The Power Hungry Podcast: Peter Zeihan

Peter Zeihan is a geopolitical strategist and the author of four books, including most recently, The End of the World is Just the Beginning. In this episode, Peter talks about the civil unrest - and pending demographic collapse -- in China, why “Apple has refused to see the writing on the wall” in China, Mexico as America’s most important trading partner, why he is investing in commodities, and why -- despite the unraveling now underway in many parts of the world -- he believes “the American system will thrive.” (Recorded December 2, 2022.)
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[@Baasicstuff]

US Navy 20 years here my AOR was global for 15 years Peter is the only one that I can stomach listening too. He has a wonderful understanding on how all this works together

[@Zandiv]

you got played

[@Baasicstuff]

@@Zandiv US Navy was good for me, it was a job and a good one that gave me a lot of education for free. I also gained enough knowledge where I get to work from home after retiring from the daily grind at the age of 42. Peter is a liberal and he also has a man bun but there are many things I like about him also. Thats the beauty of my generation, we get along, we grew up at a time where work meant something. A world run by real men, that passed on really good lessons to the younger generations.

[@Zandiv]

@@Baasicstuff I have no issue with anything you stated, but from watching Peter's previous 'reoorting", he's clearly a fraud - probably an intelligence asset - from China collapsing to Ukraine winning,. With explanations that require absurd mental gymnastics - unless the target audience is under informed or have a built in bias to trust. Watch programs like the Duran or Emil Cosman if you want to be informed about what's going on. Actually, just watch them as a comparison, and as always, choose what you like. Cheers. Oh, and thank you for your service. PS look up jingles, he does youtube vids for world of warships. He's an old salt like yourself. I suspect you'll like his content.

[@paulschock531]

I've listened to Peter Zeihan being interviewed dozens of times. You did the best job by far. I found myself wanting to ask a question, and then you asked it every time, and you did so in intelligent, yet common sense ways that made listening to this easy and incredibly informative. You rightly praised Peter for his grasp of so much, but in Caddyshackese, you're no slouch yourself. You have a new fan.

[@annetteryan5110]

