Robin Hood & The Venom Dilemma | Anatomy Of A Failure

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@Filmento
@Filmento 5 жыл бұрын
Add "sheriff" to the list of words my mouth refuses to say without a big struggle Also -- nutting ham.
@ejland6349
@ejland6349 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve haven’t see Venom yet. Is it really worth watching?
@joaodorjmanolo
@joaodorjmanolo 5 жыл бұрын
@@ejland6349 it's a medium movie. I liked the dialogue between Ed Brock and Venom, but it starts later in the movie and ends quickly. The beginning is kinda boring and the action aren't that good (but it's kinda cool to see). It's worth if only cost 12 dollars or less (my opinion).
@TexasSportsTV
@TexasSportsTV 5 жыл бұрын
God Damn. There is nothing wrong with saying you enjoyed it but it could be better. I enjoy shit and can sit down and watch and enjoy myself but when talking I can admit when there are faults and how it could be better. Learn from the mistakes than make a better movie next time. These butt hurt people need to not get triggered when a mistake is pointed out.
@TexasSportsTV
@TexasSportsTV 5 жыл бұрын
@@joaodorjmanolo My theater is $3 in the morning and $5 in the afternoon. Than there's the $1 theater that plays movies once all the other theaters stop playing the movie. So I don't have a too expensive theater.
@sergeantsharkseant
@sergeantsharkseant 5 жыл бұрын
I don´t like Venom because it is so far away of the comics
@tyrannicfool2503
@tyrannicfool2503 5 жыл бұрын
Is someone else confused as to why the action scenes on the Middle East look somewhat as a modern war just that with bows?
@redforest9269
@redforest9269 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was like "Why are all of them archers? What is this, Afghanistan?"
@jordinagel1184
@jordinagel1184 4 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I was thinking! They all have the same uniforms, which look a bit like modern military gear, they all use bows, and in a way that makes them seem more like modern guns, etc. It’s about as subtle as The Patriot, and I wonder why they felt the need to include such a terrible design choice
@lasura
@lasura 4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the script was written with modern day and assault rifles in mind but, somewhere along the way, someone chickened out and we end up with this nonsense. It just HAS TO be something like that. It's just all so nonsensical.
@_birdie
@_birdie 4 жыл бұрын
that was on purpose
@jordinagel1184
@jordinagel1184 4 жыл бұрын
birdie well, still looks like shite
@oddballl9128
@oddballl9128 5 жыл бұрын
I can't believe Jamie Foxx doesn't face off against his son's killer. That's like, a necessary scene. Screenwriting 101.
@TheNinthGeneration1
@TheNinthGeneration1 4 жыл бұрын
The gun they forgot to shoot
@eddiedingle767
@eddiedingle767 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheNinthGeneration1 it was supposed to be an easy grab
@audiosurfarchive
@audiosurfarchive 4 жыл бұрын
If only they got T. Then it'd been no easy grab; conditions for being better.
@VespoLiveGaming
@VespoLiveGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Chemo loaded the gun, showed it to the audience, holsterd it, then in act three, removed the magazine, cleared the chamber, and locked it in the gun safe for the rest of the story.
@fauxhound5061
@fauxhound5061 3 жыл бұрын
There's not enough time, because he got a lot of enemies.. lot of people draining his energy
@TheSunMoon
@TheSunMoon 5 жыл бұрын
Sheriff? With that outfit, he might as well be commander of a Death Star. Wait a minute..
@Subscribeeveryone
@Subscribeeveryone 4 жыл бұрын
Rogue one a Robin Hood story
@bobo577
@bobo577 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's pretty much Krennic from Rogue One again.
@greenraptor5766
@greenraptor5766 3 жыл бұрын
😆😆😆
@Gadget-Walkmen
@Gadget-Walkmen 3 жыл бұрын
@Greg Elchert lmao that pun was NOT bad at all.
@twackburn
@twackburn 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gadget-Walkmen I agree. All puns are pretty cheesy, but if that was a bad pun then wtf is a good pun?
@ScreachHiensburg
@ScreachHiensburg 5 жыл бұрын
Before watching the video: Why is everyone complaining about the costume designs? After watching the video: What the fuuuuuuuuuuck were those costumes?
@wolf1066
@wolf1066 5 жыл бұрын
Haven't even finished watching the video but the short amount I've seen so far has me wondering exactly the same thing.
@theskullicorn4588
@theskullicorn4588 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like a weird sci fi and medivial mash up which doesnt work
@TarfuLuke
@TarfuLuke 4 жыл бұрын
@@theskullicorn4588 That's kind of what they were going for, it's supposed to be a mixture of futuristic and old design, i think it works with what they are going for, if you go into it (the movie, not just the video lmao) expecting medieval garbs you're gonna be disappointed
@leflanged2707
@leflanged2707 3 жыл бұрын
If you even have a passing appreciation o history or have watched any other proper Robin Hood movie, you will hate the setting and costume design of this movie. If you don’t care for history or previous Robin Hood movies, you won’t dislike the setting and costume design of this movie.
@aleistererikalupano7386
@aleistererikalupano7386 3 жыл бұрын
@@TarfuLuke and ended up looking like cheap Halloween costumes you buy online. Well matches perfectly with the cardboard sets
@jaimestark3019
@jaimestark3019 5 жыл бұрын
This should get a razzie for worst costume design. You literally can't tell what period this movie is taking place in just from looking at it. And of course Maid Marion looks like some random generic instagram influencer. Such a visually unpleasant film.
@thebrotherhood227
@thebrotherhood227 5 жыл бұрын
i genuinely could not tell whether it was set in Nottingham or Syria
@wergar_the_warwolf6834
@wergar_the_warwolf6834 5 жыл бұрын
Also at the casino scene, I was Like hold on what the fuck? What Period are we in?
@razzle2429
@razzle2429 5 жыл бұрын
I've never seen this movie, so I was trying to figure out by the clips whether it was set in present day or medieval times. By the end of the video, I still couldn't say for sure!
