Russians are fleeing their homeland in protest of Putin’s draft

[@yourock3794]

"I am a refugee, and at the same time the aggressor" That hit hard...

[@Julia-nl3gq]

They're not refugees. Avoiding military service does not make you a refugee. A refugee is someone fleeing a war in THEIR country. It ticks me off that these people call themselves refugees, when they are not. I don't like them, I don't agree with what they're doing, and I think all Russians should be forced to stay in Russia. No country should take them in. I'm am 100 percent on Ukraine's side, what Russia is doing is pure evil, Zelensky is AMAZING, but you'll notice that all these Russians who are fleeing Russia never had a problem with the war until it effected them personally. They are selfish. They think only of themselves. When the war didn't effect them, they didn't have a problem with it. They only care about it now that it effects them. They are not refugees. Other countries should not take them in and give them hand outs. If they had morals, they would stay in Russia, and revolt against Putin, and actually change things.

[@caroline4323]

Not his fault. I understand he feels bad but honestly, as a "westerner" (former Eastern bloc) I feel guilty as well. When Russia annexed Crimea the west didn´t do much. And I felt so angry and anxious about it. That was a precedent that should not have happened. We are as guilty as Russia.

[@footballnerd277]

@@caroline4323 We are somewhat at fault. But definitely not as guilty as Russia.

[@julianavareta6434]

The problem for Russia is the people leaving are the productive, educated ones

[@YujiroHanmaaaa]

"educated"? hahahahah The educated and last piece smartest of the smart already left in Feb/March 2022... Those who are leaving are one of the most dangerous who didn't care about politic but (still) support Putin's Regime. Once these guys will arrive in other countries they will still support the war

[@jimperkins6073]

Proof?

[@vercoda9997]

@@jimperkins6073 Troll. Edit: You're a known troll. Now have the pretence of a shred of decency and change your avatar to Not be a child.

[@SueFerreira75]

And those dying in Ukraine are young men, who are a country's future fathers. Demographically, Russia is doomed.

[@KOKOBC]

@@jimperkins6073 I would say typically, the more educated someone is the more they want to not be involved in a war

[@michaelangelolozande2746]

"How can I take part in the war without a wish to win this war." My thoughts exactly. Well said. Keep safe you all.

[@positivelastaction3957]

That's why the Ukraine is gaining and will ultimately be victorious, because every single Ukrainian who is fighting wishes very much, to win this war.

[@americafirst2785]

They don't want to die for one man's stupidity, for one man's pride, they are smart Russians.they know their country was not attacted,it's a senseless war and they cannot fight in cold blood,for nothing more then stupidity.

[@handmadehearts]

ras(putin) has strengthened NATO, weakened his army, hurt his country, and now Russians are voting with their FEET... with 2 middle fingers held high as they salute ras(putin)

[@vercoda9997]

@Kyle Kyle Shilling for Russia, comrade? I hope it's worth it.

[@NeoDragonCount]

@Kyle Kyle With what weapons, armor, materiel, etc? What? You think they're just gonna rush the armed Ukrainian defenders with rocks and sticks just to appropriate their weapons while hoping they don't get shredded by assault rifle or machinegun fire or blown to bits by artillery and/or grenades?

[@DQ_Mine]

These men are heros. Leaving to avoid murdering their neighbors is very commendable. I wish them well. ♡

[@uncleanunicorn4571]

Doctors, i.t. people, imagine the brain drain that Putin has caused.

[@arlenesecrist354]

WE could use them in Fla. or Texas.

[@TOMAS-lh4er]

WOW , YES , I was thinking the same thing , Putin has Destroyed any future Russia had , Russia will be a 3rd world country soon , Russia will be more Toxic than the NAZIs were ,

[@mnomadvfx]

@@arlenesecrist354 You say that but everyone knows that Republicans don't like immigrants (all your politicians do is spend their time badmouthing them) so they won't be going to Republican states now will they?

[@anitagorse9204]

Female doctors and nurses are escaping Russia as well. They can be drafted to the frontline to take care of wounded soldiers.

[@tomlxyz]

Less people to doubt him

[@hueg.513]

I guess the "Motherland" is now the "Wasteland". Glad to see some Russians standing up though 👍

[@pokey5736]

Especially the girl at the state tv station who held up the sign. Hope she is in a safe place.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

Just remember that Russia is not some faraway eastern place. It's next door to Canada.

[@stevenorris4549]

@@RideAcrossTheRiver it’s next door to the US too. We share a maritime border with them.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

@@stevenorris4549 Toronto and NYC act like Russia is "halfway around the globe" when it's two days' drive across the North.

[@desputnikcommander]

@@RideAcrossTheRiver It's pretty much next door to everywhere

[@jacquie212]

700k have left as of 2 days ago. If you draft 300k, then this is 1million people of economically productive age. There are approx 80million Russians between 24 and 65. This means that 1 in 80 potential workers have left so far!!!! And these are the brightest and best, so they are probably 1 in 10 of the best Russia has. That is 100s of billions in lost productivity for Russia. This might actually hurt the economy more than the sanctions!

[@viconichol]

There are 30 millon men between 21 and 50 in Russia.

[@fasttube1948]

Which country is giving them visa

[@DAndyLord]

Billions of ₽ millions of $.

[@jacquie212]

@@DAndyLord assuming the average salary is $20k for these 1M that is a direct impact of $20Bn. But then you are not figuring in the jobs that these 1 million create by using goods and services. Then there is the fact that the companies that hire each of these workers is probably earning multiples of what they pay them in output. GDP impact will be 100s of billions of $...

[@AS-rk5vb]

If 700k people have left that's not a million. The 300k drafted haven't left. So that's going to effect your calculation. That means less than 1 in 80 million people between 24 and 65. (700k is 0.875% of 80m). How can you say that the brightest of Russia have left without totally disrespecting the rest of Russia lol. I do agree with you about the lost productivity though, that's going to hurt their economy.

[@jammzy2959]

That is not a protest. That is fear.

[@weakw1ll]

Underrated

[@antoinette.m.]

And to go to war to kill innocent people is bravery?

[@weakw1ll]

@@antoinette.m. being fearful doesnt necessarily make you a coward, see

[@heyitstrash4681]

Salute to those Americans who felt same after America aggression. 🥰

[@almatkakimov1499]

Kazakhstan will welcome anyone that needs help ❤ Kazakhstan loves Ukrainians and Russians that are for peace ✌️ ❤❤❤

[@focaseal3676]

I salute Kazakhstan.

[@FMFvideos]

wawaweea borat welcomes everyone

[@Crashed131963]

Take too many Russians in and Putin will come to liberate them too.

[@mr.v3061]

@@davidflynn6790 i totally read that in Borat his voice!

[@Scirvir24]

God bless Kazakhstan! Much love from Mexico

[@brendanbehan2289]

Take Putin out before he takes us all out.

