Is Hydro Steering Safe for the Road???

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Rudys Adventure and Design

Rudys Adventure and Design

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@cudaman-yq7pq
@cudaman-yq7pq Жыл бұрын
Great video! IMO, take your homemade hoses to a hydraulic shop and have beefy high pressure hoses made. Then throw the homemade hoses in your carry bag for emergency spares. :)
@rlfdavin
@rlfdavin Жыл бұрын
agreed, and its not very expensive, and they will handle wayyy more pressure
@99unclebob
@99unclebob Жыл бұрын
Wrong, in this application reusable fittings or crimp on fittings are ok , you misspend what he said that he had the hose at too great of an angle and the fitting type makes no difference , all hydraulic lines don't handle sharp bends or angles well, when you talk hydraulic applications higher volume and PSI then crimp on is stronger than reusable, I have been able to get people back on the road in shorter time periods if their power steering has reusable ends, then its a new piece of hose $20 and a quart of fluid, so under $100 ,40 yrs in the industry and they're still good 👍
@just_inolredneck8319
@just_inolredneck8319 Жыл бұрын
@@99unclebob agreed 👍
@blacksquirrel4008
@blacksquirrel4008 Жыл бұрын
But this isn’t “power steering” is it? Isn’t it fully hydraulic, no steering box or rack?
@bigfun4212
@bigfun4212 Жыл бұрын
Both are correct. Time and budget often make ideal, harder than the fun is worth.
@gcslade7487
@gcslade7487 Жыл бұрын
I'm always amazed at Rudy's positive attitude and skills. Fun to watch the development and testing of Hydro steering and how it handled that tough rock course. Maybe it's time to call the Rubicon "3/4 Dun" 😉
@jdgvee9313
@jdgvee9313 Жыл бұрын
Or "Morr than 1/2 Dun"
@B.Colby107
@B.Colby107 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Rudy has to keep a positive attitude cuz Andy always seems to be negative lol. I guess some may call Andy realistic and Rudy optimistic. But sure are making leaps on the Jeep and the channel great work
@gcslade7487
@gcslade7487 Жыл бұрын
@@jdgvee9313 Or " > 1/2 Dun"
@danbierschbach7743
@danbierschbach7743 Жыл бұрын
I was just getting ready to write that!
@i-_-am-_-g1467
@i-_-am-_-g1467 Жыл бұрын
@@jdgvee9313 this
@rickdavidson7951
@rickdavidson7951 Жыл бұрын
The drone shots make a huge difference in your video. Seeing the entire area your working in gives the viewer a complete comparison of terrain size and difficulty.. An excellent video!
@TViper2369
@TViper2369 Жыл бұрын
Another cool point to it is that Rudy himself is setting the drone up. It has a pretty good "follow me" feature on it.
@20tea
@20tea Жыл бұрын
The drone shot almost looks like watching video game. ;)
@tmill2001
@tmill2001 Жыл бұрын
Rudy and Matt have the same aversion to knowing how much fuel they have! Definitely feel the brotherly love "it's gonna break..."! Keep the vids coming guys. Upgrade and test!
@brunomortensen5841
@brunomortensen5841 Жыл бұрын
The fuel problem ... it's a family thing
@tedfisk1211
@tedfisk1211 Жыл бұрын
It is kind of cool watching Rudy and his brothers working on the same project and having fun doing so.
@xxriderxx7
@xxriderxx7 Жыл бұрын
Andy is my absolute fav. His dry sense of humor is so good haha
@helenlegallais4208
@helenlegallais4208 Жыл бұрын
I don’t about Andy having a dry sense of humour but more of a pessimist personality maybe 😂
@i-_-am-_-g1467
@i-_-am-_-g1467 Жыл бұрын
He's the reality check, we all need an Andy by our sides telling us we've messed up haha
@leeheggie7043
@leeheggie7043 Жыл бұрын
yes his glass is always half empty never half full lol
@sjaime00723
@sjaime00723 Жыл бұрын
It means your Jeep sucks. 😂😂. Awesome response.
