Sam Harris: Trump, Religion, Wokeness

[@triggerpod]

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[@milixer1]

No.

[@scproinc]

Not worth it.

[@ArtfulDodger566]

That Hunter Biden Laptop story was an easy test of principle for sam and he failed it badly. The rest is just clever sounding rationalization for his own lack of principle on the issue. Next time he speaks of freedom of speech or freedom of the press, he ought to be laughed at.

[@laurabusse1832]

That oughta be good lol

[@alexwhite8523]

Trump has been living rent free in Sam's head for 6 years and has crowded out any rational thoughts. Sad and cowardly/sycophantic behaviour from interviewers with no pushback for utter tosh psychobabble Kamala style word salad. Trigger need to educate themselves about MAGA and have someone on to counter Sam's TDS or be found out as completely partisan. I suggest Steve Bannon or Jack Posobiec. I understand why Tim Cast blocked KK.

[@Jack-jr1yv]

I listened to every Sam Harris podcast, till his one on vaccinations, where he stated any of his peers who disagreed, challenged or critiqued the efficiency or outcomes of the new vaccine was either psychotic, schizophrenic or in some way mentally ill. That characterisation of people who disagreed with him was chilling to me. He also said on that podcast in this case he believed that other peers and professionals should be censored on media platforms if they disagreed because they pose such a danger to the population. I couldn't believe my ears after all the support he has been given to speak on sensitive issues. I discovered in that podcast the depth of his intellectual dishonesty and I didn't want to hear anything more of what he had to say.

[@anonymoustoo4945]

an Icelandic study just came out that says the vaxed are MORE likely to get covid again than someone not vaxed

[@Jack-jr1yv]

@@anonymoustoo4945 There is no way that Sam will take on any of the new studies and information that supports everything his very intelligent and professional peers warned about. His ego is too strong and unfortunately he's becoming quite a fundamentalist in his ideas.

[@anonymoustoo4945]

@@Jack-jr1yv agree .. the most important thing one can learn is to let go of our ego .. he is wayyy far from that

[@dereksbooks]

@@anonymoustoo4945 his ego is his god.

[@Si_Mondo]

It took you till *then* to realise his intellectual dishonesty? Well, I'm glad you finally realised it, and at a crucial point in human history.

[@michaelswaim9428]

When Sam said Brett Kavanaugh was guilty because “he looked like someone who would do that”, I was done with him. His TDS made his entire “I’m the most critically honest person in the room” motif complete garbage. Totally exposed him as a fraud. And I used to LOVE Sam.

[@cecilcharlesofficial]

yes indeed

[@blurglide]

Yeah- hashtag me too. This is some EXTREME long haul TDS. Trump was president for four years, and not only did none of the doom and gloom predictions come to pass, but things actually ran pretty well. Good economy, ended the Korean war, Abraham accords, defeated ISIS, deescalated with Russia, energy independence and better border protection. We know Trump is an asshole, but he's effective. You're not having him over for dinner, so please judge based on policy, not personality. What harmful policies were passed that would have you overthrow the electoral process and abuse power to avoid?

[@SomeonesOtherGuy]

Do you (or anyone else) know the time stamp for this?

[@theetiologist9539]

I think calling him a fraud is unfair. I think he is genuine. He's just wrong to think it's ok to sacrifice principles to get rid of a person you don't like.

[@oldrichkosacka5522]

I agree. That was also the moment I understud there was something horrible wrong with Sam Harris.

[@ZubyMusic]

Very well conducted interview. Hard to listen to due to the unabated TDS and heavy bias, but interesting nonetheless. It really seems like Trump did something PERSONALLY to him. It's odd how his objectivity just goes out the window on anything Trump related. A real vendetta.

[@sixer6er]

Yay Zuby 👋. Yeah, seems so personal. A weird grudge. He’s made a total tit of himself here

[@ColonelRoge]

Quite phenomenal, where’s the evidence to show Trump is so much worse than Hunter? I don’t understand how he can’t see past his own bias.

[@MrRjsnowden]

He's an intellectual elitist. I think he would be happy if a specific IQ or set of certain credentials were required to even run for the office of president of the United States.

[@PeJota615]

I struggle to comprehend people, like Sam, who felt Trump is an existential threat. I just don't get it.

[@blurglide]

This is some EXTREME long haul TDS. Trump was president for four years, and not only did none of the doom and gloom predictions come to pass, but things actually ran pretty well. Good economy, ended the Korean war, Abraham accords, defeated ISIS, deescalated with Russia, energy independence and better border protection. We know Trump is an asshole, but he's effective. You're not having him over for dinner, so please judge based on policy, not personality. What harmful policies were passed that would have you overthrow the electoral process and abuse power to avoid?

[@Normacfan]

Intellectuals are no more moral or immoral than anyone else. The difference is that they have a greater ability to rationalize their beliefs. And history shows us that we can reason ourselves towards evil quite easily, as in the case of communism.

[@swish-r9v]

Also their reach is much greater than the days of Socrates

[@shanewilson2484]

OR fascism🤣

[@octagest]

yup the belief comes first then the rationalization, for most people

[@TheJollyMisanthrope]

@@shanewilson2484 Fascism is just another form of leftism like Communism. Absolute power of the state.

[@ordoabchao4202]

"Trump clearly violated Twitters terms of service, maybe not as written, but as Twitter should have had them." ... this is amazing, does he even hear himself speak?!

[@Moveplaylift]

I burst out laughing at that point... I couldn't believe it - the ego of that statement, amongst other things!

[@blackgateboxingxuanmenquan6407]

He ONLY hears himself speak. That’s the whole problem.

[@einhornisaman2973]

The arrogance of intellectuals.

[@jackspring7709]

That statement, more than anything, jumped out at me, too. Extraordinary thing for him to say.

[@Artificial-Insanity]

Doublethink on full display.

[@cailancook9720]

Watching your guys' faces as one of the most respected and internationally famous public intellectuals just breathlessly torches his own career in front of you is a sight to behold. Many didn't think he was this far gone, but great interview! You laid his beliefs bare. His new-found respect for Liz Cheney is proof he's willing to compromise even his most ardently argued ideas, for the sake of getting rid of trump. It's embarrassing to watch.

[@Zodemus]

Actually he is 100% correct and you are in the cult. Silly snowflake

[@repCanada]

The Cheneys literally murdered the weapons inspector that blew the whistle on no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, then went on to kill a million Iraqis but somehow this is all water under the bridge for phony philosopher Sam bitch face

[@RFSA180]

💯 Bang on mate.

[@JohnJones-yk5qk]

Amazing comment 👆👆

[@pdcdesign9632]

If you're still supporting Trump after all that's happened then nobody can help you. You're officially living in a delusion.

[@Dabket3araB]

Sam is a great example that reading 10 books a day doesn't mean shit you can still form incredibly deranged ideas

[@jackspring7709]

Very true.

[@yfhm6275]

Do you want to buy a bridge?

[@truthseeker9975]

Absolutely right.

[@DiogenesNephew]

I don't think anybody thinks reading 10 books a day necessarily makes you anything but a rabid reader.

[@PowerofRock24]

Reading 10 books a day and being that naïve means he is reading so fast that he absorbed none of the information. It defeats the entire purpose of reading...

[@jimhill4212]

What exactly makes trump unfit to serve as president? Notice he never has any examples just broad generalizations. I believe Sam has suffered the worst case of TDS I’ve ever seen.

[@sv5170]

My follow up for Sam would have been: If twitter is a private company that only wants to publish info based on its bias and without consistent terms, why not lift its section 230 liability protection and treat it as a publisher?

[@LordRykard9376]

Boom. There it is folks.

[@tinyknott]

Yep. And I'm sure that has been an argument against him other times, but these lads are British, so they're not that familiar with the details I'd wager. "Intellectual honesty" my bottocks. If he was intellectually honest, he'd bring that argument up himself and defeat it. Instead he strawmanned it as if the government would storm Twitter HQ with firearms and override the servers. That's never been the debate, ever. The only thing the government would do is say "Sure, go ahead and sue the platform that let [insert either Alex Jones fanatics, Ethnonationalists, BLM, Antifa, Trans activist lunatics, wokists, etc] harass you without stopping them in time.", and Twitter would be dead in a week.

[@davel7433]

My follow up would be ... But Tweeter is publicly traded company and is reimbursed from tax payer money ....

[@clararob9869]

It is a publisher and the sooner it (and other sm) is treated as a publisher the better for society. Once you are capable of addressing the whole world the platform needs to be regulated.

[@ananthan8951]

If you have your demons you have your holies, blasphemy laws, agendas, narratives. Engines of propaganda and repression are clearly what all these lawless monopolistic platforms turned out as.

[@Black-dog-likes-walks]

Sam: thank you for teaching me to be against the censorship that you now stand for. This is extremely sad to me. I loved waking up the book and his free will book. He was always one of my favorite thinkers. He stood for free speech, stood next to hitch, and always brought forth rational & well thought out responses. However it seems as though covid and Trump broke his brain. He’s another victim. He took the stance of being pro-mandate and pro vax. He didn’t challenge the cdc & the sketchy data coming out. Further, It was so sad seeing him be pro-Censorship and be against freedom of information. he took the weird stance of “orange man bad no matter what” which can be seen in this interview.

[@chuckbutler3667]

Didn’t work too well for Liz either.

[@supersonice4]

Was scrolling quickly, reading most comments and was waiting for someone sane to actually comment. I thought I was the only one who saw what you saw! I like to think my self as an independent mind, but Sam’s current views spew “hate the orange man, censorship is alright”

[@Wowreally42]

It has been so sad to see him completely lose it.

[@melissabennett1168]

Agree. Use to love listening to Sam. He was a deep thinker. Maybe i'm wrong, maybe he is, but he doesn't seem to be standing back and thinking through these issues

[@highpriestofgavinalmightyh1304]

I believe his late friend Christopher would offer him a well-deserved Hitch slap for this.

[@Shoutinthewind]

Sam’s defense of Twitter’s behavior is contemptible and reveals the authoritarian that he has always been from supporting eugenics policies and the war on terror in the past to his support of technocratic interference in elections today.

[@interman7715]

Perfect and to the point my friend.

[@wasdwasdedsf]

what eugenics policies?

