Royal Enfield VS Moto Guzzi | Battle Of The Modern Classics, Continental GT 650 & V7 Stone SE

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In this video I rode the Royal Enfield Continental GT 650, a modern Classic retro motorbike made and owned in India to Silverstone race circuit to put it head to head against the Moto Guzzi V7 Specifically the V7 Stone Special Edition!
The Moto guzzi in particular is a bit more expensive than the RE, but there are other Guzzi V7 models that are more comparable in price to the continental.
I discuss many things in my comparison like value for money, handling, acceleration, power and torque, performance, stopping power of the brakes and much more! And a sound test between both of the exhausts!
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[@davidbrayshaw3529]

You can't ignore the price tag on either of these bikes and a budget is a budget. But the shaft drive on the Guzzi, the ease of maintenance, a bit more go and a bit more comfort make this the clear winner on a good few fronts. But Brexit Pesos aren't easy to come by and that is impossible to ignore when looking at the Royal Enfield. That is a lot of bike for the buck. And let's be honest, for a lot of riders, it's all the bike they'll ever need. I want the Guzzi, but if Santa leaves me the Royal Enfield in my stocking next Christmas, mum and dad aren't going to have to worry too much about me having a tantrum and storming off to my room in tears.

[@cowmath77]

Every single time I settled on a cheaper car / bike I had always wish I saved and spent more to get what I really wanted. Now that is a first world problem through and through but my thinking is if you have means to save that extra $3,000 eventually (and you can get a barely used Guzzi for $6,000 btw), save that money and buy the bike you want. Patience pays off in the market.

[@stevemiller1203]

I agree, being over 70 I’m done settling because something is cheaper. I will wait until I can get the one I really want, that being said, I think the Enfield is beautiful, but if I can only have one it’s an easy pick for the Guzzi.

[@per-arnehjorth9785]

Tough choice! I would not mind either one of them. I think I also would go for the V7 special though, providing the price tag didn't matter. If the choice stood between the Guzzi and the Shotgun 650, I am not equally sure...

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

@@cowmath77 My late father used to regularly state: "The quality is remembered long after the price is forgotten". He was also pretty good at hunting down a bargain. A low miler that someone else has ridden off the lot would be my choice. It pays to be patient when making significant purchases. Desperate sellers have a way of finding patient buyers. I spent months looking for my last bike. Eventually a bargain came up.

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

@@stevemiller1203 Do it!

[@lizardlost9692]

I’ve done 10k miles in 11 months through 6 countries on my v7 stone and it has not missed a beat. Can’t fault it. Full of character and makes you smile even on a cold wet day.

[@volt8684]

That’s good to hear as there are unreliability stories. I love v twins and I love shaft drive.

[@romanbednar5917]

Well, mine guzzi 1200 sport have 80.000km now, 30.000km in last 2 years, used daily as I commute 100km to work now, riden hard, never had an issue, I mean ZERO issues in last 10 years. But, they need proper care and frequent oil changes as they get older.

[@punkrockdidi]

Owned 2 and all you say is true but soon you will find rust on the Guzzinif you ride in rain and cold a lot. Gave mine back to the dealership after 6 months because of that...

[@mrpipps90]

@@punkrockdidiwho cares? Clean it off and get back out there.

[@punkrockdidi]

@@mrpipps90 who cares?if you pay almost 10.000 euro's for a motorcycle and it starts rusting after a bit of rain,I care😅😂

[@cowmath77]

V twin with a shaft drive and old school styling. It’s an amazing package.

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

It really is!

[@RenatoPinheiro22]

The only downturn is the digital plastic speedometer .......what a s. thing ..... but awsome bike though.

[@Crismont22]

@@RenatoPinheiro22 there is a model with analogic dock. less expensive and with other colour...

[@RenatoPinheiro22]

@@Crismont22 yes ! the classic model with a plus .. chrome pipes !! tnks

[@Fernando90054]

The Royal Enfield is a true cafe racer. But if you want to go a little further and a little far from the neighborhood, I would go for the Moto Guzzi. It invites you to do a little longer ride mileage; I would say that the range is superior too, if I’m not mistaken, and in top of that, you have space for a pillion. The V7 is the choice here, for me. 👌🏻

[@rickparkinmoto]

Definitely the Moto Guzzi, although like you I'd want the Special with the twin clocks. That Arrow pipe looks great too.

