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Rusty Buckets

Rusty Buckets

2 жыл бұрын

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@rustybuckets
@rustybuckets 2 жыл бұрын
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@starfishandroid
@starfishandroid 2 жыл бұрын
U NEED TO DEEP DIVE INTO A SHOWER. U NEVER TALK ABOUT MIAMI. WE GON RUN YOU BULLS TONIGHT. AGAIN.
@urieldiaz2361
@urieldiaz2361 2 жыл бұрын
I think Kenny said it best sometimes it’s just more than basketball he’s built a family in Portland he’s grown up there just the same as others around the league it’s not always about basketball and money
@sac1211
@sac1211 2 жыл бұрын
Then why even play? Dame is an idiot who just wants to look cool and get points for being loyal. Now he will be irrelevant for years to come who cares if you're looked at as a "ring chaser" leave these trash franchises when they dont surround you with the talent you deserve
@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz4676
@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz4676 2 жыл бұрын
@@sac1211 because he loves the game of basketball, the city of Portland and makes hundreds of millions of dollars 🤔 maybe he is more concerned about having a happy life in a city he loves than what people will think about him in 50 years
@patrickgreene20
@patrickgreene20 2 жыл бұрын
@@sac1211 did you even read the comment
@Gymantis
@Gymantis 2 жыл бұрын
@@sac1211 Imagine a bum on KZbin calling you an idiot while you're make $200m+ 😂😂😂
@shaquanreaves3221
@shaquanreaves3221 2 жыл бұрын
@@sac1211 Quit being a clown.
@eastsidereviews727
@eastsidereviews727 2 жыл бұрын
Loyalty in sports so often is a one way street and we've seen players get straight up lied to by teams after giving everything to them. The day my perspective on this changed is the day the Pistons traded Chauncey Billups to Denver for Allen Iverson. I love A.I. ad a player, but Chauncey lead my Pistons to a chip, made himself a valued player, and gave us everything he had, but in the end he got traded. I never knock players for putting themselves first, because the team will all put the team over the player and us fans are so fickle with how we feel.
@blastoiseddr
@blastoiseddr 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, franchises are just another employer to these players and players shouldn't give them 'loyalty' unless it goes both ways.
@hanschristopherson8056
@hanschristopherson8056 2 жыл бұрын
Unless your a superstar future hof guy who’s been somewhere 10+ years then franchise might be loyal to you
@brianngure151
@brianngure151 2 жыл бұрын
​@@blastoiseddr i feel that's the problem, the player thinks it's both ways and the team even acts that way until something better comes. I always felt bad for the way the celtics did IT. I understood how it made us better but IT single-handedly made our transition from the big three to selling to a title contender
@DaynNight1234
@DaynNight1234 2 жыл бұрын
The day I gave up on loyalty was when Vince Carter left the Raptors. He did so much for Toronto the city itself and when he leaves they treated him like absolute shit. I also felt hurt that LeBron left Miami for obvious reasons but more hurt when Wade left cause I thought he was gonna leave forever for the Bulls or Cavs whatever team he went too and that's only because I enjoyed the duo of both of them and especially loved Wade considering he was one of my favorite players of the league and same with Vince. The only problem I had with Bron leaving is that he was going back to the city that had treated him like Vince Carter when he left the Raptors especially when that team was wasting his career in my opinion.
@eastsidereviews727
@eastsidereviews727 2 жыл бұрын
@@hanschristopherson8056 even they some teams will dog you. Look at the Blake Griffin, Clippers situation. They did that whole song and dance with showing his number retired and everything, and then traded him.
@cjezinne
@cjezinne 2 жыл бұрын
20 years from now, we will all become the old heads telling the kids “Y’all don’t know who Damian Lillard is? 😔”
@ZCrimsonIX
@ZCrimsonIX 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I could definitely see this happening.
@HDRookie
@HDRookie 2 жыл бұрын
Luckily, you'll only have to show them 2 shots and they'll remember him as a legend. Not many players can say that
@thebrotherhood227
@thebrotherhood227 2 жыл бұрын
Nah those Dame Time winners means he’s going to live forever
@RyTheBasketballGuy
@RyTheBasketballGuy 2 жыл бұрын
69 likes… nice 😎
@gavinc.morrison1147
@gavinc.morrison1147 2 жыл бұрын
thats sad as fuck
@AsheSkye
@AsheSkye 2 жыл бұрын
You missed one major point here. A city becomes a home. Damian Liliard was drafted by Portland right out of college and has spent his entirely adult life in Portland. He bought a home there, got married and started a family in Portland. The same can be said for other players like Bradley Beal, Stephen Curry and Wade. Players like Kevin Durant, James Harden and Ben Simmons have not started a family and do not live in the city they play in outside of the season. They don't have the same attachment to the city. For many players, it is about what is doing right for their family, not their own personal accolades and legacy.
