RW Orcish Artillery vs Mono Black, Alpha 40 Finals | Old School Magic the Gathering

[@audetnelson1]

More alpha40 content on your chanel pleasee :)

[@thefrozengoat]

agreed! if possible

[@zoltantasato-farkas4862]

Yes please!

[@FREEFROMITALL]

My only gripe.. he needs his black deck in black sleeves.

[@TimmytheSorcerer]

👌

[@holzinatorius]

Nice gameplay and decks. I love the 2mana Orcish Artillery. Never played the 3mana one back in the days.

[@Rorschachqp]

Orcish Artillery is a beast in Limited formats. It basically guarantees you have tempo by removing all blockers and it can also end the game faster since you can shoot the other player as well.

[@youuuuuuuuuuutube]

17:20 The card doesn't hit the other card though, there is no overlap if the cards themselves. There is with the sleeves but not the cards.

[@ibanezleftyclub]

Depends if the tournament considers the sleeves part of the card, most do.

[@TimmytheSorcerer]

Exactly, it’s all about the rules you set beforehand. I participated in a naked flip tournament a few weeks back, now that was fun 🎉

[@JD-gk7eh]

The sequence with the triple Black Knight attack with the Royal on Anthony's side was quite poor from Dennis's perspective; it was around @34:00. But I may be misunderstanding the rules in A40? Dennis could have double blocked a Knight and killed it in combat and then tapped one Artillery to kill the Royal after combat (and prevent the damage). He loses one Artillery but then gets to untap with the other and can blast a Knight, leaving Anthony with just one Knight left, which would die the next turn. Is there something in Alpha's rules that prevent this?

[@nikkeiputter]

Congrats, Dennis. Well played!

[@didymussumydid9726]

Gorgeous playmats. I don’t know how you guys play on the extremely colorful/busy ones.

[@tobiasschier1687]

We had them made for every player that took part in the tournament. New Designs for next year are already in the pipeline 😉

[@victorbryant2791]

Oh man that orb flip in the first game was only succsessful because of the sleeve! Close one

[@Cherokie89]

Anthony over here flicking his cards nervously for three solid minutes before playing a swamp.

[@JoeCamarillo]

Good to see a different format!

[@TimmytheSorcerer]

🙌

[@forestreader]

Paralyze > Weakness. I think it's pretty hard to argue otherwise except in niche circumstances

[@Rorschachqp]

@@forestreader Remember this is a format where you can run 8 Sol Rings in a 40 card deck and 90+% of the time have at least 1 copy and like 50% of the time have 2 copies by turn 3.

[@tobiasschier1687]

In our tournament, Anthony had really good plays with weakness... The card was really strong in some match ups

[@tobiasschier1687]

​@@Rorschachqpsol ring is restricted to 1 copy in alpha 40 league

[@WarhavenSC]

ABU black mana symbols always be drooling. Cracks me up. :D

[@firecrest3325]

Now you can have an actual tim card :)

[@WarhavenSC]

Oh yeah. I saw Monty Python was coming to MtG. I don't play modern, but I did get a foil set of the D&D Adventure Module lands. Might get a Tim just because.

[@TimmytheSorcerer]

🙌 Hopefully it’ll give the movie some renewed attention, it’s such a masterpiece and still relevant imo.

[@udhh2619]

$500 land bases gotta respect them boys 💪🏽

[@TimmytheSorcerer]

Yep, they sure have dedication 🙌

[@vincentcrisci5412]

🤔 are you getting the new secret layer mighty pipe on? Tim card

[@TimmytheSorcerer]

No secret lair for me (the computer art just doesn’t do it for me), but I’m happy that they did it. Hopefully the movie will get some renewed attention, it’s such a masterpiece and still relevant imo.