@wergar_the_warwolf6834
@wergar_the_warwolf6834 5 жыл бұрын
I will say though, I though Robin Hood(the character) looked okay
@Subjekt3
@Subjekt3 5 жыл бұрын
@@wergar_the_warwolf6834 for some steampunk movie maybe...
@Marcells44
@Marcells44 5 жыл бұрын
That scene where the two buddies smile and pleasantly walk out on the sheriff's body hanging behind them is terrifying.
@donm1719
@donm1719 5 жыл бұрын
Loool it was so unnecessary also seemed James didn’t give a shit anymore who killed his kid
@g.d.graham2446
@g.d.graham2446 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@oliverm376
@oliverm376 5 жыл бұрын
Why do the characters in Robin Hood movie have outfits that look like they're from blade runner?
@g.d.graham2446
@g.d.graham2446 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@miintyfresj
@miintyfresj 2 жыл бұрын
I think they were trying to do a Romeo and Juliet Vibe... I think they failed.
@OffbeatWorlds
@OffbeatWorlds 5 жыл бұрын
Why do all the costumes look like modern high fashion? There's not even a whiff of historical accuracy
@JohannesLilover
@JohannesLilover 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@samjensen8966
@samjensen8966 5 жыл бұрын
They were trying to make the film timeless, but that ultimately failed.
@TimetoBadger
@TimetoBadger 5 жыл бұрын
This film was not made to be historically accurate in the slightest. It's supposed to be hip and cool and bows are fired like as if they were assault rifles. Not a defence, that's just what it does.
@optillian4182
@optillian4182 5 жыл бұрын
The filmmakers probably played too many JRPGs.
@bitsandbolts7884
@bitsandbolts7884 5 жыл бұрын
That bothered me so much, it looked stupid
@RipRahat
@RipRahat 5 жыл бұрын
Some people need to realize that saying '' I like this movie'' and ''this is a good movie'' is not the same thing.
@chris9206
@chris9206 5 жыл бұрын
Can be said about any movie.
@AnomalyINC
@AnomalyINC 5 жыл бұрын
@@chris9206 I disagree. A good movie is competently made. An enjoyable movie is more subjective. I enjoy plenty of movies that are simply poorly made. And there are several "good" movies that are nearly flawless in execution, that I simply do not like. "Space Truckers" is not a good movie. I love it. "The Shining" is a very good movie. I do not like it.
@chris9206
@chris9206 5 жыл бұрын
Anomaly How so? Its mostly about opinion as preference. Other than that the conflict between awards and box office.
@AnomalyINC
@AnomalyINC 5 жыл бұрын
@@chris9206 Cinematography, storytelling and composition can all be judged as objectively bad or good. Stories themselves, as well as the enjoyment one might derive from them, can not. A movie with poor sound mixing, bad acting and jarring cuts is not good. It can be very entertaining, but it is poor craftsmanship. I apologize if I am unable to explain properly, English is my second language.
@chris9206
@chris9206 5 жыл бұрын
Anomaly Thats true but its mostly opinion as preference. Being objective is looking at everything along with awards and box office having the same equal payoff.
@fritzorino
@fritzorino 5 жыл бұрын
Why did they make the fighting scenes in the middle east look like theyre from an Iraqi War movie and not a medieval one. This whole movie just looks so dogshit and unauthentic.
@MrHanderson91
@MrHanderson91 5 жыл бұрын
Because holkywood producers are morons with dung for brains.
@Zack2G
@Zack2G 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrHanderson91 ironic
@Athanatoi
@Athanatoi 5 жыл бұрын
@@Zack2G It will be ironic if the producers are smart yet they produced this garbage
@CaecoAequitas1
@CaecoAequitas1 5 жыл бұрын
you obviously dont know about the backdrop of ALL robin hood movies in the past. They all have a political message to advance the legend of robin hood for the decade/time period. This one is about occupying countries and US involvement in foreign wars ect. that is to say its still not a good movie.
@fritzorino
@fritzorino 5 жыл бұрын
@@CaecoAequitas1 Thats cool and all but why didnt they just make the film be set in modern times then? The movie is set in medieval times but it doesnt look like it is and thats the problem. If they made an adaption thats set during the Iraq war or something I wouldnt have a problem with it that sounds like it could be cool.
@moriororbi6963
@moriororbi6963 5 жыл бұрын
The 1st act was problematic??? How about the entire movie...
@jesusangulo2119
@jesusangulo2119 5 жыл бұрын
The 1st act was the detonator to this movie to bomb.
@moriororbi6963
@moriororbi6963 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, true dat, but I don't think they over-analyzed the whole process. But it could have been a bit less messy, I agree.
@dantefromdevilmaycry9857
@dantefromdevilmaycry9857 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly.. in order to like this movie i thought to skim it, but that didn't work.. it's still shit!
@audiosurfarchive
@audiosurfarchive 4 жыл бұрын
*pR0blEm4tIccc!*
@allflying3
@allflying3 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Filmento, he only talk about one specific aspect of a movie. Sometimes he talk more than one thing but he makes a single in-depth conclusion.
@movieexpert18
@movieexpert18 5 жыл бұрын
They could have fixed the antagonist problem by having the Sheriff of Nottingham arrest Robin for back taxes or a false charge and personally tear him away from Marian and force him into service as a crusader.
@Filmento
@Filmento 5 жыл бұрын
This is very good, makes it even more personal and hands-on
@commander31able60
@commander31able60 5 жыл бұрын
So simple and elegant, and it didn’t even occur to the filmmakers.
@Nefariousbig
@Nefariousbig 5 жыл бұрын
And in your eyes that's more of a transgression than wanting to burn poor people's homes to the ground? What the actual fuck is wrong with you people
@piguyalamode164
@piguyalamode164 5 жыл бұрын
@@Nefariousbig It is not, but we need to connect and actually see him be a jerk, and this is what this solution would do
@Nefariousbig
@Nefariousbig 5 жыл бұрын
@@piguyalamode164 the fuck do you mean we need to see him be a jerk? Is viciously screaming abput murdering poor people not seeing someone be a jerk? Again, what in the fuck is wrong with you
@commander31able60
@commander31able60 5 жыл бұрын
Instead of doing this “timeless” crap they ought to have done an actual modern take on Robin Hood, Sherlock-style. It would probably look like a romantic John Wick.
