Nathema Conspiracy: all NPC cameos & dialogue

[@takes2knowgames900]

Random NPC from ages ago: You took everything from me! Me: I don't even know who you are!

[@Roksik]

So true xD

[@Doided]

@Blargenfladibblenohip ! woosh

[@baconacorn473]

@@Doided that's not even a r/woooosh moment. It has four o's. He legit just said he needs to go back and play them, I don't think you understand what r.woooosh even means

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

The Last of Us 2

[@CV-Moore]

Savik would like a word with you.

[@BlackKaiserDrake]

Baras literally thinks he can beat you after you’ve killed the Emperor twice when he lost to you while you were weaker.

[@Zarkon619]

this time he had a god like superweapon with him

[@johay899]

You said it

[@vitiate5093]

@Marka Ragnos what does that have to do with anything. The fact you still allow him to live within your head is sad

[@redstripedsocks5245]

@@vitiate5093 amen to that

[@skarloeythomas5172]

@Marka Ragnos true

[@ANCIENTWARRI0R]

I love the smuggler’s toothpick and the line “I always knew you were one meditation away from losing your mind”..I think that about all Jedi

[@Harbaron]

One of my favorite lines in the entire game

[@MunchaBuncha]

How do you even get the smuggler's toothpick?

[@skunke2290]

Baras: Returns Kaas Chat: Here we go again

[@EeniThesian66]

"where's my cake and pie joke list"

[@RedSpiderZero]

Cake is a lie...

[@Become-Eggplant]

How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man!

[@aaron75fy]

@@Become-Eggplant 1,000,001

[@samuru101]

@@RedSpiderZero there is only pie.

[@tex4096]

Khem val being mad is kinda funny when he activly threatens to eat you when you have him out as a companion.

[@Roksik]

That's a refreshing take! Most people come here to ask what kind of monster the player must be to choose Zash over him :)

[@tex4096]

@@Roksik Atleast Zash had a reason for trying to murder you, and she only did it once.

[@Roksik]

@@tex4096 we did enslave Khem, guess he wasn't happy ^__^"

[@tex4096]

@@Roksik Was that before or after he tried eating us?

[@udayveerbhadauria1659]

"Khem Val may be a bloodthirsty monster who eats Force Users, but he's never lied to me"

[@Fr0st1989]

no option for the smuggler to flirt with Nexia, literally unplayable

[@Roksik]

She didn't get a flirt option with Skavak very soon either, so I can understand that xD

[@Dragontalon486]

Anyone else think it's weird that Darth Zash looked like a Sith Lord version of Elara Dorne or was it just me...?

[@Roksik]

Dragontalon486 it was weird! Then again, the character creator is kinda limited...

[@Dragontalon486]

@@Roksik just so long as it was a look-alike and not really her then I'm good.

[@CedricBassman]

What infuriates me more is that this old hag is back again.

[@Roksik]

@@CedricBassman Aw come on, I was glad to see her again!

[@Slayen]

@@Roksik As was I. Was most disappointed that this was the only interacting that we got and they just kill her off.

[@sandeepandas6742]

The Jedi Knight's and Smuggler's dark side encounters made me quote this line "Misdirected passion, deemed with foolish self-righteousness. You call yourself a master Jedi ? You are nothing but self-righteous morons"

[@TheShadowSentinel]

Hey, that's pretty much all of them.

[@MrManowar6]

Sounds like a quote that a character in Star Wars would make. Who was it and from what Star Wars game/book/movie/show?

[@barackobama6715]

MrManowar6 it was Vitiate lol

[@kingjonstarkgeryan8573]

A perfect description for the rise of the Empire era Jedi.

[@farseeraradrel4808]

Well to be fair, assuming you are going Dark Side with these characters, you end up full Dictator on the Galaxy. Not like at least one Jedi wouldn't try something about it...

[@NoOne-zd6zb]

Malea "You killed my husband... For a few credits!" Bounty Hunter "Actually I killed him because that ahole worked with the jedi battlemaster and put a massive bounty on my head because I annoyed them. I didn't give af about that dude until they started it"

[@Roksik]

Too bad I played a BH a long time ago. Can't remember well what all of that was about.

[@NoOne-zd6zb]

That's the biggest problem with the BH story, it's kind of forgettable. Basically, after the Great Hunt the Supreme Chancellor makes the BH the Republic's most wanted because the JEDI BATTLEMASTER was mad that the BH killed a jedi master (Might have been his apprentice or friend *shrug*) So the Jedi Battlemaster wastes time hunting down a single BH, instead of... I dunno... any of the thousands of things he could have been doing to help the republic vs the sith.

[@karlrovey]

Well, if you play BH, you get to kill two Supreme Chancellors.

