Ronnie Walks Past, then they Talk About him Being GOAT

[@frankmcconnellogue3351]

I was told I was the greatest player never to play the game .

[@jackhillman1955]

i was told im so good, no point in even playing. So i never did.

[@JJSnookerChannel]

😂😂

[@ChrisJones-bp7ij]

I was unlucky not to get a 147 once.. I just missed the first red😂

[@marviwilson1853]

I know I will never be the greatest player who ever lived so now I am trying to be the worst.

[@anthonyomahoney122]

I agree.😂

[@Captainperfection]

Blink and you'll miss him...... he just walks past 😂😂😂😂

[@sc14Av]

I’m the biggest Ronnie fan , absolutely love him I personally think he’s the greatest but anyone who makes an argument Hendry is not far off if I’m honest Hendry was the most Dominant Champion the game has ever seen and Nothing presently can change that

[@laganas2008]

Hendry won 36 ranking events in about 15 years. Astonishing. Ronnie has won 5 more but over a much longer period. They're both awesome but Hendry has the edge for me. Had he not got the yips, he may have won many more trophies.

[@101steel4]

@@laganas2008 Ronnie didn't even bother for years lol. He holds all the records though and is the goat

[@albertragnargsson]

@@101steel4 Ten players have completed a career Triple Crown, having won each of the Triple Crown events at least once. These players are Steve Davis, Terry Griffiths, Alex Higgins, Stephen Hendry, John Higgins, Mark Williams, Ronnie O'Sullivan, Neil Robertson, Mark Selby and Shaun Murphy. Only Davis, Hendry and Williams have won all three Triple Crown events in the same season, and Hendry is the only player to achieve this feat twice. I mean five consecutively world titles for Hendry, and he was world number one for eight consecutively years.

[@Andy-Bodhi]

There is a few things here that I'll say that everyone can ignore....you're welcome by the way.... Words mean things! Greatest and best for example. Ronnie is both but if we are talking about best then dominance doesn't even come into it. One comment in this thread is the same banality about Triple Crowns in a season, WC in a 10 year period. Who gives a fuck? Would Stephen Hendry have won those titles if his opponents have had had the same win ratios, points per frame, pot success and safety success as those in last 15 years? Absolutely not! It's ridiculous on the face of it and an embarrassing argument for anyone with any critical thinking skills. If you want to call Hendry the most dominant or ruthless or King of the crucible or the 90s then so be it. But words matter and the truth be told if we are talking about about ability, skill, points per frame and match play a peak 94 Hendry MIGHT just about cut it in the top 10 of the world but the likes of Robertson and Judd would just out score him, Higgins would out play him and Selby would out-bore him. But he is probably the 2nd GREATEST player of all time because of his immense success and dominance and several records that he still currently holds. I'm not even gonna talk about their head to heads, because I don't needs to. Hendry's win rate was never above 70%. Ronnie's peaked at 77%. No other player has got in the 70s. If Hendry couldn't do it against Dave Harold and Nigel Bond he definitely isn't doing it 2024. No matter what version of him you throw out there. To say otherwise is to succumb to nostalgia and poppycock, and I bid you good day

[@sidneygreen9120]

They were both pretty good difficulties to call 🤙

[@s.muneebhafeez4118]

I'm always baffled by the number of people that still debate Hendry is greater. C'mon man... forget the titles (which O'sullivan has clearly won as much and more than Hendry). Ronnie is by far the best player ever and if anyone has ever any shred of doubt, listen to Hendry's opinion about him. Enough said

[@Dat-yi4iz]

Everyone knows he’s the best player to have played the game except himself and in the end if you don’t believe it nothing else matters

[@hodgie9881]

ronnie knows self praise is worthless, hes not up his own arse to think hes the greatest thats for us to tell him

[@watgaz518]

Ronnie O’Sullivan STB (simply the best) in the super league, on his own. Followed by the premier league, Trump, Selby, Williams, Higgins, Robertson, Lisowski and then the rest in Div one.

[@marviwilson1853]

You don't always need to count championships won. Sometimes all it takes is one frame of snooker to decide who the greatest player is. The fastest 147 of all time being a good example.

