Exactly how good was Tokyo Buster Douglas?

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@jorgee5693
@jorgee5693 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing performance by Buster he certainly did it for his mother
@SP-qo3pd
@SP-qo3pd 5 жыл бұрын
That alone proves how we can use adversity to power success .
@aevoguitars2576
@aevoguitars2576 5 жыл бұрын
i had a feeling he was going to win.. ive even thought about betting on him at 40.1 he had nothing to lose, he was having a bad year douglas and had a lot of sh@t that year
5 жыл бұрын
Always reminds me of what Brett Farve did when his dad died. It’s a shame Buster didn’t have another performance as he did.
@mockingmicah5045
@mockingmicah5045 5 жыл бұрын
Buster was supposed be counted out earlier in the fight you can see the ref letting him continue after a count mike tyson talked about the footage
@JuJuOlo
@JuJuOlo 5 жыл бұрын
Nobody was beating g douglas that night in tokyo
@Motivedia
@Motivedia 5 жыл бұрын
Great concept for a video Rummy. Love this.
@kayjayess
@kayjayess 4 жыл бұрын
wow it’s nice to see you supporting smaller channels.
@banditpicasso
@banditpicasso 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, BIG FAN!
@mikem591
@mikem591 5 жыл бұрын
Tokyo Douglas was in a zone that night. Tokyo Tyson was zoned out and heading into decline. It was a perfect storm. Prime Tyson was incredible. Douglas was an all-time great...for one night. For one night you saw the vast potential Douglas had and for one night he put it all together...
@whatevermann3504
@whatevermann3504 5 жыл бұрын
I don't believe Tyson was heading into decline, right after this fight he fought alex stewart and henry tillman and neither of them made it out of the 1st round, he then beat razor rudduck twice in a row and then had a 3 year stint in prison but when he came out he reclaimed the title, beat frank bruno easier then he did in the 80's, beat frans botha, golota, lou saverasse, some of the best wins of his career, yeah he lost to holyfeild twice but how do we know he wouldn't of lost to Holyfeild in the 80's? Holyfeild would always beat tyson imo. By the early 2000's Tyson was done, but the 90's was his prime apart from the prison stint.
@DanielSong39
@DanielSong39 5 жыл бұрын
@@whatevermann3504 To be fair Tyson fought much better in his next 4 fights, though nowhere near his peak from '85 to '88.
@unbornbum
@unbornbum 5 жыл бұрын
@@DanielSong39 85-86 was not tysons peak. no way.
@jaimeacosta4933
@jaimeacosta4933 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes one great night is all it takes. And it was Douglass's night. Great fight Champ! Never forget! 👊
@badgerbhoy9534
@badgerbhoy9534 4 жыл бұрын
I couldnt have put it better my man, spot on! 👍
@a.makalani6131
@a.makalani6131 Жыл бұрын
This is, in my opinion, one of the most accurate assessments of Tyson and Douglass' Tokyo performance I have heard or seen. Tyson was already in decline when he met Douglass but demonstrated tremendous heart that night. Meanwhile, Buster was actually committed and well-conditioned that night in Tokyo, motivated by both his recent, painful divorce from his wife and the death of his mother. This pain inspired Douglass to finally get in shape to display the monstrous jab, reach, hand speed, foot speed, size and combination punching that ALWAYS existed, but stayed mostly dormant due to a lukewarm passion for the sport, and consequently a reluctance to ever train properly prior to Tokyo. Sadly, he Douglass never demonstrated the same desire to conditioning again after this fight.
@serenityinside1
@serenityinside1 Жыл бұрын
VERY well said friend. I would say all exactly that ! Douglas was overlooked by everybody but the only thing he lacked was commitment and desired- that one night he had it 100% and showed us all , especially a complacent overconfident Tyson , what he was capable of.. good fir him - a really nice fella apparently.
@DeionHarris
@DeionHarris Жыл бұрын
tyson wasnt i no decline he just got his ass whipped he thought he had a easy one he saw busta before and he thought he had a duck and u know tyson crazy because busta mother died but the dummy tyson took it the other way which is the wrong way he thought busta wasnt gonna be no good because his mother died and he should have thought he was gonna use it as motorvation when he heard that they didnt pull out he should have been worried right there and thats why he got his ass kicked and tyson already exemplified that he couldnt do anything with a tall big guy with a reach tony tucker took him the didtance and rocked mike and almost dropped him then quick tillis gave him all he could handle and was effing mike up mike dropped him but it was a off balance shot tillis was never hurt then bonecrusher took mike the distance he held a lil bit but he punched also and mike couldnt hurt him at all couldnt do nothing with him anybody who was tall and could fight and here is the key wasnt scared of mike they all went the distance and was never hurt and i still say tucker won that fight or it was a draw and then larry holmes did good and showed the blueprint jab tall and not scared and could box and fight but his hand got caught up in the rope and he got dropped but he was 45 mike was great agianst inferior competition but when he met that dude that wasnt scared it was over for him aka evander holyfield and the rest of them
@renevlogsandmore8870
@renevlogsandmore8870 Жыл бұрын
Is it me or are people completely ignorant when analysing Tyson? He was a tremendous fighter, and at his peak (1988) was capable of beating any other fighter from any era. People seem to forget the 2 wars in which he was involved with Razor Ruddock, and was ultimately victorious in both. After he left Kevin Rooney, he was fighting at no more than 70 percent of his potential.
@DROPPINLINES24-7
@DROPPINLINES24-7 5 жыл бұрын
Even in a loss. This is one of my favorite Tyson fights. He took a beating! And hung in there like the champ he was. Amazing chin and heart. That day Douglas fought the perfect fight and Tyson showed heart.
@heliopolis29
@heliopolis29 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan Guidry I think it was a case of bad or lazy preparation for the fight also. Tyson’s defence was like 3 years previous. To give Douglas credit, he was the best man on the night.
@hanzo7616
@hanzo7616 5 жыл бұрын
Mike never had a bad chin, heart or stamina. Sure his heart probably wasn't as good as George Foreman's. But let's be honest. Who's is? That's what makes George George. Mike's biggest issue was his mental. That's it.
@markanderton8113
@markanderton8113 5 жыл бұрын
So true was an epic fight and showed just how durable Tyson was. I have always though to be a truly great champion you need a to have a great chin, and Tyson had one of granite.
@paulanthony5274
@paulanthony5274 5 жыл бұрын
Idiot,Rooney went 3 fights before this one.
@randyvalentine3042
@randyvalentine3042 4 жыл бұрын
This 1, Holyfield1 and the Lennox assault all were unbelievably epic,i couldn't believe it....
@chubbycatfish4573
@chubbycatfish4573 5 жыл бұрын
If Douglas fought like that every fight, he'd be in the top 5 all time.
@anonymousanonymous3707
@anonymousanonymous3707 4 жыл бұрын
True story that mate , I've said it myself this Douglas beats any version of Tyson ever , made 1 mistake got punished got up and corrected it . The Tyson in his prime crowd can never admit it but it's true a good bigun beats a good littleun 7 days a week
@davonbenson4361
@davonbenson4361 4 жыл бұрын
anonymous anonymous. He had the potential to be even better than win he fought Tyson.
@hannibalbeats24
@hannibalbeats24 4 жыл бұрын
Victory defeated buster Douglas
@richieray04
@richieray04 4 жыл бұрын
Buster was knocking down other boxers with a JAB... Think about that.
@VCthaGOATdunker
@VCthaGOATdunker 4 жыл бұрын
Tyson fanboy myths. Douglas was nothing special. He had a good jab and uppercut but no defense, no heart(being saved by the bell after a knockdown didn't disprove all the times he quit) and that version got snuffed by Tony Tucker, another good but not great fighter.