[@annmarieknapp2480]

:)

[@bagamnan9170]

how you planning on doing that he distances himself from even his trusted circle hes ex-KGB you think hes stupid enough to hang his head out a window? what im getting at its not that easy

[@rottweilerfun9520]

@Alex Perez , lmaooo....you watch a lot of action movies ?

[@hughmanatee5096]

A coup of Putin's regime will have to involve the Russian military and I'm sure there are many who are thinking about it if not already planning it.

[@Enki35Productions]

You can't just remove a president of a nuclear powered country. Sheesh. Utterly ridiculous!

[@liam2386]

as a 36 year old man.... i couldnt imagine the stress and sadness of having to abandon everything you know for lands unknown... with no plan.... to avoid a war you dont even want.... i hope you all stay safe and all innocent people caught up in this invasion eventually find peace

[@HollyFurgason]

Millions of Ukrainians have had to do the same thing because of this murderous war. I have no compassion for the Russians who flee instead of working to stop the war.

[@LeutnantJoker]

It's not that hard actually if you have a good education and the ability to quickly find work. I moved relatively spontaneously to a new country recently myself. It's not that hard as long as you are well qualified, which most of these seem to be. As they say, home is where the heart is. You can make a home for yourself in any free country. that's the beauty of the free world and that's what Ukraine is defending right now.

[@liam2386]

@@LeutnantJoker but you didnt flee.... to a country that doesnt really want you... with 100s of 1000s of other in a 2 day period. oh yeah... and ur move was a CHOICE

[@kenstewart160]

I did exactly that when I had to take my family out of reach of russian war criminals on 26 February. I have no sympathy for the Russians. They are all complicit.

[@kenstewart160]

I did exactly that when I had to take my family out of reach of russian war criminals on 26 February. I have no sympathy for the russians. They are all complicit.

[@tommycollier9172]

I felt the same way in 1970, I didn't want any thing to do with Vietnam but I found myself there anyway

[@GotoHere]

Another war started by democrats.

[@JuanFlores-ii2fl]

I'm proud of those young men who refuse to fight for the ego and greed of old men Who soon will die. Those young men and women are the real heroes of the world

[@HitnGiggleGolf]

heroes who stayed silent while their country was massacring innocent Ukrainians by the thousands and destroying entire cities? I think not

[@addanametocontinue]

I don't know if "proud" should be the word. I agree with them leaving, but what they're doing isn't exactly heroic. Heroic is if you go protest in public in Russia about how you don't agree with the war. In that case, you're going out of your way to try to save people. In this case, you simply flee because you don't want to die for an unjustified war. Self-preservation isn't heroic. Again, I would do the same, but I would not consider myself a hero or expect people to be proud of--or disappointed in--me.

[@kerrynofford4727]

@@addanametocontinue Yep. These guys were fully in support of teh war, until they risked being sent to the front. It is only then that they ran.

[@jashargubetini2477]

@@kerrynofford4727 you can't possibly know that ....

[@muprock]

@@tatyanafadden2005 Educated, skilled men in their prime leaving Russia is a potentially effective form of sabotage. It will affect the economy and damage Putin's credibility as a leader. It also gives them the option of fighting the regime at the time, place and circumstances of their own choosing, rather than on Putin's terms.

[@sisterdoublehappiness9714]

They don't want to be canon fodder for a man who clearly couldn't care less about their fates. Can you blame them for leaving their Motherland?

[@justice3125]

Russia is losing so many of its most talented young people. Many have gone to Finland, Georgia, Sweden and Kazakhstan. That is an intangible loss that isn't being factored into the impacts of this war on the Russian economy today and in the future

[@pokey5736]

Even showing up in Alaska asking for asylum. Heard that on the news yesterday.

[@powerboon2k]

I feel so bad for the Russian people. Just an absolute outpouring of sympathy. My heart bleeds for them, really.

[@jmi5969]

This would happen even if there was no war and no Putin, albeit at a slower pace. Russia is just too cold. People seek warmer places, and the young, the able and the wealthy are the first ones to defect.

[@salia2897]

Oh that's factored in, just not by Russia. But loss of well educated young to middle aged people was something known to be weakening Russia right from the start of the war. They have been leaving for years, there was a first wave at the beginning of the war and now it really exploded. And many of them won't come back after the war. This will keep Russia down for a generation.

[@0kaiKai]

They are not talanted and not very young. Most drafted people are 35+ years old. And fine for refusing to draft is less than 50$. People who run from Russia because of mobilisation are dumbest imbeciles you could ever find.

[@aprilroston3608]

Wherever these men can get to for safety I pray that they make it there. This is heartbreaking and no one deserves this. Not the Russian citizens nor the Ukrainians.

[@gak2008]

"How can I take part in war without a wish to win this war" WOW this says sooo much. Heart isn't in it.

[@Larry26-f1w]

You say sooo little despite thousands of posts

[@heyitstrash4681]

And party girls of Ukraine fighting with russian tourists in Turkey while everyone in Russia don't want NATO countries around them 🤣🤣🤣 what a joke from Pakistan..😁

[@joaneskins6510]

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire

[@zebeart8808]

Perfect quote to send to Trump worshippers

[@lilacscentedfushias1852]

@@zebeart8808 I agree! Ordinary rz people are brainwashed just like the magas are by crap they’re told.

[@PS-vm3we]

@@zebeart8808 and pro-vaxxers

[@nicky-pn3pj]

Anything to say yourself?

[@Hunter-zp5hd]

You could use that quote about every other country on this planet. Not one single country or empire is innocent of that; including the US.

[@XHobbiesPrime]

All of the police and recruitment officers chasing these men should be sent to the front instead.

[@viconichol]

Who will defend Putin then?

[@haymaker710]

Some cops have already been sent to Ukraine.

[@TheGrmln83]

When there's no one left to chase, they will be.

[@kvazimedvedababl]

@Sonomacats 5 million police rosgvardia fsb etc in Russia send 1/5 to the frontline and no need to mobilize, but they have to protect the old man hes to afraid

[@gaoxiaen1]

Eventually, they will be. The professional Russian army has already been slaughtered, the untrained conscrpt amateurs are being slaughtered now, and Putin's police/security force is on deck. Putin's biggest threat is his own senior officers and security guards.

[@mariao434]

Thanks God that they choose the right path. Please protect them and their loved ones.

[@perrywhite3955]

Hi

[@maydixon-yuras9927]

God is nothing, may good kevlar protect these men.

[@truthwisdom1824]

This is the best way to say, NO to WAR.

[@jamesaritchie1]

BS. This is the best way to say, "We're all cowards. Please let us live in your country. If you get in a war, though, we'll run from it, too."

