NHL Stars Who REFUSED To Play For Their Team

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Rob Talks Hockey

Rob Talks Hockey

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@RobTalksHockey
@RobTalksHockey 3 жыл бұрын
Has your team ever had a player who refused to play?! And who won the Jack Eichel Trade?
@HatsuneChiYu
@HatsuneChiYu 3 жыл бұрын
No, everyone wants to play for Montreal, everyone knows that...
@floridaman735
@floridaman735 3 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Drouin didn’t really want to play in Tampa after getting sent down to the minors. That was a weird time period for me…
@floridaman735
@floridaman735 3 жыл бұрын
@@HatsuneChiYu I want to argue with you, but I can’t, it’s so true! 😂
@Zarylover47
@Zarylover47 3 жыл бұрын
Adam Fox Calgary
@FrankTheTank3388
@FrankTheTank3388 3 жыл бұрын
Blake Wheeler refused to sign with Phoenix after being drafted and signed with Boston.
@DerikNotDerek
@DerikNotDerek 3 жыл бұрын
The “NCAA” route should be called the “New York Rangers” route
@Bbistheman_
@Bbistheman_ 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad only Hayes and Fox were good
@TQuong
@TQuong 3 жыл бұрын
@@ITDBruins ya that was all in the video dude
@AshtrayAnnie
@AshtrayAnnie 3 жыл бұрын
Call it whatever, Adam Fox can be the second best defensemen his whole career, next to Makar. But he will always lose a lot of respect from most true hockey fans. If you refuse to sign with whoever drafted you. You're just another spoiled kid who should've never made it. I guess it's not surprising he was a Harvard guy, and most likely a trust fund kid. I hope he never wins a Cup out of spite for refusing to sign with the team who drafted you and had the most amount of faith in you, by drafting you before anyone else did. Not to mention, that Norris he won last year should've been Makars🤣🤣🤣✌️. This almost only happens with American players. Imagine if Canadians did the same thing and went to their favourite Canadian teams.....all the sudden the NHL would make a rule, cause the Cup would NEVER leave Canada. That's just a fact.
@ITDBruins
@ITDBruins 3 жыл бұрын
@@AshtrayAnnie Not necessary true. John Elway was a first overall pick in the NFL and refused to sign with the Colts when he was drafted. He then got signed by Denver and became their best QB ever. Even sticking with Hockey, i think most true hockey fans respect Eric Lindros (except the ones in Quebec) I think you're just a Flames fan
@AshtrayAnnie
@AshtrayAnnie 3 жыл бұрын
@@ITDBruinsK, that football talk is totally irrelevant, with totally different rules and regulations. lol and I'm the furthest thing from a flames fan. I just pride myself on having integrity, and I have a huge respect for people who have the same. Eric Lindros was one of the only Canadians to ever do this (not to mention he forced the hand, in a way different spectacle) and if you do your research on the actual subject you'll see why he refused to sign. That's a big difference from Adam Fox who would literally only sign for one team. 🤣. Imagine if players from Toronto did that. Toronto would never lose, and Americans would have the worst hockey teams in the NHL. That's just a FACT.
@Dylan_6469
@Dylan_6469 3 жыл бұрын
Sabres firing the wrong person is something I would do in NHL franchise mode
@cobalt6128
@cobalt6128 3 жыл бұрын
Forget the other guys, the way the Canucks lost Bure is just unacceptable on so many levels. That was the guy that could've taken you to the promised land, and that's how you treat him? Absolutely despicable management. I'm sure the entire Canucks fanbase would love to just erase the Messier era out of the history books completely because holy shit, was it ever a terrible time to be a Nucks' fan.
@Tridgit
@Tridgit 2 жыл бұрын
as a nucklehead fan.... you right.
@TC-dw6wg
@TC-dw6wg Жыл бұрын
Let’s go Rangers! 😂
@chazzstasiuk7572
@chazzstasiuk7572 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say Eichel “refused” to play rather so the management just are complete idiots and forced Eichel to not play for them after not allowing him to get his preferred surgery. And I only say he didn’t “refuse” because he said he still would’ve played for Buffalo he they let him get his preferred surgery. So not so much a refusal to play but more so got forced out
@kx4998
@kx4998 3 жыл бұрын
I would say refuse is the right word but it is a very good reason to refuse.