[@regynaught]

Yeah he essentially said if the people new the truth they will elect Trump again. Elites think they know what’s best for us better than we do

[@novacancy7253]

“War on terror” no the same as Trump !

[@BenMJay]

Sam Harris is not the brightest bulb.

[@Bertie22222]

Sam Harris. I'm very comfortable with the 'dark arts' of politics as long as it benefits the side i'm on.

[@troypinkerton9876]

I used to love this guy. He goes to show however; no matter how intelligent you are; no matter how good your reasoning abilities.. if all the information you consume is corrupted you will be wrong about everything. At some point, it is definitely his fault. He pretentiously filtered his information to only come from sources that an elite person such as himself should consume. Anyone who wasn't part of the MSM was just an 'internet goon" and therefore could be dismissed without any consideration. His world view is now built on so many lies; he seems insane.

[@Ciph3rzer0]

Ok. Take what you said and turn it on yourself. How do you know that's not what you did? Most Magapedes turned to complete unreliable commentary "news entertainment" sensationalizing content with no editorial control and Facebook and internet memes from high control groups as "truth" and never fact checked any of it. Tell me that's not you.

[@troypinkerton9876]

@@Ciph3rzer0 Well for one, the people/groups I was listening to turned out to be right about many things. I was getting exposed to MORE context, not less than those simply listening to the deliberately de-contextualized media narratives. For example, I knew back in 2016 that the whole Russia/Trump narrative was likely JUST a Clinton campaign strategy that the establishment decided to pick up and run with. It was in the wikileaks (which people like Sam would have no idea about because the media would not be going to talk about it). Right about the time that the media started running with baseless Trump/Russia stories; there was the leaked email exchange between Clinton campaign staff about trying to tie Trump to Putin. Over the next couple of years, more and more evidence came out from groups like Judicial watch (who actually sue the government and get documents) that were revealing the ties between the completely false Steele dossier, the Clintons, and the laundering of it into the DOJ through the husband of one of Fusion GPS employees. It showed the FBI at the highest levels were corrupt, that they hated Trump and wanted to fix the wrong 2016 result. That they knew the Steele dossier was full of bullshit; but they used it anyhow as the backbone for lying to the FISA court to get spy warrants for people within Trumps campaign. All of this information I knew years ago and I hope by 2022 you at least have some vague acceptance that the whole Trump/Russia collusion narrative and investigations for years and years were NOTHING but bullshit. People like Sam (and perhaps you by your condescending tone) were never exposed to any of this information because the media he was drank were in on the "get Trump" bandwagon the whole time.. evidence be damned.

[@hoodoooperator.5197]

I'd suggest to you that his reasoning abilities may have never been that sharp.

[@shadforthw3535]

Or more popularly said: 'deranged'

[@Theactivepsychos]

You obviously don’t have a clue about him then. His own podcast is full on people outside the mainstream and from all political view points. Sam just finds that deceit is the number one threat to democracy and trump was personal deceit on top of professional deceit on top of commercial deceit on top of political deceit. There’s zero you could say to trump to change his mind.

[@KevinSolway]

Sam Harris appears to be saying that people should be taken-out, by any means necessary, before they can ever run for political office, because he personally is the supreme judge of the Universe.

[@LeutnantJoker]

That is exactly what he is saying. And the hypocrisy of that coming from someone criticizing Islam, for saying it holds the ultimate truth, is through the roof.

[@mongoblazingsaddles9440]

His political opinion are worth more than yours so he can justify any lie to implement his politics. His stupidity creates a massive arrogance.

[@TheShootist]

@@LeutnantJoker easy to criticize medieval barbarians, even if they had no choice where they were born or what evil they were taught as children.

[@storm7617]

But Trump has already run for office. And he was trash. Yall are just slurping on his berries like he's your daddy, and can do no wrong.

[@ZeroOptions]

@Manish Mims is there a video about them?

[@Plax123]

For years I believed Sam Harris was right in The Moral Landscape in saying that we could divorce morality from religion. After seeing his rapid decline into authoritarian consequentialism, I believe he has become the personification of why his argument was flawed.

[@wuwei473]

Truly, a horseman

[@Soulerous]

Well said.

[@shaft9000]

I haven't followed him closely for many years, but it seems from here that Sam is _still_ playing this '"high-priest of atheist nerds'" charade for as long he can ride it to the bank. Nietzsche's _Genealogy of Morals (A Polemic)_ describes what Sam has failed to grasp; such as the absurdity of 'noble morals' in relation to religious (and consequently, secular) notions of compassion.

[@Anne_Onymous]

He has TDS and lives in a bubble. I don't believe the two arguments are related.

[@siegfriedbraun5447]

Yup, I used to call myself a "recovering Christian", and saw Harris (et al) as a safe haven for my position. Now, based on his incredible dishonesty, I've, once again, got to examine my beliefs. Ironically, Sam Harris will be the cause of many folks turning to faith.

[@CommanderIrish]

To me this argument boils down to: do you allow someone to become president to ultimately destroy democracy or do we allow the scales to become tipped to ultimately save it. Interesting conversation all around

[@cecilcharlesofficial]

How can anyone accept this man's level of "Literally Joe Biden could have done ANYTHING and it wouldn't be worse than Trump" and still consider him a logical, non-corrupted thinker in the slightest? Sam Harris has sold his soul.

[@essa6141]

typical TDS sufferer.

[@besseljm1]

Yes he has. What an ignorant fool he is.

[@dazedandcold]

Sam sucks

[@Sluttybags]

Yeah, he’s been completely unhinged on this stuff since 2015. Had to stop with his pods around ‘17 because in Sam’s mind, all roads lead to Trump.

[@storm7617]

How come Trump can't be criticized without Cons saying TDS? As if Trump has never done anything wrong in his life

[@Dxwill10]

This is how the vast majority of activists think and view themselves, and honestly, it's refreshing to hear at least one of these utterly immoral pieces of excrement say the quiet part out loud for once.

[@Mcaark]

The inevitable auto-destruction of Moral Relativism.

[@pdcdesign9632]

Finally, an ADULT GUEST in this show. Sam does not pull any punches. Let the Trump fanatics toil in their misery. 🙄

[@WorthlessWinner]

At least he's not saying we should legalize torture like he did in the Bush years.

[@hanamlchl]

@@pdcdesign9632 Yes, the adult guest who openly advocates for subverting democracy because Trump was an existential threat...despite 4 years proving the contrary. The American system worked, he was held in check. But we'll openly conspire to suppress information about corruption in his political opponent because the plebs might not vote the way I want.

[@raskolnikov6443]

Agreed

[@Blazen1212]

"Liz Cheney is a total hero" -Sam Harris 2022 Honestly...what the fuck is Sam talking about.

[@1111guru]

OMG, that said it all for me. That and comparing Trump University to Hunters Laptop. Guess he missed the circulating videos of HUNTER SMOKING CRACK GETTING a foot job in the bathtub.. so sickening. Such a criminal family. So many criminals on both sides of the Isle. DC is a swamp that will never be drained.

[@malachi-]

I think the lizards got to him.

[@firefly9838]

She did the right thing... this comment section is fucking insane

[@Blazen1212]

@@firefly9838 maybe you are insane.

[@thatleftyjames2893]

@@firefly9838 Lmfao

[@bradg.8469]

This rambling, incoherent explanation for going against everything this country is founded on shows what happens when a great intellect is not grounded in morality and objective truth.

[@brycecrichfield1934]

Well, to be fair to Sam, he does claim to be grounded in those two things. His entire career is based on attempting to articulate an objective morality. The issue is not his ostensible lack of morality or favor of objective truth, but his ego.

[@ladyj3173]

Even Bernie Sanders said that kicking Trump, then still the sitting president, off Twitter, was a bad precedent to set.

[@Si_Mondo]

Sanders had his moments.

[@Tounushi]

@@Si_Mondo It's more like the moments where he failed were so monumental that they overshadowed his better moments. I still think that if it wasn't for that podium hijack, he would've been the Dem nominee against trump. That would've been very interesting to see and even more interesting if he'd won. Alas, the podium was taken, Hillary was the nominee and Sanders fell in line.

[@Fisbin]

The first line - intellectual honesty - so high and mighty and such lack of self awareness. Hypocrisy and smugness knows no bounds - Sam is the poster child for both. Thanks guys for providing the forum and asking the questions that leave no doubt as to his TDS and the lefts appetite to burn down very institution to achieve their goals.

[@Hmfirestormz]

For as much as Sam rails against religious people this dummy is as mind controlled as isis.

[@Hoodwinkers]

It was like watching a car crash, seeing in real time how badly that aged. Can't write this stuff

[@Theactivepsychos]

What’s he intellectually dishonest about?

[@simpleton8073]

@@Theactivepsychos Can pseudo-intellectuals be dishonest?

[@Theactivepsychos]

@@simpleton8073 you know anyone can be dishonest right?

[@Blank_01_01]

It just goes to show that you don't need religion to be blinded by ideology. It's sad to see the state Sam is in.

[@MichaelBigelowMusic]

This is amazing. It's like he's not even the same guy!

[@johnknight3529]

I don't think atheism is exempt from becoming the basis for a religion. Once things get to the point of having an all-encompassing Grand origin story (GOS Evolution), which is taken to be THE TRUTH, religiously, I think it will operate as a religion.

[@jmh31890]

@@johnknight3529 you may have misunderstood what atheism is. Atheism is the null hypothesis of the god question. If you were an atheist, you'd neither believe a god exists, nor believe a god does not exist. It's not an assertion on the god question, and it certainly isn't an assertion about evolution (?) Atheism isn't necessarily the basis of a religion, but I will agree that there are a ton of people who are self-proclaimed atheists for very dogmatic reasons.

[@martinm6368]

@@jmh31890 I don't see how it's even possible for it to be the basis of a religion. There isn't really anything one can deduce from the statements "There is no god" or "I'm not convinced there is a god". Whatever moral framework is formed needs to be based on additional assumptions.

[@jmh31890]

@@martinm6368 those who misunderstand what atheism is such they assert "there is no god" and subscribe to it as dogma would be a solid foundation for a religion, from my perspective. Though, I guess then it depends on how you define religion and my usage of the word here is something akin to "dogmatic belief" Edit: a word

[@christoph8616]

I've become a hermit from most of social media. Hearing Sam talk about the state of current discord makes me feel confident in that choice.