@thicybriky
@thicybriky Жыл бұрын
He said that lil bro lmaoooo
@michaelshan22
@michaelshan22 2 жыл бұрын
As a Lions fan, Damian Lillard’s loyalty to Portland feels so similar to Matthew Stafford’s in Detroit. They both carried their franchise for damn near a decade and have left a legacy behind them as loyal players to the city. No true Lions fan turned on Stafford for requesting a trade last season, and I doubt Blazers fans would for Dame either. Stafford managed to reach that ultimate goal of championship in just a year, and just about every Lions fan out there was happy for him.
@MarcusHansen276
@MarcusHansen276 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a bears fan. Loved Stafford his whole career. Always was mad that you guys had a franchise QB and wasted his career. I’m glad he won the chip this year.
@malica5706
@malica5706 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. From Michigan now live in southern ohio. Was happy to see Stanford win.
@grottyband8052
@grottyband8052 2 жыл бұрын
Lions fan here, Love him, love what he did for us, love what he’s doing now. Stafford will always be my qb
@Marshm3llow14
@Marshm3llow14 2 жыл бұрын
How many times did Detroit make the playoffs with Stafford? Twice? The Blazers have made it 8 times in a row the longest current streak these are not comparable situations
@MarcusHansen276
@MarcusHansen276 2 жыл бұрын
@@Marshm3llow14 being on a shit team in basketball is not the same as being on a shit team in football. That being said, they’re two really good players on teams where their Front offices have wasted every year of their career.
@jackmass4798
@jackmass4798 2 жыл бұрын
An underrated one is Lou Williams. He took less money when he was in all star conversation to stay with the Clips yet they traded him in a heartbeat.
@kid_named_a
@kid_named_a 2 жыл бұрын
they did trade him to his hometown in atlanta where he went to the ECF and is currently very happy to be there tho
@jackmass4798
@jackmass4798 2 жыл бұрын
@@kid_named_a But it's not because he asked to be traded tho. He said he was tired of switching teams all the time. That was the reason he resigned.
@kid_named_a
@kid_named_a 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackmass4798 he re-signed with the Hawks because he likes being there, not because he's tired of bouncing around. But yeah he didn't get traded because he wanted, but some orgs will move players to spots they'd prefer to repay their loyalty (CJ recently was only going to be traded to teams in good positions, for example)
@jackmass4798
@jackmass4798 2 жыл бұрын
@@kid_named_a I was talking about him resigning with the Clips. And orgs will only trade a certain player to their prefer destination only if they're a certain caliber.
@mramillio9647
@mramillio9647 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you never talked about giannis I think he's a good example of how loyalty does have positive aspects especially with a franchise that does respect giannis
@oseianderson4554
@oseianderson4554 2 жыл бұрын
One of the points behind the video is the loyalty from the franchise is conditional. If they think you're valuable then they will be loyal to you but if you're not then they'll do you dirty. From a business perspective this is understandable because at the end of the day the goal is to win games and make money. For Giannis and Milwaukee it worked out because they were competent enough to put him in a position to win.
@thewriter8762
@thewriter8762 2 жыл бұрын
@@oseianderson4554 exactly cuz some prime examples are Chauncey Billups when he got traded from the Pistons, Isiah Thomas after he played injured during a time his sister died while with the Celtics, and DeRozen when he got traded by the Raps for Kawhi. When teams see you as less than a generational talent, you are at their mercy. Cleveland burned a lot of Lebron’s youth, KG never got that second star next to him, D-Wade suffering first or second round exits for years after Shaq left, and even Kobe had hopeless years of carrying trash. It’s a business and stuff like loyalty isn’t always a virtue.
