Flamma - FS22 EKOVERB Reverb + Delay - In-depth Ambient Demo

[@TheScreamingFrog916]

Just got my FS22 today, and I love it. Also got the Flamma FS05 Modulation pedal. Great combo. On holiday sale at WALMART, with free two day shipping. FS22 = $80, and FS05 = $60. Here are a few early observations on the FS22... First of all, it sounds amazing. All 3 programs are as described, with no background noise. With the Level controls turned fully clockwise, you still hear the direct input signal. It does not turn down the input, it only adds delay/reverb to the signal. Therefore I would not normally use this, in an effects send/return path in a mixer. It is better used in front of a mono/stereo amp, or in an guitar amp effects loop. Position 1 Reverse delay, has no highs rolled off on the repeats, with the tone control placed after the delays, not in series with the feedback. The other two delays have the tone rolled off on the repeats, so as they repeat they get more rolled off, with each repeat. The reverb and delay, run in parallel, not series. In other words, the reverb does not go through the delay, and the delay does not go through the reverb. They both go directly to the stereo outs. It is true stereo, meaning, there are two separate mono effects, with no cross talk between the left and right signals. Left input goes to left output, and right input goes to right output. Unless you only plug something into the left (mono) input, in which case it goes to both L+R outputs. You can plug a mono input to the Left input, then patch the left output into the right input, and take the right output to your amp. This runs your input signal, through two copies of the Delay and reverb, in mono. Like having two mono pedals in series. Be careful with your amps volume control, because this setup can get intense and go into feedback, if your delay feedback is turned up high. Quick note about the FS05 Modulation pedal.....it is easily the best modulation pedal I have ever played through.

[@Jazzreden]

Can I turn off the delay? Or is it always on and cannot be turn off? Sorry about the horrible question I'm a beginner in using pedals

[@TheScreamingFrog916]

@@Jazzreden the delay and reverb can be turned up/down separately. You can use either the delay or reverb separately without the other, if you want.

[@pogoism1]

best reverb echo combo pedal i have listened to so far. nice chord progressions in the reverse mode part :)

[@RyanLutton]

Thanks :) its a great pedal! very cool from such a new company

[@pogoism1]

@@RyanLutton What you still recommend it? Got some money to spend. Also can you use the reverb alone? I have neither a reverb or delay right? Any other suggestions in the lower price range?

[@jamesculley845]

@@pogoism1 ~ You can turn down the “Level” of either effect to silence it.

[@johnl.6930]

Just got this amazing pedal. Thanks for your clear outline and beautiful playing! Can’t wait to dive in!✌️❤️

[@JMal883]

Had I not seen this demo I would have missed out on a great pedal. Thanks so much for the in depth demo.

[@artemdemidov2874]

Thank you for ambient demo of this fenomenal pedal. Just ordered one of this

[@sarangidotpk]

Beautiful playing! Also, I'm returning a Walrus Audio Slo pedal (that I ordered a day before I discovered your video) as soon as it arrives and ordering this right away! Thanks for demoing all the settings. The reverse delay is a particularly pleasant surprise - I would never have thought of it being so usable and good. Wow!

[@RyanLutton]

I have to admit I was pretty shocked! I love the sort of sampled kinda sounds you can get with it, really cool :) I hope you enjoy it! thank you for the comment :)

[@ikesours6558]

I think you're making a good call. I can't stand when those mid-tier pedals, despite sounding great, are limited to mono. A cheaper pedal with stereo just makes more sense to me. This still gives a lot of those ambient/shoegaze feels that pedals like Slö gives anyway. My Ekoverb is on the way and looking forward to it. Cheers!

[@sarangidotpk]

@@ikesours6558 I'm loving mine. Very usable reverse delay, even as always-on on low settings. The tone knobs are very useful and the pre-delay on reverb lets me set the reverb depth anywhere I want while retaining note clarity. Quite a unique delay-reverb combo! As for Slö, I had read there's quite a bit of hiss and also heard it in one of the demos. Only thing about Ekoverb is that it requires an isolated powersupply and will buzz if put on a daisy chain with other pedals.

[@ikesours6558]

@@sarangidotpk Glad to hear. I don't let the noises bother me too much. In post, I reach a medium comp before cleaning up with noise reduction, silencing and fades. There's always a tiny bit of noisy artifact that's typically lost amidst the mix. Just don't overcomp/limit too much or it'll be there haunting you for eternity, haha!

[@alphanumeric1529]

@@sarangidotpk A lot of digital pedals are this way, I've found.

[@TheScreamingFrog916]

Nice demo. I like the text describing how the controls work.