[@stevet599]

I agree, my V7 Special Edition would be great with twin clocks. I've no idea why they didn't include them. This is the only negative I for this model ...except getting into neutral - sometimes ok, others takes many attempts! I've added GIVI, engine bars, tail rack, Oxford grips and centre stand

[@davidphillips7255]

Over the last 55years I've had a wide variety of machines including: Honda CB500F, Suzuki GT750 2-stroke, Burgman 400, BMW RT80, V-Strom 1000, Suzuki Intruder 1400 and a Suzuki C90 Bagger. Now I have a V7 stone and I'm stunned at what a fine motorcycle it is. The seat is so comfortable, it steers and handles so beautifully, It's such a pleasure to ride on the open road or in the mountain twisties. It fits my six-four perfectly and no more chain BS. How could this bike be such a secret? It is by far my new favourite.

[@stevet599]

67yrs.... I find the Guzzi just that little bit slower turning in (longer rake?) than my T120 I love them both.... for all their querks etc...

[@RichardParsons65]

I'd say the Interceptor would be a better bike to compare with the V7, purely because of the riding position. Having said that the V7 is a full 200cc more, so the higher bhp and torque is a given. Great place to film, and good luck reaching a well-deserved 100k!

[@johnlenart597]

I got the GT in Rocker Red and 2 hr rides are not torturers. Plus there are 2 dealers within 40 miles. The Guzzi just doesn't look as retro as the GT. I've put the bar ends end solo seat on mine- making it look more retro. Also I've added the S W Motech small Legend panniers and magnetic tank bag. Denali lights on the engine guards improve visability while still being under 9 K. If I had more $$ and garage space I'd definitely have both. LOL . By the way, I'm going on 71 and loving the riding position of the GT. 👍👍5🏍🙋‍♂️

[@ReisterJP]

The Royal is a poser and the V7 is the real deal.

[@woodyamsterdam]

The Guzzi without a doubt. A work of art!

[@jimmarshall807]

The Guzzi you tested here is a special edition, but they've kept the prices of the core Stone and Special models pretty much the same since introducing them in 2021 (the Stone's gone up £200, the Special is exactly the same price) which makes them better value now than when launched. There are often deals to be had on new V7s too, especially at the end of the season. I've put 4000 miles on my V7 Stone Centenario and love it, to the point where I picked up a Mandello S in the Centenario colours two weeks ago. While still having the Guzzi vibe, the V100's a different beast altogether!

[@andrewjohnson6297]

I’d have to go with the Guzzi because I’ve always wanted one since the mid seventies when I was a kid and saw the Le Mans and the California

[@andrewhannam.]

The RE 650 is one modern classic I haven't ridden or owned. Some Context owned and ridden (all of them for over a year and over 5,000km) 2015 Triumph Bonneville 865 "true parallel twin" (360 crank), 2016 Triumph Truxton again 865, 2020 Kawasaki w800 Cafe and now a 2022 Moto Guzzi v7 special. The Guzzi is the best by far it has a soul like the w800, the comfort of the Bonneville, performance like the two triumphs, handles better than all of them and a shaft drive!!! Also much better gearbox ratios. Interesting enough the Guzzi frame is an evolution of a tonti frame a vintage racing frame and the RE frame is made by Harris performance.

[@Allanfrancisxavier]

Congratulations on the 100k subscribers. God bless. 🎉

[@johnmatero234]

Keep looking at T100 and T120 but something keeps pulling me back to the V7 - the Special in particular. I blame you! LOL

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Hahah sorry! There’s something about them 😁

[@stevet599]

Get both: T120 & V7 Special Edition....I did. Your only problem is which one to ride!!!😂

[@2wheelsG]

I’ve already got a T120 and am also picking up a V7Special on Saturday 😬 I’m a very lucky boy

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

@2wheelsG awesome 😎

[@johnmatero234]

@@stevet599 did just that! Leftover 2023’s. T120 Chrome when I want to be gentlemanly, and V7 Stone when I want that shake, rattle, and roll.