@le0820
@le0820 3 жыл бұрын
The arrow?
@TheSupinesmokey
@TheSupinesmokey 3 жыл бұрын
@@le0820 The Green Arrow would be cool as a film
@samiam7327
@samiam7327 3 жыл бұрын
That might work
@delsinrowe2014
@delsinrowe2014 Жыл бұрын
That actually sounds badass
@firecrushfox
@firecrushfox 5 жыл бұрын
Having not seen the film myself, watching those Afghanistan scenes I legitimately thought this was a modern-take on Robin Hood and I somehow fever-dreamed the medieval-looking trailers I watched. I mean the dude's are almost literally wearing kevlar vests which are BARELY made out to look like leather armour or something.
@QixTheDS
@QixTheDS 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. It wasn’t even explicitly clear in the actual movie for a hot minute.
@RoxasNobody000
@RoxasNobody000 5 жыл бұрын
Are we really forgetting something important? We have seen too many "Robin Hood" movies. If they wanted to change this story to be more interesting they should have done something more interesting than some crappy anachronistic elements.
@Petey0707
@Petey0707 5 жыл бұрын
lmao robin hood represents anarchy so those elements are sort of essential
@RoxasNobody000
@RoxasNobody000 5 жыл бұрын
@@Petey0707 Not exactly what I was saying. www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anachronism
@Restless_Hermit80
@Restless_Hermit80 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't. I haven't felt the need to see anything after Robin Hood Men in Tights xP Prince of Thieves is still my favourite, because it's hilarious.
@Restless_Hermit80
@Restless_Hermit80 5 жыл бұрын
Also Prince of Thieves has the best music by Michael Kamen.
@TopGunZero
@TopGunZero 5 жыл бұрын
There is nothing wrong with the Robin Hood story, if done well, it is compelling and interesting. Though it ironically lost my interest, King Arthur just had a British tv series that went on for 4 years focusing on Merlin largely. This is where I think you're right that if you change things slightly or take a different approach it can be interesting. Look at the series Sherlock that was very successful.
@TheBeird
@TheBeird 5 жыл бұрын
What the hell is everyone wearing?
@Fedorevsky
@Fedorevsky 5 жыл бұрын
Post modern shit.
@REALmikegordan
@REALmikegordan 5 жыл бұрын
I've already stated this, but apparently, the film was supposed to be a dystopian sci-fi before changing the setting back to medieval times while changing literally nothing else. Just replace the guns with crossbows, and the motor vehicles with carriages.
@HateshWarkio
@HateshWarkio 5 жыл бұрын
@@REALmikegordan it shows. I've got such a dystopian future vibe from all of those scenes.
@merod7313
@merod7313 4 жыл бұрын
@@REALmikegordan they should have just made it a modern Robin hood and replace the bows with ars or Modern tactical bow and armor
@Subscribeeveryone
@Subscribeeveryone 4 жыл бұрын
60$ DLC Outfit pack
@coffeefrog
@coffeefrog 5 жыл бұрын
You know a medieval movie is bad if the women wear makeup and the villains wear sci-fi coats. That is all.
@randumpotato
@randumpotato 5 жыл бұрын
I agree w/your latter statement, but women have been wearing makeup since the Egyptians. Thought it would mostly be worn by nobles, and those at large eventsz
@metawarp7446
@metawarp7446 5 жыл бұрын
@@randumpotato And "since" doesn't mean it was done everywhere from this point on...
@randumpotato
@randumpotato 5 жыл бұрын
Metateoria I literally specified that people (usually the rich) would wear it at large events. Post-Roman Europe would’ve been more keen to makeup as the trade routes the empire built made dyes more accessible. Now do you have something useful to say, or are you just here to argue?
@coffeefrog
@coffeefrog 5 жыл бұрын
Wow uh... okay. Chill, please. People wore makeup to varying degrees depending on the time and place; stylized makeup wasn't a popular look during the high middle ages in western Europe. Regardless, I think it was pretty clear that I was implying modern style makeup.
@randumpotato
@randumpotato 5 жыл бұрын
coffeefrog If you’re replying to someone who is talking about olden makeup, and don’t specify then that’s you’re fault my guy
@movieexpert18
@movieexpert18 5 жыл бұрын
One last note, if you have the two friends walking away scene at the end of the film then you failed because you inadvertently gave it a buddy comedy feel, because in comedies the characters who feel so accomplished with themselves do that. It's practically a strut and therefore it loses any sense of depth the movie could have had. I mean your having your main characters commit murder and strut away like kids who just beat the bully what is that.
@endlesswaffles6504
@endlesswaffles6504 5 жыл бұрын
Why are they wearing modern clothes in Robin Hood?
@gasmonkey1000
@gasmonkey1000 5 жыл бұрын
Endless Waffles The makers of that movie are demonstrably SJW's, and SJW's are uncreative unless it means trying to hurt others.
@dimitriosmakropoulos8641
@dimitriosmakropoulos8641 5 жыл бұрын
Black is the new Lincoln Green.
@redforest9269
@redforest9269 5 жыл бұрын
Some who first watched the trailers theorized the movie was actually post-apocalyptic, but judging by what I've seen it was probably just to make up for the bad writing.
@NAME-yg8sl
@NAME-yg8sl 3 жыл бұрын
I only found out it was in midevil times but reading this comments
@daniellipko710
@daniellipko710 5 жыл бұрын
Is this supposed to be like a post-9/11, anti-American imperialism version of Robin Hood? All of the characters look like they’re dressed in pretty modern clothing, the English soldiers look like American soldiers (I think I even saw some black Englishmen, in a medieval European army...) and the bows function basically like guns
@ZenPa1344
@ZenPa1344 5 жыл бұрын
@joseph davisson yeah though the various inhabitants usually ended up killing each other so having black longbowmen using his weapon in full draw for minutes at time while crossing narrow arabic stresst is rather impossible...