⚠ With respect, sir.. You cannot be this naive! *PLEASE ...* Don't listen to ANYTHING that Peter Zeihan says,* much less his erroneous views and flawed geopolitical analysis on ANY current events, including absurd KZbin videos promoting Russia's demise and his dissemination of ridiculous Western Propaganda! *The reality is, Sanctions levied against* *Russia.. have had a boomerang effect on EUROPE and the U.S.!* Sanctions work effectively on small economies like Cuba, but they do not work well against large economies like Russia, especially those which are heavily reliant on oil and gas exports! Oil and gas are hot commodities, they're what economists call ‘fungible goods’, meaning they can be easily interchanged with another form of the same product. If they try to block Russian oil and gas exports, the U.S./ Europe, will have to buy from another producer and the countries that once bought from that producer will simply turn to buy from Russia. Supply and demand sorts it out. RUSSIA.. is rich in natural resources and they've been living with a windfall of oil revenues for years. Between 2011 and 2014, oil rarely slipped below $100 a barrel. Today we are seeing similar prices, but they are a very recent phenomenon. Since 2016, oil has rarely crossed $70 a barrel. For this reason, the Ruble is higher than its ever been in recent years! It is the energy market, not the "bluster" of Western politicians, that we should keep an eye on... The sanctions are - from a macroeconomic point-of-view, at least - "kabuki theatre." There are headwinds of dramatic change on the horizon... and a convergence of major historic upheaval in our era, that will precipitate, a "permutation & realignment" in geopolitical spheres of influence around the globe! Nations throughout the world, are about to experience a historic shift that is being implemented and The Great "RESET" which will reshape global economic, financial & socioeconomic conditions on an unprecedented level! *The BRICS nations alliance, including: Iran, Argentina, Brazil,* *Russia, India, China, and South Africa - are a MAJOR threat to* *Western Hegemony.* President Putin already announced that Russia, alongside China and other BRICS nations, were getting ready to launch a "new global reserve currency" made up of a basket of BRICS currencies. This reserve currency would be a direct threat to the currently dominant US dollar.. Taken together, the expanded BRICS countries currently produce around 26% of global oil output and 50% of iron ore production used to make steel. They produce around 40% of global corn production and 46% of global wheat production. If these were all traded in the new reserve currency, it would instantly become a cornerstone of the world economy... *and western leaders KNOW IT!!!* The Brit's, along with their sycophant, European counterparts, have such inept leadership who follow lock-step behind the reckless and foolish U.S. administration & feckless President, as they continuously fuel tensions with RUSSIA, while they simultaneously, play a dangerous game of brinksmanship with Xi and China; two superpower nations with highly advanced, Hypersonic Nuclear Missile Technology! The truth is, this kabul of warmongers, Democrats, liberals, elitists and reckless world leaders, who feed into & prolong this "PROXY WAR" will never allow Ukraine out of this nightmare... and they will lose! Which would immediately raise the obvious question of.. *"how did we ever get sucked into this political quagmire?* *Biden's foreign and domestic policies have been an ABYSMAL* *failure.. beginning with the debacle in Afghanistan!* *NEVER TRUST THIS ADMINISTRATION..* When Biden said don't worry about nuclear war...?? *everyone should have been down on their knees praying.* 🙏 BUT then, the administration purchases $290 million ANTI- RADIATION PILLS??!! *This is madness! ☢* The Western disinformation & demonization of Russia.. etc. all of the reckless vitriol, has *ESCALATED* hostilities and are clearly in preparation for a bigger war. The reality is that Russia Has Been warning about Ukraine for decades... *The West and their INEPT leadership should have listened...* *Russia has origins that go far beyond Putin. Russia has a foreign and security blob, just as does the United States, with a set of semi-permanent beliefs about Russian vital interests, which are rooted in national history. Yeltsin protested strongly against the start of NATO expansion in the 1990s and Russia accustomed itself without too much trouble to NATO membership for the former Soviet satellites in Central Europe. But from the very beginning of NATO expansion in the mid-1990s, Russian officials and commentators-including liberal reformists-warned that an offer of NATO membership to Georgia and Ukraine would bring "confrontation with the West" and an acute danger of war. These warnings were echoed by George Kennan, the original architect of the strategy to contain the USSR and the State Department’s greatest ever Russian expert, as well as by Kissinger and other leading American statesmen. *BUT THE FOOLISH U.S. WOULD NOT USE DIPLOMACY* after years of Putin's protestations about NATO expansion... so he invaded! Now, this regional conflict could "potentially" lead to a global conflict and escalate to Global Thermonuclear War! This past June, Zelenskyy admitted Russia occupied 20% of the country, or about 47,000 square miles. That's a territory about the size of New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Delaware and much of Maryland combined. Russia still controls significantly more Ukrainian territory than before February 24. Putin’s army, holds whatever is left of Mariupol, all the intervening territory, and not only Luhansk and Donetsk, but the entire Donbas Oblast. Whereas Ukrainian authorities controlled approximately 60% of Luhansk before the Russian invasion & now Russian forces control over 80% of the region. They also have about 70% of Zaporizhye region. Cumulatively, this accounts for an increase of Russian occupied territory from approximately 7%, including Crimea, before February more than double that now. So even after the UKRAINIAN COUNTER OFFENSIVE... Russia still controls a fifth of the country *THEY HAVEN'T EVEN FULLY MOBILIZED YET!* The reality is the U.S. and NATO have sent BILLIONS of dollars to a corrupt country *WITH NO OVERSIGHT..* while these foolish leaders continue to only escalate tensions with not just Russia, but China as well. The heated rhetoric from the West has only accelerated this crisis, bringing Humanity closer to one miscalculation, that could conceivably lead to Nuclear Annihilation and things can very easily go off the rails! ☢ 🙏

[@paulschock531]

@Annette Ryan I am apparently naive because I am still open minded enough to realize that no one has all of the answers, and if they did, if you did, you could act on your predictions and make billions of dollars in a short period. Not that money is the meaning of life, but hopefully you aren't too esoteric to miss the point. Also, one of the things I appreciate about Peter is his spare use of words. He makes his points succinctly and in ways that are easy to understand. I encourage you to take a course on communication. I tried reading your diatribe three times, and just couldn't make it through. As my speech teacher at Stanford told me (I only reference that to point out that I'm not a weirdo), say what you want to say, and shut up.

[@jacobmarley505]

joe rogan was better

[@mfwitt6363]

totally agree - great questions, much better than Rogan and Callen!

[@charless.gorski537]

I still think this guy is full of bs

[@VMac-eg7fb]

This has been one of the most dynamic, comprehensive, best interviews I have experienced with Peter. I have attended more than a hundred, don't think I missed a word due to the relevance of one word to the next. Thank you Mr. Bryce. Will be tuning to your future interviews.

[@WhatNowChris]

I came here for Peter! I watch him religiously. Peter is incredibly accurate in an era of bs.

[@PhantomOfManyTopics]

Jeter Jeihan is a doofus. Xi JIn Ping is pronounced SHEEE JIn Ping not JHEEEE JIn Ping. This dude has no higher degree than BS.

[@justin_lee_]

I don't even want to admit how much I follow his content.

