Running My House Off Reliable 3000W Split Phase Inverter

[@JustinCaseSolarPower]

Inverter builds have improved so much over the years. I remember the big old power hungry clunkers we used to use. Great video as always my friend 👍👍

[@GoingOffGrid101]

thank you, split screen is new to me and I had a hard time editing it lol but it turned out ok ish. this new inverter from reliable is by favorite yet I think it will be the more robust one yet. I am also a fan of LF inverters as you know so know :D

[@JustinCaseSolarPower]

@@GoingOffGrid101 I shifted to HF inverters do efficiency over the LF inverters. Thought the LF inverters can take a lot more of a beating and have a larger surge capacity. As we are a very energy efficient home they are all i need.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

@Justin Case Solar Power and Bush Camping Australia yes , hf is more efficient, but as you can see I use to much power for hf inverters for my house but am always down to try a hf inverter that says they can do it lol 😆

[@JustinCaseSolarPower]

@@GoingOffGrid101 HF would do it. Not a problem. You just have to make sure you have your startup loads covered. You can do anything if you plan and then build it right. Few more years and there will be no such thing as a LF inverter. So look after what you have now. Worst thing i found with HF inverters is you need a very stable power on your generators as backup. Thank god they also make inverter generators for that now.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

@@JustinCaseSolarPower ill be keeping an eye out, I love testing new inverters :) thanks I will keep watch so if you review a new inverter I will see it.

[@ww321]

I bought WZRELB 3500. I'm hoping it will handle the inrush current from my well. It runs at 1800 watts. Thanks for the videos

[@GoingOffGrid101]

@@ww321 240v?

[@GoingOffGrid101]

@@ww321 . Mine did around 4200w surge . Hope it starts your pump

[@ww321]

@GoingOffGrid101 yes.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

@ww321 might work but even one of my magnasine 4400w inverter can't start all water pumps, it very dependent on the pump.

[@howardescoffery4950]

Man my brother excellent video, practical. May i say this? watching your video allow me to see so much difference between countries. Firstly our home electrical panels are not that big except for commercial properties we don't run them high electrical consumption things there, secondly our homes have to be block, steel and concrete as we are prone to hurricanes. I wonder though the cost of that inverter isn't much different from a low cost low frequency inverter. Still I love videos where you actually see it running household things and not a capacity tester.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

yes I also like watch videos from other countries to see the differences. thanks for watching and the comments I love reading them all!

[@jwsolarusa]

Fantastic test 👍

[@GoingOffGrid101]

thank you! it was fun testing it.

[@leighamos489]

I have two 3000w reliable inverters they're 24 volt one of them you help me repair with the better mosfets when I get my retirement cottage built I'll definitely be looking into one of these

[@GoingOffGrid101]

haha nice! this one seems well protected form surges.

[@frankz1125]

I tell people many times its not the size of the house its the loads you want to run in that space. Cheers

[@GoingOffGrid101]

yes even a 3000w can run a house if your careful.

[@frankz1125]

Nice place youre building. I gotta get out there this summer. Cheers

[@GoingOffGrid101]

yes Id love to have you and your fam.

[@frankz1125]

@@GoingOffGrid101 will do when the weather gets better. Cheers

[@offgridwanabe]

Amazing, a tough little guy.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

yea not bad for a small inverter!

[@roosterprice]

How has it done since this video was posted? Do you have neutral and ground bonded in your ac system?

[@GoingOffGrid101]

@@roosterprice yes, it guts used everyday

[@simplyfocus9937]

I am curious about what happen to the genetry inverter/ powerjack that you were testing.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

Genetry is in my shed as a backup, 6000w is to small for my house, I have the 12k coming. I did blow the fees ok on the genetry but pretty sure I shorted it out by accident 😅. Powerjack also blew up the same way, I'm going to try and replace the fees in the power jack

[@roberthosking7524]

14/3 wire is designed for up to 15 amp loads and should only be used on a 15 amp breaker right? So once you draw more than 15 amps on one leg your circuit breaker in the panel should trip, right?

[@GoingOffGrid101]

@roberthosking7524 120v a breaker will hold for a minute or two at 20-25 amps typically before tripping. Or even 30-40 amps for a few seconds for starting loads before tripping

[@Hollywood4Fun]

​​​​@@GoingOffGrid101here's an interesting video of a guy maxing out a 14 gauge household wire. From what I read in the comments over there 14 gauge is actually rated for 25 amps but there's a safety margin factored in by the NEC that advises it only be used on 15 amp circuits. They also advised not running more than 12 amps continuous through it. By the looks of it those are pretty conservative mandates. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5TGgJqVf5aLntksi=uGHsI9x8t4eSt2QN 0:05

[@thedabbler2753]