@TheMarshallReed
@TheMarshallReed Жыл бұрын
@@helenlegallais4208 almost feels like Andy doesn’t want to be there but there mom wants them together and Rudy is all for it😂
@teamxj987
@teamxj987 Жыл бұрын
Hey Rudy I think you need to go to crimp style hydraulic fittings given how the old line failed for some added safety. I would make two sets and keep and extra set in the jeep. Enjoy watching you guys makes me miss living out West
@Littletwin2
@Littletwin2 Жыл бұрын
Andy did great job filming. Love his attitude
@Crewsy
@Crewsy Жыл бұрын
You might still have steering if just the engine dies but you will not have steering if one of the lines blow. That means you don’t have a fail safe which is why I believe the DOT doesn’t allow full hydro steering on the road. Your brakes don’t rely on one line to stop so you still have brakes if one line blows.
@samleen
@samleen Жыл бұрын
And even then you have the me hanical(hopefully) parking/ e-brake
@BarnacleBrown
@BarnacleBrown Жыл бұрын
I would NOT put my hopes in the last sentence you've made. Although you may not instantly lose all your brakes if 1 line goes. but you can and likely still will lose brakes very quickly especially if you use the peddle a couple times and empty the reservoir through the broken line. The auxiliary/parking brake hopefully still works (but that's a separate system you could add to the steering too for the same redudancy)
@Khell3770
@Khell3770 Жыл бұрын
I run equipment for a living and much of it is now full hydro steering. Tractors, backhoes, etc are mostly full hydro and the systems are pretty tough and also been around for decades. If your relying on the system to bring you home it's often a good idea to take what you need with you to replace or repair a hose in the field as the big downside of these systems is when they fail, you have no control. I didn't see you do anything that would have caused the failure (no operator error that I could see) and it appeared to be a mechanical failure. Testing your system like your doing in this video close to home is a very good idea for anyone who wants to convert their vehicle to a full hydro system. Thanks for the video Rudy.
@BlueDually4x4
@BlueDually4x4 Жыл бұрын
Once you are happy with the way the hoses are routed, I would get them made with crimped fittings and use the ones you made as spares. It would eliminate a point of failure just from working loose over time due to engine and vehicle vibrations. Seems like a pretty solid set up after you get everything dialed in.
@anythingroam2423
@anythingroam2423 Жыл бұрын
Collin buddy you are never too old or cool to wear a helmet around the rocks on that 4 wheeler. I know you ride safly but we wanna keep you around!!!! I am 31 this year and the ONLY reason I am 31 is thanks to a helmet while go karting, then while 4 wheeling, then again on a dirtbike, then one more time while snowboarding.
@mcrwatts
@mcrwatts Жыл бұрын
I'm greatly amused by Rudy's positive outlook on anything, immediately followed by Andy's pessimistic response. The content is getting even better! Keep up the great work
@61rampy65
@61rampy65 Жыл бұрын
I loved the cutaway to the off road floor jack, still in the box! (With the little doggie guarding it).
@bullittdog4352
@bullittdog4352 Жыл бұрын
The worst part is that $16 a quart PS fluid hittin the ground! The steering videos are coming at the perfect time..I’m swapping out my PSC assist for full hydro and it’s too darn expensive to screw up!
@georgegouvas27
@georgegouvas27 Жыл бұрын
not at all, the subscribers are paying for the fluid
@Mrblakk100
@Mrblakk100 Жыл бұрын
I taught myself to weld the beginning of this new year, mostly because of watching people like you who inspire me. Keep up the good work Rudy
@t.l.robinson2162
@t.l.robinson2162 Жыл бұрын
I am very proud of you Rudy! Your dad taught you very well and you learned very well. Good on you. It is wonderful to see you doing your own thing.
@icarus_flying1994
@icarus_flying1994 Жыл бұрын
What's the pressure rating on the wrench on hydraulic fittings? I always assumed it was extremely low and that you should go for crimped fittings for anything high pressure. Amazing work either way.
@tinytattoomike7943
@tinytattoomike7943 Жыл бұрын
Up next rear steering 👍 Excellent show today I dig Andy’s optimism
@Fix_It_Again_Tony
@Fix_It_Again_Tony Жыл бұрын
I think the advantage of the fittings you've used is that they are field serviceable, like you showed in the video. There was probably something not right with how that fitting was installed from the get-go, like you said. Maybe it makes sense to build the pressure line to the orbital valve using crimp on fittings as it is unlikely to be damaged by something out on the trail, but it would be convenient to be able to repair the lines to the ram while you are wheeling. Looks like you have a pretty decent amount of body roll. How does it feel?
@ttsfabworks
@ttsfabworks Жыл бұрын
That looks like the Parker field serviceable hoses, they should easily handle 3,000 psi and that pump is probably around 1,450. I’m going with your fist thought of probably not put together correctly.
