RWBY Theory - The Ace Ops Traitor

[@nikolab.4065]

PLOT TWIST: *The traitor is the Invisible Girl, but you just can't see her.*

[@downhere5413]

the thing I’ve noticed is that every single colour in the intro for the teams is pastel, except clovers, it’s just a hard green.

[@rudoskudos4047]

I thought similar. My thought is there are two types of green. So it's either Clove or the hammer girl (forgot her name). Clover is more suspicious.

[@downhere5413]

Rudomekato her green is a pastel colour, so I don’t see why she would be a traitor, nor is her character important enough to be so.

[@toniaclayton3313]

Good observation!🙏 didn’t notice until you said it now it’s plain as day!

[@Blazingstoke]

Clover's exact words are, "Your niece sure is one-of-a-kind, huh?" Which makes it even more likely he knows about the silver eyes...

[@ozmasterofmasks5838]

Oh man you are right!

[@kyutie3905]

NO DAMN IT, QROW FINALLY GOT A FRIEND WOFJKSHDIEJ -or maybe something more-

[@ieatpandas8903]

This is totally wrong but I really want him to be talking about Yang because Ruby and Qrow aren’t actually related at all because Ruby’s mom wasn’t Raven.

[@blademaster2390]

Mika Ging Qrow is Ruby’s Step-Uncle.

[@danielperry656]

While I never trusted Marrow fully for some odd reason, I don't think the lack of night vision is a problem. The series earlier establishes that he likely doesn't have night vision when he asked Blake to scout ahead because she is a faunus with night vision when they were in the schnee dust mines. That being said, he may have been able to use his semblance in the dark to freeze in the direction of where he heard Tyrian killing people. On the side of it being Clover being the traitor, I think it would have a worse impact on not just his team or ironwood, but Qrow. Clover seems to be Qrow's first new/real friend in a long time, right at the moment where he is trying to re-invent himself nonetheless. I can see a showdown between the two after Clover's betrayal where we find out which semblance will prevail if pitted against each other. I imagine clover gloating over a injured Qrow when the ceiling falls in or some other unlikely event somehow kills him before he is able to strike the final blow against Qrow. "I told you I'm a bad luck charm"

[@brookjorden7022]

Can this be a writing prompt?

[@DeepbloodFang]

He emphasized on "someone small, preferably someone who can see in the dark"..indicating that they needed someone small who could fit through the narrow cracks and see in the dark behind the rubble as well, cause he himself couldn't fit through. I really wish people would look at the context in these situations, not at just what someone said, seriously creates too many misunderstandings in people.

[@danielperry656]

@@DeepbloodFang good point, forgot that particular bit.

[@danielperry656]

@Joslyn Vazquez Nah, I'll stick with the cheesy lines. Be happy there wasn't a pun ;)

[@skyrogue1977]

It’s obviously Clover, he’s too perfect.

[@mr.e-m2971]

Maybe it's not him because it's way to obvious

[@Ismail-kv3ex]

@@mr.e-m2971 CRWBY is known for doing some really stupid shit in the past A prime example is how much security was at the rally, but literally anyone could walk in, no questions asked or even how Penny was framed for multiple murders, yet she was seen with clean blades infront of every eye witness Besides, theres many who dont think its him anyway, simply resorting to "Coincidence" as their main argument

[@imafemale4365]

I don't know...Vine seems suspicious to me

[@mr.e-m2971]

@@Ismail-kv3ex the dumbest thing they can do is have none of them be the traitor and just have a five person team

[@bskec2177]

@@Ismail-kv3ex Security at the rally was Penny and Marrow. Not exactly heavy, and they were there to keep an eye on Robin, not protect people.

[@caydengarvey657]

I feel like the Ace Ops aren't technically a team. Their team name doesn't contain all the necessary letters like RWBY and JNPR and is more of an organization than a team. And we don't even know if they were students.

[@miker1647]

Of course they were students at some point. All the military personnel were said to be students that graduated Atlas Academy and persuaded to join the military.

[@caydengarvey657]

@@miker1647 yeah. I'm thinking they were all apart of seperate teams in school and were all hand picked by ironwood to be put in the Ace Ops after graduation.

[@emilianomerendino3311]

@@caydengarvey657 Yeah, most probable

[@noox13]

@@miker1647 Not ALL military personnel. Special Operatives are the ones that graduated from Atlas Academy and decided to join the military. Winter is Ironwood's right-hand woman and the Ace Ops are the best of the rest of the Special Ops.

[@PlagueBunny]

*The Ace Ops get introduced* Me: *pulls out knife* “Alright which one of you is the traitor?!?!?”

[@DocMicrowave]

Better yet. Get Robin to work with you. Then have her give each person in Ironwood's inner circle a friendly handshake and appropriate question. (Of course, that might not bode well for Team RWBY and company.)

[@FirePuncher183]

@@DocMicrowave *grabs* *Robin* *by* *the* *hand* alright so which one of you is the traitor?!

[@DocMicrowave]

@@FirePuncher183 More like opening with "Is there anything your hiding or keeping from the general?" Yes or no. Then move on from there.

[@franciscovazquezjr4550]

"Traitor!!" *starts spinning shock baton*

[@blueblade6174]

Eren from Blind Wave: *woosh woosh woosh*

[@Aedanthefirst]

"Traitor!!" *screams at you violently*

[@Gameguy-gk8lx]

Insayion 8 “It’s treason then...” *starts spinning himself with his lightsaber out*

[@franciscovazquezjr4550]

@@blueblade6174 ayyyy, a fellow wave rider lol

[@MCA-ks1hm]

INSERT DUEL OF THE FATES

[@Gameguy-gk8lx]

Phoenix: Who is the traitor in the Ace Ops? Me: I’ll do you one better! WHY is the traitor in the Ace Ops!?

[@blueblade6174]

Infinity War, lol!

[@theunworthyrecruitajsdb]

To cause chaos 🤪

[@sunnayy_]

i'll do YOU a better one! WHAT is the traitor in the Ace Ops!

[@imafemale4365]

Excellent, sir

[@anidiot1012]

I’ll do You one better! How is the traitor in the ace operatives...