@vladimiradidas1945
@vladimiradidas1945 5 жыл бұрын
@Elisa Castro how is this movie "pro-antifa?" Thats the dumbest thing I've heard about this movie yet. If You're talking about the whole "steal for the rich and give it to thw poor" aspect of it, then you're wrong. Robin Hood has ALWAYS been known to be like that. This isn't anything new.
@manueldelahoz
@manueldelahoz 5 жыл бұрын
This conversation is far more serious than the actual film. The producers don't know when the movie was set :p
@TopGunZero
@TopGunZero 5 жыл бұрын
How does this have 43 thumbs up?
@vladimiradidas1945
@vladimiradidas1945 5 жыл бұрын
@SavetheFantasticFour you got any source for that? That got me interested.
@MarkyMatey
@MarkyMatey 5 жыл бұрын
Robin hood isn't a hard character to get right.
@dafilmqueen556
@dafilmqueen556 5 жыл бұрын
But is acting the part easy?
@gorkemaykut5230
@gorkemaykut5230 4 жыл бұрын
@@dafilmqueen556 I mean, you gotta work harder to fuck it up tbh
@mauriciorojas1498
@mauriciorojas1498 5 жыл бұрын
According to the clothes in which age they're supposed to be?
@oldaccount8428
@oldaccount8428 5 жыл бұрын
Thats the same problem with king Arthur, you dont know the time in which the story take place.
@kinnykiran
@kinnykiran 5 жыл бұрын
Garbage
@somethingsomethingsomethin9009
@somethingsomethingsomethin9009 5 жыл бұрын
Was watching the vid and thought the exact same thing. Something well after the 2010 AD mark
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 5 жыл бұрын
The same period when Monty Python and the Holy Grail took place.
@lisazoria2709
@lisazoria2709 5 жыл бұрын
Late 90's early 2000's Disney World. Duh.
@1KosovoJeSrbija1
@1KosovoJeSrbija1 4 жыл бұрын
is it just me or does the "crusade" scene look allot like modern wars in the middle east... complete with "rpg styled" "multi arrow launchers" and modern looking armour vests.
@joehonan1773
@joehonan1773 4 жыл бұрын
Robin of Loxley "OH NO! I've been drafted! How Horrible!" Me: "You do realize you are a lord in a Feudal system. The entire reason you were given your lands was to train and equip yourself for war."
@becky3983
@becky3983 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. No internal logic. The whole function of the feudal vassal was to fight. If he didn't like it, he couldn't have spent his whole life happily enjoying the perks of it. Looks more ungrateful than anything else.
@Buck_1337
@Buck_1337 5 жыл бұрын
Your analysis on story is superb. Dont listen to those angry kids telling you that you are wrong without providing counter evidence themselves. Love your channel. Keep it up
@jordanMJK
@jordanMJK 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed my bruddah
@aurelbajrami4088
@aurelbajrami4088 5 жыл бұрын
So agreed that's why Hollywood makes shitty product movies, cos of kids watching mediocre movies like venom
@hephaestus9901
@hephaestus9901 5 жыл бұрын
@@aurelbajrami4088 they are misguided by their subjective opinion,venom was so liked because of the relatshionship between tom hardy and venom
@Buck_1337
@Buck_1337 5 жыл бұрын
@@resurrectedsunlight155 thx for the comparison. I'm honored lol
@streetfalkos
@streetfalkos 5 жыл бұрын
@@aurelbajrami4088 kids watching mediocre movies like venom....yeah....after watching clilps from ur channel i took a bath. Dont tell other what to like or not to like until u can make good content kid :)
@cagriy6238
@cagriy6238 5 жыл бұрын
war scenes seem like COD with bow and arrow
@CasteloBranc0
@CasteloBranc0 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly? i can't believe you're not renowned all over the world. I'm completely in love with your work, every video i watch i learn something new. I was the type of person watched movies, didn't liked that particular one but couldn't explain why it was bad, and you are opening the borders of my mind. Keep it up with the good content!
@doryfishie2
@doryfishie2 5 жыл бұрын
Men In Tights was the better Robin Hood film
@becky3983
@becky3983 4 жыл бұрын
So true. I love Men in Tights, it's hilarious. Not seen this movie, but just from this video it looks boring and generic and with no charm or unique qualities and not a trace of uniqueness.
@Hk-ox4bb
@Hk-ox4bb 4 жыл бұрын
@@becky3983 to be fair, this channel is built upon criticizing movies and showing where they failed Any movie seems bad when this happens
@becky3983
@becky3983 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hk-ox4bb True, but with this film particularly there's something about the setting. I find the Medaevil setting of Robin Hood-- even if not all the writers are accurate all the time-- part of the charm of the story. It adds historical context and flavour and detail and a backdrop. And this film seems to have transplanted him from England during the Crusades to Generic Action Movie Setting Number 43 or whatever. It just looks, idk...bland
@Hk-ox4bb
@Hk-ox4bb 4 жыл бұрын
@@becky3983 it looks bad imo as well, don’t get me wrong, and I hate badly done medieval settings (fantasy is different) but I’d still watch the movie if I wanted to make a fair comparison
@becky3983
@becky3983 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hk-ox4bb True. Doubt it could compare to Men in Tights though, because Men in Tights was just brilliant. One of the best Robin Hood adaptations ever and it's a parody
@Mimi-qe7qz
@Mimi-qe7qz 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao i remembered watching this and thinking "oh alright hes gonna be like spiderman, incapacitates people and steal the money" *proceeds to do genocide* "Ah alright then..."
@mrkiky
@mrkiky 5 жыл бұрын
The guards have helmets that cover their entire face to dehumanize them and establish that they are mindless and soulless drones that obey every command of the evil antagonist. So killing them without a thought is ok!
@Lindyn773
@Lindyn773 4 жыл бұрын
The art design choices for outfits, makeup, sets and props makes me unreasonably mad. Why is his wanted picture an ink printout like that? The inkpress wasn't even around when he was alive and it most definitely did not look like a mid 2000's design.