[@felang9257]

It has turned a very stupid society extremely angry and even stupider.

[@d3maccus]

I wouldn't trust Sam's opinion on how things are haha. he is totally triggered.

[@JediNiyte]

@@d3maccusYou're an idiot.

[@cajohnson130]

Social media is not reality and is an issue.

[@summerrose5886]

I love the body language of the hosts staring at Sam explain how the ends justify the means with regards to getting rid of Trump. It's almost shocking to hear Sam articulate such nonsense.

[@ikbo]

Sam said absolutely nothing wrong. Twitter should have banned trump years ago for violating their TOS and letting him spread disinformation and threats to violence.

[@joebaker7788]

My impression of what Sam said was if Trump as a candidate to presidency and actual president can spout conspiracies and blatant false information to gain and maintain his position, then why can’t the same be used against him. To me that sounds like a more fair and democratic society. In an ideal world everything would be based off merit and truth, but that’s not how it works, even more so in politics

[@austyn5004]

@@joebaker7788 Sam says Trump University is WORSE than the "plausiable" corruption of a sitting vice president and now president getting money from the CCP. That's besides the ch!7d p0rn, drug use, etc on his laptop AND the corruption with Ukraine.... you know... the country rhe US is sending BILLIONS of dollars and worth of military equipment to

[@grimreaper337]

Harris is a douchebag who admits he wouldn't care if hunter biden had buried children. That is about as low as it gets .

[@timdaugherty4014]

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[@kyrman6038]

Sam: Makes fun of God for a living. God: Sends an orange clown to torment Sam for eternity.

[@theinngu5560]

🤣🤣🤣

[@rw3452]

🤣

[@RicardoRocha-lg1xo]

Awesome comment

[@elingrome5853]

🤣

[@frandriedger8450]

What will sam do when/if Trump wins in 24? It will be ......!?!

[@thenewpopulists]

"Why it's a good thing that intelligence agencies interfere in elections." Sam Harris - moralist and free thinker

[@1247.cccccc]

When he was blathering on about the ideal social media and he suggested moderation would be possible with 'perfect(ed) AI' I couldn't help but snort. He actually approves of fighting potential corruption with actual corruption. Isn't that fighting the flammable with fire?

[@jackspring7709]

@@1247.cccccc Yes: he's a hypocrite.

[@jackspring7709]

Well summarised.

[@margaret9314]

He's now at the same intellectual level as "lying is OK when it's so you side wins" that Vaush uses.

[@user-tu2dr3ny6x]

@@1247.cccccc Sam Harris is what happens when a blabbering idiot develops a great vocabulary.

[@jacobelmosehjordsvar]

How can you condemn tribalism and egage in it at the same time?

[@anthonyreed480]

The lack of introspection Sam has is truly incredible. Imagine if Don Jr had a job on the board of a Ukranian gas company and there were leaked emails about cash "for the big guy" lol. Sam would have to start a new podcast series of 12 episodes to cover it.

[@dereksbooks]

Yeah but allegedly ripping off a few students is a far greater crime against America.

[@Tounushi]

He doesn't need introspection since he's the model of rationality /s

[@crushinnihilism]

How can Sam square claiming all Trump supporters are psychopaths while also arguing for social engineering for the "greater good"?

[@dncbot]

Because he lives by "do good" instead of "don't be evil". "The greater good" is dangerous. People believing in "the greater good" is too often ready to sacrifice the individual on their way. A Lot of the real evil stuff of history were done by zealots thinking they were serving something good. Not much evil has ever been done by those who refuse to trample on the individual on their way.

[@the-quintessenz]

He's evil and he likes it. That's why.

[@veryverysaline3376]

I think he meant Trump and Jones are the ‘psychopaths’ and the supporters are merely ‘morons’. Nice way to win friends and influence people/at least half the country hey!

[@crushinnihilism]

@@veryverysaline3376 nothing screams objective as the exact dialouge trees I can find on reddit and twitter. Its almost as if leftists are not real people. They're literally NPC characters with the same programming.

[@besseljm1]

When you have no firm grounding for your morality, and outright reject that a firm grounding exists, it's easy to dismiss your morality in favor of "the greater good" as you see it.

[@wk9839]

“When do you want to cease being angry so you can function intelligently” - wise words from you, Sam. When will you implement that advice?

[@JustinFisher777]

Oh good. The eternal Spiderman finger pointing circle. Western Civilization's current mood.

[@Zerradable]

How any sane person should read your comment: "Stop talking bad things about my Orange god ): "

[@RaisonDetre96]

@@Zerradable It's good to know that power and maintaining it is more important to you than speaking and maintaining truth. The truth isn't always comfortable, but to completely to deny it is pathetic. You have let your hatred of Trump literally inhibit your ability to think critically, as exhibited by your ridiculous comment. -Sincerely, Someone who never supported Trump

[@rubengonzalez620]

@@Zerradable you too suffer from TDS... Sad

[@Ontheroxxwithsalt]

Sam and his peers suffer from a massive case of folie a deaux.

[@wingingninja]

Marcus Aurelius said” the noblest kind of retribution is not to become like your enemy” The ends do not justified the means, otherwise you become as immoral if not worse than the person you’re criticising.

[@devinglass9967]

Trump's election completely broke this man. He's never been the same. He can't even have a podcast talking about other things unless they're far removed from politics, because the second politics comes up, he's going on an anti-Trump rant. Sad what his personal hatred of Trump has done to him.

[@AmazingStoryDewd]

Trump's election broke a lot of liberals brains. They bought into nonsense of 6 years now. That's the problem.

[@stoyanb.1668]

Hes projecting his own beliefs onto the orange man.

[@danafoley4603]

Why does he despise Trump so much?

[@jennyk.8349]

This is very true. I’ve listened to every episode, been a huge fan, been to his live shows, monetarily supported his podcast, etc. After Trump’s election, he just became almost unhinged when speaking about him. It’s very sad to see. Cancelled my monetary support of his podcast yesterday after watching this and giving my money where it makes sense.

[@johntowers1213]

​@@danafoley4603 why do any of them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ whatever is causing it is visceral and utterly blinding to them..Trumps certainly a piece of work... what my old man would call a "character" whilst raising his eyebrow to show disapproval... but this raw hatred they have for him is completely out of proportion to his actions..

[@lcb9807]

“Intellect is not wisdom.” “Some of the biggest cases of mistaken identity are among intellectuals who have trouble remembering that they are not God.” Dr. Thomas Sowell, a true genius.

[@blackgateboxingxuanmenquan6407]

[51:18] sums up this interview

[@jackspring7709]

The problem with intellectuals and other academically gifted people is that they think they are brilliant in all aspects of life and they think know better than everyone about everything: this is why they never develop and lack wisdom and self awareness.

[@espada9]

@@jackspring7709 Nearly ALL are only gifted in a few aspects of life and TERRIBLE at the others.

[@jackspring7709]

@@espada9 Very true - and they all insist that they know what's best for everyone - sometimes with catastrophic consequences.

[@taras.4823]

Great quotes that definitely sum up the dysfunction we’re seeing here.

[@peteschweddy4565]

Sam is scattered and totally lost in this interview. It's strange seeing him justify horrible immoral ideas with little to no actual evidence. This was very weird.

[@yudhiadhyatmikosiswono9082]

It's sad that for years he advocate rationality, promote free speech and anti censorship. Today he is opposite what he used to advocate like more emotional, anti free speech and pro censorship. Not to mention "hollier than thou" attitude that he adopt today.

[@phoenixfire8226]

Trump scammed people with Trump University therefore we must actively destroy every system and principle this country was founded upon in order to see he never comes close to power again. Let us ignore those who would claw their way to the top in the confusion. They're no threat, I promise. They're the good guys, trust me. Blue checks on Twitter are intelligent, adversarial journalists to the permanent state, take my word for it. Dead kids in the basement? Trump might try to sell me some shitty steaks. Yuck. Sam is an intelligent person. It is incredible how a mind like his can be so thoroughly broken by TDS, but it really makes you wonder if Sam can succumb to it then how easily lesser men did, too.

[@SaintNarcissa]

I thought so as well. I had trouble following his thought train and the accusations without any evidence was disingenuous. There are a few times he starts to form a coherent thought and then immediately drops into TDS/Alex Jones hate.

[@77Avadon77]

@@yudhiadhyatmikosiswono9082 Trump really broke a lot of people including very intellectual people. They had it in their mind that society would continue on a certain course and when trump put a halt to that it really damage them. Probably living under 4 years of a president you despise is enough to do that to many people. We really are 2 different countries forced to occupy the same space.

[@scix8794]

Which ideas do you find unjustifiable?

[@paddycoleman1472]

I was not sure about posting on this video but I have a genuine question. Firstly, I am no fan of President Trump and admit he can be brash, divisive, controversial etc. However, what exactly did he do wrong during his time in office? Trump did not start any wars, the US economy was strong and providing opportunity to many, he was trying to get a grip on illegal immigration, he promoted American self reliance on energy and no doubt many other things. Was Donald likable? Probably not and his use of Twitter was very questionable. I am not sure any of this is reason to circumvent democracy. As for the Biden administration, it is far too early to see how history will remember his presidency. America has a buckling economy, a proxy war in Ukraine, 40 year highs in inflation, tensions with China over Taiwan, an even more divided nation. Is this really a better situation? Playing Devil’s Advocate…

[@hendrikbotha665]

Precisely! Asking a leftist what Trump has actually done so wrong is an excersize in futility. The best they can come up with is 'awful tweets'. Just the same with asking them to define a woman. No coherent answers.

[@coyotefever105]

Also Operation Warp Speed. The crazy son of a bitch actually got us a vaccine

[@hanamlchl]

Sam dismissed policy outright in the interview. There is nothing Trump did, nor could he do, to earn redemption in Sam's eyes for past sins.

[@topdog5252]

Pulling out of the Paris climate deal seemed not good.

[@SB-fh3sv]

but somehow he was a wrecking ball 😂

[@lucyfures9957]

This is as Sam Harris himself described here his "Spectacular moment". Everyone sees him for what he is ...., A truly awful individual with an intolerant personality. He is everything he projects Trump to be.