[@VFenris6184]

In defense of Doggo Marrow! To quote Pyrrah, “it’s night vision, many Faunus are known to have nearly perfect sight in the dark” (Volume 1 chapter 10). Now she says many which means not all Faunus have perfect sight. She also mentions ‘nearly’ as well, so it may be that some Faunus have perfect sight, near perfect, or no sight in the dark at all. So it’s possible that Marrow is one of the few Faunus that can’t see in the dark. In Defense of Clover, as I am a supporter of Lucky charms/Fair game, (not using it in this reasoning.) I don’t think they would make clover the traitor cause it would be too obvious in my opinion. We meet this new guy, and he helps out, gives some good advice. Yes, classic traitor alarms blaring but that doesn’t mean he’s definitely the traitor. That’s my two scents what do you think?

[@nezzaUwU]

I really hope it's not Clover, it really would be too obvious. I think any other member would be far more interesting, with Marrow being the most interesting option. I feel like, from a writing standpoint, it wouldn't make much sense for them to specifically choose a faunus to be "working security" during the party and then say "oh well hes one of the specific faunus without night vision." In my opinion, it was either a complete mistake by the crew or Marrow is a traitor.

[@comradecat3629]

This is rooster teeth we’re talking about. Knowing you them and the writing for this show it is most likely is the obvious one, or clover. I hate it but seriously, most things in this show have been predictable.

[@lemonkatze7461]

there is also the fact that they made blake go through the crack in the mine because of her nightvision. if he had nighvision why didnt he do it???

[@matiasamoruso247]

But if anyone but Clover is the traitor, wouldn't his semblance tell him in some way? (for example, being in the right place at the right time). And what if there are 2 traitors, after all, there are 2 seats left

[@KeeKage37]

In my mind, it’s ether Clover or Vines. Clover is just too perfect, I get he has luck semblance. But you know the saying about something being too good to be true. Vines hasn’t done anything yet. But I’m getting a real Aldain brothers vibe from him.

[@DocMicrowave]

I should think a possible traitor would get more screen time. It would be a bit cheesy to just throw someone out there who you hardly see to say they are the traitor. Marrow is second to Clover in screen time. I am leaning towards him being it. Clover is just a bit to easy. Plus there's RT's pension for misdirection for a big reveal/plot twist.

[@ShayTheValiant]

It's definitely Clover because Ren sensed him twice before he showed up.

[@dannod9961]

Master Templar Shay 😨

[@DocMicrowave]

I thought the same thing early on. However, in light of recent episodes, as well as RT's pension for misleading clues. I think we're being setup for a big plot twist.

[@furyberserk]

@@DocMicrowave You'd need a big plot first.

[@DocMicrowave]

@@furyberserk lol. Allow me to rephrase. We are being setup for a slight, but not so unexpected change in how the attempt at a story is progressing.

[@DocMicrowave]

Also, if it is not the low hanging fruit that is 'Clover is a traitor', then some explanation as to what is bugging Ren is in order.

[@neofulcrum5013]

For me It’s Clover, the Faunus or Harriet. One of these feel the most off to me.

[@nezzaUwU]

I was just thinking it would be Clover or Harriet until I realised how odd it was that Marrow did nothing during the attack

[@asuna5701]

“The Faunus” lol racist! (Jk) but you know the quiet ones you should look out for like Vine

[@michellemarsh1510]

I think in volume 1 someone said ,most Faunus can see in the dark

[@neofulcrum5013]

Asuna It’s possible but to me Vine is too obvious

[@Blazingstoke]

@@michellemarsh1510 That's true, but Marrow still asked Blake to scout out the dark passage in the mine, rather than going himself.

[@Shywarlikegirl]

I feel like 2 people will betray, leaving three people in a team, that then Qrow can then join. I have a feeling Vine will be one. I think Clover is a strong option, but I think it could be Harriet. She's trying to get close to rwby and learn her abilities, her strengths and weaknesses so that she can tell Salem. Edit: Also if you compare her looks to that of the person that took Maria's sight they do look a lot a like, so maybe its possible she knows about silver eyes, because silver eyes took her mom. So she finds the person that wants to kill silver eyes and decided to join Salem.

[@cinnakincat4260]

Yep.

[@killlahjofficial4559]

If any of them were a traitor it would make sense for it to be Marrow just because he is the rookie, and the rookie is the most likely to be deceived.

[@dalekcaan8495]

I think it's just because I think any meenie miney mo multiple times and it landed on him

[@blueblade6174]

Now that you mentioned being decieved, I'm imagining a possibility of Marrow being an ex White Fang member.

[@killlahjofficial4559]

@@blueblade6174 good point. Could have possible ties with Blake or Adam.

[@killlahjofficial4559]

@@adonaimelles2317 and maybe Salem or watts could try to trick him with so much more then what ironwood is giving him.

[@meme.2943]

i can just feel it being clover

[@MinisterEvil]

7:13 You and Clover kind of look a little alike.

[@PhoenixNight]

Thank you! 😊

[@alexhuynh1066]

Plot twist: You are Clover's brother

[@twinodoom]

My Aceops traitors suspicion ratings. Clover: As the leader, he's gotten more focus than most of the others. Which also makes it easy to hide anything suspicious he may be pulling. Being the leader also makes him the most damaging person to trust. He could have been scheming to gain Ironwood's trust, and successfully using his position as the leader of the Ace Ops to sabotage Ironwood and he would have the least difficulty keeping secrets from his teammates because he has the most of control of their missions. And depending on how loyal the others are to him, some of the others could be willing to support his betrayal. (9/10, Don't trust as far as I can throw) Marrow: I don't doubt that Marrow likes working with RWBY and JNPR because he seems to prefer working with them over his own teammate. His differences from the other Aceops could be the surface of his disloyalty, not being willing to blindly play the role of lapdog like the others. While he isn't good at hiding his emotions, that also plays into people underestimating him. It's easy to read his emotions, but understanding them is another story. He might have been pleased to work with team RWBY because it makes it easier for him to spy on them, or happy to see that Blake didn't show up to Hill's celebration because that increased the chances of nothing going wrong. During the blackout, he calls for backup but otherwise doesn't do much to help Penny, which consequently allowed Penny alone to be in position to be framed for Tyrian's actions. He also doesn't make it clear as to whether or not he could see Tyrian (or if he actually did for that matter) making it even harder to determine if he may have known who Tyrian was before Ruby identified him. And because his teammates already don't seem to like him much and no one suspects any betrayal from within the Aceops, he doesn't need to place much effort into keeping hidden because no one would expect him to betray them because they barely see him as a threat. The least suspicious person in a group might be the most suspicious of all. Especially when he's been given more focus than most his teammates. (8/10, Keeping my eye on you) Harriet: She was the first to point out that the Aceops don't see each other as friends, but she otherwise doesn't do much. While she would be willing betray anyone without personal issues, she probably wouldn't be acting alone. She doesn't seem to have any ulterior motives, and would probably only betray Ironwood if everybody's doing it. (5/10, Trust but unverified) Elm: Elm has had the least focus of the Aceops. She's either intentionally avoiding suspicion too such an extent that there's absolutely no reason to suspect her, or she's not supposed to be suspicious because she's not a suspect at all. (2/10, Not too worried) Vine: Vine seems to be almost an emotionless cog, perfectly suited to blindly following orders. In contrast to Marrow, Vine wasn't even worried about the Group's safety over the mission. However, that blind loyalty could also be the disguise any disloyalty he might have. Like Elm, we haven't been given much reason to suspect him. (3/10, You're no Lysanderoth)

[@TeddyBear-sf2pk]

I’d like to believe that if there is a traitor it wouldn’t be Clover but he feels too good to be true.