@chazzstasiuk7572
@chazzstasiuk7572 3 жыл бұрын
@@kx4998 but he didn’t refuse to play for them though like I said. The Sabres forced him out of the lineup and like I said, Eichel even said he would’ve played for the Sabres had they let him get his preferred surgery. So he didn’t refuse to play for him, the Sabres simply didn’t trust the surgery forcing Eichel out of the organization
@chazzstasiuk7572
@chazzstasiuk7572 3 жыл бұрын
@@kx4998 very different than refusing to play for a team
@shalizzle793
@shalizzle793 3 жыл бұрын
@@chazzstasiuk7572 Jack Eichel was asking for trades prior to even being injured because he didn’t want to go through another rebuild… once they figured out that Taylor Hall wasn’t the answer and is only good as a 2nd liner on stacked teams like Boston, the writing was on the wall (IE the team was again bottom feeding). He was gone regardless, but it is 100% true he didn’t refuse to play, the Sabres just didn’t want to let him get the surgery but he 100% did NOT want to stay in Buffalo even before that
@chazzstasiuk7572
@chazzstasiuk7572 3 жыл бұрын
@@shalizzle793 oh I know but just what an absolute shit show of poor management to a young talent. Im an Oilers fan and Im looking forward to the Knights squad after the olympic break once he’s clear to play
@victoriak5802
@victoriak5802 3 жыл бұрын
Just for the Adam Fox trade, Lindholm is looking like the Flames best player and Hanifin is doing great on our blue line while Hamilton is in New Jersey and Fox is in New York! And for Ferland I have no idea where he is, so I think Flames got the better deal!
@wesleyheitz8359
@wesleyheitz8359 3 жыл бұрын
Yes but Hamilton was unquestionably the best player from the deal and that roster shakeup put the canes back on track. Lindholm wasn't going to be anything in Carolina so even though Calgary won the trade objectively, things have gone so well for the canes that I wouldn't risk changing it
@ryansmid1789
@ryansmid1789 3 жыл бұрын
That is very true, ferland in Vancouver
@anonymousanonymous1338
@anonymousanonymous1338 3 жыл бұрын
Cope
@Speakertweaker-tp4em
@Speakertweaker-tp4em 3 жыл бұрын
Ferland retired
@PhoenixRiseinFlame
@PhoenixRiseinFlame 3 жыл бұрын
Fox was just a sweetener in that trade. I’m pretty sure the Flames could have swung the deal with a second round as a substitute.
@curtisjmcinnis
@curtisjmcinnis 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame Bure never won a Stanley cup he was a hell of a player
@kamac1980
@kamac1980 3 жыл бұрын
Connor mcdavid playing in the 90s clutch and grab era where guys were trying to kill you on ever shift….
@kamac1980
@kamac1980 3 жыл бұрын
@Mike Schwab Bure played in a very tough time to be a skilled player. Always had to have your head up to make sure you wouldn’t get blind sided. Also had guys bear hugging you, interfering. Just makes what he was able to do all that more special. His end to end dashes look a lot like Connor Mcdavid’s.
@kamac1980
@kamac1980 3 жыл бұрын
@Mike Schwab I agree goaltenders have gotten better, but look at the 90s NJ devils neutral zone trap. Impossible to replicate that level of defensive play now, because it involves a ton of penalties in todays game.
@andrew-rn9ui
@andrew-rn9ui 3 жыл бұрын
@Mike Schwab pretty sure the equipment was bigger in the 90s and early 2000s then it is now dude , they downsized the pads 4 years ago,,, even Marc Andre Fleury been complaining about it
@Sty_over_skill
@Sty_over_skill 2 жыл бұрын
He is a great
@LobandoesRPGs
@LobandoesRPGs 3 жыл бұрын
Lindros is the most significant "refuse to play" in history. Brought the Avs a cup.
@grimiss
@grimiss 2 жыл бұрын
2 cups.
@jerryg4183
@jerryg4183 3 жыл бұрын
Eric Lindros refused to play for the Quebec Nordiques when they drafted him. Now that's a story.
@bpita0202
@bpita0202 3 жыл бұрын
Dangle’s trade tree on that is beautiful.
@thebeagles2025
@thebeagles2025 2 жыл бұрын
In most cases, I can see both sides to a story. But in Lindros' case no. Every Canadian kid growing up playing hockey knows how the draft works. No hockey player can hit 18 and say "I get to pick the team I play for,".... because that's not how the draft works. What I would have done, had I been Lindros is say, "I'll sign a 3 year contract, but in that contract will be your promise that I will be traded before the end of the first season. I'll play my guts out for you, but you have to promise to trade me. If it's not in my contract, then I promise you will not get ten goals out of me."
@danb4279
@danb4279 2 жыл бұрын
His parents didnt want him to play in Quebec
@barriem5318
@barriem5318 2 жыл бұрын
Lindros in the HOF is a disgrace.
