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NEVER buy 'Fragrance Oils' for perfumery. Buy these instead.

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Sam Macer

Sam Macer

Күн бұрын

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@laurenbray8314
@laurenbray8314 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a few Robertet natural bases on my PA list. Apple, Orris and Apricot. Another thing bases are good for is if you don't have a reference for how a really expensive natural like Orris butter smells for example. You can buy a really well done base and go off that when you're first starting out to get an idea of what that material might smell like for reference. It might have different nuances compared to the real thing but its close enough. Its also nice to use when formulating and trials instead of ever wasting expensive materials.
@sammacer
@sammacer 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah nice point! That's pretty much what I've done with rose and jasmine as I can't afford them at the moment. Even with those two I can tell it's not a perfect recreation but definitely seems like they should be a 'good enough' reference for concepting.
@wib6044
@wib6044 2 жыл бұрын
Yea same with me with oud. Liked it enough to buy the real thing. Eden Botanicals is a great company when just starting out. They have tiny samples and as of last time I ordered you get some for free depending on what you buy. Definitely saved me tons so far, a few oils I was so glad I didn’t end up with a bunch of.
@nickidaisydandelion4044
@nickidaisydandelion4044 Жыл бұрын
@@wib6044 I have bought a Lot from Eden Botanicals they are the world leader in plant based oils or at least one of the top leaders. I got a sample of Agarwood it smells Heavenly.
@relisbetrel
@relisbetrel 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I've been seriously pondering whether or not to get into the perfume industry recently. Your video is the first lesson I've learned this week lol.. I would like to sell body oils/perfume oils and thought I was really getting somewhere by buying the cheap fragrance oils... Luckily, I have only purchased two oils to test out before realizing something was completely wrong... "Horrible chemical scent" is not what I was going for. A little research blew my mind (your video confirms the importance of research) and I'm now waiting for a legit oil to be delivered from Mountain Rose Herbs. The real thing is definitely more expensive but absolutely necessary to produce a high quality product. Every dollar counts these days and it's best to spend wisely. Thank you!
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
No problem, I’m glad you’re avoiding wasting your money on those, it’s so easy to buy a load!
@nickidaisydandelion4044
@nickidaisydandelion4044 Жыл бұрын
I like Bentonite clay. I have added a little bit of Bentonite clay powder into some of my perfume oil mixes and it seems to make the perfume smell more organic and natural it also makes it safer for the skin. The scent appears even stronger. I believe that the clay powder binds even in powder form to some of the molecules in a way that it makes the molecular structure more complex. More like it occurs in nature. Rudolf Steiner talked about this a lot around 1900 that isolating chemical components out of plants and minerals is removing the molecules from a larger more complex molecular structure or chain and that changes the natural structure where it's no longer balanced. He emphasized that keeping natural molecular structures in their whole and complex form is necessary for our health, consumption and use in general. Same with white sugar for example they have removed the other good things from the sugar and isolated the white sugar or glucose molecules. The result is that white sugar actually docks onto the minerals and other nutrients in the person's body where is actually leaches out the minerals and vital molecules. That's what Steiner was warning us about. We should leave all substances from nature in their whole forms. Regarding chemistry it's impossible to prevent people from experimenting of course and creating new stuff. But as a general rule of thumb I like whole food and whole plant oils. But I will add the clay powder to the artificial scents to make them more whole. I also take hydrated Bentonite clay internally every day which helped me a whole lot. It binds, adsorbs, absorbs anything that is not natural into it's macro molecule and makes it safe.
@angelsbynoemi
@angelsbynoemi 5 ай бұрын
Question… mixing clay and water will grow mold and bacteria even with a preservative… i wonder if is the same about clay and oil mix?
@abunayyanf
@abunayyanf 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this information. I’m passionate about perfumes and have been collecting perfumes for 7 years. i just started a new hobby in perfumery and I made this mistake by buying fragrance oils but they really don’t work well. I’ll start looking for bases and will update this comment with the results 👍🏼
@sammacer
@sammacer 3 жыл бұрын
No worries, glad the video could help. Sorry you had to buy them but hopefully you will be able to find something of better quality. Good luck!
@jesussalas4974
@jesussalas4974 2 жыл бұрын
@@sammacer how do you create these bases yourself? Is there a way to know the chemical compositions of these naturals we're trying to re-create without being a chemist?
@daciasdiy1861
@daciasdiy1861 2 жыл бұрын
@@jesussalas4974 i was ginna ask the same thing ?
@wib6044
@wib6044 2 жыл бұрын
You can find with a little searching online. Perfumers apprentice will sometimes list the formulas of their accords and bases, typically when it’s student created. There are books, he did a video on. Other than that you have to create them yourself through trial and error. Ultimately you will be diving into using individual essential oils and aroma chemicals.
@daniellabuda7744
@daniellabuda7744 Жыл бұрын
I am so sad, I haven't seen you 2 years before, because I also did actually this particular mistake when I started getting deeper in perfumery I am passionate about. Now I am completely different person, than I used to be and I have earned some knowledge how perfume and cosmetic industry works... Very nice and informative vid, as always. You are really helping people understand perfume thing, keep it going.! Cheers and respect.