@vidalrodriguez2001
@vidalrodriguez2001 2 жыл бұрын
The Bucks org, even though I doubt any of the brass in Kareem’s time are even remotely involved in any decisions the current Bucks org makes, knew of the nightmare that was Kareem departing in his prime, and they were going to make Giannis feel damn near like royalty to show their loyalty to him, first through being a competent org that made sure he had a contending team around him, and through all that work, they have a ring now, and Giannis is there long term. He’s on track to become their franchise’s greatest player ever, so I’m sure their investment in him was worth it
@skywalker2759
@skywalker2759 2 жыл бұрын
He got lucky af to win that title last year and he’ll never win another playing for the bucks
@TyBrezzy11
@TyBrezzy11 2 жыл бұрын
@@skywalker2759 facts
@vidalrodriguez2001
@vidalrodriguez2001 2 жыл бұрын
There’s also the example of Dallas’ beloved “tall baller from the G”, Dirk Nowitzki. The man didn’t even fathom moving on from the Mavs, being the most successful player of our franchise in the process, BY FAR. The potential for him to have played with other players and teams to build on his winning legacy even more was there, but he didn’t even think about leaving, only way was retirement, and that level of loyalty was so rare and crazy to have. No wonder we love this dude as much as we do🥲🥲🥲
@coltondodd3086
@coltondodd3086 2 жыл бұрын
And he took a pay cut
@melanatedgod5337
@melanatedgod5337 2 жыл бұрын
I swear I fell in love with my Mavs because of Dirk!! He was loyal to the soil, and I loved it!!
@badgerstorm2188
@badgerstorm2188 2 жыл бұрын
If Dame stays with Portland his whole career, we’ll look at him in a similar way to Reggie Miller. I think even if he doesn’t win a ring he’s still a legend.
@lorenzokhan5792
@lorenzokhan5792 2 жыл бұрын
there will still be those who throw shade just because he doesn't have a ring unfortunately
@cjezinne
@cjezinne 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, more like Sidney Moncrief. 5 time all star. Baller of his day… but nothing really remarkable that stands the rest of time and brings him into conversations. Some young people may recognize the names but most casual won’t.
@sac1211
@sac1211 2 жыл бұрын
Nope he'll be irrelevant and eventually knocked out of the top players of all time you need rings to be relevant nowadays. If lebron never left Cleveland do you think he would be in the GOAT discussion right now? Nope.
@1vaultdweller
@1vaultdweller 2 жыл бұрын
Just because some dumb people say Reggie Miller is a legend, doesnt make Reggie Miller a legend. That guy only has 3 All-NBA Third Team appearances, just one finals appearance in 18 years and averaged 18-3-3 for career
@royalpalm_941
@royalpalm_941 2 жыл бұрын
@@lorenzokhan5792 and if he leaves and gets a ring there will be people who throw shade because he “ring chased”. If he stays but they bring in a bunch of stars to help him win some people are going to throw shade because he needed a stacked squad to win. There will always be a negative narrative available. Dame is just choosing which one he which one people can use on him
@BB-ud6gf
@BB-ud6gf 2 жыл бұрын
Underrated content. This shit is more creative and interesting than more than half of what other NBA KZbinrs are out here doing. Keep grinding Rusty !!😤😤
@chicoflakoreact245
@chicoflakoreact245 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@warwick802
@warwick802 2 жыл бұрын
I can tell he puts so much thought into these type of videos, especially the way he presents himself + the lighting. Def took long hours of editing. Hope this series returns
@ozzyramirez740
@ozzyramirez740 2 жыл бұрын
Right! Man my boy Rusty needs more respect 😤
@godimready2go
@godimready2go 2 жыл бұрын
Facts lmao you see bsolz just reacting to Stephen a clips like wth happened ☠️
@werderlebenslang4576
@werderlebenslang4576 2 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of fans want players to be loyal because the fans are loyal to their franchise. Many fans support one team for their whole life even if the team is trash and doesn't deserve that loyalty. The difference is that to players teams aren't just teams they are employers. Many fans don't think about teams as employers though and I think that's where the disconnect comes from.
@blastoiseddr
@blastoiseddr 2 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right. The franchises rely on fans being obsessed with 'loyalty' to take advantage of players. I'm glad that players are empowering themselves regardless of this and hope it continues.
@shawns.12
@shawns.12 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but now we are at the opposite extreme. Players have so much power now there isn't even a point to signing a contract lmao
@blastoiseddr
@blastoiseddr 2 жыл бұрын
@@shawns.12 good. Power to the people.