[@M.-.D]

His Rona predictions were based on main stream narrative and on very limited evidence. He is a great story teller and provides great insights but is fallible.

[@M.-.D]

@Saint Nutella he is exceptionally convincing while not being nuanced with his interpretation of data.

[@GoodmanMIke59]

@Saint Nutella repetitive and overconfident. Loud and repetitive in a way seen only in the way Groucho Marx was "in your face funny!" ... if you like Marx Bros movies ... and I do ... but, like Peter, you do see the punch lines coming a mile off.

[@matthewmaccaughey5016]

YEEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!! THIS IS UNREAL!!!!! Thank you so much for having Peter on Robert! I can't wait to listen to this!!!

[@jamesjensen5000]

The problem with the collapse of globalization is everything is global… when one system fails in a certain country of region all systems are put into failure… because of global systems being global… that may sound simple…But it I isn’t simple… it’s interdependent on everything else… there is no escape or way to hide

[@EireHammer]

_alright alright alright_

[@NemesisEP1]

YYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSS QUEEN!

[@scottfletcher1956]

Dude Peter, if nothing else, is incredibly entertaining. Whether he’s half right about most things doesn’t even matter to me. He is absolutely hilarious. Love his videos.

[@niubi42069]

i’m new here has he got anything wrong or right before?

[@esquared5064]

I've watched several interviews of Peter. This is by far the best. Good job!

[@lololomo5484]

Zeihan brings it. I watch every video I can find.

[@Chironex_Fleckeri]

Peter is extremely concise. It really isn't easy to talk about such broad topics without oversimplification. Kudos

[@DiamondLil]

The End of the World is a fascinating book that provides a very lively and accessible introduction to vast array of interconnected themes. Zeihan does not provide the last word on anything, nor would he claim to, but he gives his reader a great point of departure in any number of directions.

[@bellakrinkle9381]

That may sell books to gullible fools; just don't believe his perspectives - it's geared for him to profit from his speculation - mostly taken from Corporate Media -- which is 90% propaganda.

[@nikbear]

Totally agree, very well said! 👍

[@tonywilson4713]

I have been watching peter for a few months now. I'm an engineer so occasionally I disagree on his engineering assessments. before I started watching him I started taking an interest in economics because it was economists who tend to interfere in everything engineers try to get done. There are 2 areas Peter doesn't discuss much at all. 1) Economic time bombs and there's a huge one that only just emerged in the last few days. NOT even economists are talking about it. I only saw this today. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nH2qfqt-brB5l5o The report from the BIS is available and its scary. 2) Energy generation is about to come smashing in on a whole range of countries. Because the energy transition has been smashed by various packs of clowns all claiming they have the solution when NONE OF THEM have *"THE"* solution. Either they are offering nothing of a solution at all or they refuse to accept they are offering only *"PART"* of the solution. As a result around the world are clusters of ageing power stations that will start to be shut down *THROUGH AGE.* Power stations are like anything else eventually they get to old to do what they were built for. They are like cars in that they eventually break down but they are totally unlike cars because you just can't go down to a used power station yard and buy one and take it home.

[@tonywilson4713]

@Skylark Have you gone and watched that video and checked out the BIS report? I first thought it was WTF. But only a few days ago watched the 2010 Documentary "Inside Job" and that's almost 90minutes of hearing all the denials before the 2008 GFC. The Bank of International Settlements is one of those places we don't hear about much because the only people who do business with it are central banks. I had never heard about but it took very little to realise its one of the main parts of the entire global economic system. If the guys at the BIS are saying its a problem then *ITS A BIG FARKING PROBLEM.*

[@tonywilson4713]

@Skylark *GO AND READ THE BIS REPORT* kzbin.info/www/bejne/nH2qfqt-brB5l5o After you have actually read it and *LISTENED* to what's being explained then you'd know why I'm ready to tell you to FK-OFF. I don't know how old you are but you are talking EXACTLY like they did in 2007 and you are talking JUST LIKE they were about FTX a few weeks ago.

[@alansnyder8448]

I try to watch all of the Peter Zeihan interviews I see online and think this is a good one. I've read all of his books and do recommend them. If you can only read three chapters, I would read Chapters 6, 7, and 8 from the Absent SuperPower which was written 8 years ago. Chapter 6 is about the current Ukraine War which is happening now. Chapter 7 is about The (next) Gulf war which hasn't started yet. Chapter 8 is about The Tanker war which also hasn't started yet. In both cases, the shoes are about to drop.

[@sarahrosen4985]

Thanks for the recommendation. Just got the Kindle version.

[@paulallen6992]

Can you briefly explain the theories behind 7 and 8?

[@Guanaalex]

Peter is an absolute Genius. Thank you so much for such a high caliber premium guest. Outstanding interview.