[@baljiibatmunkh5218]

Congratulations on 100k subscribers! Truly deserved. Love the videos featuring the GT650.

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thank you very much!

[@GregoryHeath-it8dk]

100K subscribers! Nice one (and thoroughly deserved)!

[@05rollerman]

Congratulations on the 100K subscribers!!! Long overdue! Thank you for the great videos! Take care, and good luck!

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thank you very much!😊

[@russomauricio]

100.000 Congratulations!!! You guys deserve it. Missing the Old Man in the videos.

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thank you! He will be back very very soon now 😊

[@vkaretsky]

Nice comparison. I owned a Continental GT for 2 years, and while I loved the cafe racer styling and attitude I was absolutely in pain after a 30 minute ride ( i am 5’11”). I tried different seats and nothing helped. I now own a V7 stone 850 and it’s night and day difference in comfort! I love it!

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thanks for sharing! Totally agree on comfort

[@winnerscirclehorseracingin2518]

The GT650 seat can be changed to a touring seat which is much more comfortable for touring. 150 kms on highway without a break is cool. Without any bum sore.

[@jeffwatsons5818]

Keep it up with the comparison videos, they’re great. They are very relevant to prospective buyers and none of the other major reviewers are doing much in the way of ‘verses’ reviews. Good job 👍🏻

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Got plenty planned! 😁

[@PankieThePlump]

Congratulations on 100k subscribers! I love your reviews on the modern retros. Great work 👍🏼

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thank you very much!😁

[@darrenhall6509]

Congratulations on reaching 100K. So pleased for you both, you deserve it. I have been watching for years and its getting better all the time.

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thank you so much!

[@omkartodkar7207]

Finally a video that shows the best quad lock mount for the gt650. Its also good to know the vibration dampener works on the mirror mount.

[@user-wq1mz6ny6d]

Buy both. 😎

[@alq1967]

Congratulations on 100 k subscribers!

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thank you so much 😀

[@basedury]

The level of production and the presentation skill you two showcase on this channel make it shocking that you aren't a huge channel! Much better than some of the biggest bike channels on KZbin. I always look forward to hearing your takes on motorcycles!

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Wow, thank you! Really appreciate it 😁

[@titaniunhead]

Nice video as aways... By the way, congrats on the 100K subs!!!

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thank you very much!

[@johnanderson9735]

The shaft drive on the Moto Guzzi is a winner for me.

[@angelsordemons]

Sounds better too, just sad that the tank looks narrow.

[@stevet599]

​@@angelsordemons But it's bigger than many others... 21L (?) Depending how I ride it's between 4.5 and 5 L/100km

[@angelsordemons]

@@stevet599 Righto my grouse is only that it doesn't look substantial.

[@stevet599]

​@angelsordemons Tuck your knees in! LOL I really loved the Guzzis that had more "notch" where the cylinders are. Most of the "classic" race bikes had "long" tanks.... rather than the round/bulbous shapes

[@angelsordemons]

@@stevet599 Yeah, and the v11's were nicely done.

[@Bo-nn1ig]

Great review - good photography and nice setting. Congratulations on the 100k! I own a ‘21 GT and it is a very engaging bike while riding. And it has looks to match. Also very comfortable all day for me (Touring seat) . Its reaction is so satisfying. a favorite after 45 years and dozens of bikes. It is a fantastic value, and with accessories and upgrades costing fractions of any other brand - value, quality, character = RE.

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thanks very much! Yes you’re right about that!

[@themotorcyclingmouse392]

I always loved the badging/branding on the Guzzi.. there's something about that eagle on the tank with no lettering that just looks so bad ass. Same as the story/history behind it. It's got to be one of the classiest logos of all time on any product. I've always had the V7 on my radar, but had to get a few other bikes out of my system first. Cheers to an awesome job to you and your dad, it's been fun watching y'all grow through the years.