[@RedmondtJacks]

This is not a protest, we fear for our lives and lives of close ones, and when our government (as it always does) changes the rules once again to legally give a death sentence to almost 2/3 of male population, it sure does spark that fear into fight or flight. Remember the first day? First hour of mobilisation - someone already booked an airplane ticket. It’s not about cowardliness, it’s about modern world which excludes wars as those are nonsense, but old people still think it’s that time, that it’s ok to bring it up, like it’s ok to even do wars. And for the past 20 years (and that’s a whole generation) we’ve been fed only lies so absurd, that reality itself was so far from it that it sounded absurd. In the 90 there still was freedom of speech, now it’s just a money farm for oligarchs, we can’t say anything bad about government out loud (or at least officially) can’t post it on the internet, all the people who tried to fix the government are either dead or in prison, any protest (even just a small group standing with signs and not even shouting anything) is considered aggressive, all the choices for us were rigged. For 20 years we, people, had no say in what and how our government does, the only thing we can is either hide somewhere deep in the country which is a bad idea or run away which can not be a afforded by everyone

[@yevgenyblinov48]

@@jamesaritchie1 Well, not all people are built for war, you know. People run from wars all over the world, especially from 3rd world countries. It's natural to run away from wars, because was are for soldiers, not for civilians

[@truthwisdom1824]

@@droiddevx03 So be brave and sacrifice your life!

[@jloveinnc]

How did one man get so much power. He must be taken out.

[@johnbrown3235]

why not lead in that initiative?

[@dr.jamesolack8504]

@@johnbrown3235 I’ll do it. Edit: ….with assistance from the NSA/CIA, no problemo! Old U.S. Army war veteran. Shot expert (39/40) with the M-16. It would take just one round strategically placed. With a scope, 600-800 yards would be a snap!

[@johnbrown3235]

@@dr.jamesolack8504if you say so!!

[@tankandspank]

Those who do not make it and are forced into service should seriously consider a revolt.

[@rebeccaaldrich3396]

Or giving themselves to the Ukrainians by waving a white flag.

[@genericscout5408]

All the people brave enough to revolt were killed in 1920, ever since then only evil torturing KGB have been kept alive. And corruption has become the law of the land. They're all fleeing because no one wants to die for a corrupt leader. But if they were in the seat they'd love to do the exact same thing.

[@ramr7051]

They don't have the balls for it

[@TooSlowTube]

All they really need to do is immediately surrender, on arrival in Ukraine.

[@sloth9669]

Maybe they all should just revolt rather than just the few who don’t have an out.

[@frankhynd885]

If a million of the best young educated Russians leave, that is quite a loss to Russia where skilled people are in very short supply.

[@EricaNernie]

Educated, savvy, English-speaking - a gift to those countries needing skilled labour. I wish them well.

[@memkiii]

You might regret that when they take your job.

[@lunafringe10]

lots of high paid jobs there 😂😂😂😂😂

[@jameshart678]

Russia does not need these people. They don't have what soviet's call 'fair intelligence'!!

[@bespokepenguin103]

@@memkiii Another person who doesn't understand economics 😅😅😅😅

[@alexandrabug19]

Smart Russians coming to america. I have hope but I'm aware of how bad put in wants to win

[@mpalfadel2008]

Victory to Ukraine 🇺🇦 🇺🇸🇬🇧🇵🇱🇨🇦🇩🇪🇸🇪🇫🇮🇫🇷🇰🇿🇦🇺🇯🇵🇹🇼🇰🇷

[@Omarksa]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mikematienzo9663]

There is no victory on war.

[@Omarksa]

Yesterday, gasoline rose in America Next week, the food will go up And then America will lose its economy and will not support Ukraine 😂🇸🇦🇷🇺

[@nmg1909]

@@Omarksa How about grain coming up in Arab nations? A letter of hunger!

[@mikematienzo9663]

@@Omarksa i highly doubt that.

[@shellimendoza6875]

Thank you Russian people, for realizing Putin is a "madman"

[@duhni4551]

They have known it long time, they just don't do anything about it. Russians as a people are sort of people who doesn't give a flying F long as nothing affects them, problem is that Russians have long history of just getting by. So they tolerate. And do what is told by their government. These numbers fleeing doesn't make even a smallest dent on anything and that is the reality of it.

[@kakampink-h4e]

yeah but it took so long.

[@positivelastaction3957]

Most Russians approve of Putin still, if not more than before the war.

[@positivelastaction3957]

@@valkimura1053 please explain?

[@leschatsont9vies]

@@positivelastaction3957 yes because THEY know the real reasons for all this mess

[@metalmouse2953]

It's a quite complex subject that brings mixed feelings as on one side you can understand not wanting to be drafted to go to war and how scary that might be but on the other hand, these people have stood by and gone on with their lives in Russia while Ukraine was being bombed out day and night. It's not until it could (conditional, not even definitive) affect them directly that they've decided to take some kind of action. Not sure this is to be seen as a refugee crisis. Note: the couple explaining their dilemma in designer clothes and in an apartment with a dining table the size of whole room bring little sympathy to the issue being discussed here.

[@philipnguyen8844]

Yes it is quite complex. We can't read the minds of those fleeing but we can only guess. Some are calling them heroes but are they really? They could be, yes. Deciding to stand up to poutine and not fight for his crazy beliefs. They could also be fleeing because they are afraid to die. We don't know if they are truly against Poutine or they just want to live. The russians who protested on Russian streets are to me admirable and heroes. Risking their lives for something they believe in.

[@trudymcewen9801]

The Russians are not refugees. They are people who do not want to go to war. Ukraine are refugees. They had it hard to get into the US when it should have been easy. The Russians should not be allowed to come to Alaska. Their country was not being bombed. They did not have families killed needlessly. I do not feel sorry for any Russian. They should ban together and get rid of the tyrant.

[@thjbird]

How do you ask someone to die in an unnecessary narcissist’s war?? I’m betting that they would fight if they were unjustly attacked.a very different thing.

[@brettfavrewelfarequeen9886]

You don't. You force them just like Pootin is doing.

[@SocomElite]

Did you ask this question when the US invaded the middle east under false pretenses? You people are such hypocrites it's hilarious 😂

[@julianciahaconsulting8663]

idk..i will ask one of the tens of 1000s of americans who fled the USA during the Vietnam War into my country Canada and get back to you

[@ianp327]

@@julianciahaconsulting8663 And still vilified for doing so.

[@gruevlock24]

@@julianciahaconsulting8663 Are you indigenous ?

[@joaneskins6510]

"When I look into Putins 👁 👁 eyes I see the KGB." Republican Senator John McCain/The last of The Good Republicans R.I.P.

[@musicdirector8661]

“When I look into Putin’s eyes I see his soul” GEorge W Bush

[@valkimura1053]

When I look into Biden's eyes, I see vacancy.

[@E_Dtl]

"when I look into Putins eyes, I got a lovin' feeling" D. Trump

[@Trollzrfunni]

@@valkimura1053 Botzzzz for borscht are chirping

[@powerboon2k]

John McCain was many things but a good man? Jury is still out on that one.

