Rude Property Entrepreneurs Infuriate The Dragons | Dragons' Den

[@liliangreen9504]

The minute he said "my turn?", his fate was sealed, and he was doomed to standing on the edge of his fishpond with rod in hand.

[@AlessandroAloisi23]

😂 facts 🎣

[@x-Chicken-x]

Completely, if someone in the street said that to me, I would turn away. No time for sarcasm in business!

[@LdevArt]

@@x-Chicken-xless time for snowflakes emotions. go and cry on your mummys apron strings

[@MaryVandenAnker]

I like the way he shut that case dwn Beta to talk straight

[@thavambase6907]

Seriously not sure how Theo put up with that I would have kicked him out that very second

[@aliorr9356]

I think the walk up the stairs nearly finished one of them off 😂

[@jackd9928]

Yeah I think they brought in the lift after this episode 😂

[@orlakathleen95]

Right? He was almost dry heaving for the first five minutes

[@NekoInk13]

I was really concerned lol I was convinced he wouldn't finish the pitch!

[@nissan_skyline]

Lol for real, they could've taken the elevator.

[@BionicPig95]

He’s just British

[@callesierra]

It’s probably a good idea to not be rude,smug and arrogant when asking people to give you money.

[@feonor26]

Ya think? 😂

[@tmrevenge]

Now that you mention it!

[@andrewguthrie2]

They're not giving money. They are taking it.

[@gaycha6589]

Ever seen a politician?

[@hmq9052]

Worked for Nigel Farage

[@thejacquoranda]

“I was involved in multi-level marketing” aka I narrowly avoided jail for running a pyramid scheme.

[@AttitudeCharter]

Seriously ignorant comment.

[@royms2000]

Yeah, I would've said "I'm out" just because of that.

[@JoshF848]

This pair should team up with sweaty Barry and his water machine

[@cherylgraham3004]

​@@JoshF848😂

[@corbinmartin1711]

Pyramid Schemes aren't illegal. They are just flimsy business models.

[@HayLeesHomeMade]

"what's your experience" "Multilevel marketing" "What was the model" "The model we're using" "What happened" "It failed" "Why should i invest then" "It's the people's fault not the business model"

[@davidjames579]

It was the customers fault for not buying. This time we'll have better customers.

[@bizuett]

​@@davidjames579😂😂😂

[@Tim_3100]

​@@davidjames579it wasnt them ethier it was the neighbours fault for not buying 😂

[@CrewofBigW]

It’s them Spanish with their olives

[@Angry-Lynx]

Well he got a point there. Do businesses fail only because of business models? No it's also very often mismanagement, especially for bigger companies

[@Thepopcornator]

Surprised none of them called the 'multi-level marketing' guy out for having been involved in selling pyramid schemes.

[@bagofdoom7693]

Because the dragons rather not be sued

[@Thepopcornator]

@@bagofdoom7693 Why would they be sued? That is literally what multi-level marketing is.

[@RenegadeShepTheSpacer]

@@bagofdoom7693 Sued for calling a spade a spade?

[@Cloak1972]

@@Thepopcornator because there is actually a difference between the two.

[@SamRoads]

It's not the same, though it may feel the same. MLM is legal. Pyramid is not. Avon are MLM. Bernie Madoff was pyramid.

[@jst5679]

I can't tell if he's nervous or out breath putting his sale sign up

[@AScaryOrange123]

Probably both. Quite the hefty fella.

[@awsumawstun]

It’s the stairs. That’s why they ended up putting the elevator in. People kept getting out of breath walking up them and going straight into the pitch

[@RenegadeShepTheSpacer]

@@awsumawstun And for wheelchair users.

[@AScaryOrange123]

@@awsumawstun A normal person should'nt be out of breath from walking up the stairs.

[@jackbizzell7136]

He's a big fella about to do a nerve racking pitch which is broadcast on national telly with a clear nervous demeanour to him. Even if he wasn't a hefty lad I'd wager he'd be struggling regardless.