[@tivionte961]

I really don't get why people get mad a bh for doing their jobs

[@xvirez6398]

@@NoOne-zd6zb It's not like the BH is constantly helping the Empire or anything like that... Jun Seros' mistake was to go all out for an assassin instead of his contractor, but he did what he thought was necessary to protect the Republic, even if it meant slandering and chasing an assassin on the Empire's payroll.

[@GrassPokeKing]

I'd like to think that the only reason you can't get Baras' mask and wear it as a trophy for your Sith Warrior is because they planned for him to come back and haunt you.

[@Roksik]

Sir Cupcake they barely got out of writing themselves in the corner with Vitiate, I doubt they thought that far with Baras, especially given that he can be killed :( I do hope that they planned on using Jadus . Hope he comes back...

[@sethmiles9436]

@@Roksik what do you mean they almost wrote themselves into a corner with Vitiate?

[@Roksik]

@@sethmiles9436 I mean that they both made him too powerful and very boring back when he allegedly only wanted to eat some planets and nothing more. It's clear that Zakkul was never in the cards, and when Valkorion speaks of his grand vision for the galaxy, it's a total retcon for what the Sith Emperor's been up ubtil that moment. There are still so many plotholes and unexplaned turns of events because of that...

[@tTaseric]

I literally laughed my ass off when Zash appeared again when I played. The one time she did something that I didn't see coming from a mile away. Part of me wishes she just keeps coming back with pretty revenge plots.

[@JonathanLundkvist]

Its the spice that makes life interesting. Especially for a barking mad Lord Nox.

[@Asmo_Lay]

> The one time she did something that I didn't see coming from a mile away. Now _you_ got me there cackling about that.

[@dusty8592]

Honestly, I was wondering when being a double agent for the Republic would become a problem. Never expected Shara to get hurt this bad by it though, damn. Still glad they tied up a lot of lose ends with this.

[@SPIDERVENOM1000]

still, there's no future for the empire-regardless of my actions or if they defeate the republic or jedi. there is absolutely no version where the empire or sith rule indefinitely. all she did was confirm i made the right choice.

[@CaptainRed1000]

Hold the freaking phone, Darth Torman’s apprentice’s VA is the one who did Ventress in the Clone Wars show.

[@jdrdoom3705]

Oh snap.

[@Zephyr-tg9hu]

Woahhhh. Cool.

[@EnjoyingGoodMusic]

Hol' up

[@cameronh2457]

I knew it the second I heard that voice

[@SmellyUnfortunate007]

The 2D one I assume.

[@jasperstephens8555]

Lord Zash's new body is... wow

[@CV-Moore]

Upgrades, people. Upgrades.

[@Nephalem2002]

I’d hit it

[@Nephalem2002]

@Guardian Spirit Ik🤣

[@aaron75fy]

@@CV-Moore yet she still wants yours

[@spider-boy5498]

​@@aaron75fy She dies anyway. Lucky me!

[@FreakDaMIghet]

I like to think that Servant One only had that deep and intimidating voice in the Sith Warrior storyline because he was imbued with Vitiate's power. But when he was destroyed, Servant One's voice went back to normal and that is partially why he is pissed. Lol

[@Roksik]

I don't have a good rest for VAs, did the one for Servant One change?

[@John-Stark]

That's... Actually good headcanon

[@jakisz]

Okay, that last line I wish was an option.

[@Veyron722skyhook]

Yeah. What's so wrong about being a neutral party?

[@Straswa]

This. So this.

[@Tuskin38]

They probably didn’t want to write a third story for future content :p

[@ДобрыйХаосит-х6ф]

@@Tuskin38 they domt want to wright stories at all! I mean look at original SWTOR ana at SWTOR after class questline.

[@TheShadowSentinel]

Please, after Nathema Alliance lost any chance of being a major galactic power.

[@GrassPokeKing]

Dammit, Shara. Now I have to reconsider who I'm going to align with, *again.*

[@Roksik]

Sir Cupcake I have two double agents, and both sided with the empire on iokath, so I didn't get that dialogue. Gotta be careful with that one :/

[@SPIDERVENOM1000]

she only confirms you made the right choice-there's no future for the empire-regardless of what you do.

[@KaiSaeren]

Very nice, im always shocked at how dedicated are some people. I consider myself an avid fan of swtor but I dont even have all the classes at 70 much less dark and light :D Hats off. Also your cosplay of Merril is lovely :D

[@Roksik]

KaiSaeren thank you so much! :D trying to do my best! Hopefully I can make Ossus fast since I've already datamined it and know what I need. I consplayed Acina too!:) And Lohse from the latest Divinity.

[@KaiSaeren]

@@Roksik Well dont forget to enjoy it first and foremost ;) I was always fascinated by datamining, no clue how to do it, but man arnt you afraid of those spoilers? Reveal is much less shocking when you already know its coming in advance :D Really, Lohse? Nice, she is awesome, loved her song :) Post a pic if you dont mind?

