In Sheep's Clothing. Discussing Narcissism w/ Dr. George Simon

[@ytmvbergieb]

Dr Simon said one short phrase that helped my pry myself away from a narcissistic family member "They do it on purpose."

[@Matt-602]

Amen! Eventually one has to admit this to themselves about those types--because sometines we use any excuse but them being as bad as that. ("Oh, it must have just been a misunderstanding."...Oh, jt must be because of their divorce".... The excuses I used to make in my head for these so-called humans ) I'm just about to start watching the video, but I went NO CONTACT a few months ago-- and this keeps me focused on staying within my path OUT forever

[@MsWing-ij9nb]

"They're (disturbed characters/narcissists) aware (of their abusive actions), and they don't care ." My favorite quote from Dr. George Simon

[@goddessvibes08]

Same 💯💯💯

[@Kintsugi979]

​@@MsWing-ij9nbthis is so important to know. Sometimes there is no hope. No hope of loving a person to be healthy. No hope for a different relationship w/ that person. When you know, you must go.

[@Kintsugi979]

​@@Matt-602the idea that it must be a misunderstanding has caused me so much grief. First of all it kept me stuck for years. But it also kept me on my back heels explaing. Always explaining myself.

[@saracowherd3539]

My ex-husband and I went to a therapist who questioned me if I was gay because I didn’t want to have sex with my husband. It’s hard to want to have sex with someone who physically intimidates you to maintain control. I have to say that damaged me more than many things in the relationship. That therapist was very unprofessional.

[@gabriellasimpkins-ex6wx]

I'm so sorry.

[@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc]

WHO wants to get vulnerable aka actually naked with someone who is UN-Safe & UN-Trustworthy ⁉️

[@del1111]

Ask yourself this question. What if the therapist is a narcissist himself? And narcissist work together.

[@carolnahigian9518]

i work with a " blue jeans- ironing Karen type; nice until YOU DO NOT FEAR& obey her SCRIPT for the day. nuts....

[@marianatequiero28]

Kmmm…. Really?🤔 he couldn’t come up with any other explanation 😂

[@TwinklingofaneyeLoveStoryofGod]

“You can’t see what you don’t understand” Shalom

[@cookiemama4]

That's the problem we face when trying to explain to a family member what we're going through. It's shocking how they can oppose us, whom they have known all their lives, and that we have never falsely accused anyone or lied to them! They actually believe the narcissist over our word because of the false "nice, helpful" face they wear around them. They can't see it because it's not normal, so they don't understand.

[@river7732]

Thank you. Targets of narcissists "mistake interest for regard" - so insightful!

[@indorachaviaras5909]

Right on

[@del1111]

"For lack of knowledge my people perish" 💯% Dr. Simon knows more than he can say. Please get his book.

[@heatherhall3452]

Hosea 4:6 🙌🏽 ❤

[@alannahj728]

Rampant in the church also.

[@kaystephens2672]

My mother labeled me as a liar when I was 5. I could never convince her that I wasn’t my whole life. Some people are not worth your life. No matter what. I remember the neurosis of this terrifying woman, the bizarre rages and hysterical passive aggressive behaviors. She was a classic hysterical woman who fooled everybody. But me. It’s a miracle I survived her and her family. They only care about money and keeping it for themselves at any cost to you.

[@CarterSams]

Oh I am thrilled to see this conversation. Both of you have been tremendously helpful to me.

[@annececiliarowland7494]

I have been following the subject of mental abuse for a decade. My daughter ended up with a man who is very disturbed. She left him in 2017. No divorce yet. He hit my eldest grandson age 9 with a screwdriver on his spine leaving an imprint. We have been through court procedures in the Canadian courts to no avail. So he got 50/50 parenting. Watching copious videos, reading books, working through my daughters trauma and healing we can find very little on how to deal with single parents whose partner harms the children physically/mentally. The social services/police/the law put the rights of these fathers first. While I live in the U.K. my daughter is in a remote area of the Rockies. Isolation……. If you can point us in any direction which helps single parents co parenting with a pathological narcissist. Thank you Anya

[@selfesteem3447]

​@@robert.9028 Seriously? I guess you missed the part about Anne saying that the father got 50/50. And I guess you also missed the part about how he hit the child in the spine with the screwdriver leaving an imprint. Your situation is YOUR experience, NOT the same as everyone else's. I'm quite familiar with the subject you're speaking about, as a reference the KZbin channel named- the respondent. What's your beef with this lady? Go pick on somebody else - oh, you're a bully. Leave that lady alone. There's a DEFINITE reason why you're not a part of your child's life. Obviously. Your kid is better off without you. You're just trying to pick a figh, as you enjoy it.