@lombardia1509
@lombardia1509 2 жыл бұрын
@@blastoiseddr it's not for people only for millionaires in NBA
@CasualTakeswithArchie
@CasualTakeswithArchie 2 жыл бұрын
A little disappointed dirk didn't get mentioned in the loyalty topic but really good deep dive overall
@eazye5072
@eazye5072 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree. Dirk was as loyal as it comes to Dallas. For better or worse. He got one of the most highly thought of rings ever and couldn't be any more loved by the city of Dallas.
@twizzy585ful
@twizzy585ful Жыл бұрын
Plus he wouldn't leave when Kobe was recording him
@edwardwalden05
@edwardwalden05 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you made this video. I hear so many ppl say “magic and bird didn’t join a superteam to win a ring”. That’s like saying jordan would never get on twitter in the middle of the season when there was no twitter in his era
@AJ_Ol
@AJ_Ol 2 жыл бұрын
Plus they didn’t go join a super team because they were already on one, as far as that era is concerned.
@maelysilouga5303
@maelysilouga5303 Жыл бұрын
Magic also asked to be traded but no one wants to remember that
@roxas5234
@roxas5234 2 жыл бұрын
dude, the RDR 2 comparison was INCREDIBLY ACCURATE, good job on that one
@genesiskun02
@genesiskun02 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Rusty, lemme just say, like mans, you're my favorite NBA youtuber. The nuances you present, and like how human you treat the people you talk about. And how you talk about life things in general, it's extremely refreshing to hear things I usually do not expect to come out of sports youtubers in general (no offense, I have an extremely low bar).
@melanatedgod5337
@melanatedgod5337 2 жыл бұрын
STRAIGHT UP FACTS!! I love his channel because, for the most part, he says what we fans of the game are always thinking and saying.
@_Solum
@_Solum 2 жыл бұрын
The role player point was excellent. This is, in my opinion, your first deep dive where you actually made a point that added a new perspective on the topic. Good video!
@Splackavellie85
@Splackavellie85 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the Popovitch video did that too
@TravisRiver
@TravisRiver 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically back when "work until you die for the same Man" was prevalent, there were robust safety nets in America, it was possible to buy a house on one income, wages hadn't stagnated in part due to union strength. It would be interesting to contrast that to today's extremely "empowered" NBA, while for the average American exploitation is the name of the game, and the "free market" has all but gutted Keynesian economics. There's an interesting tension between these two realities.
@OK-yy6qz
@OK-yy6qz 2 жыл бұрын
Im not sure if that's correlation or causation but it is interesting. The notion of being loyal to a company is almost a joke now but that company is also way more likely to screw you over and underpay you
@oseianderson4554
@oseianderson4554 2 жыл бұрын
Super based take 💯
@OK-yy6qz
@OK-yy6qz 2 жыл бұрын
There's are a couple more aspects to loyalty: one is that people love stability for the most parts, they don't wanna go into the trouble of moving to a new city and state , they probably have their friends and social life there and don't really wanna leave it. The other is legacy,i don't really think every player should really care about his legacy but i guess thats another topic (maybe you should make a deep dive on it) ,if they do care though it's usually a boost on a players legacy to remain loyal, mostly because legacy is mostly created by media and fans and they both value loyalty
@givecamichips
@givecamichips 2 жыл бұрын
Loyalty is something that helps players and fans connect, especially role players. Guys who played 16 minutes a game for the same team for 10 years are nearly as loved as the star players, at least while they play.
@Bolt1105
@Bolt1105 2 жыл бұрын
Ben watching for 2 years now, your grind and consistency is so admirable, especially when also taking into account the awesome quality put into your videos!!!
@user-tl2oi8kj4d
@user-tl2oi8kj4d 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the deep dive. Your honestly one of my favorite basketball content creators. Really respect the consistency too. Love from Denmark 🇩🇰
@joehooker7522
@joehooker7522 2 жыл бұрын
This is honestly my favorite deep dive you can tell you put alot of time, though and effort into this
@Klocks420
@Klocks420 2 жыл бұрын
Okay yeah, that was a great fucking deep dive. The amount of work Rusty puts into these deep dives is amazing and he continues to get better. Hope you're doing well bro, love your content!!
@za5528
@za5528 2 жыл бұрын
This might be your best ever video, been watching since 2019. Most things on NBA KZbin have been said many times and what makes it enjoyable is the channel's personality or quality, but this is really fresh and original and thoughtfully done, it's eye-opening and thought-provoking. Even where the broader point has been made elsewhere (that teams don't reciprocate loyalty and will trade you) you put it in ways that feel new (describing loyalty as contingent on how good a player is, posing the question about role player loyalty)
@urineformation
@urineformation 2 жыл бұрын
Your NBA Deep Dives are incredible bro. I can tell you put a lot of work into them.