@anonym58063
@anonym58063 5 жыл бұрын
Tokyo Buster Douglas should be boxing's first mythical ceeature, like Sea level Cain, TRT Vitor, Hydrated RDA etc. in MMA
@HR-jy1nb
@HR-jy1nb 5 жыл бұрын
Evander real deal holyfield
@KHALABEEB
@KHALABEEB 5 жыл бұрын
This was almost my exact comment, except I would include FULL-CAMP MENDES... Lol
@serkankoldere
@serkankoldere 5 жыл бұрын
What about "Chuck with that look in his eyes"?
@robertdecker4780
@robertdecker4780 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot SuperCharged Serra from St Pierre-Serra 1.
@mrniceguy7168
@mrniceguy7168 5 жыл бұрын
I know I’m getting older when I realize this all started off as Motivated BJ Penn.
@smallrossy
@smallrossy 5 жыл бұрын
Every single shot Buster Douglas fired looked ferocious
@alectinoco7010
@alectinoco7010 5 жыл бұрын
Mike was also tested by Donovan Razor Ruddock in 2 really tough fights not that many people remember that
@captainjackdripper9010
@captainjackdripper9010 5 жыл бұрын
Those two fights alone destroy the well crafted myth that Tyson couldn't handle adversity.
@Knocktfout
@Knocktfout 4 жыл бұрын
I DO FOR SURE. RUDDOCK WAS DANGEROUS! The Morrison vs Ruddock fight for the vacant IBC title was epic!
@Ministry-of-Offense
@Ministry-of-Offense 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo! I think that this was a rather romantic look at Douglas. Douglas fought nobodies for his whole career except Jesse Ferguson, beaten by Tyson, got knocked out by Tony Tucker, beaten by Tyson, he beat a broken Trevor Berbick on points after Tyson had destroyed him, then was wiped out the history books by Holyfield. Very true that Tyson became complacent and lazy...but the Tokyo Tyson was already a coked up psych ward prop.
@keepingitrealestate3357
@keepingitrealestate3357 3 жыл бұрын
That was exactly what I thought about when the “Never overcame Adversity “ come up
@williammorton3359
@williammorton3359 3 жыл бұрын
I remember. Then I saw tommy Morrison Knock out Roddock with one left hook.
@jthomasaustin
@jthomasaustin 5 жыл бұрын
If Buster could've stayed disciplined he would have been much more than a one-hit wonder.
@peelslowly28
@peelslowly28 4 жыл бұрын
He could've been one of the best of the 90s fighting in Mike Tyson's absence along with Holyfield, Bowe, and Lewis.
@rosathechamp2452
@rosathechamp2452 4 жыл бұрын
Castrik NM I like how you said in Mike’s absence. Buster had that much talent to take up a slot in 90’s best heavyweights. But Iron Mike on his Best Night BLOWS Buster AWAY on his Best Night away in 1-2 rounds. That may not be the case with Bowe, Lewis, and Holyfield, however...Buster would make them dudes work on his best night, and those 3 were phenomenal , elite all-time greats. But Tyson was a monster beyond mythical proportions , he could blow away the majority of heavyweights with ease.
@Dxmi.A
@Dxmi.A 3 жыл бұрын
@@rosathechamp2452 LOL hard to imagine Tyson blowing a guy out in 1-2 rounds who dominated him for 10 rounds. Stop being a fanboy
@Thor-Orion
@Thor-Orion 3 жыл бұрын
But this was a special night. He couldn’t be THIS good every fight, but he could have been very good if he had stayed focused. There was something supernatural about this night.
@SJ-ty5rw
@SJ-ty5rw 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dxmi.A Agree ! do people forget Tillis , and Tucker went 12 rounds with Mike ? And Tillis didn't have the talent Douglas did at his best . Even Oliver Mccall said he warned Mike .. not to take Douglas lightly . He had fought him before Mike and lost the fight .
@CallumsCorner.
@CallumsCorner. 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't know anyone else had a corner on here.
@dcfromthev
@dcfromthev 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there are plenty of corners
@millertime3626
@millertime3626 3 жыл бұрын
Ayup White Tyson
@MASTA_T0X1C
@MASTA_T0X1C 3 жыл бұрын
In the laws of physics there can never be one corner
@JL-ec1by
@JL-ec1by 2 жыл бұрын
Buster had tremendous gifts. At 230, his legs were better than any heavyweight I've seen. Huge reach and great jab. He knocked opponents down with it. On par with Holmes. Good size at 6'4". He threw combinations in that fight. I think he could've gotten together even more than he did.
@Only1Kizz
@Only1Kizz Жыл бұрын
Definitely athletically gifted with size, power and speed and great technical abilities, he would of been tough for any heavyweight to beat had he stayed disciplined.
@nocturne311
@nocturne311 9 ай бұрын
Sonny Liston had a great jab as well, not to just randomly throw him into this conversation. Lol.
@globalfrank9557
@globalfrank9557 5 жыл бұрын
That version of Buster was a quality fighter. In top notch shape and highly motivated after grieving the loss his Mother. On that night, Buster's jab was high level. Fast and snappy, he dictated the fight with it. Incredible performance from Douglas, shame we never saw that version of him again, one of many top Heavyweights in the Golden Era of the 90's.
@user-cj1tc8zi4e
@user-cj1tc8zi4e 5 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that version of Mike was only 75 percent of his former self I am guessing although 75 percent of his former self would have still defeated most Top Heavyweights.
@blindfreddy3418
@blindfreddy3418 5 жыл бұрын
busters jab and double jabs were always high level even before this fight. If you watch the replay you will hear sugar ray Leonard who was one of the commentators on that night refering to this point on more than one occasion whilst commentating. He even said Busters jab was so good he knocked out one of his opponents with it.
@TheMHB199
@TheMHB199 5 жыл бұрын
@@user-cj1tc8zi4e lol no. He beat no top heavyweight even when he was at 100%. He had trouble with average fighters like tillis and Douglas. When he fought against actual top heavyweights or cruiserweight in holyfields case he got schooled. Now true for the Lewis and holyfield fight he was not 100%. But that is not excuse enough. Ali was never 100% after his 3 and half year layoff. Yet look at what he accomplished. Foreman was never 100% after being beaten ali but became the world champion again at a frankly ridiculous age. There are plenty of top fighters who fought past adversity and had the mental fortitude and discipline to make it again. And at much higher ages and at weaker physical condition than Tyson. Tyson was still incredibly young and if he had worked he would have achieved much more. But he showed his greatest weakness. A lack of champion mentality.
@SonOvaSon
@SonOvaSon 5 жыл бұрын
M.H.B Extremely well said, this is why I love boxing. You don’t just see the opponents compete with the body, but with the mind as well.
@mathematics557
@mathematics557 5 жыл бұрын
@@blindfreddy3418 yup that's right he knocked out an opponent named Mike Williams 3 times with a jab, interestingly enough, that fight was the undercard of Tyson vs Spinks.
@Britton_Thompson
@Britton_Thompson 3 жыл бұрын
"Tyson never overcame adversity in his career"? Mike overcame the most difficulty of any fighter in history: *Against all odds, he somehow survived 12 years of Don King being his manager.* The heart of a true champion.
@27neverlose
@27neverlose 2 жыл бұрын
Rummy's corner absolutely nailed his analysis of how good Buster Douglas's performance was during the Tyson fight.
@ninjazzrhythm400
@ninjazzrhythm400 5 жыл бұрын
Tyson didnt cut corners in training when he fought Douglas. He cut training altogether, lol
@johnmccoy360
@johnmccoy360 5 жыл бұрын
Bullshit two friends of mine were sparring partners for Tyson and went to Japan, both said Tyson was in good spirits and was in top shape, he started the "short cut in training" bs to make him look somewhat better, he was simply exposed, from time he fought his first talented opponent his 19th fight James"Quick" Tillis, Iron Mike didn't always look invincible, his knock out streak against inferior boxers end at 18, while they were very entertaining, most had loosing records or had little experience, # 20 against Mitch Green went the distance, while he did get better and at times looked unstoppable largely due to the old adage "styles make fights" and Buster's style was all wrong for him with the exception of a very old Holmes most of the fighters Mike faced looked like they pissed their trunk's before opening bell where as Douglas went out center ring and pushed him across the ring, and started peppering him with Holmes style jab, he had no fear of him whatsoever, James was very good boxer and beaten some of the better fighters of that era and gave a master blueprint how to beat Tyson
@flare3854
@flare3854 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnmccoy360 LOL
@Cameo718.