@sammacer
@sammacer Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@Icerblitz05
@Icerblitz05 3 жыл бұрын
This is how I started :). but when I start buying base, AC, absolute and EO its a different ball game. started learning and with in 5 months I was able to create a base accord. And the quality is so much better. and you can control how it evaporates and diffuses.
@erickittles1519
@erickittles1519 2 жыл бұрын
Where do you buy them?
@Icerblitz05
@Icerblitz05 2 жыл бұрын
@@erickittles1519 there are alot of supliers, it is mention in his video alot of time.
@Rob_2002_NCAA_Champion
@Rob_2002_NCAA_Champion 11 күн бұрын
​@@Icerblitz05just say it
@Synergy16
@Synergy16 26 күн бұрын
Can you make a video solely on 100% natural ingredients and the principles on how they should be used, in what form and who to buy them from
@bkscents7050
@bkscents7050 3 жыл бұрын
I feel for that mistake when I first started out too. I saw "Fragrance oils" was like half the price of the other materials....and was like "oh ill save money and buy these!". Sad Sad mistake when i first started, lol :(
@sammacer
@sammacer 3 жыл бұрын
I think everyone does to be honest. I'm sure people will watch this and still do it haha.
@MysticWearables
@MysticWearables 2 ай бұрын
I just bought fragrance oils, not a lot of them, but I even tested them today and was disappointed, so glad I found your page, tysm!
@mainframeonlinegamingtv3189
@mainframeonlinegamingtv3189 9 ай бұрын
Thanks man. I just got into this and wanted to make more soaps and solid perfumes. I was looking for a specific smell and bought a rum premium fragrance oil. Smells great but i knew it was something fishy about using I wanted to make. To good to be true
@SeedKreations
@SeedKreations 2 жыл бұрын
i made some fragrance oil mixes. and end up product smelled like victoria secret Angel. lasted long also. an i also mixed some aromachemicals and naturales and made something that smelled like lagerfield Jako. i think its a doble edge sword. it is true that FO arent 100 made for only perfumes, but u can make something pretty good out of it. depends the manufacturer and quality. it depends really. some aromachemicals smell pretty bad, others very faint smell, others alright, others pretty good, some very cheap other very expensive. depends again. perfumery is becoming more of a luxury . women prefer to buy 5 bucks 8oz body mist than spend 100 on an edp. the edp may have better ingredients but the smell is meh, ur paying more for the brand and image than the perfume compound. sad true. plus ifra restrictions, its becoming tighter to make quality perfume without spending a fortune.
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
Yep you’re completely right that it depends on the manufacturer and quality. I’m sure there are some great quality products out there marketed as fragrance oils but from what I’ve seen most are not usable in a high end perfume. And yes, many aromachemicals are weak etc but that that’s where the art of perfumery comes in; how do you compose them together. And of course, cost considerations are always important in perfumery. That’s why I try to make perfumes for my brand affordable; I know most people don’t want hyper expensive niche fragrances, just something that smells great at a good price.
@TheFragranceGuy
@TheFragranceGuy Жыл бұрын
A true quality channel
@sammacer
@sammacer Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@primaryodors
@primaryodors 2 жыл бұрын
Used to wonder why my perfumes always left a terrible soapy drydown... but then I said hey wait a minute, didn't most of these ingredients come from Bramble Berry. (They were gifts.)
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
Makes a lot of sense!
@valentino3980
@valentino3980 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, i really love and appreciate your information/videos so much. Please keep up the good work. =D
@sammacer
@sammacer 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@GrapeApe66
@GrapeApe66 Жыл бұрын
Yes…… I’ve done the thing your talking about. Thank you for this information 🙏👍
@sammacer
@sammacer Жыл бұрын
Great!
@FulguroGeek
@FulguroGeek 7 ай бұрын
there is some fragrance oil that smell freaking good... loran oils, P&J Trading's oils both are premieum grades fragrance oils.. with base it seams like i can never find a huge choice of option,,, specially that i would like to create something more candy like smell,i really like the Cola smell... tryed to find a cola base.... never found one anywhere, but fragarnce oil have this scent and smell amazing!
@jillianf8th
@jillianf8th 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative. I’m just getting started so this is great to know for sure! Thanks Sam!
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
No problem, glad I can help
@SouwaBeezy
@SouwaBeezy 4 ай бұрын
what about those great-smelling oud oils from Dubai? is it possible to turn those into fragrances?
@nowexit
@nowexit 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not that I don’t appreciate what you are saying but I do have to point out you’re not providing the whole picture here are you? Where as its true the fragrance oil industry have the ability to create scents not available in nature (candyfloss etc) it also makes exact replicas of fragrances out of reach unless you work for a major perfume house such as ambergris, Bulgarian Rose Oil or Champaca Absolute to name but a few. Also, the vast majority of fragrance oils include essential oils as part of their building blocks. There are hundreds of FO’s that are completely allergen free whilst there are no essential oils that are allergen free. You eluded that FO’s have fillers so more FO is needed, well that is mostly untrue as all people selling products that include FO are still required by law to adhere to the maximum percentages rates laid out by IFRA so nobody can just "add more". Mostly, to provide balance here, ALL the major perfume houses use fragrance oils and they will always use more FO's when particular essential oils become hard to find because of crop failure due to adverse weather or disease. Each to their own I say but you could argue that you’re being a little disingenuous here.