[@joaneskins6510]

Dear Mr. Putins : Tank you for being the single Best RECRUITER for NATO/OTAN with once neutral Finland and Sweden signing up and soon joining NATO/OTAN and hopefully Ukraine will soon follow suit. We would also like to tank you for being the single best ARMs & Munitions provider to Ukraine. Again tanks a million cause we couldn't have done it without you. Sincerely yours, the FREE & Independent and Sovereign people of Ukraine!

[@valkimura1053]

Tank you--Freudian slip.

[@PenneySounds]

Also just sent a massive wave of educated professionals to all bordering countries. Imagine how the economies of places like Georgia and Kazakhstan will grow with all these doctors and engineers moving there

[@fricob.4828]

@@PenneySounds very true

[@alexpearson8481]

God, you guys are drinking the wests Kool-Aid.

[@julianciahaconsulting8663]

you want a nuclear war do you? If american nukes go into a NATO Ukraine then you will get one - what do you think this war is about anyways?

[@555T22]

Matthew 12:25 "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand."

[@CrypticNight]

Instead of fleeing they should be trying to over throw him

[@rooster1012]

They have no weapons and Putin literally has an army that will mow them down like cattle, remember they have no rights to keep and bear arms.

[@davidlanceescandor1310]

Putin still has a control of the most guns, so any dissent is either beaten down or shot down.

[@baddapplesauce]

Exactly! Or they should be going over to help Ukraine defeat him.

[@DoctorDeath147]

Easy for you to say. Even Russia's elites are getting thrown off windows.

[@dayangmarikit6860]

How are they supposed to organize?

[@E_Dtl]

At the same time teenagers in Iran are risking their lives protesting another regime.

[@viconichol]

So? They lives in that regime since 1979. Seems like they didn't rush.

[@hughmanatee5096]

Yeah, religion and government doesn't work. Thank gawd that the U.S. remains a secular nation even though the Republicans are trying to make it into a Christian nation.

[@E_Dtl]

@@viconichol teenagers from 79?

[@pokey5736]

Kudos to them !

[@vercoda9997]

Apples and oranges. You're ignoring that there's widespread public opposition in Iran - brave Iranians are clearly sick to back teeth of how fucked up their society is, which is why there's cross-societal protests going on, not just teenagers. It's a different people, culture, outlook - not directly comparable.

[@callummcmac4079]

Good job, that's what they need to be doing, they need to do whatever they can to tell Putin that this shouldn't escalate further.

[@hachi4691]

My father was drafted by military police to Yugoslavia's civil war 3 times. We as a family suffered a lot since 90's. And yet, everywhere I go around the world they point a finger at me, full of hatred. Everyone, since forever, that I am the aggressor and murderer, even because civil war happened when i was born and i spent my childhood in poverty and hunger in shelters affected by constant NATO raids on the civilian targets in order to press the army to retreat. My country as well suffered much. I know many people who never wanted to be part of the war, and then their village got burned down and family tortured and slaughtered by yesterdays neighbours, that made them animals who have nothing to lose and went on revenge campain to do as much horrific things as they can to "the enemy civilians" so the other side would know the pain. War is horrific, should never be glorified, destroys life for decades in countries. I grew up the way I wish no other kid in the world grow up, no matter skin color, ethnicity, religion or belief. Americans are really spoiled nation, they find way to divide among themselves, being ungratefull for the world suffering in order to provide for their lifestyle and freedom, unaware that their government in order for them to do have that "freedom" is enslaving the rest of the world. To all good people of this world - PLEASE do not seek war. I survived not 1 but 3 wars. I've seen lies of ALL media, not western or eastern. And NEVER condemn the nation. People are more imprisoned in the rest of the world than you can EVER imagine.

[@caroline4323]

You have been through stuff many people can´t even imagine. Honestly? I am Czech, I was following what was going on in Yugoslavia when it was happening, I felt horrified and I was angry that none of the transnational organizations did interfere... But as you say it was a civil war and it was difficult. Yes, Americans did interfere in the end, it was faulty, but what I felt back then was "too late". Not " too faulty" but too late.... Can you imagine that NATo and US would have stopped the madness earlier? It was a legit horror, whole villages being murdered... Yugoslavia had many major minority islands within the majority "states" and many old grievances... I understand you are a Serbian from what you write...

[@marksnyder8022]

These emigrees seem to be largely composed of the best and brightest of contemporary Russia. If there is one thing Russia doesn't need , it's a serious brain drain. Happy birthday Vlad.

[@arlenesecrist354]

Perhaps we can use them in Florida , there seems a serious brain drain there .

[@chunxxxxter]

Meanwhile back at //Huntington Beach back in the day!

[@rebeccaaldrich3396]

😂 right!

[@erikpeterson25]

Left behind the one without brains that is the cause of it

[@automnejoy5308]

​@@arlenesecrist354 That's because Florida is a swampy dick that gets washed out every other year in a hurricane. No one should be living there.

[@movieklump]

With a terrible demographic problem the worst thing for Russia is seeing young people leave. They should replace Vladimir the Dwarf with a garden gnome. They look similar but the gnome would make better decisions.

[@fromgermany271]

The fact that he *is* a garden gnome is the root cause for all the „special issues“.

[@Purepiscestarot]

May they reach their destinations safely 🙏

[@heyitstrash4681]

Final destination? 😂

[@Kashadooo]

First russians kept quiet IN PROTEST of the war. Now they're silently fleeing russia IN PROTEST of mobilization. Truly a heroic nation 10/10 would befriend again 👍

[@amyrosenold-music-healing-yoga]

These poor people. Blessed be the peacemakers. May they be safe and find a positive way forward.

[@deepseaserenity5552]

Most of these "poor" people are not against war or Ukraine occupation, they do not want to be drafted.

[@julianciahaconsulting8663]

& where are the "peacemakers" during this war? Seems to me that every Western power from the word "go" has been right into supporting this war and profiting from it by sending weapons to the Ukraine to prolong the war! I havent seen Biden do anything to hold peace talks just send more billions of US taxpayer dollars into the black hole of money laundering that is Kiev Ukraine

[@illidan155]

@@deepseaserenity5552 well noticed, they have been watching peaceful ukrainians getting bombed, killed and tortured for 7 months and didnt even care about it. now their own lives are in danger and they run away.... says a lot about their motivation.

[@AL-mc9ht]

@@deepseaserenity5552 orcs are orcs

[@ometerebalogun9603]

Amen.

[@snoozy04]

Reminds me of US Vietnam Draft

[@kalbs89]

Some left but most stayed and protested during Vietnam

[@rockhard9369]

They stay and protested, that why US pulled out of vietnam.

[@luisvelez5695]

Yes the cowards found some way out .

[@luisvelez5695]

@@rockhard9369 There were race riots drug use and murders of officers is why we pulled out .