@norcoredneck
@norcoredneck Жыл бұрын
Andy is so positive about everything. Like a trip for a root canal. 😂
@richardthomas1743
@richardthomas1743 Жыл бұрын
Awesome job getting the Ridicon up through that off road course Rudy! The obstacle course , well to me it looks like the Rudicon was unsafe at any speed. Nice job filming Andy!
@agentcrm
@agentcrm Жыл бұрын
The other issue with full hydro is the steering wheel doesn't return to centre properly. Something else to check. Depending on local road rules you may require a mechanically linked steering. I would change those fittings to crimped fittings.
@JT_70
@JT_70 Жыл бұрын
Do they make a hydraulic steering that will return to center?
@agentcrm
@agentcrm Жыл бұрын
@@JT_70 They do and Rudy bought that. BUT because there isn't a mechanical link, centre is slightly different each time. Which is very obvious with the airbag wheel.
@joed9269
@joed9269 Жыл бұрын
Man Andy is super positive lol That obstacle was insane. Great vid.
@terrya6486
@terrya6486 Жыл бұрын
I would suggest taking all the hoses off your hydro steering go down to a Napa store and have some hoses made she don't die on the freeway somewhere.
@AFloridaSon
@AFloridaSon Жыл бұрын
You know there's family history of running out of gas, when you breakdown and you have to clarify, "I did not run out of gas" - lol.
@danielproulx7288
@danielproulx7288 Жыл бұрын
Rudy I am happy to see you including your brothers in the videos. It make for an interesting dynamic and they are fun to watch.
@detroitdiy
@detroitdiy Жыл бұрын
Great video Rudy, the hydro steering looks like a great improvement. Get those kinks worked out and take us along for ride.
@cognitivedissonancecamp6326
@cognitivedissonancecamp6326 Жыл бұрын
You needed a spotter for that rock crawl, by golly, and the bro-man shows up just in time. Congrats on the new mods.
@donjuan1212
@donjuan1212 Жыл бұрын
You need to fab your own set of quick disconnect sway bar links that are HD at least for the front end, that would make it handle better and safer for on road driving at higher speeds, or get a set of electronic ones off a power wagon
@tomcardale5596
@tomcardale5596 Жыл бұрын
Put a locking hub at one end then you don't even need to disconnect anything!
@TheIIOM
@TheIIOM Жыл бұрын
It's good to see your brothers working with and supporting your endeavors.
@keithbarber9004
@keithbarber9004 Жыл бұрын
Like your videos. Do you think you should put gaiters/boots on the steering shafts. My fear is the sand and grit will work itself into the ram and scratch the surface causing the seals to leak.
@robertheinkel6225
@robertheinkel6225 Жыл бұрын
We had hydro steering on our Oliver tractor. One of my pet peeves, was the steering wheel would never end up in the same position
@acurarl9929
@acurarl9929 Жыл бұрын
Love this Jeep. Definitely needs lower gears one way or another tho. Must. You’ll have so much more throttle control when your not just riding the very beginning of the torque converter.