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but this is full of misinformation and contradicting assertions. I would advise you to do some research around perfumery raw materials and the fragrance industry.
@nowexit
@nowexit 2 жыл бұрын
@@sammacer I am part of the industry so please if you have any questions please ask away.
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
@@nowexit That sounds fantastic. What do you do?
@nowexit
@nowexit 2 жыл бұрын
@@sammacer I own a plant distillation farm in Southern UK. I produce essential oils and hydrolats (floral waters) to the cosmetic industry.
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
@@nowexit Fantastic. I think you misunderstood the video. Since my channel is about making fine fragrance, I'm sure you're aware that many grades of essential oil and fragrance oil are unsuitable for fine fragrance and marketed for aromatherapy, soap making etc. It is easy to misunderstand since there are too some suitable products marketed using the term "fragrance oil". In practice however, the novice fine fragrance perfumer who doesn't know better is all too easily sold on the countless products sold as "fragrance oil" on websites like amazon which were never meant for fine fragrance. I think you're misunderstanding since I did advocate "bases from reputable perfumery manufacturers", i.e. F&F industry bases designed for use in fine fragrance - I'm not counting these as "fragrance oils" in the context of this video. I also advocate using aromachemicals. What I am trying to advise is simply that most fragrant oils for sale are not suitable for fine fragrance and this is not clear for those without experience.
@UnseenUniverse120
@UnseenUniverse120 9 ай бұрын
Great video, I checked the website of the the companies you mentioned on this video, unfortunately there is no a purchase option. Can you provide a link or instruction on how to order a product from these companies?
@stalfosguardian5573
@stalfosguardian5573 8 ай бұрын
I heard the oils don't give people headaches. I have to stop using alcohol cologne because I get headaches everytime I use them.
@TampaLovesCreating
@TampaLovesCreating 6 ай бұрын
Fragrance oils and perfume materials aren’t even comparable, but both are needed for their intended purposes. Fragrance oils are a must in the crafting market (candles, soaps, room sprays, lotions, etc). Perfume bases and accords are a different level of scent making. There’s a luxury aspect to it. - I deleted my first comment because you answered my question in the last minute of this video.
@Scentonme
@Scentonme 4 ай бұрын
I think all the beginners have the same mindset as you said .❤️
@Ed-qn9kz
@Ed-qn9kz 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip! I ordered some fragrance oils from a very cheap store and they smell terrible lol. I wonder what you think of pure essential oils and absolutes? I like the idea of mixing natural scents with “different” synthetic ones. Any thoughts on that? Have you used essential oils or absolutes yourself and what are your thoughts? I’ve read they don’t last as long as synthetic ones but maybe using a less diluted mix could work? Cheers!
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
Essential oils and absolutes are an essential part of the perfumers palette and I use them in combination with synthetics, which is what I recommend. You have to be careful though since the quality between manufacturers varies wildly.
@mroie
@mroie 9 ай бұрын
what you make you think that you cant used fragrance oil to make a high class scent it dpend if you know to used them with out that sticky feeling my that i have made some tha last 25 years
@ashekahmed695
@ashekahmed695 3 жыл бұрын
Can you make video of diluting few key aroma chemicals like ambroxan, celone, also some different resins and absolutes please.
@sammacer
@sammacer 3 жыл бұрын
Sure, I'll get round to it at some point
@Raafxt
@Raafxt 3 жыл бұрын
Yes please do that! There is no video I can find!
@creepii_peachii
@creepii_peachii 9 ай бұрын
You mentioned a lot of companies but I’m confused on hire to actually order their products. Most of them only offer a catalog but I where would I go to actually order or buy these products?
@elizabethwest5949
@elizabethwest5949 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I liked your video very much. I’m very new to perfumery. I tried to make a perfume with vanilla extract, water and vanilla beans today. Didn’t turn out super great. I would love to make myself a nice smelling vanilla perfume. If you have ever done this feel free to leave some tips haha thanks 😊 Also, is this new hobby I’m getting myself into dangerous? I know I might sound a bit silly, but, I’m probably not going to like asphyxiate myself messing around with these things right? I just have no idea, and I couldn’t find out through google.
@sammacer
@sammacer 3 жыл бұрын
Hey. Sounds like a great idea but maybe you are overcomplicating things using vanilla beans and water. I would just try perfumer's alcohol and vanilla CO2 extract alone. In terms of dangerous, as much as any other practical hobby maybe: In general it's fine but at the end of the day you should read up about how to stay safe and certainly not get pure raw materials in your eyes etc. Keep your workspace well ventilated. You should read the safety documents supplied with your raw materials as each on will be different. Safety in perfumery is it's whole own topic...
@elizabethwest5949
@elizabethwest5949 3 жыл бұрын
@@sammacer ok thanks so much!!