@ThatDuuuude
@ThatDuuuude 2 жыл бұрын
Rusty with another banger Deep Dive! You are my NBAYT MVP this year because you apply real, crucial sociocultural perspectives into an extremely narrative absorbed nba discourse. You turned the over discussed topic about where dame's going? into a critical analysis of workers' rights in the nba. I truly believe this video and ones like your other deep dives should be watched by fans & players alike. Keep up the great work.
@JerrellGomez
@JerrellGomez 2 жыл бұрын
Man I’ve been following your channel for like 3 years now years now and yoooo you really getting some where with your story telling a captivating an audience, it’s crazy cause the reason I subscribed was cause of those two things 😂 just keeps getting better
@tylercampion3204
@tylercampion3204 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, appreciate the over-arching tone and excellent commentary on a difficult topic to cover!
@starwarsnewsandmemes8289
@starwarsnewsandmemes8289 2 жыл бұрын
I, for one, would love to see you do a deep dive on how Twitter (or social media in general, if you feel that would work better) has impacted the decisions NBA players have made.
@enthusiastofcute
@enthusiastofcute 2 жыл бұрын
Essentially, take the normal pressures/criticisms that general sports media have put on athletes since sports became popular and amplify that pressure by about a 100
@melanatedgod5337
@melanatedgod5337 2 жыл бұрын
That would be a great video.
@Notwince
@Notwince 2 жыл бұрын
Dude this is a phenomenal video amazing work. Enjoyed every second of it.
@jacama-bobjohan7516
@jacama-bobjohan7516 2 жыл бұрын
This was phenomenal! Very well thought out with great points!
@finalverdict2957
@finalverdict2957 2 жыл бұрын
This was your best deep dive yet, great work Rusty!
@tristancampbell4941
@tristancampbell4941 2 жыл бұрын
You never want to have a toxic relationship. It definitely doesn't help when the future ain't bright and nothing is new
@theowenstuart
@theowenstuart 2 жыл бұрын
LIKE THIS VIDEO THIS IS A MASTERPIECE. RESPECT RUSTY AND HIS EFFORTS
@SpectrumPulse
@SpectrumPulse 2 жыл бұрын
This is a GREAT video - happy you went to the bigger picture and brought the Raptors into it with the DeRozan trade, and as someone on the ground in Toronto, it's worth highlighting how the city handled it when after Kawhi won the championship, he left, because it's a fascinating expansion of the loyalty conversation. Because think about it, not only were you a part of bringing the first championship to a franchise in its history, you did it with the iconic Game 7 shot and picked up the attention of an entire country behind you, especially with a frankly loaded team that had your back when things went awry. Canada only has one NBA franchise after the Vancouver Grizzlies were moved in the early 2000s, and given the underachieving Blue Jays and the legacy of failure that is the Toronto Maple Leafs, it was a historic win for Toronto. And indeed, given how much free shit was being promised to Kawhi after the title win, there was a hope that he'd stay... But after he did go to the Clippers, even if in hindsight it comes across like a massive mistake as that Toronto team could easily compete for another finals with Kawhi staying, the mood in Toronto was... well, disappointed, but not overwhelmingly so. Folks seemed to understand that Kawhi never intended to be there, he helped do more than anyone could have expected, so when he left the mood was more gratitude and acceptance - a business agreement that worked out in the end for both parties. Similar notes to when Kyle Lowry was traded on his request to Miami - it might suck to lose the GROAT, but he wanted a championship shot as the Raptors rebuilt, and the franchise owed him that and tried to do right by him. Granted, some of this might be the most mature view of the franchise where the business with the DeRozan transaction stung HARD and pissed off a lot of people, and the Raptors are well-run in comparison with a lot of NBA franchises that get more attention - and even then, there was at least a decade when the Raptors organization was considered damn near a joke in the league even if they fielded good teams; it's easy to be reasonable about good business and understanding the limits of loyalty when you're not the Kings or the Knicks or the Blazers. One thing I do wish you could have touched on is how geography and franchise reputation plays into the loyalty conversation, specifically around player movement, in that there are certain franchises that it's way easier to be "loyal" to thanks to extenuating factors, especially when it comes to attracting free agents. The best example of this is Miami, where you have a well-run franchise in a popular city for players (Golden State is another one with SF), but any major metropolitan city like LA or NYC will get free agent attention and drive mobility, not just because they're perceived as being better places to live, but also because they can allow players to grow their off-court businesses (which is why it has to be absolutely maddening to Adam Silver that the Lakers and Knicks are nowhere near as well run as they should be). Paradoxically you can have well-run franchises that don't become free agent destinations (either due to small market situations (Milwaukee), cultural (Boston), or simply geography (any cold weather market, you can probably put Toronto in here too)), and loyalty picks up a different view from a fan's POV. In cases like Lillard's and Giannis', loyalty can keep a franchise player that help put them on the map, especially if the management is good... but with the stagnation in Portland (and the very real possibility of stagnation with the Bucks if they choose not to capitalize with Giannis having signed a long-term deal), it's absolutely a double edged sword, especially if owners want to slash payroll or not compete. Still, very solid video, really did enjoy it. Definitely like you going further with the deep dives.