[@Pihasanddunes1]

1:00. Had to smile when the first dude introduced his partner like he was Warren Buffett while said partner stood there actually glowing. It didn't get better

[@scienceevolves4417]

I love how smug and enigmatic gila stranda looked in the beginning, who would have thought he would turn into that combative character 😅

[@TheSphere29]

Right?! 😂

[@_LilacRoses]

😂😂😂

[@michaelrasmussen6318]

Dude was probably his mentor and idol.

[@Shae_Sandybanks]

I was wondering if the guy was mute, by the way he was introduced

[@aaliyah9832]

Duncan - "Whatever you do, I'm out" 🤣🤣 I love him

[@H.hipster]

Erm eut*

[@Shivian124]

Yeah this guy seems impossible to work with. Duncan's called it early.

[@Zebsy]

Savage, and completely fair

[@scienceevolves4417]

Didn't get his point Did he honestly unironically suggest that people are not buying houses?!

[@MrIlleism]

Before you start, I'm out - Jenny Campbell

[@Solarcrest05]

Never knew Colonel Sanders was in the property market.

[@hoobsgroove]

Didn't you know he sells chicken coops 😆

[@Haywood-Jablomie]

It was originally called Kentucky Properties and Fried Chicken... Why doesn't anyone other than me remember the good old days of buying a 2 million dollar house and getting a free $20 bucket of chicken ?

[@anubusx]

John Hammond.

[@keithrobertson5110]

He doesn't he's been brown bread for years.

[@nazmiah8013]

Colonel Sanders couldn’t even spell country correctly

[@MTRAdmiralty]

Being rude to the Dragons then storming out? That's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.

[@mccarthy5825]

I love this comment 👍 😂

[@chrisklitou7573]

Ah I love dodgeball

[@bigkuriboh3814]

I can't recall him storming off??

[@danny-vt6qn]

@@bigkuriboh3814 at the end

[@scottsmith9192]

Comment good right here! You win for me! I swear the comment section is half the entertainment of watching a YT vid

[@Mohammed-yc6nn]

People often forget personality and the character of a businessman also plays a big part in whether someone should receive and investment or not. The way he says “My turn” in a confrontational, Almost condescending manner, speaks volumes.

[@crusherven]

Eh, Theo or whoever it was had it coming. He made such a big deal about not wanting to be interrupted, or not wanting the sales guy to just start talking, he was in a lose-lose situation.

[@VladmirPoopN]

You know he left and gossiped that it was the Dragons who were arrogant and egotistical

[@JC-bh6gu]

to be fair they often are@@VladmirPoopN

[@darryl2542]

He said it TWICE. Dramatic pauses and everything. He was making his moment.

[@actthree7810]

Yup. I think he actually did know more than the dragons but he rubbed their faces in it.

[@tonygrinney7115]

"Commission only" is a code for crap wages. So I certainly wouldn't back them.

[@andrewvelonis5940]

No, with commission only, there are no wages, crap or otherwise. You eat what you kill.

[@awsumawstun]

I’m a realtor in the States and I can’t imagine NOT being commission only.

[@RenegadeShepTheSpacer]

@@awsumawstun I can't imagine it either, although not for the reasons you probably think.

[@C414AC]

Do you know what ‘only’ means?

[@davidjames579]

@@awsumawstun How do you live?

[@republicofhandball8815]

I believe it's the first time when I watch Dragons Den without even understanding the business model.

[@MrMaxel3]

I watched it like two times just to try and get what I was missing. I have a vague idea that it is some MLM using realstate but...

[@Asavaka]

It’s basically mlm but they had no idea how mlm works From what I gathered the ones working wouldn’t make much at all and would’ve ended up in their pockets

[@arthurmorgan8529]

The model is simple just not good

[@anyexpat]

MLS site is where the listing agent splits commission with any agent that sells the property and the MLS site lists all properties for a fee that is in part split between all agents and the MLS host.

[@anyexpat]

@@Asavaka It is basically not MLM. MLM involves recruiting other people who then recruit other people to sell low value products to friends and social circles. MLS sites allow agents to share more properties with clients and share commission with the original agent.

[@Sharpie_17]

lmao the way every single dragon went totally silent and let him stew in the awkwardness after he said "my turn?"

[@darryl2542]

TWICE. He said it TWICE. I genuinely couldn't believe it.