So I noticed in the manual last thing in section 3.5 - Inverter Output Layout, in NOTE point 2 it reads "If the house neutral wire is combined with the ground, connect the N line with it, leave the G line alone. Do not connect the inverter's G line with the N line together". Trying to figure out if that means connect the two hots to the breaker as you have done, connect the neutral, but don't connect the ground. I can see you did connect your ground though and all seems fine. Also, I tried the old voltmeter test expecting Hot to neutral 120, hot to ground 120 and neutral to ground 0v (ish), but it didn't turn out like that. The hot to neutral is 120v, but the rest is all over the place. I jumped the ground terminal on the block to a house ground to see if that would make a difference but it didn't. Plugging a Klein outlet tester in shows a few things are wrong. As you have the same inverter, I was wondering if you could take a look at the above and see what you get.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

I get 102v from L2 to ground bor 0 everywhere else, I did bond my ground and neutral. You could try putting a 14w led there and see it it powers it if not you can bond it.

[@thedabbler2753]

@@GoingOffGrid101 how did you bond them? Does that mean bonded on the inverter or in the house panel? Might be another video! Seems like there’s some confusion in the forums on this stuff regarding WZRELB / reliable inverters.

[@omidyousefian4109]

@@thedabbler2753 , looks like older models had issues with N_G bonding: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJzdnqiaZ6t9oZo but I think newer versions don't have those problems.

[@TheGrimshaw]

I wonder how the 3500watt module works

[@GoingOffGrid101]

Do they have one that's split phase?

[@TheGrimshaw]

What do you think about a 5000watt reliable inverter with a steap up transformer just to run the 240 loads?

[@GoingOffGrid101]

I think this inverter is better, then using a transform that uses almost 80w at idle

[@GoingOffGrid101]

also the I am not sure how good the 5000w is, I have never tried it.

[@fritzkabeano1969]

Maybe should reroute the microwave circuit onto the other leg that's not usually drawing so many amps?

[@GoingOffGrid101]

yes I was thinking the same, nice to see the info on the screen!

[@gabaradama144k9]

How was that inverter holding up? Does it seem to be clean power?

[@GoingOffGrid101]

So far so good 👍

[@thedabbler2753]

Is there any way to set the battery cut off and reboot voltages? I'd hate to think it'll just run until 48v and kill the battery.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

I have added a BMS battery management system that prevents these things. im not sure if you can set the cut off voltage.

[@kennethnguyen3382]

I had the 4000w inverter and hooked it up to the battery, the inverter just shut off when the battery dropped to 48 volts, it’s sucks.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

@kennethnguyen3382 what battery you using?

[@kennethnguyen3382]

@@GoingOffGrid101 200ah lifepo4 with 100BMS

[@GoingOffGrid101]

@kennethnguyen3382 does your bms have Bluetooth?

[@randylenart9674]

Seams to be a decent budget friendly inverter

[@GoingOffGrid101]

yes it does, I might have a long term test coming this summer.

[@RJ-cc1fz]

House is coming along.. I might have to get me one of those inverters and sell my 4kw Reliable. However it’s the more expensive better version of the reliable so I might not but it’s only 120v, 240v would be nice.. I could heat my water heater during power outage.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

I will have to do some long term test! I would say this is better then the 4000w 120v though, it seems to have a better surge at 240v plus a soft start after that.

[@feltonrolle2457]

I do believe heater elements will run on 120 volt!! My 240 element does very well.

[@mark_osborne]

You must wonder if their quality has improved at all I suppose time will tell !

[@GoingOffGrid101]

I think it is getting better I really like the way this one is built my self.

[@pederb82]

that's funny you say whole house tho. :) Of course a 300 watt one can run a whole house if you only run lights. :) You maxed out your big ones yesterday. This one cant take that. :) If you load that with 200+ amps that busts into fire.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

I did that on purpose to show the difference. :) but yesterdays video was showing 2 houses the apartment is 1250sq ft and is all electric.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

o and btw that 200+ amps was on the DC side not the AC side, this 3000w inverter is showing AC side. :D

[@bimmers323ci]

Sick

[@GoingOffGrid101]

mad!

[@GoingOffGrid101]

did I do it right ?

[@bimmers323ci]

@@GoingOffGrid101 yep

[@Trumpinator-47]

3K running whole house? Good luck because that's very low wattage.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

@@Trumpinator-47 yeah you have to be very careful lol

[@gfl1957]

Is this a joke?!

[@solarcharging9743]

High frequency, transformerless inverter like these off a poorer surge capacity and a much shorter life expectancy than modern low frequency, transformer based inverters. Even worse, during a catastrophic failure of the control circuitry the can dame your AC appliances because they lack any galvanic isolation between the inverter's DC boost stage and its AC output. No thanks.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

very interesting thanks for letting me know!

[@JonOffgrid]

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