[@kinbolluck476]

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[@guywebster8018]

ABSOLUTE-

[@Jasonthegreat78]

Are you willing to bet your future on that?

[@Guanaalex]

@@Jasonthegreat78 Well, at least from my shoes here in Germany, our politicians do everything wrong what’s possible. We are on a self destruction path based on stupidity. We drown in corruption. As US vassals, I don’t see much hope. I am not betting the farm, but Peter is certainly close as he can get with his assessment.

[@AP-zy1vy]

I just discovered Peter last week. Must have watched couple dozen of his interviews and speeches since. We all have a limited scope of real knowledge, and an even greater scope of beliefs where our real knowledge falls off. I noticed starting with myself, the less knowledge you have you fall back to talking about what you beleive in. And I seem to talk in simple, general terms when citing my beliefs. Whereas when I talk from my knowledge, I talk about specifics, numbers and facts. Notice our politicians more often talk in general terms...beliefs. Peter spends his words on facts, graphs, figures and in detail describes the logical connections between all these. Breath of fresh air after listening to our inept politicians for the past 40 years since I started watching the news in high school. So if this guy runs for president, I'm voting for him. He proves there are some capable Americans left.

[@martinfoss3894]

Listened to Peter for a while. He sounds like a record.😊One of my favorites.

[@hill2750]

I actively search out his talks, to re-hear the jokes, and catch the 2% updates.

[@travishill6733]

@@hill2750 And he stays consistent & not-wrong most of the time.

[@bighands69]

Information does not change. You can ask a medical professional about treatments and they will have the same conversation with somebody 3 months later until there is innovation.

[@DummyFace123]

Yeah it mostly stays the same with frequent course corrections. I have detected the subtle evolution of the record, but yeah sometimes it feels like the same concert repeated, but a lot of what I've listened to from him have been during the same year sometimes even the same month. xD

[@nilesh5548]

As with deep time issues like geography and demography, there is not much changing about those save for how countries and peoples interface with the reality and respective awaking to it.. helpful in a country like the US to see through the two and four year thought cycles 🙏

[@RadhakrishnanMudliar]

Here for Peter Zeihan. He makes so much sense even if he does not mention India very often.

[@MGarafano]

He did a really interesting presentation for India specifically, it would seem you guys have a very bright future.

[@Clone42]

This is the only interview of Zeihan that actually probes basics, like the size of the team behind him and his history at Stratfor. He's usually presented as some kind of one-man oracle, an image he seems to cultivate. Thanks for injecting some humility from the onset, the detour from his press kit talking points was long overdue. I like his analysis but every good guy needs a punch in the shoulder from time to time.

[@musimedmusi8736]

Great interview-Zeihan expanding on his book and filling in and updating even more details. Excellent interviewer.

[@donthetrader]

This has been one of the BEST interviews I’ve ever heard….Thanks !

[@giscone1]

Peter Zeihan is an extraordinary speaker. As commented at around 56 minutes he is able to marshal an amazing amount of facts while speaking for extended periods. I am 75 years old and. because of eyestrain, gave up reading books and started almost exclusively listening to audiobooks. I have learned to avoid books read by the authors. They are almost always bad even when the books themselves are quite good. An example of this is Maggie Haberman's latest book on Trump. Her reading of her book is terrible, almost unlistenable in my opinion. On the opposite end of the spectrum are Douglas Adams readings of his Hitcher's Guide books, absolutely marvelous. Peter Zeihan's reading of The End of the World is Just the Beginning is in later category. It is incredibly well read, there is no feeling that he is reading from a book. One thing that I notice about Peter Zeihan is that if I close my eyes while listening to him speak I swear that he sounds just like Jon Hamm. Maybe that is just me.

[@matbob7249]

Peter is most interesting guest in all spectrum of information. Absolutely astonishing outspokenness, I got like half the brain of modern human yet I’m able to understand more than my usual 10%

[@Nicholas.Rogala]

I love that he name dropped Guns, Germs, and Steel and World War Z. Two of my favorite books! No wonder I love his work. 😆

[@Weed-sq3rt]

Guns, Germs, and Steel has no reference for the anthrax blanket So take everything else with a grain of salt too

[@Nicholas.Rogala]

@@Weed-sq3rt No

[@Weed-sq3rt]

@@Nicholas.Rogala If there are no references then it is considered made up history.. ask any historian if you doubt me Source check.

[@justwhenithought]

Good interview. It's good to hear personal questions for Peter as well. No one else has done that.

[@drmikeosgood]

What a pleasure to listen to the ongoing world changes! Thank you Peter Zeihan...

