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One of the many reasons I love rusty is his willingness to call out Karl malone EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. he mentions him. Others definetly need to follow rustys lead on this

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What did he do?

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@@TheChrismasCow got a 13 year old pregnant when he was 20 then refused as an NBA player to pay 200 dollars a week in child support or have any relationship with his son

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I think that kid is now in the NFL but that might a different Karl Malone kid

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Karl Malone even tried to hit on Kobe’s wife while he was injured and was kobes team / ex team mate. He’s a disgusting dude

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@@gokublackarcsaga752 it be like that.

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This is a great video. That interview with Steve Kerr was sheer magic. He was 100% right. These championship coaches inherited teams with the necessary talent to run their system.

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That interview came out while I was making the video too.. just amazing timing

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I always find it so crazy how some people don’t know how much Duncan really carried the early Spurs the game plan was just let Tim dominate and we’ll win

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He went toe to toe with shaq and kobe in their primes and got the best of them a couple times

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@@souljaseet438 he even had Kobe crying on the sidelines one of those years.

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I think people are pretty aware of the defensive force he was for most of his career. His offence though, yeah, a lot of people forget that.

[@souljaseet438]

@@12savage68 yeah Duncan is underrated deserves his name in the tier just below Mj and Lebron

[@12savage68]

@@souljaseet438 maybe even above lebron ...he's beat him a few times in the finals.

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[@imanolvides3185]

Wilt couldve had a better career if he had a consistently good system. Philly's system made wilt less productive but more team oriented. If that system had continued, wilt would have 3-5 chips instead of 2.

[@andrewm7351]

He definitely should have won 69 and 70 on the lakers

[@RLSmith-jt8qj]

The system made the team productive

[@tj5180]

Wilt was a choker in the playoffs and several coaches even teammates have said he was a stat paddler and that was his main focus. I'm sure if it wasn't for that. He would have had a goat case. Alex was a great coach for Philly and changed wilt when they won the title in 1967

[@imanolvides3185]

@@tj5180 cant deny that. He only cared about his stats. But his chip in 1967 proves that he had some potential

[@Sniper_T_2x]

@@tj5180 wilt also got fouled alot, like more than jordan rules fouled that takes a toll on your body and mind

[@shanethompson9891]

Another overlooked thing is that the suns took advantage of the “freedom of movement” rule changes. The head of the committee that made the change was also the suns GM. I believe his name was Jerry Colangelo.

[@tj5180]

LOW did a video about that.

[@frankdux4515]

Algo

[@chrisshepard8273]

I like this video idea a lot. Especially when understanding system with the player. Another example is MJ you knew he was great before the triangle, but the triangle helped make him a champion.

[@EdwardElfigo]

Exactly, just like curry he was already an All-star and an All-NBA team player but needed that something extra to start winning silverware

[@calebwilliams9198]

It’s a team game. So crediting the entire team for an accomplishment is whats best.

[@Okkotsu86275]

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[@heylolp9]

"System Player" in mind is a compliment because you actually need to reach a peak to be labeled one this system needs to be so dominant with you at the helm that it is a sign of personal dominance if the team is built around you which as in most ways work from the time they benefit from great coaching combined with the actual pure skill

[@Loqque]

Pop always openly said that his whole success happened because Duncan was an anchor of the team.

[@shorewall]

If you're a coach with a top talent, and are able to win some championships, that makes your career, because then you are seen as a winning coach. And people listen to what you have to say, and give you respect, which is what a coach needs. If no one listens to or respects the coach, it doesn't matter how good he is.

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[@russellpo7758]

I feel like the idea of “system players” comes from football as schematics affect the effectiveness of the players way more than in basketball. For example, Tom Brady was labeled a system player for a long time as the Patriots offense was still very good even when players like Matt Cassell, who hadn’t started a football game since high school, were playing, which made it seem like Brady was only good because of the system he was in.

[@kyvsthewrld]

System player arguments be so annoying I remember people were on tom brady for that and look at him now😭

[@nicmagtaan1132]

@@kyvsthewrld tom brady is the best guy for the system he is in, or whatever it is but mostly i find the arguments about his team's defense winning stuff

[@voiceofreason2674]

That’s a good point I sometimes listen to people use the term “system player” and they know what they’re talking about but theyre using the term like you would for football

[@tnikoli40]

Joe montana and steve young are the perfect example of a system player

[@PassivesAbseits]

I'd argue, that "Phenomenal Player Development" is the Spurs System. It is really insane, how much value they got out of low draft picks. Like almost every pick outperformed expectations. I mean, they drafted George Hill with the 26th Pick, formed him into a "We might give up a 15th Pick" player in 3 years and then drafted a future Finals MVP with that pick. In hindsight, trading Hill for Leonard should be one of the worst all-time trades. But that hindsight only works, because the Spurs were that good at developing players...