@micheller2906
@micheller2906 2 жыл бұрын
I just got into perfumery and created a few perfumes with fragrance oils and perfume base etc. and let them marinate for a two month period. So far they all smell lovely and last on skin the entire day and sillage is surprisingly amazing. I smell it on my clothes for days also. I’ve got to look into these new products and methods and give it a tru
@queenvenugopal6374
@queenvenugopal6374 2 жыл бұрын
I am preparing detergent powder and liquid detergent, for that what shall I use for good fragrance, from India
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but I don't have expertise with liquid detergent
@boomsticken701
@boomsticken701 2 жыл бұрын
good vid man... learned a lot... saved me money, I'm new to perfumery
@jbernard86
@jbernard86 Жыл бұрын
Excellent channel man! Greatly appreciate the straight up facts
@sammacer
@sammacer Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t have it any other way
@liliankihu3591
@liliankihu3591 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, very detailed and informative video. Quick question, can I use these bases in body mists, body oils and or butters? I ask,since I want to start making product lines with the same scents,quality but affordable. FYI you have a new subbie.
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes you can!
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes you can!
@hemantpatil733
@hemantpatil733 13 күн бұрын
❤❤ hi.....you mentioned perfume companies........ what about LUZI fine fragrances???
@Chickypoota
@Chickypoota 14 күн бұрын
Pell wall costs 60$ to ship WTF a 10 mg bottle
@daciasdiy1861
@daciasdiy1861 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not trying to make perfumes I’m making scented shea butter but i need to know what’s in those oils that’s are $42 for one bottle they dint even come with ingredients , just a plastic bottle with the name and it’s colored . I was thinking if i find out what they use to scent then i cud make them Myself . But nobody wants to tell me that !
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not in the companies interest to disclose the ingredients since it would hurt their sales
@newworldstream1259
@newworldstream1259 2 жыл бұрын
So if in shop I have those categories -natural essential oils -oil compositions -Absolutes -Attar -Molecules -Aldehydes -fragrance compunds which categories to choose from?
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
Everything but not oil compositions, attar and fragrance compounds
@kirstiefreimuth6864
@kirstiefreimuth6864 2 жыл бұрын
your videos are so helpful, thank you! i’m just getting started and i’m interested in creating oil based perfumes… is that a thing?? huge newbie…i’d like to use a carrier oil rather than perfumers alcohol due to the shipping prohibitions here in the US. if i understand correctly, these aren’t to be used in this fashion? along with the essential oils, what should i use instead of fragrance oils? thanks so much for your help!
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
You can make oil based perfume: it’s done frequently in many Middle Eastern countries. You would use a mixture of natural and synthetic raw materials like any other perfume. I wouldn’t recommend cheap fragrance oils if you want to make high quality fine fragrance.
@laurenbray8314
@laurenbray8314 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen people "making perfume" to sell with all fragrance oils. It just boggles my mind why one would do that except for laziness and greed. Then its just insulting to those of us who are passionate about it and really take the time to learn the craft. If you're making soap or candles that's one thing but to pour fragrance oil into bottles and sell it is not it!
@sammacer
@sammacer 3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree!
@OMARLAB20
@OMARLAB20 18 күн бұрын
How about high grade fragrance oil from firmenich and IFF
@DistrictScootersFly
@DistrictScootersFly Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the tips! But where is a good place for me to buy perfume oils if I live in Sweden?
@sammacer
@sammacer Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure but check out the suppliers in my perfumery course video
@derrianterrell
@derrianterrell 8 ай бұрын
So we’re supposed to use chemicals that smell natural?
@Synergy16
@Synergy16 26 күн бұрын
Are fragrances oils and essential oils the same thing? I will be using more natural smells than not so I’m unsure as to what the best forms are for usage.
@razakrazak6213
@razakrazak6213 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Sam I have a quick question that’s a bit unrelated to the video. Most DIY perfumers are probably starting off by buying 15-30 ml bottles. If one was hoping to fill multiple 30ml perfume bottles, do you think it’d be possible using 15-30 ml fragrance materials? I know that there’d probably be specifics like amount used and whatever else, but if we were to assume that we’d be using approx. 1gram per 30ml bottle, do you think It’d be possible or would you rather recommend by larger size materials?
@sammacer
@sammacer 3 жыл бұрын
I normally buy materials as a 10ml or 5ml sample. If you're just doing trial blends and only making a couple of perfumes, then that amount should be fine. I only buy larger amounts if I'm scaling up for a full production batch.
@wib6044
@wib6044 2 жыл бұрын
For anyone else reading this now… Yea you really don’t need much, but it depends on what your doing. If your blends are 15+ individual ingredients smaller is plenty. If you are just doing single aroma sprays like lavender or orange, buy the bigger bottles. There also is the concentration. For a 10% spray you will need about 2 grams of juice. A thirty mil bottle will hold 24 ish grams of liquid total (depending on how big atomizer insert is) and How thick your juice is. Figuring out the concentration is a little tricky. What I do is fill the bottle up with alcohol first while on the scale. Put atomizer in to make sure it is not going to overflow (remove atomizer) Then subtract % of concentrate from total weight, and remove that amount of alcohol. Then fill in that amount of juice. The juice may take up same amount of volume, but weighs more so it takes a little bit of finagling to make sure your bottles are filled to the top and at the correct %.