[@Jamesulchip]

Still loving my V7 Centenario - just took it in today for its first service (900 miles) and can't wait to get back on it tomorrow

[@nigelfisher3756]

Thanks for sharing your video of these two motorcycles. For me, it’s a compete no brainer. The Guzzi is not only the better motorcycle, it’s also worth every penny more than the Enfield. It exudes styling touches, has shaft drive, is easier to maintain and the badge…that is alone worth the extra.

[@kwakithailand]

Fantastic presentation of these two lovely bikes, Darcy 👍 My 👍 as well as comment are well deserved for your top notch quality work, mate. As for what I would like to add to my garage? That one with traditional tach/speedo 🤷

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thanks so much, yes I think you’re right about that!

[@kwakithailand]

@@MrDarcy-OlMan the really fantastic thing: we riders do have so many choices to pick from, that almost every desire gets satisfied, one way or another. My younger brother got a ZH2 (for the endless power, which he's able to handle), I got myself a Z900RS (for its watches, which are practically identical to those of my Z900 of the late '70s) 🤷 Keep up God's good work by mercilessly presenting such interesting bikes. BTW, looking forward to VDOs together with the Ol'Man and you, Darcy!

[@tnargs57]

I have owned a Norton Commando and a Ducati Darmah as my daily driver, for ten years each through the 70s 80s 90s and noughties. Loved them both, and the Darmah brought that magic beat, but if I were to resurrect only one today, it would be my old Commando Interstate 850 black with gold pin and Dunstall rearsets. She owns my soul. Hence of these two, the RE speaks to me more of the fundamental draw of classic motorcycling: you look, you ride, you look again, you just can't take your eyes off her. You dream, you remember. Rinse and repeat.

[@hmoosawi]

Congratulations for the 100K

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thank you so much 😀

[@niharikakhanna9459]

Hello, I am a new subscriber and I want to tell you that your content is absolutely mind-blowing. I have binge watched your videos in the past few weeks. One small suggestion as a viewer and bike admirer is I'd love to see a bit of your videos dedicated to the exhaust note. It could be something as simple as just putting how the bike sounds when you cold start it till it idles, or even your review/ comparison with other bikes. Waiting for more amazing content. Happy birthday to you in advance and wishing good luck to your dad for the house move. Best, N

[@WarmHandLuke]

Congrats on finally reaching 100k guys 🎉🎉🎉🍻

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Yay! Thank you!

[@mortgagesandlifeinsurance]

Congrats on getting to 100K!

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thank you so much 😀

[@recoilrob324]

Great comparison video! When choosing between the Continental GT and Interceptor...I went with the latter as it just fit me better. With tank pads my knees can grip the tank properly which then unloads the arms completely by using my legs and core rather than depending on the arms as the GT pretty much forces you to. I DO like how the GT looks...but riding the Interceptor it's no contest. Also comparing an 850 to a 650 puts the smaller bike at a disadvantage so a 'hot-rodded' Interceptor more of a match which is pretty easy to do with the aftermarket cams, pipes and tuners available to do the job. A good 650 will approach 60 horses at the rear wheel and also shed some pounds from the exhaust system and should be at least a match for the Guzzi. I also have always found the Guzzi approach to motorcycles very appealing...but also enjoy tinkering and modding and for me....the Interceptor is the better bike. But....if someone gave me a Guzzi I'd certainly take it in and love it just the same.

[@Sr.D]

I test rode the Bonneville t100 and the v7 850, fell in love with the v7, marvelous bike, felt superior to the bonnie to me in every possible way. V7 special for me, best looking v7.

[@bobbyram6401]

Congratulations 🎉 on 100k! from Erie, Pennsylvania. 😊 I bought a 1k mile 2021 V7 Stone in Arancione Rame (Orange Copper) and like McD’s: I’m lovin’ it! It had the Mistral exhausts already on it. What a sound!

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thanks very much. Sounds fantastic 😁

[@user-xk5sp1uq9z]

You are going to far exceed 100k. Keep up the great work.

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thanks so much!!