@Cameo718. 3 жыл бұрын
Bobby Brown blames himself for Tyson's lost due to the shenanigans he says they were up to in the hotel with ladies the night before and early morning of the fight..
@hollywoodhogan.7009
@hollywoodhogan.7009 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao. Facts
@vince11harris
@vince11harris 3 ай бұрын
@@johnmccoy360people can lie
@icarus8471
@icarus8471 5 жыл бұрын
I remember Douglas when he KO'ed Mike Williams, who was considered a contender, on the Tyson/Tucker undercard. Douglas had size and he could hit. When he was in shape he was a potentially dangerous opponent. Tyson by this time had deteriorated. I remember thinking when he came to the ring against Douglas that he looked less in shape than usual. And Tyson was a short fighter without a long reach. That meant he had to come in and close the distance. At his best he would compensate for this with head movement and excellent handspeed and an effective jab. But when he fought Douglas he had no movement, no jab, was loading up for one punch and was coming in straight ahead. Really bad recipe against a bigger opponent with any punching power.
@d-money2270
@d-money2270 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Douglas was saved by the bell is lost in this conversation
@coryburns9161
@coryburns9161 2 жыл бұрын
Always people like you two that don't truly give Douglas credit for his performance that day
@cjj9127
@cjj9127 5 жыл бұрын
In 20 years: exactly how good was Andy Ruiz
@nickwalsh8169
@nickwalsh8169 4 жыл бұрын
No..Tyson was a legend AJ is definitely not
@theannouncer5538
@theannouncer5538 4 жыл бұрын
@@nickwalsh8169 he’s getting there, if he can beat fury, which iiiiii kinda doubt he will, he’ll be up there
@pardeepparkash398
@pardeepparkash398 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickwalsh8169 legend ? Ask Lewis , ask Holyfield .
@jaytc3613
@jaytc3613 3 жыл бұрын
@Your Neighbor tells us that you think Ruiz wouldn’t beat foreman. Nothing more.
@sirlloyd6386
@sirlloyd6386 10 ай бұрын
If you watch the fight again, as I have multiple times & just watch Douglas. His footwork, command of distance, his timing, punch power and accuracy, you will see just how good he was on that night. The best boxing performance I’ve ever seen. Getting up from that vicious uppercut in Rd.8 just to add to it. Sadly he just didn’t prepare for Holyfield, and could have gotten up. He’d achieved his goal and it will never be forgotten. Tyson has said himself that it was HIS greatest performance because he didn’t quit and always wanted to be perceived as a warrior, but also said that Buster kicked his butt that night. Great video and breakdown from Rummy. A very knowledgable boxing analysis of what’s considered a fluke. It wasn’t. Buster was just perfect that night, regardless of Tyson’s mindset, preparation and lack of respect for his cornermen.
@Li8mBenz
@Li8mBenz 5 жыл бұрын
"greatness sometimes manifests in different ways and varying capacities" Wow, what a line. I take my hat off to you Rummy. In a boxing community full of hyperbole, anger, and trash talk, you have said something poignant and insightful. Respect.
@TyreseBuie
@TyreseBuie 5 жыл бұрын
Mickey Duff use to scout for cus he told him buster was a bad matchup for Tyson if motivated. Don king never got the memo
@lainiwakura4678
@lainiwakura4678 5 жыл бұрын
Truth
@allangreenley9901
@allangreenley9901 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Micky duff made lots of money on backing buster Douglas to win
@TyreseBuie
@TyreseBuie 5 жыл бұрын
Allan Greenley really you got a link
@onthedry8386
@onthedry8386 5 жыл бұрын
don king the elephant in the room
@chumba421
@chumba421 3 жыл бұрын
Tokyo Douglas is a mythical fighter, something you get a glimpse of one time but that one time is so magical you can't help but wonder what could have been
@positivewarrior5206
@positivewarrior5206 8 ай бұрын
Underated comment
@stevennorris7181
@stevennorris7181 5 жыл бұрын
Well lets put it this way, he was a hell of a lot better than the flabby, out of shape one that fought Evander Holyfield....
@HR-jy1nb
@HR-jy1nb 5 жыл бұрын
Bro he was ripped when he faced evander and on a winning streak, evander on the other hand had been stopped, had a terrible fight with Bobby cyze, had heart problems and had been out the ring for awhile trying to get his health back and he had the whole world against him. My mom and dad(casuals) swore Tyson would walk through evander and even though I was a kid(a young obsessed fight degenerate lol) I knew holyfield would win.
@brotherdarkness89
@brotherdarkness89 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@Luffytaro39
@Luffytaro39 5 жыл бұрын
Steven Norris lol 😂 true
@fingers215
@fingers215 5 жыл бұрын
Holyfield would have beaten any version of Mike Tyson! And Im proud to say I won a shit ton of money when he did beat Mike because nobody believed Evander had a shot.
@19580822
@19580822 5 жыл бұрын
Also let's not forget that Evander Holyfield is 4 years older than Mike Tyson.
@manos3790
@manos3790 5 жыл бұрын
I've always maintained that Douglas's performance this night was the finest since Larry Holmes's heyday.
@msw8966
@msw8966 5 жыл бұрын
I have always said that night Buster could of held his own against anyone in history. It was an amazing performance by an average fighter not in skill but on the inside. His HEART carried him for one night and never did it before or since. Tyson was in shape. You don't go thru a 10 round brutal fight and take that punishment and not train!!!
@TheMHB199
@TheMHB199 5 жыл бұрын
Sure buster was the best version of himself that night. But to say he could hold his own against 'anyone in history' is a total falsehood. There were fighters that would have taken him out that night with ease.
@michaelwollner3940
@michaelwollner3940 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Douglas was great and won fair and square but on the night he would not have held his own against any heavyweight in history. Ali, Foreman, Holyfield and Lennox Lewis would have easily beaten him. Tyson was never a all time great.The 80"s was a weak era and yes Tyson did what he had to do and flattened everybody but he never faced true quality like Muhammad Ali, Joe Louis, Gerorge Foreman or Sonny Liston. Tyson was only 23 years old when he lost to Douglas. Past your prime with 23?...........Doesn"t make sense. Douglas was better than Tyson and that's it, nothing more and nothing less.
@anglychinaman2351
@anglychinaman2351 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelwollner3940 Being in their prime is not about age, Mike was at his prime when he was with Cus and Kevin. Leaving kevin because you prefer partying over boxing says enough about his dedication at the time. Mike was NEVER the same mentally after leaving Kevin, got alot of shit going on his life. Tyson with Cus nd Kevin could beat anyone easily even your Ali, George, Lennox.
@msw8966
@msw8966 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMHB199 I couldn't disagree with you more with Douglas's size strength mobility and experience he could have gave 95% of the top heavyweight champions hell at night. It was his night just like it was Joe Frazier's night against Ali just like it was Joe Louis's night against Max the German. The only guys I see giving Douglas a real problem that night and beating him was Foreman and Holmes and Ali and Lennox Lewis. There's a couple other ones sprinkled in there. You got to give Douglas's credit he fought his ass off and he beat the supposed unbeatable champion Mike Tyson.
@Thor-Orion
@Thor-Orion 3 жыл бұрын
This night was a very special night. His momma was giving him strength through the ether.