@tenniswilliam
@tenniswilliam 2 жыл бұрын
Most people do not understand the politics of hockey in Quebec or the background to the situation Lindros was caught in. Nordiques represented Quebec nationalist sentiment and a star hockey player whether he likes it or not would be a poster boy for independence. A referendum had taken place where 49 percent voted in favour of separation from Canada. The risk that Lindros had in going to Nordiques in an separated Quebec was high - he would end up being a pariah in the hockey hockey world outside of Quebec with zero personal marketing potential. Any regular player had no such risk - the whole circumstances had to do with politics of the time.
@timomajere
@timomajere 3 жыл бұрын
Yashin and Ottawa, Then Islanders. he sat out a whole year thinking his contract would just expire, but arbitration said he owed Ottawa a year still.
@Wexter0083
@Wexter0083 3 жыл бұрын
That was very amusing. Yashin was a star though at the time and Ottawa's captain... so very selfish decision by Yashin. Though what Ottawa got back for Yashin aka Jason Spezza and Zdeno Chara... I think things worked out well for Ottawa in the end.
@redlion45
@redlion45 3 жыл бұрын
Once he was traded to the Islanders, yashin gave ZERO fucks.
@peteranserin3708
@peteranserin3708 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Yashin screwed his career royally. Maybe he had a bad agent?. It's sad because he was talented enough to be a HOFer.
@whiskyboi312
@whiskyboi312 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the Canes kept Fox, they would have the best blueline since the '07 Ducks.
@dessam3939
@dessam3939 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely would’ve taken a lot of convincing cause it sounded like Fox wanted the NYR and nowhere else but yeah would’ve been such a great d-core
@TQuong
@TQuong 3 жыл бұрын
The Flames could've had Gio Brodie Fox Hamilton Anderson and Hamonic
@thony2740
@thony2740 3 жыл бұрын
You by far use the best soundtracks to go with you're videos. Been a fan since 4.5k and haven't found many videos with bad soundtracks! Keep up the work bud.
@BoofHoover
@BoofHoover 3 жыл бұрын
Ayy go sharks
@thony2740
@thony2740 3 жыл бұрын
Go sharks!
@nadnerb_sr20
@nadnerb_sr20 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing will ever top Lindros refusing to play for the Nordiques
@chrispetrachek2613
@chrispetrachek2613 3 жыл бұрын
Pavel Bure was my favorite player growing up, it's criminal what they did to him but those highlights really took me back
@eassonweisshaar9900
@eassonweisshaar9900 3 жыл бұрын
that flames and rangers game was so fun to watch as a flames fan
@aidendoig4542
@aidendoig4542 3 жыл бұрын
i hope he gets booed there for his entire career
@bkyerrrr
@bkyerrrr 3 жыл бұрын
@@aidendoig4542 🤣🤣salty flames fan
@aidendoig4542
@aidendoig4542 3 жыл бұрын
@@bkyerrrr he deserves it
@bkyerrrr
@bkyerrrr 3 жыл бұрын
@@aidendoig4542 why cause he rather play in new york ?
@gordanblansky7137
@gordanblansky7137 3 жыл бұрын
@@bkyerrrr yes
@MrVisde
@MrVisde 3 жыл бұрын
I forget what happened after the Sharks drafted Ray Whitney back in 1991. But he couldn’t return to his junior team and had to go play in Germany and the independent IHL while waiting to reach an agreement.
@Masterown35
@Masterown35 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite was Kevin Hayes with the hawks. Chose to go for a bunch of money in his entry level deal(bonuses) and ended up losing out on a cup because he didn't want to compete for a roster spot in Chicago
@jotsky3668
@jotsky3668 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like teams should get some sort of compensation if the drafted player doesn’t want to play
@mikec886
@mikec886 3 жыл бұрын
Lindros did it
@chrisw.p5665
@chrisw.p5665 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree. The draft is a risk. MANY players have been drafted and never make the NHL, should the teams get compensation for those too?
@gordanblansky7137
@gordanblansky7137 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisw.p5665 when did he say that? Of coarse not 🤦‍♂️
@chrisw.p5665
@chrisw.p5665 3 жыл бұрын
@@gordanblansky7137 I’m simply saying that it’s the same idea. Just because a player chooses to not report to the team that drafted them doesn’t mean they team should be given compensation. The tens have interviews with the players and agents before the draft, they have an good idea if the player doesn’t want to be there.
@TQuong
@TQuong 3 жыл бұрын
They do if they're higher draft picks I think first rounders get a 2nd rounder as compensation.
@nicholasmatuszak
@nicholasmatuszak 3 жыл бұрын
Rob talks hockey is a staple in my house. Thank you for the awesome content my guy, keep up the awesome work!
