Roland TD-17 Version 2 Update Review

Review of the new Roland TD-17 v2 software update, exploring the new kits, samples and explaining the new features. Find out what is improved and what improvements could have made version 2.0 even better!
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eDW eLements compatible with
► Roland TD-50X, TD-50, TD-27, TD-17, SPD-SX, SPD-S, TM-6 PRO, TM-2, TM-1* & RT-MicS*
► Alesis Strike Module (instrument files included), Strike Multipad
► dbdrums nPad, G4M DD90 Digipad and HXW PD-705
► Yamaha DTX-PROX, DTX-PRO, DTX-Multi 12, EAD10
► Pearl Mimic Pro
► Steven Slate Trigger 2 (.tci files included)
► Gear4Music DD90 Digipad
► dbdrums nPad
► ddrum NIO Percussion Pad
► HXW Avatar PD-705
► Millennium NonaPad
► Ashley DME 705
& any module that supports 44.1kHz, 16-bit stereo .wav samples with a layering function
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[@demonicsweaters]

I just got another TD-17 (having regrettably sold my first one 2 years ago) and I've got to say, these new kits, especially that #1 BigWoodShell sounds absolutely killer! I love it!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

I'm glad you're happy with it! Definitely a step up from the previous presets!

[@65Drums]

I think it's a solid series of upgrades, glad Roland was listening to all the feedback. But I do wish there was a little on screen select button to flip control between Master & Headphone volume. Like what they do for rimshot/rim-click.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Totally agree! It'd be such an easy win that it must be hardware related.

[@lobbyrobby]

I just ordered td-17kvx2. I recently started learning on an acoustic kit but I underestimated how loud it is. I can't wait until it shows up

[@drumforall1601]

Thanks Luke for this video. I have several of your kits for my V306 with the TD17 and they are the best of anything available.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Wow, thank you 🙏

[@Agatonga]

a new update always feels like a birthday gift. and riland keeps up and updates and adds and adds. roland on a riverrrrrrrr

[@ClubBlau]

Excellent analysis, thank you for going into all of the details. I was also suprised to see so little memory available and more of it used up now. Oh well. Still a nice piece of kit and happy to see them doing substantial free upgrades like this.

[@williamperri3437]

Damn!!! The first 2 kits sound awesome. Not sure I’ve heard the 17 sound better.

[@astronaut2005drummer]

Thanks Luke, for this video. I'll not update my TD17 module to avoid the lack of space. I prefer to use your kits. A big hug. Paulo

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

You can make a full backup, update the module then reload the backup. That will overwrite the new samples with your previous backup and samples. But it will future-proof you for my next kits that will only work on v2 😁

[@caltown79]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop this requires 2 different sd cards correct? Just swap them out?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

@@caltown79 No, you can make multiple backups on the same SD card. There are 100 slots you can save backups to. You can also have the update file on the same SD card, they're all separate processes.

[@Jason_Drums_]

Brilliant Demo 👌 I updated my TD-17 module last weekend and this is so helpful 🙏🏼 thank you 🤩 🙌

[@abc456f]

I just installed the update today on my td-17kvx, but haven't tried it out yet. I just had to order a new cymbal as one of my cy-12c's pretty much died. I had to buy a usb sd card reader because I had no card reader on my windows 11 desktop. And I have a chromebook which can't be used anyway. Tomorrow I'll start digging in to the new version. Thanks for the preview.

[@laptoples]

Thanks dude !!!! I think you just pushed me to update ! Great vid as usual !!! :-)

[@daztastic147]

Would have been good if they were also able to provide the option of the metronome going only to the headphones

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Agreed!

[@evilynux]

TOTALLY AGREE. However, just like the volume knob being tied to both, I suspect it's a hardware limitation.

[@ben_ide]

Great overview. Just updated. Thanks.

[@BurnerAccount86753]

Can’t decide between this and the Yamaha DTX6K3-X. Are these new kits putting it ahead of the Yamaha? I know the punchy sounds are better stock but no Bluetooth hurts. Do all the extra features make it better than the Yamaha for playing at home with music?