[@JonathanKillstring]

Oh gosh, I want to be lulled off to sleep by this. Mean that in the best way possible.

[@RyanLutton]

hahah thanks! maybe I need to make a pedal demo album..

[@cheenu711]

i was considering keeley caverns but this thing has tap and stereo. When I saw the price I was just stunned. Might just get this guy.

[@cgonzt5636]

How was it? Did you get it?No regrets? Thanks

[@youtubewatcher3467]

Did you finally bought it? Any comment?

[@compucorder64]

You might know this already, but just in case, for LED flickering, there's settings on some modern cameras like Panasonics that you can experiment with changing to improve it. For example with recent Panasonics it's called Synchro Scan, on Canon Cinema cameras it's called Clear Scan. Because if you are filming these types of devices with variable colour LEDs that are probably under PWM control you will see strobing/flickering. These lights can appear to flicker so much, because they flicker much faster than 25-30 times a second and at odd intervals (like 181Hz). How you might be able to imrove this will depend on your camera. Points in Focus has a helpful KZbin video titled: Dealing with Flicker in Video (Flicker Free Shutter Speeds).

[@ConditionZero76]

The lights your referring to on the FS22 flicker all the time, what you see in this video is what you see in person

[@compucorder64]

@@ConditionZero76It doesn't flicker on my FS-2, or FS-3. Unless you mean the tap/tempo pulsing. It's not that flickering I meant, it's the strobing effect you get when a digitally controlled LED is not in sync with a video camera's frame rate. Then you get a strobing effect, like you see on this video.

[@pedraportuguesavoltou3780]

Hello. I don't know about the three way conecction you did for the stereo delay but can I only connect it normally in the in and out hook ups with my cables, I mean, regular connection??? Thanks

[@RyanLutton]

Yes :) you can use the pedal in mono, stereo or to split a mono signal to stereo (like this video.) The mono inputs/outputs are labelled on the side of the pedal

[@1t183]

Oh wow I'm glad I stumbled upon this video. Pedal sounds really really good and great job on the demo! One question, what kind of cables are you using? It's a good looking setup.

[@RyanLutton]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it! :) I use planet waves cables mainly

[@jdawe390]

great demo! the manual is not very clear. does the tone knob cut low frequencies at max? or does it just for attenuating high frequencies?

[@jeffrobodeenyehcmon5925]

Can you get the same effects without having to plug in a bypass cable? And plug it in to where? Another cabinet or amp? Does it give you the same effects just direct placed in your pedal board chain?

[@RusteyBenitez]

Can you still use the freeze function even if the pedal is in bypass mode? Can you also set the tap tempo even if the pedal is in bypass?

[@jesusaguilera3803]

Amazing demo video of been looking at this pedal for a while! Out of curiosity, would you happen to know if in the circuitry the delay comes first then the reverb or the other way around?

[@TheScreamingFrog916]

Neither, they are in parallel. Both go straight to the output, without going through each other.

[@IntiAlonso]

Can it go 100% wet? Killing the dry signal? For use in a mixer FX send.

[@fiatluxmequi3227]

Hello Ryan! does this still self oscillates in analog mode? I would like to know. Thanks a lot.

[@-rubbersoul-]

as far i m concerned the same system was made by harmonix with its deluxe m man w/hazaray

[@reneraymond7807]

Fantastic!

[@artemdemidov2874]

It is a pity that you can not adjust the depth and frequency of modulation

[@alexmedina4405]

First, love your content bro ❤️

[@RyanLutton]

Thanks Alex :)

[@alphanumeric1529]

Second?

[@Jestersage]

How is the sound quality when compared to nux's stuff?

[@KTGHATS]

Which way should the pre delay be set for a typical, always-on reverb? Pre delays always confused me.

[@RyanLutton]

I would usually have pre-delay on a very low setting or even off! if I was going for a more casual reverb sound :) very long pre-delay can sound a bit strange and more delay like

[@KTGHATS]

@@RyanLutton thank you

[@FETeching]

Hi, I saw your question and remembered struggling with it for a long time when I first started seriously using reverbs for mixing. My advice is to think about reverb as space emulation. I'm sure you already know that reverb simulates the sound of a 3D space, so it is useful to think of it this way. Your predelay setting can be thought of as the distance the reflections have to travel before they get back to your ear. So if you imagine the space you want to recreate, that can help you figure out how much predelay to dial in. If you're simulating a medium sized room, 4-10ms is plenty. If you're simulating elven mountains in space, well that doesn't sound like anything real so it doesn't matter, set it where you like it. There's really only a "right" way to do it if you're trying to faithfully recreate a space. Otherwise, just trust your ears.