@RobTalksHockey
@RobTalksHockey 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! That means a lot.
@LoowheezeBreeze
@LoowheezeBreeze 2 жыл бұрын
1:25 Actually, in hindsight, the O'Reilly is looking quite good for the Sabres... they have a 24 year old, 6'7 center in Tage Thompson who has 44 points in 57 games this season compared to O'Reilly putting up 39 points in 56 games this season...
@alecmoore6955
@alecmoore6955 2 жыл бұрын
If you think Tage Thompson is better than O’Reilly is you dont know hockey. O’Reilly won a cup as arguably the best player. Dont tryn make that trade seem good lol
@LoowheezeBreeze
@LoowheezeBreeze 2 жыл бұрын
@@alecmoore6955 If you think I said Thompson is better than O'Reilly, you lack reading comprehension...
@mammoth-puppy3246
@mammoth-puppy3246 2 жыл бұрын
Pavel bure was one of the most insane stick handlers ever. I’m so glad my dad loved him so I actually got to watch him play
@CarharttCowboy
@CarharttCowboy 3 жыл бұрын
Bure was easily the most explosive skater ever.
@lynchie137
@lynchie137 Жыл бұрын
On the bright side, it looks like Tage Thompson is well on the way to becoming a superstar player for the Sabres
@joshrusso8788
@joshrusso8788 3 жыл бұрын
Yooo rob, it’s Josh from the flames game! That rangers game was awesome, great atmosphere and the called back goal was unreal 😂😂love the content my guy
@MillerLivestockCanada
@MillerLivestockCanada 3 жыл бұрын
I used to not like watching your videos but now I do. What a happy surprise, good job rob you made a fan.
@CJetsPlanespotting
@CJetsPlanespotting 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s not forget how Tkachuk absolutely dismantled Shesterkin right as Flames fans were booing Fox
@grantbailie8431
@grantbailie8431 2 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Drouin and his agent decided that he wanted to be traded from the Tampa Bay Lightning in 2016 and refused to report for his Syracuse Crunch assignment to pressure Stevie Y. That didn't go well for him, and it forced him to eventually play again. He was later traded to the Canadiens in 2017 for Mikhail Sergachev, which I think most would agree worked out well for Tampa.
@fromdownrangesports8290
@fromdownrangesports8290 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Only correction is Boston College is different than Boston University. Yeah I'm being that guy but even still great vid!
@sgtpepper4131
@sgtpepper4131 3 жыл бұрын
I see kinda see a pattern going on in Vancouver, giving their players bad contracts then trading them to Florida. Like louongo for example
@iaintnomanstealer
@iaintnomanstealer 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy to think how close buffalo was to having both Mcdavid and draisaitl
@brianhum8765
@brianhum8765 3 жыл бұрын
It’s better for the universe that those 2 weren’t wasted on Buffalo
@adamw3916
@adamw3916 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianhum8765 they were wasted on edm tho😂
@brianhum8765
@brianhum8765 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamw3916 I mean Edm is a perennial playoff team now and could make the moves to be a serious playoff team. Buffalo is comparatively on a different planet they're that much further away.
@TQuong
@TQuong 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianhum8765 dude the Calgary Flames have more playoff wins in Edmontons new arena than Edmonton and its like 5 years old.
@1fellswoop614
@1fellswoop614 Жыл бұрын
@Brian Hum they technically were wasted on Edmonton up until they began carrying the team on their backs
@xKRONxAxTHONx
@xKRONxAxTHONx 3 жыл бұрын
The best part about that flames game is the amount the flames destroyed rangers, then fox actually scored trying to silence the crowd…. It was disallowed 🤣🤣
@medaelmtree1538
@medaelmtree1538 3 жыл бұрын
It was a shame too because it was a beautiful goal
@leonardmccannon3136
@leonardmccannon3136 3 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how you detail what happened to Bure in Vancouver. Almost nobody in Vancouver actually knows the real details. I was a huge fan and never heard a peep about this during his time in Vancouver. It was never said in the media at the time, and all the hockey talk shows in town insinuated Bure was a spoiled brat and prima donna. Worst of all was the story told to media that Bure threatened management to sit out during the 1994 playoffs if his contract demands weren’t met. One can only presume the real problem was that the team wasn’t prepared to spend the sort of money Bure could demand, and would prefer to risk the disaster that unfolding rather than reach deeper into their pockets and be blamed for losing him. I hope more people become aware of what really happened. On a side note, how the hell could Bure’s agent not notice the contract was in CA dollars and not US dollars?? Bizarre.