[@deborahfreedman333]

@@rockhard9369 Is that what the books say? Because mostly guys, who could afford to, went to college. Most of the protesters were already getting a student deferment, and were not at risk of the draft. And many more young men fled, than protested. Those who could not afford college, or weren't smart enough to get in, went to Canada and South America, and only returned after the war was over. One guy told me of living on the streets in Chile, raiding the trash cans of restaurants for food.

[@alukuhito]

Russia's got their own Vietnam.

[@meeeka]

They had one in Afghanistan. One nation breaking defeat is usually enough.

[@chillvibed]

Second. They had one already

[@chinavirus841]

@@chillvibed USA has a third one coming

[@timmcpherson9632]

More like 🇷🇺 NEVER learned anything (during the Soviet era) from its failed invasion and 10 years presence in 🇦🇫.

[@derricklafrance9440]

Recruit: but I've got Bone Spurs. Recruiter: WTF is a Bone Spur?

[@ZekeThePlumber86]

I salute these men for not wanting to fight this losing battle!

[@chinavirus841]

Found the man who’d run away to Canada

[@triumphjunkie3792]

Losing battle..lmao....Russia could take the whole of Ukraine on their lunch break...this is pure propaganda

[@ZekeThePlumber86]

@@triumphjunkie3792 Are you out of your mind? Russia has shown the world how weak they are. It's ridiculous. It's being going on for months and months. By my estimate, that's a tad longer than a "lunch break". Keep riding the coattail of your dictator. I support the Russian citizens who rebuke this war. I'm not worried about the Russian propaganda puppets like you.

[@geodude7116]

@@triumphjunkie3792 why haven’t they done so yet then? Such a failure.

[@jamesaritchie1]

I'm sure you do. That tells me you know nothing about war, nothing at ALL about Ukraine, and think cowardice is just fine. Yep, only fight for your country if you know you will win, and won't get killed.

[@marymiah7164]

If I was a young Russian I’d leave too. I have so much respect for these morally right young Russians. 👏👍 ❤️

[@Christiangjf]

But they're only fleeing because of the draft, otherwise they would jut stay quiet and keep on living their lives like nothing is happening.

[@ИванЛарзалев]

@@Christiangjf So what? Are you saying you would not do the same thing?

[@DavidGonzalez-lu8jz]

That sucks!! I truly feel sad for all men and their families

[@intenseninja82]

They don't need sympathy, they need support.

[@andrewkenny4633]

@@intenseninja82 I don't have any sympathy for them most were in favour of the war when they thought Russia was going to win now they may have to fight they run away. The big question is how many of them are sleepers being placed all over Europe and maby that is why Putin has not closed the borders on the Russian side

[@ritaplantamura6027]

The real Hero's! Save yourself for your families who need you.

[@perrywhite3955]

Absolutely

[@maydixon-yuras9927]

They are not heroes at all. Don’t misuse that word so freely.

[@coleengoodell7523]

Now putin is fighting a war on two fronts. One at home and another in Ukraine. It appears as if he is losing on both fronts.

[@jacksonstephen5967]

I'm Stephen from Missouri and you

[@aaron6178]

These intelligent young Russians are heros in their own way. It takes enormous courage to do what they're doing. Bravo to them for not mindlessly wandering around doing Putin's dark bidding.

[@julianciahaconsulting8663]

you are doing the CIA's dark bidding by thinking like that

[@illidan155]

@@julianciahaconsulting8663 why is he doing cia's dark bidding ?

[@AL-mc9ht]

Yeah brave heroes flee the country but stand by genocide 😂… have a seat.

[@netiturtle]

It doesn't take any courage to flee, even if its much better than becoming Putin's cannon fodder. Courage would be going on protests, if those hundreds of thousands fleeing would instead go to streets, it would spark the rest of the passives. There would be a change of regime.

[@tomlxyz]

Idk, highly educated people don't risk that much, they find a job easily.

[@SaanichtonMinistries]

Pray for peace and calm. These events are extremely disturbing and dangerous

[@velosiped135]

Not going to do much good if the governments involved aren't even negotiating for peace.

[@AL-mc9ht]

There is no peace being negotiated. It’s let us control your territory or else…

[@eunicep.b166]

I pray for all Russia stay safe from their government to help this war and keep keep peace between Russia 🇷🇺 and Ukraine 🇺🇦 and hopefully this can end the war 🙏 😢 😞 💔🥺🙌

[@brucec954]

Talk about crashing the economy - if large numbers of men leave the country or even just quit going to work so they don't get rounded up.

[@genericscout5408]

The impact could help the job market if there is now massive demand to fill positions. The jobs that are left behind will favor the domestic side heavily now. Of course with mass conscription those jobs will open up for women.

[@omarmenciazuma2567]

In order to avoid

[@fromgermany271]

@@genericscout5408 Oh, now I see clear why Hitler started WW2. He just wanted to let women build guns and planes. He should get more acknowledgment from feminists. You are just talking utter BS.

[@the_real_glabnurb]

​@@genericscout5408 Yes, it's a godsend for the Russian economy. You are a genius, you could become Russia's new minister for economic development.

[@the_real_glabnurb]

@@genericscout5408 Tbf, you are not wrong, if demand (for jobs) is high and supply (people) is low then salaries should rise. The only problem is, now the people also have to pay higher prices for goods and services, so also their salaries should rise... But if the salaries of the customers rise then the incentive for the high in demand jobs is less, so these salaries have to be raised again, etc... This just creates hyperinflation.

[@robertwest7197]

My hope these men where received well. These two me are a rare bread brave and strong examples of exceptional men worthy of a warm welcome.

[@origamichik3n]

You are mistaking cowards, who were perfectly fine with russian atrocities in Ukraine until it didn't personally affect them, with really brave ones that are actually protesting on the streets of russia even when they know for sure that they will be imprisoned. I have no doubt in my mind that at least some of these Sir Robins were "brave" anti-Ukrainian internet trolls as well. Only when the chance to put their money where their mouth is became a certainty, they "came to their senses" and fled. They deserve no sympathy.

[@claire2470]

...same hope and wish. . . that other nations will welcome them warmly... .

[@netiturtle]

I don't understand how do many are calling them 'brave' or 'incredibly courageous'. They approved the invasion, as long as they could watch it from TV. Putin's ratings went sky high when he invaded Ukraine. What's happening now is (mostly, there are obviously exceptions) same people leaving the country to avoid danger to themselves

[@LickyDischarge]

Draft dodgers seems a harsh term, when they’re doing the right thing.

[@-_XD]

Draft dodgers should only be used for the hypocrites who supported Putin before getting drafted, and only tried to dodge it when their names are called.

[@heekyungkim8147]

I feel sympathetic for these young man… stay safe.

[@heyitstrash4681]

Awww love you mother Teresa Johnny with sins will try to be a good kid.