[@QUANTUMJOKER]

"It's not the business model that failed. It's people... Businesses don't fail. Airplanes don't crash. Pilots crash airplanes. The people fail." Wow, Gil - way to throw your business partner, who managed a failed business with your realtor method, under the bus.

[@Fyreflier]

I did a double-take when I heard that because I honestly thought for a second that it was The Donald speaking

[@salemkid1979]

@@Fyreflier I hope your TDS can get better

[@happyliving1922]

@@salemkid1979 "Everyone who dislikes my cult leader is mentally ill" 🤓

[@HajheerForoutan]

Not to mention it's the same "people" so it will fail again, so he shot himself in the foot there with that logic but considering he took a 12 gage in his mouth with his attitude, that didn't matter

[@graymonk5972]

also even that analogy is bs. sometimes mechanical parts of planes suddenly break, very rarely of course (even rarer assuming it was a problem no one knew about or could’ve prevented). not every plane crash has a person at fault, and some planes are just built poorly or an airline is mismanaged so they’re setting their pilots up for failure

[@cheetobreath123]

"built a business from multi level marketing" I mean the proposal already sounded terrible, but then he said that at the end.... NOPE

[@jasoncreighton5140]

"built a business from multi level marketing" - MLM, Which the FBI warns you not to get involved with

[@JewTube001]

@@jasoncreighton5140 FBI? the government should just ban it outright instead of LE suggesting you don't join it.

[@rebharath]

peter's analysis, in such a short time, is really impressive.

[@33LB]

keep in mind this is TV. they likely know what the business is before its pitched, and there are likely to be other experts involved who do a lot of the analysis and come up with the questions beforehand.

[@brandonbishop8262]

Peter is a genius that’s why

[@ChrisPatrick-q6k]

Indeed, they were cained like dogs

[@thesnackbandit]

This is edited down from probably 45 minutes of raw footage. Not saying it isn’t impressive, but do not be misled.

[@96bmb]

@@thesnackbandit Heard on a pod with one of the dragons that its about 1,5-3h per pitch with breaks and recounting and fact checking etc etc. They do 2-3 pitches per day apparently.

[@paulstannard7985]

The realtor business model in the USA these two scam artists describe is absolutely the worst. I know from first hand experience.

[@lononjdl]

yooo, wake up, tell us how it differs pls :)

[@mikema4896]

In USA realtors charge 6% of the value of your house. So 60,000 for 1,000,000 house.

[@kylewilson2819]

⁠​⁠@@mikema4896Exactly. So the sale of a single house can set you up for a whole year basically. And sell enough houses, and you’re set for life. The problem with the model presented was that it provided a truly paltry amount of commission, was going into a stagnant market, and was culturally insensitive to consumers and potential employees.

[@thezachman1]

​​@@mikema4896if this comment was written in 2022, I'll tell you they get less than 6% these days. Even worse now. The entire industry is dying

[@bentrend]

3:36 the slow zoom with the music after Peter’s comment, hahah. I can’t stop replaying it

[@llinoscarpe]

Their business went belly up in Dec '21 for those wondering how it went (according to company house) I guess it was because of bad people.

[@usernameloading4695]

That Gil fella died in 2018

[@jdjd9935]

​@@usernameloading4695dragons had him whacked

[@rgw5991]

@@usernameloading4695 good

[@rodhuy01]

Gil died in 2018. seemed to be involved in a Mgmt Training co he setup in Germany for yrs beforehand

[@laganas2008]

​@@jdjd9935Peter was a made guy and Richard wasn't.

[@B_Ahmed1234]

Multi level marketing? So the guy ran a pyramid scheme lmao.

[@jasoncreighton5140]

Laughable ! He is a twit

[@KaitoGillscale]

No shocker that the only strategy the MLM guy knows is trying to talk over people and be a generally rude person.

[@rich2907]

“I failed at other pyramid schemes, so I joined a different one.” Ladies and gents, to your right you’ll see a scammer and to your left you’ll see his mark.

[@michaelfowler5760]

That dude breathing heavy just standing there.

[@S.Trades]

Desperately unhealthy.