[@Not_Ciel]

8:54 I disagree. Clover was the one Ironwood chose to bring to the dinner. That means that he trusts him more than the other Ace Ops. Maybe not as much as Winter (who goes EVERYWHERE with him), but maybe enough to mention small details such as Ruby having silver eyes. Plus, I thought it was common knowledge that people with silver colored eyes were said to have Silver Eyes anyways. So maybe he's just heard the legends.

[@EngineScypex]

Why should the fact that Ruby has silver eyes, one of the most effective weapons against Grimm (the known threat in the world of Remnant) and the reason the most dangerous present Grimm at the fall of Beacon could be stopped, be a small detail? Am I the only one with this thought?

[@synergy8315]

From a writers perspective, there are other ways to deal with this other than betrayal. As four is such an important number in Rwby, the Ace Ops "imbalance" of five could prove to be their downfall thus further instilling the belief in the watcher in the importance of four. They could lose a member to death, causing Qrow to blame his semblance, and Clover (If he was the or one of the survivors.) to blame himself for his semblance not being strong enough to prevent the loss. Clover or Marrow could be being given so much character growth compared to the others to cause their loss to be more impactful, or because (With the loss of a teammate/teammates.) they are meant to have a further role with the main group. If there _is_ a traitor, I lean more toward Harriet or Marrow. Clover is embarrassingly obvious. Such a red herring type. But, Harriet (And, Elm was in agreement which could also be suspect.) made a point to tell Ruby she didn't consider her teammates friends, and that it was basically all business (paraphrased). Ruby also bested Harriet during that scene showing off how strong and in sync the Ace Ops are. Harriet was the one that wasn't fast enough at the end of the day to be in perfect balance with her teammates. Her being nice to Ruby about it would be a great ploy to throw watcher's off her trail. Then, she has mostly faded into the background, drawing the watchers attention away from her. When it comes to the possibility of Marrow being a traitor, the fable his character is said to be derived from; The Dog & the Shadow, is possibly a clue to his wanting more and being fated to lose what he already has due to that. If there was a traitor, I still lean more toward Harriet, though. Marrow being a traitor goes against everything dogs are said to stand for: Loyalty, Man's Best Friend, etc. Granted, that could make it more interesting. I hope the traitor theory doesn't pan out, though. I don't want one of the Ace Ops to fall in battle or to be taken out, but I believe it could ultimately be much more impactful long-term and fitting to the unspoken rule of four if handled correctly. Anyway, this got extremely long! Love your videos & I wish you a Happy New Year!

[@FaeChangeling]

To be fair, Clover could just have respect for Ruby as a fellow team leader, and it makes more sense to mention her specifically since he was talking to Qrow, her uncle. I wouldn't really say it's suspicious he said she specifically was really something.

[@miker1647]

That and the fact he complimented her skill chapter 3 after she caught the dust crystal and she was the only one on the transport with them. She literally talked to Qrow a few moments before Clover spoked to Qrow.

[@KingTaltia]

I hope it's not Clover, the scenes with him and Qrow in the season thus far keep pinging me as oddly romantic, (though, mostly wholesome). And sure, LGBT couples are getting more common, even Ren and Nora's arguement implies they view Blake and Yang as having a relationship similar to their own, a semi-romantic one. But well, among LGBT couples in media, it's FAR FAR FAR more common to see two females together than it is two males.

[@kyutie3905]

Give my dude, Qrow a break man😭😭😭 it better not be Clover i swear

[@Radiosilenced]

Sadly yes male couple are extremely uncommon in media and even news.

[@chrisbeynon8700]

Happy new year Phoenix Night! All the best for you and your channel in 2020!

[@PhoenixNight]

Thanks so much, I really appreciate the support! I wish you all the best in 2020 as well! 😊

[@msk-qp6fn]

Am I the only one who keeps thinking of Clover from Totally Spies whenever you hear Clover's name in RWBY?

[@Mr_Wicked]

i just love how marrow screams STAY!! so brilliant

[@bruce4623]

No Traitor, they are all Angels! *(-:*

[@emanymton713]

BRUCE I don’t get why everyone is so sure there even is a traitor? Did the CRWBY say there is a traitor at RTX or a comic con or something? No one has done anything to warrant suspicion at all in the show. Ren’s semblance is masking emotion so his “danger sense” is likely just him picking up that there are new emotions around him. His semblance is evolving that’s part of the theme this season growing and changing.

[@bruce4623]

@@emanymton713 I think it's just the creation by RWBY Reactors... It's started by 1 (or more ) and they all watch each others reactions, so that's how the same rumor spreads across the Fandom and why RWBY reactors talk about it... And they need something to keep the interest up on their channel *It's just a theory* *(-:*

[@monarchberry1107]

Here's my theory: It's Clover. Not only because that character growth aspect Phoenix mentioned, but also because he seems like the"Felix" of RWBY (don't know how many of you have watched the Chorus Trilogy, or Red vs Blue at all, but anyways). He's a charismatic person who develops a close relationship with one of the main cast (in the case of RvB, Tucker, here it's Qrow), and has an even closer relationship with the "leader of the good guys" (Kimball/Ironwood). [And don't tell me that RT never did similar things in these shows, just think back to Locus and Felix and compare them to Emerald and Mercury.] That character growth thing for Qrow is another good thing. He might get hit by the betrayal hard, and then go after him personally (once again, like Tucker did to Felix at the end of Season 12). He might want to drink, but instead, refuse to, because he sees the people around him that love him and care, so he wouldn't drink, but rather go after Clover. So that's my theory.