@pewsterbaby
@pewsterbaby 2 жыл бұрын
James Tillis was Tyson's first 10 round fight before he became champion. But a mere month later, Mitch Blood Green also took him the distance in May of 1986 in Madison Square Garden. Mitch Green - Legend.
@NothingParticularVid
@NothingParticularVid 5 жыл бұрын
I think the case for the Ruiz upset being bigger than Douglas comes from that Ruiz, unlike Douglas, was outside the top ten and was a 5 week notice replacement, as well as it being against a legit Joshua rather than a depressed, partying and not training at all Tyson
@october4th475
@october4th475 5 жыл бұрын
thats actually a decent argument. Though I think Ruiz absolutely SHOULD have been in the top ten. He is actually one of the better HW's right now and its odd that people arent and werent acknowledging that. The kid is an amazing mix of hand speed, power, chin, heart, offensive pressure, and technical ability, including a better defense than he is given credit for. Ruiz is seriously a very difficult HW for any champion to defeat
@joejoyce9979
@joejoyce9979 5 жыл бұрын
If you showed ten million none boxing fans who had no idea who Mike Tyson was, a picture of Douglas and Tyson next to each other, and ask them to pick a winner, I'm pretty sure the answer would be split, Douglas might even be favoured because he was the bigger man, However show ten million none boxing fans a picture of Joshua and Ruiz standing next to each other and NO-ONE is picking Ruiz, the man looks like he had just been rolled like a barrel out of the nearest mcdonalds and put into the ring, One of the worst physiques in boxing history vs one of the best
@Captain_Rhodes
@Captain_Rhodes 5 жыл бұрын
ruiz was a highly regarded boxer among most fans who only had one very close loss. the only thing that surprised me about that fight was his good endurance. i expected AJ to win by robbery or dodgy stoppage. the easy KO surprised me but not that ruiz was going to outbox him
@PrimereOfficial
@PrimereOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
yeah that makes sense
@mrniceguy7168
@mrniceguy7168 5 жыл бұрын
A partying and not training Tyson is only hindsight, people in 1990 wouldn’t be aware of his decline. It’s a case but it’s a weak case. Buster was a known quitter. There’s a reason the fight was in Tokyo and not Vegas even though Tyson was one of the most popular athletes in the world at the time.
@spookyboi317
@spookyboi317 5 жыл бұрын
Andy Ruiz looks like a kid goin' to Disney World win he wins over Joshua 😂
@metallic6711
@metallic6711 4 жыл бұрын
C. Michael He will smoke Wilder and Whyte he shouldn’t be made fun of
@cheefah3271
@cheefah3271 4 жыл бұрын
@C. Michael you don’t need the body of an athlete to be an athlete.
@bfgtech48
@bfgtech48 5 жыл бұрын
Buster Douglas always had the skill and everything fell into place in Tokyo. He was so ready and focused, that he would've beaten anyone that night. He boxed beautifully.
@donlawson9214
@donlawson9214 4 жыл бұрын
Rummy, I just fond your channel. I must say your analysis and break down of the fighters is truly fantastic. Unlike many you evaluate and put all factors into the proper perspective of time and place etc. Thank you for your great work and dedication to the sport.
@manuginobilisbaldspot424
@manuginobilisbaldspot424 5 жыл бұрын
16:54...Rummy, I'm so glad you bring this up. I mentioned it on a video of the fight here on KZbin. In many ways, this is Tyson's most courageous fight. Because Douglas hit him with more punches than he ATTEMPTED. And like you said, in spite of that, he never stopped looking for a way to land a big fight changing shot. That's the disservice people pay to both fighters. Because clearly Tyson didn't mail it in. He was just losing to a superior fighter that night. And instead of just quitting or whatever, he maneuvered himself in to position to land that brilliant short uppercut in the 8th round. And then he DESPERATELY tried to end the fight in the 9th round...Douglas was hurt, but he ALSO was full of courage and his will was just stronger than Mike's...the counter he had that left Tyson on his tiptoes staggered, basically was the climax of their struggle. The 10th round and the KO was merely the denouement.
@SantiagoTM1
@SantiagoTM1 5 жыл бұрын
Mr. Rummy, good Lord! You're investigative Sports Reporting with your analysis is absolutely brilliantly presented. It reminds me of a brilliant Legal Brief. No human being can get hit with a perfectly timed upper-cut, followed by a solid & ferocious Left Hook, followed up by a solid Right cross. Mike Tyson received all three perfectly timed punches. Iron Mike was ruined by his Corner, but especially by his promoter too, Don King. He was surrounded by a bunch of clowns who put horrible ideas into his head. Robin Givens, & her Mother (Those two were the original Kardashian Skanks) also saw just how stupid & vulnerable Tyson was, & she too set up to the tune of a $75 million dollar Divorce Settlement. All that shit happened way before the Douglas Fight, & his head/concentrations/training were no longer a priority to Tyson. Buster Douglas' mother's spirit was also a huge advantage for Mr. Douglas who died a month earlier. Read more
@SchizoFenikChannel
@SchizoFenikChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Yet another impartial and thoroughly researched video that expertly presents a boxing topic. Amazing work Rummy this was awesome and you gave both fighters the respect they deserve. Superb!
@HR-jy1nb
@HR-jy1nb 5 жыл бұрын
Great job rummy. Just when I thought my night was over you come in "cool as an assassin" dropping another ko video. Thanks
@murph165
@murph165 3 жыл бұрын
When the fight was stopped, one judge had the bout even and another actually had Tyson ahead. Absolutely criminal scoring.
@ReservoirPunk
@ReservoirPunk 5 жыл бұрын
Good enough to beat the breaks off a prime Mike. What a night. I still find it hard to watch to this day lol.
@rdallas81
@rdallas81 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@billmurray7721
@billmurray7721 5 жыл бұрын
Clown
@daveyboy_
@daveyboy_ 5 жыл бұрын
That wasn't a " prime" Mike. Mike hit his prime against Spinks.
@whatevermann3504
@whatevermann3504 5 жыл бұрын
@@daveyboy_ He fought Douglas just two fights after Spinks. Plus we don't know how good Mike was against Spinks because Spinks have him the fight, a terrified light-heavywieght who didn't even throw a punch, Douglas was a totally different beast, a 6ft4 240lb super-heavyweight with no fear and pure determination to win.
@devonalexandra9963
@devonalexandra9963 5 жыл бұрын
@@daveyboy_ This was only two fights after Spinks. Mike was still prime up until his incarceration.
@robertcatania1120
@robertcatania1120 Жыл бұрын
I honestly can't express how perfect of a video this was for me. I have literally expressed the same opinions and thoughts on countless times and couldn't agree more with what was said. 1. Prime Tyson - Was under Cus and Rooney, regardless of age and physical prowess when he lost to Buster, he was not "Prime" Tyson during that match. You nailed it on the mental aspects of fighters and especially Tyson at this point of his career. Tyson under Rooney and Cus could beat any heavyweight in my opinion. The magic recipe (that you said didn't exist) was that they were able to keep him focused and hungry because he never wanted to disappoint Cus. He was desperate for his approval. 2. Douglas was MASTERFUL that night - Yes, the extra motivation from his mother's passing played a big part. Yes, Tyson's lack of dedication to his craft and taking Douglas too lightly played a big part. However, Buster was truly incredible that night. It wasn't a fluke KO (like Lewis losing to Rahman or McCall), buster fought a near flawless fight for 10 rounds following a strict game plan brilliantly designed to win that fight against Tyson. I am a huge Tyson fan (and no I don't think he is the greatest fighter ever and I don't blindly defend him against all valid points) and this is the fight I have watched the most of his illustrious career. It astonishes me every time I watch it, just how good Douglas was and just how bad of a beating that Tyson took for 10 straight rounds. That KO is also one of the most beautiful combinations I have ever seen. 3. Tyson's Chin - I think it needs to be highlighted just how much of a beating Mike took in this fight, nobody could ever say he didn't have a good chin despite his KO losses. He took beatings in his KOs and was not an easy fighter to put down, not like the one punch KOs over Lennox from mediocre fighters. Ironically, I think Lennox had the better career, I just point this out because numbers/stats don't always tell the whole story. If you ask me who had a better chin Tyson or Lewis, I would undoubtedly say Tyson despite 6 KO losses to Lewis' 2. 4. Douglas vs Holyfield - I have also pointed out that the Douglas from Tokyo would have made a MUCH different fight against Holyfield then when they actually fought. You can't say that Holyfield KO'd the guy that whooped Tyson and say well Holyfield would have whooped prime Tyson too. It is not an apples to apples comparison, because like Tyson in Tokyo, Buster did not have the same motivation and mentality when he faced Evander 5 months or whatever it was later. He was overweight and did not look the hungry (the right kind) in that fight at all. Would Tokyo Buster have beaten Holyfield that night, I don't know, but I always say it would have been a much better showing than what we got.