[@thatssomething1]

Do does putting the level knob all the way down on the delay side cut of the whole delay function? I assume so

[@russellcrea9701]

Either effect can be all the way off

[@Mr.Steve-O]

This pedal looks and sounds great, what pedal is this based on ?

[@sethorea5117]

Can you do a dotted 8 delay with this pedal?

[@KTGHATS]

I don’t think so.

[@cheenu711]

it has tap tempo so you can but it's not with a switch or toggle, you just tap in a dotted 8th pattern.

[@rutiger6901]

You have cables coming out of BOTH the Mono and stereo input jacks of the pedal. Far as I know only one of these 2 jacks can plug into amplifier at a time. But are both of these jacks plugged into 2 separate amps? Or what's going on with that??

[@kylemitchell6866]

If you had to choose between this or the NUX Atlantic??? Anyone?

[@compucorder64]

If you've not already made a decision a big decider would be the NUX Atlantic is only mono input. So go with the Flamma, if you are using, or ever plan to use, a stereo effect before it that's a limitation of the NUX (Boss CE or Dimension Waza, TC Electronic SCF+). The NUX case is a bit tougher, metal vs Flamma's more medium-weight plastic. The algorithms you'ld probably have to decide for yourself but they are both actually good, and not just for the price. On the NUX you have to hold down the footswitch to sustain the shimmer effect, which is worth bearing in mind.

[@jayvsson]

Is this significantly better than the pockverb from your opinion?

[@RyanLutton]

depends what kind of player you are :) for ambient style playing they're both incredible for value.. the Pockverb has more options sonically so if you're interested in many styles that might win.. but I think most people would be happy with either :)

[@ld8341]

Pretty sure the Pockverb is mono only. A closer comparison might be the Nux Atlantic. smile.amazon.co.uk/NUX-Atlantic-Delay-Reverb-Pedal/dp/B07FRH4XZ3/

[@thefinadians]

@@RyanLutton What did you like more, ekoverb or flamma's stereo reverb?

[@alphanumeric1529]

@Mee Omi Not Ryan here, and not an MS-70 user, AND never used a flamma, but I'm on the horns between buying the Flamma delay and the reverb or just getting the EkoVerb... BUT... I do use a Zoom CDR-70 (I think is the number). It's got Chorus, Reverb and Delay... and also quite a few other effects, and it can be hacked, and the Zoom multipedal that is dedicated to amps and distortion, forget what it is called, can be loaded in the the CDR. That's hacking though, so don't do it. But, in terms of the Zoom CDR... it has a lot in it, and like I said, other stuff, so like compressors, gates, flangers, phasers, and a bunch of tools. I actually use the "Dirty Gate" patch with an insane fuzz that I have to create the Way Huge Conquistador, broken fuzz sound. Problem with multipedals like the Zoom CDR is they have too many functions, and not enough controls. So, if you set up a patch with delay, reverb, chorus and a compressor, in a live situation maybe the verse section of the song, you want to turn on the delay and in the chorus section you want to turn off the delay and turn on the reverb. Forget about it! The only thing you can do is go forwards between patches, so go from a patch with the delay on and reverb off, then switch to the patch with the delay off and the reverb on... I've never done this though, and I'd imagine your tails wouldn't work, and there might be a break in sound from your guitar as one patch is unloaded and the next is loaded... maybe. Again, I haven't done it. So, the CDR is good for designing static patches. Like, you'll use that whole patch for a section of a song, and you turn it on in section A and off for section B. That's the best you can do, unless you want to play live, and get on your knees and scroll left and right through your effect chain, and turn on and off individual fx. Now to the sound quality... I can't get a really sweet, super long reverb tail out of the CDR. I don't think the pedal is great for ambient. I mean, I'm sure a lot of people use it for this purpose, I have, and I've argued online that it can be used for ambient. It can be. But you've got to work with it. And, the fx may not sound totally there. Like the CDR has a "SpaceHole" fx type, which I'm sure is an attempt to clone the Black Hole, but... the SpaceHole is rough. I've had a hard time dialing in a sound that is right. It's like it's always too much of one aspect of the patch, and not enough of the other aspect of the patch. With high end, dedicated fx, like the Black Hole, it's like they always sound good, no matter the setting. It might not sound right for what you are trying to do, but at least it always sounds good... from there you can tweak it, and make it like you like it. But the SpaceHole... it sounds BAD a lot of the time. It's got three pages of three parameters each to tweak, and I've been a tweaking them... but I always end up turning it off... I just can't get it to sit right. Maybe I'll have a break through? Who knows? But, the CDR does have a couple of genericly good sounding reverbs, they take a lot of processing power, so you can't use two many other simultaneous fx, but you can use a few. Zoom has some high tier fx that take a lot of processing power, then they have a lower tier that are lighter on the processing. The low tier fx, I think you can string 6 together. But if you add a high tier fx, that might take it down to 4 total fx... two high tier fx would be even lower! But the HD Hall light and dark, are pretty good generic sounding reverbs. They can be tweaked. Most people like darker reverbs, I light brighter reverbs, I cut most of the low end out, keeps the reverb from becoming too muddy in my opinion, I'm speaking in a full mix, like bass, guitar, vocals, and drums. Also, the hall reverbs have pretty short tails, at max length. Too short for me. Something I've done is create fx chains with a reverb or delay at the beginning, and at the end of the chain another reverb, like the HD (high definition? aka a lot of processing power required) Hall with a long tail. This way the tails sort of add up and get longer. But I'm looking for discreet, dedicated delay and reverb pedals that sound good across the whole fx range (no matter their settings) and can be individually turned on and off, not like the Zoom CDR. So, I'll use the delay and reverb pedals I'm about to buy in conjunction with the Zoom. So I can stack delays and reverbs, like have two delays, one independent pedal delay, and a delay in the ZOOM FX chain. And potentially the same with reverbs. All of these would be at low mix levels, but it helps to thicken, sweeten the sound, and just helps to get a more dynamic, atmospheric sound. A technique that is described very well on the Pedal Zone channel, in... what's that series called, Tonal Teamwork or something like that. Tone Teamwork? So, I'm looking at this Flamma EkoVerb, or their delay and verb. Can't make up my mind. The verb is discounted right now. Leaning towards the delay and reverb separately. That's like $145 together, with tax? Kind of a lot for me. And on a side note, I just bought a Delamo, I think the company name is, Delay pedal, it is florescent yellow. I really liked a demo I heard, it had a long tail, like the repeats could be turned way up, and the time is long as well, I think it is a full second. BUT, oh man, but... BUT, it is so staticy... it's not just a noisy pedal, I mean the delay sound is LOW resolution, sort of, like the delayed note comes through pretty clearly, but is followed by digital hash/static. So, I'd send the pedal back... but I do like f'ed up, dirty sounds, for other production work I do, like a drum beat through this pedal, and then parallel compressed would be insane! Helluv dirty! But man, for guitar... I play a MiM fender Hss strat, I like plinky clean guitar sounds, and when this thing delays, it's like Plinkshshshsh plinkshshsh plinkshsh. I hope all this helps in some way...