[@shorewall]

Yeah, Kawhi was drafted as a defense guy, who might develop a 3pt shot and be a 3 and D guy. Instead he became MJ lite, before injuries. A lot of that is on him, but you could believe him developing that way on the Spurs. What if Kawhi was drafted by the Sacramento Kings? Yeeesh...

[@PricefieldPunk]

I think its a fact that every Mike D'Antoni player becomes a system player. He elevated Jeremy Lin, Raymond Felton, Earl Clark, and Kendall Marshall from bench warmers to starters, Steve Nash and James Harden from allstars to MVPs.

[@rickharrison1737]

Nash was spearheading league best offenses before and after D’Antoni.

[@JD-ny3vz]

@@rickharrison1737 But he wasn't an MVP Candidate.

[@griffinhenley1695]

Someone missed the point

[@will9840]

U literally missed the whole point of the video

[@sharifbrown3567]

@@JD-ny3vz he should have been.

[@taustin4948]

This topic exposes a lot of coaches. How many coaches can you say run a system that takes full advantage of their top talent? I feel like the majority don't. The evidence being that there are so few teams that have an easily identifiable system at all. This was especially obvious to me when the warriors were taking off. Other teams just started shooting more and more from farther out without the talent to do so. There seems to be very little creativity among nba coaches when their top player's skillet isn't the same as the top 3-5 players in the league.

[@arcangel879]

The current bulls is a great example of adjusting their system on their current roster. It gave demar more wings without clipping lavine's. It surprised me ngl.

[@aaronghunter]

Well, consider this. The adoption of effective systems is somewhat limited by lack of continuity in many organizations, and it tends to take time to identify a system from the outside. We know D'Antoni deploys systems because his initial system was named years ago, and because he has run identified systems since. However, none of his systems have led to a championship and he has run at least four - the seven seconds or less suns, the harden-heliocentric version, the binary star harden-paul tandem, and the harden-westbrook alternating-heliocentric. Each of these systems were great to an extent, the last two were brought down by injuries primarily. This year we have a lot of teams that crawled out of the dark, including the Bulls, the Cavaliers, the Wizards and potentially the Timberwolves. Each of these teams has a new identity, a new play style, but do they have systems? I think the Cavaliers do, same with the Bulls, but we haven't really named them yet.

[@shorewall]

It's tough to coach at all in the NBA. How are you gonna demand things of your players? Remember Melo saying he didn't want to play in the Triangle? He also didn't want to play D'antoni ball. Nah, what he wanted was to jab step until the shot clock wound down, and then take a tough shot. :D Look at Curry, look at Nash, look at Duncan. All are humble, hard working, coachable stars. When your best player is coachable, it sets the tone. For most teams, the players just wanna ball out. Most players want a coach that ain't gonna tell them shit, just hype them up and let them ball out. Leadership comes from the top down, and that means owners. Good teams have good owners, and good owners get good coaches and GMs, who get good players. When everything is in alignment, dynasties happen.

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Rusty is wearing a suit. Shits about to go down! Let't go! The way i see it, talents commands the system, because why would a coach make a system that does not help put their talent in the most winning-est position?

[@nochi396]

Loved the video. The ending quote is spot on. Keep it up Rusty!

[@smesh8318]

Nash, Curry, Duncan.. they make the systems work

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That ending really tied up the argument flawlessly. Amazing video.

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Fact

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Great video, man! After the bit from Steve Kerr I could only think about the Nick Nurse situation in 2019…

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[@VerdeBoy13]

Steph isn’t a system player. He’s a SYSTEM, player.