[@stuartsharpe5513]

Yet another great review keep up the good work. 😅

[@danielmcneil3004]

Congratulations on 100k.🎉🎉🎉. Good review of both bikes and a tough choice for buyers. Both great looking .Although I am a big fan of RE, if money was no object, would probably choose the Guzzi. I happen to own a “poor man’s Guzzi “ at the moment. CX500, shaft drive , Vtwin, with the same side to side shake at startup. Cheap and easy to maintain. Love it. Cheers, Dan 🏍✌️🇨🇦

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thank you so much, sounds like great fun!

[@FreddieDobbs]

Definitely agree re v twin sound👌🏻👌🏻

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Glad you agree, it’s the best sound of them all 👌🏻

[@rideon41]

Nice review. I have a '22 Conti GT, and absolutely love it. I actually test-rode V7 before buying the Conti, and side-rocking is a show-stopper for me. I get why people like it, it definitely has a ton of character, just not my type of character! I have done several 300+ mile rides on my Conti, and with the premium touring seat it has been great. Growing up on sport bikes and having decent core strength helps for sure with keeping weight off of the bars. Changed tires to BT46s, and it handles great stock. For anywhere near US $6K, I can't think of anything even close. Also, stuff like mirrors, exhausts, etc. are probably the first thing people change. I wouldn't choose one or the other based on the stock parts.

[@garyprice2869]

Hi great video again guys. Love the channel! Can you tell me what mirrors are on the Guzzi. I’m having trouble finding ones that fit Cheers from Canada!

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Hi Gary, thanks a lot! I’m not 100% sure tbh. As far as I know I think they are the ones that come with the Special Edition, I wasn’t told if it had any extras or not

[@garyprice2869]

Ok thanks very much! Love the locations you guys chose for the vids. Very well done!

[@unclesparks1]

A review of the V9 Bobber or Roamer against the V7 Special would be a good review to do next 😘

[@syuiyui]

I love both bikes but I have V7 in my garage. Congratulations for 100k subscribers!!

[@MrCrabLab]

congrats on 100k brother

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thank you so much 😀

[@user-bh6ox3fu3q]

Just noticed - you have chosen a very good location to show the rider's position on the bikes. Those vertical posts behind (8.40) show a clear picture for those who are wondering how they will seat on the bikes. If it was done on purpose - it was professional, if it was done accidentally - congratulations, you have talent) In general - great job! Very good review and a very comparing. You definately have the style, keep going and good luck! Thank you!

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thank you very much! The posts was an accident, but I did choose the location as it looked cool with the grandstands. And it’s around the corner from the Motoguzzi and royal Enfield uk press facility 😁

[@michalisxenopoulos2192]

Looks like you’ve hit the 100K mark. Congrats.

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thank you!!!

[@andrewdyson4255]

I’ve had the interceptor and the V7 special. The Guzzi wins hands down. Better handling, better performance, shaft over chain, more comfortable. Economy about the same. Hence why I sold the interceptor and kept the Guzzi. Congratulations on the 100k

[@RonnieM]

The Guzzi, I love the side to side it was doing from the sound check. Damn I feel the need to ride one of those now!

[@MrWebon]

Just bought my first bike ever, a continental gt mr clean. It’s the bike of my dreams… But I would’ve bought the guzzi in a heartbeat. its just better overall. But it’s also double the price tag, at least in my country.

[@elisabattle8456]

As far as Italian bikes, I have owned a ducati 860, moto morini 500 camel, laverda 3cl 1000, cagiva 650, and currently have a 1989 Moto Guzzi Mille GT 1000 and a 2013 Moto Guzzi Stone 750. Have owned several German bikes to include BMW and Zundaps. Grew up with British bikes--meaning Triumph and BSA. Have never been interested in Harley. Owned several Suzuki's to include 2-stroke models and the Wankel rotary 750. The Moto Guzzis have been my favorite above all the rest. Quirky, reliable, tractor-like in that the Japanese "refinement" is not there--but if you love just being connected to machinery and sound--Moto Guzzi!--mike battle

[@wellshutchins6885]

50 yrs ago I was considering the Suzuki Rotary when I got my MG 850-T. Had a Mazda R-2. It was the 2 stroke 750 water cooled GT750 "Water Buffalo" that was a 750cc. I considered that too. Had many Hondas, Suzies, BMWs and the mistake of a Sportster - but none had the character of my Interceptor. My V7 comes close... only close

[@barryrussell8431]

Lovely review. I'd go 🇮🇹 too... 🍻

[@crnamrlja]

V7 Special would be my choice. Just awesome.