[@Roksik]

@@KaiSaeren I'd rather know what to expect in advance than have to level 4 new troopers for a complicated dialogue tree... like I had to with Elara... ugh, that was painful. Besides, I wanted to know whether Jadus is by any chance in there, and just calm down already is he isn't. Some of the stuff is here. Not much though. I really need to take some time to upload everything I have collecting dust on my PC... www.deviantart.com/roksik/gallery/

[@KaiSaeren]

@@Roksik I see your point, I wouldnt want to level four troopers for nothing :D Hm, he would have been a good character to put there, its kinda surprising he wasnt. But tbh for my LS Agent had a much harder time dealing with Shara's death, that was so sad :(

[@LordProteus]

I was so disappointed that Darth Mortis was just a throw-away Villain in this arc. He was my favourite council member outside of Marr himself, he seemed the most balanced and level-headed out of the council members, so I was confused that he was all "BLARG EVIL" if you chose to be a diplomatic Inquisitor. It's a shame quite a few memorable characters like Baras, Ravage and Zash were also used as throw-away Villains too.

[@deathsdentist]

Any good imperial character has to die or be potentially killed it is the law of Swtor until last year. I mean Jadus is gone Malgus Baras Thanaton The entire council tbh Dread Masters Imperial Guard All dead or potentially killed because we needed to raise the stakes of the threat over and over. The whole revan and emperor fiasco also didn't help, I mean the whole story of KotET just kind of falls apart when you think about the world building from where we were previously... The writers just tried too hard to make grand scale storytelling and realized...once you face down the galaxy you can't really have small stories any more. It is why I like that onslaught is a somewhat hard reset. You are still important but not the end all be all usurper of the galaxy, because that makes the story too narrow because you can never have low stakes stories...but now we can again, and it is so refreshing.

[@kingjonstarkgeryan8573]

@@deathsdentist Malgus is pulling a K'Krhuk and just refuses to die. Spoilers for onslaught's ending: It's pretty much confirmed if not heavily implied Malgus survived the Battle of Corellia and is heading torwards Dantonine

[@balazsszucs7055]

The head of intelligence being surprised we end up as a double agent is just weird. Of all the people they should know best how much it sucked to answer to the very people whose fuckups we have to cover.

[@floricel_112]

...the view must be nice from that glass house of yours, isn't it Baras?

[@xenomorph1238]

Why didn't they include that last choice, that would have been awesome.

[@Roksik]

Xenomorph 123 they probably realized that they will not be doing a third variation of whatever they have planned. I'm disappointed too :(

[@introvertedspider4857]

The Keeper and Kadon Ko ones broke my heart :(

[@incap6038]

Ravage: *A shame you stepped on the corpses of your mentors to get there.* I always had Darth Ravage pegged as an imbecile, but good lord.

[@CyberJawa1986]

This should’ve been Mortis. The little bit we get of Ravage (or the little bit I remember), that response seemed out of character.

[@CandyChaos7]

Darth Baras: *Comes back for revenge* Sith Warrior: *Regrets sparring Baras's life back on Korriban*

[@nathanwinters2400]

Honestly I'm peeved off that they wanted me to believe that people like Zash, General Garza, or Shara Jenn would join The Order of Morons. Like say what you will about them, but Zash wanted to be on the top. Garza wanted what was best for the Republic. And Shara technically was finally out of Imperial Intelligence- for better or worse her skill would have been legendary if applied elsewhere. Would have much preferred a handful of these guys and gals to simply become companions again. Zash would be a lot of fun since she found a younger body to use and apparently mastered body snatching. And fuck if I wouldn't of 10000% loved to rekindle a friendship with Shara or even a romance with a promise to return to the Empire now that most of the moronic Sith and Imperials that were bogging it down were dead or were about to be.

[@ghostface4404]

Garza was beholden to the politicians... regardless of what her words might indicate. think about all of her actions and orders and her just throwing you away.

[@someonesomething6378]

Agreed 100% on Shara part. Pity they handeled her this way

[@siryassenius1783]

Man, there's a lot wrong with this ark if you stop and think about it. As you mentioned Zash or Watcher 2 becoming companions for their respective PC's would have been awesome and probably wouldn't have been that hard to do, just a bunch more voice lines from the actors. But instead they had to die in such meaningless way. And Mortis and Ravage as well, not to mention Baras if you speared him...

[@ofrund]

Man I would kill for Zash to be back. It makes sense too, wanting to join the Alliance in hopes of gaining the SI's body at first chance she gets.

[@dwell7315]

@@ofrund ironically, she'd be very similar to Khem when you first get him, always threatening to eat you (steal your body, in Zash's case) the second you let down your guard or made a misstep. It could have been so fun!

