CATAMARAN SAILING: Force 8 Sailing in Greece- What's it really like?

[@roberthandlon1877]

The learning curve is real. You both are doing well, try to remember to breathe and calm heads beat panic every time. You got this.

[@Catalina58601]

Cant get over the blue color in that water! Just amazing!

[@SeaWindandNaia]

Thanks for your honesty. As a beginners I feel better when I hear that professionals like you also get sweaty in some new situations.

[@gramos9115]

Lovely day you had and Greece is so delightful . I sailed my cat here in 2006 and we are still here !

[@ricklynne2817]

Another wonderful video. So enjoy watching you two learning learning learning. Thank you so much!

[@knotnauti]

It was reassuring to see the real world tension in both of your docking situations, both at the start and end of the video. Every time we do it the heart flutters, and it's good to see it even keeps seasoned professionals like you two on your toes as well!

[@ejs6010]

Beautiful blue water!

[@ezone913]

I absolutely enjoyed this episode. Great edit. Boat Maintenace in exotic places still rings true. Thanks for sharing another chapter. -EZ

[@dougcollins9980]

Since 2003 the official voltage for Europe is 230 volts, with a tolerance of +10% and -6%. This means that in extreme cases voltages can range from 216 to 253 volts and still be within specification - but in general voltages are usually between 220 and 245 for household power. I would assume that dock power might be a bit less stable than household power.

[@mgrpvm]

correct, but the stability issue is not with the dock, it's the island

[@RedHeadAgent]

I couldn't deal with the stress of being a sailor. I have to commend you both on being so gracious to one another while under stress. I'm glad that you were rewarded with a beautiful day of sailing after that morning! Thanks for the gorgeous blue start to the week!

[@caromarco6315]

Really enjoying watching you guys enjoying your sailing!

[@sailinghopes3943]

I had this issue with my Victron Multiplus. Look for a loose connection/corrosion between the Multiplus and the batteries. Any loose connection/corrosion will cause fluctuations in the DC to batteries. That system sees this and shuts down to protect itself.

[@Tim8mit]

Wow there is so much new technology on Ruby Rose, you are still learning the systems, by mistakes made, stressful, but don't beat yourselves up about that...cheers

[@jonathanwetherell3609]

It's not about not making mistakes but how you deal with them. The man who never made a mistake never did anything.

[@KyleWilloughby-r1k]

5:11 adorable reaction

[@donaldholman9070]

The water is so blue! Thank you, great video.

[@colinboniface194]

You both seem to be handling the stress situations much better these days... Gives you a chance to savor the pleasures of sailing. Lovely down wind today...

[@rdholmes2007]

I did the same thing with my boat, not realising my engine was in neutral and setting off from the dock using thrusters. Then no main engine propulsion! ! Managed to get down to the engine room and flick the lever before we hit other moored boats! An engineer had put the engine in neutral and not told me.. A mistake to only make once. After this I tested the engine to make sure the prop engaged! Never a dull moment on the water…

[@howardhudson5054]

Good on ya Nick for fixing the throttles and then walking away with a my fault comment.

[@LloydAndrus-j9h]

That was a fun video to watch, great job, thanks for the entertainment!

[@robertlawrence7293]

I am a retired electrical engineer and what I recommend is a voltage regulator in your incoming power line. This should be designed to regulate the voltage to 220V no matter what the input voltage is. The thing you will need to know is what is your maximum current draw so that the regulator does not choke trying to supply the amount of power your vessel is trying to draw. I should be capable of taking the inrush of your AC kicking in, inrush is like when a motor starts and the starting current is higher than the full load operating current listed on the motor name plate. In addition try to get something to protect from surges/spikes from the shore power - this event can occur from a short/fault in the shore power system, even a lightening strike to the shore power system. I have one protecting my TV and sound system. It is not very big but then it is only a 120V 15A device. Also I have an RV and you can get surge/ground fault protectors which can protect against faulty power systems, and disconnect you from the faulty system. This all said, it is likely the shore voltage is high on purpose because the once thee marina is filled up with boats the load is quite high. To compensate for this they increase the voltage, as more current is drawn the voltage drop increases to nominal 220V. In addition they typically decrease the wire size going to the pedestal adding to the voltage drop problem. I hope this helps.