[@jasm361]

congrats to 100k subs🎉🎉🎉

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thank you so much 😀

[@jeremybyth7991]

While I have a Triumph Speed Twin 1200, 2023 model, I seriously looked at the Moto Guzzi V7 stone in the silver and green paint scheme and my word wasn't it close to being my garage joy, but I just wanted that little bit of extra power underneath me. Great comparison though, I don't think there are 2 "modern retro" bikes out there that are as evenly matched as these two nostalgia machines. Love your vids Darcy and I'm looking forward to seeing a bike comparison in the future where both you and the old man fight it out with your opinions on a pair of similarly matched machines.

[@AjaySingh-228]

This was a great comparison...Overall, it seems like the Moto Guzzi V7 Stone SE is the clear winner for you, but I always go with my all-time favorite bike RE GT 650. Thanks for the informative video bro

[@degutube]

We pay a premium for Moto Guzzi in Australia (over 10,000 pounds for V7 Special models) but I was lucky enough to find a used one in great condition. I also have a RE Classic. Nothing beats the Guzzi on start up but Royal Enfield also gives you much to smile about too. I’ll add one of the reasons I subscribe is because you review bike exhaust notes properly! I’m surprised by how many reviewers that fail to include this. Cheers from 🇦🇺

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Awesome, many thanks 😊

[@rossm9676]

Congratulations on hitting 100k subscribers,did you manage to hit it by your birthday? I know you mentioned that a few vids ago.

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thank you very much! Yes it’s come as an early bday present 😊my birthday is still 2 weeks away

[@relevation0]

I would like a Guzzi but the Enfield does look better. Real classic.

[@Paul-67]

For me it’s the Guzzi, I had a 1988 mk 5 Le Mans. It was great.

[@MrLagnil]

In a parallel twin, both pistons reach top dead center at the same time. In a parallel twin where the pistons move up and down at the same time, the crankshaft angle is 360 degrees.

[@michaelmclarney1994]

Great review and conparison. I love the look of the continental but own an interceptor for comfort and rideability. It would be a much tougher choice too. If the Guzzi had the looks of the Enfield, a used one would be my choice as the price would be similar. 👍

[@JoJo-hc4dj]

Awesome video Mr Darcy 👍🏼 love the Guzzi the best and great to hear the F1 cars ❤

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thank you!

[@DoomNedwob]

I put the official bar end mirrors on my GT a couple of weeks ago and can highly recommend them. Rock solid stability and much better viability behind. It looks so much better to my eyes too 😁

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Good to know!

[@judge831]

I used to love retro bikes, but the I got into neo-retro. Now I want a modern sports-tourer. I feel like I should try a Moto Guzzi cuz of that engine though. Maybe a V100 is in my future.

[@nirajdeshmukh9132]

I own a gt 650 here in India and I look like a kid on the bike 😅, but you look like riding a children's bike.

[@85waspnest]

The Guzzi, preferably the Special version with twin clocks and spoked wheels.

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

👌🏻👌🏻

[@TheNocturnalChaos]

For the continental GT quad lock problem, it's quickly fixed by buying a cross shaped sticky mount. Cheap, reliable and really really quick fix to put your phone on ! :) Also it looks way better than the mirror idea in the video.. very flush

[@georgepaul84]

The disappearing act at 11:02 😆

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

😂didn’t notice that lol

[@veritasvincit2745]

I discovered that the front forks and rear shocks took almost 3000 miles to properly bed in on my 2019 Continental GT and become supple. Handling was much improved. At the start both front and back but especially front felt harsh and particularly crude. I wonder how many riders have upgraded these components before letting the miles kind of macerate them?

[@simoncaddick9085]

Also, that riding stance is "sitting up prone" rather than the proper clip on and rear set of a traditional Cafe Racer, which is a particularly uncomfortable and tiring seating position.