@MrMABU97
@MrMABU97 5 жыл бұрын
it's exactly what's so great about boxing, as teddy atlas would say; for one night, you can make life fair. beautiful video sir rumsfeld totally agree with you.
@roo2127
@roo2127 4 жыл бұрын
Very great and concise points Rummy. One detail left out Douglas had his mother passed away and dedicated this fight for her. Douglas was more inspred than any other fight he had been involved. Loved the points on former champs losing intesity as professional boxing is such a grind that almost all start to take short cuts. Once again great vid! Keep those vids coming I totally enjoy your work.
@bigpapavee
@bigpapavee 5 жыл бұрын
I've said this many times. Tokyo Buster Douglas could have beaten any man on that night!! He was never as good before or since.
@bigpapavee
@bigpapavee 5 жыл бұрын
I even saw Buster years later, flabby and out of shape, take on a young ripped up and comer. He pieced that kid up like a master and I thought. Buster is way better than anyone ever gave him credit for, even though he did the "impossible". It wasn't so crazy though. Think about it, 6' 4" with great reach, great jab, great power and athletic. If he had discipline, he could have done way more.
@djhardcorproductions6132
@djhardcorproductions6132 5 жыл бұрын
He didn't even beat Mike Tyson that night 😂😂😂. Remember the long count... so the fight should have been over that fateful 9th round ko of Tyson.
@3.V.
@3.V. 5 жыл бұрын
@@bigpapavee agreed
@jml-rj5re
@jml-rj5re 5 жыл бұрын
Buster Douglas showed flashes against Tubbs, but he ran out of gas. Around Ohio, they called him the Natural. Tons of talent, but never focused and put it together before Tokyo.
@DanielSong39
@DanielSong39 5 жыл бұрын
@Ryan Scarborough Even if Tyson had gotten up at 8 the referee would have stopped the fight
@Dardanian888
@Dardanian888 4 жыл бұрын
This video completes the Tyson arguments once and for all. As a Tyson fan im fully content with this content.
@ficogonzalez9133
@ficogonzalez9133 5 жыл бұрын
In the words of Douglas himself "I was in the zone" and he was
@CharlesKoehne
@CharlesKoehne 3 ай бұрын
Thoroughly enjoy watching your analysis and breakdowns of classic fights and fighters. Thank you for all the hard work and dedication sharing your knowledge of the sweet science
@RummysCorner
@RummysCorner 3 ай бұрын
Much appreciated
@randalflagg3765
@randalflagg3765 5 жыл бұрын
It's almost as if you post new vids specifically timed for us west coast fans to have something to watch after getting home from the bar. I mean, 2:30 on the dot? Anyway your doing the lords work Rummy, thx👍
@OLCtv
@OLCtv 5 жыл бұрын
He still struggled at times like you mentioned with Rooney which proves he wasn't invincible.
@ocnbxng5038
@ocnbxng5038 5 жыл бұрын
The Tokyo Tyson never moved his head, had no precision and stood flat footed. That wasn't a prime Tyson. But I'm not taking credit away from Buster. Buster pulled off the greatest upset ever
@jakeyboy6546
@jakeyboy6546 5 жыл бұрын
That's a extremely good analogy
@ReservoirPunk
@ReservoirPunk 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it was prime Tyson. It was simply prime Tyson on an off night.
@joejoyce9979
@joejoyce9979 5 жыл бұрын
He WAS moving his head, if he wasn't.. he wouldn't of made it out of the first round, He would've been blocking punches with his face, Douglas was the better man on the night. He fought out of his skin!
@MaccaveliPL
@MaccaveliPL 5 жыл бұрын
So he was a prime Mike Tyson just one fight before but wasn't during that fight? Lol, just because you lose doesn't mean you're past your prime. Tyson still showed he was in his prime during Razzor Ruddock fights.
@lofaygang5822
@lofaygang5822 5 жыл бұрын
Disagreed tyson juss came ill prepared his bout previously he killed carl williams in 1 round but yeah u can say mentally after the spinks fight he wasn't the same
@pclindholm
@pclindholm 5 жыл бұрын
Rummy - I appreciate how you show great respect to each fighter. This was a tremendous video, thank you
@RidingBones
@RidingBones 5 жыл бұрын
To jump to the fight, go to 15:06 I never heard "Tokyo Douglas" ever before. Is it only me?
@Ffeoli1039
@Ffeoli1039 5 жыл бұрын
Same. It's actually kind of cool. Like buster Douglas's super form.
@bigmack2262
@bigmack2262 5 жыл бұрын
It just a way of saying Douglas’ performance and condition on this one particular fight.
@dantaylor7344
@dantaylor7344 5 жыл бұрын
No it's a term used by Tyson fangirls to deal with the fact their baby boy fighter isn't all he was cracked up to be. It's a method of suggesting Tyson wasn't on it that night and Douglas had special super powers given to him by Marvel Comics, rather than actually face the reality that Buster was just better than Tyson.
@Adam-cj2jg
@Adam-cj2jg 5 жыл бұрын
dan taylor 😂😂😂😂 fr
@rawheadrex1972
@rawheadrex1972 4 жыл бұрын
dan taylor Better that night. Not better career for career.
@morgancorey982
@morgancorey982 5 жыл бұрын
No one beats a prime Tyson... Well, when did his prime end? When he first got beat... Oh, ok.
@umbertoprofessore9417
@umbertoprofessore9417 5 жыл бұрын
Stupid.
@FelipeVieira39
@FelipeVieira39 5 жыл бұрын
Prime Tyson ends when whe fired Rooney. Thats my point of view
@JAMwithGeo
@JAMwithGeo 5 жыл бұрын
@@FelipeVieira39 Well noted. Look at his style before he fired Rooney. The body work he would put in to soften up his adversaries. He degraded into a head hunter looking for quick knockouts. Also, look at the lack of urgency in his corner from the trainers in this fight. They are whispering instead of prompting him to work the body and jab his way in. There's a fight where Tyson complains to Rooney that the opponent is holding. Rooney's response, "Bullshit, you're not punching!" Douglass's effort was herculean and you can't diminish this. However, he beat an ill trained Tyson who went into this fight suffering from syphilis. There's a reason Buster lost in three rounds in his first defense.
@jong2333
@jong2333 5 жыл бұрын
Cus died, Jacobs died, hired Don king and fired Rooney. Prime over. Turn your brain on
@Bellthorian
@Bellthorian 5 жыл бұрын
If you do a little research into Tyson's personal life and the insanity going on you can easily say he started declining when Cus and Jimmy Jacobs died. When Don King fired Kevin Rooney and replaced him with Aaron Snowell. Snowell, who had NEVER been a head trainer before was asked to train the heavyweight champion of the world. A fighter that was becoming more and more difficult to get to work in the gym as his personal life with Robin Givins was spiraling out of control. Snowell had no experience in the Cus'Damato peek a boo style that made Tyson so good. Snowell was so inexperienced he didn't bring an enswell to the ring that night in Tokyo. An enswell is a piece of metal trainers keep in a bucket of ice. It is used to help combat swelling around the fighters eyes. It is total incompetence on Snowell's part, as Tysons left eye began to swell his corner had no way to control it. If you watch the fight you will see Snowell using a rubber glove with ice water in it as a replacement for an enswell. With that eye swelling he had trouble seeing those straight rights coming down the pipe. Tyson was not prepared to fight that night, his corner was incompetent and his head trainer was a incompetent moron who only got the gig because he was black and was willing to work for Don King cheaply.