[@streetmachine79]

Thanks for posting this video. I have a TD-17KVX that is only a few months old. Could you please tell me how to go about upgrading to this new software version? Thank you!

[@pje3325]

I would love to see Moon’s Pictures of Lilly” kit on this module!

[@devilsden2283]

Just found your channel Luke and subbed...back drumming and new to the edrums, have been on an 07 kit for about a year but considering upgrading to 17 module...do you feel the upside of 17 is worth the cost? Also, your an excellent player, whats your background.....thank you sir...

[@hamo1984]

Thanks Luke.

[@backwardsbirds]

thx for the great video and drumming - are all the KITS and SOUNDS from TD17 version 1 included in version 2? Do we lose anything in the update? thx

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Yes, nothing was removed from the previous version. All of the original 50 presets are there, they've just been switched around. All of the instruments are there and the samples are still there too, just a couple of samples are renamed.

[@rolandgerard6064]

Wow good playing, subscriber!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Thank you 🙏

[@trevorbelmont4633]

What we need is upgradable ram memory.. this added kits and samples just will make it harder for us to use third party kits..

[@tobyartis4157]

I have found that ver 2.00 is a lot quieter. I even went back to find that ver1.02 has the same issue. I had to redownload the ver1.01 in order to get back to usual overall volume. Pretty annoying, because it means I can't get the new kits from Ver2.00... Have you found this?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

I believe the volume dial had a bug that was fixed in v1.02. Previously only 2/3 or so of the volume knob actually increased the volume, so once you got to around 2 o'clock on the dial, it was at maximum volume. The fix redistributed the volume curve so that the full dial is used for the same volume range. So the overall max volume of the module shouldn't be any different, you'll just have to set it a bit higher to reach the same level.

[@williamperri3437]

I can’t believe you can’t copy and paste parts of kits to other kits to easily mix and match.

[@michaelsi3708]

Which hihat do you use with the td17? I heard that the vh 13 and other two piece hihats like the ATV ones are quite hard to set up with the td 17. Did you have similar problems?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

In this video I'm using the Lemon LE-HHC12 hi-hats. I did a review of them that explains how they can work with the TD-17 due to a 3mm washer that was included with them. Check out the review to see why these two piece hi-hats can work (it might give you ideas for getting others to work too) - kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqakqniQebyIsNU

[@evilynux]

The samples for the Bright Room kit take an insane amount of space compared to the other new kits. If you are not a fan of that kit and want to free up some space, you should consider deleting those samples.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Nicely spotted!

[@evilynux]

To be honest, that kit doesn't stand out as being amazing to me, so I don't understand why dedicating so much space to it was deemed acceptable.

[@Manu9780]

Hi Luke, I'm looking to upgrade from the TD-07 to the TD-17 sound module. Do you know if the transient manipulation feature was introduced in version 2.0? Since I plan to add some external kit, I'm curious about the limited memory of the TD-17. How much space does each kit take up? Thanks, you have a new subscriber. 😊

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Hey! Unfortunately the Transient feature wasn't added to the TD-17. It's definitely odd that Roland left this feature out just for this module. Every kit can take up a different amount of space so I'm not able to say "you can fit X kits on". They all use one kit slot, but it's the sample memory that can differ - they're separate memories that interact. There is only approximately 32mb of User Sample space on the TD-17 in total. Some kits don't contain any samples so they won't take up any sample space, whereas you could technically fill the sample space with one kit if it had a lot of samples or ones that were big enough. All of the kits on my store have at least some samples and they can range from 1-2% up to 20%+. I usually detail the space they take up in the manuals and you can view those on the product pages before purchasing (I think only Huge 'N' Heavy and Famous Vol. 1 kits omit this information but I can find it for you if you need it.) I can't speak for other brands/vendors though!

[@Manu9780]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop Thanks for your feedback. I resolved by purchasing a used TD-27 for nearly half the price. The difference compared to the TD-07 is significant, i'm very happy with it. I will definitely buy one of your metal kits.