[@xxgamerxx7076]

That's why he is so protective over her in the series and he probably feels he has to protect her because her mother died and he is the only one that can be with her.

[@KBH932]

Maybe there was only four members of the Ace Ops but whoever the traitor is (probably Clover) must have done something that caught Ironwood attention and got invited to join the group but what Ironwood didn’t know was maybe that this person is actually someone just getting information for Salem

[@freddie4327]

Clover being the traitor would also link with Qrow's sembalance. The one new friend he made turns out to be working for Salem? Sounds pretty unlucky to me.

[@EngineScypex]

His Semblance works around him, not on himself.

[@blindOni]

Here's my theory: Harriet is the outlier of all the Aesop Fables, because her tale is incomplete. The tortoise either is coming and has representation or someone is going to masquerade as it from Salem/Cinder/Watts 's faction and cause her to betray the team. The fact that the frog is missing from Tyrian's backstory/fable representation is a flag too and im thinking they might blend the two together

[@cinnakincat4260]

Frog? But yeah, it's harriet.

[@blindOni]

@@cinnakincat4260 Tryrian's fable is the scorpion and the frog.

[@cinnakincat4260]

@@blindOni I haven't heard of that one, I'll have to look it up!

[@raequincy8180]

From a narrative prospect, the traitor theory is highly plausible. My optimistic self is simply hoping that the Ace Ops use five members as a set-up for Clover to split away from the Ops to become a dynamic duo with Qrow.

[@stocking3298]

Marrow does not have night vision. In chapter 3 when they are securing the launch site in the abandoned dust mine, the Ace Ops want to see if there is dust behind a wall to determine if it’s safe to blast through. Marrow says to Blake, “Harriet found a gap in the rubble we think one of you could fit through. Ideally someone with a knack for seeing in the dark?” If Marrow had night vision he would just go through himself instead of asking Blake. It’s possible that he asked Blake because is too big to fit through the gap, but if that was the case, I don’t think he would have phrased it that way. He said it in a way that implied that Blake was the only one there with night vision. Edit: It’s true that Penny was glowing during the scene at the rally. So, it could be possible that he saw Tyrian’s shadow. But he could not have confirmed that with Clover when she asked, “Are you sure this is the man you saw?” because HE WAS NOT PRESENT AT THE MEETING. THE ONLY ACE OP THERE WAS CLOVER. The only reason Ruby could identify Tyrian was because she saw his tail before the lights went out. I am 99% sure that’s the reason no one besides her knew what the hell happened including Ren, Nora, and Marrow.

[@itsmefm]

I think in terms of surprise Marrow would be a good choice for traitor, but in terms of plot, Clover being the traitor would be have the most impact. I agree wholeheartedly that Qrow shouldn't be hurt ever again, not our boi.

[@blazingtorrent1344]

Maybe the reason Marrow didn't see what was going on was the sudden shift to darkness rather than gradual.

[@theunworthyrecruitajsdb]

So what about other faunus that were that might have been at Robyn's party? Also what about when they were in the mine and he told blake they needed someone who could see in the dark. I dont think he can. I dont think all faunus have night vision but it might be a dominant trait which means they dont all have to have it.

[@theunworthyrecruitajsdb]

Just more might than cant

[@emanymton713]

TheUnworthyRecruit AJSDB there didn’t seem to be any Faunus at her party outside of Fiona and marrow. And dogs don’t have good night vision really. Fiona as a sheep would have been able to see in the dark but her eyesight would be bad right up close.Tyrian came up behind her and struck when she turned around. She likely couldn’t tell what happened. The way Robyn phrased her talk with Marrow that she wants to help the citizens of atlas and mantle as well as the Faunus seems to suggest that Faunus aren’t considered citizens of Atlas and would likely not have been allowed to vote and as such wouldn’t necessarily have been at her rally. That could be why we don’t see any other Faunus in the crowd.

[@orbitcircle6025]

little did we know, clover wasn't the traitor... he was going to die.

[@xxgamerxx7076]

DUDE I JUST NOTICED THAT CROW HAS TWO RINGS WHICH INDICATES HE MARRIED 2 PEOPLE, ONE OF THEM COULD BE RUBY's MOM AND HE IS PROBABLY THE FATHER OF RWBY.

[@SheenaMalfoy]

Marrow CANNOT see in the dark, as per episode 3 of this Volume when they were liberating the SDC mine from the Geist. Remember when he went up to Blake and Weiss and gave that spiel about how society has been set up for the Faunus to be at the bottom? He also said something else important then: "hey we need someone to go scout out that dark cavern up ahead past the blockage... preferrably someone who can see in the dark?" Implying he doesn't have that ability. And indeed, it was Blake who had to go scout ahead. Why send the newbie if the seasoned veteran can do it instead? You don't. The reason Blake was sent was because Marrow can't see in the dark.

[@theunworthyrecruitajsdb]

I want to say Clover isn't either what would be the point of having the Good Luck Charm be away from Salem? It gives her enemy that Ironwood is a boost. I also dont understand how things could be going so bad for Ironwoods team considering that.

[@cookiemerrick224]

spoilerss watching this after the end of volume 7 hurts since clover died so its now a 4 person team

[@emilianomerendino3311]

So far i've see nothing in the Ace Ops that makes me think of a traitor( also because after the mess RT did with Lionheart, i'm not exactly thrilled about one), the missing chair could belong to the enemy CVFY and SSSN will face in the novels, and is probable Salem has even more minions. Regarding the part in episode seven, Clover was probably referring both to the kids and Marrow.

[@asuna5701]

Baby Marrow can never go wrong! He is a good boi!