@alexisdetexas6017
@alexisdetexas6017 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Sam, small question form the big state of Texas. I watched this video just before buying a set of fragrance oils form Amazon. Took them all out of my cart. I looked into the sites and started kits you mentioned. It all seems like it’s chemicals (fragrances) diluted in alcohol. I’m trying to make solid cologne and believe the heat from the balm mixture would just evaporate or mess with the chemistry of the fragrance. So my question to you is, are all fragrance oils created equal? I found some quality fragrance oils on Perfumers Apprentice and wanted to know if those would be more (or just as) appropriate for the purpose of making a solid cologne rather than traditional kits and fragrances?
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
Given that this is something I noticed, it's not a hard and fast rule. Given that Perfumer's Apprentice are a reputable perfumery supplier, I would imagine that they are fine to use. I can't vouch for it though.
@hamothemagnif8529
@hamothemagnif8529 3 ай бұрын
Are the “fragrance oils” you refer to what we call “essential oils”?
@Synergy16
@Synergy16 26 күн бұрын
What is the difference between naturals and bases?
@melaniewolf7244
@melaniewolf7244 6 ай бұрын
Hello, I appreciated this video, which veered me away from purchasing fragrance oils as I start my journey. Do you have any recommendations or general insight into the ethics and sustainability practices of the major fragrance companies listed? I examined Payan Bertrand's catalogue of raw materials, which totaled 167 scents. Only 11 of those were ethically sourced. While I appreciate their transparency, it makes me wonder how widespread unethical sourcing practices are in the perfume industry? Insight or a video on this would be greatly appreciated.
@sammacer
@sammacer 6 ай бұрын
I don’t have any insights on that unfortunately, however you could always try contacting the individual companies since I’d imagine every company is different
@melaniewolf7244
@melaniewolf7244 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for your response !@@sammacer
@ayda6461
@ayda6461 2 жыл бұрын
Love your British accent 🥰💕 greetings from Iran
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks
@philcasson3262
@philcasson3262 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video Sam. I'm just starting out in this exciting hobby after collecting perfume for the last 2 years. Was looking to by my first lot of ingredients from plush folly here in the uk. Do you know anything about them? I know you recommend pell wall but the prices there are a lot higher. In the US they seem to be able to get stuff much cheaper at perfumers apprentice
@sammacer
@sammacer 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Phil. Glad you're starting out, I hope you enjoy it as much as I do! To be honest, I have never used plush folly so I can't say anything about it. It does look a little on the cheap side, though I guess partly because they don't seem to include VAT in their prices. Pell Wall are a little expensive but are known for quality. I don't see why not try plush folly though! Also, another option is that I just recently decided to start trailing my own ingredients kit aimed at not being too expensive. I talk about it at the end of my latest video, you can find it here if you're interested: lux-terra.co.uk/collections/perfumery-supplies/products/perfumery-ingredient-kit-build-your-own
@philcasson3262
@philcasson3262 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the quick reply Sam. Will check your site out. You know how it is when you have no materials at all. You want the most for your money. Keep up the great content
@philcasson3262
@philcasson3262 3 жыл бұрын
Just another quick question Sam. Seen you've tried a few mystic moments oils. Are they ok for a beginner? Looking at getting vetiver and labdanum. I appreciate your advice cheers
@sammacer
@sammacer 3 жыл бұрын
@@philcasson3262 The thing is with Mystic Moments is the longer I try to use them, the more I just don't see it as viable anymore. Lots of the oils aren't of perfumery quality (order the same essential oil from mystic moments and Pell Wall and you will see - I would actually suggest trying this). Even some of the ones that I previously thought were good have developed off odours over time. I would honestly recommend buying fewer high quality oils from a perfumery supplier like Pell Wall and diluting them so they last longer.
@sammacer
@sammacer 3 жыл бұрын
@@philcasson3262 No worries Phil. Yeah I completely understand - when I started out I was a teenager and had almost no money to spend on perfumery - I was trying to mix things in shot glasses to avoid buying bottles (which it turns out ends up being more expensive and worse as you can wash bottles and re-use them and the plastic in the shot glasses can dissolve into the perfume, and everything evaporates). I'm trying to keep the prices as low as possible on my store because of that. If you see anything on my store that seems priced badly please do let me know so I can look further into where I'm sourcing from :)
@FiyahRiiah
@FiyahRiiah Ай бұрын
What if i want to make my own fragrance oil? Would i just use the raw materials and sub the alcohol with almond oil?
@Aliza.12
@Aliza.12 Жыл бұрын
Hi Sam, I love your videos. I just wanted to know how can I order the bases from these mentioned companies, like I tried but they don’t have any bases listed on their websites. What should I do ?
@sammacer
@sammacer Жыл бұрын
They don’t sell directly to consumers unfortunately. Websites like Pell Wall and Perfumer’s Apprentice resell them to everyday people
@anastasiia8635
@anastasiia8635 Жыл бұрын
Hey Sam! you mentioned some of the companies you can buy some ingredients, but most of them do not have a price, and some can sell 100 ml, that it is a little too much for the beginner. Do you know where I can find samples of 10 ml? Thanks
@NugrohoAdi_S.
@NugrohoAdi_S. 11 ай бұрын
perfumersworld
@BostonsOwnn
@BostonsOwnn 2 ай бұрын
Eden Botanicals
@yura2424
@yura2424 3 жыл бұрын
Don't throw the oils away - better give them to someone. Maybe someone will make a candle or soap with them.