@HeresorLegacy
@HeresorLegacy 5 жыл бұрын
They should have taken the Sweeney Todd route and have the Sheriff court Marianne. As he sees that Robin is hitting on her as well and the feelings are mutual, he decides to draft Robin for the war to get rid of him. Bam. Conflict. Or make Robin's best friend fall for Marianne at first and get him drafted while Robin vows to her to protect her lover. And then he gets killed in the war, giving Robin a grudge against the Sheriff. Seriously. How hard is it for professional screenwriters to write some compelling conflict? edit: seems like we got the same idea...
@aimeebason9732
@aimeebason9732 4 жыл бұрын
Robin hood Prince of Thieves gets this right. I'd still take it over this travesty of a film
@DanielDiaz-um1xd
@DanielDiaz-um1xd 5 жыл бұрын
Showing the Disney sherriff just reminds of the chicken playing rugby with the guards
@chadschmaltz9790
@chadschmaltz9790 5 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the trailer for this movie and thinking the visuals created a complete mashup of time periods. It erased any interest I had in this movie. Also where is Little John, Friar Tuck, and the other merry men? Sure Robin is the main character but he didn't act alone in the original story.
@SamuelGalvan_
@SamuelGalvan_ 4 жыл бұрын
I mean you did have John and the priest. They were there. That’s who they’re meant to be I’m pretty sure.
@becky3983
@becky3983 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamuelGalvan_ Much the Miller's son? Will Scarlet?
@SamuelGalvan_
@SamuelGalvan_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@becky3983 got me there. That ending is pretty clear sequel set up though. They were probably planning exploring other characters then.
@becky3983
@becky3983 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamuelGalvan_ True, they probably thought it would have a sequel, sequels are very popular these days.
@KesselRunner606
@KesselRunner606 5 жыл бұрын
I recently rewatched the classic Adventures of Robin Hood with Errol Flynn, and while some aspects of the movie are a bit dated (no-one in the Middle Ages ever gets muddy, and Sherwood Forest look a hell of a lot like southern California) it's still a rip roaring, tongue-in-cheek action movie. The script is really sharp ("You speak treason!" --- "Fluently."), the cinematography and direction are wonderful, and the climactic duel between Flynn and Basil Rathbone (hands down, two of the finest swordsmen ever to be on film) is still one of The best fight scenes ever choreographed and shot on screen. (Not to mention that many of the stunt men were being shot with *real* arrows.) But at its core, it's an exciting, well made action adventure movie, with colourful, larger than life characters, that makes you feel like a kid again and go off and climb a tree, or pick up a stick and play like it's a sword. Robin Hood is a classic action hero. There's enough in his centuries old story to tell, and *still* be relevant. You need to "Tell the untold story" or throw on some rediculously anachronistic costumes, snort a line of charley, and try and be all trendy, deep and edgy. Just make a movie that people would say "They don't make them like that anymore" to their kids.
@whywasimadetofeelnothingbu1991
@whywasimadetofeelnothingbu1991 5 жыл бұрын
When I first saw the trailer for this movie, I thought it was some sci-fi time traveling movie like the Assassin's Creed game.
@boj5k
@boj5k 5 жыл бұрын
The directors wanted to modernize Robin Hood. Obviously audiences didn't take well to the modernization of the classic and i think that's also why along with the horrible motivations the movie became a failure. Without the modernization the movie probably would've gotten higher ratings due to the nostalgia factor.
@ChildrenOfRadiation
@ChildrenOfRadiation 5 жыл бұрын
By the looks of it, it was modernized awfully, that's the problem.
@geohiekim8705
@geohiekim8705 5 жыл бұрын
if it was done right classics can be modernized wonderfully, like Sherlock. if done wrong, you get... this.
@hellhammerCCCP
@hellhammerCCCP 5 жыл бұрын
Why do people like how Game of thrones looks but not this?
@creed8712
@creed8712 5 жыл бұрын
boj5k if he wanted to modernize Robin Hood he should have asked DC if he could make a Green Arrow movie
@boj5k
@boj5k 5 жыл бұрын
@@creed8712 the way he modernized it, Green arrow would be ten hundred times better. But you can still modernized old films and make them different you just have to work at making them different and special.
@Distain_Gaming
@Distain_Gaming 4 жыл бұрын
Is this literally just CW's Arrow set in the middle ages with a Legend of the Sword snapchat filter and totally incoherent writing?
@katherinealvarez9216
@katherinealvarez9216 5 жыл бұрын
Others: Man, I loved Venom. Me: Me too! Others: It is a good movie! The critics were wrong! Me:.. Me: Just let me enjoy my garbage fire, okay?
@MelfickVaragon
@MelfickVaragon 5 жыл бұрын
My father is a medieval archery teacher and we talked about this film. The conclusion: there is close to no historical accuracy. Such as, arabic bows are glued with water-based glue. They fall apart within days when brought back in england.
@mertarican5456
@mertarican5456 4 жыл бұрын
Damn that knowladge is so cool ur dad is cool o.o
@gvd72
@gvd72 4 жыл бұрын
Not to defend the movie but are you seriously complaining about historical accuracy in a story that is complete fake folklore? What about the historical accuracy in the other versions of Robin Hood?
@gorkemaykut5230
@gorkemaykut5230 4 жыл бұрын
@@gvd72 it would still be more accurate than this movie
@MouldMadeMind
@MouldMadeMind 3 жыл бұрын
@@gvd72 that is no excuse, the story and characters are fiction, the places and time period not.
@becky3983
@becky3983 3 жыл бұрын
@@gvd72 The first mention of Robin Hood in a ballad is from 1450, it's not just made up by screenwriters. If that's not genuine folklore, how do you define genuine folklore?
@MrGlenbw
@MrGlenbw 5 жыл бұрын
10:01 - Maybe this new 'sheriff' is meant to be set up as the (nonexistent) sequel's antagonist, I guess? 🤷
@albertschoise8091
@albertschoise8091 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe?
@commandercat10
@commandercat10 3 жыл бұрын
Probably?
@ThrottleKitty
@ThrottleKitty 5 жыл бұрын
When furries did your movie better.