[@frostyguy1989]

Here are the points I have against Clover, and they're damning. * The fable he's based on is the Fisherman, who mocks and tortures the fish he captures. * Related to the previous point - and the biggest red flag so far - is Tyrian's suspiciously censored report. It mentions that the pilot transporting him (Cornetto) is stated to have been injured, but not said to have died. A cornetto is a kind of good luck charm in Italian culture. It's possible that Cornetto changed his identity to Clover ( a good luck charm associated with the Irish) and swore allegiance to Salem to save himself. What's more, the huntsman who was in charge of Tyrian's case was named Pickerel - a species of fish. Tyrian may have killed him; or it could have been the Fisherman himself who did the deed. After all, Pickerel must have had a good grasp of Tyrian's capabilities to catch him, so having Clover kill him would have been smarter. Last thing: Tyrian and Clover are each based on one of Aesop's Fables, as are the rest of the Ace Operatives. This indicates that Tyrian may have been an Ace Op gone rogue (perhaps explaining the censored report) and that Clover and his team may know more about him than they let on. * Him questioning Qrow about Ruby. It's innocuous sounding to anyone not aware of Ruby's abilities. But we know the silver eyes have been hunted down virtually to extinction, and for some reason Salem wants Ruby alive. Clover may be trying to gather information on her in an attempt to capture her later on. * Then there's Jacque's dinner party. Clover is present with Ironwood during the meeting. For someone with a good luck semblence, it sure doesn't look like Ironwood and Co. are having a lucky break as Jacques effectively controls the whole conversation. We know Jacques is indirectly helping Salem through Watts, and the Volume 7 intro hints that Watts is manipulating the Ace Ops in some way. It isn't much of a stretch to think that Clover was using his semblence to help Jacques rather than Ironwood. * Not really evidence in the show, but something that I notice generally in stories. Usually the villains get the stronger powers and better control over them, while the heroes are more likely to struggle to control their own powers or use them effectively. Qrow has been dealt one hell of a crappy hand with an uncontrollable semblence that doesn't discriminate in who it affects. This has partly led him to blame himself for all the misery inflicted to his friends, family and himself, and feels he has to be alone. Clover appears to have full control over his semblence, which is good luck. He doesn't struggle, there's no obvious downside, he outright *benefits* from this broken semblence. And if I'm right about him being Cornetto, this is what saved him from certain death by Salem - who personally freed Tyrian - who saw how dead useful a lucky charm could be.

[@alexkindberg2505]

Okay, my theory was that Marrow was the traitor. But your first paragraph has now changed my mind!!!

[@miker1647]

I think you might be reaching a little bit. I think you got the wrong fable. Clover’s fable is a Fisherman’s Good Luck. You know how perseverance wins and the same fisherman who alluded in volume 6’s song “Big Metal Shoe”. The huntsman was named F. Pickerel as in pickerel frog which is associated with Tyrian’s fable The Scorpian and the Frog.

[@EngineScypex]

* I don't know the fable. And even if that's the right fable (a comment above doubted that) mocking your pray don't make you a traitor. * Taking someone who's not even clear to be alive and change his identity just because of the name is a bit much. * Grimm are the known threat in Remnant and even if you put Salem on the table they're still not harmless. ** If he knows about her (and in general about) silver eyes, it would be more then obvious. At the moment, Ruby - when she's able to control her eyes completely - is one of the best huntresses if it comes to defeating Grimm. The only people we could guess who can compare would be other people with silver eyes and maidens. ** If he don't know about her silver eyes it's still not really a problem. As he said, Ruby is a one-of-a-kind-person. It's not just her silver eyes. * What exactly is luck to you? That Jacque controls the conversation has nothing to do with good or bad luck, just with facts. Luck doesn't make your "enemy" don't play his cards, unless he bite his tounge from excitement and dies right before he can play them... Wait, what? Conveniently Weiss came with the evidence against Jacque right when Ironwood was about to lose the battle. Talking about luck! ** Also I don't think the way the good/bad Luck semblance works is quite right. We know that Qrow can't control his semblence to only bring misfortune to his enemys. Since I highly doubt that their semblences work differently or that Clover is on a much bigger level than Qrow he would bring everyone around him luck. * Like you said: Clover don't have the downside of bringing bad luck to his comrades, so obviously there's no reason for him to struggle with that. Yes, it could be annoying to bring good luck to your enemy while fighting him, but that's nothing compared to bring missfortune to both, enemys and friends.

[@cjck1344]

guys _vines has been awfully quiet_

[@johnsmith5922]

Well I'd say it's not Marrow for many of the reasons you pointed out. But I actually believe Marrow can't see in the dark. In chapter two when he spoke to Blake about that very fact. It felt sort of implied that he couldn't. As for the missing seats for Salem. Tock is dead. Dead and gone. Maria decapitated her and it was a good 40-50 years ago. I mean maybe if the croc lifespan tied to Tock as at faunus then maybe.. Marrow seems to be picked on as the newbie. Clearly he is younger and treated as a child by them and likely joined the ace ops relatively recently. More for his semblance than anything since his immaturity is looked down upon by even Ironwood. The other four have likely been together a lot longer. And I am almost certain vine and elm share the same fable. Both from the Renora parallels and the subtle connetion they seem to have right down to the similar semblances. They were likely partners. Clover meanwhile I think was Robyn's partner. Though it's certainly possible she was on a team with the rest of the happy Huntresses. They were at least close to some degree otherwise. If Clover is indeed a traitor. Then I wonder what his end game is. Salem gets her pawns by manipulating some insecurity in them. Watts and his pride. Hazel and his wrath. Cinder as her greed. Tyrian and his lust. If Clover does serve her. Then it may tie back to something else. The lucky fisherman is a story of patience. Maybe he has played the long game to earn trust. Or maybe he has a dark side that was manipulated by Salem when his luck fell more in line with what he sees as the winning side.

[@redhead_bebs]

I still think Qrow LOVES Clover... So... If Clover betrays them, he better realize his mistake and redeem himself.

[@Venneroth]

It's more likely the Ace Ops have five people to reflect Ironwood's mind. He's not interested in abiding by conventions when it lacks pragmatism. If he thinks mechs are a useful and expendable alternative to living soldiers, he'll use mechs. If he thinks railroading the winter maiden's inheritance will secure it for his goals, he'll manipulate the maiden. If he thinks a five man team is more effective than four, he'll have a five man team. If he can't find such a team, because they're all teams of four, he'll create one. They don't need to be friends, just like the winter maiden power doesn't need to pass naturally and his forces don't need to be alive. Edit: I'm not saying he's right. I honestly can't tell how idealistic/cynical the RWBY world really is, and therefore what outlook is rewarded. I'm not sure the writers even know.