[@markykid8760]

Thanks dude! I'll update my module so. 👍 I would love if some update/mod allowed setting the rate above 260rpm, even if it wasn't 100% perfect. I like using coach mode on 8th timing so it'd be nice to go up to 400bpm at least. Is that possible in other Roland TD- modules?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

I'm not sure I understand why you would need this? It's more likely that you're playing a different subdivision of a lower tempo, so I would personally just use 16th notes at 200bpm for "8ths at 400bpm". 400bpm as a "true" usable tempo is pretty much inhuman.

[@markykid8760]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop not that complicated man. On coach > time check or quiet count, only discrete moments are checked for accuracy. These are spaced as per the bpm. Say I want to play in 140 bpm, not very fast, but I want to train my 8ths on the high hat? Then these are spaced at 280bpm and I already can't set the bpm that high. Whatever you're saying about 16th notes has no effect on checked time in coach modes. 260bpm is the max "resolution" in checking notes. The click is just that: extra clicking.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Ok. I rarely use the coach modes so didn't realise that it doesn't judge the subdivisions. Good to know.

[@markykid8760]

I'd recommend them to anyone 😀 simple but good tools for drills

[@shep00703]

Nice updates, I don't understand why their kicks sound "synthy" on "Natural" named kits.

[@BgirlSakura]

I just updated mine and am enjoying the new kits....but has anyone else experience a huge drop in output volume? Before I could have the volume at around halfway. Now whenever I record, the song and the drum sound is sooooo low. I've tried editing stuff in the volume mixer and adjusting the decibels of the pads T_T

[@Drewidx-yz7cv]

Did you ever get a fix?

[@coffeecupblue]

Same question. Did they ever patch this or is it a fact of life with v. 2.0?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Sorry, just seen this. I believe that it was something that actually happened in the last update prior to 2.00 (1.02, I think). From what I've read, someone got a response from Roland which explained that there was a bug in previous versions where the volume dial didn't use its full range - the entire volume spectrum was confined to approximately 2/3 of the volume dial. So the volume was maxing out at the 3 o'clock position rather than around 5 o'clock where the dial stops turning, meaning the last section of the dial did nothing. They apparently fixed this bug and redistributed the volume across the entire dial. In theory the maximum volume of the module should still be the same as before, you might just need to have it set a bit higher than you did before the bug was fixed. Whether or not this is 100% accurate, I can't say - this is just what this person reports that Roland told them.

[@coffeecupblue]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop Thanks Luke. And nice to have an answer minutes after I asked! I'd been wondering. 👍

[@dreadedfpv4106]

Does anyone have a practical fix to this? I now need to have the volume at 100% and it's still lower than I want...

[@greenranger9847]

Thanks for the video! What is the kit name you use at the begining?? Love how the tom and floor tom sounds

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

It's labelled in the top corner - it's the YamRecCust kit from The eDW Originals Premium pack 😁 A custom kit I made using samples from a Yamaha Recording Custom acoustic kit. It's available from my store here - YamRecCust kit - theedrumworkshop.com/products/yamreccust-td17 The eDW Originals Premium pack (YamRecCust + StarEncore) - theedrumworkshop.com/products/originals-premium-td17

[@qroger1]

Hello Luke) Thanks for the video and update story. While I am analyzing the information received from you, and the first thing that is interesting, and I think not only to me, is it possible to download new sets of presets from the updated version (copy via a memory card) and upload them to the previous version of the firmware module? Regards Max

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Hi Max. Really sorry for the delay, don't know how I missed your comment. If you've still not updated, here's an answer for you - any kits saved from the 2.0 version won't load on a previous version, unfortunately. It's a limitation that appears to apply to every software update on any of the Roland modules I've owned. I assume it's due to the difference in settings and possibly things like bug fixes (when that applies).

[@qroger1]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop oooh) Thanks for the answer 👍✌ I haven’t updated yet) Thx 😊 Luke, but tell me please, in the new firmware version, there are still installation sets from version 2.0 or some have been replaced or have new ones been added to those that were? And it would not be bad for Roland to expand the number of free slots for downloadable sets) Regards Max

[@mandrumsmandrums]

Does the limited amount of memory affect the length of the songs you can record to your SD card ? I would guess the song is recorded in core memory until you press export to SD card...