[@ghostface4404]

Me to Kiwiiks: ''The Jedi Order abandoned me and left me for dead with the former Supreme Chancellor trying to assassinate me. I've saved trillions. now, here you are--instead of offering understanding and reconciliation--trying to not only kill me... who's saved your life... twice!--but those very same trillions that I gave everything to save! how dare you lecture me about peace or the Dark Side... as if you even know what that is. but, you're right about one thing... one of us must be stopped!''

[@banane2279]

As joyous as it was to sass her one last time, I didn't expect Zash to ever be this moronic. Who pledges her life to the study of artifacts and legends and doesn't see how a supernova mass murder machine won't grant her any wish? Girl, you're a battery. Not to mention how cunning, meticulous and resourceful she was in planning her last quest for immortality

[@arikutin1032]

Meticulous? It relied on the Inquisitior being a gullible moron who'd never question why she was so focused on "empowering her apprentice" without giving any details to the ritual. It only got as close as it did to success because the Inquisitior WAS that gullible, despite them being SITH and them having a ghost devoted to their prosperity telling them about the betrayal ahead of time. The only reason it failed was because of luck. Zash gets an A for her research and ritual preparations, but a C- on her manipulations. It's just the Inquisitior got a D on their common sense deductions.

[@EnderHeart5911]

I’ve always loved your character outfits and designs.

[@ajvanmarle]

With all of these, it would have been more fun if you had options to pretend that you don't remember them.

[@Roksik]

To be honest I actually didn't for some of them... Especially the consular ones

[@ajvanmarle]

@@Roksik I agree, some of them weren't very memorable. I'm thinking about people like Garza. "Who are you?" "Your former commanding officer." "Doesn't ring a bell. I guess I never paid attention to you."

[@Roksik]

@@ajvanmarle ah, no, I do remember Garza quite well. On of the few consistently bright spots in the trooper's story. Her, Aric, 4X and Jonas. We liked to sass one another quite a lot.

[@LazyLucael]

Baras seems so chill, exile did him good apparently.

[@Wylyth-nr3hq]

17:06 this is why I decided I won't betray the Empire. Because, according to a cutscene in the "Dantooine Incursion" update if you became a double agent for the Republic, it makes it clear that only you, Lana, and possibly Theron know you are a double agent, the rest of the Alliance thinks you are genuinely working for the Empire.

[@Roksik]

I expect things to come crashing down in the september's update. Still, it must be satisfying to be a double agent all the way through. That coversation with Shara is once again referenced in Hearts and Minds!

[@Roksik]

@ZoneFighter1 it was mentioned at the end of yavin too i think?

[@kingjonstarkgeryan8573]

15:13 looks like they got Ventress' voice actor. As much as I rag on TCW I actually did like the voice actor for Ventress in thet series over the micro series.

[@Roksik]

That's quite an ear! I never recognize VAs :/

[@tk-6967]

I mean Grey DeLisle is a veteran voice actor so it makes sense she is good. A lot of VAs on TCW are genuinely good, the actually scripts just aren't great. I prefer James Arnold Taylor's Plo Koon to the weird stuff where he couldn't speak basic for whatever reason.

[@RevanTheLegend]

Not Khem noooooooooo

[@aviatorengineer3491]

Love how everyone else until that point in the video is all "IF you survive this surprise", meanwhile Garza knows what's up and she just tells the Trooper "I know it's just gonna slow you down a bit, we'll be waiting." The Jedi are given less respect for their abilities. I kinda forgot that my Agent took out the SIS Director. I'm glad he didn't have to kill Shara, that would have been by far the most tragic thing he's done in his story.

[@Nihoolious]

Having just finished the Consular story today Gaden-Ko showing up makes no sense whatsoever

[@codafett]

Yeah, they must've ran out of characters to use for Consular

[@dwell7315]

i haven't played Consular late-game in a while, but I thought maybe Nadia's father would make a better choice for the DS option? Maybe? He at least lived on your ship for a whole chapter, that's more than a lot of these NPCs

[@twinodoom]

@@dwell7315 I don't think there's an option where he survives Stark though

[@Mulluns]

And yet, every single one of these people literally become fossil fuel for a machine god.

[@jedimasterren5520]

Ravage’s dialogue towards the Sith warrior doesn’t make sense. He practically shames the Sith warrior for killing his mentors/superiors. The core belief of the Sith is the strongest survive and the weak die. It’s hypocritical because Ravage most likely killed other siths to get his position on the Darth council.

[@darthmandalore2334]

Ravage is the perfect jedi

[@failedexperiment9073]

Honestly Ravage feels like he only got on the Dark Council because Marr wanted a clown for amusment.

[@jedimasterren5520]

@@darthmandalore2334 lol

[@ofrund]

I think that the is just afraid of the SW and hides behind the skirts of the order of Zildrog. And using other justifications to not appear weak

[@sakiinui4199]

It's even more moronic when you remember that he's the one that kill steals in the Inquisitor ending.