[@deerheart87]

​@@S.Tradesdesperately

[@jaybrown1172]

I mean god damn, breathing is just insane. This guy is gonna have a shortness of breath walking up stairs - Might want to get him to a hospital, ASAP.

[@WillScarlet1991]

Just nerves.

[@THENASDAQTR4DER]

When [he] interrupted and said “ok well neither was I but go ahead” followed by “my turn”, I truly thought he was going to get destroyed by the dragons. Instead I learned a valuable lesson-never give people a taste of their own medicine...because they already know what it tastes like. The composure of the dragons, and the humility within their responses; they didn’t need to rip him apart because they destroyed him with intelligence, eloquence and manner. Their humbleness is truly inspiring. I guess that’s how they became dragons in the first place...

[@adekoyaaweda9346]

That's why I watch the show.

[@vikvegas8593]

Just because they are rich they want to insult people. Same with Gordon Ramsay. Why shouldn't someone be rude to them? If I meet you and you are rude to me, then why shouldn't I be rude in return?

[@chrislaw4189]

@@vikvegas8593 Absolutely not. Two wrongs don't make a right

[@swisspunker94]

in this instance they did pretty well. But make no mistake, there are plenty of moments where all the dragons (especially peter and theo) behaved very poorly

[@sisekelomangisa5622]

@@swisspunker94 Duncan too 😭😂

[@danniantagonist]

The way these dragons dealt with potential conflict with these odious characters, by giving it silence and space, was an absolute masterclass in letting a fool dig his own grave. Bravo all round!

[@S.Trades]

Their idea is rubbish. Estate agency works just fine. They claim it doesn't work.

[@stped77]

1:00 Guys I think you all underestimate who you're talking about, this is THE Gil Ostrander. Show some respect.

[@S.Trades]

Someone 99% of people have never heard of. What makes him special?

[@dellx3048]

Maybe big in USA “ different there “ and nobody knows him here so has to earn respect

[@stped77]

@@S.Trades Lol I was being sarcastic mate.

[@stped77]

@@dellx3048 Lol I was being sarcastic - the face he was pulling was just so priceless

[@roybatty4687]

​@@S.Tradesit's Gil Ostrander. What more do you need to know?

[@adamgillett1]

0:49 how do you turn up for an investment pitch with a f***ing typo 🤦‍♂️

[@lululacanuck3824]

What typo?

[@adamgillett1]

@lululacanuck3824 the one at 0:49

[@gallifrey1985]

I really loved Hilary. She was sharp and to the point. But she was always fair and wise

[@rodhoek1046]

Agreed

[@kevindunlap5525]

RIP to a real gem.

[@mizhomesiq]

I really missed her in the Den. RIP to a great entrepreneur.

[@CabbageYe]

She looks like a villain

[@whysoserious9746]

@@CabbageYe He*

[@Lunchladydoyle]

Would have liked to see their remarks after this disastrous pitch. Old boy sure doesn’t like being questioned !!

[@g9isaac]

There's probably a reason why they didn't show them!

[@JazzyMarineVet]

He is a scammer and he got called out on national TV about their scams, so I guess it hurt his pride his feelings

[@cambs0181]

He's a very private man. Spendiing all those years hiding his secret recipe for his fried chicken has done that to him.

[@Lunchladydoyle]

@@cambs0181 😂😂😂😂

[@Hartley_Hare]

@@cambs0181 Genius.

[@redblade8160]

Dishonest people are always on the defence and get rude when their corruption is exposed.

[@lostboys_uk]

Did anyone else think 'Gil Ostrander' was a one word first name, like some badass medieval knight

[@Maynards_so_blue]

Or a villian

[@jacksseawheeze2911]

Yeah I did 😂

[@robrobroblol]

Me too. 😂

[@Wulfyr]

Absolutely. There was no gap between the syllables. "Gilostränder the Mighty".

[@waynetompkins3006]

I was a business reporter and when I'd interview people like this, the first tell was always defensiveness and indiignation in response to an incisive question.

[@DudeWatIsThis]

0:14 My brain: "plos" Also my brain: "Wait a minute, that can't be "plos", dude." My brain (again): "PLOS"

[@MrPaulc222]

I didn't understand what they were offering, but if I were a dragon I would have struggled to work with the two people.