@mallymac1214
@mallymac1214 2 жыл бұрын
These Deep Dives are so freaking good, keep it up
@In_tyme
@In_tyme 2 жыл бұрын
Preach. This is so accurate and true. Well said sir.
@t99155
@t99155 2 жыл бұрын
Waddup Rusty 💯another one 🔥🔥🏀
@maccamacaulay1659
@maccamacaulay1659 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I saw you in a BDubs stream yesterday. Love to see it.
@CrazylegoMan64
@CrazylegoMan64 2 жыл бұрын
What a great video! Loved every second of it!
@solomonkush5687
@solomonkush5687 Жыл бұрын
I Love Your NBA content the way you break down the aspects of the game business culture players etc. I enjoy your channel more than the mainstream NBA media keep doing what you doing I would love to see you do a breakdown on The business the actual money of the NBA the history of it and how it has changed the game I'll keep watching Peace
@splashnskillz37
@splashnskillz37 2 жыл бұрын
The fact you mentioned RDR 2 in blind loyalty made me love you even more
@xotwodyuh5961
@xotwodyuh5961 2 жыл бұрын
I heard somewhere I forgot where, but I agreed with the point. Loyalty could be for reasons outside of basketball as well, these players have lives outside of the game. Wife, kids. For some of these players they love living where they do and the stability it brings. While it is the players fault that they didn't get themself in a good enough situation to win, the people who choose to stay loyal (Beal, Lillard) are probably pretty content with it. (I DID NOT WATCH THE VIDEO MAKING THIS COMMENT, THOUGH I AM GOING TO WATCH THROUGH THE WHOLE THING NOW.)
@taleweaver34
@taleweaver34 2 жыл бұрын
Deep Dives! Yesssss! More please! More deep dives! Great take on loyalty. Definitely agree on Dame.
@juliandemoine2683
@juliandemoine2683 2 жыл бұрын
Only 10 seconds in and this is already a banger. Keep it up Rusty!
@armandsepulveda3038
@armandsepulveda3038 2 жыл бұрын
Dope content! Love these deep dives
@JawaPenguin16
@JawaPenguin16 2 жыл бұрын
20:08 A man of FINE culture you are indeed Rusty. Great game!
@rustybuckets
@rustybuckets 2 жыл бұрын
I legit finished that game right before working on this topic, timing couldn’t have been better to talk about blind loyalty
@jazzyprince3335
@jazzyprince3335 2 жыл бұрын
I’m early as hell for this one. Cant wait to watch another one of your detailed Deep dives!
@GodbodyRoku
@GodbodyRoku 2 жыл бұрын
Aye I'm pretty sure in your vids you talked about doing a deep dive but sometimes I don't pay attention but I'm glad that I was surprised at a new deep dive. Appreciate your content Rusty Buckets!
@GTNover
@GTNover 2 жыл бұрын
Another reminder of why I subscribed. Your deep dives are so good. Do one on Jokic!
@gornothdragnbone5898
@gornothdragnbone5898 2 жыл бұрын
this is your best video yet, will definitely be sharing.
@Majlo21
@Majlo21 2 жыл бұрын
In Lillard's case it is not about loyalty to the franchise, he just doesn't want to change the city where he and his family have lived in for so many years, we can't blame Dame that he prioritizes stability
@splashnskillz37
@splashnskillz37 2 жыл бұрын
What if they decide to leave tho ?