[@fenris-prime4921]

Well, figured I'd post my reaction to the class choices. JK: I honestly feel like Servant One might've made more sense to meet the Warrior. On the other hand I wonder how killing Kiwiiks will affect Kira's return... JC: Oh, it's...her...and him. Ok, for real, I had to look up who these guys were. I mean, surely there are more memorable folks from the Consular story. SM: Same as above, why not someone else more memorable for the Smuggler? RT: I could care less for the General guy, but killing Garza makes me regret choosing Republic for the trooper during Iokath. SW: Ah, Darth Fatso and Ravage. Killing either of them is satisfying. SI: Hey, we get to finally kill Zash! Post Chapter 1 for the Inquisitor story, she got really obnoxious. BH: I feel like a Chancellor's wife should've played a bigger role in the Hunter story for those who killed Janarus IA: Marcus Trant was a pretty good character in the books and comics. Shame he didn't get a bigger role in game. Also kinda sad to see Shara/Watcher Two go. As for that last cut line, I really wish it was left in. But nope, guess it's gotta be one or the other, or Ossus and Onslaught won't make sense.

[@Roksik]

You've got one vengeful trooper there! Didn't remember who the JC people were, but it was the same for BH. Is Marcus from the annihilation novel? Still trying to finish that... Not sure it was about Ossus. Given how vanilla game is coded singing would've probably broken...

[@rangerslayer2260]

When I played last year, Kira seems as if she forgot about Kiwiiks and honestly, I prefer it that way since my Knight has done so much sketchy stuff during the expansions. Plus, romancing Kira as a saboteur is a bit risky. I wasn't that sad about offing Kiwiiks.

[@Khalith]

I killed darth baras and he showed up anyway. I didn’t get the other guy. Must have been a bug! It also left me very confused.

[@Penguin-lc3eg]

I wanna know who is number 1 and number 2 most dangerous person for the SIS when talking to the agent!

[@Roksik]

You and me both, my friend...

[@Roksik]

@@antares1407 I agree with Jadus and ~maybe~ Acina, not sure about the rest. They didn't know Malgus was alive yet, and other class characters were supposed to be gone with their teammates drifting apart

[@Roksik]

@@antares1407 I always imagined one of them getting killed during Zakuul's attack on Korriban tbh.

[@AtlisDe]

Late to this, but reading the KZbin subtitles for khems dialogue is priceless.

[@Roksik]

Ooh i need to check that out, never tried it

[@WraithReaper09]

Thankyou for this. It truly is priceless.

[@Pugiron]

"I AM A POORLY WRITTEN CHARACTER WITH A FLIMSY MOTIVATION FOR MASS MURDER!"

[@John-Stark]

Except Baras seeing how he lost everything if you let him live

[@aaronlaughter6471]

God I love the smuggler

[@Tirrast]

What a wasted opportunity for the agent to finish darth jadus.

[@emsator]

Kinda sad that you don't get to talk to General Rakton as a trooper

[@Roksik]

Em'Sator That guy can be killed during the main campaign, probably would've been too much work :(

[@emsator]

Yeah, Too bad i guess

[@Linkforlife199]

@@Roksik Baras can be killed too and they made it work.

[@ullinator]

Trooper was pretty disappointing. Garza felt wasted and the other one was just boring

[@twinodoom]

@Wisdom Whether or not Rakton was traded back to the Empire probably should've been what determined who shows up for the Trooper, unless there was only 5 people who let him live.

[@luciuswalker8578]

Thanks for uploading this!

[@SvendleBerries]

Its nice to see Darth Baras the Wide again. I usually kill him lol

[@KambingGaming531]

That's weird.. I choose to kill him too

[@manofsauce5667]

I watched this 2 years ago when it came out and I barely understood what was going on. After playing through all of the story lines, getting sub and playing the expansions in Sith warrior, I understand now

[@Roksik]

I wasn't too well aware that people get confused over my compilations, but I'm trying to be more cohesive from now on, including more connective tissue ^^'" It always felt like people would not be interesting in listening to npc explaining things that they always explain to every pc, but I suppose it's worth it for those who have not played the stories.

[@dimbrightman]

At least they all realise and acknowledge that sending pointless mobs out won’t do anything

[@lastprimaris7914]

This is why I always try to kill my enemies even as a light side play through

[@Playtechy]

I can't believe it's been 6 years since Nathema... The story feels like it hasn't moved since.

[@RAD2070]

I just love that some of them say:"I know you gonna win but still go fight that thing. See ya!"

[@FunkyMrChicken]

My Agent was lightsided the whole game, and even sided as a double agent for the Republic at the end of her story arc, but she makes the pragmatic choice of an alliance with the empire, and she is still seen as an empire loyalist, even after the death of Acina at iokath? Make it make sense?!

[@BlueWoWTaylan]

Why would Shanna be angry at the Alliance-sided Agent? She of all people know how corrupt the Empire is.