[@nisigate]

This interview is the best I’ve seen of PZ love his quirky sense of humor 😂

[@charleswomack2166]

For as smart as Peter is, he is remarkably humble. And he is very generous with his time as well. I don't think that he would ever say no to appearing on anyone's podcast, even if they are just beginning.

[@Mark-im6pm]

Amazing conversation! Thank both of you. Great questions and superior responses.

[@donaldberry4181]

You asked Peter the question I have been waiting for him to be asked, how does Peter Z become Peter Z. Where does he get his information from. He didn’t go nearly as deep as I’d hoped but I’m glad you asked and I hope at some point he does a seminar on how you get to know everything about everything.

[@user-jd9kg3pd9z]

What gives you hope? Excellent question. My answer after listening to so many Zeihan interviews is this: the world’s population is NOW trending down. In 30-50 years the world’s population should be much lower than it is now. This will take a lot of pressure off the Earth to provide for and feed so many hungry people. Your interview was/is one of the very best I have watched and I’ve watched a lot of Zeihan interviews since Russia invaded Ukraine. Seems this event put Ziehan on the map as he accurately predicted it. I am now a subscriber to your channel. Pete

[@simonpollo]

Loved the bit after minute 54 where Peter talks about his business and schedule. Great stuff!

[@jaycasbon2749]

Best Peter Zeihan interview to date - Thank you!!!!! Well done, Robert Bruce.

[@charless.gorski537]

Joe Rogan was better

[@terrymartin9972]

Two of my favorite Media/Information Contributors! Thanks, Robert.

[@rauldavila8632]

We love Mr.Zeihan. One of the greatest Americans in our great country

[@AliceinWonderlandzz]

Great interview Robert. By far the most detailed knowledge rich exchange between you and Peter. I am in awe of the depth of both your knowledge. Now excuse me while I go buy a cabin in the woods, dig a bunker and curl up in a corner with a hot choclate waiting for the world to explode!

[@linmal2242]

Your problem is that you are targeted by both the Ruskies and the Chinkies (is that bad language?) with their super-nukes. So your 'cabin in the woods' scenario is not viable.! You need to be in the Southern Hemisphere, far away from the deluge, DELUGE of ICBM's that will waste the Northern Hemisphere, both going East and West.! Yes, the S H will suffer somewhat, but compared to N America/Europa it will be minimal ! Besides we have better wine which I am drinking now !

[@PRAR1966]

Outstanding interview - you guys have a rapport and it made this chat - information specific, in a great way.

[@hill2750]

Peter Zeihan is World Class, this is an excellent video

[@Grockrobin]

I'm guessing this will do your subscriber numbers wonders. Peter is my favourite geopolitical analyst.

[@CooldadFLHTCUI]

Listening to Peter is a humbling experience.

[@whitlockbr]

I thought the blank sheet was "you already know what I'm protesting, you don't need a sign"

[@randr302]

I hope Peter is taking in the $$ for his work!! He deserves it.

[@redcoltken]

I think his speeches cost 10k, but he does podcasts for free

[@fazdoll]

He is sending all of the profits from all his books to a medical charity. So his books must have sold very well and he must be doing great on his speeches.

[@tuckerbugeater]

@@redcoltken Nothing is free.

[@gtranquilla]

Robert - I read your book a long time ago and found it highly informative. I also watch Peter’s videos frequently and will soon buy and read his material.

[@dark_fire_ice]

As an aspiring Dats Analyst, that is essentially what Peter is. In fact I used a few of his presentations on KZbin on the same info to different groups (Security, Pork, etc), as ways to present the data properly to the stakeholders at hand

[@lololomo5484]

Um, (cough) yezzz. The "stakeholders" at hand. Prezicely.

[@dark_fire_ice]

@@lololomo5484 yeah, it's a principle for DA; the same data may need to be presented to various parties with various needs. For instance, shareholders, marketing, product design, manufacturing, customer relations, and possibly more, will need the data, and conclusions, explained to them by thier own framework (manufacturing is not going to care that the product is now trending towards one color scheme because some pop idol switched theirs, while design would like the heads up on customer demands)

[@tayoneumann9533]

First ep I’ve watched - love Peter and good interview, Mr. Bryce

[@joncesaretti6037]

Sir, Ypu are a phenomenal interviewer.

[@LighthouseLiars]

How did this guy get Zeihan on with 3k subscribers? Impressive.

[@lololomo5484]

That lonely chair in the background of our host is haunting me.

[@peteradare8252]

Love Peter, love your interviewing style Robert.

[@Billfish57]

Peter is fun to listen to, no doubt about that, we can all learn a lot from him, just keep in mind that no one knows it all, he is way off on about 25%, but that's probably about as good as anyone can get.