@jordandwiggins1026
@jordandwiggins1026 2 жыл бұрын
@@splashnskillz37 They haven’t. I live in Portland and I love it here. I don’t blame him for wanting to stay. Of course I could never ever blame him if he did choose to go to a team like the Celtics or Heat and win a ring, he more than deserves a team that can actually keep up with his talent. But he has a family in Portland, he owns a business, this city is everything he’s known for his whole adult life. The fact people think that just winning a ring is the only thing that should matter to him makes it seem like they don’t seem him as a person, they only see him as a basketball player. They don’t care what he wants they only care about what is more entertaining for them, and it’s really rather obnoxious.
@younezzz
@younezzz 2 жыл бұрын
Your best deep dive imo, great job
@1vaultdweller
@1vaultdweller 2 жыл бұрын
Players shouldn't be pushed into loyalty when teams have all the freedom to not be loyal to their players. Both sides should be judged by the same merits
@vick0602
@vick0602 2 жыл бұрын
i really enjoy your videos! love from Barcelona!
@allistairtenpenny2166
@allistairtenpenny2166 2 жыл бұрын
The boss baby joke really got me
@MBogdos96
@MBogdos96 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video - right back on the trend of your latest video being your best video!
@sunwukong798
@sunwukong798 2 жыл бұрын
Man Rusty, I love your deep dives! Never regret subscribing at 50k subs!
@UnrulySpirituality777
@UnrulySpirituality777 2 жыл бұрын
I love your deep dives. As you have often said, they really are your best videos. One thing I hope these players place more emphasis on is why they were drafted in the first place. They weren't drafted because they were good people or had great personalities. They were drafted because the team believed they had the potential to make them money/have a positive impact on their team. Yes they should be grateful for the opportunity. But they should also recognize that their talent is what brought them that opportunity.
@jay7166
@jay7166 2 жыл бұрын
Great choice of background music I’m watching this high asf and the music made he was saying sound poetic
@pear-head
@pear-head 2 жыл бұрын
Forgot to leave a like and a comment here earlier, so doing that now. Keep it up man.
@Donte1986
@Donte1986 2 жыл бұрын
Great deep dive. This may end up playing out like it did with the Timberwolves and KG where the franchise that's screwing you feels so bad that they're screwing you that they end up pushing you out the door for your own sake (i.e. KG to Boston). Seems like that's what it may take for Dame because I just don't see him requesting a trade. As you said, it just sucks to see a great player waste away for a franchise that's not committed to championship ball (and thus not really committed to you).
@jodyf8443
@jodyf8443 2 жыл бұрын
you're the best nba essayist. like honestly you should feel like a million bucks everyday.
@thisguy8106
@thisguy8106 2 жыл бұрын
Love the deep dives!
@thermitebanana
@thermitebanana 2 жыл бұрын
Love these deep dives
@jacobo1958
@jacobo1958 2 жыл бұрын
I don't really have to say this but this video was so well written, great work!
@stonyrodman8864
@stonyrodman8864 2 жыл бұрын
Comrade Rusty W great video as usual you do not miss good sir
@questcontentj871
@questcontentj871 2 жыл бұрын
So glad someone doesnt forget about sundays... I might share this with some people just for that
@jayyoda4596
@jayyoda4596 2 жыл бұрын
Love the rdr2 references at 20:05
@qiushihu9443
@qiushihu9443 2 жыл бұрын
To me, having a deep connection with a city and becomes immortal at that place is more important than winning a chip
@edw4738
@edw4738 2 жыл бұрын
The Arthur and Dutch reference was poetry
@zerti86
@zerti86 2 жыл бұрын
great great great video. easily your best deep dive
@KaiCameron
@KaiCameron 2 жыл бұрын
Rusty’s technical storytelling made a huge leap in this deep dive. His points hit harder by adding historical background in the beginning and relating it to current, general society towards the end. This video flowed so well, it’s definitely my favorite from a technical aspect.
@enanebres6481
@enanebres6481 2 жыл бұрын
Love this discussion
@do_yohomework
@do_yohomework 2 жыл бұрын
Most consistent channel out here fasho
@jamesthompson5287
@jamesthompson5287 2 жыл бұрын
It’s weird how in any other industry you can make money anywhere you want in order to succeed, but in sports you need to be loyal
@joeydickow7299
@joeydickow7299 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Keep up the great work.