[@coc235]

Don't worry, it's just a good old pyramid scheme.

[@kevinprior3549]

I always love the banter between Theo and Peter

[@RobDucharme]

10:35 I'd love to know where he got the "pilot error" stat. I'm not going to look it up, but I watch enough Mentour Pilot videos to know that planes often present the pilot with issues that the pilot is forced to resolve, not the other way around.

[@feonor26]

True, but a lot of accidents also happens because of human error. I saw one episode where the guy who refilled the fuel on the airplane confused metric and imperial measuring system. Luckily the pilot managed to glide the airplane to an airport without engines. Another accident that ended up fatal, the pilots misunderstood the numbers on the flight plan leading them to fly half the journey in the wrong direction which ended with them going empty on fuel in the middle of nowhere and crash.

[@alanm6454]

I wouldn't trust either of them to sell a house for me tbh.

[@GregBiggs]

RIP Hillary 🙏 ❤️‍🔥

[@Elizabethedwards-j1u]

God bless her soul ❤️

[@HESHRocketWarhead]

I sense that I've missed an important bit of news somewhere.

[@Elizabethedwards-j1u]

@@HESHRocketWarhead Oh hun she sadly passed on the 11th of June in her home in Morocco 2022

[@HESHRocketWarhead]

@@Elizabethedwards-j1u Bitch'm! Natural causes?

[@ghs7714]

Rip Duncan xo

[@suesmith3744]

RIP Hilary , my fav Dragon 🕊️

[@user-lx3oi6xy2e]

And Gil 😢

[@richard7645]

She can't take it with her

[@tedcrilly46]

T shaped coffin.

[@DK-sz8lz]

She was their version of Barbara.

[@Red-Red-Red-Red]

Duncan's typical response is , "I dont understand the product, i dont get the product and i dont get you - im out"

[@hiimjustin8826]

Selling houses? Why those are just a couple pieces of wood with a door handle strapped to the front. I'm oot

[@kevinprior3549]

He's often quick

[@anthonyjohnson6973]

Commission only jobs always brought out the worst behaviour in the worst people. That’s why in the USA they still exist and here they don’t

And its not an stable job either

[@millys4368]

Are car salesman in Europe salary?

[@hotshower695]

@@millys4368 yes

[@dabeveryday9991]

they do exist here

[@chambersstreetproductions]

So why are British ppl still terrible?

[@jacquesmains7453]

@1:18 the sign says "counrty".

[@mauharley]

🤣

[@JewTube001]

wow. would have been funny if the dragons brought it up.

[@theJuggler07]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@maninacave]

Thank you! I saw that, and because nobody seemed to mention it, I started to believe it was my eyes 🤣

[@davidloughlin2238]

Something about Hilary that I always liked. There has been no dragon before or since like her, complete one off. I miss her on the show.

[@amac203]

may she rest in peace

[@hannahcorinne5388]

Peace 🤦‍♀️ if you’re gonna wish someone farewell have the respect to spell it right at least. Piece sounds like she was dismembered…

[@amac203]

@@hannahcorinne5388 whoops

[@kevindunlap5525]

@@hannahcorinne5388 It's 2023. Last two Gens couldn't care less.

[@tobymacdonald5893]

@@kevindunlap5525 the deadbeat boomers have arrived!

[@RockyDave]

Very argumentative little guy. Makes for good entertainment though.

[@iielysiumx5811]

“I was involved in multi level marketing” ah, so you were a professional scammer?

[@Natedawg38]

John Hammond has really fallen from grace ever since his island burned down.

[@elloowu6293]

Wasn't he dead before that happened?

[@seanjosephhayes]

Spared no expense!

[@trequor]

​@@elloowu6293That's what the government WANTS you to think

[@Ennis85]

@@elloowu6293 In the book yes.

[@Elizabethedwards-j1u]

I love Hilary short and straight to the point ❤

[@amac203]

rip

[@kevindunlap5525]

She had more integrity than most all of the DenSharks. RIP good lady.

[@toffeelatte6042]

She was a great addition to the Den, RIP.