@rickseiden1
@rickseiden1 3 жыл бұрын
Rangers' fan here. In a way, it's too bad that Fox signed with us. If he had signed with the Flames, he would have worn those red uniforms, and more people would see the similarity between Fox and The Crimson Chin. MAN, does Fox have a chin!
@kokanee2010a
@kokanee2010a 3 жыл бұрын
I am glad fox is not in Calgary . we all know that the eastern hockey writers gave him the norris because of their eastern bias , Calgary has fed on eastern teams so far this year 20 games in . 2 game total point this year between the strangers and flames is 10 -1 .
@redlion45
@redlion45 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know about you, seeing as he's 23 and our best player, I'm glad he wound up in New York.
@rickseiden1
@rickseiden1 3 жыл бұрын
@@redlion45 Fox is an amazing player, a key part of the Rangers, and I am super glad he's on our team. I'd be really pissed off if they hadn't signed him to his recent contract. I was just making a joke about his chin. I probably shouldn't have made fun of him. Adam, if you're reading this (like that would happen), I am super glad you're a Ranger, and I'm sorry I made fun of your chin.
@charlesgallagher1376
@charlesgallagher1376 3 жыл бұрын
Pegula fired Coach Lindy Ruff when he bought the team. We haven’t been to the playoffs since.
@gojordon1
@gojordon1 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always buddy. You do a great job with research, editing, and in voice over. Thank you for all the quality entertainment you provide 👍
@LoowheezeBreeze
@LoowheezeBreeze 3 жыл бұрын
3:53 Name the team that was willing to give up a franchise piece for Eichel... the whole point of acquiring him is to increase your chances of winning the Cup, so it makes little sense to send a franchise piece from your core back to Buffalo in the process... especially given the injury concerns
@bradmesclier6465
@bradmesclier6465 3 жыл бұрын
Adding the AAV on the trade was a great detail in the video
@tjwiets6691
@tjwiets6691 2 жыл бұрын
Eric Lindros is one of the more memorable ones... I still remember a classic call out of the refusal was done in the Game 1 intro of the 1996 Cup finals... It happens at around 54 seconds into a video titled "Florida Panthers at Colorado Avalanche - Game 1 (1996 Stanley Cup Final) [COMPLETE COVERAGE]"... "Wasn't this the team you know who didn't want to play for?"
@theonlyone38
@theonlyone38 2 жыл бұрын
could you imagine how crazy dominant a Colorado/Quebec team would have been with Sakic Forsberg AND Lindros. Lets face it, Lindros was an idiot. Love em, but not the smartest dude.
@tjwiets6691
@tjwiets6691 2 жыл бұрын
@@theonlyone38who was the idiot Lindros or Philadelphia... the trade tree from that deal is ridiculous. The benefits Quebec/ Colorado got from trading him built that team, which included getting Forsberg in the initial trade.
@The_Room_2_Doggys_Revenge
@The_Room_2_Doggys_Revenge 2 жыл бұрын
I guess there are already enough videos about them but Patrick Roy and Eric Lindros are 2 huge stories that both helped the Nordiques / Avalanche in the end during the 90s
@Rptvrr
@Rptvrr 3 жыл бұрын
Lmfao love these nhl friends bits my guy 😂😂🙏🔥 great editing and humour is on point indefinitely 😂😂😂👏👏
@nickgoldrup4314
@nickgoldrup4314 3 жыл бұрын
This video is awesome because we always say “it’s more than just a game” in a positive connotation but it is just more than a game and there’s people’s lives at play so it is ultimately their choice, look at pronger leaving Edmonton for his wife and what not. I never played pro or anything but I always played competitive so anyways I had moved away from my small hometown when I was 12 and obviously didn’t know anyone when I moved out here, so I just signed up for hockey and went in blind. Well lucky for me I met an amazing coach, Rob, and played for him for the next two years. 3 or 4 years down the road have met tons of people out here and I end up running into the same coach at evaluations. I remember just having a real good talk with him and told him I was gonna play for him no matter what division he was coaching. Well, draft comes around and I get a call from the div 1 team and I ask if he coach’s with Rob, no dice so I thank him for the offer and we move on. Same thing with the Div 2 coach and this time this coach is not very happy when the call ends so I kinda felt bad. Not even a minute goes by and I get a call from Rob and we ended up winning the championship that year.
@JOBdOut
@JOBdOut 2 жыл бұрын
The fact you went to Bure but not Lindros was a pleasant surprise
@JayTayD
@JayTayD 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I was at the Flames game that they were booing Adam Fox 😂😂
@MickLoud999
@MickLoud999 2 жыл бұрын
Bure and Odjick are still good friends to this day. Whenever Bure visits Vancouver he stays at Odjick's place in South Vancouver.