[@veritasvincit2745]

@@simoncaddick9085 I agree. The position is Cafe Racer Lite. I'm 55 with a lower back injury and I've done two hour runs on my Conti without discomfort. The only time I get a problem with it is within the first mile from cold because my hips twinge. Nothing else, just my hips but after a mile they're warm and stretched and I don't get any issues at all.

[@chrisjonesbath]

You missed a big plus on the Guzzi....not Chain! I love shafties.

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Yes very true, how could I forget!

[@richardjohnson3463]

The Guzzi every time, well worth the extra money. Congratulations on the 100k subscribers, well deserved!

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thanks very much!

[@FunWithAJ]

Out of the two i like the look of the RE but id go for the Guzzi. Better specs, more character and theyve cone a long way in terms of reliability in the past 5 years even.

[@duncancleverley6366]

Spot on with your conclusions Darcy.. I’d choose the V7 Special over either of these purely on looks, power and sound.. both of these have small compromises to finish and price that would niggle after 6 months ownership.. not so the V7 Special..

[@albertop2691]

I recently tested an Interceptor, and after literally less than 5 minutes i thought how uncomfortable the seat is! Now I am a very very proud owner of a V7 Special Edition. Hey, what a bike!

[@simtalkayak]

The Guzzi is, in no doubt the better bike in every way imaginable. But with the V7 priced at 12k and the Int650 at 8k.. I know what I'm taking.

[@MGT.joseee]

Love V7 and V85

[@Fifthstone1]

Great video! Thank you! I had cross-shopped the Bonneville, Guzzi and RE. I picked up the Guzzi, same model as in the video, and love it. I think the Guzzi has a better build quality than the RE. Love everything about it. Also picked up a T120 as well a bit later and that is yet another level up from the Guzzi for more power and even better build. Happy with my choices.

[@dustindautreuil5978]

V7 Special with the blacked out bits from the Stone and the wheels/tires from the V9 Bobber. Maybe call it the Special BobStone. Bob SpecialStone. Stoner Special. Idk, but I think it would be the perfect MG for me.

[@leighcoulson2148]

They are pretty much the two bikes I looked (although it was the standard V7 stone). At the time I couldn't stretch to the Moto Guzzi, so went for the Continental. I've fitted aftermarket end pipes (Powerage) and a DNA air filter, bar risers (CooperB bikes) amongst other things, so it sounds much better, is more comfy on the wrists and I'm not disappointed. I would still consider the V7 for a next bike finances allowing (however I can't see happening any time soon ...or later for that matter =¬).

[@ChadWinters]

Curious, after the mods how close your costs are to the moto guzzi?

[@leighcoulson2148]

@@ChadWinters even with all my mods it worked out around £1500 cheaper ...and on top of that I'd probably have wanted to buy a couple of things for the guzzi too (engine bars, small fairing/fly screen).

[@MrJulianneave]

The 850 engine was a really critical upgrade for the V7. The 750 of the previous generation had no more performance than the Enfield 650 (and yes, I have ridden both...) which made it a really hard sell at something like 80% higher price (at least here in Australia). It also didn't handle as well as the Enfield 650s. Combined with the fact that the "better build quality" that Moto Guzzi people used to justify the price difference over the RE 650s was like the Easter bunny (ie: doesn't exist) it just didn't stack up. Sit on one and tell me the gauges, switchgear etc are better than the RE. In fact the latest generation of RE switchgear makes the Guzzi stuff feel like a toy that came out of a kids Happy Meal. Don't get me wrong, I like the V7 and understand that items like the shaft drive etc cost more to build, but I think having more oomph is a selling point that the V7 desperately needed. I'd honestly like to own a Guzzi next, and may end up doing so, I just think their new pricing is a bit out of touch, and is probably reflected in their sales figures.

[@nigelcox7477]

Nice work Darcy… I’m with you - the Guzzi sets the pulse racing, what a pedigree beauty. 👍❤️😎✅

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

It really is!

[@rwortman2]

I bought a V7 Stone Special Edition on looks alone. I also have a T120. Love them both but the Guzzi is a more authentic retro experience. The Triumph is a thoroughly modern bike with retro looks.