[@terrymartin9972]

Great show Robert! I listened to every word!!

[@immortaljanus]

Damn, World War Z! I did not expect him to say that. Been a fan of that book for years. It's a great mirror to humanity, precisely because the premise is outrageous.

[@lololomo5484]

Precisely., Watson.

[@leenickshramko1100]

I got the "gist" of that intro! HA Watching this to the end is worth it.

[@dponderunt12]

Just picked up Peter’s new book. Thx for the content.

[@waelben2000]

Thank you guys. This was brilliant.

[@lucas4736]

Best book I’ve read the entire year

[@moonstruck336]

Oh man ! This was probably the best one yet ! Damn, Peter doesn't just give me amazing new information, somehow he makes me think in a new way, and I just love that kind of people !

[@hasanchoudhury5401]

Remarkable broad review of the current world affairs. Thanks.

[@TK-en2hq]

I wonder if Peter is physically capable of giving a presentation without mentioning melon scoops.

[@theknifedude1881]

I’ve read The Accidental Superpower and am currently reading The End of The World is Just The Beginning, and am familiar with Peter’s take. I’m American so I hope he’s correct. Anyway, thanks for putting this together. I have subscribed and am looking forward to more of your content.

[@dogetaxes8893]

Been watching Zeihan and reading his new book on the side and it's intresting perspective. But remember the golden ages are always followed by the dark ages, and if what Zeihan is proposing comes to fruition, even if it's bad if we can get through it together it will be worth it. As he said it's a readjustment period as we enter a new phase of history.

[@bighands69]

America is in a different situation from everywhere else because it has everything it needs and a government that is conservative in nature even though the political parties on the face of it may not be that conservative.

[@ernestmac13]

Look up the technology; keep in mind tech revolutions that once took centuries now occur every few years. I disagree with many things Elon Musk says and does however, the vertical integration, Giga-press based and highly automated assembly lines,.ability.of employees to make fr.dwpartment to department and between Tesla and Space X, will eventually become the structure of most companies. Keep this in mind while reading about the tech singularity.

[@fitzg002]

Great analysis of the UK very insightful!

[@jjfy6]

Peter’s perspective is awesome

[@tonyfriendly4409]

I have read both of the books he suggested, and they are both bangers.

[@ehlava]

outstanding. this was a refreshing line of questions on current topics. thx!

[@jamesowens7176]

Awesome interview! Thanks for the edifying discussion!

[@johnboomerboy3042]

“The Silk Roads: A New History of the World” by Peter Frankopan, Laurence Kennedy, et al. Available in print, Kindle and Audible.

[@gussiegus4943]

Excellent discussion. Thank you.

[@olenakrasutska2869]

Thank you. Great interview, interesting questions, reiterating them also helps better understanding

[@morpher44]

52:23 Analog chips are also silicon. I guess you mean analog in the sense of magnetic tape, variable resistor pots, 8-track tape, gears, rubber bands, transistors harvested from old machines, vinyl records on a platter, steam power, optics using lenses and gears, mechanical oscillators, VCR video tape, Kodachrome film, paint, clay, incandescent bulbs, spring mechanisms, magnets, slingshots, knives, bow and arrow, catapult.

[@forrestdick2104]

Underratted comment, IMO 🔥🔥

[@stephenlloyd3064]

Let me try. Digital refers to on/off, ones and zeros. Analog is simpler, where a whole spectrum or symphony passes through a single wire at the same moment. At the far end all but the important part is filtered out. Radar, Sonar and yes vinyl records are good examples of analog because of the variations of frequency. I think you left the barn at slingshots, knives, bow and arrow, catapult. Anything broken down into a series of unchanging highs and lows is digital.

[@morpher44]

@@stephenlloyd3064 single wire. Nah!. You need at least 4 wires for stereo. I refuse to go back to mono. Each channel has two wires powering a speaker or headphones, etc. Nicola Tesla did mess around with single-wire transmission, but he used the Earth's ground as the return -- which is the 2nd wire. He probably got the idea from Stubblefield (of Earth battery fame). In the video game virtual reality, we have digital bows and arrows, slingshots, knives, etc. In the real world, we have physical versions of same. The analog versions require lots of training and hurt more. 🙂

[@morpher44]

@@stephenlloyd3064 Also, just when you've think you've mastered ones and zeroes, along comes the stupid Qubit.

[@stephenlloyd3064]

Me again. For stereo I totally agree qualitatywise. Had a quad system in the '70s that spoiled me rotten. Still collect big speakers I will probably never use. The first serious gaming computer was stereo but a lot of early computer models were mono back when sound was a new feature. We live in an analog world. Computers "think" in digital format. Crossover chips like analog to digital - digital to analog are everywhere. Modems and video processor boards are perfect examples. High speed signal transmission lines (wire and optical) combine different digital signals carried at different frequencies at the same time (bandwidth) to cut back on the number of wires required.

