Ryzen 7 5800X3D vs. 9700X, 3D V-Cache Still Going Hard!

[@SPSteve]

The 5800X3D is a Hall of Fame CPU. You guys should start a Hall of Fame for exceptional hardware.

[@Totozme]

3600 2500k

[@SPSteve]

@@Totozme GTX 1080Ti

[@Mdext966]

@@Totozme 7800x3d

[@lilpain1997]

@@SPSteve thats pretty much at the top. Insane GPU for the money

[@XploiTee]

AMD K6-3 400 3dnow

[@winj3r]

The 5800X3D is the gift that keeps on giving.

[@Ladioz]

I have it and I feel that it gives me problems in 1080p and will have an easier time in 1440p. Or maybe my 7700XT is simply shit

[@Eleganttf2]

@@Ladioz 7700 xt...

[@auritro3903]

At this rate, it's most likely gonna go down with the 2500K, 4790K and the 8700K as one of the best desktop CPUs ever created.

[@philmarsden9594]

@@auritro3903 47 and 87 series chips were trash tbh dude. you want to be ashamed for placing them on the same level as the 25k

[@STATICandCO]

It is. I wonder if the 9800x3d will be good enough to finally make me go to AM5 or not

[@theatricshrink]

3700x to 5800x3d upgrade was the best hardware upgrade ever. Keeping the same ram and mobo since 5years now and still going strong 😊

[@MysticChrome4k]

A couple years ago I upgraded from a 3700x to the 5800X3D too and my mind was blown away by the performance

[@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418]

​​@@MysticChrome4kyep I did that too. Keep toying with the idea of a 7800X3D buuuut since I game at 4K a 5090 probably makes more sense......BUT that thing will be $2200 at least I reckon.

[@harrytarded7002]

@@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418 a 5080 will probably make more sense, but we can only wait for the reveal

[@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418]

@@harrytarded7002 already have a 4080🤷 IF it's 40% faster as rumoured then that is v decent.....but I reckon a lot of the FPS improvement could be acheived with a 7800X3D and 6Ghz DDR5 and using DLSS perf/Balanced...Which at 4K looks fine. The 5090 looks like it could be 100% faster.

[@Sini420]

@@MysticChrome4k im still looking to do that, but i was wondering if i should go to AM5.. but this upgrade probably will boost my pc for years to come

[@SAFFY7411]

5800X3D, Steve's favourite CPU!

[@INOX-ir7gk]

You took my first spot 😥

[@faus2417]

everyone's favorite cpu

[@desertfish74]

Mine too! It rocks hard !

[@ShivaanshPrasann]

Mine too tbh

[@avishekmitra3698]

*our favourite

[@hasnihossainsami8375]

Truly the 1080Ti of CPUs Hopefully one day we'll call something the 5800X3D of...

[@scottbutler5]

Exactly the comparison I was thinking of.

[@adlibconstitution1609]

7800x3d is the 1080ti of CPU

[@Ilestun]

If you play 1440p or above, you good to go for soooo many incomming years with 5800x3D

[@SimonePavano]

@@Ilestun even 4k of course

[@NicolasGarel1201]

i got a 5800x3d along with a 1080ti. not playing latest game though, but not that interested.

[@PadPoet]

The 5800X3D is the CPU equivalent of the Nvidia 1080Ti. It refuses to die, become irrelevant and left behind in general. Peak AMD moment.

[@drumyogi9281]

Not really. The 5800x3D has only been out for a little over 2 years. That wasn’t that long ago.

[@defeqel6537]

@@drumyogi9281 But on the other hand it is still competing with the best, while it was priced mid tier on release

[@themobster7284]

Welp yeah... Will be so good if AMD pull up some Radeon card in the future, that has this effect... Tho for me this is 6800XT...

[@HybOj]

@@drumyogi9281 released 2 years ago yes, but on a freakin 2016 platform, thats 9 years old platform competing with 2024 platform

[@firedrapeon6012]

As fast as it was, the 1080ti is about equivalent to the 3060 with 1less GB of vram. NVIDIA being greedy due to their market share and weak competition, merely boosted the 1080ti for 1 extra generation. The 3080 was significantly faster and a worthwhile upgrade in 2022, when it was available to purchase, 😆

[@mattreigada3745]

The 5700X3D deserves a shoutout here as well. The 5800X3D is technically better, but the performance difference is marginal, and the 5800X3D costs maybe 60% more than the 5700X3D if you can even find a 5800X3D.

[@cybershocked]

The 5700X3D is likely a binned, slightly failed 5800X3D. Only reason for the better one, is score chasing or tinkering as it likely has more headroom for overclocking and other adjustments. For most users who just want value and longevity, the 5700X3D is indistinguishable in experience.

[@drewnewby]

@cybershocked Not likely binned, definitely binned, just like nearly all CPUs. Just how the market works, and thankfully, as the 5700X3D is the best option currently for AM4.

[@genericscottishchannel1603]

​@@cybershocked I've seen the 56 and 5700X3D trade in benchmarks on account of the 6 core being clocked 100 MHz under the 5800X3D

[@cybershocked]

@@genericscottishchannel1603 And there are benchmarks where the game uses 8 cores over 6, being better on the 5700X3D or 5800X3D The 5700X3D remains the better option amongst the three for most in my opinion especially if you want longevity. The 5600X3D I feel should only be a consideration if cheaper by a good margin and reluctantly at that. The 5700X3D loses nothing in real experience compared to the 5800X3D, but the 5600X3D can in some cases lose something more tangible.