@kmanc8571
@kmanc8571 5 жыл бұрын
lol the furry robin hood is probably the best interpretation I've seen so far
@ThrottleKitty
@ThrottleKitty 5 жыл бұрын
Totally! They featured this comment in one of videos after this, so apparently the guys at Filmento agree! ...or at least thought it was funny! :D
@randomsquidproductions4061
@randomsquidproductions4061 5 жыл бұрын
Not to mention men in tights
@burtbiggum499
@burtbiggum499 5 жыл бұрын
Furries belong on a cross
@kyotheman69
@kyotheman69 5 жыл бұрын
its still best version
@Visteus
@Visteus 5 жыл бұрын
Why is the villain wearing a sci-fi trench coat that I swear I've seen in Hunger Games or something?
@Parasprites
@Parasprites 5 жыл бұрын
i like how people prioritize visual spectacle and box office dollars over objectively looking at venom's really bad opening
@Matthew-zx8cs
@Matthew-zx8cs 5 жыл бұрын
Can’t ignore the fact that this movie was also a visual and tonal mess. The director clearly wanted to make a modern war story and just gave it a midevil skin. Plus some not so subtle political leanings on display in the red masks and riot shields warn by the sheriffs men and the good guys wearing blue masks.
@albertschoise8091
@albertschoise8091 5 жыл бұрын
Red is an agressive colour (and in some cultures the colour of death) and blue is a very passive, i dont see how its political
@Madrigal025
@Madrigal025 5 жыл бұрын
Also please take note that only in America is red a political color of conservatives and blue a political color of liberals.
@Mr_BobAFeet
@Mr_BobAFeet 4 жыл бұрын
By that argument, star wars has been making that same statement since 1977? Give me a break dude
@RealCoolGuy
@RealCoolGuy 4 жыл бұрын
@@Madrigal025 I live in America and I never heard those colour associations.
@notahotshot
@notahotshot 4 жыл бұрын
@@RealCoolGuy, how long have you lived in America? Red and blue have been used to designate Republican vs Democrat for quite some time. It's been consistently red for Republican and blue for Democrat since about 2000. Before that the colors flipped, or other colors were used. It began as a visual aid in news reporting, to show viewers which party won in what state, and as an indicator on ballots for non English speaking voters. Before that red and blue was used on maps to designate Union vs Confederate territories/troop movements. States are often referred to as red States and blue States, this referred to which political party is predominate in that state. Now, people are constantly saying things like, "remember to vote blue at election time". So, I'll ask again, how long have you lived in America?
@SixDasher
@SixDasher 5 жыл бұрын
Robin hood is wearing polyester bodywarmers and it looks like it was filmed low-budget... Also just don't like the actor.
@Entedeficción
@Entedeficción 5 жыл бұрын
Those hairstyles (from the XX century) killed me. 😡
@cyagen9782
@cyagen9782 4 жыл бұрын
Man, I would love to look at any movie with you and discuss it afterward. You make very good points about storytelling, which is a big weakness in today's cinema.
@IcePhysicsGaming
@IcePhysicsGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Did suits like the one that the Sheriff of Nottingham wore exist back then? It looks out of place to me.
@sambakich7494
@sambakich7494 5 жыл бұрын
Nope. Not even slightly. Look at period manuscript illuminations. And my profile picture.
@torbjornlekberg7756
@torbjornlekberg7756 5 жыл бұрын
It, and alot of other things, are out of place. There are far too many modern elements mixed in, for some odd reason.
@JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw
@JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw 5 жыл бұрын
Of course not, just an artistic choice
@cognitivedissonance8406
@cognitivedissonance8406 5 жыл бұрын
@@JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw Yes. A bad one.
@JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw
@JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw 5 жыл бұрын
+@@cognitivedissonance8406 agree
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty 5 жыл бұрын
Why does Robin Hood look like it has a poor college student's budget and raided said college student's room for the costumes? How does Robin Hood Men In Tights manage to look more historical than this thing?
@strikeforce1500
@strikeforce1500 5 жыл бұрын
So let me get this clear, the Sheriff was turn evil for doing his job… eh... Wat?. At least tell me he got to power by corrupted means or something like that. Also just me or, Robin looks like an edgy guy rather than a charismatic person
@redc7146
@redc7146 4 жыл бұрын
"Don't listen to this guy, listen to the box office" is not a valid argument in a society where the Star Wars sequels exist.
@mytwosense9135
@mytwosense9135 3 жыл бұрын
Or Transformers
@ramvxxr867
@ramvxxr867 4 жыл бұрын
The english son killer should've been the one promoted to being the sheriff of the town, this gives a reason for foxx and eggsy to kill him and having foxx seek vengeance for his son after the hardships he had to endure.
@Butzebaer
@Butzebaer 5 жыл бұрын
It that thing a "Robin Hood in the Present"-Kinda Deal or are the costumes and scenery just that "bad"?
@redforest9269
@redforest9269 5 жыл бұрын
We probably wish it was post-apocalyptic as theorized by people who saw the trailer.
@juliendacoolien3454
@juliendacoolien3454 4 жыл бұрын
@@redforest9269 At least that would've been an interesting take. Too bad it's just that the filmmakers are incompetent.
@paunaic5460
@paunaic5460 3 жыл бұрын
It seems they had wanted to do a sci-fy future but later changed their minds by only replacing setting, cars and guns with arrows. It would have worked (barely) if it had at least been acknowledged by the people in the universe, but nah, they just are there.
@jordanMJK
@jordanMJK 5 жыл бұрын
While I do feel like there is A LOT more things wrong with venom than just the prologue, I can see what your saying
@360Effects
@360Effects 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing my shot while talking about nice visuals at 1.04 ! I was the VFX artist on that shot also did a bunch if the treasury heist shots!
@anyaklum8757
@anyaklum8757 5 жыл бұрын
So basically Jamie Fox should have been Inigo Montoya ...yeah I’m down
@redforest9269
@redforest9269 5 жыл бұрын
More like "Hello, my name is Domingo Montoya. You killed my son, prepare to die."