@manuginobilisbaldspot424
@manuginobilisbaldspot424 5 жыл бұрын
That Douglas would've been a problem for anyone 200-240 pounds in the heavyweight division, Lennox Lewis included. Obviously, his weaknesses made him more susceptible to certain styles, as is the case with all great fighters. He had stupendous movement, a fantastic jab, and fought in rhythm. But Tyson was TAILOR MADE for the man that walked in the ring that night. A jab to keep his rush at bay and the superior reach to work off of it. Tyson was completely flummoxed. I've said this many times, but people don't understand the finality of loss and how grief works. I think his mom's death and his son's mother's illness gave him something in the short term to focus on. But once the euphoria died down, he was without his best friend. I lost my dad suddenly in 2008 when he was just 51. I was strong for a lot of people in the weeks that followed. But once I moved, I would start crying out of nowhere at night and often couldn't sleep without a drink or sleep aids. We didn't see it coming, so all of the things you want to say but can't, the elements of life you're living without someone that means so much...it takes a toll. And Douglas was CLEARLY depressed before the Holyfield fight. He wanted to be anywhere on planet Earth other than that ring. That wasn't laziness, that was grief. It is the most tragic set of circumstances surrounding two of the most high profile heavyweight fights of the last 30 years. The same forces that propelled him to his greatest heights are what brought his life down...remember, his depression got so bad, he almost died in a diabetic coma due to all the weight gain he had. But on that night...on THAT NIGHT...that man who was in the ring whoopin' Mike Tyson...he would've given them all a run for their money.
@therationalcollection2999
@therationalcollection2999 3 жыл бұрын
Shows how much of our performance is based on mind set, purpose and drive. How much could we achieve if we had a awe inspiring purpose and drive for the rest of our lives even just 1 week?
@paulchester4135
@paulchester4135 5 жыл бұрын
Douglas beat one of the very best heavyweights of all time, in a time when tyson looked invincible. Massive accomplishment for Douglas. Personally this is the biggest upset ive ever seen! Douglas looked world class that night.
@georgegreig8054
@georgegreig8054 5 жыл бұрын
@Stuart Sutton I'm not a Tyson fanboy. But he stopped doing a lot of the things that made him fantastic. And whether you accept it or not he didn't prepare properly at all at the time.
@jswinder
@jswinder 5 жыл бұрын
Stuart Sutton It’s not an excuse, Tyson did not prepare well at all. There’s footage of him talking about fucking the women there. The further he went along his career without his mentor, the worse he got. Buster was one of the greats that night, either way.
@pantangela
@pantangela 5 жыл бұрын
Tysons training regimen consisted of hooker and booze coke fueled night against Douglas. The fact Tyson put up a fight against Douglas alone speaks volumes of his raw talent. Make no mistake Buster trained hard and was the better man that night. Congrats to that!
@TheMHB199
@TheMHB199 5 жыл бұрын
@@georgegreig8054 discipline and mental fortitude are traits required in a champion and in a true great. Saying he didn't try or didn't train properly is not only a pathetic excuse but even a bigger black mark on him.
@SantiagoTM1
@SantiagoTM1 5 жыл бұрын
Mr. Rummy, good Lord! You're investigative Sports Reporting with your analysis is absolutely brilliantly presented. It reminds me of a brilliant Legal Brief. No human being can get hit with a perfectly timed upper-cut, followed by a solid & ferocious Left Hook, followed up by a solid Right cross. Mike Tyson received all three perfectly timed punches. Iron Mike was ruined by his Corner, but especially by his promoter too, Don King. He was surrounded by a bunch of clowns who put horrible ideas into his head. Robin Givens, & her Mother (Those two were the original Kardashian Skanks) also saw just how stupid & vulnerable Tyson was, & she too set up to the tune of a $75 million dollar Divorce Settlement. All that shit happened way before the Douglas Fight, & his head/concentrations/training were no longer a priority to Tyson. Buster Douglas' mother's spirit was also a huge advantage for Mr. Douglas who died a month earlier. Read more
@borood1188
@borood1188 6 ай бұрын
Douglas was a very skilled fighter when in shape and motivated. He was in good shape and on a winning streak in the three years leading up to this fight.
@triggerhappyjay4794
@triggerhappyjay4794 5 жыл бұрын
*Love The Content You Bring , Much Love Keep Up The Reat Work Rummy* 👿
@TheGreatest1974
@TheGreatest1974 5 жыл бұрын
You are right in everything you say. Tokyo Douglas was an astoundingly good tactician that night, and would’ve competed very well with any heavyweight great. 🥊
@willbutler2850
@willbutler2850 5 жыл бұрын
You should do a 1-3 ranking video of Tyson, Lewis and Holyfield. I personally rank them as Lewis 1st Holyfield 2nd and Tyson 3rd
@tobyplayzzz9654
@tobyplayzzz9654 5 жыл бұрын
Will Butler I 100% agree
@andrewsmith423
@andrewsmith423 5 жыл бұрын
@@tobyplayzzz9654 i agree with that too.....spot on
@Rodzilla97
@Rodzilla97 5 жыл бұрын
yep, correct order
@jgk1703
@jgk1703 3 жыл бұрын
I've just finished reading the book on the Tyson Douglas fight (its on both men's careers before & after) it's called 'The Last Great Fight' & well worth a read. What came across was that Douglas had all the talent in the world but was very much a reluctant combatant, he was easy going by nature and mostly took that attitude into the gym / ring for most of his career. In my opinion if he'd kept the determination he had for the Tyson fight throughout his prime he'd have been one of the best heavyweights of the 90's. In fact had things panned out differently the 90's heavyweight scene could have been a golden era, Tyson, Douglas, Holyfield, Bowe and Lewis - could have been awesome. Unfortunately Tyson goes to jail, Douglas cashes out, Bowe ducks Lewis and we were all left frustrated.
@GrubKiller436
@GrubKiller436 2 жыл бұрын
That's life. Very understandable. Maintaining your best isn't easy.
@dansden10
@dansden10 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah though Lewis is the best of the 90’s IMO since he defeated every boxer of his era, and Holyfield fought literally everyone, the best of the best, he fought Mike, Douglas, Bowe and Lewis and while he didn’t win them all, he was a true warrior and he’s a close second
@serenityinside1
@serenityinside1 Жыл бұрын
I’ve read that book - it’s terrific and essential reading for true boxing fans. Btw Tyson “ trained” for this fight by banging Japanese waitresses and whores every day , only occasionally visiting the gym.
@raysierra4279
@raysierra4279 5 жыл бұрын
tyson critics always bring up Tyson how couldn't stop James Tillis....but when Lewis was a young up and comer.he couldn't stop third rate journeyman Levi billups.....quick Tillis rates higher than Levi billups...when billups retired.he had alot more losses.on his record than wins
@sebastianblackfyre
@sebastianblackfyre 2 жыл бұрын
Never be satisfied, be proud of small victories. Until the end goal is achieved to the last until the end of a career.
@yennox5338
@yennox5338 5 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, not many heavyweights in history would've beaten Tokyo Douglas.
@VanBurenPhilips
@VanBurenPhilips 5 жыл бұрын
@chris klein "You’re talking one night in history when the stars aligned just right." That's why he said Tokyo Douglas.