[@Z3rodes]

Went with the 5700X3D because it is half the price of the 5800X3D where I live, and even coming from a 5600X, at 1440p ultrawide, there is a noticeable difference, truly great CPUs

[@NDSIser]

5700X3D is almost on par anyway

[@Grantly420]

Gonna ride my 58x3d all the way to AM6

[@kiddcisco]

best value, same

[@Tiber234]

Same ways here - Well into AM6

[@Leviathan_1.0]

5700x3d gang, where you at? paired it with a RX 7900 GRE and it's a 1440p BEAST!!!

[@talantadimitrov1557]

just got mine. looking forward to using it.

[@asian_raisin]

Mine is paired with a 3080ti. I've both 1080p and 1440p gaming monitors and it drives either one perfectly but I prefer gaming on a 1080p cause of the smaller screen.

[@adlibconstitution1609]

5500 paired with Rx 7800xt, a little bottleneck in few games but ran averything well on 1440p. Just finished Black Myth Wukong 100+ fps medium settings 1440p

[@tristanbernal3014]

I got mine with a 2080ti

[@BMarques803]

Mine is paired with the RX 6700 XT, going strong with 1440p but 75% upscaling (to simulate 1080p) due to ultrawide monitor

[@infantryL0RD]

Huge respect to fully re-do the testing! Much appreciated!

[@Mark__A]

Looks like I going to keep my 7800X3D forever.

[@akosv96]

Especially since 7000 mobos have gen 5 pcie, it's going to stay for LONG

[@maurice482390]

Glad I got the motherboard bundle from Micro Center the 7800X3D was $216 in the bundle

[@Bastyyyyyy]

@@maurice482390 damn, sometimes i rly wish i would live in the US just for the sake of Micro Center :D

[@cameronbosch1213]

​@@Bastyyyyyy I live near several of them. One of them was a former Circuit City within walking distance of New York City. I do like Micro Center for PC component parts.

[@ElJewPacabrah]

Yeah you’re set for a while my friend.

[@1Grainer1]

Steve went and did it, he poked 5800x3d nest again, all comments are already about 5800x3d 🤣

[@Likely_Alucard]

Yup. However I am targeting a 9800X3D for my new build. The availability of the 7800X3D is non-existent with every Intel user jumping ship, and every potential 9000-Series buyer falling back

[@1Grainer1]

@@Likely_Alucard it seems they should be soon because amd cleared stocks of 7800x3d, leaks suggest some bonuses of x3d on zen 5 but, lets wait and see, at least it should clock better

[@themobster7284]

Ahahah.... Welp yes 5800x3D is one of these parts, that we all love, similar to GTX 1080/TI (tho i F hate nGreedia, but even i cant say a bad thing about 1080/TI, as these cards are legends...). I will add Radeon 6800XT to that hall of fame as well...

[@haloharry97]

@@Likely_Alucard in the uk they are still Full in stock not see any place out of stock yet.

[@1Grainer1]

@@themobster7284 i used rx 590 which were also quite popular and good for long time, but now i roll with 6950XT that i got for $600 after price drop, +5800x3d and i'm happy camper until AM6, just yesterday i tried Control (finally got to it) on 1440p ultra + high RT and got 75fps (mostly wanted to test how it goes), really can't complain

[@floof_wastaken]

I bought a 5800X3D early this year since I couldn't afford a full platform upgrade and my poor 2600X was getting a bit tired. I have absolutely no regrets, it's been fantastic

[@DeanoDrives]

That must have felt amazing! Enjoy the new performance 😊

[@heyarno]

nice

[@Shadowbot074]

Got some good life out the 2600x tho hell yeah

[@SebbyG86]

i did exactly this, but from a 2600 non x and the 5800x3d was also preowned. its in perfect condition. An absolute beast. I was also only ever able to run 4 x 3000mhz 8GB ram corsair vengeance lpx sticks at 2700mhz or pc would fail to boot or would crash at 3k (Unless i only used 2 sticks in main slots then it was fine at 3k). now that i have the new CPU my ram is running at 3200mhz without even a voltage increase, havnt bothered trying to get it to go faster but im certain it could. so not only did i get a massive cpu upgrade but ram too without even changing it lol. Anyway this performance increase for the used cpu price is insane. would not have been able to go to am5 for the money i spent on 1 cpu.

[@tristanschubert4840]

I jumped from a 2600 to a 5800x3d a year or so ago. Enjoy that performance upgrade. We’ll be good for awhile😁

[@MrSmitheroons]

Thorough and informative. Thanks as always. Conclusion section goes above and beyond IMO, methodology and data are well explained. Much appreciated to have the channel as a resource. Best to you folks!

[@pmurgs72]

Whew! Steve is sitting. All is well.

[@Tom_Quixote]

The medicinal cream gave relief.

[@MikaelKKarlsson]

Resting his legs for 9800X3D.

[@islammedheryamz8546]

😂

[@islammedheryamz8546]

​@bruh 😂😂MikaelKKarlsson

[@furudoerika6977]

Glad I switched to AMD and bought 5800x3d from i5 6600 even if its the end of the life cycle. I just need to buy a gpu if I want to go beyond 1080p which I wont atm due to vram / value issue / ue5 / new meme path tracing

[@Effect-Without-Cause]

You could've also gotten a whole AM5 system (mobo + ram + cpu) for almost the price of a single 5800X3D, with similar performance. If got it on release and wanted best of the best and didn't care about value then it's understandable, but you're value conscious about GPU's?. 5800X3D was great as an upgrade for people already on AM4.