@monkeyearcheese420
@monkeyearcheese420 Жыл бұрын
This is the biggest reason I've wondered about hydro stearing. When it goes down in the middle of nowhere you could be screwed. I've also heard alot about it not being streetable but it seems like you disproved that
@frankfilippone9679
@frankfilippone9679 Жыл бұрын
I love your little brother, he's the perfect amount of Negativity! You guys are like Ying and Yang ☯️ As for hydraulic steering for an offroad vehicle 👍 definitely the way to go! As for my Daily driver/Off-Roader I'll stick with my Hydraulic Ram assist, I like redundancy, and I'm pretty sure full hydraulic is not DOT legal as far as I know? And your brother needs his own channel "Most Negative Guy In Utah" it would almost as good as Big Love! 😆 Great video Rudy and keep it on E #XJLIFE That looked just like the picture I sent you of my 98 XJ on E , E is for enough 😀
@Ma_Deuce_338
@Ma_Deuce_338 Жыл бұрын
Re: DOT and on road I was wondering this also. That is my understanding as well, that fully hydraulic is not road legal. I was building a street truck 30 years ago and was going to go fully hydraulic to beat the inherent steering fab problems after lowering the truck. Like the Rudicon it was going to be slick and clean. I thought "cool why didn't I think of this earlier." Until as an afterthought I decided to check with my insurance company who did not mind insuring street rods. They disliked the idea so much that they threatened to cancel me. They said under no circumstance would they insure the truck or would they pay any claim related to damage if I went ahead and installed it anyway. Sort of the same as street racing and wrecking your ride and another vehicle as well as injuring yourself or someone else. They would just tell me to go fish as it were. SO I never did it. However it is nice to see Rudy is trying it. Seems to work like I envisioned it... Nice
@frankfilippone9679
@frankfilippone9679 Жыл бұрын
@Meagan Christie I figured that and it kinda makes sense, God forbid you ( On Road ) lose your steering, that's one of the scariest things that can happen while driving, especially here in the NYC/Long Island area, terrifying actually! But if it's a trailer queen, then no problem, I personally like a tight positive feel for my steering, so I have 3/4 heim joints and a PSC hydraulic 8" ram and I have no slop in my 03 Tacoma S.A.Swap, I also like redundancy, I've already broken stuff and still made the few hundred miles back home, I would love to have a trailer, but I also love driving my vehicle on road as well, I've never driven a full hydraulic setup, but I can imagine it's not as responsive as a linked steering setup, my truck ( Check it out on my KZbin channel ) with the ram assist, is tight! And I have a converted from crappie IFS to Solid Axle Tacoma, so it's completely redesigned, and works perfectly! I love my mini truck 🛻 monster! And she's DOT compliant, I've been let go by a few insurance companies, so I can't play any games, I'm sure Rudy is daily driving this XJ, so for just offroad, then it's a great setup, I just personally rather have the on road option, great talking to ya , nice to get a positive response to my comments, it's not always like that TY
@johnwasson8604
@johnwasson8604 Жыл бұрын
ur correct that full hydro is not legal for use on road the code specificly states that there must be a physical mechanical means of steering at all times just for the reason that happened in the video if you lose your fluid you know longer have any steering.
@frankfilippone9679
@frankfilippone9679 Жыл бұрын
@John Wasson That's what I'm running, linked steering with Hydraulic Ram assist, even if it was street legal, I would be a nervous that there's nothing really connected besides the Hydraulic lines
@cephurs
@cephurs Жыл бұрын
Wow! apples and trees. MORR kids for sure, Andy too with the quick wit! Great driving/engineering/eyecrometing. Looking forward to seeing the c10 progress! keep it 4x4 but slammed
@lonniet.2816
@lonniet.2816 Жыл бұрын
NICE TO SEE ALL THE BROTHERS WORKING TOGETHER! NICE JOB ON THE HYDRO STEERING!!
@joebikerla
@joebikerla Жыл бұрын
I like what you’re doing Rudy and brothers. Keep ‘em coming.
@B.Colby107
@B.Colby107 Жыл бұрын
Gosh that Etnies shoes sticker on the hatch takes me back to the early 2000's lol. Keep up the great work and content Rudy!
@JW-cn6op
@JW-cn6op Жыл бұрын
Put a anti-rock sway bar on one end and that should make most of the lean go away and not loose your flex.
@dcidci1012
@dcidci1012 Жыл бұрын
Wow that is some awesome craftsmanship & driving. You like Matt deserve the K C & C award. Kind, Caring, & Capable. Thanks for the videos.
@scootergem
@scootergem Жыл бұрын
That slomunb (sp) part worried me. Jeeps have a high center of gravity by nature and no sway bars just add to the problem - SO BE CAREFUL!😁😬 Your Jeep is becoming quite the off road machine. You can be proud of it. Your videos are really turning out good too. Happy for what you are doing. Kudos kiddo!
@danrussell3439
@danrussell3439 Жыл бұрын
Rudy has the best attitude..nothing going to stop him which is great to see. Great video.
@marvicty
@marvicty Жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for Andy and the little dog. The Jeep seems like a beast off-road but could probably use some sway bars for daily driving
@Rudysadventureanddesignreal
@Rudysadventureanddesignreal Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@v12alpine
@v12alpine Жыл бұрын
@@Rudysadventureanddesignreal anti-rock sways are awesome
@Jjvblack88
@Jjvblack88 Жыл бұрын
The load you put on the pump caused your crummy line to push out of the connector. If you are gonna drive a full hydro system like that on pavement it needs to have high pressure hoses, specifically if your gonna fully lock the steering wheel. Great video!