@sammacer
@sammacer 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, I'm keeping them closed up in the box just in case I need them for future reference.
@dushyantbhatt9345
@dushyantbhatt9345 10 ай бұрын
where to buy these good quality in usa ?
@nicholaschee4414
@nicholaschee4414 8 ай бұрын
Love your content! Learned a tonne from it. But I still find it difficult to differentiate which supplier to purchase the raw materials from. Would you have any recommendations for those who shipped into Malaysia?
@adnandjokic1105
@adnandjokic1105 Жыл бұрын
I get it, you covered the base notes. What about mid and top notes? Where do you get those from?
@sammacer
@sammacer Жыл бұрын
Actually this video isn’t about basenotes - bases are something entirely different
@fromunderthekilt6310
@fromunderthekilt6310 5 ай бұрын
How do you feel about making your own? As in distilling etc???
@mrnobody2795
@mrnobody2795 3 ай бұрын
Just attend Korean parfum workshop that teach me to make parfume using a fragrance oil 😢
@sammacer
@sammacer 3 ай бұрын
Most workshops out there are aimed at consumers not serious perfumers
@josephandrianantilegando6124
@josephandrianantilegando6124 4 ай бұрын
Newbie here, would like to ask are ESSENTIAL OIL are much better than FRAGRANCE OIL in perfumery?
@JustKrista50
@JustKrista50 2 ай бұрын
Not Sam, obviously. However, many perfumers say EOs dissipate too quick. You won't get a long lasting scent. Also, many EOs can be very problematic for skin, respiratory and or animals. People think "natural" means better/safer, that's just not true. Make sure you look at the EOs you're using and follow the usage rates. From personal experience, EOs do fade quickly. I actually prefer them in soaps for that reason. Not for lotions or perfumes though. FOs actually last much longer and there are great companies out there. If you buy cheap, you get cheap. But, you can buy small amounts if money is a concern. I've also tried infusing my perfume base with natural ingredients. Lavender and hibiscus do well. So do citrus scents. They aren't as strong as an oil, but have longer last and are more natural. FYI: every other perfume expert I've taken lessons from warns against EOs in perfume. As a oil base roller type, it's fine. You'll be diluting the EO in a carrier oil, making it safer, but still need to adhere to the usage rates.
@mochacola72
@mochacola72 Жыл бұрын
This video was very useful. The good thing is I make candles also.
@sammacer
@sammacer Жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@velocitaker
@velocitaker Жыл бұрын
Hi there bro! Is there any platform where i can discus perfumery with you? I would like to learn more
@sammacer
@sammacer Жыл бұрын
You can join my discord server, link is in the description of my newer videos
@user-iu5pe7xz2j
@user-iu5pe7xz2j 3 жыл бұрын
I won't fully agree here, because you can find better quality fragrance oils for making perfumes with listed aroma chemicals, but of course most of the cheap ones are not good.
@sammacer
@sammacer 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure that there are some brands listing products as 'Fragrance Oils' which are actually worthwhile, but my observation is that the vast majority of brands calling things 'Fragrance Oils' are like I describe.
@farazahmad4819
@farazahmad4819 3 жыл бұрын
Hey #tlenn Please mention good fragrance oil providing company
@jrccandleco7939
@jrccandleco7939 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Sam, As per usual, you never disappoint!! You have such amazing knowledge of perfumery.. I wish I could spend the day with and just make perfumes! lol However, I live in the US and cant find a decent, Grade A online site that carries fragrance oil. Can you recommend one or some?
@sammacer
@sammacer 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks! Yeah as I say, I would recommend you get some bases instead of fragrance oils. For example here on perfumer's apprentice you can look for things made by the manufacturers I mentioned in the video: shop.perfumersapprentice.com/c-50-bases-and-blends.aspx
@averagechannel3759
@averagechannel3759 10 ай бұрын
@@sammacer I bought a lot of fragrance oils from that sight some prenuim is that still fine for making a fragrance
@Themindmine
@Themindmine 11 ай бұрын
I’m trying to make a perfume oil, not a perfume.. can I use fragrance oils or no
@georgianasalter
@georgianasalter 6 ай бұрын
Can I use perfume concentrate as a f.o. in candles?
@sammacer
@sammacer 6 ай бұрын
Yes you can, it’s akin to making your own “FO”, not all raw materials will be compatible with candles though and I’m not an expert in that topic
@iza4150
@iza4150 8 ай бұрын
Totally agree but I have a big dilemma cause i have all the high quality stuff but i have ONE vedy cheap fragrance oil that i absolutley ADORE, it s a biscuit and i have no ideea how to make that exact smell, neber found anything like it, it blends beautifully with my bases and other stuff but i have no ideea what procentage to use it safely cause i have no ideea what s in it and at what procentages, it s strong so i assume if i use it in low quantities it should be safe skinwise? I guess this is another reason why FOs are bad but damn this one is my guilty pleasure and yet i have no ideea how to work with it or if you could even get something that has a fragrance oil that just lists "perfume" in it even aproved to be sold. Very foggy on this one. How did you used them in the begining?