@sensrule1984
@sensrule1984 3 жыл бұрын
Ottawa Drafted a Goalie first round in 98... or tried to he didn't sign . 2 years later they tried drafting him again in 2nd round 🤣
@SaltyChip
@SaltyChip 3 жыл бұрын
Love the perfect dark soundtrack in the background!
@friggo3869
@friggo3869 3 жыл бұрын
3:50 the 2023 1st round pick on Buffalo’s side is missing a space making it look like 20221st
@ericrenaud1733
@ericrenaud1733 Жыл бұрын
It happened a long time ago, but im surprised Eric Lindros refusing to play for Québéc isn't on here
@mp40submachinegun81
@mp40submachinegun81 3 жыл бұрын
You are overating how simple eichels recovery is. Its not at all a guarantee he returns to form. Return to mobility rate is 87%, most surgeries its 95-99%. He could technically just get the fusion if the disc replacement that he got doesnt work but movement will never fully recover at that point.
@soulknife20
@soulknife20 3 жыл бұрын
Problem is the neck fusion is basically borrowed time. He would have to retire after 6 or 7 years at most. With the disk replacement, he has a better chance of having a longer career. Neck fusion would also limit his head mobility too since turning his head with a fused spine is rather difficult
@toddpick8007
@toddpick8007 2 жыл бұрын
Throughout my childhood the Buffalo Sabres were the bane of the Eastern Conference with great players like Mike Peca, Miroslav Satan, Mike Grosek, Stu Barnes and a line up of heavy hitters like Barnaby, Rob Ray all backed up by Dominick Hasek. That team was a perennial playoff contender.
@vektacular
@vektacular 2 жыл бұрын
Throughout my childhood as well….Gilbert Perrault, Pierre Turgeon, Pat LaFontaine, Alex Mogilny, Dale Hawerchuk, Phil Housley, Tom Barrasso, Hasek, Puppa, sauvè….the list goes on….but believe it or not Buffalos best chance to win a cup was in 1993….we had a major powerhouse squad with Mogilny, LaFontaine, Hawerchuk, Andreychuk….in the second round Hrant Fuhr got hurt and we had an unknown Hasek on the bench….we rushed to get Fuhr back instead.
@toddpick8007
@toddpick8007 2 жыл бұрын
@@vektacular Leafs Best chance was 93 too great ride god damn Wayne Gretzky and Kerry Fraser.
@vektacular
@vektacular 2 жыл бұрын
@@toddpick8007 woulda been an Amazing matchup…Dougy Gilmore had a great year in 93….plus Norris division leafs fans coming from Toronto to memorial auditorium….wow!!
@toddpick8007
@toddpick8007 2 жыл бұрын
@@vektacular Woulda been solid, im still pissed we were denied a Leafs vs Canadiens final because of it.
@mr2slick910
@mr2slick910 3 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work Rob love your content as always 💯💯
@juanjosepazmino5886
@juanjosepazmino5886 3 жыл бұрын
so u saw the between the legs goal in the flames rangers game?
@RobTalksHockey
@RobTalksHockey 3 жыл бұрын
Yessir
@juanjosepazmino5886
@juanjosepazmino5886 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobTalksHockey luckyyy
@benjaminquan3247
@benjaminquan3247 3 жыл бұрын
for some reason I knew you would put Bure as #1 lol also push the like button for Rob! He puts out quality content every week and it only takes a fraction of a second to do so
@akgames5244
@akgames5244 3 жыл бұрын
For the Devils there was Mike Van Rym who we drafted in the 1st round but he didn’t have a long NHL career so it’s not like we missed out
@chrisdavis273
@chrisdavis273 3 жыл бұрын
This video is gunna get you a lot of viewers. Nice job
@Wexter0083
@Wexter0083 3 жыл бұрын
Damn Vancouver that is some Melnyk level penny pinching,
@jaredjanzen6481
@jaredjanzen6481 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Rob, keep up the great work!
@TC-dw6wg
@TC-dw6wg Жыл бұрын
Adam Fox is a very good player for my Rangers. That Pavel Bure deal was unreal. Surprised he didn’t have his agent retired.
@WaddickLawnCare
@WaddickLawnCare 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think people realize the cost if Buffalo retained, if it was only 2 mill a year that’s 10 mill over the 5 remaining and I doubt a first round pick is worth 10 mill especially from a competitive team (most likely 20th or later pick)
@TheWmac67
@TheWmac67 2 жыл бұрын
I had the opportunity to talk candidly to Brian Burke years ago. Burke took over from Pat Quinn who did not honor a clause in his contract stemming from the 94-95 lockout that Quinn/Ownership would not honour. Festered for a few years to the point Bure said that's it, no pay no play. Burke said he tried to talk him back but it was too caustic a situation by then. Pat Quinn supposedly blew the Gretzky deal as well by trying to strong arm #99, Gretzky was having no part of that and signed with the Blues. So as much as I liked Pat Quinn he screwed us out of more Pavel Bure and having Gretzky. Imagine those 2 together.