[@iaindcosta]

Check HG Tudor, he helps advise people on how to deal with narcissists

[@kaystephens2672]

0 contact. They just can’t help but hurt other people. Tried to Hoover 20 years later. A very negative energy we learned to tolerate. Tolerating people is not living. It’s being brainwashed.

[@sav421]

He is 100% correct. More people need to understand that we are all interconnected in a way bigger than we can even understand.

[@edgreen8140]

What I read as a grad student and seeing it were two different things. Thank you! I understand you not wanting to take credit Dr. Simon- I am made of the same cloth. You had the insight to respond in a certain way to a certain person with their specific problem. Take the compliment!

[@jeanie5074]

Thanks to Dr. Ross Rosenberg for having this wonderful Doctor Simon.

[@black_sheep_nation]

2010: my therapist compounded my trauma by victim -blaming me for being unable to leave my relationship which was torturing me and destroying my life. Had she used the word "narcissist", it would've changed everything. But the term still wasn't that known. And narcissistic - abuse most definitely was non-existent.

[@Pukeyray]

I was blessed to work with Ross in a retreat. He was the first person to call out the narcissist in my life and it was the start to healing.

[@c.t.8856]

This was my story too but it happened to me last year and I did come in knowing my husband was probably a narcissist and I was hoping I was wrong. Sometimes therapist are just not good and it is no wonder since narcissist are so impossible to deal with. It is easier to attack the more flexible partner.

[@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc]

Seeking & Receiving THE TRUTH is The Right Path out of Abuse.

[@Somebodysomewheresometime]

2012 happened to me as well:( had to figure it all out myself

[@hd-be7di]

Not all therapists are familiar with real pathological NPD narcissism & not all of them graduated with the same level of competence either. It's important to find the right therapist.

[@vanlou2726]

Thank you Dr Ross, for introducing us to Dr George Simon. What a spiritual man!! And yet so down to earth and practical. Truly enjoyed the discussion and all the insights. Thank you so much... ❤

[@rubberbiscuit99]

I agree that Dr. Simon is a spiritual man. Spirituality is a refuge from character impaired people. As far as I can tell, these people lack spirit, or at least psychopaths, narcissists, and those with ASPD do, which explains why so many of them hide in churches.

[@michellehill718]

"Like a horse whisperer..." Beautiful! 😊Thank you both very much for such a brilliant and extremely helpful teaching needed by so many hurting people in our troubled and broken world, freely shared, explained, and demystified! ❤🌍❤

[@janicemurphy4373]

DR. SIMON, YOU ARE SO CORRECT IN YOUR STATEMENT, YOUR ABILITIES ARE TRULY A GIFT FROM GOD WE DONOT HAVE ANY THING THAT WAS NOT GIVEN TO US!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU HAVE A GIFT TO HELP PEOPLE, THANK YOU SO VERY VERY MUCH!!!!!!!!!

[@Sad_Bumper_Sticker]

This is a collaboration I am excited about.

[@newhope4me]

What an eye-opening interview! Thank you so much

[@mariahernadez9702]

“ I hope with y’all both, One ❤ at a time, Starting with Self”. God bless you both!

[@jams9705]

Amazing my gut was telling me one thing since I knew being here over 71yrs with the understanding that this life that I was born into with these two people was not about love but control and society following the narrative of religion and politics. Thank you both for your inner work to understand self love....❤

[@soniaprovard8259]

This is a very excellent & informatative video!! I have read your books Dr. Rosenberg & read in Sheeps Clothing as well as Character Disturbance! You both are the Dynamic Duo as far as I’m concerned!! I started my healing journey 7 years ago & you two have save my life!! Long story short -I married a covert Narcissist but I didn’t know exactly what our 30 year marriage would meant UNTIL after the discard, the horrific divorce & the years since!! I have learned so much more from this discussion!! I have always been a very Spiritual person & I know that love is the ultimate answer!! Thanks so much to both of you from the bottom of my heart❣️

[@dr.simakalaldeh9612]

The damage these people do is beyond evil and the recovery takes a lifetime, and society on the other hand is the driver of this prolonged suffering by acting as a soft cushion for these vial productions of monsters.