@kennethmc2601
@kennethmc2601 Жыл бұрын
Those "field serviceable" fittings are a hassle. I have seen more leaks on the trail from those than anything. Every NAPA I have ever been to has everything needed to build legitimate crimped hydraulic hoses, and they really are pretty cheap. Keep the field serviceable fittings in the glovebox for an emergency trail repair, that's about all they are good for.
@Lucas12v
@Lucas12v Жыл бұрын
100%
@johnmcraven3598
@johnmcraven3598 Жыл бұрын
I used the same style fittings when whipping up some hoses for my LS swapped Volvo. And... they lasted about as far as yours did. Maybe 3/4 of a mile on the first drive, one of the ends popped off. I had a shop build a new pressure hose and left all the other ones alone and it's been fine ever since.
@jamesbigham9036
@jamesbigham9036 Жыл бұрын
The Rudicon did really good in my opinion. I do have a question. Do you think The MOORVAIR and Paul's FJ could do the rock climbing that you just did? I think they could it would be challenging but they could do it
@rossmagwood1381
@rossmagwood1381 Жыл бұрын
@Unintentional Failure yep he needs a little bit stiffer suspension that was a lot of roll for only 30 MPH
@justahippie
@justahippie Жыл бұрын
Rudy learned his Wonderful attitude towards life Morals, Manners,work Ethics and his Aversion to an Adequate amount of Gas. Love your Videos Rudy. You give an old man a little hope for the Future..
@justahippie
@justahippie Жыл бұрын
From Matt
@Fantaman900
@Fantaman900 Жыл бұрын
Sure looks like there isn't enough caster to push against the extra resistance of the hydro cylinder and orbital valve for self return steering.
@DMJ52
@DMJ52 Жыл бұрын
Spot on !
@mpikas
@mpikas Жыл бұрын
The problem with the full hydro steering over regular hydraulic assist is that when you lose fluid you lose steering, with hydraulic assist you still have steering if you can force the wheel to turn, which works fine at speed. Yes, with brakes you lose braking when you lose fluid, but there are other ways to stop a vehicle (parking brake, downshifting...) If your steering isn't returning I'd bet that it's alignment if you have the centeriing valve assembly.
@baldhead7705
@baldhead7705 Жыл бұрын
Personally I think I'd get some high pressure lines made for it
@glenjamindle
@glenjamindle Жыл бұрын
Those were high pressure lines
@rossmagwood1381
@rossmagwood1381 Жыл бұрын
@@glenjamindle yes but not crimped fittings for it/;/; i would reccomend steel braided as well which those were not
@timpretzsch2609
@timpretzsch2609 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm seems odd that NON steel braided hoses would throw sparks while being cut with an abrasive wheel don't ya think ?
@90vanman
@90vanman Жыл бұрын
@@timpretzsch2609 Hydraulic hoses are, working out from inside, rubber-steel-rubber, if braided they have an extra outer layer of steel and sometimes a plastic casing too
@timpretzsch2609
@timpretzsch2609 Жыл бұрын
@@90vanman ya fully aware, was a sarcastic response to the guy who said to get steel braided lines and tried to indicate these were not lol
@ZGDX_Smiling_
@ZGDX_Smiling_ Жыл бұрын
I am glad Rudy is doing this on an almost closed Road Course.
@deserttrailscout
@deserttrailscout Жыл бұрын
“there’s a cool rock on the ground” “you didn’t pick it up?” What a guy thing hahaha
@block4565
@block4565 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you need to meet more of the ladies... that's a human thing, not a "guy thing"
@deserttrailscout
@deserttrailscout Жыл бұрын
@@block4565 haha how did I know someone like you would pop up and take this offensively somehow
@timpretzsch2609
@timpretzsch2609 Жыл бұрын
If you noticed, the hose fitting that popped off the hose was only on the hose about 3/4" not the entire depth of the outer sheath, the outer screws on reverse thread, and has to be fully screwed on the entire way before screwing the inner part of the fitting in that expands it outwards to pressure fit the hose between the inner and outer parts. These fittings are perfectly capable of the pressures and function they are being used for here if not put in a high angle bind, and installed on the hose properly.