@cohen9191
@cohen9191 3 жыл бұрын
I literally have no clue why you don’t have anymore subs you should be famous
@LudwigBeefoven
@LudwigBeefoven 3 жыл бұрын
As for Jack Eichel, his value in the trade must have been impacted by his physical condition. After the surgery and rehabilitation, there is no 100% guarantee that he will be back playing at the same level as he did before. This IMHO explains the return from the Sabres.
@soulknife20
@soulknife20 3 жыл бұрын
Eichel never really got the chance to get healthy after this last neck injury. The Sabres kept pushing him back to the lineup before he was 100%.
@MrJameslupien
@MrJameslupien 3 жыл бұрын
The Golden Eye 64 theme song is a very odd choice for a hockey video.
@magicwanddd
@magicwanddd 3 жыл бұрын
It isn't odd because HOCKEY IS A VIOLENT KILLER BLOODY TEAM PLAYER GAME! (even with less fighting and less checking). There is a lot of shooting, slashing and beatings involved!
@Codyfrank11
@Codyfrank11 3 жыл бұрын
Mad respect to the orange shirt hanging in the background buddy 👌🏽
@cody8385
@cody8385 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha looking back on this video, ROR trade aged beautifully, Tage Thompson is a beast. Jeff Skinner isn’t close to the worst contract anymore
@sawyerdavison4211
@sawyerdavison4211 2 жыл бұрын
The eichel trade was acc good for buffalo cuz they got a winger with elite potential in krebs and a solid top 6 guy in tuch. They also got a 1st and 2nd rounder which are very valuable now, especially since vegas isn't a playoff team anymore. Eichel made their team worse, they went 14-14-1 when they were playing him compared to having a winning record and being a top 2 team in the pacific. Vegas just got a 3rd and a crybaby. Jack Eichel also wanted out of Buffalo and everyone knew it, they just didn't have a ton of leverage, so for their situation, I think they did pretty good.
@JeffreyJetsKohut
@JeffreyJetsKohut Жыл бұрын
1:25 - Hindsight... the Ryan O'Reilly trade was the Sabres getting the best player!
@natemundt4752
@natemundt4752 3 жыл бұрын
Love your content, Rob. Keep it up!
@geraldyellowknee9647
@geraldyellowknee9647 3 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to mention, love the shirt you have hung up in the back.
@exactinmidget92
@exactinmidget92 3 жыл бұрын
is that the perfect dark theme song in the background?
@locusf2
@locusf2 3 жыл бұрын
Damn that Goldeneye track in the background is so nice!
@magicwanddd
@magicwanddd 3 жыл бұрын
I would like my background ambient sound shaken up not spinning me right around baby right around like a record baby right around right round!
@shaneb472
@shaneb472 3 жыл бұрын
The return for Fox in the trade to New York is a little inaccurate. Carolina traded the 2019 2nd to Ottawa (who drafted Sogaard) but they themselves turned that into another 2nd and a 3rd that become Jamieson Rees and Antoni Honka.
@berg698
@berg698 3 жыл бұрын
Milan Lucic is responsible for the fall of the Sabres with one simple goalie check
@KalmoK
@KalmoK 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah completely, it has nothing to do with their management etc...
@scooterelway9191
@scooterelway9191 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video rob !
@Jacob-zm1cu
@Jacob-zm1cu 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Ottawa drafted mads sogaard in 2019 according to capfriendly.
@Wexter0083
@Wexter0083 3 жыл бұрын
It was with a pick they got from Carolina. I don't remember the exact transaction where Ottawa got the pick... though I guess that puts Ottawa on the Adam Fox trade tree... odd...
@WarioSaysSo
@WarioSaysSo 3 жыл бұрын
Eric Lindros will forever be the 1# player that tops a "NHL stars who refused to play for their team". He blankly refused to even put on the Quebec Nordiques jersey upon the 1991 NHL draft and held out an entire 1992 NHL season because he did not want to play for them despite the team's offensive star talents of Joe Sakic, Mats Sundin & Owen Nolan onboard. Heck Sakic,. the team captain was major fed up with that in 1992 and felt just trade him if he don't want to be here. He said several times before the draft AND after that he just did not see them as a winning team and wanted to go somewhere he could be with a contender for the cup. Never before or after have we seen such diva acting. The rules of NHL drafting is clear. The team that is in position to draft a player and picks a name - that player is obligated to report to that team or he will never enter the NHL. Just go there, sign your 3 year entry contract and learn from all experiences and then if you do not want to stay when time is up, just sign with a whole other team in the league.