[@mysticalmisfit33]

They make it seem like they always get what they want. But they don’t even get what they need.

[@fifilafleur5555]

💯💯💯

[@Matt-602]

Pushed with that hippie dippie "I'm okay, and you're okay" nonsense

[@josephineananda]

Vile, not vial.

[@sheiladay-od2me]

Thank you so much for this illuminating, heartfelt, insightful video. God bless you both.

[@jimbyrne8281]

Wow over 70 yrs! Great job and thank you both. Explained so much-needed understanding.

[@rodbrownjohn9211]

Love you both and your books! Keep shining your light and thankyou

[@novastariha8043]

These Two are incredible helpers …..

[@SST4SSG]

21:30 "It's easier to ACT your way into a new way of thinking than it is to THINK your way into a new way of acting." Actions, not words nor debates with those types indeed at some point. Great suggestion!

[@sav421]

We also need to take accountability for own emotional maturity. That means a lot of self reflection and probably some good therapy.

[@sandracaezza7234]

I enjoyed the comment, when we know better we do better. I was married 24 yrs with someone with an addiction problem. I cannot diagnose NPD but with much education & therapy myself , I believe he is a narc. Therapy for us over 24 yrs became mostly about him, looking back, he thrived on recovery/relapse, the attention was on him. In therapy alone now I am learning & self care has been very freeing for me. 1-1-24 i discarded him,I surrendered to what would never be. His last relapse,steroids,gay porn, gym adoration,social media. It was all on his phone. My lesson, I learned. I feel blessed to be living my next act in a healthy way. Continuing my journey of awareness. TY for this content.

[@therespectedlex9794]

Sorry to sound a little judgemental. But did you know he was those things when you married him? Gay isn't the usual straight choice. A spouse with addiction problems isn't usually advisable.

[@sandracaezza7234]

@@therespectedlex9794actually he was a pharmacist. We both were in healthcare. No I did not know he had an addiction problem. My believe was that he would recover & except his disease. His sexuality always closeted until I found evidence on his phone. For me ….. judgement….. ? Not of one’s sexuality but of character. He wanted his cover , me, & stay in the home so that no one knew. He relapsed on metabolic steroid injections for the new hunk he was phone sexting with. CHARACTER. I deserve so much more. He has left town thank god By the way all his injections were bought on line. Remember he WAS a pharmacist. Hoping you will rethink your comment Gay is no crime, deception after 24 yrs at that level is. Integrity, as I showed him in the past. In his retirement???? He was driving a school bus . The steroid injections had made him so hyped he had a rage with me in the car. Now that’s character….. urine tests don’t show steroid use. He knew that. When I found all this info he freaked out I would call the school superintendent. Making him leave was the best decision of my life. Addiction,sexuality I wish him well. No longer my monkey To the new guy “ TAG YOUR IT”

[@maryc7830]

This helped me so much. My son is narcissistic. Thank you so much! ❣️🙏🏻🐾

[@selfesteem3447]

Blessing to you little Mama💌

[@maryc7830]

@@selfesteem3447 thank you that was nice of you to say. 😇

[@sav421]

I broke contact with my parents over 4 years ago. And it was not a easy or quick decision. But they came back to me three years later and ask me what they could do to make this relationship better.... I said each of you individually go to therapy. I've been therapy once a week and have have been for the past 5 years. The response was.... nothing

[@dropbearjd8986]

It's in the eyes... cold, dark, DEAD 👁 💀 Like the light has been extinguished ✨️🕳

[@wildhorses6817]

Yes, DARK DEAD EYES. TERRIFYING.

[@dropbearjd8986]

@wildhorses6817 I've often thought it could be demonic. We battle not against flesh and blood 🙌🙏💯

[@zedradio3162]

What a brilliant Guess, Wow, Wow, Wow.. Incredible message: There is a reason why I subscribe to you, Ross. Solution biased truth, not some S show, where blame is toss around, like you were not part of the Tango.. Thank you both.. God Bless..