[@moisesfavela2189]

Remember RvB Chorus Trilogy... We all thought the same of Felix

[@Covenfan-lg4mx]

Please god don’t let it be Clover I want fairgame more than anything in this world

[@Ch4m3nggg]

Well they’re a team of four now... 😂🤣 okay that was hella rude but it’s the truth. RIP Clover

[@gachafary9313]

Finally someone who has the same theories as me😂

[@dr.quinnzel7284]

loooooook look look I don't actually see why we need to have another traitor. Watts has enough access that adding in a traitor would be unnessesary. As for Cinder she already has Neo who can blend in any kind of environment making her a perfect spy. Adding in a traitor actually weakens the villains intimidation factor for me. I think if there has to be a traitor the best option would be Penny. If let's say Watts was able to hack into Penny it would make him more intimidating than less. If it's revealed that Penny is a traitor everyone is gonna question her humainity because it's specifically because she's a robot that she was able to betray RWBY & co. Maybe when Watts tried to hack her he had to manipulate her into letting him control her because her robot body could has systems against those kinds of threat (because she was made by Pietro not Watts) and instead he had to manipulate her emotionally instead. That is proof of Penny's humanity. What if everyone is split on how to deal with Penny when they find out. Maybe some want to deactivate her, maybe some wants to separate her soul form her robot body. maybe some still think they could save her. I find this way more intresting than having one of the ace ops be the traitor.

[@fandomuser2477]

Great, this is like the bnha traitor theory all over again

[@tyren1854]

Highkey, episode six was terrible canonical wise. People who devoted their lives to becoming huntsman freeze in the sudden vacuum of darkness and screams. Something they should definitely be prepared for. Robyn as a world-class hunter standing in the SAME PLACE throughout the attack. Ruby ducking for cover when she faced a humongous Leviathan grim. Salem will definitely have no trouble if all she has to do to defeat them is kill the lights...

[@Dingsmann]

Id theorized that the Ace-Ops are the result of an uneven application at the Academy(Would explain what the F. they would do if the number of students doesent add up to be devidable by 4) Or are pickup team that resulted of the dissolvance of two or more teams Like team STRQ or where invited to leave the team to join (maybe a different training?) and as stated by Clover where picked to form a new team to fit best to each other. Edit: Rewatched the show and corrected a few mistakes Also spelling Also in the episode Ace operatives mellow aces Blake to check the tunnel as she has night vision implying that he doesn't Also also I noticed the comment is a bit off topic so here: I don't think the Ace operatives have a traitor as they A:where hand picked、probably by Ironwood himself and B: are filled in on everything and thus know apparantly are trusted by Ironwood who is probably the most paranoid person in the show C: they seem to be very loyal to atlas and Ironwood and seem unlikely to me to only play a part. Mostly.

[@rashan141]

I honestly hope it's not Marrow, he's the GOODIEST BOI! Being perfectly honest though? I think it's Clover or Harriet. Now, I don't think it's Harriet because of what she said but because she seems like the only one of the group who doesn't... fit. I don't know why I feel like this but it seems that way. She seems isolated from their group dynamic.

[@GuySquared11]

THAT HAIR THOUGH! (You look quite professional... is this just me?)

[@PhoenixNight]

Thank you! I'm glad you think it's professional, I started a new job so hopefully they think I look that way as well 😂

[@keziahntinu9562]

If there’s a traitor in the Ace Ops I think we can rule out elm and vine. I don’t know why but I think it can’t be those two. My money is on Clover it just makes more sense.

[@percivallavoie4415]

I don't want my Lucky Charms to split up 😭😭

[@noname-rj7dx]

No >:O I need Clover to be Qrows boyfriend. Of course it's also completely fine if they are straight dude bros. I just want happy things for Qrow.

[@thispotatobelieves727]

Fiona Thyme also didn't see (or at least failed to mention) Tyrian in ep 6, which I thought was interesting but also quite unfortunate.

[@christophercarlile4073]

Domesticated dogs have awful eye sight. Wild canines have the adaption of good eye sight. Sorry dude.

[@cinnakincat4260]

That makes a lot of sense!

[@PhoenixNight]

True but we don't know what type of dog Marrow is based on. His Fable is a domesticated dog but Rooster Teeth could have changed it to be a Wolf to fit in with the theme of 'Big Bad Wolf' which could fit with the traitor theory as well

[@cinnakincat4260]

@@PhoenixNight True, true.

[@wizwiz2133]

Let’s not forget ten had the white background when meditating I’m guessing meaning danger because it happened in chapter 1, and right have the white background went away and then was interrupted clover and ironwood walked in.

[@SimonPetrikov12]

It's never the person you most expect or least expect, it's who you most medium suspect.

[@Degamer422]

Here’s the thing about the Faunus I think it only applies to ones who have yellow eyes. Because remember in the cave they needed a person with night vision and they didn’t pick marrow. And he has blue eyes.

[@ml5347]

I was suspicious of Marrow from nearly the beginning because of how he's always picked on or laughed at by the other Ace Ops. Elm tells him his brains are a liability; Harriet says he needs baby sitting; etc. Even Ironwood tells Clover not to take Marrow down to Mantel with the rest of the team after the Mantel murders implying Marrow is too gung ho or hyper or something I guess. It felt to me like Marrow wasn't a traitor yet, but they were setting up Marrow to have a reason to become a traitor. Still, after the events at Robyn's victory party, it didn't feel to me like Marrow was acting the traitor at all. If he is going to turn traitor, he's not a traitor yet, and he seemed very sincere when he tried to assure Robyn that, "This wasn't us." I don't think he will turn traitor at all. As for the seeing in the dark thing, sheep also have good night vision, so... maybe RT just forgot? As far as the debriefing of Ruby about Tyrian rather than Marrow, for all we know, Marrow was asked the same question, but whether sheep or dogs or Marrow or Fiona all have night vision or not, we don't really know what sheep/dog/faunus night vision is like, just like people with normal vision don't really know what it's like to be color blind. What Tyrian looked like in the dark may be quite different from how a lit photograph looks. Ruby probably got a better view of Tyrian than Marrow, especially when it comes to comparing with a picture, especially since this wasn't the first time she's seen him. This is the same reason we didn't see Penny shown the lit photograph. Regarding the Ace Ops having 5 team members, I had initially assumed that maybe they were pulled from at 2 teams, with Clover, Elm, and Vine being one on team, and Harriet and Marrow being on another team, either because team members died or just weren't capable or didn't want to be part of the Ace Ops, or maybe the Ace Ops were initially two teams but lost three members after becoming the Ace Ops. I hadn't realized that there was an Aesop's Fable named _The Elm and the Vine_ and possibly other fables as well that fit the other members of the Ace Ops (it looks like there's several fables that are about a dog). I'm not sure I like my two teams theory anymore. But I don't think there necessarily needs to be a reason why there are 5 instead of 4. They certainly aren't in school anymore. They're bonafied huntsmen and even the members of teams RWBY and JNR are getting split up and sent on different missions now that they've been awarded hunters licenses. The fact that the Ace Ops don't consider themselves as a group of BFF's is just further evidence that they probably aren't part of the same school teams. Since Elm and Vine are probably named after one of Aesop's Fables instead of the fact that elm trees and vines are both types of vegetation, there isn't any good evidence that even those two were on the same school team. In Aesop's fables, the elm and the vine seem to need each other, so it doesn't make sense that only one of Elm and Vine would be the traitor, and even if they were, it doesn't really seem that exciting if they were. These two aren't traitors. Similarly, I don't see Clover becoming a traitor either. There's just now reason for him to need to be one and he doesn't have it in him, and really he wouldn't be a very exciting traitor story-wise if he was one. As I already said, Marrow definitely isn't a traitor right now, but I don't think he will become one either, not with Jaune giving him a coffee every morning meeting. This leaves Harriet. And unlike the other four, I think Harriet might actually make things exciting if she turned traitor, if for no other reason than her speed contrasted with Ruby's. But still, I don't see it happening. There's no logical reason for it. The real reason there are 5 Ace Ops is so they can all directly correlate with the four members of team RNJR and Crow (Ruby~Harriet, Nora~Elm, Jaune~Marrow, Ren~Vine, Crow~Clover). As for Crow's sobering up and settling down, I think it's possible story-wise that he needs to change this way so that he'll be able to be Prince Charming when the kids get to Shade. Furthermore, I suspect as the story progresses, Crow will find that if he has a positive attitude, his semblance will actually start giving good luck like Clover's. I kind of think Crow already suspects this himself. As for Crow's unfortunately not talking as much as he used to, I think that's just because of the change in voice actors.