[@aniesc3257]

Play six Drudge Skeletons and three Pestilence... That will keep the Artilleries from the board ;-)

[@TimmytheSorcerer]

This deck needs a Lord of the Pit ;)

[@aniesc3257]

@@TimmytheSorcerer😂😂😂lul 😘

[@Rorschachqp]

It's kind of a weird format since OG 40 card rules is unviable as a real format. The reason is using the original rules, you can make so many decks that kill on turn 1 almost guaranteed 100%. For example, 25x Ancestral Recall and 17x Black Lotus (42 cards so it's tougher to deck yourself, not a problem to have over 40 since you only have 2 cards in your deck. Turn 1, drop all your Loti, Ancestral yourself like 9-11 times, keep dropping all the Loti you draw to keep fueling...then cast 11+ Ancestral targeting the opponent. They will always deck out. You can also do something similar with Lotus and Channel+Fireball but with three different cards, none of which draw any cards, the chances of a bad draw increase by a lot. You can also do all Lotus and Wheel Of Fortune and Lightning Bolts. This is a format asking for X-points type of house rules. As for an OG version of a deck actually played, since in any part of the world in 1994 except for in Los Angeles it was almost impossible to find a dozen or two of the same rare in Alpha, you can do mono-black, all Swamps, Dark Rituals, Plague Rats and Sink Hole.

[@TreeFcknFiddy]

I think this league was quite artful in the way they chose what and how to restrict and moderate cards

[@Nahti1]

In the A40 league are limitations to avoid that. Feel free to check out the Alpha rules ;)

[@Rorschachqp]

@@Nahti1 I did before I made the post. That was also kind of weird as well.

[@JD-gk7eh]

Also who owns 25 Alpha Ancestral Recall? Or more than one alpha Lotus?

[@Rorschachqp]

@@JD-gk7eh People do. Brian Weissman and Vintage Magic have a video “the most expensive deck in ever” or something.

[@babylonastronaut]

As a mbc player in pauper, pesti is busted.

[@ibanezleftyclub]

Wait so if OA is cast as printed on the card, does this mean Cyclopean Tomb is free to cast? 😜😜

[@Rorschachqp]

Maybe? But technically it's null to cast so you can't cast it from your hand, just like Modern Horizons 2 cards like Profane Tutor where normally it's Cascade'ed in.

[@TimmytheSorcerer]

Good one, I’m sure they mention it in their rules (I think there’s a link in the vid’s description)

[@ibanezleftyclub]

@@TimmytheSorcererI actually checked out their rules page and it’s not mentioned, so now I’m even more curious lol guess it really only has 3 possibilities : 1. it’s Uncastable due to lack of any mana symbol, 2. It’s played as beta rules, or 3, it’s free to cast which I doubt Lolol I’m putting my money on #2 lol

[@ibanezleftyclub]

@@Rorschachqpyeah, I doubt it though, probably played as if it was a beta copy. Unlike OA, it was always designed for a 4CC and it was just a printing error. Also is beta CoP:Black and Volcanic Island allowed in Alpha40 since those were also just a printing error and not intentionally left out?

[@Rorschachqp]

@@ibanezleftyclub Probably not. A good deck in this format would be red/green though as Orcish Oriflamme was busted back then.

[@mindful_clip]

zoom more..

[@TimmytheSorcerer]

Ok :))

[@davidsands3194]

Really don't like this format. 6 orcish artillery? Iron star shenanigans? Seems unfair, unbalanced and unfun.

[@JD-gk7eh]

I think that's pretty much the point. You can also add "prohibitively expensive" to your list. This is very much a format about what you can afford or happened to owned for the better part of two dozen years because you got it long ago when it was fairly cheap.

[@TimmytheSorcerer]

To each their own :) I personally like these type of formats when you play with what you have and you both have jank 😅 eg I love casting my Phantasmal Forces in my beta blue deck, but only if I play against another equally janky AB deck.

[@collectlusch5706]

due to the the League rules it actually is pretty balanced in comparison to the original rules. There are no overpowered decks as both players build to the same rules. It’s pretty close to the original game that Garfield initially intended. It is straight forward without endless combinations and loops like in Modern

[@jcolincampbell]

Seems pretty wild. I think my alpha jank would be a healing salve, an iron root treefolk and maybe a llanowar elves with no land to cast any of it? I like watching it but R40 is the better price point for my wallet😅