[@ezbless100]

From my experience I am absolutely convinced that there are narcissitic people on that spectrum that are born that way. I understand we're talking about a continuum, but I definitely have that experience that the recognition that there was something different or alarming right from the start. I can think of 3 people in my circle that is the case

[@dropbearjd8986]

Spiritual affliction. Perhaps one's born with it are suffering the sins of the father. Their "doors" are more open... they are more prone to "passengers" Just my humble opinion after personal experience and much research 🙌🙏

[@Matt-602]

In either case, too many people slobbering and crying for the narcissists supposed "bad" childhood that they allegedly had. (Some of the kindest people I met in the world had much worse childhood's than those narcs. It's a cheap excuse that doesn't solve anything and gives too much sympathy cushen to the most merciless monsters in the world)

[@nikiyoussef55]

agree i think it is genetic it runns in families the narcs i know have parents who are just like them

[@kathleensueoka3599]

Some may be mix of nature and nurture plus environment.

[@abva56]

The cure is through Jesus Christ. Does anyone believe in Spiritual Warfare? Demons?

[@justinebrink4056]

I love you guys so much ♥. Wish the world had more wisdom and more people like you as leaders. I'm scared of where we are heading

[@Beanp2025]

Dr Rosenberg, thank you for many of your empathetic and compassionate videos counseling us from the victim's point of view. This is a great interview with Dr Simon, clarifies so much about character impairment vs disorders, keep up the good work.

[@tamitorres3413]

Too good! Thank you for sharing this profound information :)

[@soniaprovard8259]

I have been so inspired with hope for the worlds future!!🙏🏻❣️

[@michignamymichigan]

Drivle and lies are everywhere. Thanks for helping us through. Be you, all. 💛

[@carolinevdvlies6969]

What a wise and inspirational man!

[@ericb8413]

The narcissists that I’ve seen were primarily spoiled, indulged brats that learned how to manipulate very effectively to get their way. They honed theses skills as they grew up and became more and more selfish as the years went by. Yes I understand some narcissists were hurt at a young age however I know tons of people who were hurt badly and did not grow up to hurt others. I will never give selfish harmful people a pass because they were hurt. There’s no excuse.

[@fifilafleur5555]

Right there with ya & I say this same thing all the time! 💯💯💯

[@therespectedlex9794]

I think they don't understand that they were hurt. They usually idolise, or excessively respect, one, or both, of their parents.

[@SST4SSG]

Exactly like the ones I knew. Thank God you're going against the common false narrative that they had a poor wittle childhood or whatever

[@normacid5144]

Dr. Simon is quoting the Bible. Matthew 7:15 "“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves." Matthew 10:8 "Freely you have received; freely give."

[@susankoch1319]

Thank you

[@cathymorgan8670]

I agree that the Character is lacking ... Most Narcississicts ... Will not ever admit they are MEAN AND MALICIOUS with PERCEPTION and REALITY WARPED ...reasons for not looking at how their actions hurt the people that Love them .. There are subpersonilities and diffent labels to behavior patterns ...but what my experience has been wraught with deception .. And life stealing tactics . that have so much from me ..I may need to write a book .. I have nothing but compassion and forgivness for the NPFS in my life ...But I also will never allow anyone who shows these behavior patterns any access to me ...ever again ...😢❤

[@leticiamilo4387]

Thanks so much for sharing this video!❤⚘

[@disappearingremedy7400]

Thank you both for your work! This resonates. 💕🙏

[@michignamymichigan]

Love yourself, hate yourself, forgive and be kind to yourself, be sure to know yourself. You are wonderfully made. 💖

[@djignatin4043]

I am a severely codependent. And I fall in love with pathological narcs.

[@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc]

Awareness is the right foundation to start the journey of Recovery.

[@scarletohara6743]

Now you know, and you can change it.