@toms5157
@toms5157 Жыл бұрын
Andy is so optimistic. 🤣
@francesrice7898
@francesrice7898 Жыл бұрын
Rudy, you have come a long way in your new venture. I know I say it a lot but it’s true, I am so proud of you. Your brothers are awesome too. Have fun making memories with your brothers. ❤️🙏🙏👍👍🌟🌟🏆🏆❤️
@A-Negative
@A-Negative Жыл бұрын
Al Gores Rhythm
@benlewis2317
@benlewis2317 Жыл бұрын
Reusable fittings are fine, we used them on heavy equipment for decades. They do, however have left handed threads in the collar that need to be screwed on till it bottoms out before you insert the center section, which has right handed threads. You can see from how much rubber came off of the hose that it only had about half as much engagement onto the hose as it should've had.
@TrevorDennis100
@TrevorDennis100 Жыл бұрын
I seem to remember you saying that the fluid you are using is expensive, so kudos for not getting pissed at losing a bunch of it.
@ottisthedog3544
@ottisthedog3544 Жыл бұрын
i have done a lot of work with "field attachable" ends in nitrogen and lots of pressure and havent had any problem EXCEPT when i didnt get them on good and proper. watch that your outer rubber coating doesnt fold over or buckle up when you screw on the outer part of the fitting. lube up the hose before you screw on the outer (and inner) fitting pieces. if they dont go on easy and smooth as you screw them together take it back apart. always look inside the fitting after you put on the outer piece and make sure it went all the way into the fitting. also remember the the fitting and hose must be compatible some hose doesnt work with field attachable ends. tips from a 60 year old man that likes to impart his wisdom whether you want it or not...😁.
@Rudysadventureanddesignreal
@Rudysadventureanddesignreal Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the tips! after further investigation that failure was completely my fault.
@Mmercier942
@Mmercier942 Жыл бұрын
When I see the lenght of the hose that fail I said the same thing. the outer fitting was not all the way in. When I use it I screw the outer fitting a little on the hose. I put the inner in a couple ou turn because when you screw the outer all the way it's very hard to screw the inner. Then I screw the outer all the way you know when you're done when the hose want to turn and the fittings don't anymore. And you screw the inner until then contact each other. If they don't touch you're not correct. At work they remove all of those fittings because people don't install them correctly and they blew like that. And they install them everywhere because it's was easier than replacing the whole hose. ;)
@Firebat45
@Firebat45 Жыл бұрын
I like that your example of full hydro steering on heavy equipment was "skid loader". Y'know, the piece of equipment defined by it's lack of actual steering. Anyways, those look like the thread-on style of AN fittings (or possibly JIC). Those are typically only rated for 450psi. Crimped fittings can handle 1500psi, and steel JIC fittings can handle several thousand.
@CMC61
@CMC61 Жыл бұрын
Rudy your so chill! There’s a problem you fix it and move on ! Your the perfect person for off-roading!
@RIPGLIDE
@RIPGLIDE Жыл бұрын
Love watching you and your build grow. I have had overall good luck with the home made hoses like you used on high pressure hydraulic systems. Occasionally one fitting doesn't hold for one reason or another. I typically use them in temporary situations and have crimped lines built to replace them. Keep up the good work
@Jammer.1
@Jammer.1 Жыл бұрын
On the steering line that blew off it is possible that you didn't get the outer casing fully seated on the hose and then the inner fitting didn't get the right amount pressure to seat it fully ! I worked with those type fittings and done it a couple times before i figured out my mistake !
@bipplebovine8318
@bipplebovine8318 Жыл бұрын
Nice videos Rudy, That hose blew because the outer had only screwed into the rubber skin of the hose which got soft as it heated up and skinned it's way out. The outer part can come for one or two wired hyd hose and you need the correct one. Then you need to skive the hose (remove the outer skin) so the thread bites into the braid and makes a secure fit.
@thomasbialzik3060
@thomasbialzik3060 Жыл бұрын
I dig this channel. I love Rudy's can do attitude and when he asks Andy for his thoughts, they are just slightly more sunshine than Eior (spelling? ) from Winnie the pooh.
@trooperandcooperale3057
@trooperandcooperale3057 Жыл бұрын
I had snapped my rear axle on a Toyota 4 Runner due to diff lock still on on tarmac doing a burnout, so to get where I was going (ironical my mechanic) I engaged front 4wd on the road. The very first corner the power steering crapped out due to the 33" tyres and 4wd being engage. Drove the next 20 minutes without power steering. Good times.
@Pjuklarven83
@Pjuklarven83 Жыл бұрын
Just a thought, had you ever maxed out the steering before you blew the hose? It's a good practice to always max out a hydraulic system before use. You only have full pressure when the cylinder is maxed out and the oil goes to overflow.