@sammacer
@sammacer 7 ай бұрын
You could try contacting the supplier and asking them for an IFRA certificate
@thefragrancedon
@thefragrancedon Жыл бұрын
Where to get good bases? But isn't oils good to get. To get yr nose accustom to diffrent oil types?
@moal5522
@moal5522 10 ай бұрын
This might be a beginner question, but for example, is 10mg of a material diluted to 10%, the same as 1mg of the same material undiluted at 100%? Or does different dilutions give materials different effects when adding to a blend, even if the quantity is adjusted to match the concentration percentage? Because when replicating formulas, I would sometimes adjust all the material quantities based on 10% dilutions, since I usually have my materials diluted at 10% Thanks in advance!
@lassig6573
@lassig6573 Ай бұрын
You got your anwser?
@casualtake1497
@casualtake1497 Жыл бұрын
i wish in my country there are more seller for perfume base
@michaelcobb1559
@michaelcobb1559 3 жыл бұрын
I also think where it comes from is important, I'm a novice perfumer as well, and I've gotten a couple F.O's from the Perfumers Apprentice which is a professional perfume supply company. But yes it is better to learn to make your own accords as much as possible.
@sammacer
@sammacer 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes. In that case of Perfumers apprentice they're most likely trustworthy. It's difficult to make the distinction of terminology (not just as a buyer, but also me when making the video) sometimes as some good suppliers occasionally use the term 'Fragrance Oil' and some bad ones still call them something else instead.
@justcat6042
@justcat6042 Жыл бұрын
there is this one brand in my country that does not list the type of product (whether it's essential oil, fragrance oil, etc). BUT, they only write on the label "(The company's name), manufacturer of Essential Oil". very misleading they sell Sandalwood oil about 4 bucks per 100 grams. LOL
@sammacer
@sammacer Жыл бұрын
Haha well that’s definitely not legit 😂
@Con3maS
@Con3maS 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your videos! I LOVE them. Please don't forget put the subtitles on because my English is not enough. Congratulations from Spain 🖐️
@sammacer
@sammacer 3 жыл бұрын
Hola! Thanks for bringing this up. I don't have the time unfortunately to do the subtitles manually, but I'll look to see if there are any options to correct the autogenerated ones.
@HonestLady
@HonestLady 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is if you r starting you don’t have much cash and people expect you to sell reasonable price 😏 Btw do you sell any course or know anyone? Thanks
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
If you're simply interested in making a profit, I wouldn't recommend perfumery! I don't currently sell any courses, sorry.
@Steven-wk4fq
@Steven-wk4fq Жыл бұрын
Also Pell Wall can't shio to Serbia, do you have a suggestion for a company that can send ingredients to Balkan counties?
@sammacer
@sammacer Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure myself but check out all of the suppliers I recommended in my most recent video
@rohitgangal393
@rohitgangal393 10 ай бұрын
hi i am form india i want start to make my own perfume but i am confuse to purchase perfume for diulation or make my own perfume please guide me ,
@potionbaba
@potionbaba Жыл бұрын
Can I use in all the perfume galaxolide and dpg as well together if yes will it disturb my perfume notes
@robertmorris4201
@robertmorris4201 Жыл бұрын
I’m new to creating my own fragrance, I also live in America. Where should I go to find these fragrance bases?
@yashij
@yashij 2 жыл бұрын
Can we use aroma oils in making perfume oils in combination with EO?
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
Yes of course
@zalzalahbuttsaab
@zalzalahbuttsaab 2 жыл бұрын
The voice of reason!
@siddharthkumar1859
@siddharthkumar1859 8 ай бұрын
Is Luzi a good perfume fragrance oil company ?
@bingbangbongmukbang3015
@bingbangbongmukbang3015 2 жыл бұрын
Very good video my friend.
@osheankerturah5642
@osheankerturah5642 3 жыл бұрын
Fragrance oil have a longer shelf life and if you look for the afi u on point,plus there a lot of EO Companies that sell crap and synthetic oil,I saw a chemist make perfume with versace eros fragrance oil
@sammacer
@sammacer 3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by afi? And yes it does seem to happen with essential oils as well, maybe I should have mentioned in this video but could also be a future one.
@Icerblitz05
@Icerblitz05 3 жыл бұрын
Is this chemist from Philippines?
@pragyasingh6206
@pragyasingh6206 2 жыл бұрын
hi. can I just use fragrance oil as it is . on the body ? I don't have to anything for making it into a perfume or bla bla , I just wanted to use oil on body for smelling good .. so can I use fragrance oil ? i am just confused ..
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
Well, my videos are about perfume making specifically. If you want to use the fragrance oils on your skin you should check their IFRA certificate to check if they’re safe for that
@EsoxLVCIVS6776
@EsoxLVCIVS6776 Жыл бұрын
@sammacer - I am experimenting with making perfume oils and the latest one is separating. I have used the best essential oils that I can afford and also added oud oil and black musk. I have tried warming the oil in a bowl of warm water and I've tried shaking it but after a few hours I get a layer of dark oil on the bottom and light (colour) oil on the top. The carrier oil I have used is grapeseed oil. Is there an emulsifier that I can use or do I throw it away and start again?