[@hodgie9881]

so if ryan day made 147 faster that makes him better than ronnie? lol

[@marviwilson1853]

@@hodgie9881 but because Ryan Day will never make a 147 faster then Ronnie that seals his place in history to some degree. What I was trying to highlight was the concept of being "gifted". Some people have it. most do not. No idea really what it is and where it comes from. You can take any sport and watch a gifted player for a short period and know that they are special - like no other. The greatest of all time is a measure of that gift not so much how much silverware they have which is relative to the quality of players around them at the time.

[@hodgie9881]

@@marviwilson1853 you are delusional pal

[@hodgie9881]

@@marviwilson1853 you say the greatest can be assessed by 1 frame of snooker?now your on about talent like theese guys havnt all grafted thier whole life to be where they are ? do you read what you write before you press the send button?

[@hodgie9881]

paul gascoine was gifted is he the goat?

[@garrettkelly5568]

(0:01) Doherty: had to play really tup snafty sots 😅

[@TheycallmeMrWonka]

You need to understand that from a phycological pov you do not want to be hearing how you're the best or you're this or that. Ronnie is the type of person who needs to push that stuff away or it will really mess with his head. You see it time and again. Maybe after his career is over he can do that but from every Interview I see of him it's clear he needs his head clear of all that nonsense to be able to play better. No offence to Taylor as i think most will agree, but I think he isn't taking into account why Ronnie might say that.

[@oddities-whatnot]

We need to move away from using the word GOAT on KZbin. We really do. It’s overused, it’s not cool and it’s not trendy.

[@goofe.washington953]

I agree. My grass is getting too long.

[@DameTremonti]

GOAT

[@marviwilson1853]

That is just the English language at work, changing, evolving but I know what you mean. My personnel dislikes are "iconic" and "gig" and people who start every sentence with the word "so"!

[@sexpistolsdaz]

@@marviwilson1853 what about legend or legendary

[@marviwilson1853]

@@sexpistolsdaz It's up there but not so much as "classic"!

[@Rabid-Pinocchio]

I am definately a student of the game and all the minutia thereof. When Hendry came along he essentially re-wrote the way the game was played and he was very very very good at what he did. O'Sullivan came along with the knowledge of the old-style game but fully immersed in the new-school thinking that Hendry brought. O'Sullivan was/is very very very good at playing the new-school game but in the last several Years he has also brought back to the table the old-school game and he is very very very good at both games. Who is better? Ronnie at his best vs Hendry at his best, I'd have to give the nod to Ronnie however between the Two if one is just slightly off his game the other would have won. (I need to talk in past tense since Hendry is retired) Another element of the game that is not widely appreciated by the new-school players or fans, is the elegance of a safety game. Both of them are majestic when playing a tactical game. They don't or didn't need to much and Ronnie is not keen on that kind of game but man, when they have to bring out that weapon it is a beautiful thing to watch. Another factor to consider is the evolution of the game and the skill of the newer players. The newer players, if you average out things like centruies etc, The newer players are vastly superior to who was playing in the early 90's. That O'Sullivan is still dominant against todays calibre of players speaks volumes to me. Who's the Goat? No doubt about it, not one scintilla of contradiction, Ronnie is without a doubt the greatest snooker player ever and arguably the most perfectly honed athelete of any sport ever.

[@JJSnookerChannel]

Very well summed up mate you know your stuff 👌🏻😉🍀

[@stephen729]

for the most perfectly honed athelete of any sport ever, I would say another candidate is Novak Djokovic, hes just a perfect all rounder and have also won every single major titles.

[@Rabid-Pinocchio]

@@stephen729 It is difficult to compare apples-apples in different sports and there are transcendant enigmas across the gamut of sport. It is impossible to quantify with certainly, but my only frame of referance is, we all know that Ronnie can let external pressures influence his performance and perhaps that is a factor to be considered but that said when Ronnie is doing what Ronnie does I don't believe that it can be done better. in essence if you were to build the perfect snooker-playing ultra-AI robot with a "brain the size of a planet" I do not think that the robot, no matter how you envision it, could play 'better' than Ronnie. That is the referance point that I'm centering on but sure Djokovic is another transcendant athelete, no doubt about it.