[@daveamies5031]

246V AC is not that high, well within normal range for a 240V AC shore power like we have in Australia, and even within normal range for a 230V AC system like Greece has, if your shore power system can't handle 200 - 260 Volts AC then I would consider that a warranty issue.

[@nooneswedish5142]

I used to work as an electrician and back in the day the standard single phase who's 220 volts but for the new millennium the EU standard who's changed to 240 volts. And whit the legally allowed variations 230 to 250 is wot you're equipment while be able to handle if they are EU compliant. I would consider that a warranty issue.

[@waltervanderboor]

Europe is usually “220” which means roughly 230 in practice. 246 is way too high. I know our systems would trip.

[@nooneswedish5142]

@@waltervanderboor That who's in the 1980's today it is 240/400 that is EU standard. so if you're system dose not handle 250 volts it is not EU compliant.

[@waltervanderboor]

@ we have Dutch and German electronics and it’s mostly renewed in 2014. The standard in mainland Europe until 2004 was 220v, then switched to 230v . ( uk was 240 ) Our system is protected and roughly at 240 it switches off. Given we live in Asia never had that problem.

[@glennburch1081]

Always a good watch, TY.

[@747crab]

We all learn from our mistakes! If before letting go you check that you can engage fwd and reverse on each engine independently, you will avoid the embarrassment of drifting aimlessly downwind in the marina! Ask me how I know this....

[@richardsalisbury2211]

Hi - to build on that, we were trained "WET" wheel, engine thruster. Will wheel / rudder freely move lock to lock, engine - does boat move (slightly) forward and reverse, does bow thruster work both ways. All before you untie lines

[@doncanaday6406]

Great music!

[@bubashalom8274]

Have a beautiful evening, it is beautiful; thanks for the ride it was exciting and fun.

[@clarisd]

❤ what a day. Epically well handled. The mega smiles at the end, and the beer says it all.

[@tedrenard472]

Mythos. I remember that! Lovely!

[@ATARI_1962]

Make sure your board is secured for departing off the stern. I have a family member that had one fail, fell and is dealing with paralysis as a result.

[@RobertWillig-uy9zp]

Love the music choices!

[@whitneylake2107]

Anyone who has a playlist containing Neil Young, Fleetwood Mac and La Boeme has my undying support and respect ! Bravo and bless you both ! Best wishes from Montana. Were you able to shift into regen ?

[@genevievemay3461]

The only thing you guys are missing is a boat cat🐈!

[@donaldholman9070]

Nice guitar music

[@warrenpowell6570]

Cool episode! Beautiful place! This was fun to watch, and thanks for letting me tag along again!😊

[@Baloo5867]

Why don't you get 2 way headphones with microphones. It would free your hands during anchoring or maneuvering when one is at the front of the boat and the other at the back?

[@davidperham897]

Have wondered this for you guys for a while now, JUST Do It & you will have a Happy Wife ! Come on Man !

[@kylem324]

Because screaming at the top of your lungs is an important marine tradition. Then you get to wear your T shirt - “I’m sorry for what I said while docking”

[@svsaguaro]

I'm putting soft padeyes on my sugar scoops for this exact reason. Nice little fender holders :) We're prepping to cross from carribean probably at the end of next carribean season during the april/june window. Had some friends on an outremer do this and it's some nice security. with very little effort!

[@dc1544]

OceanVolt if you read this change his charging amps. His engines and solar can only put out so many amps. Your inverters are setup to charge with to many Amps. Also he has 3 batteries so each one should be connected to a busbar so the charging/discharging amps are divided evenly then you can let the inverter send 300 amps at those batteries.