[@UnacceptableTee]

Me two. I’m learning. I’m waking up and evolving and diving in. Woke up after a painful betrayal. Definitely high narcissism due to his diagnosis with an extremely strong DA leaning FA. Wondering now if it’s covert ( vulnerable ) narcissism. The label doesn’t matter. Abuse is abuse. Now just dealing with extreme negativity towards others. Absolutely fixated and focused in an unhealthy way. The negativity is really hard. I just call out what he’s doing like baiting and just tell him I’m having my own experience with this particular situation and his feelings are his business. It’s tough but there’s no co regulating. You can’t ever feel close as when you do he inevitably breaks it by destructive behaviors. I’m tired of trying to placate to his every single need and whim and I don’t do it anymore. Which are incredibly unreasonable at times. His heart is icy and he lacks empathy. He’s not wrong with being frustrated with certain things ; but his attitude and approach is horrible and if you go looking for the worst in others you’ll certainly find it. We are all flawed. I gave him such incredible grace in 10 years. Especially last 5. Yet he can’t extend that to others who are important to me. The things they are doing are nothing compared to what he was doing in our relationship. He behaved very badly. I ask him to focus on himself. His family of origin stuff that had caused his extreme style and and affects all of us including him. He has so many deep deep issues that his focus ought to be on himself. Clearly he’s acting 🎭 in ways with me and still the same man and had no intentions of deep change. Unfortunately I find His behaviors and thinking very unattractive. He is extremely negative and miserable and he actually hasn’t truly changed. The changes he made are superficial. They are basic relationship things that I’m supposed to be so grateful for. That I should be handing him bf of the year award. I did acknowledge these changes; but I’ve realized these are basic essentials in a healthy relationships. I’ve been way way too agreeable ; he’s extremely disagreeable. I see my own style and am trying to heal and learn. He’s been my greatest teacher. I’m grateful for the growth despite the pain he caused me. I also understand how I caused myself as unnecessary pain.

[@djignatin4043]

@@UnacceptableTee I date a lot. And narcs are drawn to me.

[@latebloomer7191]

This is amazing content. I want to read all the books you're mentioning. I was unwittingly married to a covert narcissist for 30 years before I ended it, and he's still in my family circle and occasionally trying to push my buttons. He brought lots of damage to my life, especially as I ended the relationship. And my adult children are still healing and evolving, although probably not directly confronting who he is. I keep as much distance as I can without missing out on important events. But, every event requires careful mindfulness and measured interactions so that he doesn't take something from me that I don't want to give. Im often grateful for the strength it took to extricate myself from a relationship with him and to continue learning about what attracted me to someone who had so little concern for my well-being.

[@goddessvibes08]

Love them both. Serious fan of Dr Simon

[@lovehappiness3911]

Yes, spiritual speaking, Jesus saves ❤✝️🙏💝

[@lynnschaeferle-zh4go]

I wasn’t a co dependent I was a person who believed in marriage and family. Co dependency happens when you have 3 autistic children and need to keep insurance and custody. Co dependent because I needed an income to raise those children. My narc was atypical because he is autistic brilliant. Very skilled at manipulation he decided to get rid of me by taking me to hospitals when I refused to obey. After insomnia torture I was hospitalized so I could sleep. No mental health care at either place I was terrified of the environment and still couldn’t sleep. So they gave me meds that I can stockpile. Three fantastic therapists confirmed I needed to save my life. I’m positive I had to understand what happened before I could admit my husband of 40 years was filth. He used all the classic tricks and with every year I was more confused and miserable and he used everybody to show me how little regard they had for me; maybe because I was crazy. His alcoholism is what made his ugliness emerge and show the real him. This narc worked for a big automaker where his bonus depended on how much he could abuse his employees. Like me they are motivated by the money needed to pay their bills and live a decent life.

[@tanyakashyap6944]

"You're a narc..n narc you'll always be.. Arrogantly presumptuous that i could never see..since u pathologized my mind so effortlessly.. Guess what.. you're as clear as daylight to me.. Your soul belongs to the devil n My soul belongs to me.." Gratitude ❤ Dr Rosenberg n Dr Simon

[@Ascendingstorm]

Great interview! You had the living legend on. George is amazing, single handedly changed my life, so it's great to see this interview.

[@cindihunter9119]

This sounds like an emotional and character "diet!" I too, have been gaslight to death! I'm so over it! These character disturbance is prevalent currently! Many of the men I've been attracted to have these types of character traits, and I've felt overwhelmed by all of this destructive behaviour... 🤨

[@fifilafleur5555]

Cindi Hunter, were either of your parents narcissists? I have fallen for these types of “bad boys” too and my family of origin (including both parents) is full of narcs. These types of men will feel “familiar” to us if we were raised by narcs.