@kevinkelly5780
@kevinkelly5780 4 жыл бұрын
Someone told the wardrobe dept that they were remaking Bladerunner. That's the only excuse for the Sheriff or Notingham's clothes
@gaspy9760
@gaspy9760 5 жыл бұрын
Now I can say it's been a fulfilling day
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how good this movie would've been if it was advertised as Thief instead of another Robin Hood movie, still a turd is still a turd no matter how you show case it;P
@manueldelahoz
@manueldelahoz 5 жыл бұрын
They wanted to use the name Robin Hood but they didnt want filmed Robin Hood, The same movie with a different name add a Litle of Magik instead of súper bow AND super crossbow would have been More commercialy succesful ( excuse my english)
@tubester358
@tubester358 5 жыл бұрын
It might've done better, especially with the Iggy actor. Like Kingsman it could've been remembered as a new IP (or a Thief adaptation, whatever works) with some badass bow-fu action and shiny costumes, but being Robin Hood it'll be remembered as a confused adaptation of that.
@chris9206
@chris9206 5 жыл бұрын
Manu If thats the case you really haven't seen any of the Robin Hood movies along with King Arthur movies.
@jamesstricklerii5384
@jamesstricklerii5384 4 жыл бұрын
You basically just described remaking the intro to this movie more like "The Count of Monte Cristo"...
@vlr4631
@vlr4631 5 жыл бұрын
I would love if the regisseurs would at least give the script to dudes like you to check so we get way less bad movies. Love your work mate. Keep it up!
@notahotshot
@notahotshot 4 жыл бұрын
Anatomy of a Failure: Venom "What? Venom wasn't a failure." "Thank you for pointing that out. Now, let's look at how Robin Hood fails in the same way Venom did." 👍
@JayFolipurba
@JayFolipurba 4 жыл бұрын
what the hell is this movie's aesthetic? Medieval futuristic? the "villain's" car leather coat is the worst, doesn't fir into the medieval-like setting at all
@rodcab2973
@rodcab2973 4 жыл бұрын
The core problem lies in Robin Hood's lack of green tights.
@dvn9890
@dvn9890 2 жыл бұрын
your videos really help with structuring my writing thx for the help because the start is super important and hard to tackle sometimes
@tapiokursula9675
@tapiokursula9675 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video, my Krakozhian brother. Long live Krakozhia!
@bloodrunsclear
@bloodrunsclear 5 жыл бұрын
This is another weird instance of highjacking the story for a political reason. Robin Hood begins with Europeans armed with bows only and wearing armored vests, complete with anachronistic combat knives. They fight street to street with turban wearing Muslims. GET IT??? THE IRAQ WAR!!!! This same issue made Prince of Persia stupid too, having a lie about 'weapons of mass destruction' (swords for some reason) leading to the invasion of an Arabic country by an evil empire. It's not only nonsensical in a historical sense, it's so on the nose people who politically agree don't care and people who don't are annoyed. It's sound and fury signifying nothing.
@LumosX
@LumosX 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen PoP twice (I like it, so what?), and I don't recall anything about "weapons of mass destruction". If I remember correctly, Ben Kingsley simply lied that the city had been selling weapons to some other enemy after declaring itself neutral. Besides, the plot of the film wasn't (as) incompetent as this one's seems to be.
@bloodrunsclear
@bloodrunsclear 5 жыл бұрын
@@LumosX 'Swords of the best workmanship. Steel tipped arrows. Orders for more from the warlord Kosh.' Basically the same thing. The plot wasn't nearly as good as the actual game...
@TopGunZero
@TopGunZero 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure if serious?
@bloodrunsclear
@bloodrunsclear 5 жыл бұрын
@@TopGunZero Pretty serious. Robin is even drafted into the military which is hilarious because that was a 20th century invention!
@TopGunZero
@TopGunZero 5 жыл бұрын
@@bloodrunsclear Look up the word conscription...
@markparkinson6378
@markparkinson6378 5 жыл бұрын
That’s a good thumbnail. Great, even!
@chrismoney9101
@chrismoney9101 5 жыл бұрын
This movie was one of the most badlarious things I’ve seen in years. It starts with Robin getting an old timey parchment with the words “Draft Notice” on it. Amazing! From the war scenes where they’re running around with longbows checking corners and taking out rapid fire ballista nests to the sherif’s guards with riot shields and rapid fire crossbows with ammo clips, this movie was AMAZING(ly bad)!
@sydgriffiths1237
@sydgriffiths1237 4 жыл бұрын
With those costumes, I thought this movie were a post-apo storie on a world where the world got destroyed and electricity is a memory of the past, but they gotta keep being fashion ya know
@electricVGC
@electricVGC 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are really good at developing issues and explaining why I had issues with movies subconsciously, love watching your content.
@darkparker7500
@darkparker7500 5 жыл бұрын
If the entirety of Act I is the Prologue, then from that perspective, the entirety of Act III is the Epilogue. This cannot be the case because the Epilogue cannot contain the climax of the film, or story for that matter. The Epilogue in storytelling comes after the climax, at the end of Act III. These scenes are referred to in filmmaking as the Resolution, which can be made up of one or more scenes, all depending on the execution of the story. The Prologue section is part of Act I, but not the entirety of Act I. It takes place before the Inciting Incident, which is either an event or a number of events that throw the Protagonist's world out of order or equilibrium.
@mhbjarkistef
@mhbjarkistef 5 жыл бұрын
I love it when a movie analysis recuts the source material and fixes the problem. I'm here on a binge thanks to your Queen video. Cheers
@lukebatchelor717
@lukebatchelor717 4 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness someone made this movie before Disney. Now that it's already ruined we don't have to make another one. Please?
@p.davidcress4600
@p.davidcress4600 4 жыл бұрын
Hey dude. Your videos are awesome and your points are super well reasoned. I watched the whole anatomy of a failure playlist yesterday and there was a Lot in it that I hadn't considered, but nothing I disagreed with. Keep going man, these are awesomely well thought out n well made.
@eevee1583
@eevee1583 5 жыл бұрын
Something about these review videos are somehow relaxing. Maybe it's your voice
@DavidCEberhartII
@DavidCEberhartII 4 жыл бұрын
The funny part about your review and your ways to fix the movie is that you described all the major plot points of Kevin Costner's Robin hood from the eighties.