[@marktwain5232]

I was friends with the late Russian Writer Vladislav Tamarov who wrote "Afghanistan: Soviet Vietnam". He passed in December 2014 in Las Vegas, Nevada. He used to stay with me many times in his travels in the U.S. in the mid 1990's. War changes a country in the soldiers who bear it forever in their Souls no matter whether you "win" or "lose". He was a troubled, haunted man scarred for life. Looks like his country never paid any attention to him and learned absolutely nothing. May he Rest-In-Peace. "He was holding his right leg, but the blood soaked through his fingers and flowed over his hand onto his sleeve. Intuition had served me again this time: my kick had knocked his automatic out of his grasp a fraction of a second before he could press the trigger. The second kick was to his face. It sent him flying about six feet. I set my sights on his head, but something stopped me, one of our guys let out a yelp behind me. Another bullet whistled by right next to me. Apparently, this Mujahadeen was not the only one here. Again, I aimed at his head, but something again stopped me. I saw how his hands were trembling. I noticed the horror in his eyes. “He is only a boy!” I thought and pressed the trigger.” - The late Vladislav Tamarov (1965-2014) "Afghanistan: Soviet Vietnam". Looks like Putin himself in his small withered Soul conveniently avoided military service in the Soviet-Afghan War in the 1980's and, therefore, personally learned absolutely nothing about the devastating human spiritual costs of war. So it goes. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Nobody ever learning anything generation after generation.

[@ernstraedecker6174]

Very good comment. Thank you.

[@christinemarshall1366]

Thanks for taking the time to post this. The last paragraph almost made me cry.

[@gauloiseguy]

Well written. Thank you for your recollection and the excerpt of your friends writing. With the of chance my comparison is generic, another famous dictator with a small moustache did serve. Quite bravely even. While waging a brutal war he always shied away from using his chemical weapons because of the horrors he experienced himself (this can't be stated as a fact of course but it's reported by the people that knew him). A man like Putin must have seen violence. I don't know if he experienced it. It may be he's not held back by anything within his own emotional framework.

[@marktwain5232]

@@christinemarshall1366 Thank you. I tried to reply to you at length in good faith but it was deleted by some kind of unfathomable moderation?

[@kierenmoore3236]

Colonel Trautman : You expect sympathy? You started this damn war! Now you'll have to deal with it! Zaysen : And we will. It is just a matter of time before we achieve a complete victory. Colonel Trautman : Yeah, well, there won't be a victory! Every day, your war machines lose ground to a bunch of POORLY-armed, POORLY-equipped freedom fighters! The fact is that you underestimated your competition. If you'd studied your history, you'd know that these people have never given up to anyone. They'd rather DIE, than be slaves to an invading army. You can't defeat a people like that. We tried! We already had our Vietnam! Now you're gonna have yours!

[@PokeRetroFan]

Let me just say 200000 is a lot of brave men who do not want to be a part of this madman's war

[@tarrasacid1612]

But not brave enough to stand up to the mad man.

[@asddsa28]

@@tarrasacid1612 yeah they dont want to do the hard fighting on ether side. they dont want to standup to there government and from that relationship the government took power from them.

[@QueenCallisto]

@@tarrasacid1612 Of course not. They would be sent to jail for fifteen years for protesting (spreading fake news of the war). What good would that do?

[@tarrasacid1612]

@@QueenCallisto you know the Ukrainians stood up for their rights in 2013/2014 and took their country back from a despot.

[@user-ko5ul7yi1x]

@@tatyanafadden2005 Would any of their sane women and kids wish for them to become criminals? To die or get back home as criminals?

[@donnewton7858]

It's amazing to me how many Europeans can speak fluent English, when my own countrymen cannot.

[@julianciahaconsulting8663]

especially your dementia case of a president Biden

[@erinh9267]

Perhaps you're lucky enough to live in a country that both welcomes many new immigrants (great for economy) and is also tolerant of your either xenophobic or pedantic-about-grammar butt. *Sips ☕ Edit:if I hurt you, I genuinely apologize. I'm feeling uninhibited and have less diplomacy going right now, and that's on me

[@mikaellindroos1594]

Civilisation.

[@benjauron5873]

Me fail English? That unpossible!

[@catalinacurio]

People who learn English learn without slang and by using proper diction same as we do when learning a new language. America and the UK are relatively lazy at learning languages which is a shame because the younger we start the easier it is.

[@willis9637]

There is an age old saying; FOR EVIL TO PREVAIL IT ONLY TAKES GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING

[@j9670]

Eternal glory to those who stand up against tyranny!💕 Let's continue to give President Zelenskyy & Ukraine all the weapons & support it needs! All Free People Are Ukrainian! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

[@libertyblueskyes2564]

thank god the young men came to their senses instead of being fodder of the Authoritarian government

[@heyguys4571]

Here is the recommended clip that say it :- kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5OrcpSNrqt2sJY !!

[@uriituw]

Thank who?

[@hughmanatee5096]

Between 1965 and 1974 Canada accepted about 250,000 immigrants from the U.S., many of them refusing to be drafter to fight in the American invasion of Vietnam.

[@srlnee6445]

Correct but what you don't know is Canada executed all of them.

[@TheIfifi]

Ten years vs 2 weeks. Really goes to show

[@valkimura1053]

Sadly, now they are trapped in a dictatorship.

[@1202burton]

Draft evaders See also: Draft evasion en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_resisters_in_Canada Estimates vary greatly as to how many Americans immigrated to Canada for the specific reason of evading conscription, as opposed to desertion, or other reasons. Canadian immigration statistics show that 20,000 to 30,000 draft-eligible American men came to Canada as immigrants during the Vietnam era. The BBC stated that "as many as 60,000 young American men dodged the draft."[25] Estimates of the total number of American citizens who moved to Canada due to their opposition to the war range from 50,000 to 125,000[26] This exodus was "the largest politically motivated migration from the United States since the United Empire Loyalists moved north to oppose the American Revolution."[2 So, just take the numbers "facts" and multiply it by 2, so as to not make the Russia draft dodgers look so bad.. 125,000 in 9 years compared to 350,000 "some estimates are as high as 650,000" in 1 month=same thing gtfoh

[@planestrainsdogsncars4336]

AND then North Vietnam won the war ..what does that tell you about the current situation?

[@donm3844]

This is no different then citizens in the USA fleeing for Canada and Mexico during the Vietnam war , Russia already has the 300,000 troops needed ,so no reason to flee now

[@olajumokeemmanuel3505]

I don't blame them! Glory to the Ukrainians

[@malahammer]

And these Russians

[@Trollzrfunni]

@Kyle Kyle Lmaoooooo Pederazzzzzz overload

[@Trollzrfunni]

@@malahammer Lmaoooooo Botzzzz for borscht

[@scotty_yata]

Fleeing the draft should be commended. Takes a lot of balls, to be honest.

[@erinh9267]

Human courage has nothing to do with male gonads

[@priscillaroberts7945]

Like Trump ? Though tbf he couldn't run on those pesky heel spurs. Lol.