[@TheOverproof151]

Nicely done....

[@markbenson1948]

You guys work well together. Stay safe. John 5:24

[@ronkluwe4875]

Nick - Didn't Seawind provide you with a VMG chart for your boat? Sailing downwind, you should have been sailing the VMG, which should have been about 155 degrees apparent at that wind speed. Going deep is not fast until you have real wind (gale force) pushing you.

[@tomas5376]

Quite a few lessons learned here!⛵️⛵️⛵️⛵️⛵️👏👏👏👏👏

[@murraywagnon1841]

Sounds like a good playlist.

[@orionspero560]

At 25°C. I usually have to worry about air conditioning, not extra layers. There's a line somewhere between eighteen and twenty, where I start worrying about overheating

[@ashleykerlin]

All of Australia and NZ are 240V. Why would Seawind build a system that can't handle the voltage in your home country?

[@greatnorthern3481]

Great to see they are very helpful when you dock What are the rates in these mariners

[@noahkohn9350]

Clearly a pain in the anatomy to wake up like that….but far better than what happened to the Wynns’ batteries recently.

[@Neilhuny]

Abricot Compote and Les Sables d'Olonne do not mix; it's a well known fact. Though the Sablais terroir has a significant affect, too

[@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665]

Morning eyesight...or lack of it ... Welcome to ageing 🧙🏼‍♂️ Essentially switch it all off and switch it all back on incl the breakers .. but somethings a bit too twitchy... 🤔

[@BoomVang]

220v isn't a literal target, it's sort of a fuzzy minimum. The same system can be called 240v because it can tolerate roughly that.

[@G11713]

5:13 It seems like you need more tolerant charging circuitry. Can't have slightly out of spec marina power killing your system forcing a run to the battery cupboards.

[@959Atilla]

Dear Nick & Terysa, Couple of comments and questions: I have been following you guys for a long time now with great pleasure. 1) The 40 knots wind you had is quite normal for that place which we call Fourni straight, between Samos and the lovely island of Fournoi (you should go there) 2) Regarding the formalities for Türkiye and Greece you mentioned in Substack, please bear in mind that you have about 24 hours to finish them, so not to hurry that much. I personally always stay another night in an island after clearing ne put of Greece when I go back to Turkey (been doing that for the last 15 years) 3) Question about the Ormos Marathokampou marina (by the way Ormos means a bay or something like that in Greek). Can you tell me how much was it? Is there electricity & water supply? etc. A final note: you don’t indicate the date on your KZbin episodes, so I don’t know when you were there (and your actual whereabouts. Wish you fair winds and calm seas. Atilla Somer (from Istanbul)

[@marcellacruser951]

Hey, maybe you guys should start your own SHTF manual for odd little stuff like this. 😁 And that impossibly sapphire blue water... sigh. Perfect.

[@MaShcode]

Btw, the gerbil’s my business mascot 😂 The water color is outstanding. Do you order it in advance? Cheers!

[@gpdewitt]

I don't know about the rest of the world, but standard voltages in the USA are 120 and 240, at 60Hz of course. If your electrical system has a "problem" with 240, you will likely have trouble there as well. Not sure why anything would be designed and built to a lower voltage standard. Perhaps Sea Wind could recommend a device to lower shore power voltage?

[@nooneswedish5142]

One of the main reasons for the EU change from 220 to 240 who's to make transition from EU to USA easier.

[@bradfordsimms715]

Exactly 110 is not a real thing and 2x120 is 240 could be 50 vs 60 Hz but your system should be fine wither either. All the shore power will be 240

[@lentongrovetrust5201]

Panic stations on board the Rose, These Med videos are great.

[@paulfitzgerald1466]

Can you reset the AC voltage range your charger will accept? This sounds like just a range reset problem, I would be surprised if any decent charger would not work up to 250v.

[@asiluawksadvnase8238]

Does your self-tacking system allow you to wing your jib out to windward? At 165T it should fly.