@batts1532
@batts1532 5 жыл бұрын
Looks to modern also, some of the scenes looked like a 21 century night club. Just didn't have a med-evil feel to it, he looked more like a Nazi than a sheriff in England. Totally no atmosphere because of this.
@kevaughnmerrill6534
@kevaughnmerrill6534 4 жыл бұрын
Y'all are hating on the costumes but imo this is one of the most charming and interesting aspects of the film. The whole design aesthetic is this weird future/ medieval/ fantasy that reminds me of King Arthur LotS. The movie isn't very good but at least it has a clear style. The crew weren't trying to be true to history at all. Russell Crowe already tried that.
@kevinkelly5780
@kevinkelly5780 4 жыл бұрын
Why would an English longbowman be using a Turkish bow? That's the equivalent of a man training his whole life to use an AR15 and then going into battle with a .22 pocket pistol
@commandercat10
@commandercat10 3 жыл бұрын
I just checked and 22 pocket pistols are tiny as hell
@TevinWaiguru
@TevinWaiguru 5 жыл бұрын
This was amazingly done! Your points were put out well and your final fix would have actually made the film a lot more enjoyable. You should put a video out on how you analyse a movie, i.e what cocktail of pointers you look for whenever you go watch one, or even your 'top book recommendations' on what makes good cinema.
@pdzombie1906
@pdzombie1906 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I skipped this film so I could watch your insightful analysis (too bad I couldn't do the same for Venom and almost blinded myself with that turd). Thanx!!!
@rabbitpirate
@rabbitpirate 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion they should have scrapped the whole “robin hood” part of it entirely and focused on the war movie part of it, which was by far the best part of the film and something we hadn’t really seen before, a historical war movie with a distinctly modern feel.
@Marveryn
@Marveryn 5 жыл бұрын
personally I thought the film was the failure when I notice that the arrow were magic. I mean how do you explain the instant kills through armor and the half pull back to launch them.
@MouseDenton
@MouseDenton 5 жыл бұрын
I have to thank the first prologue in the middle east for immediately setting the tone. At first I thought this would be another gritty reimagining of an old story, but I was suddenly watching American Sniper for a few minutes--complete with a danger-close artillery barrage. Let me throw my expectations out the window (until Ben Mendelsohn brought some of them back with that neat moment of characterization).
@xeno2752
@xeno2752 4 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or do all the costume designs, haistyles, make up and props look strangely modern and out of place for a medieval movie? It is almost painful to watch.
@mttkra
@mttkra 4 жыл бұрын
@Steven Makell I was laughing during the clips OP showed because their camera framing, prop destruction and actor body language was ripped 1:1 from the Matrix's Lobby scene. It's hilarious. It's like they're trying to make a political film, but they're exaggerating it so much it feels like satire. How did they pitch this to the producers? It's such a difficult concept to get right, and it's just so, so bad.
@wizgi7201
@wizgi7201 4 жыл бұрын
The costumes makes it feel more like a final fantasy 7 semi futuristic world more than medieval
@dragonbornexpress5650
@dragonbornexpress5650 5 ай бұрын
Granted that would be a cool take on the story, but this definitely ain't it.
@chazzs2209
@chazzs2209 5 жыл бұрын
Nah man dont listen to those fan boys. Venom was shit, through and through, almost every minute of that movie was terrible.
@iiitechnoduckxx3526
@iiitechnoduckxx3526 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think writers find these reviews and go, "damn...I coulda been a champion..."
@Baiswith
@Baiswith 5 жыл бұрын
omg...it's kingsmen: origins edit: also, cleanest middle ages ever, everything feels so ~modern~, especially the costume style/choices
@yohannbiimu
@yohannbiimu 5 жыл бұрын
There's a legend of Robin Hood that entails his having MANY friends and close relationships with lots of characters. This movie scraps ALL of them and replaces them with Jamey Fox. WTF!
@anajaimes4420
@anajaimes4420 5 жыл бұрын
... Am i the only one that likes the costumes? Not the Sherif's dear god not that one's terrible but like just this interesting mix of Old and modern clothing. like... i don't know it looks interesting. it'd be nice to see it in a film that did good with it
@nicole910305
@nicole910305 5 жыл бұрын
I also like the costumes, but not in this movie...they just look so out of place and awful...But in a post-apocalyptic setting or a complete fantasy setting they would look cool.
@chrisossu2070
@chrisossu2070 5 жыл бұрын
The problem is that the costumes (and sets for that matter) are completely anachronistic to the setting the movie is supposed to take place in. It looks like it takes place in a science fantasy setting like Star Wars rather than Medieval Europe.
@blackychouette
@blackychouette 5 жыл бұрын
🤯 That music argument just blew my mind..
@ReedRichardsPhD
@ReedRichardsPhD 5 жыл бұрын
Tbh, I feel like King Arthur: The Legend of Something is better...........just a bit *just a bit.......*
@Peak_Antelope
@Peak_Antelope 5 жыл бұрын
Really? I quite liked the movie. Could be more fleshed out though. Edit: I was talking about King Arthur.
@lilyrae6683
@lilyrae6683 4 жыл бұрын
Robin Hood (2010) with Russell Crowe and Cate Blanchett was my all time favorite take on the story.
@neeluephoto1338
@neeluephoto1338 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t they hire someone like you at These studios to set them straight ? Clearly they should!
@unuseranonyme
@unuseranonyme 4 жыл бұрын
In the last part, the more you say how to make the prologue better, the more I was thinking "just make the same story than Robin Hood Prince of Thieves"
@Dismythed
@Dismythed 4 жыл бұрын
Great rewrite. But there's one thing you didn't cover that is really bad: the puketacular anachronistic costume design.
@RustyGorbi
@RustyGorbi 3 жыл бұрын
I have no clue about writing but I swear by watching your videos or other youtubers (like the Critical Drinker) I think I have learned enough about storytelling and character development to come up with better scripts than what hollywood is shitting out these days.
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