[@xXx_Oshino_xXx]

​@@Effect-Without-Cause bingo It costs about the same to buy into am5 with an r5 7600 as getting into am4 with a 5800x3d

[@noticing33]

7500f never forget that one, but ddr5 ram was much higher initially, still higher ofcourse​@@xXx_Oshino_xXx

[@andersjjensen]

@@xXx_Oshino_xXx You're assuming he did so either post Zen 4 launch or post AM5 boards coming down in price. We all knew it was a the end of the road for AM4 a long time before either of those happened.

[@kraithaywire]

Thank you so much for this video! I love how you always listen to your audience!

[@thelegendaryklobb2879]

Just 5% slower while using DDR4. Really impressive performance Glad I recently updated to a 5700X3D for a mere $180, future GPU upgrade will make good use of it

[@sasagrcevic475]

I am on AM4 since the days of 2700x. It fucking rocks. Even today you can upgrade it. Hope that AM5 will be as good as AM4 was.

[@Alexandra-Rex]

The 5800X3D feels like it's going out of stock in Norway, cause it's now around $600, but only at a couple of stores that are more expensive than other stores. But the 5700X3D is still the same price, so now it's even more interesting compared to the 5800X3D.

[@weltsiebenhundert]

Funny Half a year ago I saw it more expensive than the 16 core flagship 5950X

[@bkmelseth]

yep, I was hoping for a decent pricecut on the 5800x3d for a good while but ended up getting the 5700x3d from netonnet for ~2200kr iirc.

[@phoenixbranwen766]

Yeah here in the US the 7800X3D seems to be suffering a similar fate. Amazon US at the very least seems to only have 3rd party sellers selling the 7800X3D at like 550+ USD

[@drewnewby]

@phoenixbranwen766 The 7000 series is done, 5nm is out of production. The 5000 series is still up, 7nm is rolling. The 5800X3D pricing is supply and gouging. Go with the binned 5700X3D, much better pricing.

[@phoenixbranwen766]

@@drewnewby Yeah I already have a 5800X3D but have been watching the prices on newer stuff mostly for research.

[@1Grainer1]

Jedi Survivor recent patch removed Remuvo, so it mostly increased 1% lows, which in cases went up from 34fps to 44fps, averages remainted the same, so it's just smoother experience, no uplift

[@wallywest2360]

That's great news, the micro stuttering in that game was pretty bad even on high end GPU's.

[@KrisDee1981]

Still stutters. Nothing to do with denuvo. This game is just a mess with traversal stutters everywhere. Watch Digital Foundry updated video about it.

[@1Grainer1]

@@KrisDee1981 denuvo is well known to affect performance, especially combined with other DRMs, RE village, i think dmc 5 devs removed it pre launch because it was affecting performance too much, which was officially stated, i think same happeened to tekken, Hogwarts Legacy had that problem, cracked version had way better performance and i doubt cracking community was sitting there optimizing the game code all that "traversal stutter" magically disappeared after removing denuvo DF is just not taking any stance of performance deterioration caused by denuvo

[@miiryks97]

excited to see what the 9800x3d is gonna look like, wanted to upgrade and the 7800x3d is looking very tempting but I think I can wait a while longer

[@SPSteve]

I've started buying parts for a new build. I'm waiting for the 9800X3D to drop.

[@victoremorrose9027]

Disregarding the impact of DDR4 3600 and DDR5 6000, it can be stated that the performance of these CPUs is nearly on par.

[@yarost12]

Gaming performance. In productivity Zen 5 demolishes Zen 3, even with the extra cache. Not to mention 1440p+ results where there's going to be very little difference between the two. We're also yet to see Zen 5 with extra cache.

[@theplayerofus319]

​@@yarost12regarding that it is 2 gens older the 5800x3d rocks... no one buys a 8core cpu for productivity anyway, just too slow. Its a gaming cpu

[@WhiteG60]

@@yarost12 Depends what you mean by 'productivity', too. Things like video rendering or high end MatLab/SimuLink type simulations? Absolutely. But that market is VERY small on the whole. In day to day things like using office productivity or Visio, you won't notice a difference. Even things like Fusion360 aren't appreciably faster on the Zen5 or having more cores. My MacBook Air M1 ran Fusion nearly identically to my 3900X/5700XT and my 5800X3D/7800XT. Basically, you only need a 'high end' CPU for a VERY few things. Gaming, video rendering, and scientific number crunching. Sure, things like zipping large amounts of files and what not show increases in speed but we're talking things like 'Oh it did it 20 seconds faster over 7 minutes.' Not really noticeable unless that's ALL you're doing all day.

[@Asghaad]

@@yarost12 well yeah ... x3d is GAMING CPU series ... someone caring about "productivity" wouldnt be on x3d in the first place but something with more cores ...

[@EX0007]

@@theplayerofus319 "no one buys a 8core cpu for productivity anyway, just too slow" That is one of the dumbest and most ignorant comments I've ever read.

[@AKK5I]

5800x3d chads stay winning

[@Ilestun]

Buying AM4 was a sensible choice we made.

[@Oversensitive-S-poster]

​@@Ilestun a sensible investment that sincerely paid off

[@ruxandy]

@@Ilestun yeah, it's unbelievable, really. I've been building PCs for 34 years now (started with an AMD AM386DX-40), and the AM4 platform is just amazing, in a league of its own, have never seen anything like it (and there have been great platforms along the way - such as the Intel 440BX).

[@Ilestun]

@@ruxandy My best CPU investement along with the legendary i5 2500k. Started with AMD K6 450Mhz back then......