[@0ijm3409fiwrekj]

exactly!

[@blittercopper]

Right on !

[@ordoabchao4202]

Trump completely broke him. Amazing to behold.

[@motorhead48067]

Certainly not everything he “projects” Trump to be lol. Sure you can disagree with his take here and even think it is hypocritical, but you seem to making an intellectual and moral equivalency between Donald Trump and Sam Harris, which is just stupid honestly 😂

[@Biggiiful]

@Jimmy Googer. I can't equate Trump and Sam's morality? You're right. One is a self righteous narcissist with authoritarian views. The other is a self righteous narcissist that was called an authoritarian with no proof for 6 years.

[@EvidenceOfTheDivine]

Harris's biggest issue is arrogance. He is terrified of being wrong, (so wrong) on any given issue. His mind will go into a pretzel before accepting he was incorrect. You can tell everything about him from that "someone is wrong on the internet" meme. He has become a laughing stock.

[@LeutnantJoker]

And being that unable to admitting being wrong is exactly the opposite of intellectual honesty. Which makes his opening statements even more laughable.

[@tomghzel]

Me and my gf are reading comments and she said: that must be a German!

[@EvidenceOfTheDivine]

@@tomghzel I'm Mexican. Your GF makes a lot of false assumptions... (Just like Harris does.)

[@ordoabchao4202]

@@tomghzel as a German I can attest that pretzels are awesome 👌🏻

[@philosphorus]

@@LeutnantJoker Did you go to Stanford?

[@BricksAndSparrows]

I’m surprised (and a little saddened) by how people can’t get beyond Sam’s Trump take. First of all, he opened by saying (and reiterated, later) that he wasn’t sure what the right call was. So he took the opposing side against the opinions of the interviewers. Did you really just want to hear agree? Do you need that validation? That being said, I think it is clear Sam probably would have suppressed the laptop story if it was his call, but even so, he’s such an excellent opponent of wokeism. Crying “TDS” is such a cop out and if you are doing it, you’re every bit as soft, simple and reactionary as the blue haired fatsos that cry “transphobia” and “fascist” at the people who disagree with them.

[@notsmine9191]

You aren't very smart, are you.

[@BricksAndSparrows]

@@notsmine9191 Questions are punctuated with question marks, not periods. Good try though.

[@notsmine9191]

@@BricksAndSparrows That wasn't a question, it was rhetorical. But thanks for proving the point.

[@BricksAndSparrows]

@@notsmine9191 It was a rhetorical what? To answer your question, I don’t know about “very smart”. I am thoughtful, though.

[@SamNL]

@@notsmine9191If you aren’t gonna give a response of substance you just show he is right. I completely agree with OP. If someone is gonna call it TDS, fine, but show why. Or is any criticism suddenly TDS? Such a cope.

[@DoroteoVilla]

…back for more. Sam Harris claimed that Trump’s first term was “bad” and a second Trump term would be “worse”. I am a simple man, not a famous writer and intelectual. The Trump economy was very good for me and millions of middle class Americans and sans Covid, there is every reason to believe that a second Trump term would have been just as good. Instead, we are mired in the worst economy in the United Sates since Jimmy Carter’s. I am probably going to have to work an extra five years at minimum because Sam Harris and people like him were scared. He and the people like him have subjected us all to a fate worse than scary Tweets and now this cabal, because it is NOT a normal administration (if you believe Biden is the actual President then you haven’t seen so much as one of his public appearances) . Record inflation, spikes in crime, impossible to find housing , lingering supply chain problems, etc. Things are not going well under this administration and they are getting worse. People are struggling and all because they were scared of his Tweets.

[@ordoabchao4202]

Spot on. I'm not American but I don't get how anyone still can pretend that Biden was better than Trump in any way (or in fact that Trump was bad to begin with)... You forgot to mention the botched Afghanistan withdrawal that cost 13 Marines and hundreds of locals their life and left billions worth of war machinery to the Taliban. Or the fact that we have a war in Europe under Bidens watch. While Trump stood for global military disengagement and peace efforts (Abraham Accords, meeting Kim Yong Un and successfully deescalated on the Korean peninsula)..

[@ninjaskeleton6140]

The USA was objectively better off under Trump than it is under Biden. The world was better off with Trump calling the shots. Biden has been a disaster. I don’t know what Harris is talking about. For someone who claims to value reason and logic, he doesn’t seem to care much about numbers and statistics, or objective reality.

[@dereksbooks]

Sam doesn't care about any of this. He's too rich to care about the cost of groceries or oil. These are working class concerns that out of touch elitists like him do not understand. He and Bill Maher wanted an economic collapse to get rid of Trump. See how much they care about the actual sufferings of real people?

[@jshaers96]

I agree that you're a simple man. You can thank Obama for the good economy, not that you will dream of doing any such thing. The economy is adding jobs at a record rate and inflation is going down. I respectfully suggest you pull your head out of your ass and look at the real situation, not the fever dreams they give you on Fox News.

[@jstnjeergdss]

But what you are failing to realize is that the 2 years BIden has been in office have little to nothing to do with the ebbs and flows of a global economy. You'd have a stronger argument levying your criticism against Trump, or Obama, or Bush, or better yet...Reagan's administration, which mortgaged all of our futures on asinine economic theory.

[@kempie9901]

Sam’s case of TDS and arrogance led him to believe that his arguments were sound and that people would be on his side. He does not even see the blatant hypocrisy and authoritarian tendencies he now portrays. Thank you guys for letting him expose himself.

[@darlenegriffith6186]

Calling Sam Harris authoritarian when you look at the authoritarian politics of the right wing is rather ironic.

[@SvensktTroll]

@@darlenegriffith6186 Well he believes that its okay to control information so people vote as he wants because he knows better.

[@shinobi-no-bueno]

@@darlenegriffith6186 who have the republicans attempted to block from running in/winning an election?

[@kempie9901]

@@darlenegriffith6186 listen sweet cheeks. I’m sure that made sense when you wrote it, but you seem to either have a misunderstanding of the word ironic or how to use it. Either way, I’ll pray for you. #Trump2024

[@darlenegriffith6186]

@@SvensktTroll Harris believes that private companies have the right to run their companies as they choose and enforce their terms of service. Trump started truth social as a new platform. He had every right to do so. In fact, he can do the hard work of building up his social network just like Twitter. There's no one being oppressed here and no one being silenced. It's just how capitalism works.

[@donaldlacombe84]

I've been hearing a lot about Sam Harris recently and was curious about his views. Thank you, FF & KK, for saving me the trouble of investigating further.

[@mrmorksstuff]

I was thinking the same thing...heard much about him but not from him. I got through half of it (Trump stuff) then that was enough.

[@pdcdesign9632]

Finally, an ADULT GUEST in this show. Sam does not pull any punches. Let the Trump fanatics toil in their misery. 🙄

[@raskolnikov6443]

@@pdcdesign9632 why spam the same comment everywhere? Pathetic.

[@Atomb]

I actually had a ton of respect for him, going back years. Wow. That was ugly.

[@BigDaddyDru]

@@Atomb same

[@sullacicero2610]

Trump living rent free in his head.

[@Eversca]

I don't think I've ever seen him less coherent and articulate. The cognitive dissonance is really gumming up his synapses. It's kind of astounding how feeble he is now, having not listened to him for a few years. He used to be so persuasive and clever that even on issues where I fundamentally disagreed with his stance, he would really make me rethink and struggle with those issues. He sounds like a confused doddering old man now.

[@andrews.5212]

Hey hey don't talk like that of the POTUS! xD xD

[@snorgonofborkkad]

I relate to this sentiment a lot. He comes off confused and emotional. He never sounded like that in the past.

[@Azrael1486]

@@andrews.5212 TDS ate up his brain. Sad

[@sbeast64]

Covid brain fog?

[@ericlefevre7741]

The take on Hunter Biden and the dead kids was not even his worst take. That dubious honor belongs to his.....explanation...of why all the wokeness intensified right as Christianity collapsed in the west. It was the most meandering, poorly thought out, dear in the headlights answer i have ever heard him give.

[@johnmichael8368]

I have never seen someone who actually tries to act like he is being rational and is totally irrational It is insanity

[@karmichaelblue]

It’s very common for irrational people to act like they are rational

[@intrepid-crossing2356]

we have a name for them, "douche"

[@mkooij]

@@karmichaelblue OP's point is that people usually aren't that good at acting rational

[@motorhead48067]

Almost everyone on the planet who is behaving irrationally thinks and acts as though they are being rational.

[@norn5112]

😂 perfectly said. The insane are running the asylum.

[@OperativeKANE]

I'm so glad for this interview happening. Letting Sam Harris talk is the best argument against claims of his wisdom.

[@jeffk464]

Yeah, I think he did a lot to harm his credibility in this interview.

[@MrJasnotron]

@@jeffk464 he's always been this way. This just exposes it to more people because it was about Trump and not religion.

[@pulmo1]

Is this the product of a public intellectual? I think not.

[@your_belief_vs_everything]

Agreed. Holy shit this guy is beyond ridiculous.

[@sHaNeR766]

Even the most "intelligent" minds can become deranged to the point of throwing away any moral common sense. Lost any respect I had for Sam.

[@KrisRobinson]

So far all I've learned about Sam Harris is that he believes in democracy, just as long as people vote the way his incredible ego thinks they should. What an unhinged individual. He definitely improved X the day he deleted his account.

[@TheExpeditionUK]

"unhinged" is the exact word that came to mind while listening to him

[@btwimo]

This was so eye opening. I had not realized how authoritarian a rational person like Sam Harris has become. I would have also asked "you talk about all this destruction and danger that Trump caused with his first term, can you give me some examples?" His absolute indifference for "anyone else" to have the reigns of power regardless of their corruption also shows how superficial his understanding is of alternatives.

[@JAdino]

Enforced objectivity and authoritarianism are cousins.

[@bodysuitguy]

He thinks he's smarter than everyone else. This career ending interview proves he's very wrong.

[@jutsu1]

He would put people in a camp.

[@mdb9933]

Whose the NAZI now?

[@jmh31890]

Dude thought that Trump being democratically elected would've been worse than children being raped...