[@jacobwilliams1285]

I likes these bikes a lot but as with all the nakeds and retros....I just wish these beautiful bikes were bigger. They are all quite small, from the RE to the Z650RS to the Guzzi V7 and even the Bonneville, wish they had a bit more size and higher seat height would be nice too. I like a retro touring bike or retro adventure. Like a Guzzi V85TT.

[@kirbylechien]

I tried both Interceptor and V7. And the T120. I definitively prefer the Moto Guzzi. This bike is alive! I’m 5.5, the V7 is better for short riders. Congrats for the 100k !!!

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

Thank you 😊

[@ginamiller6015]

From my perspective, an honest motorcycle has spoked wheels and a chain drive. You can have your shaft drive and cast wheels, just not my thing.

[@stevet599]

Guzzi v7 850 special edition! I have one alongside my 2020 T120. Apart from childhood dreams of a Guzzi, shaft drive, tubeless tyres, etc.... it's a winner. I've done 450km days, but that's enough on the Guzzi. The T120, I can do +650km days and not too bad afterwards! (...Corbin seat!). Overall the T120 is a great bike. The Guzzi is, as you say, for the character... which comes in bucketfulls! It makes all sorts of noises , whines, clicks, rattles... dry clutch... if it was one my previous Hondas I would be concerned 😟.... apparently all this is normal. After the "break in" period the bike seems to get better the more miles you put on it! Now at 5k km. The T120 has 43k km ...and going strong as well - new chains, tubed tyres.... PITA to check valves etc. So far, the Guzzi has been easy to maintain. FYI - I'm in NW British Columbia and the nearest "dealership" is about 1500km away. I have always done my own maintenance. The only bike that almost "defeated" me, was my Africa Twin! I called it my origami bike.... access needed so much work to do the simplest things.... Then again it was a Honda, so maybe I shouldn't have tried to poke around inside. Apologies, I know this isn't a "Forum"... just giving some feedback PS I'm a subscriber and enjoy your chit-chat comparisons. Perhaps you could add a little more "ride out countryside" on the bikes as folks like to see where you are??

[@MrDarcy-OlMan]

More of the countryside rides coming soon 👍🏼👍🏼

[@rudraagarwal6402]

The gt 650 looks really gr8 specially the chrome silver one but the only prob occurs is its riding position but I guess its in most cafe racers

[@sd3457]

I love the V7 but down here in NZ, it's 50% more $$ for the Stone and you could probably stick an 865 kit on the Conti for that money. They get a bit more comparable on the used market though, if you're prepared to go with a V7 II 750.

[@user-pg8lr8me9j]

V7's do exist in the uk I am fortunate enough to own a 2023 Guzzi v7 Stone (Lichfield staffs) - and can confirm it is truly a wonderful motorcycle. There is nothing else on the market anywhere near like a guzzi - They are in a category of their own - Quirky - yes! - Perfect no!. but constantly puts a smile on my face (but to be fair so does my enfield 500 C5 classic. Wasn't sure about the speedo at first (always liked twin dials) but guess what its actually pretty good and now love it!. I would argue that a comparison with the interceptor would be a better due to the higher bars etc. And which would I pick - well I one of them already and i have ridden the enfield 650's a lot and would confidently state that either would be an excellent buy and in the real world both have enough usable power to satisfy most riders needs! - I am actually planning to get either the interceptor or meteor 650 to keep my bikes company (or may even go for the Himalayan).

[@markrichardson8378]

The guzzi,it looks fantastic,I just wish the twin dials were fitted to both the stone & the special edition.

[@Lee-70ish]

Nice bikes very different price points . The Enfield imho looks far more retro and better in that roll. But obviously shaft drive is a selling point and Guzzi's for me are a lovely vee layout. The Californian was a super cruiser.

[@MalcolmStaines]

The Guzzi for me, but then I am completely biased.

[@kristophertrout7328]

Guzzi... V7 Special. My dealer has a white one for a demo and I am tempted to try to buy it if they decide to sell it. 🤔😎

[@Mrmantiss]

do the interceptor next