[@cindihunter9119]

@@fifilafleur5555 Yes! My Mother was a narcissist, drug addicted, and alcoholic. My step mother as well. I married a convert narcissist and back then I didn't know anything about these behavior disorders... It just wasn't ever spoken about. I've often felt "like there's something wrong with me!" I think it's because of my upbringing and now it's tough to trust people! My two grown sons are both narcissistic too! I was also in a cult church, i.e. Mormon, and left years ago, realizing it was a high demand religion, filled with control. I have dated many men, yet often they don't really want to be in a commitment... The world has become a crazy place, and staying alone, is peaceful for me.

[@INFP-Insights]

"I cannot see what I do not understand." So true. Good interview, by the way. It's nice to know there are people who genuinely care about this subject matter.

[@TF-uu1yu]

Loved listening to both of you! You truly understand this daunting and disturbing disorder! God bless you for helping!

[@mariahernadez9702]

WOW! “Act my way into a new way of thinking than it is to think my way into a new way of acting”. “Powerful & Efficacious! Simpler ways” I need to BEHAVE differently ❤ will do! Thanks to both sooooo much 🙏🏼

[@blessedl]

Absolutely appreciate this discussion. Pharma and wrong treatment caused me for years to be numbed out, allowing different people to abuse me, not learning the tools to defend myself and accepting that the way I grew up was 'normal'. I would like to define self love as agape self love, not because you see yourself better than others and therefore deserve better than others. Those with last mentioned attitude will never be content..

[@Charity-vm4bt]

Absolutely brilliant. Thank you.

[@AnnaMishel]

The entire world is/was being gaslighted about the jabs being “safe & effective”.

[@nickieglazer33]

My Dad collapsed from a brain bleed after the 2nd injection (quacksine) I begged him not to take it. My brother works for UK Health service, 3 nurses had to be resuscitated after administering the experimental injection. He still took it and advised our father did the same. It’s like living in a sci-fi movie/ mental asylum. Respect ✊ to you for bringing awareness on this channel my friend.

[@cyndigooch1162]

A Mishel It has been the case in regard to psychiatric drugs for many decades as well and a lot of women are staying on one or more while pregnant, which is frightening, due to the fact that the drugs blunt empathy! 🙁

[@fifilafleur5555]

💯💯💯

[@SST4SSG]

​@@cyndigooch1162"We don't like your opinion. You need to see Dr Lithium!" --some brainwashed HATER trying a control tactic

[@laurakhaydon]

On Ross Rosenberg's point that if a narcissist finds they can't manipulate you, they'll stop their antics - I disagree. In my experience, they spend months and even years plotting revenge on the person they can't control and they will attempt to destroy that person. That was my experience with my malignant narc dad, anyway.

[@soniaprovard8259]

I am going to get your new book to continue on my journey!

[@philpell9002]

Thanks so much to you both, this is so insightful and heart felt. I am a trainee counsellor and have found your work so helpful.

[@privatez6967]

You are so right Ross. The victim of this kind of abuse by a covert narcissist can undergo even more trauma when therapists are manipulated by the therapist. It is diabolical when they are involved in family law!!!!

[@Ezduzit164]

Part of the family court system 40 years ago , everyone even to the therapist that were mandated by the court for evaluation enabled the narcissist on every step. I was the only person that understood how sick he was …. First he was able to by pass all these supposed professionals. I sat in the therapist office crying half the time , from the trauma of my ex husband and this family court system who were not helping to protect my children and I …but I was labeled the person who was not of the best character compared to my ex. It was the most traumatic thing to go through. A year later my ex kidnapped my children … took 14 months to find them . He did not ever care about them. This was the early 80’s before domestic abuse laws started to evolve in a more serious continuum.

[@matilda4406]

yes, it is about reverence for the greater truth

[@suzettewalsh2854]

Thank you so much for explaining never go to couples therapy with a person with a personality disorder! I went to three sessions, and I wanted to bring the Therapist neck. Thank the Lord. I was coherent enough to know that she was bamboozling him.! I came out of there so mad more so than when I went in that I said I can’t do this anymore! lol ex-husband even agreed fine we don’t have to go! I thought to myself if I was this Therapist, I’d actually like him more than I liked me because I was literally so fuming mad, and that session

[@michignamymichigan]

Hallelujah. Thanks to you both. 🌍🌎

[@AnnaMishel]

We live in a world with 2 kinds of people (empaths and psychopaths (malignant narcissists). It’s similar to canines being golden retrievers or rottweilers.) They’re genetically different! And so are empaths and psychopaths!