[@itsa-itsagames]

He said the quiet part out loud... These intellectuals dont care about democracy or your right to choose who governs you and Sam is doing some GIANT backtracking

[@Tounushi]

Of course they don't care about democracy, because it means the plebs would be making the big decisions rather than just the enlightened intellectual elite. The same elite who think their position entitles them to rule on the lesser people's behalf as they see fit. It's always a big shock for them to notice they really aren't superior to the layman or when the layman isn't as petty and stupid as they've convinced themselves to believe.

[@jingbadatti9956]

100%, they would rather we be ruled by so called "experts" than anything else.

[@scottttym]

Cognitive Dissonance is a helluva drug...

[@tommystizzle6560]

They think we are not smart enough to know who to vote for and what is right.

[@adamimberti6948]

He is the perfect encapsulation of the arrogance and pomposity of these elite leftist. I have more respect for corrupt charlatans like Biden and Clinton that I do for this arrogant dickhead.

[@sliceyy]

The contempt in Sam's eyes when Francis challenged him said it all.

[@danladking9788]

What was timestamp

[@byronbranch4645]

Yeah whats the time stamp on that?

[@testudo2185]

In

[@kay12345]

@@testudo2185 I guess around 37:37

[@FolstrimHori]

I don't see it. I did notice that there's absolutely no soul in his eyes though, much less a conscience.

[@indiemagnet]

Still a fan (because intellectual honesty doesn’t require you defenestrate someone because they made a point you disagree with. It seems irrational the ppl who are like “I used to like, respect, value Sam Harris for his contributions BUT NOW😤 I won’t listen to anything else he has to say bc of this SINGULAR interview😂 why is nuance so hard for the human brain?? Why can’t it arrive at I STILL value all those things previous contributed but on this point is an example of consequentialist thinking in error. Nuanced thinking of this sort is how you inoculate against cancel culture…it’s okay to say I agree with someone 80% of the time and there are topics where I VEHEMENTLY disagree..that’s how I feel about Ben Shapiro although I haven’t checked my percentage spread in a while 😅 when did things get so all or nothing?

[@mclovinmclovin5395]

No. What seems irrational is Sam Harris. Someone whose only claim to prominence is : rationality.

[@davidtuer5825]

I don't think Sam Harris is too big on nuances.

[@poohbeartube]

"why is nuance so hard for the human brain??" That's a very good question. So good in fact that I Googled it and found the following. Nuanced thinking often requires openness, empathy, and the ability to critically analyze complex information, which can be demanding for some individuals. Because they don't think for themselves they don't learn how to see multiple facets of a situation. People hate nuance because its hard to understand. It makes things uncertain. You can't neatly organize nuanced ideas and you can't easily categorize people when their beliefs are nuanced. This gets frustrating for simple minds. That said, not everyone hates nuance. Some love the complexity and enjoy the finesse required to navigate the subtle details of people, ideas, or art. "when did things get so all or nothing?" Concurrently with the tendency to not engage in conceptual or analytical thinking, as the modern education system, the media and society in general don't encourage it, hence it's a race to the bottom with everyone becoming progressively more stupid.

[@victorloops3165]

I followed Sam for years and respected him. It is today that my opinion of him has changed. He and his line of thought is literally part of the problem and the reason why this country has had such a HUGE moral decline.

[@eattabagovdix7169]

"You must elect MY candidate or you are a Nazi" and "everything done to stop the Nazis is ok by me"

[@victorloops3165]

@Joe and The Ho Gotta Go You think that's bad? I voted for Biden! I admit it, I was part of the problem. NOT ANYMORE!

[@RenlangRen]

Keep in mind the neoconservatives have the same mindset. Both the modern left and right advocate lying and misrepresenting the truth. America is doomed unless enough people decide that the truth is important.

[@victorloops3165]

@@RenlangRen I see republicans are easily able to have a conversation whereas the left (any left) do not know how to converse. If one side refuses to have a conversation it's all for nothing. I left the democrats. They supported my thoughts but gave no reasons. I was just a sucker....

[@AntholKinsidiousFoul]

Took you tell today?

[@fptuber]

So sad to watch the man who I used to consider one of the brightest intellectuals of our time first praises himself for his intellectual honesty, and then proves exactly the opposite throughout most of the interview. Awesome work by F&K to allow him to do that.

[@storm7617]

How so?

[@abobonickname5696]

He was never the brightest. He is one of the biggest scam worshipped by atheists

[@topdog5252]

I don’t get what you mean.

[@raskolnikov6443]

Yeah they must have been shocked lol

[@richl4761]

Thought the same. His true colors are shining through.

[@cecilcharlesofficial]

"Trump is *so* bad that I just *HAD* to give up my moral convictions (you know, the things you used to esteem me for)... don't you see?" "Yeah, but actually, when you look at what Trump did versus what Bide-" "Did I say Trump was 'so bad?' I meant ' *so, so* bad.' Don't you see?" "Actually not really." "Did I say "so, so bad?" I meant, " *So, so, so* bad." Do you get it yet?" "..."

[@dereksbooks]

He could have spared himself and the audience so much time by just shouting, "Orange Man Bad!"

[@object764]

To paraphrase he sees half the population as a basket of deplorables.

[@jayg9460]

I’ve been a paying subscriber of Sams for years and cancelled my subscription after this interview. So disappointing. Such an intelligent guy that has made a living pointing out how ideology poisons ones thinking and somehow he has fallen victim to the very thing he warns about. I don’t care if he is anti trump, but he is now in defence of the very machinery that has lied about and smeared him in the past, because now it’s destroying his political enemies.

[@jimtunney5371]

Me too , but a while back

[@bobbycecere1037]

Bias is a son of a bitch. It doesn't care how smart you are, it'll blind you regardless

[@johnzander9990]

I canceled last year.

[@abumansaray7]

You waited this long? Sam has been saying dumb shit for the past 4 years

[@extratroppo437]

c'ya

[@adammilne1341]

When it comes to trumps Twitter ban, Sam is using libertarian free association arguments, which are fine, but he would never support those arguments in any other context. In reality, the government already says businesses can't discriminate against their customers, why would Twitter be any different?

[@tinyknott]

Plus that Twitter is enjoying a legal liability shield from the government with section 230. If Twitter wants to take a political stance, by all means, but it has to renounce its status and privilege as a public carrier in that case.

[@cendrizzi]

Yeah, it's always been amazing how the left is for free association when it suits them and never are otherwise. I don't think the right is great consistently on this either, but at least has some among its ranks that are pretty solid (well the more libertarian among them at least).

[@LordRykard9376]

Also, Twitter is publicly traded and receives tax breaks. At that point, the government does in fact get a say. Also, Sam can't reconcile how blogs, publishers, and social media platforms work or skirt around legal requirements.

[@adammilne1341]

@@cendrizzi the only ones consistent on free association are people who are openly against it (authoritarians, traditionalists etc) and anarchists (usually ancaps)

[@RavenNiffler]

I came here to present this exact same argument!

[@davidphillips8674]

I admired Harris until this interview. He is officially off of my list of respected intellectuals. I'll never understand how he can't see that Trump is a symptom, not a cause. You really have to have your emotional blinders on to miss that. Its also very apparent in his demeanor that he has acquired a bit of arrogance over the years. Trump represents the middle America that watched their economic opportunities disappear while they sent their kids to die overseas in the war on terror. The Bretton woods world order is not absolute nor is it sustainable.

[@nicklasparbstsrensen4294]

Symptoms still need to be treated to save the patient.

[@CBT5777]

Trump said he could shoot or murder someone in broad day light and still not lose any voters. Sam is just talking the same language. Don't you get it?

[@Ciph3rzer0]

It's both. And I think Yang would agree. Without trump Jan 6th would have never happened, no shot. And you guys are honestly kind of being silly. Because standing against Trump right now is standing against the force behind him, which I have no problem calling fascism.

[@D1it4FN]

I think that's extremely astute observation about Trump. He absolutely is a symptom of a problem that continues to dog Western Society. I don't know if you're referring to the same issues that are in mind to me but I think people are just so sick of political correctness and now this woke crap Donald Trump has been a breath of fresh air. On the other hand I tend to agree wholeheartedly with Sam's assessment of Donald Trump. I think he has been consistent in his view of the man.

[@AndreComtois]

@@Ciph3rzer0 without Pelosi, Jan 6th would never have happened. Get your facts straight.

[@marli-ngataijohnson4025]

Help me understand; Does Intellectually honest mean intellectually stupid these days?

[@14docmurph]

I never thought Sam Harris could ever be so oblivious to how crazy he's sounding.

[@Robespierres_Ghost]

He's gone to the dark side. Or maybe he was much better at hiding it years ago.

[@Slarti]

He is demented, he did not mention one specific thing that was bad about Trump. He is unhinged with regards to Trump.

[@funsmart]

I am not surprised because I saw it coming years ago, in his spat with Noam Chomsky. At the time, instead of TDS, his problem was that he had an abiding religious faith in the benevolent intentions of the US military empire. He just couldn't, and wouldn't, wrap his planet-sized brain around the idea that the US military might have a wanton disregard for the human life, and that those who control the military might have less than beautiful intentions for the world.

[@grannyannie2948]

@@Robespierres_Ghost I saw this side of him many years ago. In a podcast he berated Douglas Murray for going on a different podcast as the podcaster had also interviewed someone who's views Sam objected to.

[@barrydworak]

@@djknox2 I don't think he's ever met Donald Trump. Trump literally can't have broken his brain. He broke his own. Exactly what role Trump as an abstract archetype played in that, is hard to say. But Trump the actual human being didn't do anything to SH's brain.

[@TheTiamatian]

This was remarkable . Sam Harris is no where near as smart as he has convinced the world he is. I have just watched his reputation as a great thinker disintegrate before my eyes. Well done Fransis and Konstantin for managing to stay on your seat and listen to this tripe . 👏

[@kenjoneslee]

You are totally wrong about Sam. He's the one calm, well reasoned voice among many inconsistent screamers. And I don't believe all his opinions are true, but he at least tries to use consistent logic.

[@berserkr81]

Sam Harris is very intelligent, but if you have never read Intellectuals & Society by Thomas Sowell I highly recommend it. Some of the most disastrous events in human history have been committed by people like Harris.