[@richardmiddleton4634]

Peter is dead-on that Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs, and Steel really set the template for a historical look at the effects of geography and climate, and how they set the stage for the geopolitical outcome 3,000 years back.

[@deborahcurtis1385]

Entertaining to watch! So true. I used to be very stressed about China as a threat in the SEAsia/Pacific region. Now we're watching it implode.

[@deborahcurtis1385]

I'm not doing Dallas anytime soon. Yikes!

[@crawkn]

Thanks for this interview, I'm used to seeing prepared presentations from Peter and this is an interesting change. Does he do such interviews without charge?

[@anthonya880]

very unlikely.

[@simonholliday3421]

With all due respect to the Power Hungry Podcast, the power balance here is not in his favor, its a 3000 sub podcaster interviewing (arguably/probably) the most prominent geopoloticist working today. If Peter didnt charge, its charity.

[@TheLenzor]

Could also be 3000 potential book buyers

[@elijahullmann6231]

Interviewer’s jokes are painfully awkward. Peter is great, as ever!

[@BryceLovesTech]

I just love your name Bryce LOL

[@VMac-eg7fb]

Not only the logistics but the reasons, always something strategic, multiple repetitions that reinforce previous knowledge for the senior investors as they can never forget different countries physical needs. Philosophies that differentiate winner nations from loser nations. The flow of specific goods and all the methods of transportations incorporated along with the graphs and cartoons envolved. He is a rather complete set of knowledge for anyone seeking a full repertoire of world wide business information, a Gold mine spoken in kindness and acumen.

[@Tegilles]

Awesome my two favorite podcasters!!

[@dh40]

FYI ~ Found this podcast BC I just listened to Zeihan on JRE w/ Joe Rogan. Fascinating stuff.

[@petero8847]

Great interview both. Deserved the new subscription

[@joannemeeks745]

Highly recommend the book.

[@batsnackattack]

At around 20:00 and it reminds me that I just recently visited Canada. It was stunning to see mostly native-born Canadians living on the streets, if not they live 6 in a home sharing bedrooms like children would, there is no place to rent even if you could afford 90% of your monthly income on it. At the exact same time, they cannot build condos fast enough. Apparently Covid was unable to go near those sites as locals said they didn't slow for a minute for the last 3 years, as fast as they can build. All condos have 2nd generation agents (or some foreign born) and locals say they don't really do 'showings' or 'sales' as almost every unit is pre-bought via overseas buyers who rarely need more than some internet computerized photos of what the condo will look like when done. The sales prices were stunning. really, no Canadian working person outside of maybe high salary surgeons or top 5% salary level Canadians could buy those (or.. some could in theory but will be house-poor mortgage slaves, couples who both work for the mortgage). I think I have some pictures or video clips where you can see these condo units (almost exclusively sold to overseas buyers) with Canadians slumped over bus stop benches outside the units or laying in blankets on the ground. Locals pointed out there is ZERO beds in any homeless shelters. At best they sleep in the hallways hoping someone dies or gets arrested to free up a bunk bed. It was normal, normal typical life, to find 4 grown adult Canadians, not 20-somethings but 50s, 60s, strangers but who shared rent on only one floor of a house paying about 40% of their salary per person. One condo made the local newspaper as being the first one in what is really a very remote, formerly a kind of backwater dirt road area, it sold for over 1 million and it was a tiny condo. The new owner was an unnamed buyer from India who purchased it long-distance but planned to move in somewhere in the next year or two. It's not unusual to see 100 condos, all sold where 30% are empty as the overseas owners haven't immigrated yet etc. Yes, it's also true that very few of these people work in Canada. Not long ago Canada even made a 'fast-track' if they'd open a business with the belief that they'd, at least, hire a Canadian or two (who'd pay taxes etc) and they found it was nearly ZERO. Actually, they'd hit the minimum 1-person hired which would be... the son or daughter who ran the gas station/convenience store during the day. They found almost statistical zero paid in taxes (most don't have jobs and most businesses are purposely money-losers or break-evens). Canada is indeed topped off and at the end now.

[@rubberbumm]

great questions Great interview. Peter is a beast although I sometimes wish he'd be less correct for my own mental health

[@TaiChiBeMe]

Gotta get his book now.

[@Zumpage]

Year later nothing Peter said came to pass. He makes it from trying to fill people with dread with a light hearted tone . I wouldn't back the same stocks as him

[@4700_Dk]

Peter nailed it on Russia’s move into the Ukraine.