[@hvulin]

240V is the standard this days... all 220V are supposed to be working on 240V now - although most people still call it 220V

[@dc1544]

my Growatt Inverters go up 280 volts and its automatic. The one you have should also go up higher so maybe it is not setup correctly. I would look at charging AMPS from Inverter to batteries. Your Breakers popped so Inverter is putting out to many Amps to charge batteries. This is why you run each battery to a busbar (can be 2-4 batteries depending on if 24v or 48v) (I call each set a battery bank). Then each battery bank splits the charging and discharging amps. Example is your inverter is putting out 150 amps to charge batteries and your breakers can only handle 100 amps. Having 2 banks to busbar means 75 amps go to each battery bank. having 4 means 38 amps to each battery bank. I have 4 banks on my system. so even when I push 200 amps each battery bank only gets 50 amps. My battery banks can handle 280 amps each I just do not want to heat up batteries from charging.

[@Cheers_Warren]

Was that wind acceleration between the islands ?

[@stargazer7644]

You don't have an isolation transformer on that boat with step up/step down taps to deal with any voltage you're likely to run into anywhere in the world?

[@saschak2414]

FYI 240V 50Hz is the normal power grid numbers in Europe (ok for the 240V using countries ;-) . So 246V is totally normal to see. OK here my guessing point.... Normally you have a setting in the converters for max input before the breakers go off. For me it seems that this limit is set to low. It should be around 250V or so. You should have access to the settings over you mobiles or over the controll station

[@davidperham897]

Hi T, or Commodore, your boat is referred to as a female so She And tell Nick that you have a new Queen of the Seas & not like your previous mono, this girl is new with lots of new Toys (gadgets,electronics etc.) to play with all this lots of new stuff to get used to ! Heh good to see you two again and having fun, yah ! Your Smiling ! 🇨🇦Cdn DAVE 🇨🇦

[@makanimike]

Isn't that very sensitive, if it trips at 240V? 220 up to 240V is standard in many places after all. Shouldn't there a bit more leeway, say up to 250V? We even see the voltage vary between 236 and 244 in that shot after debrief.

[@stargazer7644]

It didn't "trip" at 240V. The batteries tripped offline as designed when they dropped to 20% to protect themselves from further discharge. The charger simply wasn't charging at 240V. The question that needs to be answered is why?

[@dazthesailor6363]

Never seen two people with so many sailing miles get so stressed 😮

[@Catalina58601]

Stressed. Becasue they just spent a fortune on that boat! Also, do you not know Nick? He has calmed down so much since the beginning (I personally miss those rants!) I think they are doing a fine job getting used to that new boat, new way of sailing and new countries with all different situations.

[@dazthesailor6363]

@ yes agree but they are always very nervous and anyone with experience should know you put your engines in gear , burst your bow thruster if you have one etc before you untie your lines ..

[@Catalina58601]

@@dazthesailor6363 Well, they are always on camera with an audience of critics on youtube.

[@dazthesailor6363]

@@Catalina58601 exactly, but just giving some friendly advice .. life is all about learning

[@SkylinersYeti]

Life without a few crisis is boring but at times I would like some more boring. Keep up the good work.

[@papa.mike01]

nice taste in music.

[@antonditt1661]

I'm contemplating staying with lead batteries and a sextant when I buy a boat.🤔

[@Corey-pd3mi]

Don’t forget the oars

[@islandonlinenews]

Nick sounds like a licensed electrician haha.

[@HandyC]

Do you have a separate AC charger, or is it handled by a combined Inverter charger? I find it difficult to believe that 240v would cause issues. That's pretty much our standard voltage here.

[@polabair911]

Is there an isolation transformer in that circuit? Might consider one.

[@pauljamieson803]

Definitely, lessons learned.. 25c and it is cold??

Large windchill factor.

[@abbbee8918]

Do you ever think that simplicity is underrated? You have so many systems on your boat, so many components to fail. Statistically you’ll have 5.36 issues at any one time. And you’ll spend 42% of your time worrying about, or fixing these issues.