[@tjgr1969]

Great share Luke. I wonder is there a diy mod to increase the internal storage of a TD17? I’ve successfully modified my spd-sx to 16gb sd card from the factory 2GB

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

I'm really now sure how the memory is installed on these modules but I think it might be integrated on the board rather than a MicroSD like the SPD-SX. I could be wrong but I'm not willing to open my TD-17 up to find out since I need it for development 😅 I upgraded my old SPD-SX's memory too and it was great!

[@privetpridurok13]

Hi! How you connect a ride cymbal with the ride bell to td17? The RIDE have a digital input ?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

You just connect the two jacks from your ride cymbal (bow/edge output and bell output) to the corresponding cables on your TD-17's cable snake (RD and RDB respectively). There are no digital inputs on the TD-17. My setup in this video is running into my TD-50X then sending the MIDI data to the TD-17, hence the digital snare/ride.

[@ariefyudha9077]

I have a Roland td 17, then I failed to update to 2.0.1, then now it won't turn on, how do I get it back to normal? Thanks mr

[@mrarminius]

Hi Luke (and everybody else here!), i'm thinking of buying the td17 module, but i still have a maybe dumb question. Is it possible to record a multi-channel track with it or is it limited to only a single track where you have all the drumsounds in one? thanks in advance! Cheers and love your work!

[@tacobob891]

The tracks can be split up into individual tracks in your daw. You will have to research the process for doing so.

[@enriqueborunda]

Great video !! where can I purchase heavy metal kits ? any recomendations ?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

I have my Famous: METAL kits available here - theedrumworkshop.com/products/famous-metal-td17 😁🤘

[@Steve2112Rocks]

Hey Luke! I just got a td 17 to use on practice kit with my band. The module is already updated to version2. Like you alluded to in your video the new samples in V2 leave about 44% of the internal memory. If you are able to advise, which kit packs could I upload into module with just the remaining 44% of the memory left? The ones I am looking at for the td17 include the Slated Room, Originals Studio and the Yamaha rec custom/ Star Encore packs. I have those packs for my td 27 module already and I am thrilled with those. Thanks

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Hi Steve. Thanks for your continued support with the purchases. I hope you're enjoying your new TD-17! The eDW Originals Premium (YRC and StarEncore) takes up approx. 24% in total if you install the "4 Tom" version or approx. 21% if you install the "3 Tom" version. The Slated Room Collection takes up approx. 31% in total. All of these kits come with an alternative "snares off" version, so if you don't install those and only install the "snares on" versions, that will roughly halve the amount of space it uses. I don't have the exact figures to hand for each individual file, but looking at the file sizes that seems about right. The eDW Originals Studio takes up approx. 47% in total due to the House Kit using 36% (cymbal samples take up a lot of room, that's why I stopped using them after this). So that's not going to fit without deleting some. So at a push you might get the Premium and Slated Room kits on there without deleting any stock samples if you don't install the "snares off" versions of the Slated kits. Otherwise you're going to need to remove some stock samples. Depending on how many of the packs you want to get, you can use the SD Card backup feature (SETUP > SD Card > Save Backup) to have different backups with different kits. For example, you could install the Premium kits to the module as it is now, then create a backup of this to your SD card. Once the backup is made, you can go into the User Sample menu and use the "Delete All" function. This will remove all of the eDW kit samples and the stock Roland ones. Then you can install more packs to the module, use up as much memory as necessary (overwrite the previous kit slots) and create a second backup to your SD card. You can swap between these with the SD Card > Load Backup function and it should only take a couple of minutes to load a backup that's 100% "full". If you wanted to plan it out differently, you could do so for flexibility (for example, just make a backup for the stock kits then do the second backup with only my kits etc). I hope that helps!