[@veggiesnake619]

It sort of annoys me when people say 'Marrow must be a traitor because he has night vision and would have seen Tyrian'. I understand their argument, but there's just too many holes when you think about it in-depth. It is stated that _many_ Faunus have night vision, not _all_ so it's possible Marrow just doesn't have night vision. Note that Fiona, another Faunus who may or may not have night vision, was there at Tyrian's massacre, but even she didn't see him. I doubt that's she's a traitor as well, because Tyrian almost killed her. Due to Fiona's injury, Robyn became incredibly hostile, so even if Marrow had seen Tyrian, as is said in the video, Robyn wouldn't trust him; she suspects he and Penny are responsible, so she wouldn't immediately accept the convenient excuse of returned mass-murderer anyway. Furthermore, suppose Marrow does have night vision and did see Tyrian-what exactly was he supposed to do? Fire into a crowd of civilians? Throw a chainsaw-boomerang at them? Penny didn't engage Tyrian for the same reason, even though she had seen him-there were civilians in harm's way. Suppose, therefore, that when Marrow said 'This wasn't us, I swear', _that_ was him revealing that he had seen Tyrian-but Marrow probably has no idea who Tyrian is. As for why he wasn't at Clover's debrief-Ruby saw Tyrian's face, and had met him previously. Marrow did not, and has never met him, so his addition of 'a scorpion Faunus' wouldn't have helped the investigation. Qrow would have been more useful due to his similar history with Tyrian, which is why he was there and Marrow wasn't.

[@fernandoruizperales1061]

I have a theory about the end of the volume (i'm asuming you've seen the preview of ep 9): In the end, the great grimm army is destroyed, the winter maiden's power are safe and Watts and Tyrian are defeated and/or dead. But all of this comes with a price. Qrow end up terribly wounded with few to none chances to survive (for protecting Robyn, the new winter maiden or fighting the grimm army) and he needs to stay in Atlas, so the team have to go to Vacuo without him. This could be a great impact to the entire group. We could see how Ruby and Yang deal with It.

[@rosemoxam2642]

It could also be that in school, there was an odd person out, making a team of 5

[@lordmandalorex3620]

I've had this idea since ep2 or 3. That Clover is the perfect spy for Salem

[@Cyrinil142]

Since Clover's been introduced, it has seemed that most talk of his semblance has revolved around how it can make Qrow's life easier. I think at the end of the day, the really salient fact will be that when Clover turns out to be bad, Qrow's semblance is the only real way to counter what is probably Clover's biggest advantage.

[@lemonkatze7461]

i changed my mind, i have another thing idisagree with. when they went in the mine, he wasnt chosen to go through the crack, blake was, despite being more experienced then her. they didnt want to even work with team rwby so why send blake in is marrow could do it?

[@DocMicrowave]

With all the effort put into building a team he could have absolute trust in. It seems like he needs to trust someone he would rather not trust to help him cut through this mire of possible traitors. I am speaking of Robin, who just so happens to have a semblance that can be handy (see what I did there) with screening people for trustworthiness. Imagine if they can bury the hatchet and Robin decides to join Ironwood in his inner circle (after some concessions of course) to help him weed out people he can't trust and have been deceiving him. Of course, I should add that such a screening process would not bode well for Team RWBY (and their associates) considering the rather significant Secrets they are all hiding. Yang (and now Weiss) in particular. A simple handshake from Robin followed by "Is there anything you are intentionally keeping from the General". Based on the results, you can proceed from there. As I said from the beginning, better for Ruby to have told James before he finds out some other way.

[@DocMicrowave]

I too thought Clover might be the traitor as well early on. But since recent episodes, I am leaning more towards Marrow. For a couple of reason. 1-Seems mostly predators have night vision. Marrow should have been of more use than he was at the massacre. 2-Marrow is second to Clover in terms of screen time. 3-Seems he did not expect, and did not want Ruby around. Especially if he knew something was going down. He should have accepted the extra help if she offered it instead of telling her to leave. 3-Clover was really starting to look like low hanging fruit. And RT has has a history of setting misdirecting clues in the past. (Raven/Vernal - Spring!) They could be shooting for a big plot twist/reveal. Stoking the idea that it might be Clover when in reality it is a different AceOp team member. A couple of loose threads that I feel need to be addressed though would be: 1-If Marrow is a traitor, where does his allegiance lay. Salem? Or perhaps some Faunus rebel underground that is fighting everyone for recognition. (He certainly didn't seem supportive of Robin). Despite being on the AceOps, he definitely has heavy concerns on the plight of the Faunus. I am thinking his working to get into Ironwood's inner circle is similar to Raven going to Beacon undercover when her true allegiance was with her tribe. Could be even worse....... he's with the Atlas chapter of the White Fang. 2-What exactly is up with Ren?? I thought his semblance of sensing...... something... was caused by Clover since it went off when ever Clover came into an area where he was. If Clover is not a traitor, what exactly is going on with Ren.