[@emmaleary3767]

Massive balls

[@emmaleary3767]

@@erinh9267 its just a thing that we say..Spanish say that expression too

[@maydixon-yuras9927]

@@erinh9267 Yes it does. For the most part, men are far braver than women. Going back to truly ancient times this has been a fact.

[@NairuOnLife]

Imagine russian businesses would want to setup satellite workspaces in other countries to prevent their workforce from being taken from them and shipped to Ukraine, too. Less about the selfless nature of management and more about the preservation of the business, itself, but i'm sure its a mix at the end of the day. Mobilization is going to cripple their economy internally in this respect as countries impose external pressures, too.

[@anitagorse9204]

20+ % of IT workforce left. They can work from anywhere, are probably familiar with English, use VPN to access foreign media. This alone should ring gov alarm bells!

[@tomlxyz]

Why shouldn't businesses leave whole instead? I wouldn't want to be a guy in Russia still who sent his employees outside

[@neutronalchemist3241]

Infact. With an Internet connection, those people can still be productive. In Ukraine, they are useless.

[@zendakk]

Either way, these businesses are still willingly paying taxes into the pockets a war criminal. This whole fairy tale of The Enlightened Russian is absurd. I wonder how many of the draft dodgers never minded the invasion in the first place but started shitting their pants at the prospect of actually joining.

[@dsouza4746]

I live in Portugal and some of the young men are finding their way here. We are generally friendly with all refugees here but to be honest Russians don’t have the best reputation here. I hope these people can safely return home soon and that those here get help that they need.

[@TheGreenVeterans]

Millions are evacuating Russia without a single tank invading. Too funny!

[@untouchable360x]

Not fleeing. It's a "special military emigration."

[@jasontroy3911]

Such a huge tragedy the effects of this war is affecting millions of people and the consequences will echo for generations

[@mst7155]

Respect and glory to Kazakhstan!!!!!!!

[@LeahandBlair]

Why call them "DRAFT DODGERS" more like sensible citizens! 🤙Why fight a war they DON'T believe in! Good on them, ANTI War Heroes!!!! ❤️

[@loufrost824]

Wake up. They didn't have a problem with the war until the mobilisation made it their problem.

[@jacksonstephen5967]

I'm Stephen from Missouri and you

[@maydixon-yuras9927]

They are admirable, but they are not heroes at all. Don’t misuse that word so freely.

[@traviswilliams9225]

Russia's brain drain will be legendary 🤣

[@jordanwilliams2557]

Imagine how they much they miss Mikhail now

[@captainscarlett1]

Twice during WW1 referenda were held in Australia to conscript soldiers and twice it was rejected, most strongly by serving soldiers. We have always taken individual liberty seriously even without a Bill of Rights etc..

[@redrick8900]

Maybe that's why the US had to defend your country in WWII.

[@rskb1957]

@@redrick8900 No, that would because Australian forces were siphoned off by Britain to for it's failed defense of Singapore. Large numbers of Australian soldiers were captured there and interned in Japanese POW camps and died on the Burma railway. Then too, Australian troops were sent off by the British to fight in North Africa. Some highly for the 'benefits' of the British Empire. It is one of the reasons there was so much discussion in Australia after the Queen's death whether it was time to become a Republic and another why Australia was never going to be Britain's 'white knight' after Brexit. There is actually quite a lot of Anti-British sentiment in Australia. To an outsider, as I suspect you are from your post, it might look like Australia waited for the US to protect it during WW2 and it is true that US support was invaluable, but from an Australian perspective it had been abandoned to its fate by Britain. Also remember that the population at the time was only 7 million, around half of whom were of Irish descent and therefore not inclined to be sentimental over links to Britain, and it was resource rich.

[@snieves4]

@@redrick8900 maybe you should go outside the us centric history books and actually do some research the fighting the Aussies did in the southeast asian/south west pacific region…

[@richardjackson6056]

Except for those who were conscripted during Vietnam and Korea.

[@redrick8900]

@@rskb1957 False, the Australian military in WII was so anemic an ill equipped that it wasn't capable of defending your coast, so the US had to do it for you. You're welcome.

[@wanajday]

Russian fleeing mobilisation: “I am at the same time a refugee and the aggressor”.

[@andrisk2703]

How can those who never participated or agreed with aggression be aggressors? It's a weird world you live in.

[@Christiangjf]

@@andrisk2703 because they elected Putin 4 times?

[@andrisk2703]

@@Christiangjf Every single one of them elected Putin?

[@wanajday]

@@andrisk2703 Dear Andris, I was simply highlighting a pitiful statement by a man who is indeed a refugee because he chose not to fight in this unjust war. He said he was an aggressor, presumably because his countrymen invaded Ukraine. I feel for every Russian refugee, but I feel for Ukrainians more because civilians have been killed and homelands destroyed by the aggressors. If more Russians stood up and said no to this unjust war, then there would be no need for 700, 000 Russian refugees and Ukraine could go on living in peace.

[@Christiangjf]

@@andrisk2703 I didn't say that, but you asked "how cAn sOmEoNe wHo hAS nEVeR..." that's how.

[@breadbasket2512]

WHY DO YOU CALL THEM "DRAFT DODGERS" (negative connotation) AND NOT DRAFT RESISTERS?????

[@ychuen5753]

I feel so bad for the people who fled Russia so they don't have to be forced to fight a war they don't agree, I hope they are treated fairly and not stigmatized for their nationality. Putin will pay for his crimes and I hope soon.

[@julianciahaconsulting8663]

has the USA paid for its crimes in Iraq and Syria and Vietnam and Central and South America? Nope

[@catalinacurio]

Don’t feel bad for them, they are going to be safe. There are Russians who have set up their own channels and making large money from advertising on them and from donations. Feel bad for those forced to fight and the Ukrainians they murder. Peace to us all. 🌸

[@vinnielalumia]

Being ignorant on purpose is still ignorant

[@johnlopez1604]

Forceful draft especially only men should be banned, it’s a sex discrimination, just because of your gender you’re forced to lose your limbs and life, while the able bodied women sleep in comfort.

[@KabobHope]

Those fleeing are the elite who can flee. The ones that don't have means or do have ties are stuck.

[@Doomzdayisgone1969]

And leave the rest of the world to deal with Putin.

[@lermatelpimen-Sing-Travel11]

We live only once if I'm in the same situation and capable its a wise decisions.RIP to all civilians and soldiers who died .Greetings from ate erms travel .God bless to All.

[@normandothegreat]

Those refusing to fight an unjustified war are heroes in the free worlds eyes and hearts! 👍

[@maydixon-yuras9927]

They are admirable, but definitely not heroes at all. Don’t misuse that word so freely. True heroes are people like firefighters, paramedics, vigilantes etc who put their lives on the line to do righteous, philanthropic actions. Those are the real saints.

[@normandothegreat]

@@maydixon-yuras9927 "A person who is admired or idealized for courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities." People have different definitions of what a hero is, this is extremely close to what I was taught. I do agree that those people you mention do qualify for the title, however I do not feel that it is only reserved for them.