[@Steve2112Rocks]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop thanks Luke! Two questions for you 1. If I delete the stock samples, are they gone forever or do you get them back with a factory reset? 2. If I factory reset on version 2 to get any stock samples back does the factory reset delete the version 2 update? Note* Sweetwater updated the module for me after purchase.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

No problem! 1. Yes, as long as you have the "Reset with User Sample" box checked, it will remove any added samples and restore the stock samples during the factory reset 2. No, the reset just brings it back to a "factory" version of the current software version installed

[@sailomawia3835]

Hello sir.. Its me again 😂 I have a questions.. Inside the ambience section down there.. down the right side, there is a small box written as ON, is it true that if i do not check/tick that box (On) the ambience is not working.. I mean is it turn off

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Yes, if the box is not checked then it will be turned off!

[@stevenmassee7298]

Hi Luke. Brand new to your channel and site, and VERY interested. I have a new TD-17 with old PD-5 pad kit. I need a startup primer on how to download and manage new kits. I'm an older guy but fairly tech savvy. Initially, I'm looking to improve lousy cymbal sounds out of my kit. Any suggestions or re-direction appreciated. Steve

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Hey Steve! I believe I've just replied to your email, but here's my response for the benefit of yourself or anyone else reading! - I have a couple of videos that might help with your situation. The first is my Pad EQ video that might help you improve the sounds of your cymbals on your own. You can watch that here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/i523YWltjrqmoJo The next is my custom kit loading tutorial in case you decide that you'd rather purchase kits from my store. Here's the link to that - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWemZ4yIZ6mjmdk All of my kits also come with a PDF installation guide too which can be downloaded from the product pages before purchase if you want to check them out first. A few of my most recent kits come with multiple files for different pad setups, so the process is slightly different - you'll need to check the manuals to see what the differences are between the pad assignments then pick one set of files to load to your SD card. But if you're familiar with general copying/pasting on a computer and managing an SD card, I doubt you'll run into any real issues! Beyond that, the best way to get a feel for the sounds of my kits is just to have a listen to the demo videos available on the product pages or on my KZbin channel. If you listen with the same headphones/monitors that you use when you play your own kit, that should give you the most accurate representation of what you'll hear when they're loaded. I have one pack that has new cymbal samples added (The eDW House Kit which is part of The eDW Originals Studio pack). Unfortunately the sample space on the module is quite limited and cymbal samples are very long, therefore taking up quite a bit of space. The other kits are using onboard cymbal sounds, but many are modelled (layered, tuned and/or EQ'd) to make them sound different to the stock settings. I hope that helps and that you enjoy any kits that you pick up. If you have any further questions, just let me know.

[@Steve2112Rocks]

Hey Luke! I am looking at getting a td17 for my band practice A2E set up I know you said the 17 has great triggering but is it as good as the 50 and 27?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Hey! The triggering accuracy (sensitivity, tracking of dynamics etc) is just as good for the pads that it supports, yeah. However, you won't get some of the more advanced features like positional sensing on the TD-17 with any pads. The positional sensing isn't just tonal variation across the head, it also allows for shallow and deep rimshots (different tone depending on where you hit the rimshot), as well as giving you a "rim click" when you hit just the rim. So on the TD-17 you'll just get a head and rim zone for the snare and toms, plus you get the X-stick mode for the snare which is more of a velocity switch (changes from cross-stick to rimshot when you hit harder with this activated). The TD-17 doesn't support the digital pads so you lose out on some of the extra triggering benefits of those pads.

[@Steve2112Rocks]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop thanks as always Luke . I am currently using the Alesis strike on an A2E set up for my group. It’s a disaster and I have tried everything with tweaking the cross talk and trigger settings. Alesis seems to only work well with there own pads! Take care.

[@JesusPiano]

Hi. Can I make you a question? Having just buy a totally brand new, 3 weeks old (cant be returned by now), middle/low range kit (td07 KVX), I got the chance to buy a as new td27 module, 18 digital ride, 14 digital snare, 14 digital HH, 14 t crash & 16 t Ride/Crash for 1500€. Would you say its a good buy? I can afford it Thanks very much

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

For €1500 I would absolutely buy that myself. The TD-27 module alone is over €1000 new and all of the other pads are somewhere between €300 and €800 each when bought new too. Great deal, in my opinion.