[@mickadams1905]

TDS really affects clear thinking. I know because I had it for about 6 months. The fact that a dummy like me could see though it and a "genius" like Sam is completely lost in the brain rot is just another little red pill to nibble on. Sam is completely lost at this point.

[@chrisrodriguez1789]

or,,,,youre in a cult and dont see it

[@hartia4584]

or maybe if you think the hunter biden laptop has anything to do with Joe Biden then you are not as smart as you think you are?

[@4Liberty4Justice4All]

I felt like I was watching a documentary where they wanted to give a living example of "elitism" and "trump derangement syndrome" trapped in one man's formerly sane mind.

[@trentntb]

There is no question that elites will rule you, but what kind matters.The Trump Derangement Syndrome? Lol Show your cards why don't you.

[@tres311]

The worlds smartest reeetard. It was one of the most petty and moronic takes from someone who’s supposed to be an intellectual and deep thinker. His answers were that of children, like he never gave a second of thought to any position he stands on. Outstandingly unimpressive

[@notbrad4873]

Trump derangement syndrome*?

[@davyprendergast82]

Quite the opposite, a neuroscientist who recognises a dangerous psychopath has manipulated cult followers into giving him power. He's exactly right. Nothing to do with being left either btw. This is a common opinion among rational people in the middle ground and on the right. He has a cluster B personality disorder and should be nowhere near power. Anyone who understands personality disorders can see it so clearly.

[@btwimo]

I hope Sam sees this interview in 5 years and realizes how uninformed he sounds in respect to the accomplishments of the first term and the absolutely Goebbles-esque reality warping, gaslighting efforts by 90% of the media

[@pinnacleroofing9841]

"Every screw is loose with him" can you name one? "I have no doubt that he's actually racist" Can you point to an instance?

[@lwilliams3285]

Too many people have inflated this guys ego for years by telling him how smart he is. He's undeniably smart on some topics, but has pretty severe personal biases that allow him to sit there and contradict himself like this. It's actually hard to watch someone being so smug in their delusions of grandeur and cognitive dissonance.

[@Biodelic]

He is not smart, he is intelligent (or something in that way). He knows a tomato is a fruit, but he doesn't know not to put it in a fruit salad.

[@racheljames7]

He's not smart. He's just capable of parroting clever sounding bollocks.

[@1247.cccccc]

@@lucasley20 I noticed his voice and pacing was the same when saying retarded and nasty things.

[@AmazingStoryDewd]

@@racheljames7 you don't get a PhD in neuroscience by being a half wit. Unfortunately intelligence does not protect you against being emotional or irrational. Basically being human.

[@weltschmerski]

And if you know anything about projection, your observation points to why he despises Trump so much.

[@bobchristie7464]

Massive respect to Konstantin & Francis for keeping their cool. This was really hard to listen to.

[@shadforthw3535]

Omg- for sure!

[@blumperjoe8920]

I've subbed now because he had the balls to push back but also listen to what he has to say

[@MrCrazyjoe259]

Agreed, and hello fellow Arizonan! 😄

[@dereksbooks]

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. Let Harris walk into his own deathtrap.

[@trystdodge6177]

@@dereksbooks spot on

[@joevolcano6720]

"Sam doesn't believe in God, but he believes in the devil - and it's Trump" - Dave Rubin

[@mtmcas]

Laugh Out Loud

[@mtmcas]

So true!

[@zoeshannon9509]

This is a brilliant quote by Rubin

[@AGirlofYesterday]

May have some veracity, but consider the asinine source 🤣

[@almcdonald8676]

No because that’s an ad hominem. Which in truth merely reveals your own asininity

[@ready2]

Wow. I never really followed Sam Harris so this comes as a surprise to me but he's not only dishonest, but completely lacks integrity and even logic and is totally governed by blind emotions based on either sheer ignorance or political and ideological motivation. Sad.

[@kimstruck910]

Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris couldn't agree on the meaning of "truth". Listening to Harris speak candidly makes it apparent that he was the wrong person to discuss truth with. I don't think he grasps truth or reality. Triggernometry let him reveal himself, well done.

[@beastofthenumber6764]

well, i can put that more on peterson fault, than harris

[@skipfluck4299]

So Sam is basically saying, that everything is on the table, if it means it will prevent Trump getting elected again. This is scary thinking, from such an intelligent man. This thinking sets a dangerous precedent, and who gets to tip the scales. Wow Sam.

[@wfjhDUI]

He's right though.

[@bertrandrussell894]

Everything? I understood him to say a private company can remove his abilty to destroy private individuals, override the democratic process to the point of crying foul about election results and even empoering a cadre of people prepared to actually use force to take over government buildings. It is a bitter pill to do this as I am a proponent of free speech but it does have its limits as I say, and they could be more even-handed with whom they do it, but the man did need reigning in as he did irreparable damage to Americas reputation around the world. He made toxic so many subjects also. He did some good, too, and I agreed with much of what he said as Sam also said ( though Trupm said it very poorly). I wont detract from that, but he was not and is not Presidential material.

[@emekaezeagu9853]

He isn't intelligent. He just has fine words. Intelligence is a different kettle of fish.

[@bertrandrussell894]

@@emekaezeagu9853 You are free to disagree with him for your own reasons, but even his most ardent critics would say he was intelligent. T To suggest he is not, when he so obviously is, betrays something about your own attempts at reasoning.

[@theinngu5560]

@@bertrandrussell894 he may have intelligence but certainly not wisdom..one of the most boring podcasts I’ve ever listened to ….switched off several times and switching back on he was still monologuing about the same thing ..real verbal diarrhoea

[@topherzac777]

I have to add: Sam is now officially part of the problem, not the solution.

[@salvatoriom7422]

Sam isn't a problem, there's a dozen more ppl like him willing to take his spot. The problem is people got a taste of progressiveness, and they completely forgot about the ground they were standing on, and they just keep pushing the boundaries, when they need to take a step back, and remember what got us here in this advanced society. It's a corrupt version of progressiveness. Destroy the idea, not the person.

[@topherzac777]

@@salvatoriom7422 agreed and well put.

[@equallawandorder5393]

👿👿👿

[@davidabkk]

Can anyone sum up what happened for someone (me) who's lazy/busy to watch this today?

[@ebnrong]

@@davidabkk Actual Justice Warrior has a pretty good analysis on it

[@PaperGrape]

Trump? Provocative to the left? Boy, Sam missed the boat. Like woke wouldn't be here if Trump never won. Give me a break. How naive can you be?

[@NoThankYouToo]

This guy is utterly psychotic. I’ve never held against Harris being born into hundreds of millions of dollars, thus allowing him to engage in utter idolatry and frivolity and self serving nonsense with no fear of starving. That was a terrible mistake on my part.

[@bgarbled]

You are not alone... it's like he microwaved his head but somehow retained that pompous tone and manner of speaking.. he sounds soooo high on hearing his own voice.. the introduction they gave didn't help, however it may have been strategic in order to lower his guard completely.. I like how the hosts talk very little, do not lead and just let their guests go on about themselves

[@mark4asp]

He basically sounds like any British toff too :- conceited, narcissitic, vainglorious.

[@FolstrimHori]

@@mark4asp an utterly apt comparison given the UK's track record of defending pedophilia and child abuse.

[@DefineHatespeech]

@@FolstrimHori and the us government as well as the entire democrat party embracing grooming and pedophilia

[@anonymoustoo4945]

yep … he has NO IDEA what it feels like to be a normal American … he is textbook left/commie

[@DeaconShadow]

Funny watching “Triggernometry” get triggered by Sam pointing out that Trump and Alex Jones are essentially the same person.

[@anybody2501]

Francis & Konstantin: Sam, isn't it hypocritical to support undermining democracy in the name of preserving democracy? Sam: No, because the orange man is bad! 😡

[@wfjhDUI]

It really is that simple though and we don't care that you cultist freaks are upset about it.

[@dmitrykazakov2829]

He agrees with his policies, but thinks he is unfit for office. 🤣 There is an old Russian anecdote stereotyping Georgians and this sort of logic. Konstantin probably knows it and could cite to Sam with Georgian accent: - Givy (a common Georgian male name), do you like tomato? - Eating them? Yes. Otherwise, not much.

[@asdisskagen6487]

This is probably the best summary I have read on this particular interview

[@JB43186]

As my grandpa used to say, “I’d like to buy him for what he’s worth and sell him for what he thinks he’s worth.”

[@asdisskagen6487]

@@JB43186 😂😂😂😂

[@MultiWolfxxx]

Never ever have i felt this appalled. Mainly with myself for misjudging Sam Harris this badly. This is literally sickening.

[@ashleystovalldaman]

Holy shit me too

[@Jack-jr1yv]

I realised last year when he did a podcast on vaccinations and claimed any of his peers that had any critique or disagreement with the vaccine and its roll out was either psychotic, schizophrenic or somehow mentally ill. That characterisation of people who disagreed with him was chilling to me.

[@hayharut]

looks like orange man was the revealing light, not only showed the corruption of government and media but also revealed how some of our "Great thinkers" are actually easily susceptible to cult indoctrination

[@demyx0067]

@@Jack-jr1yv Damn, that had actually left my memory hole, but came back now. He's truly gone mental

[@motorhead48067]

Same. I’m literally puking in your mom’s toilet bowl because I’m so literally sickened. Literally.

[@claudiotagini]

Intellectual honesty... which I consider being not only the most important trait in any personality, but to be absolutely above anything, the preceding prerogative to have in order to even participate in ANY discussion... so, I must applaud Sam Harris for publicly admitting (from 24:30 on, but especially from 37:00) that the 2020 Presidential elections had been unfair, that the political figures involved as well as the Democratic Party's colluding press knowingly cheated, and ultimately conspired to successfully alter the elections results.

[@colt1911cs]

I would like to thank sam Harris for his honesty here. He went full send here, and proved just how deep tds goes with these people. It was hot take after hot take, and just kept getting more ridiculous.

[@dereksbooks]

This wasn't honesty. We know that he wasn't trying to be honest but rather just slipped on a banana peel on camera. We know because he has tried to pretend that he never meant exactly what he just admitted in front of millions of people, that evil is justified when he side does it.

[@agsmom04]

He said the quiet part out loud and got caught so now he's backpedaling to save his career, face, etc...

[@nerthus4685]

I agree. At least during the interview, he was brave enough to be honest. Now we know who he is and that is good.