[@arcangel879]

I AM THE SYSTEM!!! - some guy named wardell 😂

[@pedroaugustocosta2533]

Yes, Steph, Nash, Lebron, Jordan, Duncan, Kobe, Magic etc... they made system succeed, not the system make them succeed

[@somregularguy]

Is it really? What about those 30 screens, half of which are illegal, from Draymond, what about the 2nd best player there who gives him space in Klay, everytime they win anything they’re a super deep roster with with role players playing bigger than they are

[@pedroaugustocosta2533]

@@somregularguy It's Curry's fault the refs aren't calling ilegal screens? It's Curry's fault that Klay is a good player and Keer knows how to coach properly? In the end of the day, it's Curry's team, he IS the system, that team lives and dies playing Curry ball, he is good enough to build a team around, and good enough to make it work, Curry is not a system player, he is an all time great that got the opportunity to have a team build around him, and what happened when an team, a coach, an organization, a city put their trust on Curry, that let him go off and made all the moves to better use his talent? one of the greatest dynasties in the history of the NBA. Curry IS the System, that team will live and die for him.

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[@jpowell6418]

I've watched a couple of your videos. But this one is so on point. When debating others. I basically wanna give em this video. Both the player and system are working together to make each other work. That's what creates the best teams and players. So as you asked. I liked and subscribed. And btw I was your 3k like. Keep up the good work.

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Excellent upload. Learned a lot on this one

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I will never understand superstars getting the “system player” label, at some point you have to acknowledge their talent lol

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@Fries I could see that lol

[@legendarywiimaster]

@Fries even in the eastern conference in the 2000s, take like LeBron. The system wasn’t favorable which becomes a problem. Now sure LeBron was playing in the weak east, but getting that Cavs team to the finals would’ve been easier if he didn’t have to do so much on offense. Or heck, Tim Duncan having probably the GOAT coach is beneficial, but still carried the team in ‘03.

[@legendarywiimaster]

@Fries yep. I’ve got MJ at 1 and LeBron at 2. MJ’s finals opponents were some of the greatest. But yeah I always try to appreciate LeBron knowing he’s not gonna be around forever

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The last quote really got me.

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[@canadadry4609]

Stephon Marbury the year before nash arrived, with amare, with marion, with dantoni as coach, still couldn't win even .500 level, let alone 62 wins. Nash made the system. Even another all star level pg wasnt gonna make close to the same impact. Also in the moment NOONE qas saying amare was as good as nash lol. Its the kids nowadays 15+ years later that simply didn't watch or follow basketball back then

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I like the editing of TD and KG while narrating the comparison of the players within the system especially since im a KG fan. Subtle

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Keep up the good work and keep doing what us other nba nerds can’t. Believe in ourselves enough to speak the truth.

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[@NickTriant23]

It boggles the mind how the Spurs tactical approach in the Duncan era is just lost to the eyes of the average watcher of this sport. OF COURSE they had a perfectly build system around Duncan, what people don't seem to get though is that Pop didn't just say "Hey Tim, just pick up the ball and carry us". The San Antonio Spurs' dynasty and basketball legacy in general was built around one of the most meticulous and detailed defensive plans in league history, all centered around Tim Duncan's ability to actually organize a defense. Sure, his individual defensive skills were amazing, but what truly made them elite was his perception of the game, ability to read the opposition's set and being able to disrupt it either by doing it himself or even by directing other around him to do so. All that was built by combining Greg Popovic and his astute basketball mind, a great player (that could positively affect others) and his strongest attributes (in this case defense) and a soundly constructed roster that could execute the plan. Stop making it about one player or one "system". Basketball is one of the most tactically deep sports, so undervaluing even on of the aformentioned factors is doing the sport a disservice.

[@enriqueperez2551]

Lol I loved this video Rusty, but I hope you meant except Kobe vs Nash @ 12:40

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[@aaronghunter]

I appreciate this deep dive a great deal, in part because it dovetails with my own opinion, but also because it was concise and clear. It would be interesting to see further expansion on the topic, covering how systems develop with examples of system and talent mismatch (Quinn Buckner + Triangle, Mavericks Triple J Ranch), the adjustment process in practice (D'Antoni), and systemic decay (Dame's Blazers?) and/or successful non-system teams.

[@mofocardinal]

Welll done Rusty. You can also apply this to teams with good front offices like GMs and presidents for basketball operations. Take a player like Lebron who suffered from bad management his first several years and put him in the Spurs while taking away Duncan and we still would have won at least 5 chips because the front office would have given Lebron good players to play with and developed nearly everyone to their potential. Lebron would not have needed to put his team in hostage situations with his short contracts in the 2010s because they would have been competent, giving him confidence to sign long-term and not worry about bone headed decision making and failing to surround him with talent.

[@aaronghunter]

I think in the fullness of time, Lebron will be underrated because he wasted half his career fighting inertia and incompetence to bring a title to Cleveland.