[@iceluvndiva21]

I'd definitely see it these two but I like the possiblity for herriet. I mean we don't see her much but what we did see? She's competitive to a fault, she's proud, and based on this line? "I've seen a lot of speed semblances. I think there might be more going on" she, like tock, might have been working for Salem. Why? To prove she's the best. Also... "They're not supposed to know about the silver eyes"". And yet, ironwood blabbed to winter, Penny, and the ac-ops about the relics, Salem, and maidens. Soooo yeah.. Kinda throws that line out the window

[@blueblade6174]

Ranking in most likeliness to be a traitor, I would put it as: 5. Elm 4. Marrow (aka not Wesley Wolfinhiemer) 3. Vine 2. Harriet 1. Clover

[@PhoenixNight]

Harriet at Number 2 is interesting, I definitely can see it especially after who she is paired with at the end of the most recent episode

[@CJ-vd6po]

You could be right, but I'm wondering if the teams the ace ops came from are like teams rwby and jnpr. At various times in the series these teams worked together, even after one of their members died. For the ace ops, this means that at least three members of their old teams are dead. Of course, they don't seem as close to each other as either rwby or jnpr. That might be because they've been working together for longer and have lost trust in each other. If we're somehow both right, then maybe at least one of them blames one of the others for all of their dead members.

[@dailydoseofdj1937]

If you remember this season marrow ask Blake to go through the hole in the cave somebody that has a nack for night vision I feel like it’s not him but he still not out of the water cause he was security for Robyn hill and did nothing and didn’t do anything until it was to late

[@joshthomas-moore2656]

Personally i feel their is nothing substantial to back up the idea of traitor i think the whole Lion-heart being a traitor has got people looking a bit to much into this idea then needed

[@EngineScypex]

Agreed, especially now that we know who the "traitor with insider knowlege" is.

[@Salemwaaa]

We gotta go SVU levels of thinking to find the traitor But I think that Marrow could be the one like he’s putting on a front of being the noob of the ace ops but he’s equal to Qrow or even stronger. But the reason he could be a traitor is that he could be blackmailed into being loyal to Salem or he’s pulling a Double Trouble from She-ra and is serving the winning side for now but will betray her in the end.

[@Drakerai]

Merrow probably...doesn't have night vision, I would say this siting when they were in the mines and merrow suggests 'someone who can see in the dark' so either its a 'chance to prove yourself#' moment thing or merrow doesn't have the nightvision improvement

[@mariapazgonzalezlesme]

So question, if any of the Ace Ops could be the POSSIBLE reasons would be the traitor?

[@scriibles]

I really want it to NOT be Qrow’s boyfriend but it makes sense TwT

[@scriibles]

SHISN0 GAMING Wat

[@scriibles]

SHISN0 GAMING It’s not for sure so I’m just saying

[@scriibles]

SHISN0 GAMING Excuse me I am non-binary

[@scriibles]

SHISN0 GAMING You called me a man

[@scriibles]

SHISN0 GAMING This went from a 2 to a 10 real fast

[@rodneyware4245]

i think marrow might get killed do to disagreeing to one of the ace ops if he founds out that one of the members are being a bit sketchy or maybe let say he already knows the back stabbing plan , maybe he will act to carry out a segment the plan alone by himself yet he reconsiders and tells Ruby and the gang about the real plan and then they go against the rest of the ace ops yet somehow marrow dies . im not sure it was just a thought but regardless dude great theory

[@caseyspark2019]

Marrow is also based on the fable of the Dog and its Reflection. Which is based on a dog who drowns in a river and loses a piece of meat by attacking his reflection. The moral being it's not always greener on the other side. Just a thought.

[@erictennison4673]

Well happy new year

[@Silas_Qrow]

Please Marrow dont be the traitor he is my favorit character

[@adelheidbreidvik]

To me Clover talking about Ruby came of as, trying to complinent Qrow, as he trained her. Like hi you did a good job, she clearly takes after you

[@mr.r3z228]

me sitting here like doggo's got no night vision, but they have better sight in low light.

[@Nissim1795]

It would kind make me sad, but good-luck-having Clover being an evil foil for bad-luck-having Qrow would be tasty

[@reds3a374]

Yeah, Marrow is most likely wanting to escape. Seeing the rest of the three not turning back, I doubt Elm, Vine and Harriet would budge.

[@girl9046]

Vol 7 ep 3 they had Blake go through a tiny hole to see if there was dust they picked Blake because Marrow can’t see in the dark he even says it himself “someone with an Act of seeing in the dark” so it might not be marrow!

[@guicaldo7164]

4:28 Yeah that doesn't seem physically possible!

[@bravobird9435]

Marrow obviously can't see well in the dark, that's why he refered to Blake being able to see in the dark

[@brycehopkins7284]

I love your new haircut

[@PhoenixNight]

Thank you!

[@michaeltorres7564]

I was looking at pictures of Toc and Harriet and they share a striking resemblance.Toc’s semblance gives her invulnerability for 60 seconds and I found it funny how Harriet’s speed semblance can allow her to be “untouchable” !!!!

[@msk-qp6fn]

I personally feel like Harriet and Elm are the least likely to be traitors because they're most open and okay about the fact that the Ace Op. isn't a groups of friends. But they, I may be wrong but I don't think them being a traitor will have that big of an affect on us because we didn't get to get fond of the characters much. In the writing aspect, Clover is probably the most likely to be the traitor, or at least the mole. Or maybe he's actually a sleeping agent. Him being a traitor will actually be a great chance to show Qrow develop like Phoenix says. I think this might also be a good chance for Ruby to shine if done right. As many would agree, Marrow also has a good chance of being the traitor. He'll mostly make use viewers be UMMMPh and hurt straight at the kokoro

[@Selcryn]

I think its either one traitor or all are traitors, although all but one being traitors is also a possibility I can see. To be honest, the only one who *doesn't* set off my "This person isn't on the up and up" alarms is Marrow. But Clover is definitely someone I don't trust. And, from a literary perspective, I think it appropriate, at least as relates to Qrow; since it would simply fit in with Qrow's bad luck to find a compatriot who is extremely unlikely to be harmed by his semblance but is secretly an enemy. As for the others, all except Marrow just... they seem a little sketch to me. Admittedly, its just a gut feeling... but I've had a pretty decent track record of picking out secret villains in movies and shows (though I will admit I could just be "counting the hits and forgetting the misses")