[@LiMortacciSuaSempre]

Hot take after hot take and getting worse exactly my thoughts

[@design7054]

Imagine 15 years ago at the height of the 'Four Horseman of Atheism' imagining that *Donald Trump* would be the one to break one of those seemingly great men. Make them knock themselves of their own rational and ethical pedestal through sheer unhinged hatred and self-delusion.

[@jiaguel]

the only great man of the FHOA is already dead ;)

[@korbendallas8488]

I was never a fan of Trump (can't stand blowhards), but he's done a tremendous service to people everywhere. His ability to trigger the dormant authoritarians in our midst may be the thing that ultimately saves us all. What an amazing time to be alive

[@mickadams1905]

I miss hitch so much. Wow it would be interesting to see his take on this.

[@vlenzo5397]

Sam bitched down after hitchens

[@aaronsellers2396]

Christopher Hitchens was the greatest of them because he could actually respect his opponent. I'm reminded of his friendship with Doug Wilson in the movie "Collision".

[@johann5924]

I used to watch this guy in school being a snarky atheist, then slowly became intellectually alienated from him

[@TOUGHEYES]

Well the snarky Atheist will always shift over to the next figurehead, without ever having to acknowledge that they were publicly wrong about something. Reminds me of Catholics who protected abusive priests.

[@captainmaim]

@@TOUGHEYES I can't speak for your experience, of course, but in America the % of pedophiles in public schools is greater than the percentage in the Church. On the merits, you're right, The Catholic Church owns a number of monasteries on rocks sticking out of the North Sea and could have put all the pedo priests in those... but literally nobody understood that these guys can't get better at the time.

[@ccchicken8889]

Hopefully you've dropped the snarky athiest part too. It can be healed with maturity and time.

[@darlenegriffith6186]

Johann - Does that mean that you are now a theist,? Or are you an atheist who chooses not to be snarky? Or something else entirely?

[@LoliLikesPedobear]

@@TOUGHEYES brutal!

[@tomusmc1993]

Woof... the self importance of this guy is painful. Totally hear loud and clear how he is fine with the levers of power doing anything to secure an outcome he agrees with.

[@fuckwit6081]

It's the exact opposite, he wants a person who obviously abused his power to be pu ished for it.

[@tomusmc1993]

@@fuckwit6081 at any cost. If you want to posit that his sole interest is justice for his abuse of powe,, then both you and he need to show me his demonstrated zeal at holding George Bush, Barak Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, The NSA, The FBI, The CIA, and The CDC, (to list a few obvious players) accountable for their demonstrated abuse of power and corruption. As it stands all I see is someone willing to have power that is aligned with his politics and world view use that power in anyway conceivable to punish those he disagrees with. Hardly a well thought out or acceptable position.

[@kaboom146]

You weren't listening.

[@ssmmsmit222]

Is Sam seriously this intellectually blind to his own ideas? I am genuinely jaw dropped listening to him stumble through answering these questions about Trump v Twitter.

[@hanamlchl]

Go watch his opinions on recent health mandates on locals. It gets worse.

[@johnsoldmicrowave1247]

He's trying to manufacture consent among the people on the behalf of the managerial class (the current order), to which he belongs. They are existentially threatened by Trump and the plebs (their purported service unit, as it were). He's also not very good at it lol. Trump may be a lot of things but as soulless as the current order, that he is not. Go home. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIfOl5SoiL-pedk

[@thagomizer8485]

Yes, he is. I was an ardent supporter and fan of his for many years, but during the Trump years, his Twitter capture started to shine through. About a year ago he did a podcast explaining why he personally contacted Jack Dorsey to have Trump removed. This was shocking behavior from a one time personal hero. It was when he started raving about NFTs that I turned off the podcast and desubscribed from it and his meditation app. It hurts me to know how low Twitter and ego have dragged this once great man.

[@kenjoneslee]

The two T's are total worthless garbage. That's how they are similar. We would be better off without them.

[@jamesdarnel]

My nigga i was couldn't believe it either. #DAFUQ?!

[@whiteymcwhiterson3974]

Its amazing how the media has propagandized normally smart people to the point where they're simply NPC's who use bigger words and have longer winded explanations that ultimately ends up at the same "Orange Man Bad" conclusion. Imagine letting one man who you've never met in person completely control your ability to critically think. Way to go Sam, you did it!

[@Ciph3rzer0]

It's amazing how the chud universe has made a billion little Magapede automatons that simply boil any criticism of their big beautiful boy to TDS and "orange man bad" It truly is impressive how many of you barely functioning brainstems there are out there.

[@claytonjean6385]

Yup

[@paulmarshall3053]

Absolutely correct. I just cannot understand, especially with the latest FBI debacle, that people like Harris aren't even beginning to see what has been going on with the quest to finish Trump.

[@chrisrodriguez1789]

i know right? got so tired of all the 'mustache man bad' that happened in the 1950s. Ugh! come up with better arguments

[@hartia4584]

ironic, isn't that what the trump sheep do every day? they don't think they just do/say whatever trump tell them.

[@cuprashoe]

Can't believe I once admired Sam Harris. His complete lack of any self awareness is breathtaking

[@DindoNuffin-e2x]

His smugness screamed GRIFTER! at my first exposure.

[@wizard4203]

yep don't you feel sheepish haha

[@percyblok6014]

Saw him as a hack of sorrs several years ago. He's been high on hia own flatulence foe quite sometime.

[@lifeintheseam]

i always knew he was a shmuck

[@cuprashoe]

@@wizard4203 I'd say I'm more gullible than sheepish

[@johnwindisman2803]

Great interview. I love it when interviewers give time to the interviewee to complete a thought and not try to show how smart they are. Well done guys!

[@McD-j5r]

Yeah, yeah.

[@madzangels]

@@McD-j5r You are a plant pot

[@simonpratt1716]

Konstantin is a master of this and not just in interviews. I saw him on a panel show with a climate activist. His master stroke was to simply let the other party talk and if they undo themselves so be it.

[@hissingoose]

Man, this really highlights how much of a grifter hack Sam has been for quite some time. Glad so many people are seeing this.

[@1247.cccccc]

He is so steeped in TDS I have suggested he must have been the 'smart person' that wrote the book of anti-Trump talking points that all the smart people faithfully repeated. Sam's pain of rejection by the masses has evinced a definite hatred toward Trump supporters. He would make for a great District Court Judge in DC.

[@MariaPerez-uv8mm]

Me too

[@laxjs]

He’s literally the opposite of a grifter, if he was, the nature of this comment section would be entirely different. He’s too convinced of his own virtues to grift.

[@Macheako]

@@laxjs ok, then he’s a bad grifter, but believing it’s good to rob me..... Doesn’t help buddy 😂❤️

[@skepticalextraterrestrial2971]

@@laxjs Meh, a grifter can always try to sell something so outlandish that they fall on their face.

[@bassnut57]

Sam Harris, one of the people I've been following for years because of his intellictual honesty, courage and brilliancy suffers from TDS to the point where he breaks away from all of the things that I've admired him for. And I don't like Trump either. To borrow the idiom, Donald Trump lives rent free in Sam Harris' head.

[@andymore224]

They even gave him an opportunity to stop talking about the Orange man in this interview but he couldn't do it, he had to tell them that Orange man bad.

[@realMaverickBuckley]

I'm the same. I'd definitely vote Republican but I know Trump isn't an Angel but I genuinely used to respect Sam but I genuinely don't think anybody suffers worse from TDS than Sam Harris. It's just ruined him. He hates Conservatives and most of the left. . hate *him*. So he's in no man's land. Now I only hear of him when he's having another outburst like a few days ago he made a post like 'And then they took our Nuclear Secrets home and still I did nothing' after some lefty rag reported the FBI raided Trump for Nuke secrets, that went semi viral. 3 hours later it turned out to be fake. Does Sam take these down? Of course not. He allowed his audience to froth and boil over it and then moved on. This weekend those people will tell their friends how Donald Trump stole the Nuclear secrets... and on it will spread. I can't have respect for a man who calls himself a great thinker but falls, EVERYTIME, for the complete tosh the mainstream Liberal media put it out. Even though its shown to be lies TIME AND TIME AND TIME again. You lost it Sam. All because of your Ego.

[@trevorpullen3199]

@j4Rose He lost me when he threw one of his biggest allies under the bus (Bret Weinstein) by having multiple podcasts solely devoted to attacking Weinstein's views on the pandemic while also refusing to have a single conversation with him about it. He supposedly found Weinstein's views so dangerous that he couldn't give him an audience to discuss them. I don't know if it was Trump that broke him mentally, the pandemic, or both, but he's lost himself.

[@minorityblogger]

The deal with Harris is he fools people with his calm seeming demeanor and tone of his voice. He’s Always been a hypocrite and basically full of shit it’s just that it took bigger societal issues for him to be exposed. For instance, when he was selling everyone the so called “Atheist” movement pretending logic and reason he was and still is in reality a rabid Anti-Theist! People Need to listen to what he actually says more closely. For example hawking “meditation” is still his hidden inner anti theism coming through and listen to how he equates the mind with “code” and “software” etc etc. yet his soft tone still fools so many when he’s anything but calm and rational and unbiased. He’s an ideologue pretending not to be an ideologue!

[@matthewsinclair507]

Ditto.

[@williemurray1023]

Kudos to Konstantin for not letting him get away with those remarks without calling him out. Well done!

[@Colls515]

More than afraid to be wrong he is afraid to acknowledge his emotions. His reasoning came from a hysterical place during this interview

[@darlenes5406]

I wish they would have challenged Harris more.

[@AbiNomac]

Did ask a good question but why did he say f..k the children? He should have addressed that too.

[@1247.cccccc]

@@darlenes5406 I think they know how delicate little Harris is. They were like ants helping a peony bloom to open. We have the rest of Sam Harris' life for him to be challenged on his assholery. We will be entertained!

[@1247.cccccc]

@@AbiNomac I think he knew Harris wanted red herring to be addressed rather than the heart of the matter.

[@JordanFreshour]

I’ve never liked how Sam’s talked about Donald Trump, or Alex Jones, not because they aren’t worth being criticized, but Sam’s commentary is focused on the emotional reactions they provoke instead of trying to understand what it is attractive about them. I have never heard Sam take on Trump‘s ideas, nor Jones. Both are dismissed in the same emotional manner that characterizes the populism Sam claims to detest.