@marlanbrown6851
@marlanbrown6851 2 жыл бұрын
This great deep dive 💪🏾
@Pedrososiii
@Pedrososiii 2 жыл бұрын
Great deep dive!!!
@kingjibby2987
@kingjibby2987 Жыл бұрын
The deep dive intro is soo good
@morgan_made
@morgan_made 2 жыл бұрын
Rusty with another gem!!!!
@CC35351
@CC35351 2 жыл бұрын
No doubt about it, Jacob is a Comrade! Good work!
@aminuabdullahi5922
@aminuabdullahi5922 2 жыл бұрын
This and the drose deep dive my two favorites so far
@user-kd3cv9kb4s
@user-kd3cv9kb4s 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this video and your other deep dives, and your perspective on loyalty from the superstar vs loyalty from the team is spot on. One criticism I have is your comment about LeBron leaving Cleveland at 6:35. I am from Ohio, a few years older than LeBron, and even though I am not a Cavs fan I have followed Lebron since he was in High School because local news aired his freshman and sophmore highlights and you could see even in High School he was gonna be great. I do agree he would have been hated because he left his "home team" in Cleveland in 2010. However, the 2 major factors for the level of hate is 1) The stupid ass hour long special to announce it, and 2) the fact that he decided to leave and team up with 2 other top 10-15 players in the NBA after not getting past Orlando in '09, then giving up in the 2010 playoffs. I nunderstand he did a lot with very litltle with those teams, but still, I watched a lot of NBA basketball back then and he was expected to make the finals against Kobe and didn't. They would not have burned his jersey and did half the shit they did if he had his free agency decision announced via Woj on ESPN like every one else does. There would have been hate strictly for teaming with DWade and Bosh but his Decision and the Heat introduction with the Not 1 Not 2....poured gasoline on the situation.
@cheriedanielle13
@cheriedanielle13 2 жыл бұрын
This is good shit 🙌🏻
@sterny7341
@sterny7341 2 жыл бұрын
Rusty I think I know what change you might wanna make and I’m kinda excited for it. I might be way off but I’m excited for the future of the channel if that change happens or not
@TheMarcolugo29
@TheMarcolugo29 2 жыл бұрын
I like the closing bit
@JD-ny3vz
@JD-ny3vz 2 жыл бұрын
This is your best video yet I love the sociological takes thrown in there.
@lildoughnut42O
@lildoughnut42O 2 жыл бұрын
Fire 🔥 vid bro ong
@DBMthe1
@DBMthe1 2 жыл бұрын
awsome video, you broke down loyalty throw sports perfectly
@saifmansour4075
@saifmansour4075 2 жыл бұрын
Bro u doing too much with the lights😂 jokes aside great vid as always
@arkoudiou
@arkoudiou 2 жыл бұрын
Great video after a loooong time! Good job Rusty! I think Gilbert Arenas said it best, when you leave a franchise you're a traitor but when they trade your ass it's just business.
@SuperSerial35
@SuperSerial35 2 ай бұрын
Whoops 😂 looks like Dame got some sense in him. Great video regardless 👍🏻
@stripedbacon
@stripedbacon 2 жыл бұрын
U know it’s a good day when you see a rusty deep dive on your feed
@targetzeal9330
@targetzeal9330 2 жыл бұрын
when rusty said "what about loyalty to role players" and talked about it. i had to sit up and take a deep dive into my brain and think about it cuz it hit me like jake paul.
@insrt1917
@insrt1917 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you tied loyalty to implications from capitalism, really gives a different perspective to the subject
@nickphillips3411
@nickphillips3411 2 жыл бұрын
Best one yet
@deepseadoughnut44
@deepseadoughnut44 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, really covered all angles of the topic. The point about teams having all the power before is something people don't talk about enough, and even though it's kinda going in the other direction now, I think it's better that there's more of a balance now. Having said that, there is definitely a problem for small market teams with this player empowerment. They don't have the leverage or security big market teams have which can lead to higher calibre players essentially bullying them into an unfavourable trade. And this puts them in catch 22 situation where no matter how hard they try to get a promising prospect, there is always the chance that prospect will be looking elsewhere as they will get more exposure and have a better chance at winning in the big teams. This is really unfair as they are basically stripped of any chance to become a more popular franchise, and teams like the Lakers can just rest on their laurels knowing they are a much more attractive destination. Idk what the solution is exactly, but something needs to change here, being a fan of a smaller market team shouldn't mean you can never hope to see them win, and have the odds stacked against you
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