[@drewnewby]

@ruxandy IBM AT, Am5x86 on Socket 3, 440BX, Athlon XP on Socket 462, Sandy Bridge on LGA 1155, AM4, all standouts in my book.

[@fiction3940]

LONG LIVE THE 5800X3D

[@andred.2335]

24H2 vs Win10 would be interesting now.

[@GewelReal]

24H2 is faster

[@dawienel1142]

@@GewelReal I'm on the edge of going back to win10 so are just waiting for that.

[@joniqst]

I went back to W10, was noticably snappier and smooth in gaming. Was getting micro stutters on w11 for some reason ​@@dawienel1142

[@sirmonkey1985]

depends on how old of a cpu you have but if you have intel 12th+ or amd zen 3+ then windows 11 is faster across the board. that being said i still don't plan on switching any time soon because i'm too lazy to reinstall windows.

[@GewelReal]

@@dawienel1142 Just get debloated Win 11

[@option_n]

5800x3d keeps aging like a fine wine. 🥂

[@requiemcollectiblesgaming]

Wow, Great timing!!

[@Westonnator]

I appreciate that you re-did the tests with the newer version of windows. That truly deserves praise.

[@drewnewby]

If you have a 5800X3D hold onto it. Even though 7nm is still rolling, the prices are all over the place for it. If you are upgrading, go with the 5700X3D, for much less.

[@eustacequinlank7418]

Why would I not sell it for £440 (as per last nights eBays bidding) when I paid £235. That would likely cover a 9800X3D at RRP. I think that is exactly what I should do. I even forgot there's a 5800X in its box I hadn't moved on last year so I could swap it out until I move to AM5. Can I profit from AM4? Inconceivable!

[@drewnewby]

@eustacequinlank7418 Well likely because you will not get £440 or anywhere near that for it. Also, unless you're running a 4090, like in the video there's little point. Also, the cost of the new motherboard and RAM, since you're not already on AM5. Did you watch the video? I have a lot of customers that are kids with this "fomo". Even though it would be business for me, I tell them upgrade when it's close to double the performance.

[@drewnewby]

For anyone else reading, the 5800X3D is averaging £250 used right now, despite the nonsense posted above.

[@eustacequinlank7418]

@@drewnewby Do you want me screen grab the eBay sales next time. Why someone paid £440 is anyone's guess when it is on Amazon for £20 less. As Nvidia consumers have proved, people are slightly foolish with their money. You're delusional to call it nonsense in when it is currently fact.

[@drewnewby]

@eustacequinlank7418 I honestly can't tell if you're trolling, or just that dense. The Amazon price is for new, and set by supply, since it's out of stock elsewhere. Everyone should know how to sort by sold items on ebay, and easily see the used prices are not the same. Bottom line, who cares what you think you can sell it for? Give it a go and you'll find out what you've posted is nonsense that others should ignore. Also, the whole bit where you remember exactly what you paid for the 5800X3D, but "forgot" you had a 5800X still, just give it a rest kid.

[@GioEarthling]

Thank you Steve!

[@razorgcy]

Started with a 1500X, RX570 and a B350 Gaming Plus motherboard. Now I'm on a 5800X3D, 7900XT and the SAME B350 Gaming Plus! AM4 is the absolute GOAT of a platform, and I'm not planning to do a major overhaul until DDR6 is a thing!

[@c0d3warrior]

Hehe, AB B350 Gaming 3 and 1600 to 5800x3d on the same mainboard here. Although the network port on the mainboard died, so I had to install a cheap network adapter in the pcie-x1 slot above the graphics card. I'm going to keep that combination until either the motherboard or the CPU dies. 😂

[@frazein]

I love the addition of simracing games

[@Pliky10k]

Please include power consumption numbers. Performance per watt is important and it would also be interesting to know how/if the OS update affects it.

[@theplayerofus319]

Well, these 2 cpus arent consuming much tbh the 6800x3d around 65-80 watts. Thats a joke

[@araylaurence6220]

finally, i was worried there wasn't another 5800x3d video coming out this month, great video as always though

[@wingman-1977]

I really feel that the phrase “aging like a fine wine” is the perfect analogy when it comes to describing the 5800X3D. I got one in March 2023 (at Microcenter for $300), and have never looked back. I have it paired with a RX 6800 (non XT) at 1440p and loving it.

[@g00bergob94]

I managed to snag mine for like 280 bucks off Newegg I think which in hindsight is just crazy value.

[@JohnPamplin]

5800X3D / RTX 4080 owner here, and I've never felt more validated.

[@SagittariusAx]

This CPU is even decent enough to be paired with a 4090

[@stefannita3439]

Rig buddies! I also happened to upgrade to 4k around the time I got the 4080 for unrelated reasons, so now I even have headroom for GPU upgrades for a couple generations. Unless some stupidly CPU demanding game comes out (that I actually want to play)

[@themobster7284]

U would be validated if this card was 6800XT or 7900XTX....

[@john066]

@@SagittariusAxyes it is. I have that combo and it’s great. At 1440p ultra wide I’m GPU bound.

[@PneumaticTire]

Same, 5800X 3D/4080/64GB RAM and all is well. 1440 is what I’m running because I value FPS over 4K.

[@returningwhisper]

Giga Chad 5800X3D continues to perform.

[@ChrisSonPEI]

Thank you for this, makes me confident that an OLED monitor is my best upgrade right now. My 5800x3d w rtx4080 will hold out for another generation.