[@badrrharri]

She's dead now

[@Elizabethedwards-j1u]

@@badrrharri how is that helpful

[@BeastTheMadness]

It's so convoluted I need a drink after listening to these two. Also Gil talks! Who would've thought!

[@franklinegbuche7097]

First show I ever watched and didn't understand what was on offer. Either way, these guys were combative than convincing.

[@philbecker4676]

Yeah I didn't get it either.

[@poeterritory]

I'm not sure, but I think he was offering them a ham sandwich.

[@HyperMario64]

6:01 is such a crazy comment. This aired in 2011.

[@CorgiDaddy2]

Bad idea to anger people who can give you lots of money.

[@violet-ch4of]

My man was really fighting for this life during that pitch

[@feonor26]

He dug his own grave and jumped in it with both feet 😂

[@domformula1]

At those sorts of figures the sales force would have to sell a few places a day to just wash their faces in terms of a salary

[@kingarthur5110]

10:27 Today i learned that airplanes are the perfect machine: they have never suffered ANY mechanical issues in their 100+ year history and are impervious to outside forces like weather. Incredible. The more you know.

[@jamesroberts1964]

“Pilots crash planes, technical faults only account for 1% of aviation accidents.” Spontaneous bullish!t at its best.

[@armchairgeneralissimo]

Yep he was making up statistics pilot error accounts for about 53% of aviation accidents. Human error which includes pilots, mechanics and ATC is responsible for 80% of aviation accidents.

[@davidjames579]

100% of Statistics are made up on the spot.

[@AH-be6bu]

You could see the alarm bells ringing in Peter Jones' head from the first minute they mentioned 'straight commission model' and 'active sales force'.

[@axeman14]

This is Gil Ostrander. He is an evil genius who wants to destroy our universe before returning to a far away galaxy…

[@carolusmagnus9757]

He sounds like he was about to drop dead while delivering his pitch

[@elloowu6293]

Those 2 felt like a bit from a show in an alternate universe, like Pinky and the Brain

[@Partyanimal1066]

No….pinky and perky.

[@kallekillen2285]

"I used to sell snakeoil then i started a vitamin company which went bankrupt. Anyhow would you like invest in my new vitamin company?"

[@stigmata454]

What a combative little gnome. Did he think he was there to fight real dragons?

[@leonardu6094]

LMFAOO0

[@PixxieAlexx]

Brilliant description, combative little gnome hahahaha

[@SlinkiestTortoise23]

This comment deserves thousands of likes!!!

[@happyuk06]

Not my perception. I think the Dragons were afraid that he knew more about real estate than they did.

[@Muddy283]

@@happyuk06 No. He was just plain rude (4:14-4:42 and 5:28-6:22). That is what they didn't like. Impossible to do business with a gentleman like that.

[@sambraham4677]

6:24 why is this sooooo funny haha the way he keeps looking at him in shock like he is saying: how dare you? lol

[@Kcarneirowashere]

Debara: “I don’t like the way your wig is sewed in, & for that reason I’m out.”

[@ayannacowie3052]

🤣🤣🤣🤣💀

[@cpotisch]

10:09 the absolute highlight. Dying.

[@caz3502]

Did anyone else notice the spelling cockup on the P Jones sign? Town and Counrty

[@darryl2542]

And the missing apostrophe in "don't". Can't hire a proofreader on those commissions, apparently.

[@cambs0181]

That was quite uncomfortable. I was half expecting Theo to get up and slap him about a bit.

[@NutkinsO]

The sheer silence in the room when he said my turn.... Thank god the sound designers didnt overdo it. Just let the words stew.

[@RobDucharme]

Gil looks like he should be bilking his congregation out of millions of dollars. And Richard sounds so nervous that he's about to be turned down by his potential prom date.

[@Skipper-j2z]

Him on left is thinking i wish i came on here by my self now.

[@jamest3336]

them stairs killed bro

[@ondank]

"30 guys doing that everyday" ... Except that wouldn't happen. Estate agent offices boast about selling a couple hundred houses a year in their extremely small territories.

[@kevinprior3549]

What about poor Peter Jones? Love that bit from Theo

[@RevanParker]

The silence @4:56 lol. They're all like, 'You messed up'

[@sadas3190]

The pitch couldnt have gone worse if they put up red flags instead of sales boards.