@marquismorris1548
@marquismorris1548 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah , what a performance. Greatness personified even for one historical night. A headache literally for all heavyweight Champions in any era.
@jackadoni
@jackadoni 5 жыл бұрын
dumb opinion
@MattmanAZ09
@MattmanAZ09 5 жыл бұрын
chris klein Tyson’s performance wasn’t really much different from the Ruddock fights. He was easier to hit and threw less combos in those days. Not so much an off night as off years. Buster had a legitimate performance. Unfortunately for him the only one at that level.
@lofaygang5822
@lofaygang5822 5 жыл бұрын
Nobody wouldve except tyson and tucker maby
@finallychee4808
@finallychee4808 3 жыл бұрын
James Buster Douglas: "Who are you?" Tokyo Buster Douglas: "I'm you, but better."
@rapnewsworldwide
@rapnewsworldwide 5 жыл бұрын
I’ll tell you what, he was alot better then people presumed
@demarcusmac2813
@demarcusmac2813 5 жыл бұрын
If you look at Tony Tubbs fight he had good skill, he had a good jab nd good right hand.
@rssphllps
@rssphllps 5 жыл бұрын
@chris klein - A little lazy! He routinely went up to over 300 pounds between fights. I think if he had a better work ethic he may have been one of the greats. Unfortunately, we will never know.
@TheMHB199
@TheMHB199 5 жыл бұрын
Or Tyson was worse than people presumed....? In actual fact a combination of both is where the truth lies. A middle ground. Not just black and white.
@Knocktfout
@Knocktfout 4 жыл бұрын
100 out of 100? I think not and i was and still am a Holyfield fan. He was my favorite until Morrison came along. 100 OUT OF 100 IS A WILD EXAGGERATION!
@craigsutton3076
@craigsutton3076 5 жыл бұрын
I could literally binge watch your channel until I’ve seen EVERY SINGLE VIDEO !
@ForeverZoeful
@ForeverZoeful 5 жыл бұрын
Doglas had the type of fight with tyson that was about will he said who wants it more whos got the will
@manuginobilisbaldspot424
@manuginobilisbaldspot424 5 жыл бұрын
Bingo. Which is exactly why Holyfield beats Tyson in any era. Their styles turn their fights inevitably in to a battle of wills. Holyfield's will was INDOMITABLE. He beats Tyson in 1989. He beats Tyson in 1991. He beat Tyson in 1996. He beat Tyson in 1997.
@demarcusmac2813
@demarcusmac2813 5 жыл бұрын
@@manuginobilisbaldspot424 why he lose to bowe?
@TheMHB199
@TheMHB199 5 жыл бұрын
Very true. One of the greatest assets to a fighter is his mental fortitude. That can be the no 1 defining factor in a career or even an individual fight. Look at ali and Frazier and how their wills were unwavering and unshaking. Holyfield the indomitable warrior. Just a couple of names among many other true greats. Tyson doesn't hold a candle to the true greats. I disagree with a lot of rummys opinions in this video. Tyson had a weak mentality that was build on the foundation of cus dmato. When cus died and was no longer able to provide that base it was clear that Tyson was himself mentally weak. Now to be fair he had a disgusting childhood and he was a scarred and in many ways broken person. I don't necessarily blame Tyson for it but the fact of the matter is to be a true champion and all time great that is something that is not optional. It is a requirement. Whatever the situation and history of why he didn't have it is irrelevant to the point. The fact he didn't have it is devastating and it showed through his entire career.
@duncaninglis5407
@duncaninglis5407 Жыл бұрын
Mate a perfect synopsis I just watched as a 20year old the greatest ever upset in history at The Bathurst Leagues Club a huge audience in country NSW Australia had come to see another Tyson execution the crowd was nearly silenced as Buster delivered the final blows and for years after that I still couldn’t believe what had happened in my eyes an 80s Mike destroys anyone in their prime throughout history, what Buster did that day was phenomenal his name will always be in the annals of World History because of the man he defeated that day. Love your work mate you’re the best🥊
@krissper2768
@krissper2768 5 жыл бұрын
You can only beat the one standing in front of you. I like how you break it down, and whatever anyone say. Mike Tyson is one of the greatest boxers of all time.
@kennethcalderon1987
@kennethcalderon1987 2 жыл бұрын
😠 Rummy your voice is fatherly, but for some reason it hype me up so much that sometimes I stand up and shadow box to Dubstep Remixes like for 15 mins. straight. My man, you going to kill me. I'm so fat, even my comment has "More" option. 🇵🇷 5'8" 275 pounds, Southpaw, flat footed, big bones, size 13"w and I only know how to fight going forward. Thank YOU Rummy for all the joy that you spread with your art 🙏 ❤️ it shows thru your hardwork. For you to be able to come to that "perfect" conclusion or answer. A person first most become more than a simple "boxing expert" 🙌 and YOU MAKE it look and sound so EASY. Most people have 0 idea of how hard you most research and prepare before every single video (i bet) it most be ridiculous hours. Thank you for everything Rummy. #ForeverLoyalToRummysCorner
@hanggo5710
@hanggo5710 3 жыл бұрын
“Tokyo Buster Douglas” another mythical fighter added to the roster lol
@arthouston7407
@arthouston7407 3 жыл бұрын
There's an old saying in boxing, a good big man will beat a good little man every time, that night Buster Douglas was a great "big man"
@ShurikRubik
@ShurikRubik 5 жыл бұрын
*The next video should be " Exactly how good was New York Andy Ruiz ?"*
@haroldpierce1987
@haroldpierce1987 4 жыл бұрын
Ruiz was good and respected until the Joshua loss. Before that he was undefeated the loss against parker was a bias
@rmalmeida1976
@rmalmeida1976 4 жыл бұрын
I remember while watching the build up during the PPV before the fight, that they said that one of Douglas' parents had just recently passed away and that Douglas was dedicating this fight to them.
@lukailic5439
@lukailic5439 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe better question is HOW BAD WAS TOKYO TYSON??? Great video tho 😊
@KHALABEEB
@KHALABEEB 5 жыл бұрын
This was my immediate thought when I saw the title
@billmurray7721
@billmurray7721 5 жыл бұрын
Luka Ilic he answered that in the video
@siegfriedo
@siegfriedo 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same thought instantly sprung up in my mind when I first saw the vid title.
@devonalexandra9963
@devonalexandra9963 5 жыл бұрын
Douglas made him look bad.
@apricotmadness4850
@apricotmadness4850 5 жыл бұрын
The same Tyson as always. He just finally found someone who wasn’t intimidated and was highly determined to beat his ass.
@OLCtv
@OLCtv 5 жыл бұрын
Glad I found this channel. I've been having the Tyson debate for the past month. Great stuff
@wyldshot666
@wyldshot666 5 жыл бұрын
I remember that night perfectly. I couldn't even sleep that night.
@SantiagoTM1
@SantiagoTM1 5 жыл бұрын
Mr. Rummy, good Lord! You're investigative Sports Reporting with your analysis is absolutely brilliantly presented. It reminds me of a brilliant Legal Brief. No human being can get hit with a perfectly timed upper-cut, followed by a solid & ferocious Left Hook, followed up by a solid Right cross. Mike Tyson received all three perfectly timed punches. Iron Mike was ruined by his Corner, but especially by his promoter too, Don King. He was surrounded by a bunch of clowns who put horrible ideas into his head. Robin Givens, & her Mother (Those two were the original Kardashian Skanks) also saw just how stupid & vulnerable Tyson was, & she too set up to the tune of a $75 million dollar Divorce Settlement. All that shit happened way before the Douglas Fight, & his head/concentrations/training were no longer a priority to Tyson. Buster Douglas' mother's spirit was also a huge advantage for Mr. Douglas who died a month earlier. Read more
@jaypaige7550
@jaypaige7550 5 жыл бұрын
Man this was a excellent video, loved the presentation and delivery !!!