@nadnerb_sr20
@nadnerb_sr20 3 жыл бұрын
The Lindros trade tree is super nuts. Pretty much gave the Avs the cup winning team😂
@TQuong
@TQuong 3 жыл бұрын
Lindros is the poster boy until Connor Bedard gets picked by Bufallo or Edmonton and refuses to play there lol. Anyways the rules in the CBA actually say that a player may re enter the entry draft if he doesn't sign with his team after x amount of years. And also a player can't just sign with another team after the entry contract he'd be an rfa for a few more years yet typically
@guyami8892
@guyami8892 3 жыл бұрын
Eric Lindros: I will NEVER play for the Quebec Nordiques! Quebec Nordiques: Okay then, we understand. *Quebec later that day* Nordiques: "Hello New Jersey, can we speak to Scott Stevens please?"
@majormoose007
@majormoose007 3 жыл бұрын
love the james bond music in the background
@Kmartsmart
@Kmartsmart 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shirt in the background
@samtaylor7426
@samtaylor7426 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s not forget about Pierre Luc Dubois refusing to play which ended up him getting traded to winnepeg
@mattwideman3185
@mattwideman3185 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome content! Much love -your friendly neighbourhood bartender
@vespidapollo5918
@vespidapollo5918 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite series on youtube
@tgs2141
@tgs2141 3 жыл бұрын
Should also be known, Carolina trades the 2019 second rounder to Ottawa which became.....Mabs Soggard.......Ouch!
@Jacob-zm1cu
@Jacob-zm1cu 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he messed up a bit mads was drafted by Ottawa. But I guess he just looks what the pick was used for
@cameronw.2775
@cameronw.2775 3 жыл бұрын
Rob talks hockey, and talks about it good
@kamac1980
@kamac1980 3 жыл бұрын
Eric Lindros not playing for the nordiques is the original and best example
@josephmother_
@josephmother_ 3 жыл бұрын
cant beleive he didnt mention patrick roy
@ciclanociclino266
@ciclanociclino266 Жыл бұрын
Tage Thompson 46 goals and 47 assist for 75 games this year , they dont miss jack at all haha
@jacobmcdonough7392
@jacobmcdonough7392 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a preds fan. I have had too much pain from players not wanting to play. Vesey and Radulov have both destroyed my mental health.
@pmatian
@pmatian 3 жыл бұрын
Damn! I never knew about Bure's contract! Bure was GOD lol
@matthewhurrell5226
@matthewhurrell5226 3 жыл бұрын
That game was so awesome. I was fortunate enough to be at the game. From the opening pick drop, I was booing at the top of my lungs from the nose bleeds lol. One of the best games I’ve ever seen. 6-0 flames Dub!
@DuffMan604
@DuffMan604 3 жыл бұрын
NBA draft Steve Francis that goof screwed the grizzlies
@blakeattig5426
@blakeattig5426 2 жыл бұрын
Likely gonna be in the 25-32 range? That didn’t age well☠️
@CloydRoyal
@CloydRoyal 3 жыл бұрын
Luckily Skinner is starting to look a little better since Jack took off.
@JeffreyJetsKohut
@JeffreyJetsKohut Жыл бұрын
3:55 - Eichel 10M 66 points in 2022-23 for Alex Tuch 36 goals 79 points 4.75M, Peyton Krebs. Noah Ostlund and a 2nd round pick this year... yah @rob talks hockey you aren't looking good in hindsight here!
@cpaulwick
@cpaulwick Жыл бұрын
Jack got validated with a cup too.
@cro_jScrptd1447
@cro_jScrptd1447 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, I was actually at that game, it was so funny to hear!
@Ghatzi91
@Ghatzi91 3 жыл бұрын
How did you not do Eric Lindros bro? XD
@KJBrazy604
@KJBrazy604 2 күн бұрын
You’re a Canuck fan so I assume you’re from Vancouver. I still remember when Steve Francis refused to play for The grizzlies.
@awfan221
@awfan221 3 жыл бұрын
I am annoyed about Fox as a Flames fan, but Carolina got screwed the most really. They got fleeced by the Rangers. But, I'm glad that they (Carolina) are doing well now though, they have great defense anyway. Lindholm has been one of top 3 players since then, and Hanifin has been ok.
@kaiedmonds7459
@kaiedmonds7459 Жыл бұрын
The ror trade is pretty good in hindsight now considering they got a first and Tage Thompson. All the other stuff wan an L though
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