[@GodotOfficial]

Touker would have been interested if these estate agents were listing prime London office spaces instead

[@MrZenzio]

Too true.

[@davidjames579]

No, they'd be competition.

[@Siptom369]

I love how he is called Dunkan Valentine in the video description

[@timwebster2537]

Good work spell checking those signs.

[@houseguest4534]

Please someone get this guy some oxygen ASAP I couldn't help but be extremely worried about him the entire pitch!!!!!!

[@harrynking777]

Peter Jones made it very clear the reasons why it would not work.

[@MarvelX42]

No, if a plane fails because of a mechanical problem it is the mechanics (or maybe the parts manufacturers) fault.

[@machtnichtsseimann]

He would say that's more of human error.

[@Questionable_creations]

@@machtnichtsseimann true, but either way not the pilots fault

[@machtnichtsseimann]

@@Questionable_creations - Splitting hairs.

[@SuigaRou]

@@machtnichtsseimann It's not splitting hairs when the guy literally said "pilots crash airplanes". Calling it out is valid.

[@machtnichtsseimann]

@@SuigaRou - It's splitting hairs over to what infinitesimal degree we are now dissecting where "human error" is at play. Focus on Col. Sanders' mindset / analogy and you'll get what my point was. Unless you want to get lost in the weeds on distracting minutiae.

[@bellerophonchallen8861]

I didn't think they were hugely rude, they're just the sort of people who stop you at the supermarket and badger you into signing on with some dodgy energy company.

[@EsteemedReptile]

That is hugely rude.

[@jackbizzell7136]

Long hand for "they're not hugely rude just mid tier rude"

[@kevinprior3549]

Hate it when people answer a question with a question. It is so rude and disrespectful.

[@TyroneBishop-e7p]

"When the beast is hungry, it will find a way to get fed!" - ha, she isn't wrong, amazing!

[@markmcclure9581]

The multi-level guy was in a diet scheme and it failed miserably when he tried to sell it

[@jordy619hi]

Feel for Richard. He seemed really polite and proud of his idea. Shame his partner opened his mouth

[@funstuff2006]

A weasel and a fox walk into the Dragon's Den - it goes about how you'd expect. That guy couldn't convince me water was wet if I doubted it for a second, so I don't know how he managed to run MLM in any capacity.

[@tumbleweed4026]

09:42 CC did Theo dirty: 'Theo Per Fetus', lol

[@michaelyates5976]

By the sound of the first man's lungs, he won't be around long enough to seal any deal.

[@nacerdjaafri9919]

4th chapter's title on KZbin says Duncan Valentine

[@QUANTUMJOKER]

I think the title is a little misleading. Gil Ostrander is very rude and arrogant, but his business partner Richard Williams is modest and forthcoming, and he never interrupts the Dragons or forces his opinions on them.

[@TheDudeDiary]

Yeah, Richard was modest….he also admitted he made his money pulling off a pyramid scheme but yeah, at least he never interrupted anyone.

[@QUANTUMJOKER]

@@TheDudeDiary Yes, pyramid schemes are shady and unscrupulous, but my statement is still accurate. Gil is rude to the Dragons, but Richard is not.

[@breadpirateoverhere]

The interaction at 04:13 is incredible. Comedy writers wish they could write scenes this awkward.

[@lucymoody4927]

Rude Property Entrepreneurs is our new band name

[@Elizabeth-ud7fs]

Okg that first guy could hardly talk with being out of breath climbing those stairs 😂

[@getpoked2498]

yikes, 9:52 He literally said he started a MLM

[@RM-ti8nf]

Not embarrassed by it either, must think it's a respectable way to do business...

[@backinthadayz]

The look on Peter Jones face at the end, just said "For crying out loud!"

[@mattbiggs4085]

Gil reminds me of one of the killers in Columbo....too clever for his own good but you know he's going to get found out in the end

[@Hockey_G]

What did they need the money for? The business that they had envisioned could be built by bootstrapping the business.

[@neaituppi7306]

I worked for a master electrician that was like that. He would make bad decisions and often set you up to fail, then try and convince you it was your fault. The people failed!!