@jarofcomics
@jarofcomics 5 жыл бұрын
I was 13 when I watched that fight. I was a huge fan of tyson and the shock was REAL
@themcadamsminute8494
@themcadamsminute8494 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this brilliant video that provides support and praise for both fighters on this special night.
@craigsutton3076
@craigsutton3076 5 жыл бұрын
Your channel is the most educated one of all in my eyes 👀
@Nonya_Business44
@Nonya_Business44 Жыл бұрын
Everyone forgets, Tyson wasn’t even training after Michael Spinks. He never stopped fighting with Buster Douglas. He didn’t give up. He was knocked down and he was rising. Now here’s the argument. The Spinks fight on back, no one beats Mike Tyson. After Spinks is a different story. And yes, Douglas had a magical fight.
@mattjean2652
@mattjean2652 4 жыл бұрын
That,my friend Rummy, is an excellent analysis of "Tokyo" Douglas! Thanks for putting it in perspective.
@FocusFactor2003
@FocusFactor2003 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Geoffrey: A boxing fan I am from birth. I am very blessed in knowing how to think. but, there is no way I could articulate to myself from within, nor any other way, my views on Buster Douglas "Tokyo Douglas", as accurately, precise, and on the money as you have. I thank you for all of those who have watched and are to watch your breakdown of the Douglas event in Tokyo. It's one of the best lessons in boxing from the fan's point of view that anyone can watch and hear. You are indeed the very best. Thank you - Again. Sid
@davidtjahjadi5079
@davidtjahjadi5079 5 жыл бұрын
Of course, first Tyson wasn't in his prime in tokyo. Second, in tokyo Douglas was just in the zone.. for one night Douglas did everything right...
@kellz1703
@kellz1703 4 жыл бұрын
Yea at 23 years old he wasn’t in his prime lol nah he just got beat by the better man
@robertkulikowski6380
@robertkulikowski6380 4 жыл бұрын
@@kellz1703 Bowe was in Prime against Golota?
@kenscott4702
@kenscott4702 3 жыл бұрын
Great video absolutely loved it. Subscribed right after watching it
@depaola63
@depaola63 5 жыл бұрын
I was 26 on this classic night, I LOVED IT !!!
@tuutts39
@tuutts39 5 жыл бұрын
Tummy, you have a mesmerizing gift for boxing commentary. I am a female who grew up with a father and brothers who MASSIVE boxing fans. And I absolutely HATED boxing because we only had one TV, which was devastating one nights with programs that I wanted to watch, and no repeats until the next year or so. I said all that to say, ..... YOUR boxing commentary has made me addicted to your videos and the sport. Shocking! I was too busy with housework one day while listening to KZbin videos when one of yours played. I was forced to listen because of a mountain of stuff around me. And that’s all it took. Please keep em coming. 😍
@rdallas81
@rdallas81 5 жыл бұрын
Ha! Good job Rummys Corner....I just watched some clips from thid fight the other day.
@mrkipling2201
@mrkipling2201 4 жыл бұрын
1985-1989 Mike Tyson was an absolute monster!! He was frightening!! In those few years I’ve never seen a boxer with such power. Mind you I remember watching his fight with Frank Bruno and at one point in that fight Bruno had him in trouble. Maybe that was a small warning that maybe he was getting complacent. That Douglas fight was a shock though, on a scale we hadn’t seen for I don’t know how long.
@mpforeverunlimited
@mpforeverunlimited 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like Lewis and holyfield were all time greats
@Ffeoli1039
@Ffeoli1039 5 жыл бұрын
Mostly agreed upon. Holyfield's steroid rumors hurt him a bit though
@Rodzilla97
@Rodzilla97 5 жыл бұрын
yes, both ahead of Tyson for sure
@amascia8327
@amascia8327 4 жыл бұрын
Tyson-Rooney was invincible. 20:36 ... a great disservice to both... Excellent presentation. Thanks. .
@nonyobussiness3440
@nonyobussiness3440 5 жыл бұрын
Buster could have been then goat. Best all around fighter period. He just never put it together besides that night
@AllUAreIsHistory
@AllUAreIsHistory 4 жыл бұрын
Because he fought one very good fight? Okay lol
@perkinsvalentine
@perkinsvalentine 3 жыл бұрын
Tyson - Holifield I and II, should've been Tyson - Holifield 2 and 3, with Tyson winning the first un-fought fight. Tyson's size and character messed that up. Unlike Ali, Tyson just didn't have the size to readjust after some years away from the ring to compete with bigger and better athletes.
@markus8553
@markus8553 5 жыл бұрын
19:01 holy smokes tyson's eyeball was about to pop out.
@nathanwebster2955
@nathanwebster2955 5 жыл бұрын
Whatever KZbin is paying you, they should double it! Your boxing content is second to none!
@brady.widlake
@brady.widlake 4 жыл бұрын
He really had that one great night against tyson and that was pretty much it
@t.wil.9646
@t.wil.9646 4 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson was one of the Greats. He was so feared he had most guys beat before the fight started. A fighter can only fight the fighters of his era. Tyson was a beast. Douglas was great on that one night. If you love boxing like I do let's give all fighters their due.
@3omdadameer466
@3omdadameer466 5 жыл бұрын
Always can’t see how tyson gets floored on the canvas
@mrtony80
@mrtony80 5 жыл бұрын
what
@awaben
@awaben 5 жыл бұрын
@@mrtony80 I think Mr Dameer's drunk.
@3omdadameer466
@3omdadameer466 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry my English isn’t the best I mean I can’t see mike gets knocked out
@PhflyDan1
@PhflyDan1 5 жыл бұрын
@@3omdadameer466 I get ya Brother! Still painful to watch! But probably more for Mike to TAKE them shots, brilliantly executed as they were..
@delrachdubal
@delrachdubal 4 жыл бұрын
What I notice as a Boxing historian and an observer, is that when Boxers or Man in general is faced with personal and family tragedy, Magical things can happen. We all know of the incredible story of Buster Douglas, and his Mother's passing and of Buster saying he would beat Tyson for his Mom, But the older George Foreman vs Michael Moorer another story and legacy was forming...... in Texas MASSIVE floods were happening, George had to get his Family out of there and into a Shelter for the Night. The Mental state of Foreman knowing of his Parents, and then finally getting a Shot against Moorer for the Belt must have been Heart Stopping. Larry Merchant even mentions this to Jim Lampley and Larry questions whether or not Foreman is on high ground Mentally as well as Physically for his Age. Hands of Stone Foreman was the better man that night, thus sealing Boxing History as we all know. This is indeed something to lookout for, In the Past, Present, and for certain in the Future.
@RingIQ
@RingIQ 5 жыл бұрын
First like, then watch
@strictlyufc9241
@strictlyufc9241 4 жыл бұрын
Im not a Mikr Tyson hater, but I think he was so good because he was so young and his enemies so old. In the 80's, thr good fighters were out of their prime. He was amazing, but lucky at the same time because all the amazing fighters were old and out of their prime
@milospopovic4878
@milospopovic4878 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing! I just watched the whole match yesterday (haha what a coincidence), he really gave Tyson a serious beating that night, too bad that he did not continue in the same way afterwards. Later that year, he would eat Holyfield for breakfast if he prepared and fought like that night in Tokyo.
@ninjazzrhythm400
@ninjazzrhythm400 5 жыл бұрын
Not really because tyson claimed he never went to camp for this fight.
@patrickcharles7190
@patrickcharles7190 3 жыл бұрын
Before the Douglas fight, if you remember, Mike would knock opponents down with a miss. These guys dreaded that brutal uppercut so much that they'd fold. They were scared and came for the check...thry didnt come to fight. Douglas didnt get the memo. He came to fight. Tyson wasn't used to facing opponents that weren't terrified of that mind-altering uppercut. Buster fought and fought with everything he had. He was the best fighter that night and earned that win. He deserved it.
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