[@alphanumeric1529]

@@thefinadians I'd like to know too, and soon! Haha!

[@MrSpeed-lt8gr]

Is this more for ambient sound or can it also do more simplistic reverb?

[@russellcrea9701]

If you set controls lower it can sound more like a traditional reverb

[@stevent3239]

Do I need 3 chords for this or can I just use one to amp one to guitar

[@RyanLutton]

You do not need 3 :) use the inputs and outputs that say (mono) for a 2-chord set up

[@uluiepra]

как сохранить пресет?

[@alphanumeric1529]

So, I appreciate your demos. I'm not autistic, so I'm not like don't speak. In fact, reviewer's opinions are extremely important to me, because as it sounds in the room is very different than what we end up with as a listener on You Tube, with initial recording, encodings, transcodings, etc. So... How does this sound, in real life? Does it stand up to the other D/R pedals out there? The sound quality of the converters, the algos, the processor itself? Can you return the big name "boutique" pedals from the big names, and replace it with this pedal? I'm asking for your opinion, with your ears, with your guitar, with your amp, in your room? Thanks!

[@Delusional.Thomas]

Waiting on mine in the mail, how do u think she'll sound plugged into my bass?

[@RyanLutton]

I have no idea but im curious! :D hope you enjoy it!

[@patrickr6505]

How did it sound on your bass?..I ordered the Flamma FSO2 reverb..I was going to go with this but I was looking for more big reverb options..

[@Delusional.Thomas]

@@patrickr6505 it does the job but I'd recommend using an equalizer to save some of the low end, goes great with the rest of my board tho and creates a cool psychedelic atmosphere :)

[@fabiostinco]

👍🏻

[@levijessegonzalez3629]

This or the avalanch run?

[@RyanLutton]

Thats a good question! I wish i still had an Avalanche Run then i'd compare them.. but I do think this is great for the price :)

[@pogoism1]

Aw man, I asked myself the same question..

[@najmi.d]

$100 pedal. wow just wow.

[@RyanLutton]

my thoughts too :)

[@FACEINITSPLACE]

Hello. Have you used a compressor effect?