[@ED-209UHD]

I was playing snooker at the age of 6 destroying pool league players from a very early age recorded a 126 break at spot on Riley club when I was 21 I played weekly then! I’ve not played for over 14 years but I’m sure I could still do a good job I’d say I’m the greatest of all time 😂

[@albertragnargsson]

It has to do with years of winning span, it took Ronnie 30 years to achieve what Hendry did in 10 years.

[@albertragnargsson]

Ten players have completed a career Triple Crown, having won each of the Triple Crown events at least once. These players are Steve Davis, Terry Griffiths, Alex Higgins, Stephen Hendry, John Higgins, Mark Williams, Ronnie O'Sullivan, Neil Robertson, Mark Selby and Shaun Murphy. Only Davis, Hendry and Williams have won all three Triple Crown events in the same season, and Hendry is the only player to achieve this feat twice. I mean five consecutively world titles for Hendry, and he was world number one for eight consecutively years.

[@JasonClarke-l4d]

I’m told I’m the greatest player never to be professional

[@andrewboyle327]

Joe Davies was

[@letsdiscussitoversometea8479]

Maybe that's why he's so despondent?? Ironically, Ronnie (only once) played his younger brother - an 8 times world champion in his own right. Perhaps he doesn't want to be reminded that family??

[@michaelchesney8680]

osullivan is definitely the best ... mark selby second

[@MS45636]

hendry

[@michaelchesney8680]

@@MS45636 not a chance

[@MS45636]

@@michaelchesney8680 not a chance haha, he owned the 90s snooker like tiger woods, or micheal jordan or messi etc

[@michaelchesney8680]

@@MS45636 90s snooker lol worst era ever mark selby won 4 worlds with REAL opposition , osullivan higgins williams

[@DeadlyKiss000]

What has a goat got to do with snooker? I don't see how they could even work the game out, let alone play it! Is this a wind up or something?

[@BuyOneGetOneFree]

David Attenborough made a fascinating documentary about why goats are so good at snooker. It is because they have naturally got very good eyesight to line up shots and they have a little groove in their hoof which is perfect for the cue to slide along. Nobody disputes that goats are the greatest of all time...!

[@DeadlyKiss000]

@@BuyOneGetOneFree Who is David Attenbridge? When was this documentary on please? I've never heard anything like this!!! Have I entered the Twilight Zone or something???!!

[@BuyOneGetOneFree]

David Attenborough is a very famous presenter of TV nature programmes here in the UK. But I am only teasing you, Rose … I am sorry to say that goats can’t play snooker at all which is a shame as it would be great to watch!…. For your information, when you hear the term “G.O.A.T.” it is just the acronym used for “Greatest Of All Time” ….! 🐐🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

[@sj460162]

Hes not the best this year....its Mr Bingham..and my moneys there

[@mrsalvatore1234]

Hendry is the greatest play of all time. He no longer has the numbers, but he is the greatest. sometimes these debates are more than just numbers

[@mdrtoffee]

No he isn't. That's not even a debate anymore. I grew up watching Hendry he was a machine throughout the 90s but there's just no reasonable argument at all anymore to suggest Ronnie isn't the greatest.

[@dougydoolittle5255]

BS, you are dreaming, Rocket still has plenty left in him.

[@Haerinx87]

​@@mdrtoffee Stephen Hendry is the greatest! 7 world titles, 5 in a row! It took Ronnie 32 YEARS as a professional to equal Hendry's 7 world titles.

[@Ali93infooooo]

​@@Haerinx87but ronnie is genius in snooker table

[@PAP-o7l]

"sometimes these debates are more than just numbers". Correct, they're about opinions. Yours is for Hendry, mine is for Ronnie. Who's right & who's wrong...?

[@JimmyTimmy-wh8dz]

Greatest of all time is such a nonsense..Hendry is my favourite player and in 1993 he was the best player around. But he wasn't better than Davis in 1988. Higgins was the best player around 15 years ago.

[@ArranVid]

Stephen Hendry and Ronnie

[@glasgowcsc2715]

So cringe