[@Roksik]

The icons might not be clear, but it's not JUST an alliance-sided agent. She shows up only for the double agents - those who sided with Ardunn Kothe in act 3 of the vanilla story. ...And also supported the Republic on Iokath, it would seem. I ended up messing up all of my attempts at double agents :/

[@rangerslayer2260]

I never got the honour to be graced with Servant One, but since I picked the Empress Ending, boy I was surprised to see a less than steallar Master Kiwiiks. Oh, I'm sorry, you don't like my methods to save the galaxy while you sat on your ass healing herself after nearly being turned to atomised mush on Tatooine. Plus saving your sad backside on Corellia. I totally would have loved to make an example out of you for betraying me

[@GOODYGOODGOOD789]

1:20 Kreia does like that line (if you analyze her dialogue then she gives the opinion that a title doesn't matter as much as its function and that a title doesn't make you who you are as much as what you do with that title). 2:02 How on earth did it take her that long to figure out. 4:42 It would be funny if there was an option that expresses that The Smuggler is surprised that someone was deranged enough to marry (or at least get it on with) the Voidwolf. 6:38 SWTOR has done the impossible and created a character more pompous and arrogant than General Rakton, General Essith should win a prize for being able to top his predecessor on that front. 7:47 You know what's alwyas been a massive missed opportunity when it comes to SWTOR. The fact that no one, not Elara Dorne, Jace Malcolm, Aric Jorgan, and General Garza don't bring up the fact that you're following in Harron Tavus' footsteps, since you defected just like he and the rest of the old Havoc squad did, and they don't bring that up despite it being a major plot point in the Trooper storyline... wasted opportunity would be putting it mildly. 10:00 How's it possible to forget THAT. 10:23 I love how big of a hypocrite Ravage is because he let you kill Baras even when Baras asked him to intervene (he didn't even ask you to spare him). 12:56 He spent your entire time together wanting to eat you, how loyal. 14:47 Batman, Sherlock Holmes, and Hercule Poirot all need to stand aside we have a new greatest detective of all time: Malae Janarus. I can't wait for the next mystery she'll solve: what does two plus two equal.

[@99thJediWarrior]

19:00 - 19:05 If only that were a choice. It'd be fun to take down both sides and be the only sovereign power that doesn't want to take over the galaxy.

[@laszlofedor3463]

Trolling Baras again. Damm sweet.

[@randomnobody6521]

where the hell is darth jadus for the imp agent, i was fully expecting him to return.

[@Roksik]

The devs have mention that Jadus is a favourite of theirs. Given that whoever shows up here is destined to die off-screen, I want to believe that it means that they have bigger plans for him.

[@SWTORNERDGAMING]

I love that your doing these comparison videos! Can't wait to see your coverage of 5.10! Your channel was one of the biggest inspirations for me to create a channel here so thank you

[@Roksik]

You're quite welcome! :D I already datamined 5.10 from PTS and leveled up everything that I needed. So unless more content gets added I should be able to produce the compilation... well, maybe not quick, but with a smaller delay than before! :)

[@tacticianM]

The keeper one hurts

[@swansonskull3154]

Man, sad that Watcher 2 dies. My IA was in love with her

[@xeronix9774]

see servant one has emotions all of a sudden, the emperor's existence was literally a burden huh😭

[@aaron75fy]

I hate it when there's no resolution to the reunions, not even a it's just you and me

[@tempest8746]

Who are the two people more dangerous than the outlander I wonder.

[@CipherZero000]

This is great! Helpful icons at the top

[@Roksik]

Hope so. Some people were confused about the agent: one needs to be a double agent on top of a republic ally on Iokath

[@gideonhorwitz9434]

17:20 sharas appearance hit me hardest BioWare can be cruel.

[@codafett]

What are the odds of two separate Jedi Masters both being antagonistic torgruta?

[@JD-Media]

Never thought I'd see Baras again.

[@Roksik]

At least we do. Personally i just want to see Jadus again. And Scourge, although that is at least can be expected.

[@BooguyTheAdept]

@@Roksik and to be wasted by becoming a fuel for a big sentient ship? No, thanks, they deserve better.

[@Straswa]

Nice vid! Thanks for the upload.

[@MarcMagma]

Would have loved to see more interactions (and maybe even a battle) with those NPC's rather than one short talk on Holo.

[@Roksik]

I agree, it's not fair that they are written off with nothing but a dialogue wheel. Still, some of those npcs aren't important in the slightest...