[@EPFForsyth]

It was funny as hell to see Mr. Bryce realize that Mr. Zeihan is an actual expert. CJNG is on the rise...and they are brutal out here in West Texas.

[@assertivekarma1909]

I give him credit for not doing the Ivy league, it's an exaggerated value added endeavor for exaggerated quality of students... but it is associated with arrogance, corruption, and a over emphasized perspective.

[@SoonerStoneAI]

I actually had the opportunity to see Robert Bryce in Tulsa, several years ago. Just discovered Peter a few days ago, and thought that Robert and him would be a very good chat. How lucky is this? Speaking to the Russians shutting in wells. I dont think they will shut in their wells, en masse, i think they will attempt to build temporary storage (open pits), first. Those will eventually fill up, and they will start to run it out onto the ground, and/or they will fill up those pits, to the top, and then rain will cause them to overflow, its gonna be a disaster. Eventually the wells will fail, but who knows how long that will take.

[@cbtownson3820]

Need Peter on JRE

[@concretejungle9608]

Why? Do you just want to see the smartest guy being interviewed by one of the dumbest ?

[@PaulBlalock-vd6pj]

Outstanding insight.

[@4Him4u2]

Great interview. Good questions.

[@phathokum1855]

I've been studying people who appear to be intellectuals, and sometimes are, my entire adult life. I don't try to emulate them, but try to understand their thinking processes, and view them from a critical thinking perspective, searching for analytical flaws. I know it is a peculiar hobby, but in my opinion, it is more interesting than bird watching, a hobby many enjoy. Ziehan caught my interest because while he comes across as intellectual, knowledgeable, confident, and cognitively expeditious, he is wrong at least 50% of the time (flip a coin). For example, he sees China in a rapid decline, and sees the US in an ascendent projectory over the coming decades. His China decline narrative is his most promulgated, and essentially as absurd as arguing that the world is flat. China in decline and the US on the rise is something the majority of the public will want to believe. Most such people will seek out someone like Zeihan to indulge their confirmation bias. But a knowledgeable intellectual thinker knows that is nonsensical. It took a little time to figure him out, but my conclusion is that he is a con artist, and a good one. In college, the colloquial was bullsh-t artist. One major characteristic of such people that he exemplifies, is that he never pauses to think, is never uncertain, and articulates the appearance of an informed answer to every question, regardless of the subject. He knows how to project himself as someone in the know, and knows what narratives will draw attention, then he portrays himself as an expert in the subject manner of that narrative. He plays this game well and drums up click bait and interest. I don't see him as any worse than some of the many pundits (cons) on news platforms that get paid to give credence to whatever nonsense the media is peddling, but unlike them, he is essentially his own news platform.

[@joycem5967]

@Phat Ho Kum Didn't you see what is happening inside China? Didn't you see what was going on under Xi power grabbing? China is very big but not as strong, Chinese ppl won't die out, CCP will, the world is watching!

[@phathokum1855]

@@joycem5967 Hoping isn't reality. It s the US that is collapsing not China, you haven't noticed that? Lol

[@silverc4s146]

Very Good Show! Kudos to both of you...

[@Xius_WoW]

I Fucking love hearing peter talk about the world

[@deeridge5116]

Preach brotha preach

[@krishnanunnimadathil8142]

37:45 Zeihan is right that the difference between British and American property rights with regards to subsoil really helps Americans co-opt in the process of resource exploration, whereas in Britain, the law sets people dead-set against any exploration. Why would they agree when they don’t get a penny?

[@paulhicks3595]

A bit off topic but I see a great big, very visible and now ubiquitous podcasting type microphone very near the speaker and dominating the frame on one side and no visible microphone on the other and yet , despite not having a big fancy mic in shot, Peter’s audio is actually clearer.

[@serbannicolau3489]

0:38 I've heard the best description of what you do.

[@Dick_Dawson_Rad]

World War Z the book was really good. I totally agree with Peter's assessment.

[@jocosus3]

57:31 Peter Zeihan mentioned "Johnny Mnemonic" - #LoveTheRandomness

[@garyshan7239]

plaza in Mexico refers to an area of Mexico a group controls usually named for a city

[@petersadow3810]

I follow Zeihan on KZbin. You did an excellent job on your interview in getting him to summarize much of his thinking so that it all made sense to me. Thank you both.

[@Owen_Nelson_Light_Widening]

The Silk Roads book is by Peter Frankopan

[@ISAAKKUSH]

I wanted to write this comment, but I knew someone already did it

[@richardcameron3762]

Glad you wrote the comment as I was going to ask the author 😊👍

[@richardcameron3762]

Owen would you recommend to read it?

[@edwinamezcua2658]

Great interview !