[@aeronybrek4696]

5800x3d gang!! NEVER SAY DIE 🤣

[@nathanddrews]

Even if the performance was 30% different, there's no way I'd ever build a new PC after only 2.5 years.

[@nope8958]

If you don't have a 4090 and a 1080p monitor and want to squeeze every fpsout of your gpu you don't have to

[@exscape]

Indeed, 30% isn't enough. Hell, my last GPU upgrade gave me over 3x higher performance (RTX 3080 vs GTX 1070). I wouldn't upgrade for less than maybe +75%, but preferably a bit over 2x.

[@nope8958]

​@@exscape Our problem is that a lot of people who doesn`t have anything better to do with their money try to justify their meaningless upgrades. I`m tired of hearing phrases as ,,once you go x you will never go back to y, night and day difference" and those kind of phrases together with new tech launching every year or so makes you think you have to upgrade when in fact you won`t notice the upgrade as much as those people would make you believe. Better buy something that makes you happy and as long as it does what you want, try stop following those kind of comparisons or videos.

[@sirmonkey1985]

@@nope8958 it's all personal opinion/choice.. educate yourself and use that to determine what works best for you within the budget you want to spend. what other peoples opinions are just that their own opinions, it shouldn't effect your choices. for example i'll never buy an intel processor for my own personal reasons(long story for another time), does that mean i tell other people not to? absolutely not, their processors are good (most of the time).

[@alexsiniov]

@@nope8958 for 1440p / 4K gaming 5800X3D will stay forever :)

[@dillonhuitt2386]

So from what I’ve gathered. Keep my 5800x3d and just skip this entire generation. Got it.

[@Winnetou17]

9800X3D might be 20-30% better than 5800X3D. But then again, where do you feel like you're CPU bottlenecked ? I'd still wait until there's a good offer for 9800X3D. Or, like you said, wait until I really feel the need to upgrade, which might be when 10800X3D is around.

[@Injektil_o]

@@Winnetou17 The 7800x3d is already 30% faster than the 5800x3d. See 14:06

[@gorky_vk]

@@Injektil_o Sure, paired with 4090. For 99% of gamers it's not faster at all.

[@Injektil_o]

@@gorky_vk oh god, we still haven't understood the reason why CPUs are tested with the best GPU at 1080p.

[@Marc.Google]

Thanks Steve, for putting in the work with these tests! 👌🏼 great content as always…

[@expert8837]

Ryzen 5000 series still rocking after 4 years released architecture:D i think best ever created architecture on amd history.

[@WhiteG60]

I went from 3900X in 2019 to a 5800X3D in 2023 with the same motherboard and RAM. Upgraded from a 5700XT to a 7800XT at the same time and man... what a difference.

[@expert8837]

@@WhiteG60 Yes bro i changed r5 1600af to 5600 with same environment thats pure upgrade.

[@Sean_Coyne]

Two and a half years of playing countless hours of MS Flight Sim 2020 in both 4K and VR with the 5800x3D with pretty much the best performance possible and now eagerly awaiting MSFS 2024 on the same rig in a few weeks. That's what I call value for money. What a champ of a CPU!

[@octoman_games]

Rocking a 5800X3D and a 6950XT... Couldn't be happier

[@stefannita3439]

Ultimate AM4 and ultimate RDNA 2. Two GOATed families of products. Love that build

[@ShivaanshPrasann]

Same build here!

[@Asghaad]

5800 x3D + Radeon VII ... yeah that GPU is not exactly perfect match but for 5 year old card its still more than viable thanks to its huge 16 gigs large memory still waiting for replacement that would be worth it putting a waterblock on it while not costing a fortune

[@LukewarmEnthusiast]

5800X3D and 7900 XTX here. Match made in heaven for 3440x1440 ultra-wide.

[@luismanuelmunozgonzalez9566]

Same! A Perfect comb!

[@saxxonpike]

I did a 5700X3D upgrade build for someone this year who wanted to reuse a DDR4 kit from a Skylake(!) build to save some cash. Lots more flexibility in the budget when you can get it so cheap and it's close enough to the 5800X3D to be in the same league. I think the hardest part about doing an AM4 build now is, retail availability of motherboards. So even if the 5800X3D is really good, it will become more economical to build on new platforms very soon anyway.

[@petarpetrov725]

I remarried my 5800x3d and gave it an diamond ring.

[@ericbigiron6123]

The 5800x3D is in the GOAT conversation of gaming PC components….

[@CuttingEdgeRetro]

Last decade it was the Intel 2500K, this decade its the AMD 5800X3D. I wonder just how long this plucky little CPU can hang on for.

[@retakleksum111]

as long as 8 cores are enough for gaming. we are at 3nm now 2500k was at 32nm.

[@hasnihossainsami8375]

@@CuttingEdgeRetro probably by the middle of the next console generation. The PS6 will likely have something almost twice as fast as the 5800X3D but games leveraging that kind of power will be slow on the uptake, so basically until around 2030. Not bad at all for something that'll be 7-8 years old by then.

[@hub1986]

I just replaced my 3600 onm my b350-f to 5700x3d as 5800x3d is out of stock in my entire country and managed to install win 11 aswell and i am overjoyed so smooth gaming now in many games.Clean install aswell found out i had not reinstalled in over 1600 days hehe nvr had issues.

[@Denso481]

When I built my new PC in 2020 with zen3, AM4 was at the end of its life cycle, with Zen3 being the last cpu gen. Had they not released the 5800x3d, which replaced my 5900x, it would have been a dead end in terms of upgrade path. Pretty happy with my 5800x3d and 4090 combo for still s while now

[@osmansaity]

I want to upgrade my 6800xt to 7900xtx on 1440p. Will I have cpu bottleneck issues in AAA games? Based on your experience with your 4090 should I get 7900xt instead, what's your advice sir?