[@daaaMook]

Thanks for this video! I have a TD-27 - any additional changes for it?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

I have 3 videos all about the TD-27 update! One explaining the issues it caused to my custom kits and how to fix them, one showing how to update my custom kits now that they've been updated and a review video like this one.

[@daaaMook]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop Oh my 🤦🏽‍♂️ My apologies I will get caught up 😅 Thanks for responding and for all you do!

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

@@daaaMook No problem at all! They don't always get served up to the people who are interested! 😒

[@stephen285]

you sound good on those things you should be a drummer

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

😂

[@CanJasonGetsome182]

i have a hard time how compression works on td-17... its a nice feature than can improve the sound of my kit. i dont know where to get leads or research so i can tweak it correctly

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

There are quite a lot of videos on KZbin about compression. They're mostly aimed at people using plugins on their computer but the settings found in them (attack, release, threshold, gain, knee etc) are usually universal. I'm hoping to do a video about it in the future myself but I can't promise when it would be.

[@CanJasonGetsome182]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop i am looking forward to it... take your time! your videos has helped me improved how to tweak my td-17 module! u can check my videos and give some feedback on how it sounds :)

[@user-vo3zm4uw6d]

does TD-17 have individual output going to a mixer?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Yes, it has Master L&R outputs that you can send to a mixer, as well as the headphone output. However the downside is that both the headphones and Master outputs share the same volume dial, so getting the balance right between both can be a little awkward.

[@mandrumsmandrums]

I just updated my kit yesterday and I could swear that my volume control needs to be turned up more to get the same level I had thru my headphones before the update.....wondering but have not fully tested if there is less volume being send to the amplifier. Anyone else experience this or is it a coincidence that my hearing and/or my headphones went on the blink at the same time as my software update ? Any fix ?

[@BgirlSakura]

I'm having the same problem. Thought I was going crazy...

[@mandrumsmandrums]

@@BgirlSakura Reply from Roland support - this works Certain new settings have been applied in Version 2.0 to allow for an enhanced dynamic range from the pads. There are a few things you can adjust that will help: -Increase the Sensitivity for each of the pads slightly. (SETUP > Pad Settings > Sensitivity. -Increase the Kit Volume level in each of the Kits. (OTHER > F3 [VOLUME] > Kit Volume). -Increase the Gain setting using the new Kit Compression feature. (OTHER > F1 [KIT COMP] >F2 [DETAIL] > Gain). -Increase the Audio In and Song Levels. (F2 [MIX VOL] > Audio In /Song). We hope this clarifies things. Thank you for choosing Roland and BOSS products! Hope that helps

[@BgirlSakura]

@@mandrumsmandrums hey thanks for replying! May I ask what your settings are for these parameters? I just tried this and it does help raise the drum volume to a decent amount. I do notice that the moment I start to play songs from my phone through Bluetooth, the volume of the drum set drops again and sounds really muddy.😩

[@vito0708]

Do you think they will do a TD-07 update soon?

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

I have no idea! The 07 has some features that the 17 doesn't even have (the overheads function) so I don't know if there's a lot more to add!

[@djashjones]

Was going to say, for a few hundred quid more, you would be better off buying a td-27. Then I checked out the prices, Roland kit has gone really expensive. I swear a TD-27 module last year was about a grand.

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

The module on its own seems to be about £50 more than it was when I bought it (I paid £1120, it's generally ~£1170 on most sites), so there's a good £540 or so between it and the TD-17! The full kits have crept up too, I think, though the new configd with the digital hats are probably overall better value (I don't keep up with their prices as often though, tbh).

[@sub-jec-tiv]

Meh, all the custom kits i made with my own samples are better than these new presets so i’ll give a pass.

[@yanivbalas1]

THE MODUL SOUND BAD!!!!!! I HAVE VAD306 TD17---LIKE A SHIT!!!!!! DRUMTEC SAVE THE MODUL

[@TheeDrumWorkshop]

Sorry to hear that. Feel free to check out my kits at theedrumworkshop.com/collections/td17-kits for more improved sounds too.

[@yanivbalas1]

@@TheeDrumWorkshop THANKS!!!!