@j.j.clingman4083
@j.j.clingman4083 Жыл бұрын
Rudy I think that you need to do a little changing on the 1/2 done jeep and change it to the 3/4 done rubicon!!! Just so that others can understand and no that maybe that you are still working on the jeep to getting it closer to it’s full done potential!!!! Lol!! Awesome video buddy and remember keep up all the hard work buddy!!!!
@Cragified
@Cragified Жыл бұрын
A few things for those confused. Only Tennessee actually has a law on the books that outright bans full hydro on the road. However, there are always HUGE caveats to consider. 1. You better inform your insurance company of the modification and make sure they will cover it. Because if you get into an accident not only with the other parties legal interests use it against you. Your own insurance company can be in their rights to refuse to cover you due to failure to notify as they cover the vehicle as factory standard. (This is the main reason not to operate a off road modified vehicle on the road ever) 2. Technically, though it has never been enforced its against regulations to modify a vehicle at all from factory standards as that is what DOT approved. And there is some momentum to pass more concrete legislation in the future to cut down on many modifications that are being deemed unsafe or against EPA standards. So in the end everyone is a bit right on it and everyone is a bit wrong on it in the discussion.
@jimmyjenkins9240
@jimmyjenkins9240 Жыл бұрын
Well done! Part 3, the Fock crawling, was a real adrenaline rush!
@forreststrong797
@forreststrong797 Жыл бұрын
So I'm kinda a hose nerd a little bit and I had some issues with PSC's new high pressure fittings which are the ones you have, the field servicable ones. They use eaton weatherhead hose which is good stuff but they somewhat kinda recently switched from eaton field servicable fittings to the ones like you have. I normally ordered eaton fittings from them and this last time I got the new style and took measurements and did some comparison after blowing a couple on a friend's jeep then I called psc and talked to them and did some research and found that eaton raised the price of their field servicable fittings which are the ones you can put together with wrenches. But you can order the eaton fittings through NAPA. I'd suggest looking for some of the eaton fittings that would've come with any psc stuff like roughly 1-2 years ago it's easy to know what is what because the eaton fittings say eaton all over the nut. Or go to Napa and order eaton weatherhead field servicable fittings they are worth the money in my opinion and it's worth looking into. Let me know if you need a part number and for which style/size and I can try to get it but my local NAPA knew exactly what I needed. Also the specs for that hose say to only use the eaton fittings. Another reason I prefer the eaton hose and eaton fittings over something like earls or aeroquip is they have a larger ID so I still spend the extra money on the eaton fittings. They are like 55 bucks each from NAPA. I've always found that it's a good idea to use the same manufacturers hose and fittings together I've made lots of hoses over the years.
@gayle4804
@gayle4804 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations that's quite accomplishment, The best part I think is you had your brothers there to join with you in your accomplishment!!!
@ephjay6t87
@ephjay6t87 Жыл бұрын
Rudycon has come a long way. Great job! The I6 is so underrated but so suitable for off-road.
@skibiker18
@skibiker18 Жыл бұрын
Did you use reusable AN fittings on the pressure side? While TDI swapping my LJ, I used those to make the pressure side of the p/s system, TDI pump to the Jeep steering box and it lasted a bit, until I blew the line off the fitting. Remade the lines with a crimp on fitting and 15,000 miles later its still working out. Love the videos, keep up the great work!
@pieterv6984
@pieterv6984 Жыл бұрын
the comparison between hydro brakes and hydro steering is a really good one. An eye opener. Content and editing keeps improving.
@johncraig406
@johncraig406 Жыл бұрын
Good job Rudy, i too, am looking at Hydro Assist for my '02 Excursion. The steering is Way Too Stiff for me, have to Manhandle it with Two Hands at all times. ☹
@davebanks7435
@davebanks7435 Жыл бұрын
I agree totally with Caulin: an insane obstacle Rudy and great skills getting through and over it: you must be stoked that the steering is such an improvement
@ZGDX_Smiling_
@ZGDX_Smiling_ Жыл бұрын
7:46 That jack I also saw Matt and Tom were using on the World Largest Off Road Wrecker.
@everready19373
@everready19373 Жыл бұрын
That crooked steering wheel would drive me NUTS! I think I would have taken a rock crawling route that I had done before.