[@stevelawrie9115]

Where would you store a passerelle? (I think that's the spelling 🙂)

[@OllieW501]

Suprising this was too much, what about a tweak to charge controller/inverter/transformer - whatever you have? Should be more robust than this surely?

[@bhodson7954]

Lazy lines in Greece - luxury or deliberate choice?

[@Mark-j5h2b]

You don’t know when your boat engines are in neutral…?

[@williamlabarre4755]

Trip breakers for low limit charge? Ridiculous. As is a 236V protection limit for charge circuit. Both seem to indicate that the charging subsystem is maldesigned. Your system design should have taken into account the fact that you will cruise internationally.

[@Spoon279]

You need a small, single burner propane powered coffee/ tea maker if you wake up to no battery power. Otherwise, why even get out bed.

[@stevehartley8162]

Neil Young! ❤ 🎸

[@stargazer7644]

The battery charger on a boat that is intended to be used worldwide can't run on 240V?

[@oliver9881]

Hi … 240v is Normal in Europe?

[@radupaul8260]

Salutare salutare 👍🌹

[@jimdavids6708]

Skip Samos for FOURNIE, LIPSI ‘IKARIA, LEROS AND PATMOS

[@barticasun]

Great footage. The mains power input should be fairly tolerant of 220-240AC as regulator circuits should sort out any peaks etc In the UK it’s fairly common for mains AC voltage to move around quite a bit and even peak in the 250s 🤪😎😵‍💫

[@stargazer7644]

I love it when people who have the vaguest understanding of electronics talk about "regulator circuits".

[@Neilhuny]

Pease don't disappear off to a mountain-top!!

[@americanbornwalkaway9110]

Nothing Worst than throwing up Apricots 🤮🤮....ALWAYS fun to hang with you two🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@bfeltovi]

Calling your wife The Admiral and then comparing her to a hamster seems confusing. Treasure your co-captain, Nick.

[@TotallyEpicMaster]

You can't be an admiral all the time! People contain multitudes!!

[@gavmurray7398]

not tripping from too much voltage is a warning sign about something else in electrical system

[@stargazer7644]

The unit simply doesn't start when there's too much voltage. Why would you expect a breaker to trip? I'd expect a universal input charger to work ideally from 100V to 250V, but at least from 210V to 250V.

[@tatman8240]

Wow man. It's blowing dogs off chains out there.

[@gabebabe1]

That makes no sense - a range of 220 to 240V is normal - if your batteries were not designed for that get Seawind to replace them

[@rotorgator]

I might be more concerned about what caused the power problem than the actual problem. Possibly out in the middle of no-where and losing all power might get your heart-rate up.

[@stargazer7644]

What caused the power problem is the charger won't work on 245V, so it wasn't powering the boat, so they were still on battery and didn't realize it. Then the loads on the boat discharged the battery to the minimum level and the contactors on the batteries opened as designed to protect the batteries from over discharge.

[@dougklettke8833]

🍾😊🍾

[@thomasthornton5737]

😀😀😀👍👍👍❤❤❤

[@davidperham897]

Alll I’ve heard is that the power supply & electric field around marinas is overly extensive Stories of Anodes melting of in ridiculous short time. Have also heard of cruisers avoiding plugging in to shore power. Food for consideration Nick u probably thought this!

[@stargazer7644]

None of that is the marina's fault. That is a result of poor boat electrical design. Isolation transformers should be mandatory, or at the very least galvanic isolators.

[@chrissmith6133]

👍😎👍☀️🍻🍻

[@garyag45]

❤🙏🙏🙏🤛👍⛵️🦅😎🇺🇸

[@nixhixx]

Butter... and KETCHUP on a sausage sandwich????

[@jeffreysearle2996]

Hey that hamster has very sexy legs. 🤓🤓

[@leannecuster1490]

Untill the orca showup .Just kidding