[@alexbaird2670]

Really enjoyed this, thank you ☺️

[@tragedienne1]

Wonderful conversation!!

[@juanadrianrobaina5763]

I love ,love,love the talk of you super experienced, intelligent guys,thank you sooo much,I am so inspired,says Katya from Cuba😊🇨🇺

[@tboned1]

Thank you for all the work you do

[@caleuxx9108]

principle: You cannot see, what you cannot understand. So true! But people feel it. ----- Overly consciencious neurotic..... Well, what environment did they grow up in and are now living in? - There is so much intolerance to basic nondangerous mistakes in some families and/or work environments + blame shifting of people who refuse to take responsibility for their own mistakes... - A psychological / spiritual awakening..... AND.... BUT..... Isnt much of the problem in today's society also associate with more and more people being basically immature? ..... medicine adn modern life in general enables adults to only have 1-2-3 children, who almost always survive, women dont die during childbirth - wonderful things YET..... medicine has enabled people to survive illnesses and injuries that in the past would have caused death.... so young people are not exposed to this type of human experience often till they are elderly.... Overprotecting and lack of boundries when growing up leads to immaturity? Doesnt it? I was just at a lecture where the therapist (systems therapy) stated that humans mature many times during crises.... And modern society, medicine.... leads to fewer and fewer crises especially in younger people .... and nacissism does not allow for normal human emotions and experience.... so people hide their normal emotional states/suffering so as not to be shamed.... (leads to psychosomatic problems) ... and so forth....

[@fairygurl9269]

Respect and Interconnectedness ❤️‍🩹💗💞

[@heatherhall3452]

I enjoyed that conversation so much I’m gonna again 🙏🏽❤️

[@francesbernard2445]

It is not as if sheep's in wolf's clothing cannot behave properly at all since they are so good at expressing only outward good behavior appearances long enough to gain someone's trust behind closed doors when alone with them. The wolf in sheep's clothing in truth regardless of what the original temperament they were born with. They in truth have no interest in self-improvement at all while being good at only pretending to; including no longer wanting to be getting better at self-love of their soul anymore too; and so offering them treatment is not going to help. In fact some of those wolves in sheep's clothing are better than the average person is at behaving with charm and charisma and propriety only in some situations. In fact whenever the wolf in sheep's clothing is regarding someone who is being determined to practice self-improvement with the help of their higher power that in truth infuriates them so much they start seeking to undermine them at every opportunity convenient enough for them to do. Like during their rest time recreation with others gossiping about them. The reason why people recovering from narcissistic abuse say that it as if all they were in a relationship with the same kind of person is because they all use the same kind of strategies to target people. For example accusing the person they are abusing of being the one who is at fault reason as to why they the morally corrupt person acted out towards them. We cannot change the wolf in sheep's clothing. We can only change so the wolf in sheep's clothing no longer has as many opportunities to be one. I doubt the stories any wolf in sheep's clothing tells about how well they have become reformed. Instead only the person hoping that what the wolf in sheep's clothing is saying is true in the long term will get the credit for their hope. they have made an inner change they have only acquired better status symbols and better status a step up as 'proof' they have changed.

[@indorachaviaras5909]

Loved this, im buying Dr. SIMMONS BOOKS

[@matilda4406]

So well summarised in the last five minutes

[@josephineananda]

Ross, let Dr. Simon talk.

[@elizabethash4720]

Finally got yourself worked out. Happy for you, sir.

[@oliviagoldin7737]

The result of my relationship with narcissist is self-love and I spotted other narcissists that I grew up with, that cemented though after therapy that I was referred to. I wonder had gone to therapy at 20 if I could have had a different life, was it a waste of my time? There were good and bad times, but I feel like my authentic self was not present in the relationship. It feels like I’ve been through tsunami, tornado and earthquake combined, and I do not want to minimize suffering people endure in actual disasters

[@susantodd7169]

Hi Ross. Love your work.