[@poohbeartube]

31:15 "I probably agree with half of his policies or more than half of his policies. It's not a matter of policy." That is not a dismissal but simply not the subject.

[@happyd9733]

Sam- We must have intellectual honesty about things we revile Also Sam - I was totally in favour of an intellectually dishonest conspiracy to prevent Trump being elected.

[@jmh31890]

Democratically elected *

[@SMacCuUladh]

once again YT won't let me see the reply to this comment, that's intellectually dishonest by them.

[@reltius2993]

@@SMacCuUladh youtube are the real fascists

[@dereksmith6713]

That was a telling line, unless he misspoke. I haven’t heard enough from him to be able to know if that’s really how he feels. Just based on this sit down, his hatred for Trump seems to be driving some of his logic.

[@ryanlucas3907]

He was this way in 2016. On Joe Rogan's Podcast he argued we should vote for Hillary because she was the Evil We Knew, and Trump was an Unknown. Think about that. That's when I lost respect for him. Glad more people are waking up. Sam is part of leftist tribalism 100%, he's just hidden it well for the most part.

[@colinmenniss]

This is a great interview. It exposes how so many lost their minds and clearly their principles over Trump. Lies and conspiracies are acceptable as long as they achieve the result I want. The hypocrisy! I used to really respect this man, I looked to him for guidance and answers about our world. For me he has irreparably damaged his reputation.

[@realMaverickBuckley]

Yup. Its fascinating. I'd definitely vote Republican but I know Trump isn't an Angel but I genuinely used to respect Sam but I genuinely don't think anybody suffers worse from TDS than Sam Harris. It's just ruined him. He hates Conservatives and most of the left. . hate *him*. So he's in no man's land. Now I only hear of him when he's having another outburst like a few days ago he made a post like 'And then they took our Nuclear Secrets home and still I did nothing' after some lefty rag reported the FBI raided Trump for Nuke secrets, that went semi viral. 3 hours later it turned out to be fake. Does Sam take these down? Of course not. He allowed his audience to froth and boil over it and then moved on. This weekend those people will tell their friends how Donald Trump stole the Nuclear secrets... and on it will spread. I can't have respect for a man who calls himself a great thinker but falls, EVERYTIME, for the complete tosh the mainstream Liberal media put it out. Even though its shown to be lies TIME AND TIME AND TIME again. You lost it Sam. All because of your Ego.

[@monk3110]

He takes so long to say nothing and I can’t take make it far into anything he does and I hate what I’ve gotten to. His take on free will is just comically dumb

[@leeroberts9091]

Same. Trump really broke him. I was so hard watching this.

[@jplb96]

'Lies and conspiracies are acceptable as long as they achieve the result I want'. Like trying to get an election overturned? I don't like Sam Harris but don't act like what you just said can't be applied to Trump or his ilk.

[@colinmenniss]

@@jplb96 you provide a further example of how even the word Trump affects people. There is nothing in my comment that defends Trump or even hints the slightest sympathy. 🙏

[@walterlippmann6292]

I never realized this because I haven't paid attention to Sam in probably 10 years, but he really says almost nothing when he speaks. He'll take 5 minutes to answer a simple question, constantly going on these little tangents to fluff up his sentences, but conveying very little real info. I had a feeling he was a pseudointellectual, but now I have confirmation. what a clown

[@elenabob4953]

What do you want, this is the trait of smug shallow so called intellectuals that overstretch what they know to appear deep and wise. You know, all of those farts the common people despises.

[@SB-fh3sv]

I thought the same thing. it is honestly to follow his explanation. They ask how he felt about twitter’s response to the Hunter Biden laptop and he starts his answer and pretty quickly says “let’s put that to the side”…and continues to go on about something but not the laptop. It was like he knew that he couldn’t explain his reasoning in an intellectual way so he didn’t want to touch it.

[@beephex1]

On any other topic, I have found him crystalline and efficient with words. On Trump, its soooo much hot air.

[@lukpo1997]

He IS not a good multidisciplinary thinker i would say

[@sarahtonin4649]

Yeah, when people don't understand what a person is saying, they are likely to claim that the speaker "isn't saying anything." It's better than admitting to any intellectual deficiencies.

[@huskypup3489]

"Trump is bad because I don't like him." -Sam Harris.

[@JohnDorian-j7x]

That's literally what every American ever has said about a President they don't like

[@Htimez2]

God Bless Triggernometry for pushing back against Sam Harris's BS and calling him out on his extreme bias and justification. That's why I am a fan and support these guys even though we may not agree on everything politically. I am on the conservative side of politics and they aren't, but I whole heartedly respect and appreciate this channel.

[@Ciph3rzer0]

Why is it BS? All news orgs at the time (and especially with hindsight) knew the laptop story was bunk. At a minimum, you can't trace the chain of custody and integrity of the data let alone if it came from Biden. I forget exactly, but we had like, Rudy Juliana had copies of a disk from a blind guy who made copies off of a laptop that said "hunter" on it dropped off by a guy he could not recognize and has no footage of and had NO REASON to be digging through the laptop that had no encryption or anything and had **some** legit emails and stuff on it that could have been gathered and planted from other sources but we won't really know because they didn't ever release the hard drive info out to non-hyper-conservstive spruces to verify. It's the most transparent October surprise plant that intentionally to sway the election I could imagine.

[@Ciph3rzer0]

Also if you ACTUALLY WATCH THE WHOLE THING. He explains what he means and they say nothing, going straight to commercial 😂😂😂 I don't think they disagree.

[@Conversations970]

I think they were too blown away by his blatant, articulate silver tongue......he was a bit "too much" for the trig boys. Not sure many people could push back on Sam. He is a piece of work. Love the philosophical spins that he does. His intelligence matters not, because he truly lacks wisdom of ANY kind

[@paperfart3988]

@@Ciph3rzer0 No, they clearly disagree, but they don't push back nearly enough because they don't want to get bogged down on one issue. It's not my show but I absolutely would rather hear them go deep on the one issue than just touch on many

[@supersonice4]

@8GarretttterraG8 they are congratulating him for one podcast he did 2 years ago dude.

[@machtnichtsseimann]

Options on Sam Harris: 1. He is far more ruled by emotion than he wants to admit about himself; he is intellectually dishonest with himself and the public. 2. He is trolling us, because he's so much better and smarter than us. 3. His zealous judgment against Trump + supporters, without humble and honest self-reflection as to how he might be guilty of the very same things he castigates in such "deplorables", is on the level of hypocrisy that goes beyond laughable to pathetic and dangerous.

[@thegeneralist7527]

I didn't know Harris was a communist. No wonder he fell out with Peterson. Lol! Peterson walked out on him, to much greater success.

[@proudatheist2042]

@@thegeneralist7527 what makes you say that "Peterson walked out on Harris?" Dr. Peterson had Sam on his show a few mo the ago for another conversation.

[@Jbell101792]

Well said on point 3. Such shallow and lazy thinking, was very disappointed in Sam.

[@NativeNewMexican]

I never thought I'd see Sam Harris so blatantly show how immoral and politically inept he is.

[@besseljm1]

When you have no foundation for where your morality comes from, you can conveniently dismiss it in favor of "my truth" or "I know best because I said so".

[@transfiguration8865]

Where have you been since 2016?

[@Kampbell300]

He’s always been like this he just doesn’t try and hide it with very slow carefully thought out language

[@NativeNewMexican]

@@transfiguration8865 it was there, just not as blatant.

[@martinm6368]

@@NativeNewMexican some of his pinned tweets since Trump has been elected have shown this fairly blatantly.

[@FinalBossWTMN]

As usual, the Trump fans in this audience can't help but out themselves by whining about how upset they are hearing ideas they don't agree with.

[@arnaldobellucci9033]

A honest man that supports dishonesty when it helps his cause, in other words, a crook.

[@ryanlucas3907]

It's so much worse than that if you every read Sam's book about Lying. He's clowned himself.

[@darksu6947]

He's a hypocrite. One of the worst things a person could be.

[@jasondashney]

@@darksu6947 I couldn’t agree more that hypocrisy is one of the biggest sins. I would love to sit down with him and listen to him explain to me how Trump was a literal existential threat worthy of any and all tactics and that someone who literally murdered children would be better than him, and that his preference would be that the person who took over for him be a Democrat who is probably Woke, which he also admits is terrible and has taken over our education system, the corporate world, big tech, and the media. Bad takes are one thing, but the hypocrisy comes in when he talks about the importance of objective reasoning. I would love to sit down with him and have him steelman why someone would’ve thought that Trump would’ve made a good president, beyond just using it as a protest vote to blow the whole system up. You simply can’t champion gaslighting and authoritarianism for getting him out of office, and with talk about how great calm objective reasoning is and also how only literal ballot stuffing would count as election tampering.

[@thanksforbeingausefulidiot9016]

Are you talking about Trump?

[@SamuelSwaggerStep]

I can't believe how dumb all the Trumpanzees on this thread are. It's like you didn't listen to anything he said

[@squoblat]

It's a great shame to see what Sam has let himself become. There was a long period of time when he genuinely made me question my own ideas, something broke in him when Trump was elected and the man we all respected simply ceased to exist.

[@jziffi]

He's intelligent, therefore he sees through Trump's bullshit.

[@pablieto-veganson]

@@jziffi ofcourse, but i mean. he is throwing alot of his own professed principles out the window here. the children in the closet of hunter biden him not caring about. is taking of the mask right there, i mean c'mon man, enlightenment and all this stuff i remember him from. all out the window.

[@ikbo]

If you don't understand Sam's perfectly lucid and morally consistent anti trump stance and instead you lose respect for him then you unquestionably have a low IQ.

[@frederickarchibaldchumly-w2163]

I think he's got a little trump derangement syndrome

[@Vigula]

You're are joking, right? Everyone with half a brain cell can see through the bullshit. That's why Trump's so brilliant, because he meets the bullshit from the other side head on. That's why the Left can't stand him.

[@laydominican]

"They're just talking to themselves. And claiming they know things they don't know." And the rest of that rant. Lmao the irony. Someone hold a mirror to this man!