[@carlestrada]

Is the 4090 getting held back at the resolution you play (unless you game in 4k)? I have the 5800x3d paired with a 4080 super for 1440p and it can keep up in most games unless if I'm really trying to push the 240hz envelope in heavier games.

[@carlestrada]

@@osmansaity it'll depend on the cpu you have. Do keep in mind that amd cards have less driver overhead than nvidia cards so the cpu won't get as hammered compared to their nvidia counterpart. From my experience up to 4080 super the 5800x3d can keep up at 1440p 240hz max settings no problem in most games if you use upscaling and FG. If you plan on playing games like Black Myth Wukong at 240hz for example... even a 4090 won't cut it in 1080p alone.

[@spladam3845]

I watched the video to that point, you're welcome Steve. Joking aside, thanks for the test, as a 5800X3D owner, it's all good news.

[@jointherevolution5577]

Long live the 5800X 3D!

[@Coolgamer400]

5800X3D was the best upgrade ever a old platform received. my X370 board will sure be used in main gaming rig for more than 10 years.

[@tdof7217]

Can you make the windows 11 bar a different color it makes me confused at a first glance and think it's part of the other fps bars

[@Barryhick186]

5800x3d gives me 2600k sandy bridge vibes. i love it!

[@Pete292323]

Just want to point out for anyone on AM4, the 5700x3d is 130-150$ on Aliexpress. Stupidly cheap.

[@theplayerofus319]

Aliexpress 🤨

[@stefannita3439]

@@theplayerofus319 you're more likely to get scammed by Amazon than AliExpress these days lol

[@Mervinion]

​​@@theplayerofus319 AliExpress is great if you don't mind long delivery times on larger items. Almost all of the smaller stuff comes within 2 weeks. There are a lot of legitimate sellers on AE. Basically every Chinese company has an "official store" there. If it's made in China then it's cheapest on AE. Edit: Delivery to Netherlands takes 2 weeks on small stuff. ~2 months on bigger/heavier stuff.

[@wayn3h]

@@theplayerofus319 never had a problem myself.

[@chadmcquade3075]

Since 2019 i have been on am4 an got the 5800x3d at the end of 2022 an its still got years of life left is beautiful

[@hennie1311]

Wow! Really, the only somewhat sizeable upgrade would be a 7800X3D or (probably) the upcoming 9800X3D if sticking to the AMD plattform. Looking forward to the Review of the upcoming Intel CPUs and the 9800X3D.

[@pavichokche]

Wow! I wonder how much closer the race would be if the 5800X3D had PBO2 enabled, because that massively improves performance

[@Asghaad]

on X3D chips it really shouldnt, they are very much locked from the overclocking perspective, that 3D cache is sensitive and prone to overheating

[@FutureChaosTV]

Heat would kill it fast.

[@faus2417]

i bought the 5800x3d cpu for 280$ about 2 years ago, its been rock solid since then and never gave me a reason to upgrade and will not anytime soon. this cpu is a monster in older games and in online mmos which tend to be not benchmarked. such a great cpu will last me for 2 years more minimum, maybe will check out what zen6 brings =D

[@Qalibrated]

Pretty impressive, i'm quite happy with my 5800X3D still! Seems none of my local retailers got any stock left but they do have the 5700X3D for about €220 (after taxes). Seems like a great deal for solid gaming performance on a limited budget!

[@Maximusss1385]

Nice Steve 😎😎

[@john066]

Yay!!!! Thank you so much for all your hard work

[@Kapono5150]

Steve just doesn’t want AM4 to die

[@cameronbosch1213]

Sadly, it is basically dead, although the 5800X3D is a good way to get extra life out of an AM4 system. Of course, I'd just go for AM5 for new system builds.

[@retakleksum111]

@@cameronbosch1213 most people sit on am4 so it is not dead at all.

[@MaculaPravus]

No one wants am4 to die.

[@benanderson6096]

So glad I got the 5800x3d when it came out as an upgrade. It would actually be really cool to see a comparison of how this processor is aging compared to the 2600k from intel which if you had back in the day as I personally felt like you were just set with a processor for years.

[@tommyg3031]

Looks like I'll be stuck with my 5600X3D for another 7-10 years

[@theplayerofus319]

Not worried about the 6 cores?

[@STATICandCO]

Tbf I'm sure people have said this about many CPUs, good chance it's completely outdated within the next 5 years

[@jurpo6]

@@theplayerofus3196 cores is perfect for gaming. Look at 7600x vs 7700x gaming benchmarks. They perform the exact same in most games.

[@Asghaad]

that is a GOOD thing ...

[@theplayerofus319]

@@jurpo6 yea right now, but in 3-5 years i expect that 8 cores will become more of a standard. 7-10 years might be a stretch

[@BarcelonaBlitzer]

This is awesome to see!