@Ram14250
@Ram14250 Жыл бұрын
Hey Rudy... shouldn't you have 'boots" on the hydraulic cylinder shafts to keep mud and junk off them? Enjoyed seeing the Rudicon back on!
@ggalland1
@ggalland1 Жыл бұрын
Looked flippen awesome Rudy!! Can't wait to see you out on the trails with everyone really putting it thru its paces.
@tylerrowe9973
@tylerrowe9973 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the high pressure side wasn’t weak then the full lock turn finally overpressured it and made it pop off. Kinda like in a standard hydro-assist power steering, you hear the whine at full lock because the pressure in the pump and lines. Just a thought? Nice seeing your vids and your skill! Thanks for influencing so many!
@russellayton6408
@russellayton6408 Жыл бұрын
16:39 Kaulin (I think I finally saw the spelling and did it right) "you're good now...I guess". Then follows with the assesment I had. That was an insane obstacle. edit: Good job on the rig.Good drive on the obstacle.
@BHwrench
@BHwrench Жыл бұрын
Not sure if you read all these, and someone may have already said. That looks like a compression fitting, they make a fitting called a PTFE fitting with PTFE hose, the hose has a plastic liner that is design for high pressure, will work much better. 👍
@andrewgable7273
@andrewgable7273 Жыл бұрын
Great test. Glad you found a weak point now, instead of later, on a trail in the middle of nowhere. Good job.
@prestonvandivier1379
@prestonvandivier1379 Жыл бұрын
that is one capable rig. good offroad footage. everyone else is right on about getting crimped lines though. best of luck man!
@flipzout100
@flipzout100 Жыл бұрын
Great testing and found the failure quickly and easily repaired. Let's see it was the A Team that said "I love it when a plan comes together." Or something like that. Congrats on successful installation!
@DB-yj3qc
@DB-yj3qc Жыл бұрын
The fun of blowing a high pressure line in steering system. When I heard your planned test I figgued the line would have a failure, I had that happen on trail 5 back when Tellico was open for off-roading. BTW: the Badlands Off-road Jack is great I've used mine quite a bit in less than a month of having it, best floor jack I've had.
@basecius
@basecius Жыл бұрын
Since there is no feedback from actual steering angle to the orbital valve, wouldn't a "return to centre"-function just move the steering wheel to a well defined position, while the steering angle may be off. According to Matt when he talked about the big wrecker, he said that the steering angle tend to shift over time compared to steering wheel position.
@DougsRustycreations
@DougsRustycreations Жыл бұрын
I learned that if you steer it to lock and put force on it non crimped hoses they can’t handle the amount of pressure that the pump is trying to apply to the ram to push past it’s stoping point I have seen people blow crimped lines doing it to lol so when you did a u turn you maxed out the steering angle and it probably just burst a hose good stuff tho love the videos love seeing the progression of the rudicon
@cristhianalonsobatistacast1114
@cristhianalonsobatistacast1114 Жыл бұрын
Hi rudy, I believe you first insert the fitting all the way in, and then, put the compression nut, that way it sits all the way in, otherwise it'll blow up
@MarkWYO
@MarkWYO Жыл бұрын
"What's that mean, Andy?" "It means your jeep sucks." 🤣🤣🤣 I wanted to to see the look on Rudy's face. The Rudicon is an awesome jeep.
@okbanlon
@okbanlon Жыл бұрын
Very, very cool! The Rudicon is shaping up to be a really nice rig! Thank you for this look into how it performs.
@SiCrewe
@SiCrewe Жыл бұрын
Might be worth rigging a pressure gauge into the system somewhere. My main concern would be that you've got a nominal pressure in the system most of the time but if, say, a wheel bump-steers against some obstacle then you're going to momentarily have much higher pressures in the system. Dunno how much of an issue this would be but a gauge would tell you what's going on and then you could ensure all the hoses were rated properly or, possibly, fit some kind of relief valve that'll pop at high pressure and allow fluid to escape back into the reservoir.
@EricV63
@EricV63 Жыл бұрын
Get the high pressure lines crimped/swaged. Plenty of local shops to do it in St George, if not Hurricane.
@PostalRedneck
@PostalRedneck Жыл бұрын
I wish I could run full hydro steering but in Michigan and im sure many other states its illegal to run a steering setup on road without a mechanical link to the steering.
@kentmckean6795
@kentmckean6795 Жыл бұрын
Coming along nicely!
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