this be because ive got the latest g2s esc 200amp and it accepts only the Bluetooth module. Thanks

[@RoadsideRC]

I don't think the newest ESC only accepts the Bluetooth module. Perhaps your LCD box just needs a software update?

[@TashaRandom123]

@RoadsideRC thanks friend, we did and it says it's up to date. Very frustrating, thanks for replying. You are the nicest guy on the rc channel

[@DaftPunkerOG]

Do you power down the ESC with the program box connected after making changes?

[@TashaRandom123]

We finally worked it out, my wife who knows nothing about rc cars, says to me one night, "maybe there's something wrong with the transmitter" and what do you know. After going out and buying the Bluetooth programmer, I decided to re calibrate to discover that the neutral, brake and throttle have to be in the correct position for the esc the accept any new parameter changes 🤣 thanks to everyone for helping us out. Happy new year to all our RC family!!!

[@RoadsideRC]

@@TashaRandom123 Awesome! Glad you got it figured out!

[@Bluespade115]

Can the hobbywing OTA work with a Xarvis ESC?

[@RoadsideRC]

I have never tried. It would surprise me if it did.

[@billyb5057]

well Troy this was most interesting mate *left a like👍Au 💯full view💢*

[@lxrogergaming8163]

can i use for my hobbywing ezrun max10??

[@RoadsideRC]

I believe so - but you can double-check directly in your ESC manual. It will show.

[@reneortiz2033]

Dose the Bluetooth 1 work on basic esc like bl60 or bl120

[@RoadsideRC]

Great question! I need to try!

[@taimaishu-nao1922]

It does not, according to Hobbywing USA. Also, why when the OTA costs more than the 10BL60…?

[@Gingergangfamily]

you should do yokomo esc tuning bro

[@RoadsideRC]

I guess I need a Yokomo ESC and tuner! I don't have one!

[@robinkesterlives]

I just looked at the Yokomo ESC/Motor combos for my rig and went w the XD10/D10 instead. I'd love to see some coverage here on it too... to see if I missed out. And maybe need to reconsider the Yokomo. I love their servo and gyro combo

[@DJ.1001]

The LCD program card will tell you max RPM. ITS one of the last pages

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks!

[@make749perday]

"Success is walking from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." *Winston Churchill

[@kellykuretich6366]

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[@gbraadnl]

Do not use this with the Fusion PRO/SE 2-in-1 motor/speed controller. It does NOT connect/work

[@RoadsideRC]

Correct - that uses the regular program box.

[@StartsWithALetter]

QUESTION: I’ve done hours of research and comparison…… in your opinion: I’ve found unique price points between the Yokomo esc/motor combo both mid grade and top of the line, hobbywing top of the line drift esc/motor combo, as well as well sought after acuvance. If I’m spending the money I want the smartphone access for adjustments, so the acuvance is out. Is there something YOU think is a notable concern between a Yokomo purchase decision vs hobbywing? I like the idea of a direct drop in motor esc combo offered online that’s in the below $250 price point. Thoughts? I currently own the Redcat rds with Yokomo gyro and servo.

[@RoadsideRC]

I am a big fan of the Hobbywing products. They have always been great for me. I highly recommend them.

[@StartsWithALetter]

@@RoadsideRC grabbed the g2 spec and the high end hobbywing motor and Bluetooth programmer for less than $250 with free shipping. 15% off Memorial Day sale 👍🏻 thank you for your honesty

[@RoadsideRC]

@StartsWithALetter Soundslike a great deal to me!