[@loriosterweil982]

I totally agree with working on changing the behavior and not the thinking. The other thing I’d like to address is the problem of being in therapy. My ex was a narcissist and a psychologist. Imagine the harm done in that office.

[@tmking7483]

Thankyou for caring

[@tahwsisiht]

23:54 38:43 41:43 50:25 because we were ignorant about truth. Without truth what can you expect? Without truth what can you revise and better? Building on falseness what can we build? Who are you if you don't understand the importance of truth? How is your character if you want to be ok with lies, if you demand others to march accordingly to your lies? How is your commitment if you want others to do what you want, based on your exploitation, manipulation and false image? What are you really committed too? On the expense of everything and everybody else. Including the expense of Mother Nature, future generations and all the living things on this earth. You are committed to try to exploit everything because you can't handle the truth. There is no "safe place" for running away from truth. No matter how entitled you feel about having a safe place, there is NONE. We are not that special to have that entitlement and it is for the better. That is what makes character a real thing: you can't have "safe place" from hiding from your own self, you can't pretend. Everything what is valuable comes with hardship. It is not for everyone, only if you mean it.

[@GuitarMatt]

It's a great way of calling out the wacky far-Left's silly "safe spaces" concept too. The blowback is here from even former Democrats like me, so deal with it! (I won't even use the word "safe" anymore because they ruined that word to me)

[@LaurenBV]

I did go to couples therapy with a covert narc but now what. It’s so crazy and it was so scary.

[@womanofgod2199]

“Knowing oneself and loving oneself!” Powerful 🔥🤍 Thank you so much Dr. George and Dr. Ross! Much enlightenment from this 🤍

[@TwinklingofaneyeLoveStoryofGod]

I believe you have to Choose it, as God has given ALL a choice. Shalom

[@mac-ju5ot]

Thank u Ross I've been through hell. I know when I get down disregulated and my character is beyond stellar.i trust my Neuro surgeon more than anyone I've have ever met

[@janepoppet3843]

Incredible interview. ❤

[@magicmegan4290]

sometimes we learn to loves ourselves through getting into an intimate relationship that’s not good, so it’s in relationship that things are worked out… but I would call this having to learn the hard way because I really do think that the entire public school system needs to be restarted. If I were in charge, I would get a panel of trusted and knowledgeable psychotherapists who understand narcissism, shame, etc etc

[@nancybartley4610]

Dr. Simon: do you discuss in detail in one of your books what you see in our society that reflects the character flawed qualities you are seeing? The entitlement, etc.

[@PottieMar]

Very interesting interview. Married to a person who has narcistic tendencies but is probably not full blown certifiable. To the host : it is disrespectful to constantly interrupt the speaker. I hope you don't do that in your practice too.

[@Twany1954]

The reason we have this mess is becuz law enforcement isn’t allowed talking about it.👈🏻 Nor are doctors!🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 It’s shocking to it’s core. Most people that aren’t psychologists but are educated thinks these people ONLY exist in the scary movies we once loved. There are very few movies out there that show this. I have watched the few by doing research. That’s really much of what they are, the few and far movies in between.👈🏻

[@garrettmalone1420]

After suffering with this for 60 years,my compassion is very low for these people!

[@NatashaM321]

Thank you very educational.

[@SST4SSG]

15:45 -"THERAPY INDUCED TRAUMA... Where are the therapist gets bamboozled." I was on the internet forum based on a book from Dr Robert Glover called "No More Mr Nice Guy". In it, with this being an all-male forum ( collection of men who announced that they lost their assertiveness or never had it) were strongly against couples therapy as a last resort to save a marriage with their BPD or NPD or whatever wife. They talked about feeling like they got tag teamed as the "bad" guy by the counselor and the STBXW. This is a consequence obviously of the "women are wonderful" effect. (The misandrists will probably rip the hair out of their heads over this post, ha ha)

[@Ezduzit164]

Geese Ross stop interrupting. You should have let this man use this hour on his knowledge. We already know everything you have to say. First it’s hard to listen with the constant interruptions .

[@privatez6967]

Will never recover this side of heaven

[@curaturable]

❤❤❤❤❤💖Thank you 😍

[@mac-ju5ot]

I would agree with the conversation...so many gave not read the book," Animal House"