[@saratemp790]

I think it's good that young freedom loving Russians can gather in other countries and freely mix with each other. Maybe then they will realize the strength they have. And then bring that knowledge back to Russia, to help them organize for real democracy.

[@jacksonstephen5967]

I'm Stephen from Missouri and you

[@maeva7949]

I'm afraid it's wishful thinking. the neighbouring country Estonia has a large diaspora of russians who have lived there since the fall on USSR. They overwhelmingly have always voted for putin. In 2007 they organized a riot in the capital - looting shops, flying russian flags and calling for putin to invade because - as they were shouting - "everything is ours", i.e belongs to russia. It's near impossible to cahnge their imperialistic mindset.

[@MrRavern08]

I'm proud of Ukraine 🇺🇦 soldiers for their bravery, I knew they will fight back and push the Russian army at the beginning of the war. But treat all Russian prisoners humane way,their involvement in this war of destruction is not their fate, they also have parents who are worried,give them proper burial and inform their parents or next of kin. I would greatly appreciate the goodwill of Ukrainian people. God will be with you till, all lands are conquered. Viva Ukraine.

[@firstnamerequiredlastnameo3473]

Study why NATO's Article 53 says Russia's defensive first strike is LEGAL.

[@curtiseverett1671]

hahahaha wouldn't it be funny if ALL of the russian troops quit, and the only one left to fight was putin??? hahahahahaha

[@jinnbuster4753]

To call the orcs scum is an insult to scum. Glory to Ukraine!🇺🇦

[@1topbaron559]

What is Putin going to do to the families of these men. Hate to think of it.

[@vvniverse]

Nothing

[@JohnnyD-u7]

🇺🇸✌🏻🇺🇦 𝓥𝓲𝓬𝓽𝓸𝓻𝔂 𝓽𝓸 𝓤𝓴𝓻𝓪𝓲𝓷𝓮 !!!

[@pokey5736]

Ukraine Strong !!!!💙💛💙💛

[@julianciahaconsulting8663]

you like nazis do you?

[@listhomas4877]

Sad! My ❤ goes out to all

[@heyitstrash4681]

Any room for sex? 🤣

[@jdanon203]

Sad. People should not have to leave their homes because of one man's crazy ego.

[@tommygprice7585]

Speaks volumes when your citerzens leave. Wish them all safe

[@smitajky]

This reminds me of the numbers of men who abandoned the USA and went to Canada to escape the draft to fight against Vietnam. Where the Vietnamese were trying to resist a new attempt at foreign imperialistic domination. But we all have very short memories.

[@julianciahaconsulting8663]

especially americans.

[@centralpete6044]

I recall as well that during mobilization for the first Gulf War there were numerous active military and reservists who “came out” against the military action and refused to honor their oath to serve. These deserters of sorts expected bouquets for their anti-war stance but the court of public opinion judged them to be self-serving frauds who just wanted all the benefits gained from service without having to pony up when things got hot. In the end Leavenworth and a dishonorable discharge were all that was gained in defiance of a short, popular war.

[@ikeswp4959]

Hippies /beta males what makes you bring that up ?

[@Pizza793]

Another pointless war. Evil leaders forcing men to go slaughter rice farmers. Ooo, gotta stop communism, right? Well usa lost and communists took overs the whole vietnam, and what did that do? Nothing! Vietnam is a tourist attraction now! The whole war was pointless!

[@aleksilepisto7282]

The mistake is, it wasn't a fight against Vietnam. It just took place in Vietnam, but it was still very much a war against the Soviets and communism. It ideologically split the country and destroyed most of it, and involved many neighbors who just wanted to take advantage of the situation. Like most proxy wars.

[@jennyperpa5302]

I hope these people are accepted and cared for. They deserve the utmost respect for refusing to aid Putin's madness.

[@Beaverhau3en5677]

Did he just call himself a refugee??? That's a sick joke. NO Russian leaving is a refugee. What a disgusting thing to say. How dare he.

[@199compound]

This is the problem with leaders that live like kings and not servants, they are trapped in a castle looking down on a kingdom. A true leader walks among his people. Today's leaders are out of touch with reality.

[@Mujcanal]

Well said ! That small gremlin is a coward not a leader

[@mosquitoinyourears8930]

Who wants to walk into a meat grinder?

[@maydixon-yuras9927]

It’s not a “meat grinder” you edge child. This is why you have no friends… Get some help.

[@dannymartinez3600]

Kind of hard all around. Young Russian men giving up their homes and families in a foreign country. And I would think it’s hard for these Kazakstan border towns who are now having to deal with this many people in this short amount of time. I suspect there might be some small resentment among some of the 18-30 year olds who might see them as competition in certain aspects. All because of a midget with delusions of grandeur trying to resurrect a failed empire. Lots of respect for these counties allowing this influx and seemingly treating these people like humans.

[@planestrainsdogsncars4336]

I doubt they will be staying around border towns...

[@chinavirus841]

Ukraine lost keep crying ;)

[@xizilionyizzexeliqer3897]

men with resentment beginning to sound like the english

[@dannymartinez3600]

@@chinavirus841 you’re either trying to convince yourself that this is true or you’re dumb enough to believe Russia is winning after donating tons of equipment to Ukraine. If you actually want to look into you can see Russia literary has to change the control lines to show Ukraine process on their own propaganda TV and admit they’re army is a paper tiger. But if you think Russia is winning you don’t have high regard for facts or reality.

[@dannymartinez3600]

@@xizilionyizzexeliqer3897 I mean, I’m just trying to look at it from wider perspectives. I could be wrong, maybe all the Kazakhstan are welcoming Russians with open arms. But looking at it through the lens of my country, particularly after our last president, you would have people looking to elevate their status by feeding resentment and fomenting hate. It’s red meat for the base.

[@mytorment]

Better they leave now than abandoning people on the battle field

[@Sephiroth144]

Fleeing in protest- or in fear? Cuz they didn't leave until THEY might be directly affected. Seriously, I would love a breakdown of the escapees and their social media from the last seven months, i.e., how many were in favor of this war... until they might be forced to participate.

[@bandit3825]

Plus the santions.

[@Sephiroth144]

@@bandit3825 Maybe- but the sanctions have been going on for a while, and the mass border wave began once the call up was announced. Not sure (possible) additional sanctions would really inspire that much of an exodus.

[@bandit3825]

@@Sephiroth144 Just a fine opportunity to get out of Russia ...But they are still Russians !! face there sh54 Like Ukraians are

[@abocas]

While I understand these young men/people are fleeing I am also thinking who will stop Putin? .... if not done from within?

[@andrisk2703]

A palace coup?

[@arvinr.912]

Protesters are immediately drafted and sent to the battlefield. Can you imagine if US did that? They'd easily fill up their qouta of cannon fodders with all the derange woke crap that's gonna be taken.