[@CossackHD]

5800X3D is the 5800X3D of the CPUs

[@watercannonscollaboration2281]

o7 for all the benchmarks. This is a perfect refresher since the 5700x3d is on sale in the US from prime day 2

[@Sus_Bak]

Ubisoft Games are too evolving Backwards like their Company 🤣

[@45eno]

At the end of 2023 I owned a used $263 5800X3D for less than a month before I realized how well they sell on the used market. I sold it, a x570 Asus TUF board, 64gb DDR4 3200mhz and upgraded to 7600X, X670, 32gb Trident CL30 6000MT ram for the price I sold my old parts. A month later a 7800X3D was in there as the deals kept coming in. Almost every AM4 rig was sold off that way and upgraded for very very little out of pocket. 7600,7600x,7700x and three 7800X3D all replaced my good AM4 X570/5000 cpu systems because the market would still buy them up. I just waited for very very low prices on AM5 hardware to appear before making each upgrade. Like my last two new CPU's were purchased for $220 7800X3D and $150 7600 on the local market. Made for easy low cost out of pocket upgrades from AM4. Even bought a bunch of AM5 B650 boards for $80 total ea.

[@EastyyBlogspot]

I do find it weird...new motherboards....new cpus...and new ddr5 memory....I would expect more and tbh I am just tempted to go to am4 and a 5700x3d would save money and would still be a big upgrade on my current rig

[@Effect-Without-Cause]

If you're already on AM4 then go for it, if building new then go for AM5, the 7500F/7600 + cheapest B650 with M.2's that you want + 32GB RAM = about the price and the performance of a single 5800X3D.

[@cameronbosch1213]

​@Effect-Without-Cause Yeah, Zen 3 to Zen 4 was a pretty noticeable boost in gaming performance, and the 7800X3D basically took it to the next level. I agree that unless you're already on AM4, just go for AM5. It actually still has an upgrade path, unlike AM4.

[@kenshirogenjuro873]

If you go enough time between builds, the benefits of platform longevity with AMD becomes less relevant. The thing about AM5 is, anyone who built a system on a 7600 for example now has the luxury of being able to wait for the hypothetical 11800X3D in a couple more years and just drop that in the same build. So you can do that major upgrade in between for a whole lot less.

[@bustis84]

I literally just upgraded from a 3900x + 2070 to a 5800X3D + 4080 super last month. Could not be happier with the performance upgrade!! Was playing on 1440p medium settings with a sprinkle of high here and there…. But now…. It’s just straight up maxed out settings 4k and getting higher FPS with everything on. Just 🤯. With a now maxed out AM4 board i’m good for like the next 4 years. I’m also still on Windows 10. 😅

[@TheSilviu8x]

"So, if you want to upgrade, don't swap everything for the latest and even if, go for the 7k series " " What about Intel offerings?" " I'm an Intel salesman.."

[@noer0205]

😂

[@reappermen]

Intel is just superior to AMD. AMD made a CPU that people would ather buy than the following gen ones, while with intel the 12th gen beats BOTH following gens in long term customer happiness

[@Chuckiele]

@@reappermen long term as in just randomly dying for no reason?

[@wasp6405]

@@reappermen give me some of that you smokin'

[@TheSilviu8x]

@@reappermen don't worry, sheeple still buying intel in floks, not a problem for your stocks. Meanwhile, intel is doing the same shady tactics, bribing suppliers with billions, instead helping those with their super overclocked old tech crap from stock...

[@catsspat]

I love my 5800X3D. It has this snappiness to it that I don't feel with other CPUs I have, even in non-gaming use. I'm skipping 7000-series, except for one 7840U notebook PC, but am looking forward to 9000X3D.

[@bmac193]

X3d chips are slow outside of gaming. Most will lag trying to web browse or do any cpu intesnive

[@Nick_R_]

Good news for Ryzen owners generally. We have great chips. I'm happy with my 2023 build. I'm sure I'll be happy with the 17800x3D in 2032...

[@lvmarv1]

My 5800x3D ended up in my wife's PC when i moved to AM5 and even she noticed the difference when we game. One of the goat CPUs for sure and am glad neither of us have to upgrade for a while now!

[@PowellCat745]

Would you consider testing with the new 6000 CL28 expo kit? Latency wise 6000 CL30 is slower than your Intel memory kit 7200 CL34 and the AM4 memory kit 3600 CL14.

[@daniilmarkovskyj515]

I have 6400mhz cl30 1:1 with Infinity fabric= 2200mhz. Why Tech Reviewers Ignore Sweetspot 6400 1:1 When Testing Ryzen9000?

[@adriankoch964]

Cuz AMD says 6000 is the sweetspot for 9000 series and something that all boards should be able to attain now. Not every board can do 6400, but pretty much all 450/470/550/570 (and even most bios updated 3** boards) boards will do 3600. So it's apples to apples.

[@PowellCat745]

@@daniilmarkovskyj515 AMD said 6000 would still be the sweet spot, so I understand why they chose 6000 even though 2133:6400 was extremely common on Zen 5. However, I don’t understand why they use a higher latency kit for AM5. It’s not like 6000 CL28 doesn’t exit; it’s available and costs the same as a 7200 CL34 kit.

[@PowellCat745]

@@adriankoch964 running 6400 1:1 has nothing to do with the motherboard. Also, I said reviewers should use 6000 CL28, not 6400 CL30, right? I was literally following AMD’s guidelines.

[@daniilmarkovskyj515]

@@adriankoch964 , I have two 16GB sticks of RAM. I think most boards will be able to handle two 6400MHz sticks.

[@paulshort1027]

I love my 5800x3d. It is one of the best choices i have ever made and you boys helped me make it. 🤘

[@vincentvega3093]

They'll have to pry my windows 10 install out of my dead gaming system...

[@PaulJohn01]

Exactly ! 63% Win10 Vs 33% Win11 and it will be a long while before those roles are reversed.

[@cameronbosch1213]

Dude, why haven't you dual-booted Linux on that system?