[@swtormadness]

WHY WE DIDN'T GET THAT LAST OPTION?! I NEED THIS OPTION IN THE GAME! NO FACTION, INDEPENDENCE! I also like the cut content from Hylo Vish, because it helps to understand better what Gravestone truly was all this time (it looks like Gravestone is the body of Zildrog, while his mind is a super computer on Nathema - both are full Zildrog, according to my theory at least), but I kinda understand why they cut that out. Hylo doesn't have to know that one detail. If they wanted to say that, they would have to use someone, who had more chances to know. Outside of Scorpio though it's hard to tell, who could know about the true "face" of the Gravestone. Regarding Agent I was wondering myself, who would greet me on Nathema. I didn't do Nathema on my Agent yet, so I still dunno what cutscene I will get, because I never really became the double agent for the Republic - helped Ardun Kothe survive on my "double-agent mission", didn't kill him anyway, but also didn't give him the Black Codex. Same goes to BH. I have no idea how it will end, because I don't remember killing Tormen or Chancellor. I remember lying about killing the Chancellor to Tormen though...

[@Roksik]

Namimouth you probably won't get to talk to Cara as your agent then. I have the republic the black codex and I still didn't get that dialogue... And the third option would mean more content they probably didn't have the budget for...

[@swtormadness]

[Cara? You mean the Keeper?] Yeah probably. Still, I dunno. They are sometimes playing as so well (and sometimes so bad). Maybe they hid something? xD But well, even if they didn't I would be sad if Shara Jenn was mad at me, I really cared about her, even if I didn't feel that I can trust her entirely.

[@Roksik]

Namimouth yes, I meant Shara. Didn't have a lot of male agents, didn't get the chance to know her all that well... >_>

[@swtormadness]

I am speaking in the name of my female Agent xD I don't even have male one xD (Though my Agent is headcanoned as polyamorous pansexual, so she has a lot of love for people in general, but Shara was mostly a friend in my head, a good one). I am just soft at heart and I like a lot of characters, so I always feel sad when they die or are dissapointed, because of my decisions (though I rarely regret them).

[@spider-boy5498]

Darth Zash. You survived? Surprised? Your ambitions and overconfidence blinds you, Darth Zash. And now you will experience THE TRUE POWER OF THE DARK SIDE!

[@spatenfisch814]

All of them are cool. However, I think the ones who have a more personal message to your original roots are the ones who are the most significant. Thus, Kiwiiks (Knight), Sumalee (Smuggler), Garza (Soldier), Zash/(Khem) (Inquisitor) and Shara/Watcher 2 (Agent) are the ones I personally find the most impactful. Not just because the characters were pretty major on the journey, but also because them turning against you gives your character a much needed self-reflection. This is also why I didn't include Baras and both of the Consular encounters. These are far too one-sided to be as impactful as the other ones listed.

[@kurokitsune5743]

I was really upset about Consul's Voss tbh He stands in front of us only cause we saved his ungrateful ass! >:C Quinncident and theroncident both were less irritating.

[@aaron75fy]

9:47 "mercy is for the weak, we do not train to be merciful here. a man faces you he is the enemy, an enemy deserves no mercy"

[@spider-boy5498]

Only the cowards believe that the mercy is weakness.

[@aaron75fy]

@@spider-boy5498 only the foolish believe everyone reacts to mercy the same

[@spider-boy5498]

@@aaron75fy Maybe I said it because sometimes I don't mind to play fair.

[@aaron75fy]

@@spider-boy5498 such an attitude will get you killed here, that's the chief meaning behind this playing fair is not a good idea when your foe wants your head

[@spider-boy5498]

@@aaron75fy Good point.

[@AnodyneJS]

Thankfully they've fixed the Iokath decision override for Agents, or at least for class story loyalists who chose republic on Iokath. Mine was never willingly a double agent, but did side with the Republic on Iokath, and she got Trant. Makes more sense that way, since she hasn't worked for the Empire for years at that point, and there's no good reason for Shara to feel betrayed. Not a great reason for Trant to dislike her, either, since she's at least nominally allied with the Republic at this point, but an old grudge against a former member of the opposing faction's intelligence service will suffice.

[@H240909]

I am so glad to see all those loose ends tied up. That said... there was an option to be neutral! WHY DIDN'T THEY KEEP THAT!? I've been fed up with this Empire vs Republic thing for years! Just let us be our own super power. That would be awesome! Plus it just makes sense since half our forces are from one side or the other at this point. The whole point of the Alliance was that it was made of people fed up with endless war between the two factions.

[@Roksik]

H240909 I guess that it would've been too much of a hassle to create a third route. Then again, I'm baffled by Datamining results: it would seem that we will be joining a double agent, NOT joining the other faction outright. Imp characters hey the imp storyline by default, and same for the pubs

[@hopewaters814]

Alliance alerts and the return of other companions would be great if you could manage it!

[@Roksik]

Heya! I'm considering the romanced companions alerts but I'm hesitant about the rest: the tor style of dialogue isn't very cinematographic...

[@Dwayneff]

I did NOT expect Kira's master, Bella to show up and sacrifice herself to stop us. :( Kira must be devastated

[@chrion787]

Is it just me, or do Lord Vindis and Asajj Ventress have the same voice actress?