@Mohamedali-es5kf
@Mohamedali-es5kf Жыл бұрын
Hello, did you get an answer? I also have the same question.
@EsoxLVCIVS6776
@EsoxLVCIVS6776 Жыл бұрын
@@Mohamedali-es5kf hello my friend, I just kept going with the warm baths and shaking every 12 hours or so and eventually it mixed.
@nandvanlooveren816
@nandvanlooveren816 Жыл бұрын
Hi, very great video! i am just starting out in parfume making. I live in belgium, do you know a A grade quality site In belgium for natural oils?
@HenriqueSilva-ow6qy
@HenriqueSilva-ow6qy 3 күн бұрын
Top. Congratulations from brasil.
@daciasdiy1861
@daciasdiy1861 2 жыл бұрын
So what are they using to get that actual scent ? I assumed it was the actual perfume mixed with with quality oils but it baffles me how it’s colored
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
They will use a mixture of fragrant raw materials and colourants amongst other ingredients
@technoplast7
@technoplast7 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. I am Jibran from Pakistan. I am beginner and what to make perfume like “Clive Christian No.1”, Portrait of the Lady etc. Please help how to make it. We have few Chemicals i.e Galaxolide, Hedione, ISO E Super, Musk Ambrette and Essential Oils
@SeedKreations
@SeedKreations 2 жыл бұрын
u have a great basic ones. u need more.
@daniellabuda7744
@daniellabuda7744 Жыл бұрын
Can you share the music you have added on the end of this video, Sam?
@KeepItBrief89
@KeepItBrief89 7 ай бұрын
This what i was looking for
@Steven-wk4fq
@Steven-wk4fq Жыл бұрын
Givaudan doesn't have a buy option on their site
@sammacer
@sammacer Жыл бұрын
No, they’re a manufacturer so they only do wholesale
@stephenwarren6539
@stephenwarren6539 Жыл бұрын
@11:55 you mention where you buy from but i couldnt make out what you said please?
@sammacer
@sammacer Жыл бұрын
Pell Wall
@p.r.6220
@p.r.6220 4 ай бұрын
Where can I find some bases in USA? Google search only pulls up fragrance oils
@notverysadpotato
@notverysadpotato 4 ай бұрын
Bought mine from vetiver aromatics
@lisalisa2375
@lisalisa2375 3 ай бұрын
Perfumers Apprentice
@dikshakhanna8756
@dikshakhanna8756 2 жыл бұрын
Hey. Could you please help. How can I found the perfume oils of different countries in India as few websites do not provide the delivery in India.
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
Try perfumersworld
@seegraham948
@seegraham948 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Sam good video. I have a question. I'm about to start making perfume too but I can't figure out how to put hase from these companies. From everything Ive seen on their sites, all I am seeing is everything about the company and products but don't see any way to purchase.
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
They don’t sell to end users - you have to buy through a reseller such as Pell Wall
@seegraham948
@seegraham948 2 жыл бұрын
@@sammacer oh ok. Big thanks Sam. Much appreciated.
@mi-vy8xm
@mi-vy8xm 2 жыл бұрын
do you think its a good idea to focus on base notes only without top and middle?ill make sandalwood and vanilla 30% then 70% mineral oil?im your new fan now!
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
No - if you do that, your perfumes will not project well
@mi-vy8xm
@mi-vy8xm 2 жыл бұрын
@@sammacer sir i have a question,can i make an oil based perfume that has projection,sillage ang longevity?is it possible for oil based or much better use alcohol based?
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
@@mi-vy8xm It will be better to make alcohol based since oil based can prevent projection and silage.
@mi-vy8xm
@mi-vy8xm 2 жыл бұрын
@@sammacer i agree with you,even expensive perfumes dont use oil based perfumes because the sillage and projection will suffer,but whats the perfect type of alcohol should we use,and im confused with that fixatives,what it really does?
@sammacer
@sammacer 2 жыл бұрын
@@mi-vy8xm Google is your friend. 'Perfumer's alcohol' should be fine.
@stoykorusev5533
@stoykorusev5533 11 ай бұрын
Can you please share if acords work with carrier oils I am just starting and find the carrier oil type a better carrier ( on 50% medical alcohol 35 dist water so.e glycerin and es oil mix I got some skin irritation, by second attempt at 40% spirt 40% water is better)but I want to know if it can mix carrier oil and Vitamin E with that iso... ambroxan , vannilin and so on acords?
@sammacer
@sammacer 11 ай бұрын
I don’t understand
@stoykorusev5533
@stoykorusev5533 11 ай бұрын
@@sammacer Thank you for your responce :) can the accords work with carrier oil instead of ethanol dalution , for example valilin ect.
@gentleauroraasmr8562
@gentleauroraasmr8562 2 ай бұрын
I wished I've seen this before i bought fragrance oil. Some of them smelled good, but some of them stink so artificially that I almost got a huge headache!
@maizymeredith9851
@maizymeredith9851 Жыл бұрын
Do perfumers apprentice fragrance oils apply to this? I thought you had recommended them as a supplier previously
@sammacer
@sammacer Жыл бұрын
They are a great supplier in general but I do not recommend their fragrance oils
@moal5522
@moal5522 10 ай бұрын
Are there other suppliers other than Pell wall in the uk?
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