[@Asghaad]

@@cameronbosch1213 which is also the reason why Linux in charts is keeping as low - for now - because most systems in the surveys are counted TWICE, once for Windows then as Linux either from dual booting or prior / post OS switch but its still growing in marketshare regardless

[@noer0205]

Yeah! Windows 11 is 💩 and deserves to be put in the 🗑️! Microsoft... 🤬 Microsoft will have to do waaay better or I'm either staying on Win10 or switching to Linux

[@denks7849]

​@@noer0205good luck with that

[@hali_moto]

I already have a 5800x3d but still love to see it in these comparisons.

[@Ladioz]

People talk like the 5800X3D came out 10 years ago when they say ''wow it's still doing well in 2024'' I don't get it

[@WereCatStudio]

It's true it released only roughly 2.5y ago but the architecture itself is 4y old and in can be slotted in a motherboard people got since 2017

[@tash8341]

even though 5800x3d came out in 2022, its architecture is zen 3 2020, and its socket is from 2016 (8 years) and yep wow it's still doing well in 2024))

[@kentaronagame7529]

How do you not get it? On top of what everyone else has already said, you do realize the 5800x3d is keeping up with modern cpus despite being TWO generations behind right? It would be like comparing ryzen 3000 series to 7000 series, with the 3000 series having comparable performance. Do you get that?

[@darkienescariot9361]

​@@kentaronagame7529 facts, plain and simple.

[@lightest2385]

lol well being able to see a massive overall at about 6 years into it cycle still competitive 2 generations later. And in my case I’m on an 5700x3d average 6% behind 5800x3D I’m able to play on 4k and still max out everything with a purchase price of 183$ is pretty mad! Some getting the chips for as low as 130s on aliexpress and mostly in this economy! It’s a sleeper for sure! Very good for value

[@monkeh86]

All of us 5800x3d owners love these videos, because it justifies us not needing to upgrade our CPU for a while longer :D

[@marcm.]

1:15 Android robot charging iPhones... 😂 Somebody at UGreen really has a sense of humor

[@e1ectrino]

i bought my mobo+cpu+ram 6 years ago. Now, same mobo, more ram (added extra 16), replaced 2600x with 5700x3D. Amazing.

[@Tepnox]

Damn so proud of my little 5800X3D buddy in my PC. Still kicking hard to this day. So no need at all to upgrade in the near future (well let's wait for the 9700X3D). Thx buddy and Steve!

[@patrikmiskovic791]

5800x3D still great CPU

[@nipa5961]

The best of all time

[@khaansulu5695]

I'm glad I got the 5800x3d, I've been loving it and don't think I'll be upgrading for a while. Still using win10

[@thegreenapple5166]

Hello Sir, have you heard of our lord and saviour 5800X3D

[@gSys1337]

Just recently i switched from my 3600X to the 5800X3D. I'm loving it ❤️

[@alvinyeung9741]

7800x3d + 24H2 = king of pc gaming

[@ion1984]

recently upgraded to AM5. x570 Asus ROG mobo to the x870 MSI tomahawk, and 5800x3d to the 7600x and recently playing cyberpunk on both. Boy, this newer CPU, even in the 7000 series, is outperforming the 5800x3d. I loved that chip. They both give me my 120fps I like to play at. But the 5800x3d was doing it at 71c and the 7600x is doing it at 60c. I also suspect this has a lot to do with the better RAM in the newer mobo as well, since I transfered over the same GPU (4070 Ti Super) to the new build. I undervolted both chips. I put a SLIGHT overclock on the 7600x because I wasn't happy with how little it was boosting in the game, but now it is perfect. Really impressed by these new AMD chips. I can't WAIT to get the 9800x3d, but I will be patient and try to grab it without rewarding scalpers. Again, thanks for all your work, your channel is amazing.

[@AlphaCentauri69]

God, testing the CPU without CS2, Fortnite, Valorant, etc...

[@Asghaad]

so all the games i DONT play ...

[@c00lkatz]

TLDR; Don't bother with 9700X if you have 5800X3D or better. X3D of any generation is best chip for gaming for most games, even 2 generations old. The results shown here are mostly minimal at 1080p and will be further reduced at 1440p and above. If you're at 4K DLSS/FSR3 Quality (1440 rendered) or 1440p native or higher, you're probably looking at a 5-8% increase in performance AT BEST for an $800-1000 platform upgrade investment (CPU, motherboard, RAM), and only if your GPU can actually push those frames (so 7900XT/4080 or better). Rule of thumb is 25% improvement MINIMUM to actually see ANY difference. In other words, SAVE YOUR MONEY. The PC gaming market is currently stagnant, and even 4 year old CPUs and GPUs are still very relevant. AMD, Intel, Nvidia, and even game developers have gotten even greedier than before, and are attempting to milk us for every penny they can. DO NOT LET THEM.

[@nipa5961]

With Win 25H2 the 5800X3D will beat Arrow Lake.

[@Dyils]

Has any KZbinr done a 5800X3D and 7800X3D on windows 10 vs 11 with the new update that supposedly boosts performance? We STILL have no clue if the X3D parts get the same boost as the non-X3D parts after Microsoft fixed the branch prediction thing.

[@BeatmasterAC]

if the 5800X3D is still going strong, then the 7800X3D should stomp the 9700X

[@Effect-Without-Cause]

13:59

[@BeatmasterAC]

@@Effect-Without-Cause yeah i didn't watch the whole video^^

[@Peter.H.A.Petersen]

@@BeatmasterAC Or any review of the 9700X ...

[@BeatmasterAC]

@@Peter.H.A.Petersen I probably did...and forgot about it.