[@cedarrapidsss]

Wait who’s higher on the list than cipher nine???? Darth Nox and the Emperors Wrath??? If that’s the case which one is higher than the other

[@99thJediWarrior]

I like your Light Sith Inquisitor!

[@tjp0623]

I’m sorry, Shara...

[@SWTORNERDGAMING]

I hope you don't mind but I added you as a featured channel on my swtor channel

[@Roksik]

Not at all, and thank you :) I'm working on the Ossus video as we speak... but Balkar is throwing a wrench in my works by having hard-to-get lines for both pub and imp players. Guess I need another trooper and another agent T____T

[@tacticianM]

Where did you get the tooth pick

[@Roksik]

I'm pretty sure it's a cartel market item

[@CyberJawa1986]

Rascal’s Toothpick iirc the name

[@wojtek1582]

It is sad how many cool NPC's they burnt for this one pretty average story.

[@tTaseric]

To be fair, most of them were already functionally dead or wouldn't have appeared in the game otherwise. Garza was wasted, but at least it was in-line with previous Trooper class content. The addition of Shara Jenn to this story was downright insulting, though.

[@ДобрыйХаосит-х6ф]

1:17 I knew, that Jedi are imbeciles, but so much? "Oh? You've saved galaxy from mad IMMORTAL freak, who wanted to devour EVERYTHING? I'll kill you and all the Alliance (or even a good part of the galaxy) for this cruel and dark thing you monster." I hate those people who made scenario of this shit. 4:09 one more stupid ungratеful fool 5:52 one more pretty, but suicidie togruta. What a pity. 7:37 HERESY THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD-NACHINE! ALL PRAISE MAG'LADROT!!!

[@Roksik]

Wellll, it is possible to be a rather awful murderous person. Not murderous enough to warrant those rections in all cases, but still. Possible.

[@ДобрыйХаосит-х6ф]

@@Roksik yes. But problem is: even if you are just using dark alignment and do nothing wrong this scene would be. Am I right?

[@Roksik]

@@ДобрыйХаосит-х6ф true. Then again, you had to do something to get this alignment

[@ДобрыйХаосит-х6ф]

@@Roksik nope. Just mark your alingment as dark. You know that two buttons below right.

[@Roksik]

@@ДобрыйХаосит-х6ф That's a recent enough addition to the game's system though. No points for story and gameplay segregation, but it's still weird to act surprised with the results if you click on DS :)

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

18:59 Why would they remove such an option?

[@LooneyBin17]

HOLY SHIT THEY SHOULDVE GIVEN US THIS LAST OPTION!!!!

[@NovaG0]

Man they cut the one line I wanted to say at the end of this video 😂

[@bartofii]

I was about to say I have no recollection of ANY of the agent reactions but I might have dropped off before this... but looking into it I prolly dropped it near the start of 5.1

[@kangkudos1225]

12:12 -- Zlava...funny you got everyone to call you by your name!

[@kkruhk1641]

did every single class and still wandering who the hell some of these people are

[@JacksonMcKay95]

I supported the Republic on Iokath as my double agent, and I still got the Shara cutscene.

[@Roksik]

Yeah i modified the Iokath alliance icon later on, and coming up with a 'double agent' icon proved to be difficult

[@bartsomerson2099]

Why would anyone banish Khem into the Rakata prison?

[@Roksik]

Personally I liked Zash. She was upbeat, charismatic and with a good understanding of positive reinforcement (looking at you, Baras). Khem wanted us dead from the start just as much! Out of the two I would've preferred her to be back.

[@arashitendou5941]

To be fair she also points out Khem greatest character flaw He REFUSES to take any blame and if something goes wrong he’ll ALWAYS place it on you regardless

[@bartsomerson2099]

@@Roksik I see her as nothing but conniving and manipulative given her attempt to take over her apprentice's body all the while, and besides that Khem ultimately dived in the way of her attempt to finish her ritual thus saving us in the process. Khem's intentions aside he ultimately honours the agreement he made.

[@kangkudos1225]

@@Roksik They jipped Khem in the story of his REAL power....as ancient tour guide for the inquisitor to all the ancient relics ammassed by the enemies of Tulok Hord. Zash can read accounts of the era....while Khem Val actually lived through it and fought against the people that Zash can only read about

[@kadirr8974]

They should make Zash like the Rocket Team from Pikachu. Like she comes always and then loses everytime. Its funny. Bc knowing that my Inq had still these ghosts in him, defeated Thanaton AND defeated the Emperor 2x its just baffling to me how she is like "Yea im gonna try and take your body"

[@CaptainRed1000]

Some of these make sense. Most of them don’t. Wish this could have been better.

[@B0XMATTER]

Best by far was Baras.

[@Roksik]

Best support character of all vanilla swtor period, so no surprise there :)

[@Seaflyier]

That ending 😂 I had to stop playing one of my SI because of it.